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It’s Episode 191 of THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL, and it’s another PATREON PICK! We’ll be covering the cult Disney movie THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS (1980) starring BETTE DAVIS! Elsewhere, in our new new segment POP FICTION, we discuss the NINJA-CRAZE of the 80’s & 90’s!!! So tune in, download, listen, like, comment, and share!! AND STAY OUT OF THE WOODS!!!
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Gav: The podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.
Intro: So
Intro: this
Intro: Michael.
Intro: Be
Intro: one of us.
Intro: I didn't tell you my name, hang
Intro: up.
Intro: I didn't tell you my name.
Intro: It is time to keep your appointment.
Gav: Hello and welcome to the podcast on Haunted Hill
Gav: episode number
Dan: 190.
Gav: 91.
Gav: See, I had no idea.
Gav: 191.
Gav: We've just been prepping the show for the past half.
Gav: Half an hour and I didn't even ask what number show it was.
Gav: Anyway, my name is
Gav: if it's backwards it'd be Vag, but it's not, it's Gav!
Dan: Well, my name is Dan and if it was backwards it would be Nad, which is uh
Dan: Imagine
Dan: a British
Dan: pr
Dan: Nads
Dan: are British slang
Dan: for
Dan: Testicles.
Dan: So
Dan: I am
Dan: a singular testicle and you I
Dan: bagged a vagina.
Gav: Could be a vagina.
Gav: And still
Gav: and still
Gav: the anagram of my name is Vagina
Gav: Hero, which is really random, and that is true.
Gav: Absolutely
Gav: 100%
Gav: true.
Gav: The only anagram my name,
Gav: full name, is
Gav: So
Dan: he's the vagina hero
Dan: this city needs
Dan: under.
Gav: Anyway, that's a weird one.
Gav: We're back everybody
Gav: as you can tell
Gav: straight away we're talking about nads and vaginas.
Gav: This is uh
Gav: not a Halloween episode, but it is upon us.
Gav: the spooky season of October, isn't it Daniel?
Gav: Mm
Dan: it is indeed, yes.
Dan: Um
Dan: we are very
Dan: uh
Dan: autumnal, very full, very
Dan: Halloweeny.
Dan: My house has already got a few little Halloween
Dan: decorations up.
Dan: We'll get more into that in a minute, but we've already started well I've already started to make
Dan: 31 days of Halloween.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Um
Dan: and a lot of our listeners and followers on Facebook are posting
Dan: what they're watching.
Dan: Um obviously we'll save a lot of the excitement for our Halloween
Dan: episode.
Dan: This is more of a comeback episode.
Dan: Like LL Call
Dan: J
Dan: said, don't call it a comeback.
Dan: We've been here for years.
Dan: 13 years in fact.
Dan: Because today
Dan: is, weirdly, exactly 13 years to the day that Gav and I shared uh a hotel room together and conceived the idea of doing a podcast.
Gav: I don't remember those lyrics from that
Gav: local
Gav: J
Gav: song.
Dan: That was the remix
Dan: without
Dan: with
Dan: Pete
Dan: Diddy.
Dan: Um
Dan: there
Gav: was no lovemaking in the hotel, Daniel uh
Gav: we were m uh
Gav: we were mentally lovemaking with words of horror
Dan: We were actually writing a script.
Dan: We met a way
Dan: to work together.
Gav: We we were
Gav: we'd had some beers and we were lying in bed and it was dark
Gav: And we were just fucking talking for about two hours about horror movies.
Gav: And
Gav: you were like, we should fucking record this.
Gav: And I was like, yeah, probably should, shouldn't we?
Gav: It was like a uh an episode.
Gav: It was just like
Gav: this is
Gav: I dunno, it works.
Dan: If only I knew someone
Dan: I said
Dan: who had sound production equipment and audio equipment and did it as part of their
Dan: hobby
Dan: slash
Dan: Career.
Gav: Yeah, uh it was very
Gav: good.
Gav: It's very easy to do
Gav: actually because I knew audio stuff, but I had never podcast, but I knew microphones, etcetera, etcetera.
