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With me today is the beautiful Valentin. She is right now in Spain. She travels all over the world, lives in LA, is from Brazil. And, Valentin is I know you from Amsterdam. Really, I don't know.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Many years ago. And, I am intrigued. I'm so excited that you're here as we were just chatting. Valentina is amazing creative artist, storyteller, host, facilitator, I don't know all the things that you are and that's also why I'm gonna ask you to introduce yourself.
Relinde Moors:But I am am intrigued and very excited about everything we're gonna dive into today. So Valentine, please tell us more about you.
Valentine Giraud:Oh, thank you, Relinde It's such a pleasure to be here. Yeah. We've known each other for 14 years. 14 years.
Valentine Giraud:That's when we first met. Can you believe that? It's a long time.
Relinde Moors:It's so fast. I can't believe it. But yeah.
Valentine Giraud:Right? Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:So, yeah, I like to say that I'm a social artist, a creative coach, and a storyteller. I've yeah. I started this work as a facilitator, really, like, working with group processes all those, what, like, 18 years ago or something. And then as life evolved, I realized that artistry and creativity is really at the core of what I do and how I wanna show up in the world always. So I work nowadays with high impact leaders, helping them to bring to the world their boldest ideas, by finding the inner creative confidence, that aligns purpose, intention, and impact, you know, and opportunities, really.
Valentine Giraud:And I believe that once you align all those things, the world just starts spinning around you, in a way that your ideas can become manifest. And, yeah, that's what I do.
Relinde Moors:Gosh. That's so powerful. And that's exactly, I think what we're going to talk about today. Right? How do you do that?
Relinde Moors:Align all those things so that you can manifest that life that is truly aligned with, what is it, your soul's purpose expression. It sounds so big but I think that is really what you do. Tell me more about this whole thing with the Jungian psychology and how that translates into the subconscious bringing it to life through creativity. Because I think we all wanna know how to know what is that thing that I'm meant to do here or who am I really and what is that thing that I fully wanna express. Tell us more about that.
Valentine Giraud:Of course. Well, I do think that we all come to life with, you know, like, something that is our David White has a beautiful phrase and it goes something like humans where human is, like, becoming manifest to others. Becoming making our gifts become manifest to others. And that's what it means to become human. And I feel like that's a journey.
Valentine Giraud:It's not something one finds out right away and goes on doing it. And I think the joy of it is discovering it as we go. And that's where Jungian psychology, for me, really brings a lot of it brings a deeper understanding as to what is the psyche. Right? Like, what is the soul?
Valentine Giraud:And that psyche can speak to us. Soul can speak to us in different ways. And what I've been studying for the last 2 years, I'm doing a master's program in psychology in the psychology of creativity. And what I'm learning is that by using different creative means, one can be way more in tune with those signs of psyche. Right?
Valentine Giraud:So, and there's a lot of things that are, like, living the unconscious as Jung says, and there's things that live in the consciousness. And our journey in life is to become aware of what's the unconscious and make the unconscious conscious. And there's different tools, different pathways. Like, Jung showed a few of them, Dreamwork being one of them, Active Imagination being another one of them, paying attention to synchronicities and paying attention to the things that, you know, kind of, like, help and help us see in the outer world what's in the inner world, it's really been what I I believe he's always been talking about. And I feel like creativity and when I talk about creativity, it's not necessarily becoming a grain painter or a great musician or a singer.
Valentine Giraud:But it's just using those tools, those avenues to tap into, the language of the soul. So the language of the soul is not a linear language. It's not something that, you know, goes from a to b, and it's very clear, and it's there. No. It's symbolic.
Valentine Giraud:It is, emojetic. So what are the ways that one can find to speak that language or to listen to that language? And I think that creativity is one of the ways. You know? And that can be as simple as writing into your journal every day and paying attention to what what is the thing that's repetitive or starting to draw even if you're not, you know, quote, unquote, a great drawer or a painter, but starting to draw and see, okay, what's coming from it.
Valentine Giraud:Or maybe, like, doing collages and seeing what are the images that are calling you. Or even working with your dreams. Like, I've had an amazing experience over the last months working with my dreams, and I've created a little dream group with some of my classmates. And we would meet weekly to talk about our dreams. And just becoming aware of that, like, understanding the different symbols that the soul chooses to to pick and and give it to us while we are asleep.
Valentine Giraud:For me, at least, it unlocked a lot of things. Like, it it helped me make a big change in my life once I started working with my dreams.
