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Welcome to Springs and Things, the podcast where two close friends spill the tea on all things Colorado Springs! From culture and community to hidden gems and neighborhood lore, we’ve got it covered. Join us as we sip our coffee (or maybe something stronger) and dive into the stories and secrets that make this city so unique. Whether you're a local or just passing through, our fun, light-hearted, and always entertaining take on the quirks, hot topics, and insider tips will keep you coming back for more. Discover what’s really happening in the Springs—beyond the mountains and parks!
This week on Springs and Things, we're taking you behind the scenes of the newly renovated Colorado Springs Airport. We toured the stunning updated concourse, tried the cashier less grab and go convenience store, which was wild, and we learned you can stroll the terminal with a drink in hand. And that is just the beginning. Aidan, Ryan, and bug gang from the airport spill everything. The before and after of the massive renovation, how you update an airport without shutting it down, the hidden upgrades you'll never notice but will absolutely benefit from, and why booking your holiday flights right now matters more than ever.
Carly Ries:Plus, we talk military homecomings, a baggage claim flash mob proposal, and a love actually moment that got us a little teary. And this episode is brought to you by the COS Airport as well as Vanguard Aesthetics. We love these partners so so much, and you'll hear why during the episode. Hey, everyone. I'm Carly.
Carly Ries:And I'm Lauren. We're two Colorado Springs locals who love uncovering everything that makes the city special.
Lauren Ferrara:If you're the kind of person who wants to know where to go, what's happening, and the stories behind it all, then you're in the right place. Welcome to Springs of Things, your insider's path to hidden gems, local flavor, and unexpected moments that make the spring one of a kind. From secret spots and can't miss events to arts, eats, and those you've gotta hear about at Locals Stories.
Carly Ries:We've got you covered.
Lauren Ferrara:So grab your coffee, settle in, and get ready to fall a little more in love with Colorado Springs.
Carly Ries:Let's dive in to Springs and Things.
Lauren Ferrara:Okay, Carly. So I literally do a happy dance, like, every time it works out that I can fly out of Colorado Springs because this is the best airport. I've, I still remember flying in. I would... I moved here in 2013, and I still remember flying in and being like, oh my gosh.
Lauren Ferrara:This is, like, the most perfect airport. And then flying out, like, literally getting to the airport, like, as my flight was boarding, walking through security takes, like, two minutes at most, and it just delights me still when I get to fly fly out of the Springs Airport.
Carly Ries:Well, it's funny because I... As you know, I'm originally... Almost originally from here. Almost a native. But...
Carly Ries:This is the airport I flew out of as a kid. And, like, I remember thinking even when I was younger, like, why aren't all airports like this? And here's what's funny. I was like, the views are so great. The proximity is so close to everything.
Carly Ries:And now it's like, oh my god. This airport is insane now from all the renovation.
Lauren Ferrara:So the only thing that talks about it is... Wait for it. Is that when I go to other airports, like, I treat it like at the Colorado Springs Airport, and I have missed flights because I'm like, oh, I'm so used to being spoiled here.
Carly Ries:Oh my gosh. I was so nervous when you said that because I was like, Lauren, Aiden is right next to us. Don't say anything bad about the airport. What is wrong with you? No.
Lauren Ferrara:And... Okay. So a lot of the places I just happen to fly, Orange County, Houston, San Antonio, like, the place that, like, direct flight from here takes, you know, fifteen minutes to get to the airport, ten minutes to get to your flight, and now there's, like, reasons to get here early because it's really awesome now that renovations are done. Well, I'm so excited to talk to Aiden because, this place looks amazing. She just took us on a tour of all the new trade...
Lauren Ferrara:Changes here at the Colorado Springs Airport. So travel easy is the airport's tagline. What does that feel like from pulling into the parking lot to sitting at the gate? Kind of walk us through it.
Aidan Ryan:Yes. Absolutely. And thank you so much for having me. This is so much So, yes, travel easy is our tagline because everyone... Whenever I talk to anybody about the airport, they're...
