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What is going on everybody welcome to
to the Clydesdale Medio interview series.
We're not naming this one,
but I have not done an
interview with an elite
athlete since the CrossFit Games.
And this is my first one.
And I figured I would ask my
friend to get me back on the horse.
She's always a ray of sunshine.
And I can't wait to talk to
her and catch up.
There's already a bunch of
people in the chat.
How are you doing, Hattie?
We've got people shouting you out.
Rashad Barksdale.
We've got Wad Zombie.
We've got Sarah Cooper.
We've got Big Pazley.
And Sarah wants to know,
she's part of Team Canada too.
Yay.
We love Canada.
So how have you been?
You know, I've been pretty good.
Just getting back into training.
uh I after the games I went
way too hard and so my body
was definitely feeling run
down for a little bit there
um but I'm starting to
slowly climb I mean we've
got wadapalooza so we'll
see how we feel there but
yeah um I want to start a
weird place just because
we're friends all these
wildfires are going nuts in california
You used to fight those pirates.
So when you see something like that,
does it put you back in
those situations when you
were out there fighting those things?
And is your boyfriend still doing that?
He is.
So he'll be going back up north in April.
Are you going up in April?
April first.
Yeah, he's going up April first.
So he's currently not on
right now they do have a
winter crew and actually my
friend who's up where Jake is going,
they are going to California,
which is crazy because
Alberta doesn't have a
contract with California so
they must have just made
one for this specific fire
because it's so
intense usually we go to
like montana or idaho um
but yeah they must really
need firefighters right now
so we're sending up I think
two unit crews which is
like twenty that would be
like forty people so yeah
so when you when you fight
these fires what are you
attacking it with what what
is the the what are you
trying to accomplish to get them to stop
Well, it's a lot different in the States.
I've I've fought fire in the
States before and they do a
lot of digging and hand
line because they don't
have a lot of water.
So where I work,
where I used to work in high level,
it's called.
So it's here in Alberta.
It's way up north where there's muskeg.
You're pretty much walking.
Sometimes you're walking in
muskeg up to your house.
belly button so no matter
what we usually have water
up there where you can kind
of dig a little bit and
then fill it up with your
hard hat and then we have
these things they're
backpacks we call them piss
packs um they're called way
jacks bags but you fill
them up with um with water
with your hard hat so you
just like push your hard
hat into the musk egg fill
it up with this dirty ass
water and then you throw it
into your your bag so you
just sit there fill up your bag and
And then by the time it's full,
it's like sixty, seventy pounds.
And then you're walking around.
So what happens is we get up
in a helicopter.
We go find this fire.
We're we're assessing the
fire in the helicopter,
figuring out where the heel
of the fire is and then
where the head of the fire is.
Obviously,
we don't want to get dropped off
anywhere close to the head of the fire.
So we find we assess,
we figure out where the
safety safest place is to.
Land and then so you'll land
at the heel of the fire and
then you'll walk in
sometimes it's a kilometer
Sometimes it's only you know,
it's not very far at all It
just kind of just depends
where you can get dropped
off So you walk into the
heel of the fire and then
usually so a helitack crew
goes in so that's only four
people Usually you'll have
two people go one way two
people go the other way And
so if the heel is or the
head is way up here,
then you'll have like your
two people going in
both ways just putting out
fire with your water right
and then I assume I mean I
haven't fought a ton of
like active fire in the
states but what they would
do a lot of the time is dig
line so same kind of idea
where you're just digging
line and you're just
working your your heel and
then your flanks and you're
just making your way up to the
the head of the fire, right?
And that's just so then it
doesn't go any further out
on the flanks or out on the heel.
So it doesn't grow that way, right?
So it only will grow where
the head is heading.
And that's kind of
essentially how you do it.
So yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy because that all
sounds great until the wind
gets involved.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was on one fire where the
head of the fire changed three times.
So we were working our way
and then all of a sudden,
so it was going this way.
And then all of a sudden the
winds changed and then the
head of the fire was that way.
So you have to be really mindful.
And then all of a sudden it
changed again and it was coming this way.
Right.
So it's just like,
it was good that it was
just in smaller brush where it,
you know,
you could kind of see what was going on.
So it wasn't in huge trees
where it's kind of,
it's a lot harder to see
where the fire is coming from, but yeah,
it can get intense for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, he put in his two cents over here.
So hooking up a bucket.
So it's not just us on the ground, right?
There's helicopters, there's planes.
So I don't know if you've
ever seen those planes.
I just posted a video where the scoopers,
they'll go on like the
ocean or lakes or something,
and they'll actually like
scoop water with their
bellies and then come up.
they'll drop water.
But the,
a really fun thing is hooking a
bucket up onto a helicopter.
So we actually have to do that.
Once he drops us off,
we get the bucket out and
then we hook it up to his
belly and then he'll fly
off and go dip that bucket
into a lake or the ocean or
whatever water source you can find.
And then he'll come and then
just drop it on like
certain parts of the fire.
That's super active.
So when you watch this stuff on the news,
can you empathize with the firefighters?
Yeah, for sure.
It's hard work,
and especially when it's so
hot and dry like that.
sometimes you just feel
useless because safety is
obviously number one, right?
So you're not going to go
put yourself into danger.
And when you can't do anything,
you're pretty much just
watching the helicopters
and the planes drop water.
And even that isn't doing a
ton because if it's super, super hot,
they can only really drop
down by the heel, which does some work,
but I mean,
it's still moving right with
the head of the fire.
So yeah.
Yeah.
It sucks when you feel useless,
when it's just like, okay,
I'm just over here, you know,
putting out these tiny little fires.
Meanwhile, in the head is just raging.
Yeah.
So I,
I'm going to put it in the
description below.
There's a GoFundMe account,
a couple of CrossFit gyms
lost everything in the fire.
CrossFit LA.
I think it's Oak.
It's Oakmont, I think,
or Oakfront or something like that.
They also lost everything.
There's a GoFundMe account.
I'm going to put a link to
that in the description.