Relinde Moors:You wanna share what that was? Like, what was that change that you if you wanna share that?
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. No. Absolutely. So I was I was in one of my classes, it was dream work. And we started working with our dreams.
Valentine Giraud:And we had this, assignment to take notes of our dreams every night. So one night, I had a very strong dream with my sister. And and what what the the dream work goes is like you have a dream, then the next day you wake up, you take note of that dream in the present tense. Then you think, like, okay, what are the images and symbols that are coming from this dream that I can associate with my life? So say, I dreamed of blood, and what does it mean?
Valentine Giraud:I dreamed of sister. What does it mean? Like, what are the rapid associations that I make with that? And then you pick one of the images of your dream and you do what we call amplification, and you amplify it somehow. And that's that's again how creativity can be used.
Valentine Giraud:You can use a creative medium to amplify your dream. So I had one specific image of my dream that I wanted to amplify. And every time I closed my eyes and I thought of what the amplification was, I saw a mandala driven. No? A a mandala
Relinde Moors:Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:That was drawn. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna start drawing a mandala. And I started just, like, very organically drawing this mandala. And it was a very intricate mandala that started coming out of it. Many, many layers.
Valentine Giraud:And I mean, I for me, as I was drawing the mandala, something was unlocking. And then the at the same time, I had this group sessions where I was talking about my dreams and things, you know, becoming and what it came down to is, like, that mandala unlocked an experience that I had had when I was living in the Netherlands all those 10 years ago. And I started diving into that experience. It wasn't so late after that that I had one day I woke up and I had, like, the impulse of starting speaking Dutch again. So I was listening to Dutch musics.
Valentine Giraud:I was listening to Dutch podcasts, like, very out of the blue. I was living in the US. Like, why would
Valentine Giraud:I be having such a craving for Dutch? But it
Valentine Giraud:was almost like something of my Dutch past or, like, something of my, you know, my soul that the time the the years that I've lived in the Netherlands was wanting to speak to me again. Well, eventually, that led me to reconnect to some of my friends in the Netherlands, which led me to decide to go on a trip to the Netherlands for 10 days. And something happened there. Like, something unlocked. Like, it was almost like I was healing an experience that I have had, which referred to the dream.
Valentine Giraud:And the dream referred to because that's the that's the other thing. It's like, what are you gonna do with this dream? And some and and the invitation for some of the psychoanalysts is don't take your dream out of your bedroom and do something about it and say so say, in my case, it was a very extreme case. I I went all the way back to the Netherlands, and I kind of, like, reclaimed the part of my soul that I think I had chosen to to close myself from. You know?
Valentine Giraud:But it could simply be, for example, like a guy who was dreaming that he was eating all this junk food, and he realizes, like, well, all this junk food actually represents the life that I'm leading that's not purposeful. So one day, he just bought a big Big Mac, and he went to his yard, and he dig and he dug a hole, and he's put he put his Big Mac in there, and he said, like, this is it. I don't wanna live this junk life anymore, and I'm burying it. So whatever it is, the idea being, like, our dream is telling us information, and it's giving us signs and kind of, like, cues to where to go next. And if we're starting to pay attention to that, that will speak back to us.
Valentine Giraud:And I think creativity is one of the ways you can choose to dance. So for example, you as a dancer, you know, like a former dancer, dancing could be an option. Like, you wake up in the morning and you dance your dream, and and you start doing that every day and you start seeing, like, what's the pattern? Can I create a dance out of it? You know?
Relinde Moors:Yeah. That is I mean wow. I'm just there's so many things going through my head right now. But one thing is, yeah, this is what we don't learn, I feel like. This is the big thing that we unlearn to work with our subconscious or these symbols.
Relinde Moors:I feel kids have this very innately and then we tell them, sit down. Just learn this and repeat it. What is the right answer? No. You are painting the grass, like, yellow.
Relinde Moors:It should be green, like, whatever. And and and what you're saying is, like, actually learning what I'm hearing is, like, learn to understand your own language of your subconscious mind and how it is speaking to you and that is so powerful. When I think of my dance performances, when I look back, when I was looking at, you know, how do I combine everything that I do together? I had that I had a meditation in Bali and I said, there must be one thing underneath all these different things that I'm doing. What is that?
Relinde Moors:And that one thing was about, like, kind of bringing the formless into form and always that, like and having the formless always speak to the form. That felt like my one thing. And then when I look back at my performances that I had made, all of them were about that actually in some way or another. So when you say that I'm like it was for me also so good to see that. And somebody else might not see that, but it speaks really loudly.
