Ep. 113: Unleash Your Inner Adventurer with Sachin Latti: Run, Inspire, Conquer!

Sachin, an accomplished athlete and adventurer, shares his incredible journey of running 22 marathons in 22 days and his ambitious goal of running across Canada.

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This is going to be a fun episode.

I'm joined again from Silvercore podcast,
episode number 86, Satchin Lahti, Satchin.

Thank you for coming on back.

Really enjoyed our last conversation.

Great to

Sachin Latti: see you again.

Yeah, man.

Thanks for having me back.

And it's always a pleasure to
come see you and talk to you.

And especially in this
amazing studio, legit, man,

Travis Bader: I'm going to do things
a little differently this time.

Um, I'm going to start off
with a couple of asks and these

are asks for the audience.

There's people watching on YouTube
to the people listening in Apple

podcast, Spotify, wherever ask
number one, such in lottie.

com, uh, such in motion.

com.

There we go.

There you go.

You need to get such a lottie.

Sachin Latti: com to you.

I probably should.

We'll, we'll look at that soon.

Travis Bader: Uh, such in motion.

com.

I'm going to have a link to that in
the, in the bio here, check it out.

Support him on his endeavor.

Last time we were talking about
2025, the goal to run across Canada

and possibly working towards beating
the world record on that one.

Uh, Ask number two would be if people
find value in this podcast, share it,

subscribe, help other people learn about
what's happening here on the podcast.

It's done wonders for such and how he
uses social media, how he has his account

and other people will share information
on their accounts of his journey as he's

working towards the cross Canada tour.

Leaving a comment, leaving a
review on Apple podcasts, uh,

sharing it on social media.

We're one big community and
it just makes it bigger.

I'm just amazed at how many people
are actually listening to this all

over the world, Hong Kong, United
Emirates, Ireland, UK, US, Canada.

It's pretty crazy.

And if all of these people.

Take a moment just to click, subscribe,
share it with others, leave a review.

It means a world of a difference and it
helps us get the message out for people

like such in here and what they're doing.

So those are my asks.

I ask

Sachin Latti: too.

Travis Bader: You know what?

I'm, I'm learning.

I'm learning.

I'm always been shy about that.

I don't want to put that ask out
there, but I think it's important.

And a lot of times people don't realize
what an impact they can make just at.

An individual level, some people
can, they can donate to your

endeavors or what you're doing, but
if they can't donate a simple follow

subscribe, repost man, that amplifies

Sachin Latti: the message.

I agree, man.

I think, um, look, I mean, not
everyone has the means to donate and

some people don't feel like actually
giving money, but they want to take

actions um, yeah, I mean, share,
subscribe, like all these things.

Um, Help us continue
doing what we're doing.

It also inspires us further that
people are actually valuing what we do.

So that's helpful too.

So I think if people are keen
on following things or people

that are trying to do, um.

Do better, then let's support everyone.

You

Travis Bader: know, it's one of
those things that you do it for you

really, at the end of the day, you're
doing it for yourself, but you want

to take a look at those metrics.

Where was I before?

Where is my headspace at?

Where's my performance at?

And where's my finances at?

All these different things.

Where am I now?

And what is my metric for
success that I'm looking at?

Am I moving towards as Earl
Nightingale would say, the progressive

realization of a worthy ideal.

And it means the world when other people
are on board, if they don't have the

means, and I, I'm one of those people
who oftentimes people will hit me up for

money and they'll say, Oh, can you donate?

Can you donate to know if it's a cause
that I really believe in, I'm going

to say, I'd rather donate my time.

I'd rather donate my efforts.

I'd rather be alongside with you
and help you get to where you need.

I understand that money is
important, but even if that's just

sharing something on social media,
that, that, that helps, right.

Or coming beside you.

Like, I wish I was able to be
there and squamish on the day

that you're coming through.

Seb and the crew, everyone was down there.

That looked amazing.

Sachin Latti: Honestly, man, I, I think
I don't, I gotta be not careful, but

I should be mindful of how I say this,
but I kind of agree with you too, um,

you know, obviously donations are,
donations are needed and super important

sponsors are, um, helpful, but I think
for me, what I really value is people

who are like minded who have, who I
respect, um, and who are by my side.

Uh, or I'm by their side,
supporting each other as friends.

I mean, you can't really beat that, man.

You

Travis Bader: got one life to live.

Yeah.

When you're all done with it, you can't,
you can't take the money with you, right?

The money will help you.

It's a means to an end.

You know, they did a study on money and
happiness, and I'm sure they've done many

of them, but here's one that I can recall.

And it talked about, uh, money
being a motivator for an individual.

And they found that if.

Money was provided to somebody who
let's say you're producing a product.

You get one token or 1 for
each product that you produce.

There's a direct correlation
between the amount of money you

can pay a person and their output.

So, Hey, you're getting
better performance.

You get, you make one widget, you
get 1, you do a hundred widgets,

you get a hundred dollars.

Direct correlation.

So that they found money was a motivator.

Anything outside of that, they
found there was a threshold.

And they said, once you've got food,
you've got shelter, you've got clothing,

you're, you've got basic necessities, a
little spending, a little folding money

in your pocket to go out and have some,
have some fun, whatever that might be.

Uh, money.

We'll have an inverse effect
on a person's performance.

The, the more they paid an individual, the
less productive that individual became,

especially if it was in a creative sphere.

Okay, such, and I want you to
create this beautiful piece of art.

I want you to write a story.

I'm going to pay you more and more money.

And the more money that the person paid,
the more pressure came on and the less

of performance actually, uh, thrived and.

What a person really needs is that
internal desire or burn inside them to,

to create, or to move towards something
that's going to be desirable for them and

see money as a natural by product of that.

You have that burn, you have that desire.

Uh, you just came back
from running 22 marathons.

In 22 days.

Yeah, I did.

Holy crow.

I mean, people, people brag about
how I did a marathon last year.

Right.

And that's a big achievement
for a lot of people.

For sure.

22 and 22 days.

Yeah.

Sachin Latti: So, yeah, man, for sure.

Um, a lot of people set goals for
themselves and I'm no different.

I, I set goals for myself and, um, it's
interesting, I remember saying on the

last podcast, I was, I had some goals
and I mentioned some of those goals and

one of them was to run a marathon a day.

Not for 22 days, but to create myself to
a person that could run a marathon a day.

And I made that commitment or I set
that goal about two years ago after

hearing Cameron Haynes on a podcast.

And after I heard him on a podcast talking
about how he runs a marathon a day.

And, you know, explaining
his training and whatnot.

I was like, holy man, I want to do that.

And it sparked some curiosity in me, man.

I didn't even know that was possible.

So for me, I didn't know
that was humanly possible.

I just, you know, shelter didn't really
experience these types of things.

Didn't know it existed, whatever.

And as soon as I realized it was a thing,
I was like, okay, um, how do you do that?

And I want to figure that out.

So I set on a course and a, and
a trajectory to figure that out.

And, um, August 26th of this year, I
finished running 22 marathons in a row.

And I was, for me, it was
to raise money and awareness

for the honour house society.

It was a charity sort of fundraiser,
but also it was something for me.

It was something for me
to realize that I could.

You know, if I set my mind to something,
and if I, um, put in some effort, and,

um, was consistent in all the things
associated to it, I could achieve

something, uh, I thought was impossible.

And for me, I did.

Travis Bader: So on the onset 22
and 22 days, did it enter your mind

that you might not complete it?

Did it enter your mind that, uh, you might
want to give up, you might get injured?

Uh, did you have contingency
plans ahead of time?

Sachin Latti: So I, I
suspected I'd get injured.

I suspected I would, you know,
something may happen, there would

be obstacles or whatever they were.

I suspected these things would happen.

I didn't think anything would stop me.

I thought things may slow me down.

Um, but nothing was going to stop me.

And it would have had to have
been something absolutely

catastrophic for me to stop.

And I already framed those things in
my mind in advance of kicking off.

Travis Bader: I really like that.

It's not going to stop me.

It might slow me down,
but I'm getting there.

Nonetheless, you've taken
quitting out of the equation.

You've taken failure out of the equation.

Because there's always a way, I
mean, Terry Fox did it with one leg,

Sachin Latti: right?

And it's been done.

Sure.

I know it's been done a million times.

I know tons of people that have
done similar types of things.

And, um, so I know it's possible
now I'm in that space of

trying to find savages, right?

So there are lots of them
if you start looking.

And as soon as I started looking,
I started finding these types of

people and I was like, man, I need
to become one of these people.

So I need to place myself in the center
of that environment and figure it out.

And that's kind of what I've been doing.

And, um, no, so failure wasn't an option.

I was going to finish and, uh,
maybe get slowed down, but that

was the only thing that was going
to really affect the 22 days.

Travis Bader: Who do you look up to?

Sachin Latti: In which capacity?

Well,

Travis Bader: uh, I guess in preparing
for the 22 and 22, wanting to surround

yourself with savages, there's going to
be a physical aspect of that, there's

going to be a mental aspect to that.

I I guess in any capacity,
I'll leave it open ended.

Sure,

Sachin Latti: sure.

For me, from a physical capacity,
I'm not sure if I looked up to people

because I think physically I have the
capabilities to do just about anything.

Do I, do I have the
mindset to do anything?

That's a different question.

So for me, it was, I wanted to surround
myself by people who had mindset, who

had a mind that I was, um, Chasing,
not a, not a physique, not a, not a

physical capability I was chasing.

So for me, you know, people like Sean
Taylor, um, people like Seb Lavoie, you

know, just people that are immediately
around me, but then also from a, from

a social media perspective, you know,
various different podcasts, you know,

like your campaigns and various other
types of people that have accomplished.

Really bigger things
than even Cameron Haynes.

Like, you know, the, I can't remember the
fellow's name, but he ran 78 marathons

in a row just last summer in England.

Oh yeah.

So he did that and I was like, okay, cool.

Let me see this guy.

So I should start tracking him,
see what he's doing, how he's

doing it, how he's managing it.

And then I thought, well, if he
can do that, I can do this easy.

Cause it was only 22.

So just framing it differently for
me to be, make it more, um, um, you

know, what's, what's that saying?

You know, how do you eat an elephant?

One bite at a time.

There you go.

Travis Bader: Yeah.

So if we break it down into before,
during and after, just cause I'm curious

about this, uh, Michael Easter, he would
wrote a book called, uh, the comfort

crisis and he advocates for people.

Being uncomfortable and that's the
road to happiness and satisfaction.

And he calls things, um, I guess
he uses the Japanese term and I'm

probably going to say it wrong,
but it's, um, Muskogee, Musogee.

Somebody here can, uh, help us out.

Yeah.

Help us out and correct me on that one.

But essentially the, the odds
of you completing 50, 50.

It's gotta be something hard,
something really difficult.

And you.

Endeavor to put yourself on that
and experience those hardships.

And there's only two rules.

I only remember one of the
rules, which is don't die.

But, uh, aside from that, there
is another rule in there, which

somebody can help me out again.

But for me, I would think doing
22 marathons in 22 days would

be a bit of a, I'm a so you.

I'm not a runner.

I'm not built as a runner.

I hurt myself every time I start
running, whether that's knees or

break, um, bones in my feet and
I'm carrying too much weight.

And I, I go too hard, too fast,
perhaps, or maybe being six, six,

250 pounds, I'm not really the
optimal, uh, uh, built for a runner.

There's other things I
can do phenomenally well.

Um, how do you mentally prepare for this?

Sachin Latti: Good question.

So like anything that you.

Like anything that you're going to start,
obviously, you're not going to be good at.

Anything you start, no matter
if it's 22 marathons or 5k, if

you're new to it, you're new to it
and you're not going to be good.

You might have a certain aptitude,
but you're still not going

to be amazing or fantastic.