Gav: I'd like to say nowadays, uh
Gav: funny enough stuff,
Gav: still using the exact same Zoom H
Gav: 4N recorder which you can pick up now
Gav: second hand for about 70 quid.
Gav: I'm still using that as our recorder
Gav: and it still works fine.
Gav: Um I was thinking of getting a bigger one actually with
Gav: actual faders and stuff
Gav: and some
Gav: little buttons where we can pr
Gav: I can press the uh
Gav: Little
Gav: s uh the
Gav: little
Gav: you know little
Dan: Yeah
Dan: like
Dan: sound effects and stuff.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: I mean
Dan: it took me twelve years to buy a mic
Dan: a decent mic microphone.
Gav: I did
Gav: you better use it because
Gav: I've got one
Gav: I
Dan: know.
Dan: Well that's the other thing I was gonna say.
Dan: So
Dan: thirteen years, unlucky for some.
Dan: Um
Dan: so that means that when we get to our
Dan: Christmas episode, that will be our thirteenth anniversary officially, 'cause our first ever episode was a Christmas episode.
Dan: Um
Dan: however, obviously this is our thirteenth year.
Dan: podcasting and it has been a slightly unlucky podcast with regards to you
Dan: lovely listeners because you haven't had very many episodes this year and I do apologise
Dan: for that.
Dan: Uh
Dan: not to get into it too much, but everybody knows
Dan: sadly
Dan: I lost my dad
Dan: uh
Dan: Boxing Day 2025.
Dan: That was pretty tough.
Dan: That's why not a lot of output happened at the beginning of the year.
Dan: Then we started getting back on track.
Dan: We did a couple of episodes here and there.
Dan: However I
Dan: I am now in the process of well I've just moved
Dan: house.
Dan: Just bought a new house.
Dan: I'm gonna go have um
Gav: basically
Gav: likes to throw
Gav: All the most stressful things together, uh
Gav: obviously it's not
Gav: by choice at times, but buying a house, you know, and yeah, to throw it all together and go
Gav: right, I'm gonna fucking just t
Gav: attack it all at once.
Dan: Yeah, I mean
Dan: I'll be brutally honest with with
Dan: I said to Gaboff Air listeners, um, you know, I got married
Dan: my
Dan: mum passed away six days before I got married, so that was like uh one of life's hugest
Dan: you know, terrible things that can happen mixed with one of the best things that can happen to you
Dan: all
Dan: in a week.
Dan: And then this year I've lost my dad but I've also bought my dream home.
Dan: Like
Dan: it's a beautiful house.
Dan: I'm currently in
Dan: pretty much a little recording booth
Dan: really.
Dan: It's just fantastic.
Dan: It's got three floors, three toilets, in case I need to do three shits.
Dan: Um
Dan: and I love it.
Gav: So
Gav: if you
Gav: start in one
Gav: Snip it off a little
Gav: upstairs
Gav: carry on and see if you can get a trimester
Gav: trimester
Gav: try
Gav: try something
Gav: Of uh uh toilet poop in
Gav: triumph.
Gav: I'd think it'd be a
Gav: poop in each toilet.
Dan: Well I'll have to explain to Alice where there was a brain a brain trail um going
Dan: up the stairs.
Dan: But
Dan: um
Dan: Yeah, so I'm also currently in the process of preparing my dad's estate and his house to sell.
Dan: So that in itself is quite emotionally heavy and stressful.
Dan: Hence why I haven't really been in the mindset to record.
Dan: So
Dan: Thank you.
Dan: I really want to extend genuine thank you to firstly
Dan: to Gav
Dan: for always checking in on me
Dan: and some of my close friends, Icon
Dan: Jay and other guys
Dan: But but also to some of you listeners and patrons who've also sent me private messages.
Dan: But also just generally to everybody
Dan: for sticking with the Facebook page, following us, patrons still supporting in a monetary fashion
Dan: and then
Dan: stick in with us
Dan: because
Dan: you seem to understand that sometimes life life just gets in the way and um
Dan: yeah it certainly has for me this year
Dan: so that's our thirteenth year of podcasting
Dan: hopefully
Dan: moving into
Dan: our 14th
Dan: year
Dan: Next year, things will be on the up.
