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Welcome to Late Boomers, the podcast that is your guide to creating a third act with style, power and impact! Join your hosts, Cathy Worthington and Merry Elkins, as they bring you conversations with successful artists, entrepreneurs and entertainers who have set themselves up for an amazing third act. Everyone has a story, and Cathy and Merry take you along for the ride on each interview, recounting the journey each guest has taken to get where they are, and inspiring you to create a path to success as you look toward your own third act!
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Cathy Worthington:Welcome to Late Boomers, our podcast guide to creating your third act with style, power, and impact. Hi. I'm Kathy Worthington.
Merry Elkins:And I'm Merry Elkins. Join us as we bring you conversations with entrepreneurs, entertainers, and people with vision who are making a difference in the world.
Cathy Worthington:Everyone has a story, and we'll take you along for the ride on each interview, recounting the journey our guests have taken to get where they are, inspiring you to create your own path to success. Let's get started.
Cathy Worthington:Welcome to Late Boomers, the podcast where we explore inspiration, transformation, and the power of new beginnings in the second half of life. I'm Kathy Worthington.
Merry Elkins:And I'm Merry Elkins. On this show, we talk to extraordinary people who are redefining what's possible no matter what their age, their background, or circumstances, and those people who are stepping into their greatest power now.
Cathy Worthington:Today's episode is particularly exciting because we're diving into a topic that affects every one of us. The power we hold within ourselves to shape our lives, not through force, but through awareness, mindset, and personal energy.
Merry Elkins:And as we move into this phase of life, many people are asking, What's next for me? But the truth is the answer doesn't come from the outside. It comes from tapping into our inner purpose and rewriting the old stories that have held us back.
Cathy Worthington:The stories we tell ourselves can either drain our energy or activate our potential. Neuroscience shows us that every thought creates a pathway in the brain. So, if we choose thoughts that empower us, we literally begin to change our future.
Merry Elkins:And that's what today's conversation is about. How to access our personal power, how to elevate our energy, and how to live with intention and authenticity.
Cathy Worthington:Our guest today is someone who has dedicated her life to helping people do just that.
Merry Elkins:Hilda Feinsaad is an international speaker, transformational leadership coach, and the author of Power Up, the Power is Within You. She hosts a powerful podcast where she explores personal mastery, emotional it's intelligence, emotional intelligence, and conscious leadership.
Cathy Worthington:Hilda has worked globally with executives, entrepreneurs, and individuals, helping them reclaim their narratives and activate their personal energy. Her work combines neuroscience, mindset tools, and emotional resilience to guide people toward real and lasting transformation.
Merry Elkins:And we are so thrilled to have her here with us today. Please welcome to late boomers Hilda Fein Saad.
Hilda Fainsod:Thank you very much. So glad to be in the conversation. Expected a lot.
Merry Elkins:It's great to have you. Thank you for being here.
Cathy Worthington:Yeah. Hilda, welcome to Late Boomers Your Power. Your book is titled Power Up, The Power is Within You. What does it truly mean to power up from the inside out?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Just is to focus inside and to find out meaning and who do you want to become. And, of course, when you decide a goal, a challenge, a big a big target, something you want to achieve, there are a lot of steps and tiny activities you need to do, but the way is not straight. It's full of rocks, and you go up and down a lot.
Merry Elkins:So true.
Hilda Fainsod:So that that's because I talk about change, what interfere, and how to remove blockers to achieve results. Mhmm. And, of course, how to sustain in the long run what you already want.
Merry Elkins:That is very true. But people are different, and some people can change quickly and others take forever. And you talk about the narratives we carry, many formed long before we were conscious of them. How do we begin to recognize when a story is running our life, and what's the first step to rewrite it?
Hilda Fainsod:Oh gosh. This is so a big question, and I can say a lot about it. The the best answer is to listen to yourself. And how do you begin something? This is impossible.
