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Hear me out. Generally, homophobia. What do I think about homophobia? I kind of think [Music] is a topic that I know that a lot of us want to talk about, but we just don't want to talk about it. I can't even recall a day I came out to say, "Oh, this is what I like. That is not what I don't like." Funniest part is that they people just see like a photo of you. You've not even moved. They actually cursing you the out based on whatever they think is going on in their head. They say nasty and vulgar things like ah they don't bust this one, they don't do that one that. These are things people do. Like people just automatically love you, lust over you, or dislike you and want you dead just because of if in your head you feel like you're a guy but you're a baby in your body. You have to mentally, believe me, parents teach their children to be homophobic, to dish hatred, to say nasty things to people who present themselves in a different way. Do you think that for children who are exposed to like um LGBTQ education like in nursery and primary, do you think that that could in one way or the other influence their sexuality? Yes, it can. I disagree. And I'll tell you how. Hey people, welcome back to a brand new episode of Just My POV. Just the last week were millennials coming at us for having like main character energy. Like, sorry, we love ourselves. Self love or self delusion, please. Anyways, if you guys missed it, make sure that you go watch it. Now, let's get into today's topic. Today's topic is a nice blend of should I say it has a lot of sense and small violence. Not too not too crazy. Something like that. Yeah, exactly. But I mean it's a topic that I know that a lot of us want to talk about but we just don't want to talk about it. But right here on just my POV we talk about everything and we share it with you guys so that you know you can get a bit more insight. So let's head on straight into it. Right. This one is I mean it's a big question that a lot of parents have been complaining about, but I just want to ask it since we're both young and you know just to get what you think about it. [Music] [Music] So, do you think that LGBTQ education is okay in kindergarten or like nursery schools? Um I think it's fair. I think it's fair that um everybody on earth gets to be informed about certain things, especially topics related to like the LGBTQ, right? But at the same time, I feel like specific pieces of information shouldn't be given to people like people in like nursery school, primary school. I mean because even those of us who eventually find out about our sexuality is really never when you are 2 years old, three years old, there's no way you have like like a sexual feeling like it's usually when you're experiencing your like you're like at your puberty stage if you understand what I mean. So no, is it a yes or no? feel I think it's okay right for people in no to be taught to love one another regardless their differences and this has nothing to do with whether you are attracted to a man or a woman but isn't that like CRK yeah you know because part of it is love you know I don't think I don't think people in nursery should be taught um LGBTQ education That's my primary question. Maybe primary maybe. That's my simple question maybe because I also personally I feel like that isn't the time to introduce sexual urges and desires. That isn't the period at that time when you're playing with your colleagues or like your friends. You're not trying to say I'm getting aroused at that point. That's not in your mind. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. And and if you don't teach sex education to in infants or kindergarten or nursery students, why are you trying to teach LGBTQ education then at the same time it's kind of contradictory but before we even go too far into it, let me just highlight what LGBTQ is, plus is. So, it's an acronym that represents lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer individuals with a plus signifying other sexual orientations and gender identities within the community. It's a term used to encompass a wide range of identities beyond the traditional categories of heterosexual and cisgender. Now um having knowing this it's kind of like you you know that your kids haven't grown into puberty where they already have these sexual desires but then you are introducing them into this other pattern of desire without introducing them into the other one. So I think that is a very one-sided thing and it really shouldn't be taught in kindergarten or anything. Maybe when they're like in secondary or like mature, when they start to have relationships, boyfriend and girlfriend or start to have interest for the opposite sex or the same sex, then you can now say that at that time that you want to introduce it. I don't personally I don't agree with the idea. Yeah. But the only reason why I think I say I agree is because you know just like every topic or like every subject that they introduce in schools there's a there's like u there's like a scheme right introduction and even the introduction is they sh they dish out this information in a way that your brain is able to carry it do you