If you feel inclined to donate,
anyone out there, please do so,
as they're really
struggling to fight these fires.
Because there isn't a lot of
water in LA right now to fight them.
No, that's what I heard,
that they're pretty much out of water.
So that's...
Again,
it's going to be really hard because
even just digging line, it just,
it isn't enough unless
you're digging super wide line.
And with that, you almost need machinery,
you know, big dozers and stuff like that.
Because even when I was in
the States trying to dig line, I'm like,
is this going to do much of
a fire is just raging?
You know what I mean?
It can jump, it can jump miles.
Like they'll find spot fires
that are miles away.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're getting a little bit
of feedback from when I talk.
Hopefully it's not too bad
for the audience.
Oh, is that from me?
It's what it is.
It's me talking and then my
voice coming back into your microphone.
So it's doubling up.
Okay.
Until it recognizes it, then it stops.
But at first it, it's a little bit of a,
but it's a headphones if it's better.
Um, if it doesn't want to take that long,
I think it will be better.
Okay.
Jake, can I use your headphones?
I'll just grab them real quick.
Okay.
Ooh, got the gaming headphones.
I miss those.
I miss those from the Bali episodes.
Yeah.
see here wad zombie says we
had tons of rain and our
wonderful leaders drained
most of our reservoirs yeah
that's what I heard okay
how's that uh it's way better
Way better.
So my one experience with
wildfires is I was living
in Florida and there were
wildfires there.
And one of the I was trying
to go get my parents from
the airport in Jacksonville.
And I lived in Tallahassee
driving down the road.
There's a wildfire on one
side of the road.
And as we were driving by it, it jumped.
It jumped from one side of
the road to the other side
and totally freaked me out.
And you got to witness that?
Yeah, as it happened.
And then when we got to Jacksonville,
we couldn't get back the
same route because they
closed that down until they
could get that contained.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I saw one jump when I was up
in the helicopter too.
It was one of the biggest fires up north.
And I was sent to it.
I was leading the fire.
And so we were up in the air
just trying to assess it,
figuring it out.
And I was just like, okay.
if it just doesn't jump the
highway then we're good and
sure enough three minutes
later it just jumps the
highway and the guy that
was he was a higher up he
was up there with me trying
because this was one of my
first really big fires like
leading it and so he was up
there helping me out a
little bit and we both just
looked at each other oh my
gosh why did I have to say
that it heard me and then
it just jumped across
Yeah.
It is crazy what nature can do.
For sure it is.
It can be beautiful and it
can be devastating in a snap.
It's insane.
Yeah.
So I want to go into the CrossFit year.
Last we talked and last we hung out,
you were having...
one of the most amazing
seasons that you have
definitely ever had.
Yeah.
You had made your first CrossFit Games.
We talked right before that started.
And I could not have been
more excited for you.
Like this lifelong dream,
you get there and then
event one happens and
there's a big tragic event.
Yeah.
How does, how do you,
that you have this dream and you're there,
yet this other thing happened.
And I've wrestled with this for six months,
so I'm sure there's no easy answer.
Yet how do you be graceful
and understand that we lost
somebody and all of that
stuff and still go on?
What was that Friday like for you?
It was definitely tough.
Like we all got into that.
I wanted to say gymnasium.
We got into the Coliseum and
had that meeting at night.
You know what I mean?
And it was kind of just like the unknown.
We just didn't really know.
And then when Dave said that
it was going to keep going
on and people storming out, it was just,
there's so many emotions going on.
And I am just already an empathetic,
emotional kind of person.
So I was just like, holy crap,
this feels insane.
I didn't really know what to do,
but I also was just like, okay,
step back and figure out what you want,
not what other people are doing.
Cause I feel like a couple
people kind of saw what
other people did and then
they instantly reacted
rather than just like,
let's just sit here, talk it out,
figure it out instead of
you know acting on emotion
almost um so I just I for
me I thought I need to do
that for myself and not act
you know abruptly and just
kind of figure out what I
want out of it um again it
was definitely hard but
being I think being a
rookie it was even harder in the sense of
you know, you want it,
we want it to be there so bad.
And that was our lifelong dream.
And so it was just like, okay, well,
I still want to compete.
So, you know, after a while I was like, no,
I still do want to compete.
I just want to figure out
how I can do it in the most
respectful way, I guess, and still,
you know, fulfill my,
my dream of being here kind of thing.
I
Um, how much did, who,
who was in your corner that night?
And you have your coach, Tristan,
you have Jake, you,
you have a friend with CBG, uh, Amanda,
right?
Yeah.
Um, so were, were those,
those the people you,
you kind of bedded down
with and talked to and
tried to figure out what's next?
Yeah.
And that's what I was going
to bring up too, is it, it,
it definitely helped having my
my team there, my people,
you know what I mean?
To kind of calm me down and
tell me their opinions and just like,
tell that,
tell me how proud they are of me,
no matter what kind of thing, you know?
And yeah, we had like, I think there was,
so my mom, my manager, Rashad,
who said hi earlier, Tristan, his wife,
um, our,
our best friends that we
haven't seen in a while um
brandon nicola were there
we had this big airbnb so
there was all of us in
there amanda um there was a
ton of us in there and it
was just nice to have
everybody when I got back
to you know be there for me
and they said we're here
for you no matter what no
matter what you decide and
stuff so yeah it was just
really nice to have everybody at that
Um, uh, at the Coliseum that night,
Tristan was there.
Um, so it was just me and Tristan,
but it was really good to
have him there as well,
because he again said that as well.
He's like, whatever you decide,
like I'm here for you.
You know what I mean?
Um, so yeah.
Once you made the decision
that you were going to go on, um,
How did you take the next
steps to get yourself ready
for Friday morning?
Right.
Uh, or was it Saturday morning?
Saturday.
Yeah.
Friday.
Yeah.
Started Thursday.
Yeah.
Like, it felt like so long ago.
We're already on to new things.
But yeah, I think I just told myself, hey,
we just need to take this
one event at a time and
just figure it out as we go kind of thing,
not have these big expectations.