Aidan Ryan:All they say is it's so easy. It's so easy. And when do you ever hear about that with an airport? But what travel easy really means is your trip starts with a little less stress. For many people in Colorado Springs, we're about twenty to forty minutes from home depending on where you live and a little bit of traffic.
Aidan Ryan:Even with a little traffic, you're still not that far away. You pull into a parking lot. You are close to the terminal when it's nice, you know, the three hundred days of Colorado sunshine. You can walk from the long term parking lot or grab a shuttle or short term parking, and we also have a parking membership, which is even more awesome. And check-in, get through security, and like you guys said, it was, like, two minutes.
Aidan Ryan:And then you're having a beer. You're at your gate. So you can just relax. You can do a little dining or shopping ahead of time. And so it's super manageable.
Aidan Ryan:So we build that experience around, like, five things. Easy, friendly, clean, convenient, and local. It's the friendliest place I've ever been to an airport, and it's the cleanest. Even our bathrooms, like, I even use our bathrooms, and I refuse to use public bathrooms. So I...
Aidan Ryan:Like, it's so clean. And the local mat... And local matters. When you fly CUS, you support jobs, businesses, and the demands that help us make the case for more air service. So everyone says, well, I might have...
Aidan Ryan:Like, we didn't have a nonstop flight. We should fly out of Denver. But that's how we get nonstop flights. So by choosing COS, you are consistently proving a case for the airlines to get more nonstop flights from here. So that...
Aidan Ryan:It strengthens our our ability to invest in the airport and our community. So... And with all of that, like, that's why we received the Community Choice Award for best business air travel support as SoCo's twenty twenty six best in business awards, and we're also nominated for USA Today's 10 best Readers' Choice Award for best small airport. So we know it's awesome, and we're telling everyone else how awesome we are.
Lauren Ferrara:I love it when people ask me. Like... Yeah. I rave about it whenever people ask, like, how how how far in advance do I need to get to the airport? I'm like, you just kinda roll up when your flight's sporting, and you'll be fine.
Carly Ries:Okay. So, Aiden, I wasn't necessarily gonna bring this up, but you you did say the d word. You said Denver. So I wanna know a lot of locals still drive to Denver... To to DIA, which isn't even Denver.
Carly Ries:It's Kansas.
Lauren Ferrara:Oh my god. Yeah. I'm like, it's so far from Denver.
Carly Ries:So far. Ugh. But some people just do it on autopilot, which, I mean, from our standpoint, like, that's just silly. But you you talked about, like, supporting this airport. What's your pitch for flying home from home instead?
Aidan Ryan:So my pitch is simple, especially when you're coming home. Because when you're home, you're home. After a long trip, there's something pretty great about landing in Colorado Springs, seeing Pikes Peak, and knowing that you are just a short drive to your own front door. And there is nothing better, whether it's after a long vacation, an adventure, a girl's trip, or a business trip. Like, you...
Aidan Ryan:When you're home, you're home. And I always... Like, people always give me the pitch as to why they should fly out of Denver versus COS or the non stops or connection, but I always encourage people to compare the whole trip. So when you look at airfare, gas, parking, your time, like, I know how important my time is. If I have to leave five hours in advance to deal with traffic, getting there, the gates, check-in, security, all that in Denver, that's a half a day.
Aidan Ryan:So that's super important. And the drive home, like, after a long trip, no one wants to drive that hour and a half, two hours, or look for your car in
Carly Ries:a parking lot because that could take two hours.
Lauren Ferrara:Yeah. I... There... I think the last two times I flew out of Denver or Kansas, my... I got burned.
Carly Ries:Okay. So before we get into the rest of the questions, I just... Feeling close to home, feeling homey. Like, I wanna talk about a little bit what we just experienced walking through because you can grab a drink and walk around the airport with your drink. We were talking about, like, how we joking, like, we'd go get it and get your stuffs in.
Carly Ries:You can't bring the drink on the plane, but you can walk around the airport with it. They had those Amazon grab and go things from there. I mean
Lauren Ferrara:Which I've never, like, use them in real life, and we just tried it out. Yeah. Like, you felt like you were stealing.