Dan: We'll be bringing out a show every week.
Dan: We'll be the new Joe Rogans of podcasting.
Dan: Um
Dan: and you know
Dan: Things will be on the up.
Gav: I'm not sure uh
Gav: shaking his head.
Gav: Yeah, not sure in the hemisphere anymore, which should be a Joe Rogan style podcast or
Dan: No, maybe
Dan: maybe not Joe Rogan.
Gav: Which is a such a shame because I used to listen to him a lot.
Gav: Um uh
Gav: uh
Gav: I s
Gav: you know, I still do enjoy the alien
Gav: stuff
Gav: he gets on and talk about because it's a good place to hear some of the people he gets on because they don't go on other shows.
Gav: But
Gav: uh
Gav: I've
Gav: kind of
Gav: the restaurant's a bit cold.
Dan: Imagine coming out of a coma and saying, oh yeah, I've been been in a coma for five years.
Dan: Yeah, how are you, right?
Dan: Yeah, yeah.
Dan: Can I get some Joe Rogan?
Dan: Oh, you might not want to listen to him
Dan: that that much anymore.
Dan: Oh, no worries.
Dan: Where's my P Diddy
Dan: C D?
Dan: Oh
Dan: I wouldn't listen to that.
Dan: Oh
Dan: okay, can I grab that
Dan: can I grab that R.
Dan: Kelly one?
Dan: No.
Gav: I was uh
Gav: yeah, uh
Gav: this
Gav: corner shop was going by and I could see this dude looking at DVDs outside this shop and I was like fuck it.
Gav: So I quickly swung in, just pulled up on
Gav: some double yellows and all
Gav: and it is a house clearance.
Gav: place.
Gav: So I
Gav: quickly had a quick look there and I
Gav: went for the vinyl and I found a Jimmy Savile
Gav: record.
Gav: Oh
Dan: Wow.
Dan: Was it twelve inch?
Gav: I'm not even gonna get into
Gav: it.
Gav: But
Gav: anyway
Dan: eight inch.
Gav: It was a Jimmy.
Gav: So yeah.
Gav: Anyway, we're back again though, so thanks for staying with us
Gav: is what Dan was saying and um
Gav: uh sorry for the
Gav: everything you've had to go for
Gav: Dan
Gav: life's
Gav: what
Gav: life's thrown at you and the emotions you've had to endure with it.
Gav: But you're doing well, my friend, you're doing well, and I feel this is a good way for you to have a
Gav: therapy through talking horror
Gav: with with Buddy Gav
Dan: Indeed, no, thank you.
Dan: And
Dan: just to you've already clicked the show so you know what the episode is, but this it is a
Dan: Um
Dan: this is the lovely
Dan: Holly's pick who
Dan: I do apologize, Holly, you picked this quite a long time ago.
Gav: Sorry.
Dan: And
Dan: actually back back in the days when our format was too
Dan: um
Dan: two movies back to back.
Dan: Obviously we've reduced that down
Dan: for the time being to just one movie review per per show.
Dan: So originally um
Dan: you
Dan: picked a Betty Davies
Dan: uh
Dan: double bill
Dan: of
Dan: uh The Watcher in the Woods, which is the movie that we're covering.
Dan: Um I did check with Holly and she was happy with that.
Dan: Uh and it was gonna be paired up with Brunt Offerings, which we may cover in the future.
Dan: It's a great movie.
Dan: Um
Dan: but we are going to be covering the 1980 Slack.
Dan: 1981 and I'll get into why that is when we get to it because
Dan: there was a weird thing that happened with this movie when it got released
Dan: and that's the reason it will never be on Disney Plus.
Dan: But this is Disney's probably only horror movie.
Dan: Um
Dan: And it is obviously child-friendly, because it was like a PG, but
Dan: the Watcher
Dan: in the Woods were Betty Davies
Dan: and David McCallum
Dan: from The Man from
Dan: Uncle
Dan: or The Invisible Man
Dan: TV show and all that business.
