The Holy Hangout

Kam Hobley went viral on TikTok, gaining 3.3 million followers, but behind the fame was a much deeper story.

In this episode, he shares his testimony from fame to being in a combat zone and how Jesus saved him and why he is on fire for the Lord now.

We dive into what life looked like before finding Christ, and the moment everything changed.

This is part 1 or a 2 part series with Kam on The Holy Hangout Podcast.

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Kam:

Uploaded it and then put my phone on the charger, and then I went downstairs and watched the movie with my family. And then I come back up to my room and the lights were off and then my phone was on. So I was that means I was getting notifications. I picked my phone up and it was going crazy. I gained 3,000,000 followers in a year and a half.

Kam:

So I'm getting all this success and then I get a phone call and they said, hey, our our unit has gotten tasked out on a mission to go overseas for a year. I'm running out the back of the of the helipad. I jump off like some real combat stuff because we had to hurry up and run because we're in a combat zone. From 7PM to 06:00 in the morning, just absolute gunfire back to back to back to back to back. I didn't call on no one else.

Kam:

I called on Jesus Christ and we were saved.

Micaela:

Cam, thank you so much for being on.

Kam:

What's up, Makayla? How you doing?

Micaela:

Good. Good. I'm excited. I start every episode with an intro of how we met. And so we met on Instagram.

Kam:

Yes.

Micaela:

You saw one of the clips, and then we connected over that. But the second piece that I always talk about is the spirit of Christ that I see in the person that I'm interviewing. And for you, dude, it has been, like, when Romans one sixteen talks about, like, for I'm not ashamed of the gospel Mhmm.

Kam:

For is

Micaela:

the power of eternal life for all who believe, you live that out. Like, your life resembles that in such a way that you are not ashamed of the gospel. Like, for example, when we went, with a group and we went out to eat and evangelize Yeah.

Kam:

You

Micaela:

had your bible with you. That was not something that, like, you me typically would think to bring. You know what I mean? But that was the conversation starter that brought us into, I'd say, like, an hour long conversation with some people there.

Kam:

Yeah.

Micaela:

Like, it was so powerful, but you're not ashamed in any way. You're not worried to wear your faith, like, boldly. And, dude, that's exactly what Christ was. Like, he wasn't ashamed of the gospel. He knew the power behind it.

Micaela:

And so I wanted to compliment you on that. I admire it so much, and it's something that I'm trying to grow in myself.

Kam:

Thank you.

Micaela:

Yeah. Absolutely. But we know that you haven't always been like that.

Kam:

I have not. So I have not.

Micaela:

The place I wanted to start was Cam, BC.

Kam:

Mhmm.

Micaela:

Like, before Christ, before you accepted him. I like

Kam:

Cam, BC. Cam, before Christ.

Micaela:

Yeah. Like that. So, like, what did, like, a typical day in the life of Cam look like before Christ?

Kam:

Yeah. So, thank you for that compliment. Like you said, it wasn't always like that. It really started last year. God did a big work in me last year.

Kam:

Before Christ I've been a Christian my whole life, but before taking Christ as a serious disciple, like, because that's what we are supposed to be disciples, meaning a disciplined follower. Before being a disciplined follower, I would say, in the year 02/2020, I blew up on TikTok. You know, we were in COVID, so everyone's inside the house. And I started just, my sisters told me to, Cam, let's, they told me to get on TikTok so we can, like, do some dances. So I started, like, a a use my username was YBK and I just came with a random name because that was the name of the YouTube channel I had.

Kam:

And I just got on there. I wasn't famous or anything, neither on YouTube or TikTok. Just got on there to specifically, do the dances with my sisters because we were locked in the house. And I remember one day, my family and I were my family was having a movie night that night, and I had done a couple TikToks that night of a of a just for fun. There was a guy that I saw.

Kam:

He, was super, super close to and it was just like a trend. It was not trending at all. It had, like, maybe a hundred people that used this audio in this specific, I guess, trend, if you will. It was a guy. He started super, super close to the camera and, like, he made his face look, like, super, super ugly.

Kam:

And then he moved away from the camera and then he smiled. And then, like, I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. But it wasn't it didn't, like, it wasn't popular. So I was like, let me just do something funny. So I did it.

Kam:

I put my face super, super close to the camera, and I backed away. And then I smiled. And then, I was like, oh, that was that was pretty fun. Uploaded it and then put my phone on the charger. And I remember it was like on this wall.