Hilda Fainsod:Oh gosh. This is so difficult. No. I I'm not able to do that. Difficult.
Hilda Fainsod:Impossible. I'm not built that way. I never have been so good in it, so I cannot do that.
Merry Elkins:All those stories.
Hilda Fainsod:All those stories, if you begin your story saying no, this is a an alarm. The bell rings, and you need to challenge those stories. Because if not, stories can open the door and can close them too. Mhmm. So
Cathy Worthington:what's the way to combat that?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. The first one is to listen. The other one is to rewrite them. How okay. That was not possible for me in the past, but I did this and that.
Hilda Fainsod:I have those strengths. I developed this and that. I achieved some goals. So now I'm better and stronger. So what can be a good story to achieve that?
Hilda Fainsod:How do I make it possible? What do I need to do? So to question yourself, to write again what wasn't possible to allow them to be possible.
Cathy Worthington:So you tell people to write down these things?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Or to think and to say it say it out loud. I work with top executives and leaders, entrepreneurs, and I allow them to say it out loud.
Merry Elkins:Almost like affirmations?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. And to listen themselves. Okay. You said that it's not possible. If that could be possible, what needs to have?
Merry Elkins:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:What changes in your mind? What possibilities can you create? So I began question to reflect, and when you reflect, you can say you are ready for that. Mhmm.
Cathy Worthington:Well, in your work Well,
Hilda Fainsod:you can support others, of course, to achieve results.
Cathy Worthington:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:And with an aid, you can do that.
Cathy Worthington:Well, in your work, also speak about energy, not just as physical stamina, but as emotional and mental alignment. Oh, yeah. So can you explain how our energy reveals where we are giving away our power?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Every morning, we have this emotional state, and we find ourself when we leave the bed, like, happy and energized and motivated or not. Maybe you have a concern. You didn't sleep well. You don't feel well.
Hilda Fainsod:You you fear something. So every morning, we have a mental state, and we need to recognize that state. And if I energize, perfect. But if not, I can say to myself, okay. This is not the best state, and I need to approach life or a goal or a conversation or a project, a task, an activity, whatever.
Hilda Fainsod:So which is my mental state? The the best one that I need to have. And to think in terms of mindset, what do I need to put to to my mind in order to achieve results today? And for example, I I'm from Mexico. I wrote a book in English, and it was a huge challenge.
Hilda Fainsod:And every time, every day that I sat down, I said to me, what are my three resources? And it was focus, flow, and joy because So I decided to do Yeah. It doesn't help to begin, like, okay. You are not finding the ideas. You are not finding the words.
Hilda Fainsod:Maybe you are going to sound like a Mexican speaking English. That is awful. It is not going to help me. So flow also joy.
Cathy Worthington:I love the focus on joy. I love the focus on joy too. Yeah. Yeah. Because why not find joy because you chose to do it like you said.
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. So Yeah. If I'm going to suffer, it's not the purpose. Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:Yeah. Yeah.
Hilda Fainsod:And sometimes it's difficult and we suffer.
Cathy Worthington:I know. I think it's hard for writers particularly to find joy because they wanna write a novel, but and it seems like torture. But Yeah. Really, it's not torture. It's what they chose to do.
Hilda Fainsod:And this is a state of mind, so you can choose. It's not automatic. You need to work on it. You need to question yourself. You need to put you in the state of joy.
Hilda Fainsod:Okay. Maybe I need to smile.
Merry Elkins:So how
Hilda Fainsod:how would you Okay.
Merry Elkins:Would you recommend one step to finding that joy?
Hilda Fainsod:Gosh. It says that when you smile
Cathy Worthington:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:You say to your mind and your body that everything is okay. Mhmm. Only smiling.