Dan: So we will be covering that
Dan: In this episode, but as we like to do.
Dan: We want to
Dan: catch up on where we
Dan: Oh
Dan: Well
Dan: you were talking about the PD
Dan: Pie.
Dan: Uh
Dan: we're gonna catch up on what we've been doing, what we've been watching, and where we've been, where we
Dan: Now
Dan: in the world
Dan: and
Dan: other
Dan: events that have happened.
Gav: Uh well, uh
Gav: uh
Gav: I've watched lots of things since we last podcast, so I'm not gonna
Gav: I started
Gav: got to this point
Gav: as I said
Gav: Sarah,
Gav: not
Gav: gonna bother carry on filling this list.
Gav: It's it's huge and n none of this I'll remember.
Gav: I have
Gav: any
Gav: no memory of this.
Gav: At least two months have passed and I've got no memory
Gav: Uh
Gav: uh
Gav: we did
Gav: Sarah and I feel
Gav: I feel
Gav: not I wouldn't have mentioned it because I've been podcasting.
Gav: Sarah and I did uh recently
Gav: watch a movie and we got to a certain point and we're like
Gav: fucking
Gav: seen this haven't we?
Gav: Like
Gav: Seems familiar.
Gav: No, I don't think so.
Gav: And I was like, we fucking said
Gav: it was Clint
Gav: Eastwood movie.
Gav: It was Clint Eastwood movie.
Gav: Oh, I thought it was the end
Gav: of Juror.
Gav: Juror
Gav: number two, I think it is.
Gav: We're watching that and it got to and I was
Gav: and I was
Gav: actually even spoke to my mum that day and said, Oh what are you up to?
Gav: And I said, Oh, it's a Sunday afternoon, sir, and I'm gonna cozy
Gav: up and watch like a Clint Eastwood's court
Gav: drum drama movie because it's a sort of Sunday afternoon thing
Gav: And I was
Gav: I'm looking really
Gav: looking forward to it and I was generally
Gav: looking forward to it and put it on and I was like
Gav: fuck it
Gav: We've seen it and I've
Gav: I was like
Gav: how
Gav: could we have both forgotten this?
Gav: It's not it's not an old film either so we must have watched it fairly recently
Gav: but
Gav: So
Gav: my list isn't huge be
Gav: well it
Gav: was but I cut it off because I was
Gav: what's the fucking point?
Gav: I don't remember any of it.
Gav: Um
Gav: I'll tell you one thing very quickly before we get into the list something
Gav: did happen which I had to mention because it's
Gav: amusing is
Gav: it
Gav: involves my dad.
Gav: Um, and it's not like when, you know
Gav: m
Gav: we've got
Gav: had those daughters before of my parents.
Gav: My mum
Gav: at
Gav: time when she said to me
Gav: what
Gav: is it she said to me who
Gav: died?
Dan: She said, Oh
Dan: Gav, that fella that played the Pink Panthers
Dan: dies.
Gav: That's it, yeah.
Dan: And it was it was Tadwit Bozeman who obviously played Marvel's Black Panther.
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: That sort of thing.
Gav: So
Gav: um
Gav: This is classic.
Gav: My uh this
Gav: my uncle had passed away and we were
Gav: gone
Gav: funeral.
Gav: My parents were gonna just have a little wake in the back garden.
Gav: So we went
Gav: And we're all sort of sitting under the gazebo
Gav: bit and sitting there.
Gav: I'm the youngest there and I'm 50 in January.
Gav: So
Gav: there we go.
Gav: And
Gav: um
Gav: a few people
Gav: then
Gav: a couple of people
Gav: actually there's a guy I went to school with actually uh
Gav: not far away from me.
Gav: Uh he's he's one of the undertakers nowadays, so he was there.
Gav: Um
Gav: anyway, so he
Gav: He was there sitting over in a distance with his mum for
Gav: now.
Gav: My dad's sitting close to me and he just looks over to him and says, What's wrong with you guys?