Relinde Moors:And it's so beautiful to to train yourself in that language. How if you like because I know you work with clients in different many ways and forms and you help leaders bring their bold decisions out in the world. How do you do that? Like if somebody is used to practice it, their subconscious mind, like what are the things that you take them
Valentine Giraud:through? I love that question. So I think one of the main well, I've designed the journey for that. It's a 9 week journey, and we go through a whole process. And this process combines, like, a an investigation on one's narrative in one's own trajectory of their lives.
Valentine Giraud:And then from there
Relinde Moors:mean? Your own narrative. What does that mean?
Valentine Giraud:So so we will we will we will dive into the story. I really believe that the story our stories hold so much power. And that there's much that's been, you know, talked about around storytelling. Yeah. And I do believe that for us to do storytelling, first, we need to do a step that comes before that, which is story owning.
Valentine Giraud:Like, we go about living our lives, but we don't own our stories necessarily. Or we have lost we no longer, like, cultivate spaces where we can share our stories. Right?
Relinde Moors:Yes.
Valentine Giraud:Yes. And one can just go about in their lives forgetting that we each hold a story, which is very informative of the decisions that we're making. It's informative of who we are. So one of the first steps in in the creative journey that I do with my clients is to recognize that story. So it's like, okay.
Valentine Giraud:Own your story. Tell me your story. Let's let's review it, and let's look at what's what I like to call the golden thread. Yeah. That is throughout all the events and the decisions that you made, and the people that inspired you and you know?
Valentine Giraud:Because that already gives so much clues as to what do you wanna do next. Yes. Or as to why you wanna go forward. So I have, for example, one of my clients, and I love telling her story because when we were doing the work, she came to me after 7 years having created her company. And when we came to the part of the narrative, I said, okay.
Valentine Giraud:Well, tell me the story, your story, and the story of the company. And she started saying, well, 6 years ago, I quit my job. I used to be working in a corporate job, and I quit it. And I started making this Brazilian pastry and I started selling them and that they became that became big and I decided to start the company. Blah blah blah blah.
Valentine Giraud:And I was like, okay. Well, this sounds great. It's a great story. But this story is outdated. 7 years have passed since you quit that job.
Valentine Giraud:Who are you now? What's the story? What's the present story? Yeah. And it was such a big thing for her.
Valentine Giraud:Like, it's such a simple question. But it changed everything because she's like, well, I'm now a mother of twins. It's been 2 years that I became a mother. Ever since then, I the question that I carry with me is, like, how am I gonna, like, what's the legacy I'm living in this world? What's the world that I'm living behind for my children?
Valentine Giraud:And am I gonna be proud of the world that I helped build for my children to live in? And I was like, there you go. So that's where your start story begins.
Relinde Moors:I'm getting chills when I hear that. Yeah. What does that change for her? Like, that changes a lot for her, right, in the way she shows up.
Valentine Giraud:It changed a lot of things because, like, first, she updated herself. And when she updated herself, time and space got realigned. Mhmm. She wasn't telling a story from the past anymore. She was telling a story from the present.
Valentine Giraud:So that makes in my understanding, it creates an axis around which opportunities can happen. Like, you're you're aligning yourself with what the Greek called the kairos time. You're aligning yourself with the opportune time. And that's when opportunities that are really aligned with your soul's desire or your soul's mission are gonna come up. So in doing that, she was like, okay.
Valentine Giraud:Well, I guess that inspires me to create a company that will leave a legacy behind that I believe in. And that legacy has to do with regenerating the world, regenerating the land from which, you know, we are now taking the the cheese to make the pay the pastry with, like, all the things. So she started looking at her business as a regenerative business and how she could make her company become a regenerative company that would really, like, give back to the land which she was taking, but also expand that that concept into how am I gonna, you know, working socially with the people that I'm choosing. Like, it just it it changed the design of the company, basically. Wow.
Valentine Giraud:And thanks to that, she's become, like, you know, one of the 30 women doing big changes in the agribusiness in Brazil, one of, like, big companies one of the first companies really to start doing regeneration, regenerative practices, and be really being able to call themselves, like, a company that has regenerative practices, which eventually led her to be speaking to the people that she wanted to be speaking, become a sought after speaker. And not only that, last year to do a like, a a round of funding and, investments in a in a market that really wasn't it wasn't happening. Like, no other company was able to raise the amount of funds that she was so much because she aligned with the vision of I wanna leave a world that I'm proud of to my children, you know.