So to put it in a, in a, an example
that you may understand, if I go

hunting with you tomorrow, I'll suck.

I've never done it, but if I spend
two years, every single day obsessed

by how to get better and what I need
to do, then the progress tends to

get faster and faster and faster.

So for me, the 22 marathons, the
journey started three years ago.

So I've been, now I didn't know I was
going to run 22 marathons three years ago.

But I started a journey of trying to see
what I, what was possible for me and I

continued training, I continued running.

I would, I'm still obsessed by
all of it and not a negative

obsession, just a positive.

I want to learn.

I want to get better.

I want to push the envelope.

So through that process, after let's
say two years in December of last

year is when I started thinking
about, Hey, this 22 marathons thing.

So the conversation really happened
with myself and my coach, Ron.

He's my running coach and he
knows what my ultimate plan is

to run across Canada in 2025.

So, you know, I was initially
thinking about having a training

block, maybe three, 400 kilometers,
maybe a one week kind of thing.

And then he's like, listen, man,
if you want to break a record or

even get close to it, you need
something more of a training block.

So we started brainstorming different
ideas, what, what's that look like?

And we started off with, let's say.

You know, 30 marathons in a row, whatever,
all these different sort of ideas.

And then eventually came to the 22,
because of it's a specific reason for

the number and the numbers related
to veterans in the United States,

the study was conducted, which showed
that 22 veterans a day commit suicide

because of mental health related issues.

So I wanted to highlight that.

So now.

Starting in December of

Travis Bader: last year, and
that's a crazy number, by the way.

That's an insane number.

It's 22 a day.

It's

Sachin Latti: ridiculous.

And look, man, if we, and
that study was done in 2011.

It was done in the United States.

It didn't incorporate Canada and
didn't incorporate first responders.

So if you were to include emergency
personnel, firefighters, police,

all these people, I would suspect
that number's a lot higher.

I'd say so.

Right.

So it's a, it's a number
that's, it's a tragic number

and I wanted to highlight it.

And so, Really since December
until August, I was all in, man.

I was training to do the thing.

And so every single day was focused
and dedicated and on that path.

So I was prepared.

So now before I started,
I believed in myself.

Sure.

I had no clue I could do it
because I had never done it before.

No

Travis Bader: idea.

So that's sort of an ignorance is bliss.

Yeah.

Like

Sachin Latti: I didn't
know what I didn't know.

Right.

Like the most I had ever run in a
row was three marathons in a row.

I've ran that before.

Like three days in a
row, three days in a row.

Okay.

Right.

So I, you know, 42.

2 kilometers.

So if people who don't know how
much a marathon is, it's 42 point.

Two kilometers.

And um, so the most I had done
was last year was three in a row.

And so after I had done that
last year, I was like, man, I

never thought I could do that.

That also precipitated the other thing.

Oh, what else can I do?

Rather than I'm going to.

And typically, generally, from
my experience, when I see people,

I'm going to train for a marathon
in eight months or nine months,

and that's all I'm going to do.

And they reach that goal
and then they're done.

They don't want to see what else they can
do because they've accomplished one thing.

And then, okay, let's keep moving forward.

For me, it's a bit different.

Um, it's a constant effort to
continue to see what I'm capable of.

All the time, at least right now, from
a physical perspective, I'm now starting

to apply that sort of way of thinking
across all levels now and other metrics

of my life, not just the physical.

Travis Bader: Okay.

So I know we're going to break out
of this before, during and after.

But I'm pretty sure I brought this
one up with you before Rockefeller

famously asked, how much is enough?

You've got so much money.

How much is enough?

And he says to the reporter, just 1 more.

All right.

Always 1 more.

So I'm going to ask
you how much is enough?

Sachin Latti: I don't know.

I haven't, I don't know.

I'm just going to keep going until
I keep, I can't, like, I don't,

for me, there's no enough, man.

It's like, um, I haven't reached even
close to what I think I'm capable of

from not just a physical way, but all
of the ways you would measure success.

And I'm not even.

I haven't, I don't think
I've scratched the surface.

So why would I stop now?

Man, I got to keep moving.

Travis Bader: It's funny when you start
pushing beyond that circle of boundaries

where people think their limitations are.

And the second you step
outside that, it's like.

Holy crow, how much further can I go?

I I'd liken it to the first time.

I mean, growing up and up to about 18.

I, I really didn't travel.

And I remember a buddy says, Hey,
we've got a couple of quad bikes.

Let's go down to Oregon.

We're going to race in the sand dunes.

This is going to be fantastic.

So I spent a week in Oregon in the
sand dunes with these quad bikes with

paddle tires on, and it was pretty fun.

Right.

And I was like, this is the furthest
away from home I've ever been.

Let's keep going.

Right.

And then kept driving down
through, through Oregon, through

California, through Nevada, until
I eventually ran out of money.

But, uh, but that feeling of, um, I'm, I'm
further than I have been, and I have no

idea where these limits are, but I have to
wonder, there's another analogy that I'll

use, which is kind of like cliff jumping.

I'll go and I'll go cliff jumping.

And it's one of those things at an
early age, I decided cliff jumping is

probably not the activity for me because
after I jump off the cliff and I feel

comfortable and I do it a few times, I
say, let's go higher and I'll do it again.

Let's go higher.

And I keep doing that.

And at some point, I know that I'm
going to end up injuring myself

or there's going to be an adverse.

Effect to my constant pushing
to go higher and higher.

Sachin Latti: So to that,
that's when you, now you found

the left of arc, so to speak.

Now you don't go further than that now.

Yeah, but you want to.

But you got to first find that, right?

You got to find it first.

You

Travis Bader: got to find it and then
push it because it's in your nature.

Sure.

But you find

Sachin Latti: it.

And so let's say you find that
spot where you get injured.

Okay, cool.

Now you found the spot where
you're getting injured.

Now you find the other spot on the other
end where you can find some more balance.

Then you get to the other side again
and see, okay, let's push that further.

How much further can we go based
upon that sort of way of thinking?

But one thing I wanted to ask you,
um, You know, you, you mentioned you

had traveled in the quadding, right?

Yeah.

And, um, you stopped when
you ran out of money.

Did that change your life or at
least the way you saw things?

Cause now you traveled, you did
something you never thought you could do.

Did that change something for you or light

Travis Bader: something up?

Oh, a hundred percent.

Yeah.

Then I started traveling further
and further and I was getting,

taking on odd jobs and doing
work in order to get more money.

I was sleeping in the
back of the pickup truck.

I mean, really all we were paying for was
gas and bananas because bananas are cheap.

And that was basically all I was eating.

Um, but, um, yeah, a hundred percent
of dead and it can, it's exciting.

And you talk about balance.

It can askew that balance.

And it's important to push the scale
and tip it to see where it is and

then allow it to kind of level back.

But that balance is one of these
things that people keep looking for.

They saying, Oh, you have
to have a work life balance.

You have to have a balance here.

You have to, and.

I don't know, work life balance.

If you're talking about a
work life balance balances,

life is the important one.

There should be no balance there.

Work should be a means to an end so
that you can live a life in a way that's

going to be productive for yourself,
your family, your friends around you.

I don't think there should be any
question of, it should be totally askew.

Work should be, in my opinion, the
means to the end, unless of course

that is your driving factor and
that is your life and that's work.

And fair enough.

I won't begrudge somebody for that.

It's different from my perspective.

Yeah.

And

Sachin Latti: look, I agree, man.

And I might even begrudge some
people about it because maybe they

don't truly understand what their
purpose and why they're here.

Um, why they're actually here, right?

So if you're saying, so when I hear work
life balance, I think, okay, someone's

going into an office or someone's going
doing a job and then their balance is, oh,

I got to make sure that my family's okay.

So I got to make sure
my workplace is okay.

And then I got to make
sure this place is okay.

Cool.

I understand that I've been in
that space for a long, long time.

Um, what I'm starting to maybe explore
and, um, understand perhaps is, um,

like you said, work is just, I think
there's a way to find where the balance

and the work are one in the same.

So I, again, I don't know.

I'm just kind of.

Brainstorming and thinking
about it out loud.

But I think if there's a way to
find where you're doing both at the

same time, well, then the balance
is supremely achieved, isn't it?

And so for example, if, if I'm living
a life of service and through that.

Well, maybe I'm making a little bit of
money to provide for myself and my family.

I think that would probably be the
ideal work life balance because now I'm

doing something that I love to do every
single day, and I'm also then able to

sustain and support myself and my family.

And then who knows, maybe help
other people along that path.

But I think if you're in an
environment where, okay, it's work

over here and balance over here.

I think you're, you might become
somewhat limited on how much service

you could provide or how much support
you could provide or whatever you

want to say to the balance part and
to the community part, if that makes

Travis Bader: sense.

It totally makes sense.

It, it brings to mind a couple of things.

So people say you don't want to turn
your hobby into your work, right?

You don't want, you don't want
to make yourself, uh, sick of

the thing that you love so much
by turning that into your work.

And I can see that perspective if
somebody Really love something.

And then they say, how
can I make money at this?

How can I make this my job?

But the perspective then changes because
they're looking at the job side, as

opposed to what it is that they love.

If they look at that in a different
way and they say, how can.

How can success, whatever that
metric is going to be, be a natural

by product of the hard work that I
put in towards what I love to do.

Uh, then I think, I think a person's
winning because they're not turning

what they love to do into work.

They're doing what they love to do,
and maybe they have to consult others

who have traveled this path before,
have other people like for myself, I'm

not good at valuing things for myself.

I'm not good at putting the ask out.

Yeah.

Other people do it for me.

No problem.

Yeah.

Great, that's a good relationship, right?

Absolutely.

I agree.

Yeah.

And the old analogy, you know, if
you want to summit some mountains

and your goal is to summit those
mountains, sure, you'll do it.

But the person who loves mountaineering
and does it for the love of mountaineering

will out summit and out hike the person
whose end goal is just to summit those

Sachin Latti: mountains.

No, case in point, what I just did.

Exactly what I'm thinking.

I mean, really, because.

This is, um, what I'm trying
to do is to figure out, no,

I'm not even figuring it out.

I know what my purpose is.

I know what I'm doing in
terms of why I'm doing it.

Now, through that process, if
money comes into it or remuneration

comes into it through that.

Leading a factor on cool, that's
fine, but I'm not doing any of

what I'm doing to make money.

Right.

I'm doing it because I have a, I had
some basic skill sets that I wanted

to really maximize and develop for
myself and for the people around me

and by extension, social media and all
the other places that it can happen.

So I'm leading with that
focus and if money comes in.

Bonus, that's kind of how I'm framing it.

And, and, um, it seems to be working.

Look, I'm not making millions of
dollars and I don't care to at this,

you know, if it happens, it happens.

But I'm happy, man.

I'm every single day I get
to do what I love to do.

That's amazing.

And every single day I get to talk
to people that are cool people.

And every single day I get to see what
I'm capable of and what's possible.

And I challenge myself every single,
every single day I'm challenging myself,

either physically or mentally it's, it's
happening because I want to develop myself

three, four years ago, I was, I'm not
even a fraction of the human that I was

like, I'm, I'm so much more different now.

Like even six months ago, I'm
a different human than I was.

Even six months ago, I

Travis Bader: challenged people to
listen to the last podcast you're on.

And when we talked, you're in a different
headspace, totally different energy.

You're way more centered.

Sachin Latti: Yeah.

There's a difference.

I know.

I mean, look, man, I, I know for sure
there's a difference cause I could.

I remember what I was feeling then.

And, uh, there was a lot of angst,
there was a lot of anxiety, there was

a lot of stress and look, I have all of
those things now, but I've come through

the fire to a certain degree where
I'm able to manage those a lot better.