Kam:

I put the phone in charger, put it on the ground by a wall in my bedroom. And I went downstairs and watched the movie with my family. And then I come back up to my room and the lights were off and then my phone was on. So I was that means I was getting notifications. I picked my phone up and it was going crazy.

Kam:

I looked at my phone, the video had, like, reached, like, 50,000, views. And then by the time the next morning, it reached, like, over, like, 500,000. And I had, like, 10,000 followers. And then from that day forward, for a year straight, I just posted every single day. And so the typical day of the life was not reading my Bible.

Kam:

I didn't even own a Bible in 2020. Wow. I did not I did not own a Bible. I was just one of the people that just said I I follow Christ, but didn't mean it. You know, like, a lot of people, especially on with, big platforms, like when they get an award or something like that, they always say for the glory of God, but they don't actually have an actual relationship with him.

Kam:

They just, you know, say it with their mouth. But, you know, the Bible says that so many people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. So like my heart, my lifestyle, my my life, my hidden life behind the camera was was a fraud. So yeah. But yeah, I blew up on TikTok, had millions of followers.

Kam:

I did that for a year. I remember whenever I got the fame, when I got, to a million, I remember the day I got a million. It was in my college dorm, and I was not happy. I was depressed. I it didn't mean anything, but I kept going.

Kam:

I reached, like, 3,000,000 followers on TikTok from 2020 to 02/2021. And, so the typical day of the life was me just posting on social media every single day, giving my giving my I had not anxiety, but, I felt the need to prove myself to people, and I also felt lonely. And I also felt depressed, and I also felt, the need to be accepted by people. And so I would heal those things by posting videos every single day. And that's what I did, because I would post every single day, and it would make me feel good because, you know, look in the comments.

Kam:

Girls are saying you're fine. Girls are saying you you you a handsome young man. So I would get my validation through people I didn't know. And then when, so that became my life for two years, is getting validations from strangers. And, you know, when you don't post, the comments don't come in.

Kam:

So where did my validation come from? It wasn't in Christ. It wasn't in myself. It wasn't for my family. So that's what made me obsessed with posting every day because I was getting that validation from the TikTok stuff.

Kam:

And, I feel like I'm chatting right now. But, yeah, that was just the typical day in the life was posting every single day to get validation, but it wasn't fixing anything.

Micaela:

Yeah. I think that's so good. And I think it's a good reminder too that, like, what we see on social media, like, the stuff you're posting, but then you're you're fighting a battle in the background. Exactly. Nobody probably knows about.

Micaela:

So I think it can be so easy to look at people, on social media and be like, oh, man. I want that. And you think that's the solution. Yeah. But secretly, they might be battling some demons of their own.

Micaela:

They they don't even know. Literally. You know what I mean? So I think that that's such a good reminder, and I appreciate you being open about that too because I think in a lot of our minds, we think if I just get this thing, then I'll be good.

Kam:

Right.

Micaela:

And then you get the thing and you're like, okay. Well, if I just get this thing and it's like Yeah. It talks about the water like, that Jesus has when he's talking about the with the lady at the well. The

Kam:

well. Yeah.

Micaela:

And he was saying, like, I have a water that will make you not thirsty anymore. And it's, like, so true about the difference between, you know, before and after Christ. So I appreciate you being open and honest about that too. Yeah. I know that there was a switch kind of to where you were talking about lukewarm to fully devoted.

Micaela:

Yeah. Was there something specific that happened to make that a thing?

Kam:

Yeah. So like I said, I'm a Christian my whole life. My mom was a pastor, if you will. She was just, like, a a big time leader in my church. My parents were actually marriage counselors in my church.

Kam:

But it was just funny because they were marriage counselors, but their marriage was failing. Mhmm. They were teaching people how to cultivate in a in a healthy marriage, but their marriage wasn't healthy. So that was, you know, like, kind of, identical to what I was going through. You know, smiling on camera, but then in the background, there's issues.

Kam:

You know? Nice. So, yeah. Don't believe everything you see on social media. Because it's it's also just this is off topic, but social media is a is a highlight.

Micaela:

Mhmm.

Kam:

It's a highlight. It's not, you know no one's gonna post the worst moments. They're gonna post the best moments. And yeah. But anyway, I was feel feel led to say that, like, when I was posting too I'm gonna answer the question in a second.