Carly Ries:I did. I was like, is somebody watching me to make sure that I'm legit? Like... And I'm actually doing this. It took me, what, a minute to get my pro...
Carly Ries:I got a protein bar because I wanted to, like, look cool, but I probably usually get, like, Doritos.
Lauren Ferrara:And then... Oh, and you know what I loved from our tour? This is, like, such a tiny minor thing, but, like, I work on the go all the time. There are outlets everywhere. Like like, basically, every seat that you'd be sitting at, you can just, like, plug in
Aidan Ryan:your computer and stuff, so that's handy.
Carly Ries:I was just so amazed by the upgrades. We're gonna do a reel on our Instagram, and you guys will actually visualize the upgrades. And we're gonna talk to... People think that we're having girl talk right now, but we are going to talk to Bud as well. He's gonna go into the before and afters of everything.
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Carly Ries:We have a question for you. We wanna know the before and after. What did the concourse look like when everything started, and what's the change you're proudest at?
Bud Geng:So the before and after. When this project started, the concourse felt tired, like a space that had served its purpose for years, but had slowly fallen behind the pace of modern travel. The lighting was flat. Sight lines were cluttered. Materials were dated, and the atmosphere just didn't match the energy of our growing city.
Bud Geng:It worked, but it didn't inspire. It didn't welcome people with the warmth and clarity we wanted to know for. It just... It felt functional, but not memorable. After...
Bud Geng:So so now the changes, they they hit you the moment you step in, you know, past security. The concourse feels alive. It's brighter. It's warmer. It's with design and intention.
Bud Geng:There's clean lines, modern finishes, thoughtful lighting, clear way finding, and the overall sense that you're walking through a space that respects your time and lifts your mood instead of draining it. But the change I'm proudest of, we truly have transformed the passenger experience, not with one big thing, but through a 100 small deliberate decisions. Materials, seating, layout, the flow, texture, the tones. We built a place where people actually feel the travel easy promise.
Carly Ries:Okay. So just from a logistics standpoint, because I've always enjoyed my experience here. I mean, now it's like, woah. But it... I've always enjoyed it.
Carly Ries:But how do you renovate a working airport without shutting it down? My brain kinda breaks thinking about that. And what was the trickiest part of keeping travelers during... Moving during construction?
Bud Geng:Yeah. My brain still scrambles about that. It's probably one of the challenges... The most challenging things of of my job. But working in an active airport means every single decision has two priorities.
Bud Geng:You keep the traveler safe and you keep the travelers moving. Right? We're a throughput. We're we're typically the the place that people wanna get through quick, but also feel, you know, not stressed while you're doing so. So if either the the safe or the the moving slips, the whole operation suffers.
Bud Geng:So you phase, you sequence, you coordinate your strategic planning efforts, you're building behind temporary walls that appear overnight. Right? You shift walkways by certain amount of feet without confusing anyone. Yeah. You you schedule loud loud working activities when nobody's around.
Bud Geng:You coordinate with TSA and the airlines, concessions, all of your your true stakeholders, anybody that has a footprint in the terminal, so so the work almost is invisible. The trickiest part is maintaining the glow of the airport. Not construction itself, but the pool of passengers who still need to get their gates to their gates with clarity and confidence. When you're rerouting people, even slightly, you risk confusion. That's one of the biggest challenges in working in an airport environment is is to the signage, the wayfinding.
Bud Geng:How do you get from point a to b? And so we, as a team, obsess over wayfinding. I'm saying airport wide to include an agents group. Like, it's a constant battle for us. But you're also, you know, doing doing things...
Bud Geng:You know, you're repainting temporary pavement markings at 3AM. You're you're walking the the the detours or the work that is behind the scenes, and you're you're you're doing that daily. Honestly, dozens of times. Right? Making sure a family stroller bags and and the stress is is...
Bud Geng:Or family stroller... Family bags and strollers can make it through those those routes with with no hesitation. So, yeah, so, I mean, the the craft is really renovating a living, breathing airport without ever breaking its heartbeat.
Lauren Ferrara:Well, you guys nailed it because it's funny. It's been, like, a little surprise every time I come to the airport. Like, I've never... I've hardly even noticed the construction. I've just noticed, like, oh oh, look.