I think the one thing that
went through my mind was,
I don't know if I should be
celebrating or not,
because I don't know if that's
know disrespectful or I
don't know I didn't really
know what to do in that
sense and I thought that I
was going to be okay on
that first event but
as soon as they called my name.
So we were all in a line
right in the back and
there's this big curtain
and then there's a little
slit in the curtain so you
can kind of see out there.
And you can see someone in
there or out there telling you, okay,
now come, right?
So we were all lined up over here.
The slit was right here.
So one person,
you'd go right here and
you'd be in front of the
slit and then the person
would go and then the next
person would come out and
then you would go.
so I was still over here and
I was like okay I think I'm
okay I think I'm okay and
then as soon as I walked
right here and I could just
see the people there was no
music you could kind of
hear out there too how it
was just like very eerie um
I just started crying I was
like oh my gosh what this
is our first year and it's
just so intense I didn't know what to do
you know and then I didn't
really know what to do when
I went out there it was
hilarious because Maggie
you know Maggie one of the
head judges yeah so she was
out there and she was
telling me come on come
over here but I thought she
was like trying to give me
a high five so I was like
yeah and I didn't really
know what to do I was just
so flustered when I went
out there again there was
just no music the people
everyone was quiet um but
again I was like you just
got to take it event at
by one event at a time
because that's just all you could do.
You know,
you can't think about the weekend.
You just got to take it one
event at a time and figure
it out as you go.
So Sarah asked this question.
I think you kind of addressed it.
Do you think it was easier
on the rookie since they
didn't know Lazar?
I'm not saying it wasn't difficult,
but curious.
And you actually said it was
harder because it's your
dream and you're there and
there's a lot on that.
Yeah,
I think it's different between every
individual.
I'm also not great with deaths,
even if I don't know people
like it still hit me,
but I can't even imagine
the people that actually knew him.
Um,
yeah, I had a dream.
This might be a little TMI,
but I had a dream that
night after it happened
that I was like swimming
and then he was below me
and like reaching out for help.
And even that was like, what?
Like, I don't even know him.
I don't, I didn't even see him.
You know what I mean?
And it was just like, holy crap.
So it still hit me.
You know what I mean?
But
I don't know.
I don't, I wouldn't say it was easier.
It might've been easier for
us to kind of go on in the sense of, yeah,
this was our dream and we wanted to,
you know, fulfill our dream.
But at the same time I felt like,
I don't know, it was just a weird,
a weird situation because
people didn't really talk
and I didn't really know
too many people either.
So it was kind of hard to
like have conversations
with people as well.
So yeah.
I think Jeremy Eats World
says it for all of us.
Yeah.
That's got to be tough as hell to process.
And on a lighter note,
did Hattie get that headset
from the helicopter she rides?
It does look like one of those, eh?
Nah, Jake's a gamer,
so I stole his gaming headset.
Sarah said,
easier isn't the right word for
my question.
Hopefully you knew what I meant.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I think we do.
Yeah, there's no judgment on this show.
We're just trying to walk
through this process.
I was there live,
and when you walked into
the stadium that morning,
it was the weirdest thing I
ever encountered in sport.
The stadium was full,
but there was no sound.
yeah no sound and yeah it
was just three two one go
and you're just like okay
like this is weird we're
doing some deadlifts and
then we're doing some rope
climbs like is this how the
weekend is gonna go you
know and I get it the first one
Maybe that was more of a tribute, like,
let's have some silence or whatever.
But then we were like,
if we're going to keep this
weekend going and we're
doing this for the fans,
but also ourselves and also
him and also all these things,
and we want to still...
kind of do our best in a way
then we need at least like
maybe some music to just
try to lighten it up a
little bit we're not trying
to lighten it up in the
sense of oh yeah that
happened we're done with
that we still wanted to
remember him but like let's
you know lighten it up just
a little bit with some
music or something because
that was just it was like
yeah well on saturday
morning when they played
the music for chad I think
that gave the fans then
permission to cheer like
But then that was another thing.
I had people being like,
why are they cheering?
Why are they happy?
It's like, oh, you can't win.
I came to the resolution
that people are going to be
pissed off no matter what
happened that weekend.
It was a no-win situation
that everybody was trying
to tread through and...
there were moments that
things were going to happen
and half the community was
going to be pissed and half
the community was going to
be okay with it.
And you just had to live
with that and move on.
Yeah.
It's not the people were
just forgetting what happened and,
or laughing about it or
anything like that.
It's like, they still, you know,
people process things in different ways.
And I mean,
people still did come there
from all around, you know,
the world even.
And it's just like, okay, well,
if this is still going to go on, then like,
let's at least let people, you know,
have a semi good time.
Was there a moment on the
weekend where you just had
to shut down the outside noise?
Were you ever able to do that?
It was hard.
Um, I think just in each workout,
that was just my time to be like, okay,
I'm going to go out and try to enjoy.
This is what I love to do is work out.
And so, you know,
I tried to take things from
each event and just like be
grateful for certain things and, you know,
just try to enjoy the
moment when I was there.
And so that kind of was the
time that I was able to do that, I guess.
But then when I would go home,
all of a sudden it would
just be a flood of emotions again.
And it would just be like,
push and pull of, Oh no,
am I doing the right thing?
Kind of thing, you know, should I,
should I stop?
Should I, you know, I don't know.
It was just such a weird feeling.
So as the weekend on from
being in the crowd,
it seemed to get easier to
move on as the weekend went on.
Like by Sunday,
it was as close to normal as we ever got.
And it still was not normal.
Yeah.
But it moved closer in that direction.
You said, first of all, after it was over,
were you proud of yourself for, one,
completing the weekend
under the circumstances in
which you were presented
and being able to endure that tough,
hard time?
Let's just start with that one.
I mean...
I think there wasn't any
feeling of that at first.
I was kind of just like, okay,
I just did the thing.
It was weird and that's it.