understand? So, I don't think letting little kids understand that, okay, there's this small boy, he acts like a girl. Well, you don't have to say it because, you know, there's a possibility that this, there's a possibility that that, you know, you can never even really be sure because people's character dispositions really doesn't even determine their sexuality. But at the same time at such a stage believe me parents teach their children to be homophobic to dish hatred to say nasty things to people who present themselves in a different way. So why would you rather promote hate as against promoting love and peace? So I feel like people in like the nursery school, even if you're going to introduce the topic as maybe LGBTQ education, things you should teach them there should be things like um um individuality, no bullying, respect. That is not an LG topic. Yeah, that's not an undergraduction. Come on. there's moral instruction. No, it shouldn't be under that. First of all, I don't even know about any parents who are teaching their kids teaching to be hateful to other kids. First of all, secondly, at that age, you don't even see the difference in whether the guy is doing girl or is doing. At that age, you're just playing with your friends. You just like your friends. You're just doing things. You're not really It's the adults that go ahead to put those crazy ideas in the kids. And it's us and it's all these adults that are trying to promote their own personal gain because at that time you're not thinking about that. No parents comes and says you know what be wicked to all your class. No parent does that. Is all these other people that have ulterior motives. And that is why the idea of teaching LGBTQ education to infants is totally wrong. It's the wrong timing. And in as much as you're saying oh that they should be taught love, there's moral instruction. There's social studies. there is PE. There are courses that really do teach that teaching LGBTQ is for you to arrange their mind into a pattern that is unacceptable and could be unacceptable to them as well when they grow older. Okay. So, that leaves me wondering, do you think that for children who are exposed to like um LGBTQ education like in nursery and primary, do you think that that could in one way or the other influence their sexuality? Yes, it can. I disagree. And I'll tell you how. Okay. So like for instance, if you have like a like a teacher that is teaching that course and that teacher is so nice to you, you like the teacher because the teacher is nice. The teacher is always listening. You tend to take up a thing or two or pick up a thing or two from that teacher. It influences what you might like. But then when you now grow older, you might not realize I didn't really like it. I just liked that my teacher. So I just emulated XYZ stuff from that teacher. Hence the reason that's not the right time. The right time is when the kids already can identify that oh this is what I'm into or this or I've started to like this girl in my class. So so you get maybe that is now the good time to say okay so it's okay for you to feel like this because some people there are some people who are your tribe who are also like this. But then trying to introduce it to a child that doesn't yet know whether you want go like this, go left or go right is kind of like you trying to steer their brain into a pattern that is favorable to you and not them. Okay? Give them the chance to figure out their lives. So I the reason I disagree is not because of it can't exactly influence them. I disagree because I feel like people's sexualities, people do not get to choose their sexuality at the end of the day. We're talking about even people who are like abused, right? And the reason I say this is because I just feel somewhere inside of me that sex is appealing or is disgusting. Like it either works for you or it does not. And that's the reason why if people could choose, I feel like people who maybe are hated for their sexuality or something would easily just make a quick fix fix, you know. But then I think like learn to be straight. You can fix you, you know. That's why I'm saying that it's not something you can learn, but I know that it's something that can unlock doors that should not have been opened at all because you're going to be curious about the essence of teaching if you're straight or not when you're so young. So, what's the essence of teaching it if it can't be taught? That's why I said the timing. That's why I said they shouldn't teach them about anything sexreated. But they can make they can condition or tune their mind in a way that they are more accepting of other people who just behave different in their class. They already do. They are kids. Kids don't care. Truly they don't care that much. They don't care that much actually. So it's unnecessary. Like so in my opinion it's just an ulterior motive and somebody just trying to play smart and trying to bring out like create more and more following for that community. There's no need for that. That community grew by itself and nobody was teaching any education at the time when anybody even started that process and is still growing. It's just how you are when you eventually figure