I've pushed myself so many ways over
the last two years, even since we've had

the podcast, I've pushed myself so many
ways, not just physically, but mentally

and both at the same time that I feel
like I can handle so much more too.

So that's made me a better human and more
relaxed and more centered, like you said.

And, um, and just, uh, just
more pleasant to be around that

Travis Bader: honestly.

How have you found your passion
and your drive has had an effect

on your family and your friends?

Sachin Latti: Um.

I, I think positively, I think so.

Cause I mean, for one, like I was
in a bad spot a few years ago.

So, so friends and family are, you
know, probably a little concerned

with my mental state at that time.

So for them to see where I'm
at now, I'm like, I don't know,

I haven't really asked them.

Um, but I suspect that they're
very pleased with some of the

outcomes that have happened
over the last couple of years.

Um, for me, I'm, I know how
I interact with my daughter.

And that is phenomenally
better than it was before.

Awesome.

And my daughter is so much, well,
my relationship with my daughter is

so much better than it was before.

So, you know, through that,
then, you know, my ex issues

that may have been there before.

May aren't as there as much because
my daughter is flourishing because

of the person that I'm becoming so
she's, you know, my relationship with

my daughter is all I can control in
terms of the other aspects and, and.

So what was causing me a lot of
tension was some of that, you know,

my ex and various other things that
would happen through that process.

And really I had to own a lot of that too.

So it was a lot of ownership on my part
to figure out why am I having difficulties

in these different types of relationships?

And I had to focus on what I wasn't
doing and I wasn't being the best

father I could be at the time.

So for me, I had to understand that.

And now that I can reflect back
on that, and then I can say that

with honesty, yeah, I wasn't doing.

The right things at the time,
you know, it wasn't, um, the best

father I could be at that time.

And now I'm still not the best father, but
I'm doing my best and I'm a lot better.

And I'm going to continue
moving in that direction.

So to answer your question, I
think the people around me who've

witnessed me and who are around me on
a regular basis, they're, I suspect

they're probably pretty pleased.

Travis Bader: Not the
best father right now.

You say, you know, my kids, as
most kids will say, dad, you're

the best dad in the world, right?

I say, well.

I'm trying, I'm working on it.

Might not be the best right now, but
I'm working towards being the best.

A couple of years ago,
you're in a dark place.

Do you find you still
encounter those demons?

Sachin Latti: I think everyone does.

It's how we manage them now and how
do we remain positive and how do

we move, continue moving forward?

That's kind of all my focus
now is we all have problems.

And before I would suspect
that, well, Before I had a bit

more of a victim mentality.

Oh man, this, me, this, that,
I got screwed over or this

happened to me or whatever.

But, um, since I've taken a lot more
control over how I respond to things,

I think, yeah, it's a lot different.

It just absolutely is a lot
different in how I manage it.

How are you managing?

I'm good, man.

Like, uh, like in terms of man, and a
lot of how I manage things now is based

upon hard effort and achieving things
over the last couple of years, because

that's raised some built belief in me.

So one of my fundamental issues a few
years ago was a sense of disillusionment,

sense of worthlessness, sense of feeling
like a loser, all things that I suspect.

A lot of people feel sure.

And so I felt, and so I don't, I
didn't realize this, but I kind of

reflect back now and see what I've
done over the last couple of years.

And that's made me feel good about myself
and, and not in an, in an egotistical

way, just, it's just like, wow, man, I
did something I never thought I could do.

And that makes me feel positive.

So if I encounter something that's super
challenging mentally, I can just reflect

back on the things I've already overcome.

And the things that I've already overcome
or, or even things that I've put in

front of me that were super challenging
and I still overcome those things, that

gives me a level of confidence and, um, a
level of confidence that I can accomplish

and achieve just about anything in a
positive way, given enough time and

Travis Bader: effort.

I'd say that's probably one of
the bigger impacts, just as an

outsider looking in that you've had
on your family and your friends is

in showing them that path forward.

You know, there's a book by Dr.

Seuss.

I could probably recite it word for word.

I've read it so many times to my kids.

But it was called, I had trouble
in getting to Solace a Loo, it was

about a little character who had
never had troubles and, um, all of

a sudden starts having troubles.

And a guy comes up on his
one wheeler wobble and says,

Hey, come on to Solace a Loo.

They have no more, he'll
have no more troubles.

Well, at least for a few, right?

And it goes on this long journey and keeps
encountering trouble after trouble, after

trouble and gets to Solacelew and they
can't get the key to work in the inside.

And the guy says, Oh, I'm off to another
place where they have no troubles at all.

And the main characters stops and
thinks, and his little quote at

the end was, he decides not to go.

He says, I know there are
troubles of more than one kind.

Some come from ahead, some come from
behind, but I've got a big stick.

I'm already, you see, my troubles
are going to have troubles with me.

And essentially.

He's learned through this process.

He's faced adversity and he says, I know
I'm always going to have troubles anyways.

Um, I think that is probably the biggest
thing that you're imparting on those

around you, because you've been very vocal
about sharing your journey, where you

were, how difficult things had gotten.

And where are you are now?

And I find that really interesting
that, that one question, some

people say, no, everything's great.

No more troubles at all.

No, we all have troubles.

I'm still dealing with troubles,
but I've got better tools.

I got that big stick.

Sachin Latti: Well, I think, I
think it's been invaluable for me.

So like we were talking about
Nathan, uh, the host of the

1033 podcast, fantastic guy.

Right.

And, um, I was on his podcast, probably
one of the first ones I had done maybe

two years ago, and you could clearly
hear, um, my mental state in that, in

that podcast, like how negative I was, or
even just how, how hurt or damaged I was.

It was very emotional for me.

And anyway, so having said
that to your point about, um.

You know, people could track where,
how I've been, you know, progressing

by even going on various different
podcasters, social media, things that

I've been doing over the last couple
of years, you could see it, you can

see the, the, um, the growth and the
development mentally and physically.

So I think, you know, now that I'm
reflecting back on it, man, that's pretty.

Pretty, man, I'm pretty proud of
that, to be honest, that I'm able

to, you know, that I have come to
a certain point where I'm able to

still, I'm not without difficulties.

There's tons of them still presented.

And sometimes I make them happen too.

I create them now so that I can go
through the uncomfortable moments,

even despite how difficult they may be.

I know now based on what I've already
accomplished, I think I can tackle

any problem given enough time.

So now I'm creating certain, I don't
want to say creating problems, but maybe

creating an obstacle so that I can develop
and get better through that process.

Travis Bader: You're not
shying away from the challenge.

Nathan's an incredibly empathetic fellow
and he's, uh, I really admire how, how

centered he is and how in tune he is
with his, um, his feelings, his emotions.

And like, he's put a lot of work into it.

And I remember going back on those
podcasts prior to our first podcast that

we did when I was gathering information,
I was looking at all the different sources

of places where you'd been speaking.

And there was that negative aspect
that, uh, that victim mentality.

How do you deal with that?

How are you, because that's,
we're a negatively biased species.

There's always going to
be that aspect to it.

We don't want to just whitewash
over and pretend like we're not.

How do you deal with that?

Sachin Latti: I had to
learn, I had to learn, man.

And, um, so for me, I know how I
am in the sense of how I learn,

basically, I kind of have a rough
idea of how I learned and how I tackle

things and how I understand things.

And for me, as soon as I find people that
I kind of want to be like, I just attach.

And try to learn, because I, I
think with a certain degree, like,

like I've had a lot of experience
in, in, in law enforcement.

So I, I, I'm decent at assessing people in
a short period of time and understanding,

you know, maybe benefits that I, I could
learn from and things of that nature.

So for me, I started, I
didn't know what I was doing.

I had no clue how to kind of
correct certain things, but I

could tell that some people did.

And, um, I just kind of.

Listened and paid
attention to those people.

And, and Sean Taylor and Seb Lovall, I
kind of really focused on those two guys

because I saw, um, attributes that are
respected in both of them, very different

individuals, but I kind of wanted to take
both of them and combine them together

and try to apply them for myself.

And that's essentially what I've
been doing over the last couple

of years to remove both the victim
mentality and the fear of death.

And I've been focused on those two
things so that I can continue moving

forward in a way that I'm not scared.

And so I had a chat with Seb some
time ago and, and he's, he said this

probably on various other podcasts and
whatnot, but he's, one of the things

he mentioned to me is like, man, if you
can remove the victim mentality and the

fear of death, you're already winning.

So when I heard him say that, I, I just
tried to understand what that meant.

And then, um, and it just slowly
just started listening to what they

would say and how I remove that
victim mentality is, is because

everyone's got a screwed up life.

Totally.

Everyone's had

Travis Bader: problems.

That Norman Rockwell idea of a
perfect family and perfect life.

It's doesn't exist.

It doesn't,

Sachin Latti: man.

So as soon as I was, uh, woke up to
the fact that I'm not unique, I'm not

special at all, that there are people
out there who've had it tougher.

And, um, and you know, and I haven't had
it that tough compared to a lot of people.

So it put things in perspective as well.

So as soon as I put things in
perspective and then I started working

and then I started building belief in
myself, then things started really.

Moving in a, in a direction
that was positive, but I

think you have to put in work.

Otherwise things don't happen.

Travis Bader: Momentum
mori, remember we die.

Tell me about this fear of death thing.

Sachin Latti: So for me, I think
I, I, I, I don't think I've

had much of a fear of death.

So I've been good on that part, right.

But I think the fear of death, I think,
look, you don't want to die, but you

should also shouldn't be scared to live.

Right.

And I think I was scared to
live for a period of life where

I didn't want to do things.

I wanted to stay safe.

I wanted to do my job and do this, that,
and the other and be normal and whatever.

But I think as soon as I really tackled
that piece, I was like, well, yeah.

And I think probably, you know,
the pandemic kind of helped fast

forward that for me, because I
didn't want to be locked in my house.

I was like, I'm not, look, if I
die, I die then, man, I don't care.

I don't want to be isolated forever.

I want to go outside and experience
things and meet people and live.

So I think that really solidified for me,
the, Oh man, I'm not scared to die, man.

Let's live.

And so now with that sort of way of
thinking, I can create for myself.

Challenges that are astronomical
that maybe I never would have

thought of before, because
there's so crazy out there for me.

And so, yeah, that's kind of
how I explain that fear of

Travis Bader: death.

I remember as a, uh, a kid
watching Terminator two and seeing

the, uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Of course it's a stunt double and very
clearly a stunt double as he takes a

bike and jumps off the ledge and he's
driving down the T 1000 or whatever it is.

He's got the semi truck behind him.

I was like, imagine
what a person could do.

If they just eliminated the fear
of dying, they'd probably be

like this Terminator guy, right?

A hundred percent.

Driving down, doing their thing.

And I tried to incorporate that into
my own life, possibly in a negative

way in younger years, but that could
lead to, thankfully, uh, not too

many injuries and I'm still alive.

Um, there is that balance.

That people need to be able to find,
because, you know, I've talked to

other people and they say, you know,
it wasn't that I wanted to die.

It was just that I was
apathetic about living.

Right.

And I just, I didn't care.

Um, you're pushing yourself now in a way
that challenges yourself on a daily basis.

What happens if you get injured?

What happens if you don't
have that ability to be able

to push yourself further?

Or is that going to have a very.

Difficult mental effect on you.

I mean, if you, if that piece of the
puzzle, if you're living for these

new challenges and these pushing and
pushing, um, would you be content if

you're forced into a position where you
could no longer push like you are now?

Sachin Latti: That's a good question.

I think, look, there's
always things that happen.

And things can happen to anyone.

I don't think about it, but
I have thought about it.

And the reality is this man, you
know, if, let's say if, uh, there's a

mobility issue for me and I can't run.

Cool.