Kam:

But when I was posting too, I just feel led to say this. Bro, I would fake a smile. Like, I would I'd be so depressed, but I would when as soon as the camera turned on, I would smile. But, like, now when I go out and I'm in public and I'm smiling, I'm actually smiling Because I have my validation. My identity comes through Christ.

Micaela:

Mhmm.

Kam:

So even when a bad day is is around me, like, I have that peace, the joy that surpasses all understanding. But I was getting that You know, I I could preach on all the about that, but that that was just something I felt led to say is to not believe what you see on social media. You're stop looking at other people's lives on social media through a screen when you have no idea who they are on the other side. Even people like worshiping and doing all this stuff for Christ, they they're doing they're gonna post the things that look good, that make that that look glorifying. Like, I was watching, I was at my girlfriend's house the other day or yesterday, and I was looking on the the TV, and I was like, bro, like, all these people are worshiping, they're crying, they're pouring their hearts out, but on the on the what's going on outside of the camera?

Kam:

We're all broken, bro. Yeah. So I we gotta stop finding validation or comparison of, like, oh, I need to get like them. No. You need to get, like, who God wants you to be.

Kam:

You need to get fully and find your identity through God wants you to be. Stop stop looking at because I used to really look up to pastor, Philip Mitchell, which is a 2019 pastor. And I would look at him. I'd be like I would compare myself to him because I'm like, look look look at this man. He's, like, so on fire for God.

Kam:

He's crying. He's he's always talking about how much he weeps and all this stuff, and I love him. But it got to the point where it's idolatry. I used to, like, got to the point where I would hate my my own upbringing because he would talk about how he was into drugs and the violence, and then, God met him in the bathroom and brought him out all that. And I was like, I don't have, like, a a quote unquote testimony testimony like that.

Kam:

So it made me question, am I even do I even love Christ as much as him? Mhmm. Because my story isn't as crazy as his. But God God knew my story before I even started it. So my story is my story.

Kam:

His story is his story. Your story is your story. And then, you know, whoever else is listening to this or watching this, your story is your story. Stop finding validation from someone you don't know. Find validation in Christ.

Kam:

And that was bit my biggest issue is I was trying to find my identity through social media. Absolutely not. I found my identity through Christ, and I smile for real now.

Micaela:

Mhmm. But I

Kam:

just wanna say that.

Micaela:

That reminds me of one verse I wanna mention too. There's a verse in, second Corinthians, and it says to compare is to not understand. And it's a reminder of, like, anytime we're comparing, we're not understanding. Like, it is coming from a place of trying to trying to, like you said, trying to become that person or idolizing that person.

Kam:

Mhmm.

Micaela:

And that's without understanding. Like you said, like, when you become more like Christ, you move into the purpose that he's planned exactly for us. Yes. Like you just said earlier, like Yes. He has planned every day that we have before a single one of them has began.

Micaela:

Absolutely. He says he prepares good works for us in advance for us to walk into. Mhmm. Like and your testimony is gonna touch people different than mine touches those people.

Kam:

You know what

Micaela:

I mean? He has people exactly for you to speak to.

Kam:

Come on.

Micaela:

You know? So I think that's such a good reminder because I've heard that so many times where people are like, well, I have a boring testimony. That's like something I've heard a lot of people say.

Kam:

Right.

Micaela:

I'm like, dude, like you. That is not a people think it's almost like a dig. Like, you need, like, the crazier story. But I think that comes from us idolizing certain things about the characteristics or people versus the nature of Christ. You know what I mean?

Micaela:

Yeah. How amazing could it be to to have a testimony where it's like, dude, my parents love the Lord and my life has prospered generations. Like, they ended a generational curse, and we're different because of it. Come on. That's the testimony right there.

Kam:

Come on.

Micaela:

You know what I mean? So I think a lot of people can see it very black and white when God knows what he's doing. I'm telling you. He's the only one with a perfect track record.

Kam:

I'm telling you. Like, if you look at the disciples, a lot of the disciples because, like, one of the things I did, I was in this, discipleship course, and one of the homework assignments was to identify all the 12 disciples and then identify what they were doing before Jesus found them and how they ended up following him. And I think it was Nathaniel. I think in John one and I'm gonna get back to, your question.

Micaela:

Yeah.

Kam:

Yeah. Nathaniel. So Nathaniel's quote, unquote, testimony was, like, his conversion between not following Jesus and then following Jesus. Right? It was so simple.