out your sexuality. Yeah. I think at the end of the day they should just scrap it teach from people who are younger kindergarten and nursery. Save it for people in like secondary school. Adolescent. Yeah. Leave that. Uh-huh. Actually, cuz they finally have like the brain to process it, manage it. Yeah. You can't just be telling somebody, "Oh, it's okay to like a guy when I never even begin like the guy." Like as a guy like yourself. Exactly. So, it's And it's so confusing. And it's also so confusing because, you know, you have these teachers that come in and they just want to dress how they want to dress and be identified how they want and that's fine. That's their that's them. But then you now come into school and then you know when you're teaching like A B C you also teach boy and girl then in teaching that the confusion is there already. Oh like when they have like non-binary Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So the confusion is already there and their brain is so little to Yeah. to start to be confusing them there. So chill when they've grown somehow start to teach them the other things. It's kind of like the same way we all grew up to now figure out how to make money and how to work and what you learn in school. Even people in the community are unable to even dissect a lot of Exactly. Already as adults, how much more children? So, it's a lot. That's just crazy. Anyways, you were going to ask me another question and I've been waiting for that question for some reason. Um, so I was going to ask you what your general take on homophobia is. Like what's your general take on homophobia? What do you think about homophobia? Do you think it's is normal or natural for people to be homophobic? Do you think it's okay for people to be homophobic? It's not okay. Think about it generally. It's not okay, but it's natural. It's a natural feeling that comes to you, especially because it is something that you do not understand. Something that doesn't seem normal in a in the in our lives coming from all the generations that we've come from all the way till here. It's here that we're trying to normalize, you know, um, homosexuality of any kind or querness of any kind. This is the time when we're trying to normalize it. It's been there. Exactly. It's been there. So, it's only natural for people to be like, hm. Or like squeeze their face or be like, I don't I don't subscribe to that because it's something new. But I don't think that it is a good thing because every human being has the right to exist. However they want to live their life is their personal life. It's their personal decision. It has nothing to do with you or me. It's not my my punani. It's not my you get me. It's none of my So you can do whatever you want to do with your parts with your body parts. You have every right to. And you also have the right to allow me to receive you in any way that I can receive you. Yeah. Yeah. So homophobia is natural, but it isn't okay because you cannot just say, "Oh, I hate this person, you know, or I hate that person." But then this has now brought me to a thought that I've always been thinking about. What's that? And that is I wonder why it is that you know how you're a guy or you're a person. I'm a person. The things that make me who I am are a lot of things like my life story, my experiences, my talents, the way that I think. That's what sums you up. That's what sums me up as a person and you also at the same time. But I wonder why it is that homosexual or like the que community want to be identified by their sexual kink or prowess or see that's what it is. That's where I'm just a little bit like so I don't know where to start from. If I'm going to start from like discussing homophobia or I'll talk about this, but let me start from here, right? I don't I feel like people in the world try to define you by whatever they think you're sleeping with. Especially when you act different. No, especially when you act different. Because if I use if I use me as an example, I can't even recall a day I came out to say, "Oh, this is what I like. That is not what I don't like." Funniest part is that the people just see like a photo of you. You've not even moved. Mhm. They actually cursing you the [ __ ] out based on whatever they think is going on in their head. They say nasty and vulgar things like, "Ah, they don't bust this one, this, they don't do that one, that." These are things people do. Like people just automatically love you, lust over you, or dislike you, and want you dead just because of the way they think you live your life. Do you understand? It's like, it's like if people could look at people for people, not who they might be under the sheets with, it would be better. But here, hear me out. Generally, homophobia. What do I think about homophobia? I kind of think is natural, right? I kind of think it's natural, but then I I'm not supporting hate or anything, but I feel like for anybody who doesn't who is not exactly queer, for like a straight person, a heterosexual man who is, you know, doing his his own thing, I feel it's okay for him to, you know, disagree with people who are queer, right? And when I mean disagree, I mean like he just doesn't agree with who they