Relinde Moors:Wow. So she got clear on her story. You said you said you aligned time and space so that she becomes her now and then she knows her deeper why? Is that it? Like her deeper desire of what what will do I wanna live in and what do I want to the ripple effect of what I do to be?
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. Yeah. It align her to purpose. For sure. For sure.
Valentine Giraud:And just recently, I've been working with another client. And as we look back in his his story, he had hints of it. He's like, well, you know, when I was little, I was selling these things at school. And then I saw this other opportunity, I started doing that. And then he became an entrepreneur, and he founded a company, and da da da.
Valentine Giraud:And he's now he was transitioning into, like, looking for a job job after having closed his company. But once we did that exercise, he's like, well, it became clear to me that I'm an entrepreneur. I will always be an entrepreneur. That's in my like, this is just the constitution of who I am. I'm like, exactly.
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. So you you can go and look for a job, but you need to make sure that this job gives you autonomy. You're almost like an inter entrepreneur within the company or, you know, organization that you're gonna be working for because, otherwise, you're not gonna be happy. Yeah. You know?
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. So I think it just yeah. So that's that's a big part of the work that I do is that realignment with one's stories and understanding and owning one story. And then being able to, like, craft the story in a way that attracts people to work with you and that will draw people towards the vision that you're holding. Because that's also the thing.
Valentine Giraud:It's like, how do you tell the story in a way that is compelling and interesting and appealing to others.
Relinde Moors:No? Tell us more about that because I know I've seen things on Instagram that you're, like, storytelling, right, in different spaces. And Yeah. How do we tell a story that is compelling? Tell me more about what you discovered in that.
Valentine Giraud:Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Storytelling, it's it's become one of the artistic mediums that I found over the last years and that I've been dedicating to.
Valentine Giraud:I think the first thing is to realize that we all have stories. So, like, you're saying, oh, you've got also so many beautiful stories and, like, unique stories to tell. First of all, like, realizing that we can look at our lives and little things that happen and cut them from beginning, middle, and end and make a story out of it. So you amplify that experience and you make a story out of it.
Valentine Giraud:Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:With what purpose? Right? Like, you look at the story and say, like, what can this teach to at least that's how I look at it. Yeah. Because I've I've understood that one of my like, my life purpose is to communicate noble values to people.
Valentine Giraud:So I'm always gonna tell a story that somehow inspires people about life and humanity and love and trust and confidence. So I'm looking at my, like, everyday interaction saying, well, can this be a story that I can tell from beginning, middle, and end, that is inspiring the others? Others. Yeah. And then you frame it and and then you and then you design it in a way that is, like, you you it's got details.
Valentine Giraud:It has you bringing people into that emojetic of what was happening to you then, what was going on in into your head. It creates that sense of so that it can create that sense of, oh, I've been there. Oh, I know how that feels. Even though it's not the same story, the power of stories that they become archetypal. Right?
Valentine Giraud:So which is another concept that Jung uses is, like, archetypes are those forces, if you want, that exist beyond time. So you can say, oh, the mother is an archetype. The forever child, the Peter Pan, is an archetype. And when we are telling stories, we are it's our story, but we're also, like, disconnecting. Somebody can listen to it and say, oh, it's her story, but I can find my own story within that story.
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. And that, I think, is the power of a good story.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. For me, when I when I started, you know, to work more, like, in this whole online business thing 10 years ago, that was my key to marketing because I always thought marketing is like icky, sleazy, scary stuff and then I thought no, it's storytelling. It's telling the right stories that speak to the right people that recognize themselves in it that say oh my gosh she learned a lesson or she found something out that I also want to do, maybe this person can, you know, this, yeah, program or whatever in in this space then. So I love how you say it. It always has that lesson that resonates with somebody and of course if you make theater performances it's also that.
Relinde Moors:It's like you can tell any story but we recognize ourselves in it. What I was curious, you said one of my life purposes, I'm not sure if you said it that way, is to share knowable values with people.
Valentine Giraud:Mhmm.
Relinde Moors:And I'm actually super curious to zoom in to how you found your things. Like what what are you here to do in the world, and how did you find that?
Valentine Giraud:That's a great question. I feel like it's it's also been about looking back. At what are the moments that I feel most alive. You know? And the and the moments that I feel most alive is when I when something that I did or say felt like an inspiration for another person.