Kam:

First John verses, 44 through, like, about 50. Jesus is going around gathering, his disciples and he goes into, I believe it was in Galilee, and he goes and finds Philip. And then Philip goes and gets Nathaniel. They're best friends. They were really good friends.

Kam:

And Philip was a fisherman. I think Nathaniel was also a fisherman. So Nathaniel was fishing. And then Christ, basically said, I saw, because Nathaniel was questioning, is he is this even the Messiah? And, Jesus was like, hey, I saw you whenever you were under the fig tree when Philip came to get you.

Kam:

So Nathaniel was like, how did you know that? So, like, it was just something simple as that was like a simple quote unquote testimony of Christ revealing himself to Nathaniel, and and then Nathaniel became one of the chosen 12. He became one of the 12 leaders of the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ. So, like, Nathaniel didn't have a King David testimony. Nathaniel didn't have a Moses testimony, but he became a person that is written in the book of life.

Kam:

Mhmm. So, like, I don't care if pastor Philip or anyone else has these crazy testimonies, don't compare your story to someone else's. You know what I'm saying? Because I believe that you and I are gonna do mighty things for the kingdom, but my story and your story are completely different.

Micaela:

Yeah. You

Kam:

know what I'm saying? But it's all for the same purpose. The Bible says that we're all under the same spirit, but acting in in in our own different ways.

Micaela:

Mhmm.

Kam:

We're all part of the body, but each member of the body has different functions. You know what I'm saying? So I just thought I just felt led to say say that. Yeah. So going back to your question, did you wanna say anything before I do that?

Micaela:

No. I think you summed it up beautifully. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.

Micaela:

So what was, again, the switch then? Yeah.

Kam:

That's true.

Micaela:

Because, like, dude, you're on fire for God. Yes. Clearly. Come on. And you said that it was lukewarm at a period of time.

Micaela:

Yes. So, like, what happened to change that?

Kam:

Dude, by the way, I don't feel good, guys. And, like, talking about God, just, like, like, I'm being so serious. Like Yeah. And the beautiful part about it is, like, my understanding is this. I know a lot about the Bible now because I read it, like, almost every like, not almost.

Kam:

I read it every day. Yeah. But But my understanding is like this, because the bible says that you will never reach the full understanding of God until you're in his glory. Mhmm. Fully in his glory.

Kam:

So those who are searching for a full understanding to make that first step, you'll never gonna you're never gonna get there. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. Like, the 12 disciples, they didn't even know who Jesus fully was until he rose from the dead. They're following someone that they didn't even fully understand or know.

Kam:

Like, Jesus even asked Peter, and Peter gave him the answer and and and Jesus blessed him and said, you're gonna be the leader of my church because he was, like, the closest to understanding who Jesus was. But he didn't even fully understand who Jesus was. Because when, Jesus asked Peter, Peter said, oh, you're you're you're the the you're the Messiah, and Messiah was the chosen one. It didn't mean God in the flesh. It just meant the chosen one who's gonna free us with from what they thought was from Israel I mean, from, the Romans.

Kam:

And then Peter was, like, comparing Jesus to Elijah and Moses. So Peter thought that Jesus was just a strong powerful prophet. He didn't even understand the the fullness of Jesus Christ. So, like, this on fire stuff that you see, I don't even fully understand Christ for real for real. But I've it's an everyday thing and and and that's that's proof and an indication that all these mighty men of God, all these women of God, they don't even fully understand.

Kam:

It's all all the power that they're possessing, all the thing the wisdom that they had, it all comes from God. It doesn't come from their own understanding. Mhmm. And that was the issue with the with the Pharisees is that they were going off their own understanding and not operating in the spirit of God. I operate in the Holy Spirit.

Kam:

I have I have this much knowledge. Mhmm. But this on fire stuff came from it started in, like I said, I was famous on TikTok 2020 to, 2021. I said twenty twenty twenty twenty to 2022 a couple minutes ago, but it was actually twenty to twenty twenty one, I gained 3,000,000 followers in a year and a half. Three million followers in a year and a half.

Kam:

And that first year, I gained a million. And then within a month or two, I gained 2,000,000. And so during this uproar of my quote, unquote fame, like, I'm telling you, I was going everywhere. People would ask and take pictures with me. Like, I was really experiencing a celebrity like lifestyle.