might be getting laid with or whatever is normal. After all, you're straight. That's the reason you're straight. Things like that are supposed to irk you, right? But at the same time, you also don't have to agree with them. You also don't have to be in the same room with them. You don't have to. You might even hate them. It's okay. But there are better ways to manage the way you feel. You should be able to excuse yourself from such a gathering of people you do not like. Remember these people do not have a problem with you, you have a problem with them, right? So if they knew that, yeah, if there's like um there are like three quer people walk into a gathering and they like maybe mainly heterosexual men here, you might see them behave in some type of way so that they will notice that they notice their presence and probably they are irked by them. That's unnecessary. Wait, hang on a minute. You said if there were like they're like three straight guys, queer guys walk into a gathering where they are. Mind you, I know that all queer people don't have problem with people who are straight. They actually never have problem with straight people. So now you walk into somewhere where they are straight people, you agree with them, you understand the concept of their sexuality. Hence, you're comfortable around them. But here's the thing. You can't tell who is uncomfortable by whatever they think your sexuality is. So I feel like for people who are uncomfortable about other people's sexuality and they should find better ways to manage it. You don't need to bully people. You don't need to throw hate speech. You don't need to make them uncomfortable in a gathering. You can excuse yourself. It's so tied to that's your neck or you know. really my thought about that is it's funny that you're it's funny that that's how you're seeing it in terms of when like queer people come into a gathering and that you feel like the straight people always give them attitude. Okay. So like they want to be noticed so bad. Like they can scream things like um auntie, you know, it's it's now now let me let me pick this. That is a Niger Nigerian thing. That's a Nigerian thing. Exactly. First of all, that thing that you just said now is Yeah. Because they do that find even when a babe that's just going on her own, that's a Nigerian thing. That's one part of it. And that one everybody suffers it. Even a guy that comes as buff like this once he enter somebody will say hm something like bouncer something like Torino and they will keep doing that. So that's not that's not special to the LGBTQ community. No that's just a Nigerian lifestyle that people just like to tease you and laugh at you. Me too. Like when you were saying that oh people just watch you because of the way that you look and then they already start to judge you. I have a lot of people who have thought that oh it's like this pale or you are kind of swinging and they almost and they almost want to force me to be this person even when I'm like no I'm not they still want to shove it down my throat like they like you you you you are and that one is just I mean you're supposed to already know that you are who you are regardless of what the world may think. I just generally feel like the fight for the LGBTQ community is not needed. There is no need to fight for it. Personally, I feel like if you if you're if you're into that, you're into that. And that's all right. You will still drink water. Rain will still fall, sun will still shine on you. You will still go to parties, but you just go to your own party, your own type of parties or parties that you are accepted. trying to trying to say that oh I must accept. Now the part that really gets me confused that really really confuses me is when somebody comes out and maybe says for instance I identify as a kitten but I see you as a human being as a human. I'm seeing you as a human being. I respect that you want to be identified as a kitten. I respect that. Yeah, but you cannot now fault me for how I accept it. I respect it, but how I accept it, you can't fault me and say why are you not accepting it completely. So sometimes I might want to address you and I wouldn't want to say meow and want to say bro because naturally that's just my default mindset. But you would take offense by my calling you and say I already told you I'm a kitten, bro. chill. You need It's baby steps. I will get used to it eventually, but just give me the time. But I don't think that the community gives, you know, the general public the Yeah. the grace to be able to, oh, I've made a mistake. Oh, let me adjust. A lot of people just take it so personally and it's kind of like it's a lot for people who aren't so used to these new communities and ideas. It takes a lot for us to get used to it. just like a lot of people also say like autism and ADHD they they have a short attention span but you guys can give them grace for not being able to follow up but you can't give straight people grace for not being able to follow up just so generally I feel like when it comes to identities identities I feel like we as human beings is okay to judge people based off of what we think they look like judging a book by judge. No, when I say judging a