But then, you know,
a lot of people were like, Hey,
I'm super proud of you for going,
for doing what you did
under those circumstances.
And then that kind of made me realize,
Oh yeah, I'm proud of myself too,
because that was hard.
Like,
especially that first workout in the
Coliseum, I was like,
this is my first workout.
time stepping in the
coliseum as a crossfit
games athlete I should not
be feeling like this but I
get that you know in these
circumstances I am and it
literally felt like I had
already done that workout
twice that's how depleted I
was so I was just sitting
there like how are we gonna
do a huge chipper right now
just feeling this depleted you know but
we got through it and yeah I
am proud and I was proud of
myself especially as people
were kind of telling me
that it opened up my eyes
of like hey you do need to
be proud of yourself no
matter what so you
mentioned earlier in the
show after the games you
went hard um in training
what was that a response to
what you had just been
through or did you did you
have other plans to try to
get in volume where you could.
No, definitely not the second one.
It was like,
I laid on this couch right
here for a week straight
and ate Wendy's every single night.
I would have a waffle in the
morning and Wendy's at night.
And that's all I would eat
for a week straight.
And I would just lay on this couch,
just scrolling or watching
TV or whatever.
And I was just a little bit
depressed of like the whole thing.
trying to figure out what
just happened um and so my
reaction to that was like
okay stop being like stop
being like this you need to
move and so in hindsight I
should have gone to the
mountains I should have you
know still maybe gone to
the gym and got on a bike
or something you know moved
went on walks or whatever
it was but I was just like
I went to what I knew my body you know
could do and so I was just
like okay I'm back and I
was back for at four hours
a day like every day the
next week so it's just like
I only took one week off
after the games and that I
should have I shouldn't
have done that but I just
didn't know what else to do
so and my body surprisingly
felt good but I think I
honestly think I was just
still riding like that
adrenaline or something
uh because then I did rogue
I think three weeks after
the games it was or
something crazy like that
and my body was just like
just hit the wall I was
like oh my gosh this is not
ideal but and that was the
rogue qualifier yeah um so
what is what is hattie's
go-to wendy's order oh
number six the spicy chicken burger
frosty on the side sometimes
I did maybe twice of that
week or else I'll just get
a pop some kind of pop okay
just had to know I think
they've so Wendy's is
actually based here in
Columbus and I and I'm mad
at them because I think
they changed the chicken in
their spicy chicken and
No, you can't.
It's so good.
And the original spicy
chicken was one of my
favorite things in the world.
What's different?
It's just not as good.
I think the quality of
chicken has gone down.
Oh, that makes me mad.
Because I love that order so much.
Yeah.
I don't go there very often, but when I do,
that's what I would get.
And I can't even order it anymore.
Ugh.
You better riot or something.
Back to the normal chicken.
This must be a Canadian thing.
Wendy's has pretty good poutine.
Oh,
I actually haven't tried their poutine.
I that's a Canadian thing, right?
That's cheese curds and
gravy on fries or something.
Oh yeah.
It's so good.
There was this one place I
went to in Vancouver after
some country concert that I went to, uh,
we got poutine and this poutinery,
you could get anything.
I think I got the pierogi, uh,
poutine or something,
but they had all of these crazy poutines.
It was so good.
Now, pierogies,
you're talking my language.
That's a Pittsburgh Polish thing that,
man.
Yeah, they're good.
I miss those so much.
They have pierogi pizzas in Pittsburgh.
Oh, yeah.
Our best pizza place here
has a pierogi pizza,
and it's really good.
We actually just made a
pierogi casserole the other day.
We were having Friendsgiving,
and we just thought, okay,
what should we bring?
We had pierogies in the freezer,
so we looked up recipes and
found this pierogi casserole.
it was bomb wow okay um so
then so then you get to the
off season you don't
qualify for rogue right
because your body has hit
the wall oh those were some
crazy workouts um one more
poutine that is breakfast
poutine with poached egg is
life okay that actually
sounds money sounds bomb
Yeah, I love poached eggs.
So then you sign up for
Desert City Classic,
where you go and you take second place.
And I think you actually,
in your stories on Instagram,
if I'm remembering correctly,
you weren't feeling well that weekend.
I was sick as a dog.
And so you're fighting
through this illness.
And you still come in second place.
So is the theme of the year now becoming,
hey,
I'm proud of myself for fighting
through whatever it is I
had to fight through that weekend.
It still came out okay on the other end.
Oh, yeah.
Because then I did another
competition here in Calgary.
And I was like, oh, yeah.
So a day before that.
I thought okay I'm feeling
pretty good and then the
day of a sickness hit me
and I'm just like am I just
not supposed to be
competing right now I mean
I think I was putting my
body through the ringer so
my body probably was just
like what are you doing to
me right now so you're
speaking of battle of the
barracks yep where you won
sick and that belt
If you have followed this podcast, uh,
we interview all the semifinal athletes.
So these are my peeps on this,
on this podium here.
Um,
and it was so cool seeing you and Gabby
and, uh, Amy, is it Amy?
Yeah.
Uh, and in the top three, uh,
because I've talked to you
guys every year for like three years.
Yeah.
They're pretty awesome.
Um, so I love, I love the sweep.
but I've got to ask about the belt.
It's awesome.
I've wanted it for years.
And so finally this year I was like, okay,
I I'm actually here.
I'm not in Bali.
So I just went thinking I
got to get that belt.
So heavy duty too.
So it's a real like championship belt.
Oh yeah.
She got them custom made.
Is that the coolest trophy
you've ever won?
Yeah, I'd probably say so.
It's pretty up there for sure.
Yeah, because usually it's just medals.
I mean,
Desert City Classic gave us some
really cool wooden plaques.
Those were really nice.
But that belt is pretty sick.
Yeah, in all of sports,
like a championship ring
would be number one.
Oh, yeah.
That'd be cool.
And then for me,
number two would be the belt.
It's pretty kick-ass.
Okay.
Now, do you have it displayed?
Yeah, I do.