Valentine Giraud:And I've if I look back, I've always been drawn to questions, to listening to people's stories. I've always been a really good person. I've always asked really good questions in the sense that I was curious. And I remember when I was little, like, my grandfather was a very he didn't speak much. But my grand my mother was always surprised how, like, I knew all the stories about his life.
Valentine Giraud:It's like, how do you
Valentine Giraud:know that? I'm like, I don't know. I just ask him questions. You know?
Valentine Giraud:And people would find a way to tell them to me. So I feel like it it has to do with that inspiration. Like, it has to do with sparking that spark, that I believe we all have. And it's it's about seeing seeing the other person as a human, you know, with the same doubts and questions and longings, that I have and, like, sparking that through sometimes just like asking a question. Like, who are you?
Valentine Giraud:Where do you come from? Like, what do you wanna do? You know? One of the stories that I tell in in my storytelling performance is of a time when I was held hostage in in Brazil by, a robber under a gun. And for, like I don't know.
Valentine Giraud:I come I think it was, like, 2 hours to 1 and a half hours. And we were driving and going through different ATMs because he wanted me to get money for him. And as we were doing that, like, this sense of calm and rest and presence really took over me. And I started asking him questions. I was like, so tell me about you.
Valentine Giraud:Like, how old are you? Do you have kids? Do you wanna study? Aren't you
Valentine Giraud:afraid of this profession you chose? One day, maybe you're gonna get hurt and, you know, shot by the policemen. And
Valentine Giraud:and it was because of that that I didn't get myself in trouble. Like, I was able to save myself from a very difficult situation at some point Because I was just able to ask him questions and see him maybe in a way that not many people do, you know? Because How did
Relinde Moors:it end? What what happened?
Valentine Giraud:Well, it it it ended with him saying, can you bring me back to where I picked you up? I'm not gonna do any harm to you because you're one of the good ones. And as he was walking out of my car, he said, thank you. You you really made me rethink my life. I don't I don't wanna be doing this anymore.
Valentine Giraud:I wanna change my life. I wanna
Valentine Giraud:see my child grow up. And thank you. And and I do think that these are the things that we forget to to tell. You know? We we forget to tell each other of, like, oh, and this is how also we can deal with a difficult situation.
Valentine Giraud:You know, it it is through empathy and love and appreciation even in the hardest times. And I think that's one of the things that I I'm able to do is to see through the, you know, the confusion and the yeah. And speak to that. And I think that's that's the thing. It's, like, believing that there is that goodness and speaking to that goodness.
Valentine Giraud:And I still I think it ultimately, it's the same thing that I do with the leaders that I work with. It's like, I'm gonna speak not to your fear, not to your doubt or to your limiting beliefs, but I'm gonna speak to that thing that is shining and it's in there, you know, And hopefully, find ways to teach or give you, tools and ways to access that on your own.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That is incredibly powerful. And and really, like, even 14 years ago when we met in this beautiful co working space in Amsterdam, like, that's what you do.
Relinde Moors:I think even when you are in the space, it's just that, like, I'm just seeing that something bright lights in you that's just so disarming and for people, like, so opening and so awakening for what what you really are. And thank you for sharing this story because that's incredibly powerful, that you even could do that with somebody who is in a very anxious state, who is, like, robbing you. So they're gonna be super tense and anxious. And if you even get them to that, like, wow. I can only imagine the impacts that you make on so many people's lives with this and with all the people that you get to work with and tell your stories to.
Relinde Moors:I could, like, continue talking to you for a long time but one of the almost last question or the ultimate the last question I wanna ask is somebody listening to this right now, they're like, oh wow, creativity to start finding my story or to start finding the messages of my dreams or what is something that a couple of things that we could do to try, to just start with that on our own?
Valentine Giraud:Mhmm. That's a great question. You know, I personally really love, collages. I think that collages are an easy way in where, you know, you can have, like, a bunch of magazines and just let yourself be drawn to different images and rip off the page and take all those images and put them and start puzzling them together, you know, overlapping them and, like, creating a new image out of that overlap and kind of allow for that to say something to you. It's almost like if that new image that got created could say something, what would it be telling you?
Valentine Giraud:And take note of that. I think that's that's a simple way of starting to become acquainted with that language of the soul. Because the soul, as I said before, the soul speaks in in symbols and in images, and it will not give you, like, a like, this is this is what it is. Like, it will not tell you all of it. But you can start piecing together and say, if you do one day a collage and then you do another day and and you realize, oh, oh, wow.