I'll figure something else out.

I'll do something else.

Like I didn't like running to begin with.

So it started in a, in a
way that, uh, with a, with a

activity that I hated anyway.

So, um, for me, it's more
the fact of trying to find

something to challenge myself.

Like, look, if you, if
you, you got Mark Orman.

He was, uh, uh, um, on social
media, pretty big platform.

I think he's SAS retired.

He's a double, triple amputees.

Yes, I know Mark.

Yeah, of course.

Yes.

Yeah.

So, uh, he does jujitsu and all
kinds of other things and he's

got, he doesn't have, he's missing
his legs and one left one arm.

Travis Bader: And he's riding these
pedal, these, uh, arm pedal bikes.

And so, you

Sachin Latti: know, I mean, I think
there's always a way to push yourself.

And I, I think I'd be that guy.

I mean, I know I'm that guy
who'd find a way to do something.

Um, so I'm not worried about that.

Um, you know, I, I, I believe
there's always a way to

find a way to push oneself.

Like, don't get me wrong, if something
like that were to happen to me, obviously

it would affect me emotionally and I
wouldn't be happy with it, but I would

have a plan in place to make sure
that I can keep getting up and keep

moving forward because of my purpose.

If

Travis Bader: we've.

If we looked at the, before the
run, let's look at the 22 and 22.

Can you talk me through that process?

What were the highs?

What were the lows?

How'd you deal with them?

Sachin Latti: Okay.

It's so, as you can imagine, um, 22
marathons is a, was a big undertaking

for me, both emotionally, physically,
mentally, logistically, all the

things that you can kind of think of.

Cause essentially I planned.

With support of some people, but all of
it was created and planned out on my own.

Right.

And so to begin with, or during the, so we
had challenges right from day one, right.

So in terms of, um, and I was,
the challenges were, were both

physical, mental, um, environmental.

Right.

A lot of things were happening.

So like the first day, uh, in
Revelstoke, it was hot, it was hot, man.

And I hadn't ran in that heat
before, uh, that heat I've ran

in as much heat as can get here.

But once you started going in
those areas, you're looking

at 35, 37, 38 degrees Celsius.

Right.

So for me, it was just difficult
to recreate those environments.

Number one, number two, it was
also very difficult to create.

Um, forest fires and smoke for me to run
through and in Revelstoke, there were,

you know, um, You know, weather network
would put out environmental warnings.

No one should go outside for any activity.

And I'm out there running
a marathon, right.

So things like that.

So there were little things like that.

And then, um, you know, what's Mike
Tyson say, everyone's got a plan.

They'll, they get punched in the face.

Right.

So I had plans, but I got
punched in the face in day one.

So after day one, you know, I'm going
out hot, you know, I'm going up fast.

I'm like, oh, I'm excited.

I'm feeling good.

And I was wrecked by the
end of the first day.

Like, so I was trying to
maintain a certain pace so that

I can manage all of the days.

So the pace I was trying to stay within
was seven minutes to seven and a half

minutes per kilometer so that I could,
so that I could be prepared for the

next day and the next day and the next.

And now if it was just one or two
or three days, then that changes.

But this was more of a
challenge of attrition rather

than a challenge of speed.

Right.

Right.

So the first day I was.

I had severe headaches because of the
smoke and then, um, you know, at the

end of the day, I was reflecting and I
thought I had done pretty well, but I

woke up in the next morning and so I,
I tracked my metrics in terms of my HRV

heart rate and various other things and I
use a whoop strap to do that and the next

morning I woke up, my recovery was at 2%.

It was like as low as it can get.

So I was like pretty wrecked, um,
from an, from a, uh, say that better.

I wasn't wrecked.

I could still do all the things
I needed to do, but just from a

recovery perspective, I wasn't ideal.

So, and then.

On the second day, um, the warnings
went out further saying, okay,

we, people shouldn't be running.

And then I'm getting messages from
various people saying, and people

that I respect would be like, Hey, you
need to reevaluate what you're doing

here because you don't want to cause
any health issues, um, running in

the smoke, this, that, and the other.

And now I just started this thing,
I got things going through my head.

I'm got a severe headache.

I got all these things going on.

I'm like, okay, man, what do I do here?

And, uh, and then on top of that, my, my
girlfriend was with me the entire time.

She was a support throughout the
entire process, which was amazing.

She was the support vehicle as well.

And so I had a massive support in that
regard by her and, um, but her car

was having issues on after day one.

So, so on day two, it wasn't starting.

So now I'm like, okay, I got a headache.

Um, I'm getting all these messages.

I, uh, it's smoky and
the car's not working.

What am I going to do now?

So then I was like, okay, man,
let me just recalibrate here.

I found a gym in Revelstoke and I going to
run, let me run outside on the second day.

And after the first half, I was like,
okay, you know what, it's probably,

cause I, I couldn't even breathe.

Like I had to like, I was breathing
through my mouth because if I

was breathing through my nose,
I was taking in too much smoke.

So I was trying to conserve that.

And then I was like,
uh, you know what, man.

The goal is to get the kilometers in.

So I was like, okay, I found a gym
and I did, uh, I did the marathon

on one full day on the treadmill.

So I ran 42.

3 kilometers on a treadmill on, I think
it was day, so day two, I ran half of it

on a treadmill, went inside, day three,
I did a whole thing on a treadmill.

And then we ended up figuring out
the car, the car got squared away.

And then day four, we moved on from, uh.

Um, Revelstoke on to the next
town, but, uh, there were

challenges right at the beginning.

How did you

Travis Bader: feel when you
jumped on that treadmill?

Did you feel like this, this wasn't
how I envisioned myself doing this?

Was there that kind of thought?

Sachin Latti: There was
a little bit of that.

There was a little bit like, oh,
people are going to chirp me.

He's on a treadmill.

He's not outside this,
that, and the other.

And I just thought, look, man, I got to.

Get the kilometers done.

So I just framed it differently after,
um, I know I didn't want to stay

inside too much because I, I just,
that wasn't what I wanted to do.

I wanted to run outside at the very least.

Right.

So, you know, on that one day I stayed
on the treadmill, it cleared up just

a little bit more on the next day.

So then I was able to run outside
and I stayed in Revelstoke and ran.

42 kilometers within the entire town.

So anywhere you want to go in Revelstoke,
I know where to take you, man.

I know everything.

I know, I know everywhere to go.

All

Travis Bader: the back alleys.

Everything.

But,

Sachin Latti: uh, but you know,
I initially was, it did bug

me, but then, you know what?

I was like, man, whatever, I'm still
getting it in and I'm still going to

do what's required and we're still
going to raise the money because the

ultimate goal is to run the kilometers,
raise awareness and raise funds.

Travis Bader: Do people chirp

Sachin Latti: you?

Sean Taylor,

Travis Bader: but, but

Sachin Latti: it's a good chirp, right?

For me,

Travis Bader: it's coming
from a place of love.

Yeah.

So for me,

Sachin Latti: when I, when I
get certain trips from certain

people, I pay attention to them.

When I get certain shirts from some other
people, I don't pay attention to them.

Travis Bader: So I was just listening to
a podcast, uh, past podcast guests on the

Silvercore podcast, John Sinai, love that
guy, amazing fellow, looking forward to

when we can actually meet face to face.

But, um, uh, he was talking
about a quote and says, don't

pay attention to the critics.

Don't pay attention to the critics.

Don't even ignore them.

Meaning.

Mm hmm.

Meaning that it doesn't even rise
to the dignity of a response.

You're not, you're not
actively ignoring them.

It's just, it's not even there.

You're just so far into your
own process and your own thing

that it doesn't even kind of.

I mean,

Sachin Latti: it, and to be honest, it,
it does, it didn't for me in those things

didn't really, um, enter in because.

Then I started thinking, okay, someone's
going to trip me who doesn't really know

me and who doesn't know what I'm doing
and who doesn't know what I've already,

um, gone through to come to the point
of running 22 or at least attempting the

fact of running 22 marathons in a row.

Um, they, they, they.

I have zero concept as to
what's actually happening.

And so I can't really even take
that information cause they have

no clue of what's happening.

Travis Bader: And people in front,
don't chirp the people behind them.

The people behind will
chirp up front, right?

And that's something to always
kind of keep in the mind.

The people up front,
they're doing their thing.

Yeah.

They'll, they'll show back encouragement.

Yeah.

The people behind are the ones who will
try and chirp back, hold the person back.

Well, and you

Sachin Latti: know, that's cool man.

They can chirp from behind.

I'll turn this.

That's right.

I'll turn back this way and I'll

Travis Bader: say, pick up the pace.

That's right.

Come on.

You can do it too.

Yeah, come on up here.

Because

Sachin Latti: that's all I'm saying, man.

Yeah.

Like to be honest, I'm like,
bro, if I could do this.

Mm-hmm.

, anyone can do anything.

If you're given enough time and
effort, look, yes, it's running and

maybe I'm, um, um, somewhat of an
athlete and I've kind of, you know,

these are the things I like to do.

So it's, you know, it's a thing,
but it's just the thing, anyone

can look at a thing that they love
to do and go all in and crush it.

Like it's, it's, and it's not,
I'm, I'm not saying anything

that people don't know.

I'm just saying something in real time.

So people can really understand I'm you.

I just finished doing something and
it just took me a year of training,

or let's say three years of effort to
create a runner, but anyone can do that.

Travis Bader: And that applies
in all aspects of life.

Like I remember like right now,
we've got Adobe edition running.

I will edit this on Adobe premiere.

I'll make the graphic on Adobe Photoshop.

I did stuff in after effects.

I looked at this stuff.

I'm like, this is a completely
different language a few years ago.

I can't do this.

This is for other people.

This is for smart people who
are graphically inclined,

you know how to do this.

And one day something clicked.

I'm like, you know what?

I'm just going to figure this out.

I just sat down and it's been a long slog.

But I've got the ability to, to run
these things, something that I thought

was completely out of my realm.

And it makes me start
questioning what other things

do I think are out of my realm?

Learning new languages?

No, you just, you plug away, you do it.

Um, physical goals.

Ah, and then that's the physical side
has always been something that I've never

had an issue with I'll injure myself.

I'll have difficulties, but
from the mental tenacity and

just dogged stubbornness side,
I always know I'll get there.

I might not be the fastest.

I might not be in the front
of the line, but I know I can

do it because I won't give up.

But

Sachin Latti: I mean, that's
exactly the point, right?

At the end of the day, it's just a
matter of just consistency of effort.

Keep doing the thing over and over
and over again, and then you'll,

you'll be the best version of you.

You may not be the best in the world.

But as long as you're being
the best version of you, man,

that's all anyone can ask for.

Yeah.

Travis Bader: Yeah.

Good friend of mine.

He's, uh, says, you know,
there's a common thread that

I'm, I'm hearing on your podcast.

You have these people on
that do amazing things.

You've got green berets and Navy
SEALs and SAS and elite athletes.

And, and the, the common thread is
that anybody can do this, right.

He said, but that's not true.

And.

Not everybody can be a Green
Beret, not everyone can be SAS.

Not everyone can run across Canada.

And, um, he says, well, what
do you think about that?

I said, well, I think
everyone can do better.

I think everybody can have goals
that they can set for themselves

and they can look at where they're
currently at now, because I agree.

Not everyone can be elite special
forces, but they can take a look

at where they're at right now
and they can say, I can do more.

Sachin Latti: Agreed.

So like, so let's say, for
example, let's take that special

forces analogy for a second.

Maybe when, if you know that
you want to do that, when you're

13, then anyone can do it.

Cause you have the time to
prepare yourself to figure

out how to make that happen.

Right.

Um, let's take Nim's dive, for example.

Okay.

So he was able to do something epic
and amazing and a record of, you know,

climbing the seven, seven, what was the
seven tallest peaks in seven months.