I have like this little area
in my room that has my
vision board and then a
bunch of medals and that is in there too.
Have you,
have you worn it around the house
and just been like, Jake,
I actually wore it to the
gym two days later when I
was coaching and just
didn't say anything.
It's like, okay guys,
we're getting ready to do
the warmup or whatever.
And everyone's just looking at me.
What are you doing?
Oh, yo.
Oh, this, this little thing.
Yeah.
Established dominance
wearing that belt in.
That's awesome.
Um, so when you did those two, you were,
you were sick through those two.
What was your favorite part
of the two weekends?
I mean, both of them,
I got to see friends.
So I think that was awesome.
I knew I was going to see
Gabby and Amy and a bunch
of other people that I
haven't seen in a while.
And then Desert City,
I got to compete with
actually the two girls that
I'm going on a team to Waterpalooza with.
Tristan came.
So, yeah,
it was just awesome being with
people there.
um that I love and was it
your first normal
competition since the games
and did it feel normal yeah
yeah it did it felt pretty
normal I thought the desert
city was really well done
uh well well run and then
the venue that they were in
was really cool too so
Yeah, the one in Arizona,
that's where they hold Legends as well.
That Arizona State campus is gorgeous.
Yeah, it's super cool.
And the pool right off of
the two main floors, amazing.
Yeah, it's the perfect venue.
That's all you want.
You got a pool,
you got two different stages.
And it has that balcony
where you can get some
awesome shots with the camera.
yeah yeah it's cool and then
the the calgary one has
always been a really cool
competition they're just
super small and intimate
they're actually moving to
a bigger gym which is sad
in a way I'm so excited for
them but just how intimate
this competition has been
always it's just yeah I I'm
glad that I got to compete
there one more time in that
venue but I am excited for
them to be in a bigger
venue it'll be really cool
CrossFat says you should cut
some promos and call out
other Canadian CrossFitters
with the belt.
Nice, yeah.
And then I think he's
talking about something different than us,
but he said there's plenty
of things on ASU campus
that are gorgeous.
But I think he's talking
about something else.
Yeah.
So you go to these two events.
You kind of get back a sense of normalcy.
You podium at both.
Kind of get on a roll.
But then it's time to take a
break until Wadapalooza.
Yeah.
So what then... And while
you're kind of taking this break,
news is breaking about a
new CrossFit game season,
about a new league that's forming, and...
And you still have a lot of
clues on the horizon.
Like,
what is your thinking as all this is
coming out?
Are you someone that wants
to take advantage of every
opportunity if you can?
Or are you just saying,
I need to pick my path?
A bit of both.
Like, obviously...
I say yes too many times.
So I think that's kind of
what happened with like
Desert City and then Battle
in the Barracks as well.
But I really am glad that I
went to those two.
But lately, yeah,
I haven't even really been
excited for Waterpalooza.
I hope it turns around in
the next week because it's
literally next week.
But yeah.
I think I was just saying
yes to too many things.
So for me, with everything coming out,
I've been trying to be
smarter in the sense of being like, okay,
let's just figure out what we need to do.
Um, rather than just trying to do too much,
you know what I mean?
And even with world fitness project,
it would be cool to do it,
but I think I might just, you know,
sit back and see how it goes this,
this year and then figure
it out from there.
Um,
just because there is so much and I
still do want to compete at
the CrossFit games.
So, um, I don't know,
it's just a little bit up
in the air right now.
So I feel like I'd rather
focus on what I've always
tried to focus on.
which is the games.
Yeah.
I, I've, we did a show last,
my did my Sunday night show
last night with Carolyn Prevo.
And we talked about how with
all this coming out and the,
and the season becoming
more jam packed with events
that as an athlete,
athletes have been
clamoring for more
opportunity and more ways
to make money and more ways
to get their name out there.
But to do that, now that it's here,
you're going to have to
change the way you train.
Because training is going to
be about who can stay as
consistently on top for a
longer part of the year
than just going into a
whole training and peaking
for one opportunity.
Yeah.
Which I don't love just
because I think lately I've
just been traveling too much.
So for me, the thought of traveling,
traveling,
traveling for all these competitions,
I just, I'm over it.
Maybe my, my, you know,
perspective will change
later on when I'm not so
burnt out from just
traveling and trying to do
all these things.
Um, but I love the feeling of, you know,
training hard for that one thing,
you know, all year.
So I don't know,
it will be different for sure,
but I don't know if I
really love the thought of that,
to be honest.
Yeah.
It is a complete mind shift
for most CrossFit athletes.
Like other sports,
that's the way they live, right?
The NFL plays every single
week and nobody's a hundred
percent going into every game.
Um,
but also I feel like they probably get
paid to travel and everything.
That's the other thing is just,
it's such a, yeah,
it's so much to have to travel,
find accommodation, you know,
go find your groceries, go find this,
do all like every, all of that, you know,
it's a lot.
And if you're paying out of pocket, I mean,
I'm grateful for some of my
sponsors who have
definitely helped me with these.
If I didn't have that,
then I don't know what I would do.
So it is nice, but it's a lot.
Yeah,
I guess until you win a pro card with
the WFP and you have a
contract that would pay for
all of your travel,
you are kind of on the
outside trying to get in there.
I think that makes a great
storyline of the underdogs
trying to get to that point.
So as a media person, I kind of love that.
Right.
But I do get...
and I'm going to pop up this
question because I think it
fits in what we've been talking about.
Have the games lost any luster as a goal?
Also,
how does Canada fix its world juniors
hockey team?
So for you,
the games is still your main
goal right now.
Yeah.
Do you think that that is,
do you think that that is
the same sentiment for a lot of athletes?
Honestly, I don't know.
It's hard to say because you think,
I feel like the people that
are signing with the World
Fitness Project,
you'd think that maybe
that's not their goal,
but then I keep on hearing, oh no,
you can do both.
You can do both.
People will be doing both.
So I have no idea.
For me,
I don't want to lose hope in
CrossFit just yet.
It's kind of,
You know,
I think I'm so new and maybe I'm naive.