Valentine Giraud:I see there's always forest showing up. Like, am I surrounding myself with trees? Is it is it a place where I like being? You know? Like, can I be more in contact with forests?
Valentine Giraud:Should I go more on long walks? Is this what my soul is craving for? Or say, the ocean. You know? Okay.
Valentine Giraud:Well, then it seems like, you know, I'm I'm really needing the medicine of the ocean. And in saying that, I realized, like, for me, a very important piece is the elements of nature. It's like paying attention. Because that's the other thing that Jung talked about is synchronicity, that the external world is kind of, like, reflecting the inner world. And I think there's also something about us, you know, taking our faces off the screen and just paying attention to what's happening around you.
Valentine Giraud:Like, oh, I just you know, I was thinking about that, and then somebody just mentioned something exactly along the lines of what I was thinking. Like, that this is the kind of synchronicities that I feel can go by and we don't pay attention to. But if we start training ourselves to it, life just gains a new meaning. It gains more magic even, you know.
Relinde Moors:It does. It has so many more layers. Paying attention. I I all of a sudden got this image a friend of mine in Bali, she's like an incredible painter but just, you know, she started painting and she was amazing at it and one time I walked into her house in Bali, that she had back then and I looked at the painting and I'm like, oh, did you paint the view from this window? And she's like, no.
Relinde Moors:I I made that painting, I don't know, 10 years ago when I was living in Milan. I was like, you painted your view? And this is these moments. I remember that we both she was like, oh my gosh. I did.
Relinde Moors:Indeed. I I painted this view 10 years ago and and I'm just, like, just to be aware of these things indeed makes life so much more magical, so much more meaningful. I'm super inspired by everything that you said. Even the thought came to my mind was like because I like doing my collages or things like that and but I haven't done it for a long time and there's definitely this voice that's like, oh, but I don't have time for that by now. That's kind of a waste of time.
Relinde Moors:I need to do all this more like to do linear kind of tasks things and what you've installed in me and I think also that might resonate with people listening to this is that it's actually time so well spent because it's going to help you get clear on what you really meant to do so much, quicker and more
Valentine Giraud:And sometimes it's not even future oriented. It's just really, like, it's a way of getting a pulse of what's happening inside of yourself.
Relinde Moors:Right now.
Valentine Giraud:In that very now. You know? And I think that already is a gift because we can be so disconnected. We're like doing doing doing and we're externally faced. And we forget to say, like, what's happening inward?
Valentine Giraud:Yeah. And am I paying attention to that inner world? You know? Because that inner world is so rich and can give us just the next step, just about the next step, not the 10 steps ahead, not the 10 years, 5 year plan, but just the next step. Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:Which can change everything. Right? Like, your life can change step by step. So Yeah. Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:That would be my thinking.
Relinde Moors:Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. I have one question that I ask everybody coming through this podcast. It's the Choosing Ease podcast and I ask if you you know, sometimes lives get tough or things don't go the way you want or it gets messy.
Relinde Moors:What is your personal way back to something easeful? To ease. How do you do it?
Valentine Giraud:Movement. To me, it's like from the my small of, like, I'm gonna I'm gonna put in music and I'm gonna dance and just, like, get back into my body and to movement, or I'm gonna, you know, go driving. Like, that's one of
Valentine Giraud:the ways that I find ease is, like, to drive long stretches.
Relinde Moors:But it's also movement. Right? It's like, I'm not here in this place. I'm actually moving. Yeah.
Relinde Moors:Yeah.
Valentine Giraud:I'm moving. Exactly. Yeah. Or going traveling. Like, for me, a lot
Valentine Giraud:of finding ease comes through movement because I I also believe, like, you know, if you move things, things will show up.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.
Relinde Moors:For anybody listening to this, if they wanna find you, where can we find you? Where do
Valentine Giraud:you want us to go? Yes. So it's Valentine Giraud, g I r a u d. Yeah.
Relinde Moors:Great. And we'll make sure to link that as well. I would say go to Valentin's Instagram if you are interested in anything that she just said. Send her a message. Tell her that you listened to this podcast.
Relinde Moors:She's absolutely brilliant and amazing, so I can't recommend that enough. Thank you, Valentin, so much for this conversation. Really inspiring. I'm excited to share it soon and, we will see each other soon in Amsterdam.
Valentine Giraud:Thank you so much, Helinda. It's been inspiring for me too.
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