book by it cover, I mean, for instance, a man who dresses like a woman but looks like a man like has big back, you know, masculine distinct masculine features, you automatically would just call him her. I mean, he you understand? But you can't be confused if he look like that. If he tells you that, no, I'm a lady. I feel like if you respect the individual, right, you just want to refer to them in a way that Yeah. that they will be comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I said that generally I respect it. I'm, you know, I'm not I'm not homophobic. I'm not anything. I have a lot I have people who are like whatever they are. I have so many. Yeah. I really don't even care about it. But sometimes I might just make a mistake. I usually don't make a mistake because I make conscious efforts to always especially when I'm dealing with somebody who is you know of that nature. I make conscious efforts to be like oh you know take pay more attention but then it's hectic because I find that when I now go I'm like and that's not fair. It also makes me be like under tension as well as the person I'm having to address too to also be under tension like you know in having to it now makes me and I I just feel like it takes away from my friendship with them and I don't like that. It makes me feel so bad when I go home or when I'm driving. I'm like I want to really have like a real where I'm not under so much pressure in how to handle you or how to say something to you. But then it's just a community that they are your friends. They supposed to understand that above any everything you love them genuinely and you don't have a problem with them. So I feel like they should have they will be a little more lenient. Oh, but that [ __ ] is like I think but having to put you in Yeah. In that place it always you know it's uncomfortable is so stressful. But anyways I feel like this conversation that we've had today is very enlightening especially Oh okay. You wanted to say something. Yeah. Go on. So um there there's been like so many stories of people who transitioned at such an early stage in their life. You have people who transitioned at age seven. People who transition Yeah. Actually age seven, age 13, you know, all of these things. They already started hormone replacement therapy and all of that, right? What do you think? What are you going to do if you were a parent and and you just guessed that your kid is a certain way or maybe your kid came to you and said um maybe I'm this you understand what I mean? I get what you mean actually go to their parents at that age. Of course they would feel it, but they can. In all honesty, for people who have like gender dysphoras from like very early stages, you prefer more feminine things than masculine things like maybe female dresses, you enter, you wear your mommy's wig, you know, all those kind of things, right? But do you think it's okay for them to start taking hormone replacement therapy and change like their um, you know, their gender, genitals? No, no, not their gen genitals. I don't think we would do that early cuz they're not fully formed. Formed I know right. So what do you think? So personally first of all your parents already know right before you even think that you are figuring your parents already know that it's like this child. It's like you are doing you want to go to this other place. Your parents always know because they gave birth to you. They taught you everything you know. They've been baffing you and seeing you naked. So they know first of all before you even speak. Now secondly at such a tender age of seven and whatnot if you like to wear dresses sometimes your parents can allow you to wear a dress or buy a dress that is like um androgenous. Yeah. Androgenous outfits for you at that time at that age so that when you now grow older you can fully choose. I know that when I was in primary and secondary school, I don't know what sex is. No, I don't even know when when I when I'm taking a shower and I'm washing my pom pom, I'm not feeling around the signal like it doesn't send anything to your hair. I'm feeling the soap or the pepper of the soap. I'm not feeling this. I'm not thinking about that. So clearly I know that that is not the time to introduce that. And even though your kid says, "Oh, I think I like." Don't worry. You are thinking like it's a thought because when you grow older, yeah, it's honestly just a thought. When you grow older, you'll figure out that, oh, this is really what you want. And at that time, you and I, we sit down and plan and strategize how we want to go about it, how best it will, you know, favor you and favor me as well. I'm not about to put any of my infant kids who haven't even yet known right from left who haven't even figured out what their life or their ambitions are and then I'll now go and be telling you no you are you are like a girl or you you are like a boy. No no some parents actually even selfishly none of that change the gender of their kids from the hospital cuz I've actually seen a story of a lady who actually change gender of her child because when they were circumcising the boy there was like an error or something something something like that so she thought she was