At the age of 15, he could run 50 K.

Right.

Cause he was running around all the time.

Like his body had a headstart to
some people because he was knew

what he wanted to do and he spent
time and effort in trying to

achieve a goal, even at a young age.

So if you know what you want, if you
know what your purpose is and you

said, um, you know, a plan in place
and then how fast you want to do that

thing, you'll get there, but it's
determining what that thing is for you.

So.

You know, anyone can be a tier one
operator if they are aware of who

they are and at the time in which they
decide to want to take that court.

And then obviously the support pieces.

But if you're 12 you have a father, that's
like, okay, that's what you want to do.

I'll support in that endeavor.

Okay.

Do this, do that, do this, do that.

And then who knows, maybe it happens.

Travis Bader: Yeah.

You know, there's always going to be
physical and, and mental limitations

within the, within the sphere here,
but it doesn't mean they can't.

Pushed from where they are now to
another phase, to the next stage.

Um, and it's funny, you mentioned
Nim's dying because things

kind of come full circle.

He's inspired so many people.

Yeah.

Right.

Um, indirectly, cause I'm,
I'm watching what he's doing.

I'm like, man, that's so cool.

You know, I'm watching
him do some paragliding.

Right.

Hey, that's pretty neat.

Right.

Turns out I, I know the person
who taught him how to paraglide.

I found out in an indirect way, I
don't know the person personally,

but, um, enough that, uh, me
and the fellow who taught him,

uh, we're going to do a podcast.

He's like, well.

I'm over in Chamonix right now in France
and, um, uh, living there for a bit.

And he's going to come over to BC.

I'm like, I'll just come over to
you and tell you what, I got to

pick up a paraglider and I'll go
do some paragliding in Chamonix.

Yes.

And so I did, and I've been learning
how to paraglide and I've been just.

Doing my thing around
here for a little bit.

And I've since learned
there's a lot to it.

And maybe me going to Chamonix at my
beginner level, and that's sort of an

elite sort of place to be paragliding
might not be the smartest thing

to do, but, um, it's on the list.

Why not?

Uh, from a safety standpoint, just
learning how to properly control

and, and in different, uh, weather
conditions, wind conditions, um,

adiabatic winds, adiabatic winds, all,

Sachin Latti: all the.

The only reason I ask why is because,
um, I'm just thinking about my experience

when I first entered in ultra running
and, um, I just entered in nine races.

So, okay.

So in 2022, I did nine ultra
marathons in nine months.

Right.

And I had never done that before.

I hadn't even done a marathon before.

Right.

So, so, um.

So what I did was do that, schedule that.

And the first race I went to, I
never experienced or even saw what

an ultra, and I went, the first
one I went to was a backyard ultra,

which are like notoriously difficult
because you're doing a six kilometer

loop over and over and over and over

Travis Bader: mentally.

That's gotta

Sachin Latti: be tough.

Yeah.

And so that alone, and then I didn't know,
um, I posted this actually on my social

media the other day, Chad Wright, talking
about how do you find a mentor and he's,

Chad Wright's a Navy, retired Navy SEAL.

He, uh, he's a ultra endurance guy.

Anyways, I heard him on a podcast.

I think it was on the Nick Bear podcast.

And he was talking about, the question
was, how do you find a mentor?

And how does one find a mentor
if they want to learn something?

And he, you know, he, uh, Chad Wright
just picked up, okay, well, let's take,

um, let's take ultra endurance, ultra
marathons, for an example, if you want to

be a ultra marathoner, how do you do that?

Well, he suggested you enter,
you just sign up for a race.

Even if you don't know a
thing, you go show up and then

you'll see what you don't know.

You'll see that, oh, you don't
have the right nutrition.

You don't have a race pit, you don't
have support, all the things associated.

So when he was saying all these things,
I was like, that was me two years ago.

Cause I registered for this backyard.

I showed up with no crew.

And in these things, you have like a
crew, a pit crew to help you because

you, you stop, you get your fluids,
nutrition, and then you keep moving.

Right.

So I didn't have that.

I didn't even bring any food.

I maybe brought like, you know, very
minimal, nothing compared to what I

would do now at the shoes, the clothes,
all the things I was so ill prepared.

But you did it.

But I did it.

I entered it.

I, and I epically failed in
terms of like how far I made it.

Like there was people,
savages, 300 kilometers.

I think I was like 47 kilometers
or something in my first time.

Um, but, but what it taught me
was like, I don't know anything.

And there's a ton of
people out there that do.

And it just, um, it opened my
eyes up to what's possible.

And then through that, I was in an
environment where people could see I was

nobody or just starting out and they would
be like, Hey, man, do that, or try this,

or would point me in different directions.

So unless, and until I entered
in an environment that I wanted

to actually enter into, how does
one find a mentor in that space?

Because you have to do the thing
to be able to start doing so for

example if I want to start hunting
well I got a Start doing something.

And through that, start meeting
people in that collective who

may say, Oh, you know what?

I'll take you on, I'll
help you out or whatever.

But you have to start going in
those environments, otherwise

you're never going to excel.

You

Travis Bader: just either advertently or
inadvertently under covered what I feel

to be the number one life hack and that's
surround yourself with the people who

are doing what you want to be able to do.

Reach out to the experts in the industry.

There's one guy who's talking
about, um, Uh, all I want to

learn about, I forget what it was.

It was maybe some neurosurgery
or, or whatever it is.

So I'm going to reach out to the
top neurosurgeon and say, Oh,

how much do you make an hour?

And okay.

If I were to pay you exponentially
more than that in a month's time

to spend a full day with you.

Could you put something together
for me and distill all of the

main information that you think
would be important for me to know?

And they said, that person
spent so much time putting all

of that information together.

They sat down, they distilled all of
this information over and then they

wanted to see them succeed afterwards.

So you don't, you value
that mentor's time.

You value the person.

You don't just sit there and be a
leech and take advantage of them.

And you make sure you actually put
into practice and, and, um, Work that

information that they provide you.

So you seem grateful, right?

Sachin Latti: It makes sense, man.

And I think, um, on the endeavors that
I'm moving on to now, I think that's

a important thing to remember for me.

Cause like I, like, just like you, I have
difficulty valuing, um, some of the things

that I may be able to offer some people.

So I'm going into the coaching space now.

Right.

And, and I want to start, um,
um, helping, or not even helping

working with other people.

Who have certain types of goals,
and I want to be able to at least

facilitate through my experiences
that, uh, that they can achieve their

own goals, whatever they may be.

So, for example, I was speaking to
a guy this morning who, who is a

new client and really, really a guy
that I'm going to be working with.

And, um, He's a, he's a first responder.

He's, um, lives in the Okanagan
area and he wants to be able to

do a fundraiser next year, um, to
raise money for wounded warriors.

And by way of doing it, he wants to
run a 60 kilometers from one cenotaph

to the other across the interior.

I think it's from a Soyuz to, um, I can't
remember the Penticton maybe or something.

I can't remember the, the,
the actual route, but anyways,

he was talking about this.

So I want to talk to people like that.

And, and, and, and, and be able to
see if I can support people with the

knowledge I've gathered over the last
little while to be able to help them

achieve their goal, but not only just
achieve their goal, but crush their goal.

Cause not just running the 60 K that he's
planning to do, but how do we help him

raise up the community that he's in and
then also use maybe various different

platforms to raise as much money and all
the things associated to what he's doing.

So for me, that's kind of.

The space I'm moving towards.

And I think, um, now that I've kind
of experienced a few things and

I'm going to continue experiencing
things, cause I'm not going to be

that type of guy who's going to be
like, Hey, you do this, you do that.

I mean, I'm, I want to be in
the trenches all the time, so

I'm always pushing my envelope.

I'm always trying to
see what, what I can do.

And then through that process, whatever
I can learn through that testing myself,

both in extreme conditions, and then the.

Best conditions, then I can
call the kind of collate that

information and bring it together.

And then based on the individual
that I'm speaking with, find the

right solutions specifically just

Travis Bader: for them.

When did you come to that realization?

Was this prior to the 22 or is this
a very recent, very, so you fast

forwarded to the, after the 22, which.

Um, I, I think it's amazing.

Um, I want to talk more about that,
but in an effort to try and not

let my ADHD run all over the place.

Let's stick to what

Sachin Latti: you got, bro.

Um,

Travis Bader: injuries on the 22?

Sachin Latti: So I'm really happy
with the training that, um, Myself

and my, my coaches and my supporting
people around me, kinesiologists and,

um, physiotherapists and people, um,
I didn't have anything significant,

you know, a missing toenail and some
swollen feet, plantar fasciitis, your

kind of typical sort of, um, issues
that happen from, from accumulation.

But outside of that, man, I, it's
the main, biggest hit I took is to my

central nervous system, which is going
to happen no matter what, when you're

doing something that's, um, that large and
over a period of time, so, so there's a

CNS fatigue, so central nervous fatigue.

So right now I'm.

I'm probably going to stay away
from a major strenuous activity for

about three to four weeks so I can
recover my central nervous system.

So what that means is if I were to
go for, okay, so I went to mental

health walk, uh, the one that
Seb puts on every other Sunday.

And I went there this last
Sunday, it was a two hour walk.

I was exhausted after.

Like, so it's a level of fatigue
that is like, not normal for me.

So, which indicates that I'm,
uh, I've had a bit of a, uh,

CNS fatigue and which is normal.

So,

Travis Bader: um, is
that like a mental thing?

Is that

Sachin Latti: a physical body thing?

Like it just, uh, internal, uh,
your nervous system is kind of,

uh, fatigue based on overstressed.

So, um, you know, like basically almost
each day for the last four days, like

around two o'clock, I'm like, I'm
lying down, I'm kind of exhausted.

I'm drained, so to speak.

Um, but that is normal.

So, you know, things that are, uh, to
kind of fix that are obviously, you

know, rest, stretch, eat properly,
anti inflammatory, you know, do anti

inflammatory things to, and, you know,
make sure the, the inflammation reduces.

But so to answer your question,
that's the most significant

thing that's been affecting me.

CNS stress.

Travis Bader: Can that,
so that would be from the.

Physical, can the mental induce CNS?

Like I think so.

Sachin Latti: Yeah.

I mean, I could be wrong, but even
let's say, for example, if I'm thinking

like over the last few days, I've been
thinking a lot because I'm trying to

do a bunch of different things and
I'm exhausted even after thinking.

So I think the, um, the, the
energy required to think.

And when you're dealing with stress
and these types of things, I think it

really takes a toll on the body as well.

So as you can imagine, I'm not just
running those 22 days and I'm booking

hotels and gas, food, groceries, like
all the things, managing everything all

at the same time, girlfriend dealing
with, you know, how to navigate the new

relationship as I'm running 22 marathons.

Like, so there's a lot of things
happening that, um, That, uh,

that I'm happy happened, man.

Cause I, I made it through and it all
worked out and I'm, you know, just

dealing with CNS, which is whatever.

Travis Bader: Well, I've read studies
that your brain consumes more energy

than any, any part of your body.

I believe it.

So when you're running, are you trying to
turn your brain off to preserve energy?

Are you, cause I know when I run and I
don't run like you, but when I run, I'm

thinking about business, I'm thinking
about, uh, all these other things.

And I find that affects my ability to run.

More than if I just keep
saying the same goofy song over

and over in my head, right.

Or, or God, that mantra that I go over.

Sachin Latti: Well, I mean, as
you can imagine, like on average,

I was running between five and
five and a half hours each day.

Right.

Yeah.

So, you know, there's ebbs and
flows of how I'm thinking, what I'm

thinking about, but I tried to stay
in the moment as much as I could

and tried not to think too much.

You know, I did, but I did my best not to.