Kam:

Like, I'd be here in the mall here in Texas going to the Galleria and peep girls were stopping me and asking to take pictures. It was it was crazy. So I'm getting all this success, and then I get a phone call because I'm in the army. I'm in the army. I was getting this phone call, and they said, hey, our our unit has gotten tasked out on a mission to go overseas for a year.

Kam:

So this is my first deployment. Right? So I had to drop out of college for two years because it was a two year thing. It was a year overseas and a year of preparation. Right?

Kam:

Because they're not just gonna send you over to war and you don't even know what you're doing. Right? So, I was angry with God because I'm because I'm like, God, you know that I've been desiring to be famous and to have the success at the I'm I'm I mentioned you guys sing, so I was making music. My music was blowing up as well. And during all of that hype, I get tasked on a deployment.

Kam:

So clearly, in my mind is there's no, there's no way I'm gonna be able to continue this this this this road, this path of TikTok overseas. So I get mad at God, and I rebelled. And what I mean by that is the there was a list that they gave us on what we're supposed to pack, and they gave us a bag to pack all those things because the bag matched the list. The list was the perfect or the bag was the perfect size to fit everything on that list. Right?

Kam:

But I rebelled. I was like, god, you're not taking this from me. Hoo. I feel the presence of god. He said, you're not I said I said, you're not taking this from me.

Kam:

And so I packed everything I need to pack and then I forced all my stuff in it. Like, you see all these lights and stuff? I brought lights. I brought equipment. I brought cameras.

Kam:

I brought, I used to do comedy stuff, so I brought props. I brought all these things because I was like, god. Like, literally freak you. I don't care what you're doing. I'm bringing this.

Kam:

So I bring my stuff overseas, and that's when I and, there was one video in particular I posted and it was me in my uniform, my army uniform. And it went I had 1,200,000 followers at the time. I posted it and that was that video, I got 70,000,000 views on that. And God told me to send my stuff home. I rebelled.

Kam:

I posted it that day, and I thought it was God blessing me. So I this is the this is the trick of the enemy. God said, send your stuff home. I rebelled. I posted that day.

Kam:

I woke up the next morning with 70,000,000 views on that video. So I thought, oh, this is God blessing me.

Micaela:

Mhmm.

Kam:

And so I start gaining 2,000,000 followers over that next month. And then God was like, okay. You're still not listening to me. So when we went overseas, we were in Kuwait. Kuwait is in The Middle East, but it's like a neutral ground.

Kam:

It's it's it's it's it's, it's safe. It's like being in Dallas. It's safe. It's neutral. You know what I'm saying?

Kam:

There's no enemy. So we're just chilling on our base in in Kuwait. I rebelled against God. I was getting all this fame. I kept I kept posting, kept posting.

Kam:

I didn't care what God said. God said, okay. Now I see that guy was, like, involved with what's about what I'm about to say. Before, I didn't. I'm in my bed laying down, and my sergeant comes in.

Kam:

He wakes me up. He says, hey. Follow me. So I get up on my bed. I follow him, and we go into this we leave the building I'm in.

Kam:

We go into this new building, and then we walk up to this metal door. And he tells me to take everything out of my pockets, take everything off, and he pats me down, make sure there's no wires. I'm like, what's going on? We he opens this metal door, types in the code, opens this metal door. We walk into the door.

Kam:

There's, like, 10 people in there. And I was, like, the eleventh or twelfth person. And it was a big conference table, military, maps all on the wall of, like, hostile combat areas, Iraq, Syria. At the time, it was really Iraq or it was really highlighted on Iraq and Syria. And there was a big screen on the wall and then American flag, all this stuff, and then there's the the the lieutenant, our lieutenant was in there as well.

Kam:

So he said she says, sit down. And she said, it's so serious. She said, sit down. I sit down. And basically, long story short, I'm in there for an hour.

Kam:

They're briefing us on the combat mission we're about to go on to. So keep in mind, I mentioned we're in Kuwait. It was a neutral area. So my whole unit full of, like, 300 people are all in Kuwait, and they picked me and 11 other people to go to a combat zone for the whole deployment. Wow.

Kam:

So now guys, like, you're not about to record. You're gonna listen to me. You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. So I'm like, okay, God.

Kam:

So then I rebelled again. This is crazy. I'm thinking about this. I stacked up. I knew that I was gonna leave from that day.