doing this to help the child. So the child actually lived a very straight girl's life but was actually a boy and always wondered why she was never connected to boys because you know she didn't like boys he's a boy she liked girls but then was functioning weird because she never even had a period and then the shape doesn't even look like other girls on it was a lot it was honestly a lot so now doesn't this take us back to what I said when I say adults with their selfish reasons, selfish needs to try and you know program and reposition. I beg you are not good. My general take I don't think that parents at all. I don't think that anybody below the age of I don't even think 16 is a very good age to transition. You know why? Because even if you're someone who has like dysphoria, believe me, dysphoria come and they go. They come and they go. They come and they go and eventually you're sure that this is what you want to do. You need to take enough time to know that this journey is this is what I'm following. And that's why we have people who did the transition because you thought you were going to experience life in a certain way only to realize that there are certain things, you know, this way and some people are just fluid. They feel like they want to identify as men today and then they want to identify as women tomorrow. And then you now do bagati. You rush your child. Speak to your child in one box. And now your child feels inadequate. Doesn't make any sense. Anybody who wants to transition, take your time. Be sure. Try small. Maybe change your dress sense. Maybe wear more. Maybe wear makeup. Express yourself in those type of ways that you want. But don't make permanent changes until you're sure. Until you're grown. Grown. Grown. You're grown and you're sure. And you're sure. Nothing below 18. Not 16. No. Because many 16 year olds have mental problems. Yes. You only think you want it. You actually don't. Mhm. You know, even some 18 to be honest, some truly they still some 21. The only reason why I'm saying 18 is that maturity just varies. Men who want to transition into women after 18 years old when you've experienced um those changes like you know there are different changes in the life of a man. There's when you you um like the the pick for people is usually when they 18. You're like fully formed on the inside somehow and then your shoulders start getting broader, your jawline, your beards. You need to transition before this time. If not, you'll be needing like all the female face feminization procedures because most people used to rush. You see that 18 years old it must do. way to in my own opinion even like an 18 years old mentally you have not you have not even grown mentally I don't the truth is the truth is and you need your mental health your mental health is the real reason behind whatever transition or whatever decisions you make your mental health is really where everything starts begins and continues so it's like if in your head you feel like you're a guy but you're a in your body, you have to mentally be sure that that's exactly how you feel before you transition. So, in as much as your body, you might have broader shoulders, you might have this, you might have that, and you're like, "Oh, let me be quick and let me change it to a girl before I fully form." What if when you are now like 21, just like two or three years later, you're not like, "Okay, no, I don't like this girl's lives. Ah, these girls, they used to suffer. See the way man just they push out. See the way this man just took advantage of this guy." And then you want to change. So at 18, although I know that that's like a legal age, but in my personal opinion, I think that you should just get to 21. Yeah. For girls, if you want to do transition is it's difficult because your voice will never change. Yes. But they always pretend. It will be. No, but for the girls, they become they sound like men and it will never go. But haven't you heard those guys? They'll be like, "Yeah." And then they say, "Come on, nigga." No, that's fun. Yeah, that's so much fun. So that's what I mean and that's what I mean when I say that's what I mean when I say that there's even no need for that because they changed their voice. They always doing well guys it's been so amazing hanging with you guys and just my POV I've had an absolutely amazing time talking about this whole que situation and it's kind of like I've now let it off my chest. So my friends my qu friends that watched it now be kinder be nicer. Yeah, just be a little She loves you. It's not I really do love you guys, but I don't know. It's just a bit tense to always have to deal with, you know, say the right words and not make a mistake and oh Lord. But anyways, I hope that also if you're just watching this and you know you've also had a few questions, I hope we've been able to answer them for you. If you're thinking of transitioning and you're like a young, please, I beg you, please just wait. Just wait a little bit longer. Just wait. And the weight is not because you are unsure of what you are doing. No, it's just so that you are very very sure that you're not going to turn around in the next couple years. All right, until next time guys. Catch you later.