Merry Elkins:And that's crazy. That is
Hilda Fainsod:it sounds pretty easy, but that is information to our mind and body. And that
Cathy Worthington:So true. Yeah. Also, it's information. Cohost here, Mary Elkins, once gave me a stack of cute little cups that I use for my tea every morning, and I choose usually between the joy and the love, but they say joy, love, hope, peace. And when I take the joy, I say I'm gonna look for joy somewhere today.
Cathy Worthington:Then I
Cathy Worthington:think of Mary, but I
Cathy Worthington:also think, you know, I have a nice cup of tea. And I and I think of like the joy, it says joy on the cup. So it's like it reminds me. Yeah. So I think any little reminder like that can help us.
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Sure. Sure.
Merry Elkins:Yeah. That's wonderful, I've never told need you
Hilda Fainsod:to be open. Yeah.
Cathy Worthington:I do it every day.
Merry Elkins:I love that. I should have bought some for myself.
Cathy Worthington:Well, maybe we can find them again.
Merry Elkins:Oh, I maybe. Or they
Cathy Worthington:maybe I had to buy a new set one time just to get the missing one. So
Merry Elkins:So he'll
Hilda Fainsod:I have
Cathy Worthington:a couple of them I could give you.
Merry Elkins:Broken ones.
Cathy Worthington:No. No. I didn't say the broken ones.
Merry Elkins:Oh, okay. Thank you.
Cathy Worthington:Extra ones.
Merry Elkins:Hilda, many of our listeners are in a stage of reinvention. Would you say to someone who feels the desire to change but is still held back by that fear or uncertainty?
Hilda Fainsod:Okay. Everyone, everyone, no exceptions in life. Mhmm. When you want something, it's different, bigger, stronger, higher than you did before. At least different.
Hilda Fainsod:So it implies a lot. Yeah. So there is a part in our brain that looks for survival.
Merry Elkins:Right.
Hilda Fainsod:And this is the one that has a judge inside that says, don't do it. What's the need? Mhmm. You don't need to do that. It's okay the way you are.
Hilda Fainsod:Don't change. It takes a lot. So there's something that prevent us from changing, And we don't need to listen that voice because if we listen at those those voices and messages that don't say the truth, they are only preventing from change. We are not going to do anything. So we need to listen to the voice that we have another one in our head that is our thriving brain.
Hilda Fainsod:And that one will allow us to move no matter if we fear. We we fear. We don't know if we can accomplish something different, But we allow ourself to learn and practice and go step by step with tiny movements that will take us to the place we want to.
Merry Elkins:Did you go through that process yourself?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Every day. Every day because I'm ambitious, and I and I high performer, and I love challenges, and I want to change something, and I want to create a book, a product, something. And Mhmm. Gosh.
Hilda Fainsod:It's so difficult because this is voice in our head, and I fear not not to know how, and I don't have the capabilities that I need. And, for example, I'm creating now digital product. And it's so difficult because I don't understand anything. I just want and follow some rules and a and a guide, and I'm not making it for the moment. Not yet.
Hilda Fainsod:And it's so difficult because I don't know a lot. And I feel fear, and sometimes I feel shame, and I feel frustration. And I love to move fast, and this is step by step. And sometimes you go behind and you begin again. So every day, I yeah.
Hilda Fainsod:Hear It's a challenge, and there's a fear there. So it is, of course.
Cathy Worthington:Well, tell us about the leaders on the executives that you've coached from around the world. What are the biggest mindset differences you see between people who step into their power and the ones that stay stuck?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Gosh. I I love the ones. I love the ambitious high performers, and I love the ones that step into their talents and possibilities. I love them because they go and go and go.
Hilda Fainsod:I feel like I need to push. It's like like a sensation. I need to push people when they don't move. And I do a lot to create awareness, to create possibilities, to allow them with examples of other executive, to share my own experience, to challenge them, to support them, to say, I have you. I have your back.
Hilda Fainsod:And let's take a small, tiny, tiny, tiny step, but a small one Mhmm. And take it. And you need to move from here to here. It's not to there, to here, and I'm here with you. So they begin very small, and when they feel more secure and safe and confident, they can walk better.