I don't know.
But I also just, you know,
they're still young and
they're just trying to
figure themselves out.
And I get that they have made mistakes,
but we all make mistakes.
And I just don't know if we
need to be throwing them
into the trash just yet.
You know what I mean?
So for me,
I just still want to strive for
something that I kind of
have always wanted.
strived for and I mean again
I'm just gonna see how this
world fitness project goes
as well and maybe I will
push for it as well I just
you know I need to stop
putting too much on my
plate though at this point
yeah I um I'll give you my
two cents I think that
there is a a silent
majority who still think
the games is the the big
thing the big deal yeah
They're just not talking.
They're not,
they're just not out there saying it.
The people that are out
there talking have like
maybe a different point of view.
But I do think that the
majority of the athletes
think the games is the, is the peak.
Yeah.
What I love about the world
fitness project is it's
going to push the
creativity for CrossFit.
Because there is going to be
competition and CrossFit
won't be the only game in town now.
They're going to have to
look at their season and
maybe streamline it so it
makes more sense.
Do you think that they will say, hey,
you can only do one or the other?
I don't think we're big
enough for either side to
be able to say that at this point.
I think it has to be both.
I think it's going to be
difficult to do both with
the first tour event being in May,
right on the same weekend
as the French throwdown.
All those European athletes
lose a qualifying event
because they have to come
all the way to Indianapolis to compete.
Yeah.
Yeah.
so I think that that is
that's really hard um but
if you you wanted a pro
event and you wanted all
these opportunities you're
gonna have to make a
sacrifice somewhere to get
it right um but even if
world fitness project
doesn't make it right the
xfl didn't make it when it
tried to compete with the
nfl but they took bits and
pieces of it that were
innovative and creative and
the nfl adopted them
Yeah,
and hopefully that's what CrossFit
would do because, you know,
you hear all the talks of, oh,
they don't listen, they don't do this,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But I feel like they've made
little changes, you know,
maybe trying to listen here and there.
Maybe not big ones where you
can... I think it's all a
vacuum because they've had
nobody competing against them.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
But maybe we get that finally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's just me.
So I want to talk about the game season.
So now you have to do the
open and you have to finish in the top.
One percent should not be a
problem for how to can you
should not be a problem.
Hopefully let's cross the fingers.
I don't know.
You just never know when
things get squirrely.
Yeah.
There are two different ways
you can qualify.
You can either do the online semifinal.
Add an affiliate and that if
you finish in the top twelve in the world,
you get a spot to the games.
Is it twelve or fourteen?
They just added another in person,
so it got reduced to twelve.
Oh, see, I'm so out of it.
I'm just asking Tristan to
do all of this for me
because it's so there's so much.
I just need to train over
here and you tell me what to do.
And then you have the choice
of going to a handful of
different in-person events
where you can compete where
you'll have to finish in
the top two to get your
spot to the games.
As someone who struggled to
make it to their first games,
and they've changed this so wildly,
what are your thoughts on...
top two at in-person events
and top twelve worldwide in
the online semi?
I mean, if I don't shit the bed,
then top two could be attainable.
Like I did at semifinals.
No, it is going to be rough, though.
It's going to be tough
because online qualifiers, I'm okay,
but I don't love them.
So yeah, it's just going to be harder,
I feel like.
When you don't know who's
signing up for each event, right?
So you don't know what the competition is.
It's like this wild unknown.
Yeah.
And it does.
Yeah.
You have to take an account.
Cause it's like,
I know a couple of people
who are going to the one
that I'm trying for right now.
And it's just like, okay,
maybe I could beat them.
But at the same time, I just,
I don't know at the same, you know,
I don't know.
It's hard,
but you still got to go and try.
So I feel like,
you can do both so I feel
like I'll probably try to
do an in-person one and
online yeah well since you
say yes to everything you
can do like five of the
in-persons uh let's not do
that my body would just be
so broken uh your coach is
here saying wasn't she in
first till the last event at semis
If you listen to our year-end show,
I actually picked her as
the surprise performance of
the year for that semifinal
performance because you
were unstoppable until you weren't.
Oh, do you guys got to bring it up?
Like what is with this?
Everyone just shut your mouth.
No, just kidding.
It was truly one of the most
amazing performances I've ever seen.
And my friend was out there killing it.
It was pretty electric.
Until the freaking last event.
Now that last event was
picked as the most
brilliantly programmed event of the year.
Was it?
Because the length of that
lunge was such that it
destroyed some people.
Yeah.
And if you messed up once,
it seemed to compound.
And that's what happened.
I got a costly no rep,
which shouldn't have been a no rep.
Judge, whoever my judge was, thanks a lot.
No.
Yeah.
Tristan says he's just being a turd.
I know.
Canadians in those last events.
It's funny because you
finished in a tie for third.
Even shitting the bed on the last event,
you finished in a tie for
third with Ariel Lowen.
It's true.
I'm pretty proud of it that
weekend for sure.
It was such a weird feeling
when you know that you're
going to be making it for sure.
And then all of a sudden,
so all I wanted to do was make the games.
And then when I knew that I
had a shot at podium, that just changed.
It was just, I don't know.
And then I didn't make it onto the podium,
technically, whatever.
It was just such a weird feeling.
I wasn't proud of myself at first,
but then obviously in
thinking about it afterwards, it was,
yeah, I'm proud of myself.
And you didn't know where
you stood until someone
told you right before that last event.
Yeah.
Hey, you made it to the games.
Oh, now my body just relaxed.
And that's why I didn't
really go very hard on that last one.
You were the only person to
lock up a game spot before
the last event.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
I just didn't need to know
it before the last event.
Yeah.
That's okay, though.
Um,
CrossFit says Brent made a career
punting final events into the stands.
He did before he made it.