Gav: Have you got AIDS?
Gav: Then
Gav: laughs to himself
Gav: So my dad
Gav: my dad pulled out an age joke and he laughed himself and it was just like
Gav: I think my dad thinks it's 86
Gav: and he's down the Legion with his mates
Gav: And that's a joke that they probably pulled on someone.
Gav: What's wrong with you mate?
Gav: You got age
Gav: over
Gav: there?
Gav: And he thought it was really amusing.
Gav: I was just like I just
Gav: went,
Gav: oh
Gav: my god.
Gav: Like
Gav: d
Gav: like
Gav: dad, you can't say that.
Gav: Like
Gav: It's
Gav: it's not really it's not
Gav: bad, but it
Gav: you're telling
Gav: us to throw out age jokes.
Gav: Nilly
Gav: willy, you know, it's twenty
Gav: twenty-six.
Dan: Yeah, I mean AIDS is pretty much treatable now.
Gav: It's not even really a joke anymore, really.
Gav: And
Gav: even
Gav: though not
Gav: it wasn't
Gav: a joke in the first place, that's wrong.
Gav: I don't mean that in any way.
Gav: Um but
Gav: do you I mean for for people like that who would be like
Gav: oh
Gav: Broken
Gav: age joke sort of thing.
Gav: It's not even
Gav: it's not even
Gav: it's so irrelevant.
Gav: It was so
Gav: it's like my literally not
Gav: my dad to stepped back into 86 and he's down the Legion
Gav: drunk
Gav: And it was just
Gav: like, oh my god, where are
Gav: where
Gav: what's going on?
Gav: And I've kept that note for such a long time to mention on this podcast.
Dan: Well thank you.
Dan: I'm glad to hear that your dad's making really dated
Gav: jokes.
Gav: Anyway, I've watched
Gav: I've watched lots of films.
Gav: I did check out again, I haven't seen it for a long time.
Gav: I managed to pick up Sarah
Gav: a Blu-ray copy in my local charity shop of The Company of Wolves, which I watched from
Gav: my grand
Gav: um which is a connection to today
Gav: today's film I actually watched with my grand when I was a kid.
Gav: Um
Gav: and it was really good to watch that movie again and it's
Gav: really weird though, like it's it's
Gav: A strange film which
Gav: um
Gav: I think it's because it's
Gav: I don't think it
Gav: done so well because
Gav: the effects are really good.
Gav: I don't think it done so well because it's quite a period piece.
Gav: I think that's the issue
Dan: It's a dark, very dark fairy tale, and I think
Dan: it didn't know it didn't know how to mark itself
Dan: because it obviously everyone was just like
Gav: this is a horror movie.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: But it's quite
Dan: a
Dan: real horror movie.
Dan: Uh and it's more of a
Dan: T
Dan: fairy tale really, I mean I I have a memory of that.
Dan: I was
Dan: very young and it was on television.
Dan: Uh
Dan: or my mum was watching it in some
Dan: capacity
Dan: and I was delirious.
Dan: I had a fever and I remember coming downstairs to tell my mum that I was about to be sick
Dan: and she was watching
Dan: Company of Wolves
Dan: ironing.
Dan: This is about eleven
Dan: PM
Dan: at night.
Dan: She was ironing
Dan: our
Dan: school uniforms.
Dan: Just as I walked in the room there's a bit where the head got chopped off and lands in the
Dan: locked.
Dan: And I just remember looking at
Dan: I
Dan: just looked at the sort of TV and looked at her and then just went
Dan: through
Gav: Did
Gav: you?
Dan: So that move
Dan: that movie really stuck with
Dan: I was gonna be sick anyway, didn't that
Gav: Oh okay.