Hilda Fainsod:They
Cathy Worthington:trust basically, the difference, the mindset difference between those who step into their power and stay and the ones that stay stuck are are is the coaching. It's like you helping them. It's like somebody needs to help them.
Cathy Worthington:Right?
Cathy Worthington:And Is that the biggest difference?
Hilda Fainsod:Something that we know. Believe also that my best my personal best times of accomplishment is because I do have also a coach or I have a mentor or I have an accountability partner or I have the three of them, and it's the best way to support you. Mhmm. Because sometimes it's disappointed, and sometimes life gets in the way, and you're gonna accomplish, and you are tired and sick of it. So you want to stop.
Hilda Fainsod:And there is someone that sees that
Cathy Worthington:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:At and and help you to overcome those those fears.
Cathy Worthington:Right.
Hilda Fainsod:And we have changed fatigue. We try a lot. Mhmm. And we not accomplish everything.
Merry Elkins:I would guess that that means that everybody needs somebody to back them no matter what.
Hilda Fainsod:Oh, yeah.
Merry Elkins:Because people have so many challenges in life, and a lot of people ask things of people, especially those in leadership positions. And how do they do they keep from being depleted? Is it having a coach that has their back?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. And a accountability partner too. Maybe I want to begin to be fit and to eat better. So it's better to have somebody to share to share with you, to create with you, to be co responsible, to support you, and you will support that person. When I began to do to work out, I didn't exercise in my life for four years.
Hilda Fainsod:So I began with that, and I hate it. I only knew it was good for my health, but I hate it. And I had an accountability partner. So every morning, I opened my eyes, and I said, I don't want to go. Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:And it was my accountability partner at the gym waiting for me. So I went. Yeah. Didn't walk, but went. Yeah.
Hilda Fainsod:And that happens with everything in life.
Merry Elkins:That's that's a really good point. You you you don't wanna step into that fear, but you push. Right?
Hilda Fainsod:Yep. And in that discomfort, and that way, that moment in life, it was discomfort because I hate it. So for me, it was sacrifice and waking up and go to the gym when I didn't want and feel and do some exercise and routine, and I didn't have physical condition. So I even cannot breathe properly. Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:And it was a tough time. Very discomfort.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm. Well, let's talk about emotions as information. How can we use those emotions you've been talking about strategically rather than being ruled by them?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. I like the example of an oven, and there's a flame, and you put your hand, and you feel the flame. There's heat. So you don't put your hand and begin to reflect the, oh gosh. It's going to burn my hand or it's not.
Hilda Fainsod:No. You feel the heat and you move your hand, but the heat will tell you what's going on with you. So we can tap our emotions and understand if I'm concerned, sad, really mad about something, disappointed, or happy, blessed, fulfilled. So we touch a little bit. We allow ourselves to understand my my state and to work with my state for a moment and to move I move my hand Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:From that flame. Because if you are, like, in a moment of a victim that life is so hard, I cannot do that. Again, it happened to me as always, blah blah blah. So if you stay with your hand, you are going to burn. And this is not the best state to be there.
Hilda Fainsod:So, okay, what makes me feel like this? Mhmm. Okay. I see. What can I do this for her
Merry Elkins:to do? It's great.
Cathy Worthington:I like that. So if if you And you mentioned that leadership begins with self leadership. Oh, yeah. Of give us a practical example of how someone can begin leading themselves in their daily life starting today?
Hilda Fainsod:Oh, yeah. I love it. To raise the voice in a meeting. Oh. You are in a meeting and you have a great idea or you have a comment or you have a point of view and you don't say anything, what is that?
Cathy Worthington:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:You need to have a presence and you need to have a voice. And that voice is the best to And
Cathy Worthington:that must happen a lot
Hilda Fainsod:with women.
Merry Elkins:Allow I was about to say that.