Kam:

We're gonna leave in about three days. So for the next three days, I stacked up on videos. I'd save them to my draft so I could, like, post, like, one video at least a week. So I could keep it going. And, long story short, I go over I go over to the combat zone.

Kam:

We fly in. Like, this is some serious stuff. We we're on this, this this helicopter with those two with those two, propellers on top Mhmm. Like some how Call of Duty stuff. It lands like this.

Kam:

I had to grab my bag. I got my other bag. Like, I'm I'm running out the back of the of the helipad. I jump off, like, some real combat stuff because we had to hurry up and run because we're in a combat zone. So we had to run, get off the, the helicopter and run.

Kam:

This is serious. You know what I'm saying? Run. And then, like, it's in a com it looks it looks like a Call of Duty map. Like, it's like bullet holes on all the all the buildings.

Kam:

The buildings are full concrete. There's no windows and anything. And I land in this place and then I run to get to where they where we're gonna be camped up at. So this is not even a base. We're literally we're literally forming a base out of, an abandoned village Wow.

Kam:

Where a war took place before. Like, there's bodies that are blown up on the wall and, like, literally some serious stuff. Blood all on the walls everywhere you go. Man, some serious stuff. So I I stay there.

Kam:

I post my videos, and then they run out. And then the last month the last week that I was there, I get woken up out of my bed. My sergeant wakes me up again out of my bed. Like, the last time he woke me up out of my sleep, I was in my bed. He says, get up.

Kam:

The enemy is coming. Right? So he says, get up. The enemy is coming. And so I I'm like, there's no way this is actually serious.

Kam:

He's like, yeah. Biden, this morning, Biden told because we were stationed with some combat guys. They attacked one of the ISIS bases. So this is ISIS. There are, like, three three or four miles, I forget which direction it was.

Kam:

Let's just say south. Three three or four miles south from where we were stationed at, or camped up at. So So there there was like a I got I think there was a body of water between us and they were camped up over there. And this is ISIS and Iran that paired up together at during this, 02/2021. They were paired up.

Kam:

So, this is in Green Village, Syria. He says, Biden told us to launch rockets to destroy the missiles that they had, prepared to hit us. So we were trying to take out their weaponry before they attacked us. Right? And, am I talking too much?

Micaela:

No. Okay. I got it. I'm involved in this story. Yeah.

Kam:

So, they told us to knock out all their weaponry before they could use it against us. We accidentally killed the leader that was there at the camp.

Micaela:

Oh, no.

Kam:

Right. I say we. It was a part I was a part of the group that did it, but I didn't do it. Right? So now they're retaliating.

Kam:

Right? They're preparing for for a fight. Right? So he says, get up. Biden told us to do this.

Kam:

We messed up. Whatever happened, they're gonna retaliate tonight. He says, we're in black, meaning that means you have to wear all gear all day everywhere you go. If you go to the bathroom, the their bathrooms weren't even attached to the buildings. Like, you had to walk, like, several feet to walk to the bathroom.

Kam:

I had to walk to the bathroom and go number two in a in full combat gear. It's a crazy thing. So we're walking and long story short, all day long, just walking around, make sure we're locking everything up because from our understanding, they're gonna come and ambush us. So we're locking everything up so when they come on the base, it's just a straight fight. They can't get in any of our gear.

Kam:

So, this is the first time I ever in my life took my it's a m four, you you know, gun specialist.

Micaela:

Not specialist.

Kam:

Oh, yeah. You know, m four rifle. First time I ever took it off of safety outside of a gun range. And I was getting ready to aim it at because I'm walking to go lock some stuff up, and there was a a pickup truck full of, people. Like, typical stereotypical black you can't see nothing but their eyes, full deck down AK 47, like, 12 of them packed up in the back of the thing.

Kam:

First time I ever took my gun off of safety. Turns out they're our allies, so they're they're they're with us. So right. Long story short, 7PM that night, I'm in a church service getting ready to take communion.

Micaela:

Oh, no way.

Kam:

Yes. Getting ready to take communion in a church service because a chaplain came and flew in because, you know, he heard it was about to happen. So he came in, made sure the faith was still in with the soldiers. Mhmm. So I go to this church service and we're getting ready to take communion.

Kam:

I open up the little thing to to drink the blood of Christ and the alarm goes off. And this was the alarm that we had I had embedded in my mind because they said if you hear this alarm, it's go time. Oh. For some reason, I go into the church service with no gear on. So when I hear this alarm, I had to run to my bedroom or that my little cot that I had, put my gear on.