Lauren Ferrara:That's new. Oh, look. That's new. But... So what upgrade do you think travelers will notice first, and which one will they never notice but still benefit from?
Bud Geng:We likely might have a a similar, hopefully, a a parallel statement, but I think it's the light and the warmth. Right? The moment you step in past security, the space feels different. It's brighter. It's modern.
Bud Geng:It's clear and more welcoming. You know, people pick up on it instantly that, you know, the... It's the visual shift. You know, it's clean finishes, intentional lighting, better sight lines from... If you're gonna go, you know, grab a drink at the bar, I can still see my gate from this position.
Bud Geng:If my kids wanna go, you know, and hang out in that corner on their their tablets or play a board game, play cards, I can see them. I can be here. And, also, I know where the gate is so they don't have that stress of missing the flight.
Aidan Ryan:And I completely agree. The congress before is very 1990s. Like, I really don't think it had been upgraded since it was built in 1997. So it had just that drab, low ceilings, low lighting look, and now it's bright. It really enhances just what Colorado's about.
Aidan Ryan:Colorado sunshine, brightness. It has that element of Colorado Springs in it. And those are the things that you really see is everything that's elevated and refreshed. But some of the most meaningful improvements are the ones that you never think about unless you need them. And accessibility was the forefront of this project, and it's about creating a smoother experience for everyone, whether that means hearing an announcement, moving through the concourse, or taking care of a personal need.
Aidan Ryan:Elevate COS includes features such as hearing loops connected to the gate announcements, more accessible restrooms with adult changing rooms, and changing stations with an easier reach. Those details can make a tremendous difference in someone's independence and comfort. The goal is for accessibility to build into the experience. If you are someone who needs a little extra time, support, or one of these features, the whole idea is they never have to ask. They don't need to feel different.
Aidan Ryan:It's part of the experience. So as long as this experience is seamless for all, we've accomplished our goal.
Carly Ries:Alright. So I felt this walking in the airport, but you described the airport as part of the community and not just a transportation hub. So what does that look like day
Aidan Ryan:to day? That can look like so many different things day to day. We are a twenty four seven operation, so that shows up in a variety of ways. It looks like showing up at community events, building local partnerships, and helping connect people with opportunities. So there's things that we do as a business and as an airport.
Aidan Ryan:There's things that we do as the business of the airport, and then there's things that we do as an actual airport. And so it's a little bit two sight... Sighted. We're the welcome gateway to Southern Colorado in the Pikes Peak region. For residents, we connect them with business, family, friends, and adventure.
Aidan Ryan:For visitors, we're often the first of this community. Those visitors stay in our hotels, eat in our restaurants, shop downtown, and attend our events and attractions. Their spending supports local businesses, jobs, and the tax revenues that help reinvest in our destination. So whether you are welcoming a flight, partnering on community sponsorship, or helping an employer connect with customers, the airport's impact extends well beyond the terminal.
Bud Geng:Yeah. I would just add, when an airport is part of its community, it feels personal. Right? So there's familiar faces, small kindnesses, local pride, and a space that reflects the rhythm of the community. So for ours, you know, Colorado Springs, it's not just where you travel through, it's where the community truly connects.
Aidan Ryan:And now tell us about a moment here at
Lauren Ferrara:the airport that felt like uniquely Colorado Springs, something that really could only happen here.
Bud Geng:I love this question. So last year during one of my early morning walks to the concourse, so this is when the terminal modernization was really, like, blowing and going, It was a fall morning. A family of four was still wearing their same fleece layers and they're... You know, they still had the the trail dust on their boots from a hike they had done either that morning or or the day before. And they were headed out on an early flight.
Bud Geng:And as they were walking through the gate, I was walking by me, I was kinda just watching them, the fog outside suddenly lifted and revealed Pikes Peak going through the terminal windows, some of the new windows we had installed. And the the dad pointed out the mountain, and the and the kids just pressed their hands against that new new window and were, like, tracing the ridge as they they had likely explored it the the day before. And what I thought was really interesting is as a GAIN agent, she also noticed what I was watching, and she was like, hey. You know, she she she recognized the gear that they were wearing. And over a few laughs, they started swapping stories about their favorite trails within the area.