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Yeah. Allow to be a leader also in the room. Mhmm. Yeah.
Merry Elkins:Women do have a problem with that at times because when they're sitting there, especially when you're surrounded by men, they may not speak as loud, and then a man will pick up the idea and say it, and they become the one who's praised. It has been an issue, not so much anymore. Women are taking their power.
Cathy Worthington:But
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. And also, you need to understand that we are so wired in a different way. Men and women, but all human being, we we are so differently wired that we need something to say. We really need. Mhmm.
Merry Elkins:Yeah. That's true. Can you give us an example of something that occurred in business where you taught someone to take their power?
Hilda Fainsod:Oh, yeah. I do I do have mastermind groups, and sometimes I have the director and the manager. And the style of a leader allows the others to be open and to share and to reflect and to place a a point of view or the style can block them. So I talk a lot with managers that they don't feel comfortable because they think the boss is not allowing them to speak.
Cathy Worthington:Oh,
Hilda Fainsod:yeah. And your talent and your point of view and your possibilities, why people needs to miss what you want to say. Maybe it's a very smart idea, so you you need to say that out loud.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm. Mhmm. You hear a lot about being resilient and bouncing back. How is your approach to bouncing back different, and how do you define true resilience? How can we build it in a way that's sustainable rather than bouncing around?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. I I read once that resilience is something that happens when you're a child. That environment teach you to be resilient, to overcome what's happened with the resources that you have in that particular moment. And I do believe in that. So every time you prepare your kids with possibilities and answers and perspective, you allow them to come back from a setback and to be resilient.
Hilda Fainsod:And I do that a lot. I I cry a lot. A lot is one of my expressions. So I cry when I'm happy, and I'm excited, and I concern, and I'm sad, and I cry a lot. So I allow myself to cry and to feel that that disappointment and pressure.
Hilda Fainsod:And after that, I clean up my tears. I breathe, and I said, okay. Next action. Okay. I touch my sadness.
Hilda Fainsod:Next action. I don't stay too much in emotions that will not allow allow allow them allow me to overcome. I don't do that.
Cathy Worthington:Good point. Yeah. The very definition
Hilda Fainsod:of resilience. Coaching, we we talk about no resources, to be in a place of no resources, and to be in a place full of resources and possibilities. And no resources is that. To cry and to be there and to feel like a victim of the circumstances and that is unfair and and to stay there is a place of no resources. I can cry and complain, and nothing will happen there.
Hilda Fainsod:So I need to move to a different place.
Merry Elkins:You need to reach out.
Hilda Fainsod:Do that.
Merry Elkins:Reach out
Hilda Fainsod:to Yeah. Do that. Yeah. And I do that with my clients. Okay.
Hilda Fainsod:Let's complain for a moment. Yeah. You complained already? Okay. You are mad already?
Hilda Fainsod:Okay. How to move from there? Because this is not the place you want to be.
Cathy Worthington:And along that same line, teach that words are powerful activators. Oh, yeah. So can you share some language shifts that listeners can implement immediately to change their internal dialogue?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. And I love it. And my clients love that part. Morning, I was in a broad podcast, and the other person said a word that that I love. That is let's explore.
Hilda Fainsod:And explore is like, oh gosh. It feels light and free and creative and full of possibilities. So it's not a final decision that it sounds sort of. So let's play with the idea.
Cathy Worthington:Only explore.
Hilda Fainsod:So that is a way I use language that change my inner state and my possibilities.
Cathy Worthington:That's a good word.
Merry Elkins:Absolutely. Give us some more give us some more words that people might use.
Hilda Fainsod:Possibilities. Okay. You said no. No. No.
Hilda Fainsod:K. Let's play with possibilities. What can be possible? And that is also a powerful word. Possible.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Possible. Because we became like, okay. This is not possible here.
Cathy Worthington:And, yeah, this culture is great. Is possible in some way.
Merry Elkins:Mhmm.