He,
he blew up a couple of times at the end.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
feel like we all have to
experience it just to know
what it feels like and then
that kind of pushes you
harder and again I needed
to be a little bit more
mentally strong in the
sense of I heard that news
okay that's amazing I'm so
proud that I made it but we
still need to go out there
and perform you know what I
mean it wasn't just all of
a sudden okay rainbows
lollipops my body is like a
little rag doll over here
doesn't know what it's doing
Well, and thankfully for you,
you got to learn that
lesson when it didn't cost
you a game spot.
Yeah, for sure.
You still got to go.
You still finished third.
You still got all those things.
Yeah.
I, I just was,
I was riding the high watching you.
And,
and then when I saw you fall back on
that final event,
like I'm yelling at my TV, Patty,
pick them up.
It's funny because when I
first picked them up, it wasn't that bad.
I was like, okay, this is the last.
This is all you got to do.
It's just it started getting
hard at that last line,
and that's why I took the big lunge.
And then he just called it a no rep.
But there's video proof that
I did get past that line.
So you shouldn't have gotten a rep.
So another thing that I
learned as well is that I
should appeal on,
because obviously we
weren't allowed to leave.
So I should have appealed
right then and there too.
And I didn't,
I didn't ever have experience
of doing that.
So I didn't really think about it,
that you could do that.
So really I should have just been like,
Hey, actually that was a rep.
So now you got to give me my
time back or whatever.
Right.
But it's okay.
so we're coming to the end
I'm going to ask you one
question just overarching
one of the big major rule
changes this year for all
the online portions of the
game season are that you
have to make your videos
public yeah so they are out
there for everybody in the
world to see and if you are
a qualified judge you can
you actually get the
opportunity to go in and
judge the video and give it
one of the four ratings like good to go
Take a look.
Oh, bad,
but with penalty or something like that.
And then invalid or one of the other ones,
zero score.
So you're going to be judged
by a group of people doing that.
And do you think that,
that I've talked to other
athletes that are excited about that.
They feel like other people
were getting away with
things and this way it will
stop that from happening.
I am a hundred percent with them.
I think that people do get
away with things and, you know,
even the stuff that happened last year,
it's like, okay, cool, but move better.
I'm sorry, but you know,
I take pride in moving really well.
And yeah, I get no reps too.
I got a no rep on those box step ups.
I got one.
you know, one rep taken away,
but I still try to move.
I, I move so well.
No, just kidding.
I move pretty good that
Tristan was screaming at me
at the desert city classic
because Amanda and I joke
around that one of my best
friends is the one that
taught me CrossFit.
And he taught us to move so
well that we like pause at
the top of our dumbbell
snatch to make sure everyone look,
I'm locking out.
Okay, next.
Look, I'm locking out.
So at Desert City Classic,
it was thrusters.
And I do the same thing with
my dumbbell thrusters where
I pause and I go down.
It's not just me like taking a breath.
It's actually just me
pausing at the top of every rep.
And he was yelling at me.
I just looked at him and I
was just dying at that point.
He's like, stop.
Stop pausing at the top.
He says,
these thrusters from Desert City
will be the death of me.
So we've been working on them.
Let's just say that.
Just being a little bit
faster with bringing those
dumbbells down.
Yeah.
I had the same thing.
The first coach I ever had
in CrossFit was very,
very hard on your movement.
And if you didn't make three points of...
in a line than it wasn't a
rep and like you got you
would get no repped in in
just a class workout all
the time I mean I would way
rather that than just try
to hurry through something
and not you know and be
doing quarter reps or
whatever it is I just I've
always been like that and
I'm gonna hold the standard so
But what I did notice as well,
and this is where Tristan's coming from,
my gym would go to local
comps and we would get beat
because we were hitting full extension.
We were hitting.
And other people weren't
getting away with it.
And they were getting away with it.
Yeah, it is frustrating for sure.
Sometimes you do have it in
the back of your head on an online one.
It's just like.
should I just not no rep
myself or you know what I
mean or should I just go as
fast as I can and it's okay
if I'm not fully extending
but in the end there's
times on online ones where
I get a no rep and I'll no
rep myself and then I'll
just keep on going you know
what I mean and it's just
like okay maybe I didn't
need to do that if they
want to take the penalty
then cool but it's just
ingrained in my head that
that's just what I'm going
to do so whatever
But yes, I agree,
and I'm happy that we're
going to get judged from all the judges.
So a couple quick hitting questions.
First of all,
have you solved the getting
sick at competitions?
Or do we have to wait for
Wadapalooza to find out?
We're probably going to have
to wait for Wadapalooza.
And there you are doing both
individual and team.
Yeah.
If I would have known it was
six workouts for both,
I probably would have only
done one to be honest.
It's just a lot right now,
but here we are.
The good thing is the team,
you don't have to do every
aspect of the workout, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get a little more rest for sure.
Although the first year they
did this where you could do both,
I talked to athletes who are like,
I'm never doing that again.
But then I saw them signed
up for both the next year.
And then they came out with six and six.
That's wild.
I feel like they didn't do that last year.
I think it's been six.
Well, last year with the weather,
things got all caught up and everything.
But I think the intention
has always been six and six.
I didn't know that.
I just assumed they did that this year.
Hopefully there's a couple sprints.
Yeah.
Whatever.
We'll just get through it.
We'll eat lots of food.
Are you excited to work out
in the sand again?
Yeah.
You got some experience with it.
Oh yeah.
I actually love it.
I hope there's a sprint in the sand.
Three of the events are
supposed to be in the sand?
Yes, I heard two or three.
Two or three, okay.
And then your team is
Madison McElhaney and Alisa Shower?
Alisa, yeah.
Alisa Shower.
Yeah.
And are they both with Tristan?
Yes, they are.
Alisa just started with
Tristan not too long ago.
Okay.
Yeah, I didn't recognize the name.
Yeah, she's Madison's best friend.
And we all competed at
Desert City together.
So it was super cool.
Are you more excited for
team or individual?
I'd say team.
It's just more fun.
And I just don't need to be
going that hard right now,
but I'm going to have to.
So we're just going to have
to nut up and shut up and just do it.
Did you say nut up and shut up?