Bud Geng:And and so for, you know, a few minutes, it didn't really feel like an airport at all. Right? It just felt like neighbors sharing trail memories in the middle of their travels.
Aidan Ryan:I love that. So there's some, like, basic answers to this where it's like you see the beautiful view, the iconic view of Pikes Peak as soon as you get off the plane. And I love to see it everywhere from my office when working here. I've seen some of the most incredible sunrises and sunsets that after some tough days, the sun setting over Pikes Peak, some of the best I've ever seen. But what really always gets to me is...
Aidan Ryan:And what stays with me is a couple things. One is what I love about walking around here is I always run into my friends. Friends, business partners, community partners. It's like where else at an airport you just see your friends every single day? And the funniest moment is when I've been out in the community, I think I know people, and they have no clue who I am.
Aidan Ryan:But I'm like, hi. Yeah. They flew out of us at some point, and I probably just passed by them thinking that we're now best buds. So that's a little awkward, but the moments that really stay with me are our military homecomings and send offs. We see those almost on, I wouldn't say, a weekly basis, but a handful of times throughout the month.
Aidan Ryan:And you just... Not that I come from a military family, but you... Like, your heart can just sit with them as they are sending their soldier off not knowing... Like, I don't know when they're coming home or where they're going to or if they're doing training or if they're going into a war zone, but you can just see that emotion. You see those emotions at the car.
Aidan Ryan:You see them when they come home, and everyone has their sign. It's the hugs and those kisses outside whether it's military or not, but you just see that every single day. And you also see the connections. The amount of people that have had flowers at the bottom of the escalators are coming up. A number of years ago, I helped a passenger who is...
Aidan Ryan:Or a community member welcome home a passenger and do a flash mob engagement for them in baggage claim. And so these are just moments that we've been able to create because we are a small airport. We're a local airport. We're your hometown airport, and we can make these, like, sometimes wild experiences happen. Irene, I
Carly Ries:don't wanna steal your thunder, but can I can I say what you were just gonna say, what you told all of us to say? Love actually is all around.
Lauren Ferrara:When you were describing that, I was like, Carly and I nodded at each other. We're like, what
Carly Ries:the heck? Love actually. Speaking of love actually, holiday travel is right around the corner, you guys, which is crazy. Why is now the time to book? What do most people often wait too long on?
Aidan Ryan:Oh, holiday travel. I feel like we just got done with summer, and now, like, every time we go to the grocery store, it's pumpkins and holiday decorations, and it is... Now it's all holiday travel talk. So, yes, right now is the best time to look. There's, like, different ways you can get in on deals, and flexibility helps a lot.
Aidan Ryan:Especially with gas prices going up, looking now is the best. We don't know what's gonna happen, and a lot of those prices are being passed down to the customer. And so with that, some of the schedules have reduced, and that's nationwide. That's not just at Colorado Springs. But the earlier you can look, the best deals you can get.
Aidan Ryan:Also, having flexibility helps. Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturdays tend to be the best value. So those are good times to look. And, also, if you go to flycos.com, we have a new little app integration in there that you can go to search flights, and there's deals that pop up. And those aren't just nonstop destinations.
Aidan Ryan:You can put in for multiple destinations. Even Paris is in there, and London round trip was, like, $8.99 from COS. And I'm actually flying out of London or flying to London from COS, and it was less than Denver. And so great opportunity to look. And...
Aidan Ryan:But my biggest advice is to look around the experience you want as well as the price. It's an easier trip from here. You don't have to pay for the gas. You don't have to worry about the parking and the hassle. It's stress free.
Aidan Ryan:You're close to home. When you're home, you're home. And you don't always have to connect through Denver. So even if we don't have a nonstop, there's connection points through Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Chicago, Vegas. I've flown all around the world from COS, and I've never...
Aidan Ryan:And don't have an issue. It's just as... It's easy. And when I'm home, I'm home.