Hilda Fainsod:In some way.
Cathy Worthington:Mhmm. So Or to
Hilda Fainsod:make it possible Yeah. What we need to do, what changes in my mind need to be there.
Merry Elkins:Well, before we close this segment, we've been discussing this. What is the one thing you hope every listener takes away about their own power and the possibility of changing or working in this new chapter of life?
Hilda Fainsod:Okay. I love that question. Thank you, Mary. I believe in stages. You don't want the same when you are in your twenties or thirties than in your forties, fifties, sixties, and plus.
Hilda Fainsod:Mhmm. And we change, and we need to allow ourself to create new changes and possibilities and motivations because we are in a different stage. For example, I do have two two kids, and they are grown ups, and they had married, and they have their own lives. And it's amazing to share with them, but, actually, they are not home anymore. So that allowed me to fly this Friday to to Spain, to Madrid because my daughter lives there and to stay there and work from there three months.
Hilda Fainsod:Oh. Because it's my time with her. Mhmm. Why can I do that? Because my son is also married and is not anymore at home.
Hilda Fainsod:So you can redefine and reinvent and create in a different stage, a different life. And I have the opposite, and this is a great example. One of my clients, a woman, an executive, a smart lady, She had a project in in America, in Latin America, in a country, and I saw her for coaching the next Monday. And she said, I'm so tired. I just came on Friday night after finishing the project, and it was so hard, so tough.
Hilda Fainsod:But finally, finally and I said, gosh. That sounds so good. And I'm wondering if you stood there because it was chilly, and maybe you have a different air, a different climate, a different people, restaurants, food, wine, etcetera. And she said, no. I didn't.
Hilda Fainsod:And I said, why? It was weekend. Because I always finish a project, and I come back home, you know, for the kids. And I said, yeah. I know.
Hilda Fainsod:A woman, more or less, as my age. And I said, okay. Tell me when you began that practice, how old were your kid? Well, newborns, so two and four. And now how old are they?
Hilda Fainsod:And she said 24 and 26, and I said, gosh.
Cathy Worthington:It's a different life.
Hilda Fainsod:They aged they aged, and she didn't Yeah. Take chances, different chances in life. And at different stages, we can decide in a different way. And this is an invitation to think Yeah. What do you want and you deserve and you will accomplish in this stage of life?
Hilda Fainsod:I
Cathy Worthington:like that advice. It's really good. Do too. Like, consider careful. What has changed?
Cathy Worthington:I mean, things change around you even when you don't change. Mhmm. And you have to recognize that. That's great. Kathy.
Cathy Worthington:Kilda, thank you for sharing your wisdom and practical tools with us. This conversation has been a powerful reminder that we don't have to wait for external circumstances to change in order to transform our lives. We can begin within.
Merry Elkins:Oh, That is so true. And for our listeners, if you feel something stirring inside you after hearing thisan idea, a possibility, a challenge That's your inner power waking up. Follow it. Explore it. And that's where your next chapter begins.
Cathy Worthington:We encourage you to check out Hilda's work, her book Power Up, and her podcast where she continues these conversations on personal mastery and conscious leadership. And, Hilda, what's the name of your podcast? How do you think
Hilda Fainsod:about that? My podcast is in Spanish. Momentum is going to be alive in the next two weeks, and I did have another one, a leadership called Podcast Futurum. So they are in Spanish, and all that I have in English are interviews with people.
Cathy Worthington:Yeah. Like on this one. Yeah. That's great.
Merry Elkins:That's great. Yeah. And and what's your website, by the way?
Hilda Fainsod:Yeah. Hildafeinsot.com.
Merry Elkins:Okay. People can join
Hilda Fainsod:in to that. Media is hildafeinsot also. So thank you thank you very much for this conversation. It was astonishing.
Cathy Worthington:You're welcome.
Merry Elkins:For us too.
Cathy Worthington:Thank you. By the way,
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