Yeah, I don't even know what that means,
but I just heard it once.
Oh my gosh, that caught me off guard.
Wow, that's a great line.
You've never heard that before?
I've probably heard it before.
I didn't expect it out of you.
Yep.
We're going to have to do.
So you've been to Wadapalooza before.
Have you competed on the
elite level there?
No, I competed RX,
I think maybe three years ago.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And so like,
So you're getting all these
new opportunities because
you're a games athlete.
Yeah.
How has that been?
It's been good.
I kind of wish that... So I
got asked to do the reps
ahead that day on Thursday,
but I'm doing elite.
Or I'm doing individual.
So I almost wish that I just
didn't do an individual.
I would way rather do reps ahead.
It looks like so much fun.
So I hope that they ask me
to do it again someday.
And they play well.
Yeah.
It's just fun because it's, yeah,
I love the idea of it,
the knockout and its interval stuff,
which I love.
So, yeah.
They do a couple things
better than anybody else.
It's only two people on the floor,
so it's easy to know the story.
Right.
Yeah.
It's fast.
It's like five minutes long.
So if I want to introduce
somebody to CrossFit,
I can show them reps ahead
and it makes sense to them
in one sitting.
Right.
I like that.
Yeah.
And they have these big
counters on screens behind the athletes.
So, you know,
exactly like who's ahead and
who's behind.
Yeah, they do it really well.
they do that really well.
And the fact that there's
guaranteed pay for every
athlete that comes and does it is they've,
they've got something pretty cool there.
Yeah, I agree.
So hopefully someday I'll be
able to do that, but yeah,
they've got a lot,
quite the lineup with
hopper and pepper going, uh,
on the men's side and Gazan
and Lawson going on the women's side.
They're having like a,
another one go on because
if I remember correctly,
I was supposed to go
against like Brittany Weiss or something.
Okay.
If I would have done it,
but maybe there's one before,
maybe they're like the pro
lineup or something.
Yeah,
Patrick Clark said last night to
Carolyn that he may be in touch with her.
So that might be a cool Canadian,
Carolyn Prevost and Hattie Canio.
Yeah, that'd be sick.
I'd throw down with Carolyn.
Yeah.
I think you guys would make
a good matchup.
I think so, too.
That'd be good.
You're about the same height.
similar skills in some ways
um uh just hope they don't
put a deadlift in there
because she just is a
monster on that bro I had
to do a qualifier today
with deadlifts and yeah
please don't put deadlifts
in there are you doing the
norcal yeah uh traveling
double unders easy hard
not too bad it's funny
because I've done those so
in um for coaching I will I
will sometimes do that for
uh teaching people double
unders and even single
under so I'll get two line
up and then I'll say okay
let's go down the line just
teaching people you know
technique and um tempo and
whatever it is so I'll have
them go single unders and
then we'll play around with like cross
I'll have people try to go
in a circle single-unders,
and that is really hard.
And then obviously try some
double-unders and stuff like that.
But, yeah,
it's all about timing and stuff.
Rashad wants me to ask about
your pregame warm-up dances.
I know all about those.
Yeah, he knows.
He knows.
Everybody knows that knows Hattie.
A little bit of Disney,
a little bit of G-Eazy.
That's all you need.
And then enough chalk on
your hand to leave a
handprint on your ass
before every lifting event.
Yep.
A hundred percent.
It was funny yesterday.
I was on Thursday.
I was coaching and one of the guys said,
Hey, were you cleaning earlier?
And I was like, Oh yeah, I was.
He's like, yeah,
I know because you have
slap marks on your butt.
Oh, okay.
It's like, how did you know that?
Make me laugh.
And then I cough.
Sometimes you just got to
slap your own butt, you know?
Sometimes.
That's just what it takes to
get through a day.
Yeah.
And do a little dance, of course.
Yeah.
I did that this morning at ten a.m.
just to get through a meeting.
Did a little dance or slapped your butt?
Butt.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah.
It just gave me enough
energy to get through that.
It really does.
It just shocks the system all of a sudden.
Whoa, hello.
Okay.
Try it out, everybody.
But, you know.
sorry it's better when I
have my wife do it oh of
course um when is hattie
upgrading her phone I don't
think it's her phone I
think it's just no he's
talking about when I was on
um kill taylor I think are
you talking about that
jeremy because I have an
android I get it all my
family hates me because I
have an android but I'm not
switching so give it a rest
I forgot you tried to kill Taylor.
Did you have fun?
Yeah, it was fun.
I knew it was going to be a really,
really hard one to beat him
because there was ring muscle-ups.
Like, I am good at ring muscle-ups,
just not under that much fatigue.
So, yeah, it was fine.
I wish I would have done the
Toast of our Snatch one
that he had a few weeks prior,
the Ariel Lowen one,
because that one would have
been a lot of fun.
But I'll try it again sometime.
It's a cool concept.
I love that they do that.
was watching and I saw you
pop on and I immediately
texted tristan and him and
I were texting back and
forth um like we have a
shot can she do it and he's
like it's gonna have to be
like a perfect day for her
to pull it off yeah and it
was not those ring
muscle-ups got hard real
quick yeah that happened to
not just you a lot of
people yeah taylor's just
really good at muscle-ups oh he's insane
And just someone in your corner, T-Bird,
Android is the way.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm talking about.
Well, Hattie,
I've kept you for an hour and
we like to not do that more than an hour.
I'm going to let you go,
but thank you so much for
helping me get back on the horse,
interviewing athletes.
This was awesome.
And as always, I learned so much from you.
I appreciate you so much.
And I'm glad that you asked
me because I've been waiting,
but I haven't wanted to
push or anything either.
So I'm just really happy
that we got to chat.
Um, yeah.
So with that,
thank you so much for being here.
We'll stay in touch of course.
And I'm sure you'll be back
on the show in no time.
Um, with that, everybody,
thank you for being here
and being so participatory in the chat.
It was awesome having you
guys here tonight and we'll
see everybody next time on
Clydesdale interviews.
Bye guys.