Kam:

Man, I put that gear on in, like, five seconds.

Micaela:

Yeah. Yeah.

Kam:

Run there, get in the hallway locked, loaded, fully ready to go. I I'm aiming for the door to make sure, like, if someone comes in, I'm in charge of, you know, knocking out whoever comes in. I wouldn't bro, I never wanna harm anybody, but, you know, I'm in the army. I pray that day never happens, but I was ready. Right?

Kam:

False alarm. Say false alarm. So I Oh my gosh. So yes. So now I'm mad, but then I go back into to the church service, stupid enough, take all my gear off to go back into the church service.

Kam:

Going to the church service, getting ready to take communion again. Alarm goes off again. And this time, me and the pastor look at each other and we start laughing. And in our in the midst of our laugh, the first missile hits

Micaela:

boom. Oh, no way.

Kam:

Yes. And it like, I'm talking movie type scene. Ground shakes. The debris from the from the roof, like, falls and dissipates on top of our heads. I'm and then after that, it was just back to back.

Kam:

Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Kam:

Boom. Boom. Boom. Like, they had launched, like, 10 in the air. They're all just flying back to back to back.

Kam:

I run and I'm while I'm running, I'm, like, like, getting knocked over on my feet because the the vibration from the ground is going crazy. I go lock and load, bulletproof vest, helmet, everything like that. I'm in my pajamas. Bulletproof vest, all that stuff. Go into the hallway.

Kam:

Again, ain't at the door. And I'm not gonna lie, freaking out, bro. I'm freaking out. I'm, I'm a two parent household kid from the suburbs. You know what I'm saying?

Kam:

Like, gated community type guy. My next door neighbor was Billy Graham. Hey, Billy. How you doing, man? Like, you know what I'm saying?

Kam:

Like, so I'm I'm freaking out. I've never heard gunshots outside of a gun range. So now I'm hearing missiles aiming at us. Turns out the building that we were in was the headquarters where the where our best where our communication with the Pentagon was. So they were trying to knock our communication out so we would be we would be blind.

Kam:

Wow. Long story short, I'm in there from 7PM to 06:00 in the morning, just absolute gunfire back to back to back to back to back. And the whole time, all I could say was Jesus. I'm screaming Jesus' name. People were laughing at me, but I'm screaming Jesus' name the entire time.

Kam:

I'm not saying anything else. I'm not calling out any codes. I'm not calling out any any anything. No no formations. None of that.

Kam:

No flanks. Nothing. Just straight Jesus Christ. Jesus, like screaming to the top of my lungs, Jesus save us. The last missile hits and it hit and it come on bro.

Kam:

These these are like these are like nine feet long missiles because I know that for a fact because one of them didn't go off. When we went outside, we looked at it, it didn't go off. And it was like nine feet long with wings and everything like that, and fins and everything. A nine feet long missile hits right outside the door that I'm guarding. And I was like 10 feet away from the door.

Kam:

And you're telling me that a nine feet tall missile doesn't explode the entire building, but it lands right outside the door? And I'm calling on Jesus' name the whole

Micaela:

time. Mhmm.

Kam:

So the only one that saved me is Jesus Christ. I didn't call on Muhammad. I didn't call on, Buddha. I didn't call on no one else. I called on Jesus Christ, and we were saved.

Kam:

Wow. And that day forth, my I'd it didn't and I went to sleep like a baby that night too. Really? I don't have any PTSD to this day. I don't have any anxiety.

Kam:

I don't have any any any post traumatic stress disorder.

Micaela:

Dude, praise God. Yeah.

Kam:

And I went to sleep clean like a baby that night, thumb in my mouth type stuff. And I woke up the next morning like it didn't happen. It didn't really hit me that Jesus saved my life at that time. I had to process over time. But that was whenever I came back and I changed all my from that from that day forward, the rest of the deployment, I I I got a bible.

Kam:

I started reading the bible, and I started encountering Jesus in a way I can't explain. I'm getting ready to lay my head down, and as soon as I cool my eyes, the demon comes, like, right in front of my face, and it blew its hot, nasty breath on me. Wow. Wow. And then it started talking.

Kam:

It was like After that I was like, okay this stuff is actually real. I was delivered from seven demons. Like it felt like something was dragging me on the ground. I was flying across the ground.