Lauren Ferrara:Okay. So you guys are both pretty avid travelers. What's the one thing that you always have in carry on?
Aidan Ryan:My water bottle and a book.
Bud Geng:It's good. I was a father of two. My wife my wife has taught me very well, regardless if she's with us or not, keeping snacks.
Lauren Ferrara:Yeah.
Bud Geng:And and comfort items. So is it is it a deck of cards? Is it a book? Is it a tablet? I also...
Bud Geng:So my daughter... My youngest daughter is type one diabetic, and so those... It's even more more important. Right? Because the stress levels, the blood sugar goes up and down, and the snacks come in extremely important.
Lauren Ferrara:When my kids were itty bitty, I would bring a box of Band Aids and just let them go wild with, like, taking off all the wrappers and stuff that would entertain them. I have this, like like, blanket shawl that always has to be in my
Aidan Ryan:my. So my friends listening to this will laugh because I hardly ever drink soda ever. Whenever I travel, I always have a Diet Coke with me. No. Regardless.
Aidan Ryan:And it's called my comfort Diet Coke.
Lauren Ferrara:The plane is, like, the one time my kids get... Because we're just like, yeah, you just say yes to a lot of things you wouldn't otherwise, but, yeah, they get sodas on the plane.
Carly Ries:I don't drink tomato juice or ginger ale in real life, and that's the... Those are the only two drinks I get on a plane. This one. Not together. Gross.
Carly Ries:Let me let me clarify.
Aidan Ryan:They do say, though, that tomato juice, because of the altitude and the oxygen in the aircraft, is actually, like, you can has a stronger taste, and people who don't typically like tomato juice always order it on planes.
Lauren Ferrara:I'm just gonna trust you on that because
Carly Ries:tomato I'm a trendsetter, Lauren. I'm a trendsetter. What can I say? Well, you guys, we went rogue in the lightning round for that, but we wanna end the interview with a question we ask all of our guests. And you guys are so tightly intertwined in the community like we were talking about.
Carly Ries:We ask all of our guests, what is your pick of the week? And so we wanna know what are your picks of the week.
Aidan Ryan:My absolute favorite weekend activity is I go hiking in Ute. I go downtown to Josh and John's. I get my one scoop with two flavors of ice cream and a cup, and then I walk around downtown.
Lauren Ferrara:They have a new... They just had their new, like, pumpkin oatmeal flavor come out, so go check it out.
Bud Geng:That's a good one. Interesting enough, lately, I've been loving evenings at Weidner Field. So the switchbacks. Taking my family, catching the catching the game. There's something special about that stadium.
Bud Geng:It's the perfect size. The energy is awesome, and you feel close to the action no matter where you sit. For me, it's one of the best ways to unwind after a long week. Whether you're a big soccer fan or just want a fun community vibe, Switchbacks games are a pretty awesome experience. The crowd's lively, but still family friendly.
Bud Geng:Fun fact here, we are now season ticket holders. Yay. So
Lauren Ferrara:Goo hoo. So you see hockey just started, so we are season ticket holders for the second year, and it's so fun. Like, I wasn't a
Carly Ries:hockey fan, and now I am. There's just so much so much going on in town. You guys know that. You guys represent... The town so so well, and we cannot thank you enough for coming on the show today.
Carly Ries:This has been so fun.
Lauren Ferrara:So fun. And, yeah, check out our Instagram because we have a cool reel of all the all the fun new additions to Colorado Springs Airport.
Carly Ries:And we're biased, but we think we look pretty cool in these shots. And if you're a fan of elf. Yeah. Let's just say I tried to be buddy the elf in one of their shots, so get excited. Well.
Carly Ries:But thank you both for coming on.
Bud Geng:Yeah. Thank you for having us.
Aidan Ryan:Thank you. This has been a blast. Listeners, as always,
Carly Ries:thank you so much for tuning in. Please leave that five star review. It helps us spread the word to other Colorado Springs locals. Share this episode with a friend, especially if they're starting to plan their holiday travel, and subscribe to our show on any podcast platform, including Apple and Spotify. And we'll see you next week on Springs and Things.