So how did I do that?

Well.

There was, I was in some
beautiful areas, man.

Yeah.

So I'm, you know, even despite the
smoke, you know, despite the smoke,

I'm still like, um, you know, running
from, let's say Lillooet to Pemberton.

That's beautiful.

Travis Bader: Oh, it's a great area.

Yeah.

A lot of hills,

Sachin Latti: a lot of
elevation, but it's beautiful.

Right.

And so for me, I was
paying attention to that.

Were you

Travis Bader: running down the Duffy?

Yeah.

I did the Duffy road, bro.

Yeah.

Nice.

See any, any wildlife?

Sachin Latti: I did a little bit.

I saw a couple of deer, but nothing major.

I

Travis Bader: didn't see any
bears or anything like that.

The amount of grizz that I saw up
there a few months ago was insane.

Well,

Sachin Latti: yeah, man.

I mean, look, it is beautiful out there.

And I was thinking about that when I
was running, cause I thought, okay,

well, this fires and the smoke,
maybe that'll displace some of these

bears and some of these animals.

Maybe they may jump on the road.

Who knows?

Right.

So I was paying attention.

So I was staying in the moment and, um,
There were things I was trying to do,

like, man, like, uh, my legs were feeling
it and my feet were really feeling it

in terms of the inflammation and, and,
and, and, and the pain, so to speak.

So I was talking to another
friend of ours, uh, Julie Kelly.

She's a ultra endurance, uh, uh,
24 hour solo mountain bike racer.

She's gearing up to do the
world champion chip in Australia

here in the next few weeks.

And, um, so I, you know, I.

I asked her, I go, Hey man, like,
cause she's done a lot of like

long endurance kind of things.

And I go, Hey, like any
suggestions to kind of manage

my feet right now and my legs.

And while I was running.

And she's like, yeah, just find
a Creek, you know, jump in.

So, uh, was, um, getting towards
Squamish and you know, how

beautiful it is there, right?

Yeah, actually it wasn't, yeah,
Squamish area and, and all the,

you know, the Creeks, the rivers,
the rapids, all the things.

Yeah.

And I just, I was, I was
staying in the moment.

I was looking, I saw it and I was
like, I'm taking a 10 minute break.

Now the chicken moose there in Squamish.

So it was just kind of, I, it was
actually probably a little bit

dangerous, but I was like, whatever.

And I, it was, you know, the rapids
were kind of moving pretty fast.

And, um, I took my shoes off, my
socks, dip my legs in for 10 minutes.

And then that recalibrated
me like no other.

I felt, I felt fresh and I
kept, I almost went faster.

Nature, your bathing, right?

No man.

And so little things like
that to stay in the moment.

So I wouldn't think so much, but
you know, it's, I would be thinking

mm-hmm and, and it's gonna happen.

It's inevitable.

But I think, um, once they got to a
certain place, you know, I would, you

know, pay attention to the mountains,
the trees, the, the sounds of the birds.

I would also listen to music from
time to time, stay, listen to the same

songs over and over to kind of, Um,
I would, uh, try to, when I would be

running, I would periodically try to
touch the signs to stay in the moment.

So I do that.

Yeah.

Right.

And, and, or maybe, um, touch some of the
flowers or the trees while I'm running

just to kind of stay in the moment, little
things like that to stay, stay present.

And, um, you know, those
things helped for sure.

Very cool.

Travis Bader: So I, anything else
we should know about the during?

Sachin Latti: Think for me during,
um, the, the, the Once I hit 11,

halfway mark, then I was good.

Like in terms of mentally,
like really secure.

I'm like, look, I made it halfway.

If I'm halfway done, I'm all the way done.

There's no way it's helping now.

So it was really me going through
those first five, 10, 11 days

were the most challenging.

Travis Bader: You're
doing those daily posts.

And I remember when you reached the 11
and I admit, I left a post on there saying

halfway there, you're it's all downhill.

You're, you're, you're good to go.

But I, I put that there because.

I don't know if I was reading more into
it than I, than what was happening,

but it looked like there was some, um,

Sachin Latti: it was challenging.

It was, I listen, man, it was, it
was, it was It was challenging, man.

And those challenges were a gift.

I'm so happy I had them.

It was hard.

Yeah, it was hard and it was
emotionally draining for me.

Yeah.

Travis Bader: That's what I was

Sachin Latti: picking up on.

Yeah.

It was emotionally draining.

Cause look, man, I, and credit to Julia,
who's my girlfriend, she, you know,

we've only been dating for like six
months or something and, and, um, so she.

So there were challenges in that
because we're experiencing ups

and downs and how do you navigate
that and how do you best do it?

So she's never been around someone
who's been a ultra endurance person.

She's an athlete herself, but it's a
different thing also when someone's doing

a, um, a large sort of ultra endurance
event, it is, it generally becomes about

that individual and supporting them
and making sure that they're all there.

And so she wasn't really too
familiar on some of that.

So there was some challenges there, but
I think overall it worked out amazing.

She was super supportive.

She learned a lot through the process.

I learned a ton through that process
and how to properly communicate with

someone, um, who's like herself.

So that was helpful for me
to understand that piece.

And then also at the end of the
day, man, she's, she was amazing.

Yeah.

Like, I mean, I had someone.

Supporting me, who's a business
woman herself, who has her own

business, who's servicing all her
own clients and supporting me while

I'm running five and a half hours
every single day with her vehicle.

And so, you know, um, challenges,
yes, but they're all good ones.

Travis Bader: I like that properly
communicate comment because so many

people are like, you're not listening.

You're not this.

It's not the other person's job.

If I'm saying something and
it's not coming through.

That I have to recalibrate, readjust and
figure out, how do I say this differently?

How do we get there together?

Right.

Sachin Latti: Yeah.

And that's kind of, that's a journey
for me too, because I've been, uh, if

I were to really look at myself over
my, most of my life, I've been a solo.

Um, character, so to speak, and, and even
though I've been around people, it's, I

think I've been kind of an individual.

A one man wolf pack.

Kind of.

And, and I think for me, it's really
important and good to be around people

who, um, who are like say Julia and others
to help me understand the benefits and

actually how much more growth and how
much more positive things will happen

as a group, as a collective, as a team.

Travis Bader: So now we move to
after, when it was done, what were

you feeling immediately after it
was done, was it like, oh, thank

God, or I want to do another one.

Sachin Latti: Man, at the end, I was, um.

I was thinking about next, what's next.

Um, and I already kind of had a rough
idea, even the last couple of days,

what would next was, I was, but on the
last day I wanted to enjoy, I made it

to Victoria and it was probably the
strongest I felt like I've, I felt like

I could have ran faster on that last day.

So I had, uh, I tempered myself a
bit, but I believe, you know, some

of that adrenaline excitement getting
through the end was really driving me.

Um, and it was, uh.

Emotional and touching.

I didn't, I thought how
I may respond at the end.

I thought it would have broken
down and got super emotional.

I didn't, but it was emotional.

I made it to the BC law
enforcement memorial in

Victoria at the BC legislature.

I paid my respects and to my surprise,
uh, it was about 12, a dozen Victoria

police members there waiting to
receive me with the chief of police.

And that was unexpected for me.

And I had a inkling that may happen,
but to see how they were there and,

um, how they received me, man, it was
really humbling and it was touching.

And, um, and then, uh, the news was
there, Czech news, they did a little

story and the decree, the cherry on top.

Was when I was kind of the, the chief,
uh, Del Manic asked me to kind of

give a few words and I was like, I
just ran, but I was like, okay, cool.

I'll do my best.

And then, and so what they ended up doing,
we had the monument behind me and then

they were kind of semicircle around and.

I was just saying my thing and I
was looking and then to my left,

there was a civilian, uh, elder
fella, maybe in the seventies.

And, uh, he raised his hand
cause he wanted to say something.

I was like, yeah, yeah, what's up bro.

And man, um, it, it was so
awesome to have him there.

And I'll explain why it was like that
Pavlov dogs sort of theory, you know, when

you get positive reinforcement immediately
after something that you've done.

So he was a veteran, uh, he's also
a retired Toronto police service.

Um.

He had been in the Air Force in
the 60s and 70s, and then he was,

um, worked for Toronto, and he was
diagnosed with complex PTSD based on

his service, so you, and based on how
he was communicating, I think there

were various other, maybe some issues
that may have come up through service.

Anyways, having said that, he just wanted
to, I mean, I just feel weird saying

this, but, um, he wanted to thank me.

And he was like, uh, look, I
can't believe what you just did.

Cause he, he was just a random
dude walking around and he

had saw what was going on.

And he came up to Julia's vehicle,
saw my, the signs on the vehicle

and started asking, what is this?

What's going on?

And then she started explaining it to him.

And then he was like, what?

So then he wanted to come
in and say something.

And he was just saying, look,
this was my service, this is

what happened through my service.

Thank you.

I cannot believe what you just did.

What you just did is super
helpful and thank you.

And I was like, I gave him a hug
and I said, no, man, thank you.

That's awesome.

And that for me was the
metal that I wanted.

Travis Bader: That's amazing.

Yeah.

You know, I, I find I'm guilty of this.

I will set goals for myself.

I'll achieve that goal.

And I'm already setting the next goal.

What you said resonated.

You said you wanted to enjoy the moment.

He wanted to spend some time
to enjoy, to take a time, a

moment to celebrate your win.

I think that's a really powerful thing.

And it's something that I've
been disciplining myself on is.

Okay.

Recognize when I've reached a
certain goal and then find a

way to properly celebrate it.

How did you celebrate?

Sachin Latti: I celebrated it.

So I understand like, look,
Julia was there the whole time.

So she was also, you
know, part of the journey.

So I wanted her to also enjoy as well.

So we stayed in Victoria for a day
and a half after, and so I wanted

her to have some time to enjoy, and I
didn't want to be all about my thing.

I wanted to kind of do something together,
enjoy the weekend kind of thing, but

also Zach from the Canadian podcast,
he flew out and he was really awesome.

So he flew out to, uh,
to receive me as well.

Good on you, Zach.

Yeah.

Right.

And, um, and so he was there, he,
it was a surprise cause Julia had

mentioned that he was thinking about
coming, but he just couldn't make it

cause you know, it wasn't feasible.

So, um, he ended up showing
up, he just walked up and he's

like, Hey, what's up, bro.

And I was like, Oh, that's cool.

So what ended up happening is, um,
we just, me, him, and, uh, another

person, I think her name was Rhonda.

She showed up as well.

And we just all went for dinner.

Awesome.

We just, we just, me, Julia,
Zach, and Rhonda, we went out for

dinner and, um, I just wanted to.

Be there, not think about, cause I already
had an idea of what I was wanting to do.

And I knew I would at least need
three to four weeks of recovery time.

So I'll worry about that later.

Today we're in Victoria, man.

And we just did a thing.

Let's have a nice meal.

Let's hang out.

And then, uh, we'll move on tomorrow.

Travis Bader: So at
what point did the idea.

Of coaching into your mind?

Sachin Latti: So I've been a mentor
or coach in various different

capacities for like 20 years.

Right.

Um, you know, from a bodybuilding
perspective, from in the workplace

and in law enforcement, um, and just
in general with what I do, you know,

uh, juujitsu and various things.

Mm-hmm.

. Now, having said that, I
never thought I was a coach.

Yeah.

I never believed in myself to be able
to deliver information in a manner

that would be receptive to people.

Um, but these are all things that
were, uh, That I've corrected

over the last couple of years.

And really the last year or so, I feel
like, you know, I have a little bit

of knowledge and I can share that.

So that's one aspect of why I
think I can, why I've entered

this sort of, um, idea in my head.

The other one was like, look, I'm,
I work for the federal government

and, um, I want to be able to
continue doing what I'm doing.

And I want to be able to do it, uh, in
a At a faster rate, and I want to be

able to impact as many people as I can.

And I want to be able to just
do a lot of positive things.

So for me, I had to think of a
way to remove that safety net.

And, uh, for me, I have a
safety net and I wanted to think

about how do I remove that?

So I can really freak out.

And get super uncomfortable and start
really growing in another way, not just

physically, but from an entrepreneurial,
from a mental, from a, every perspective

that you can imagine in that space.

So I thought, okay, what skills do I
have and how do I, how do I refine that?

And how do I create something
that can sustain myself so I can

continue doing what I'm doing?

So I can continue doing what I'm
doing at a high level, and then also,

um, help others at the same time.

So that's where the
coaching came into mind.

Now, what do I mean by
remove the safety net?

Well, you know, I'm now
going to think about.

And well, why would I remove a safety net?

Well, because the safety net
is just keeping me complacent.

I'm receiving money in a certain area and.

It's still a net.

It's still a net.

And you know, the reality is I can, I
see, I just see a lot more growth for

me doing something else without a net.

So

Travis Bader: this is the thing
that really got me excited when

you, we were talking before.

I was like, let's not talk about this.

We got to record it.

Cause I want it to be a genuine reaction.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you said for removing the safety
net, you'd be leaving law enforcement.

And then focusing full efforts

Sachin Latti: on.

Coaching, coaching, coaching and training.

That's it.

That's it.

Like, and, and look, and I'm, I want
to be able to learn how to be a really

good coach through this process as well.

And I want to deliver a high
level sort of information at a.

Reasonable rate.

And I think I, you know,
bring value to that.

So that's kind of where I'm, I'm, I'm
going out and like, look, this may

evolve into something else entirely.

I have no clue.

I have, I already

Travis Bader: have ideas for you.

Okay, great.

But so,

Sachin Latti: but I'm just
saying like, right, that's the

initial sort of entry, right?

And this will evolve and this will change
and this will do all kinds of things.

I'm sure.

I don't know whether it'll look
like, and my friend, Sean, kind

of, I kind of function in some way.

Similar to him, not nearly as close,
but in the sense of, um, you know, I set

a goal, I have no clarity whatsoever.

And I just moved down that path until
the clarity starts showing up to me.

So that uncertainty, that, um, chaos,
that all of those things, even though

I don't feel good and it sucks.

I do my best in that
environment, if that makes sense.

So like, for me, I, I
don't like this feeling.

Where am I going to pay my next bill?

I don't like the feeling of,
oh, how am I going to do this

thing or that thing or whatever.

It feels uncomfortable,
just like anyone else.

But I know I function well in that space.

Now, before I didn't
really understand that.

It just felt uncomfortable.

I don't want to do it.

Oh, but I, because of the things
that I've done and I've, I've.

Entered in environments where, um,
there's been tons of uncertainty and

I've been successful and I've actually,
I've been thriving in those environments.

I'm like, Oh, I get it.

I kind of need that to really get
better as who I am as a person, if

that makes any sense at all, whatever.

You

Travis Bader: know, I think obviously from
a physical standpoint, from a physical

conditioning, you've had years of.

Other coaches and
information and knowledge.

And this would be an ultimate life
hack for somebody to be able to,

I want to do something physical.

What, what clothing do I wear?

What shoes do I wear?

What, what's my diet look like?

What's my training schedule?

Like those things will just be like
top of your head, super easy for you.

The, I think.

Biggest transferable skill that you
can help people with more than anything

would be the mental management process.

I know we've had Ryan Stacey on here
in the past and he's a, what was it?

Five, six time, uh, service rifle
champion over and over, keeps winning

and he attributes it to the mental
management process and how that's

applicable to sports, to business,
to all these different areas.

And so many people like want
to play basketball, right?

They say, oh, you know, it's
a 90 percent mental 10 percent

doing or shooting is 90%.

And they come up these skewed stats.

I don't know where they come up with
them, but they all seem to recognize

how heavy the mental side is yet you
go see a coach and what do they do?

They spend all of their
time on the physical sides.

And maybe that's because that's an
easier quantifiable way for people

to, uh, see action from the coach.

But I honestly think what you've been
learning on the mental management process

is something that'll transcend all of
those things, and it would be worth a

lot of money for people to just life
hack that, spend some time with you.

And go over where they're at right now
and say, how would you deal with this

such, and what would you do, um, give
me some tips and tricks of how you

overcame obstacles, adversity, difficulty.

I, I think that's where the, um, uh,
I think that's the area where a person

could really separate themselves from

Sachin Latti: the competition.

Look, man, I agree a hundred percent.

And, um, and like you said, the, um,
the customizable nutrition, customizable

training, all these types of things,
easy peasy from in comparison to

some other things, like I can, I
can kind of write those things up.

Decently.

Yeah.

Um, you're right.

It's the mindset and, and I kind of steal
a little bit of Sean's thunder here and,

and, and some of the things that he says.

And, and I agree with,
and I'll just say it too.

Um, everything is when
it comes to physical.

Really anything is 90 percent
mental and 10 percent mental.

It's all mental.

Everything is mental.

A hundred percent of it's mental.

And the reality, how I know that
is because of, through my own lived

experience, the things that I've done.

And then also the things that I've
been, that I've seen other people

do think that they've never thought
possible and not even anything crazy.

So for example, um, I think it was
like day 18 or 19, I was in and around

the Maple Ridge area running marathons
and a couple of friends joined.

Actually three of us, it was me, Julia,
Travis, uh, another buddy, Travis.

Yeah.

Uh, he's a firefighter
in, in, um, in Surrey.

And I'd be okay if

Travis Bader: people thought that
I was beside you, that's okay.

But it was

Sachin Latti: Travis.

He also has a, he has a
nice, uh, uh, side gig.

He does these awesome Yeti tip
coolers, but it's called Haruki.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Travis, he's a Surrey firefighter
and his, his partner is, uh, is

working to become a counselor anyway.

So they showed up, right.

I'm running 42 kilometers.

That's happening.

So Julia wanted to run event that day,
22, you know, run 11, then run another 11.

She hadn't done that in quite some time.

And who's Travis's partner
wanted to run five.

That was her plan.

And she didn't expect to
run anything more, nothing.

And when she showed up, I'll
go, no, you'll run more.

She's like, I'm not prepared.

I can't, it'd be good.

So we ended up running through the
process and she like, at the end

of it, she ended up running 11.

Right.

Good for her.

Yeah.

And, but really it was all mindset.

Yeah.

It wasn't anything had to do
with her physical capacity,

physical capabilities, zero.

So it was just the right sort of
mindset, the right sort of coaching

in those small little moments to
let her know that, Hey man, you're

actually can probably do a lot more.

So for example, like, uh, I was
speaking to Ian, who's my new client

this morning, he's never run 60
kilometers before he's run a marathon

before, but sometimes some people
may think I've only done a marathon.

I don't know if I can get to that 60, bro.

Have you run a marathon?

60 is a wrap right now.

You can do it right now.

Like it's legitimate, like, yeah, a
hundred percent right now, you can do it.

Just slow down.

Well, you slow down or it's
just the mindset because you've

already set a cap on yourself
because you can't go more than 42.

But if you're going to run
42, 18 isn't that much more

if you're able to manage it.

Now, if you're talking about speed,
well, that changes it a little bit,

but you can still figure that out.

The reality is man, like if you
think you can run 10, you can run 21.

Your body's capable of it.

Travis Bader: I remember
heading up, I think it was Wedge

Mountain on this one, Jay Spud.

He's doing his ACMG
mountain guide process.

He's Vancouver Fire, ex British army.

And, um, I'm like, oh my God, why are
we going up this mountain so slowly?

It was like step, step.

We've got our packs and our gear
and axes and, um, ice screws and

ropes and everything that we have.

We're coming up to the, uh, uh,
the base camp, but before you

know it, I was at the base camp.

I didn't get winded
once I wasn't sweating.

I was like right as rain
like, man, I'm good to go.

Get a couple hours sleep, get an
Alpine start, get up this mountain.

And it's just finding that pace.

I find going with somebody
who's experienced enough.

Like I would go up, I'm
like, okay, let's go.

And I'd be huffing it up the mountain
and wheezing and, and feeling

it, but not being in the front.

So no one could see.

Well, that's the,

Sachin Latti: I think that's
the point of the coach, right?

Right.

And that's the point of the
mentor, whatever term you

want to give that person.

It's their job is to observe the
person who's trying to achieve the

thing and help them or facilitate
them to achieve the thing.

And it was so easy.

Travis Bader: Yeah.

It was so damn easy when you're with
somebody and he's, you know, he practices

his, the, the guide pace, he knows
the pitch, the distance, all the rest.

And it was.

What I thought was like,
why are we going so slow?

Sachin Latti: So you can get there.

Right.

And here's the thing too, man,
like when you're doing something

on your own, that adds to the
mental bandwidth and the stress.

So that also adds to the fatigue
and exhaustion during the process.

Cause you're uncertain
of how to tackle it.

But if you're prepared in advance
and you have an understanding of what

you're tackling, all those stressors
start reducing, even if you are alone.

Um, because now you understand it.

And then look, you've probably
done a ton of hikes and a lot of

them that are difficult and on
different camps and all these things.

So you have that to fall back
upon because you've done other

things that are more difficult.

Right.

And as soon as you can realize
that, then the thing that you're

currently in, even though it is
difficult, it's not going to kill you.

And if it's not going to kill
you, well, what's the problem?

That's

Travis Bader: right.

Let's keep going.

Right.

Let's keep going.

Yeah.

Have you spoken about this
on the collective yet?

Sachin Latti: No, not yet.

No, I haven't really, you're the
first person that I've spoken to

like in this kind of environment.

I think I posted it on my Instagram,
um, and you know, people liked

it and whatever else, but, um,
no, I haven't spoken at all.

Travis Bader: Wow.

There you go.

Breaking.

Sachin Latti: Yeah.

Breaking news, man.

Breaking news.

There we go.

It's actually been over the last.

Six days.

What day is it today?

Thursday, it's been seven days since
I've actually thought about this.

So as soon as I got back, I was thinking
about what to do, how to do it, how to

do all the things that I want to do.

And it requires me to remove a safety
net, enter in a space where I love to be.

I want to be able to see people grow
and want to see people do awesome stuff.

And I, and even if it's awesome
for them, it doesn't have to be

my, whatever I think is awesome,
whatever's awesome for them, man.

I, I get stoked at seeing people,
um, achieve their goals and then

see what's possible for them.

And that kind of pumps me up.

Yeah.

Travis Bader: I think that's really cool.

I know like Seb, he removed a safety net.

He's working on, on something as well.

And there's, there's always going
to be that challenge, right?

You're doing something brand new.

He has no, uh, limit that I can see to the
amount of inspiration and the amount of

knowledge that he can share with people.

It's awesome.

Oh yeah.

Uh, it's massive, but breaking
out into a brand new realm.

He's very fortunate to be surrounded
by other savages in the industry

who have traveled similar paths of
being an entrepreneur and can, can

share their thoughts and their ideas.

Um, do you have that, do you have those
sort of, uh, connections or resources?

Sachin Latti: I do now over the
last few years, because I've been

doing things that are positive.

I've been creating a life that, um, that
may, like I was talking about when the

Chad Wright example, the mentor thing,
you got to put yourself in an environment

where people start turning around and
saying, Oh, what's going on over there.

Okay.

And then now I can maybe,
um, contact someone saying,

Hey, this is what I'm doing.

And they're like, yeah, tell me more.

But if they hadn't done certain things
and if I hadn't entered in the arena,

so to speak, cause Teddy Roosevelt.

Yeah.

The man in the arena.

Yeah.

So if I hadn't entered the
arena, then no one would.

Like that would have no connections.

So, you know, I'm sponsored by a
company called Magnum supplements.

Yeah.

I see the shirt.

Yeah.

Awesome.

Oh yeah, that's right.

Yes.

Uh, um, I just picked it up
and also Lululemon, I'm also a

Lululemon run ambassador and I
was signed the contract last year.

Good for you.

Yeah.

So now I, um, I'm, um, um, um, basically
an ambassador for that company in

the run capacity, which adds another
level of, uh, um, support I can

give other people in that regard.

Anyway.

So having said that, um, well,
shoot, I lost my train of thought.

What was I saying?

Travis Bader: It happens.

It happens.

Yeah.

I'm too busy writing these two things
down as you're, uh, as you're talking.

Sachin Latti: But, uh, but in terms of
the, the coaching piece, um, yeah, I just

started thinking about it and I think, you
know, I thought, let's see what happens.

Oh, you were saying the connections.

Yes.

So the connection pieces.

So Marcus, uh, he was, he, he, I
think he may have just recently

sold the company, but I think
he's still a good friend of mine.

And so I hit him up and I was
like, Hey man, so I'm thinking

about doing this thing.

Do you know anyone that can kind
of point me in the right direction

of how to kind of administratively
and logistically kind of.

Help me start this.

And so he pointed me
in the right direction.

Now I'm working with a company
that's going to help support at

least the beginning parts of me
understanding how to properly do this.

And the company is called,
uh, TRM it's based out East.

And what they do is basically help
fitness professionals and coaches and

scale their business so that they can be
self sufficient at home without having

to work in a gym and things like that.

So I'm working with this company now
to really help me understand sales.

Um, and help me understand how to properly
value what I'm doing, because these

are things that would just, I've been
doing it anyways for free for people,

like I've been just helped, like I have
another buddy of mine based out East.

Uh, he's, uh, he's
currently in the reserves.

He's also a lawyer.

Um, he was struggling himself with
mental health issues and, and, um, his

wife, um, passed away not too long ago.

So he was dealing with a lot of
that and depression and he ended

up gaining a ton of weight and.

In excess of 300 pounds.

And so I met with him, you know,
just through social media and we

connected and I think last year
and we just had conversations.

And then earlier this year, I kind
of helped him out by putting him

on a, on a bit of a plan and he's
already down, you know, 45 pounds.

And, and now I've, uh, hit him up
again to say, you know what, let's,

let's make this more of a structure
so we can get you really picking

up the pace a little bit more.

So, you know, people like
that have been helping with.

Just anyways.

So I thought, you know, let's continue
helping and look, I'm not looking to look.

I mean, anybody who wants,
you know, support and whatever

endeavor they're trying to do.

Great.

But I want to work with certain types of
people and people who are passionate and

people who want to achieve something for
themselves and for people around them.

So, you know, if, if it's in that
sort of space, then I'm cool with it.

If it's someone who wants to, you
know, maybe doesn't have that sort

of way of thinking, then, you know,
maybe I'll pass, but I want to work

with certain types of people and I
want to see if I can help in that way.

And really, to be honest, those
types of people help me and

helps me become a better person.

And it helps me.

Learn how to become a better coach.

Cause now if I'm going to be doing
this, I want to be good at it.

Totally.

And it's a new space for me.

So I have to understand the
nuances associated to it.

So now I'm learning a new thing.

Yeah.

Travis Bader: Have you
thought about writing a book?

These,

Sachin Latti: look, I've
thought of a ton of things, bro.

Um, and they're all on the docket.

It's just a matter of when's the
right time to do these things.

And, and, um, there is a time
and place for all these things.

And I think perhaps after a
couple more years, that'll happen.

You know,

Travis Bader: I would think.

If the, uh, the desire is there, even
documented the process anyways, speaking

into your, your phone or into a microphone
or whatever, and having that transcribed

through Descript, thrown into a PDF,
uploaded to AI, get, get the bones of the,

of a book together, and then a lecture
circuit where you, uh, say the same.

Same four or five things over and
over, but people will come back cause

they'll hear it in a different way.

They'll learn different things from there.

And I would think that that would, um,
from my standpoint, looking at you, it

looks like the natural progression is kind

Sachin Latti: of where you're going.

I agree, man.

And that's kind of been, um, my thought
process even over a year ago, right?

Yeah.

My ideas have been, um, I don't,
I think if you're tracking, you're

paying attention to what I'm doing, you
can kind of see where the end result

will be for me, at least in terms of
what I will do on a regular basis.

I just want to speak to people, share my
experiences, if that helps someone cool.

Um, you know, I was talking to another
friend of mine yesterday, actually,

and he lives in the Langley area and,
um, he notices in the Indo Canadian

community, the younger kids are.

You know, and that's community
specifically are dealing with some

issues as it relates to drugs and
gangs and, and things of that nature.

And so he's looking at starting up
a boys club in the Surrey area and

the Newton area and places like that.

And, you know, I was also volunteering
at the East end boys club and I would

kind of speak there a little bit.

So just sharing some, my
experience, if that helps some

kids, then yeah, I'll do that too.

But, um, but I think.

To your point, I can see that
eventually happening to a certain

degree where I'm traveling around
and having a chat every now and then.

Travis Bader: What an amazing lifestyle
and you're building it for yourself.

Just one brick at a time.

Yeah, I think

Sachin Latti: so.

I think it's, it's been organic too.

It's not like, oh, I want to be
a coach and I want to do that.

It's just been organic and it's just
been, you know, it's been very organic.

I'm still not going to change any
of the running goals that I have.

And really that really will actually help.

Complete what I'm trying to do in
terms of like, uh, how do I want to

serve even after I'm not physically
capable of doing certain types

of things, I want to still serve.

I still want to be helpful.

That's never going to change.

So I'm thinking also succession
planning for myself, right?

Like in 10 years, what
do I want to be doing?

Cause in 10 years, maybe I'm not running.

Maybe I want to.

Maybe I have a podcast.

Maybe, maybe I'm speaking on a Ted talk.

I mean, I

Travis Bader: don't know.

I could see that.

I see that in your future.

Yeah.

I

Sachin Latti: mean, I,
you know, and thank you.

I appreciate it.

And the, the, the, the vote of confidence
that I've been getting from people that

I respect is, is a very helpful for me.

And, um, but I know it's also a negative
thing for me because I've always been a

person of seeking external validation.

And now at the place I'm at now, I don't
seek it as much because, because I've.

Built a bit of it in myself now.

So I believe in myself, whereas I
don't seek out that external much, any

as much anymore, but I still kind of,
still kind of reach for it every now and

Travis Bader: then.

Well, I think the, and I get it, I get,
you know, seeking external validation and

looking at these things because I'm like.

I'll look at the charts and how the
podcast is doing and where things are at.

Not because I'm looking for that external
validation, but because I look at it

as a metric to where I was, where I'm
going, am I bringing value to the guests?

Am I being bringing value to the audience?

Um, I see you as being able to do
a Ted talk right now, honestly,

we've had Ted talk alumni.

On the Silvercore podcast of the past.

I, I, I view this as you saying
it's only 18 kilometers more, right?

You've already done this.

You've talked here.

Yeah.

You can do the extra 18 kilometers.

Sachin Latti: That's not a problem.

Well, you know what?

And then now that you've planted
that seed in my head, now maybe it'll

start growing and we'll start thinking
about it and start actioning things.

Cause you know, I do have time
for now in terms of organizing and

planning and writing and thinking
and reflecting over the last 22.

30 days.

And to your point, actually about
the, the reach and, you know, this

was kind of a interesting thing for
me to see and to track the metrics

of my social media actually, and
just based on Instagram alone.

And for me, I can only look at my
metrics compared to my previous metrics.

I don't know anyone else's metric.

Right.

They're irrelevant.

Yeah.

So for me, I just.

Look at mine and it helps me understand,
Oh, wait, people are resonating now

because like I don't have a huge social
media platform and, you know, in and

around 4, 000 on my Instagram and, uh,
in the month of August, based on the run.

An additional, over 500 followers
started following in August.

Wow.

And it's not like I didn't pay for that.

It's just natural people coming
to my account and starting to

follow based on what I'm doing.

So that tells me that people think
what I'm doing is, um, important

and it's resonating with them.

Well, you're bringing them

Travis Bader: value.

Yeah, it seems that way.

Right.

And you're sharing, they're
sharing that with others because

he said, this brings me value.

Watch this guy.

Sachin Latti: Yeah.

And so that one metric,
I was like, holy moly.

So I started really opening up my
Instagram, uh, over the last, really

in the month of August and really
the last few weeks, and it reached

a peak of accounts engaged 46, 000.

Holy crow.

Yeah.

And, and, and really pretty
much for most of that 22 days.

And that, so when I started really diving
deeper into that, then it started seeing

like, oh, wow, everyone's sharing it.

A ton of people are sharing it.

And then, uh, so it was a lot
of people that obviously I

only have 4, 000 followers.

So where are the other.

40, 000 people come from, right?

So there's people sharing it.

And, um, so that got me thinking,
wow, that's pretty cool.

So I was just looking in the over
close to 300, 000 impressions.

And so anyways, not, so why am I
saying that it's, the reason why I'm

saying is it helps me understand,
okay, I'm on the right path.

I'm doing the right things.

I'm now, I just have to do it better.

And that's, that's kind
of what I'm thinking.

Travis Bader: But it, you know, it also
speaks to the power of, of just the

masses of everybody out there who's
watching, who says, I find value in this,

what I'm listening to, I want to share
what such and as saying, um, and what a

huge difference that makes when people.

We'll share, subscribe, leave comments.

They don't necessarily have to
do anything and leave money.

Money's great.

That's fantastic.

But those simple pieces
are what's going to change.

There's a guy over in
Ireland, um, King of chemo,

Sachin Latti: have you read him?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

Travis Bader: yes, yes.

He's doing the exact same thing.

And he says, look it, you
don't have to have money.

My goal is before I die, he's been
diagnosed with terminal brain cancer.

Before I die, I'm going
to try and raise as many.

Eyes on me as possible.

The money will come from the large
corporations who will benefit

from having those eyes, right?

And he's got what, like 2 million
people that are following him now?

Sachin Latti: He's got a lot.

And, and it's been climbing because over
the last couple of years, he was in the,

you know, maybe like a hundred thousand.

And now that's really rising.

And I think that's awesome, man.

And that's kind of what I'm.

Tapping into a little bit, right.

Cause I understand, again, I understand
how I look and understand how I

speak and, you know, I'm kind of
doing something kind of fun, right.

And it's entertaining and I'm
meeting with cool people and

those cool people are pretty legit
and people want to see them too.

And so it's just, um, I don't know.

I'm just, I'm just having fun.

I'm just doing what I like to do.

And it seems to be, um, it seems to be
that people are enjoying it with me.

Travis Bader: Is there anything
else we should be talking about

before we look at wrapping up?

Sachin Latti: Um, I don't know, man.

I just, I'm glad that we had this awesome
conversation and we spoke about the 22

and 22, which, um, you know, was awesome.

We all raised in those 22 days,
just, uh, just over 16, 000 for

the honor house society, which
is, Phenomenal and super awesome.

And, um, I'm really happy that people
were able to find, find it within

themselves to donate to the cause.

And so I want to say
thank you to those people.

I want to also say thank you to
anyone who's listening to this,

who have been following me.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you for the follow.

Thank you for the share.

Thank you for the comments.

And, um, you know, I'm just
going to continue doing this.

I'm going to continue on this path and
continue as, uh, as much as I can to.

Do my best and have fun along the way.

Travis Bader: Well, such, and
thanks so much for coming back

Sachin Latti: on this.

I thought you'd go anytime.