Gav: That didn't help it but
Gav: my mum was just like
Gav: I I was always
Gav: 'cause I watched that with my grand
Gav: just laying there as a little
Gav: kid and just been like
Gav: the hell
Gav: she's like
Gav: I've recorded a movie for us to watch
Gav: okay
Gav: gran
Dan: it's got Angela
Dan: Nam's
Gav: who plays like a Gran in it and stuff so I'm there with my gran
Gav: who's there knitting away or whatever
Gav: watching this movie
Gav: And at that point
Gav: there it goes into the milk and it all goes all pinky because of the blood and stuff and I was really like
Gav: like
Gav: like uh
Gav: grossed out by that whole head in the milk
Gav: And and the face
Gav: the werewolf face
Gav: pulling through the human face
Gav: was quite horrible as well.
Dan: Great effects.
Gav: Really good effects and I think it really
Gav: just
Gav: I think that's the problem.
Gav: It doesn't know what it's doing.
Gav: It's like
Gav: kinda bit
Gav: like
Gav: why
Gav: you
Gav: Why are you doing it like this?
Gav: Um
Gav: I did watch
Gav: also something
Gav: Sarah
Gav: Lemp
Gav: um said to me
Gav: check
Gav: out which I hadn't
Gav: is how to get heading advertising
Gav: Uh
Dan: yes, with Richard
Dan: E.
Dan: Graham.
Gav: Yeah, where he grows a little
Gav: head.
Dan: Yeah, good movie.
Gav: Yeah, I'd never seen it before it's quite good.
Gav: Um another one which we want to check out.
Gav: So I did part one and part two but didn't do part three is The Stepfather
Gav: I'd remembered that movie and I just wanted to watch it.
Gav: I would say that's worth recommend
Gav: uh
Gav: worth reviewing at some stage.
Dan: It's on my li
Dan: it's on our list.
Dan: Um
Dan: Mm
Dan: the first one is is is
Dan: sp
Dan: especially really good and really dark.
Dan: Especially when you realize
Gav: hey
Gav: but first one's pretty good.
Gav: Yeah the fact that
Gav: he's just setting up
Gav: setting up life in the
Gav: different towns and stuff, pre
Gav: like
Gav: internet, pre
Gav: where you can search someone's
Gav: See where they are and stuff at.
Gav: It was
Gav: yeah, it's very
Gav: very
Gav: um
Gav: uh
Gav: kind of Ted Bundy in the way
Gav: he would be a serial killer, you can imagine
Dan: Great
Dan: great acting as well
Dan: from that guy.
Dan: Uh
Gav: uh
Gav: watched Ren You're not two, didn't like it.
Gav: It was pretty much the same
Gav: as the first movie, it's been
Gav: like
Gav: I
Gav: don't know why this
Gav: exists.
Dan: I haven't seen it yet, but I
Dan: the first movie I'd watched recently again
Dan: for the second time
Dan: and thought
Dan: I think this is a little bit overrated.
Dan: I really like this set.
Dan: But
Dan: if I want to watch that movie, do you know what I watch?
Dan: I watch
Dan: Get Out
Dan: because
Dan: that's yeah pretty much the same movie
Dan: you
Dan: know what I mean?
Gav: And uh uh
Gav: I'm a massive fan of that recent, fairly a more recent movie, The Hunt
Dan: Yes, that's great.
Dan: We can
Gav: that's a really good movie, yeah.
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: Um
Gav: excuse me, uh
Gav: we had a few heat waves
Gav: I did get
Gav: Pick up a Blu-ray copy of Not with a Big Heap.
Gav: I've mentioned that movie before.
Gav: I did watch the recent most recent Final Destination movie.
Gav: Have you seen that?
Dan: Bloodlines, no, not yet.
Dan: Really
Dan: good.
Dan: I've heard it's
Dan: yeah, I've heard it
Dan: it's really good and I've heard it's um
Dan: quite emotional with Tony.
Gav: There's a dude who's got a penis piercing
Gav: and he gets caught and I think
Gav: a fan.
Gav: Oh
Dan: no, no, no
Dan: No no no no no no no no no
Gav: uh I watched Whistle
Gav: Coronardy's new film, uh wasn't really into it.
Gav: It felt like an 80s type sort of film, but I
Gav: lost interest.
Gav: Midpoint.
Gav: Um
Gav: I
Gav: didn't watch uh the new Eli Ross
Gav: Ice Cream Man, but I did go back and watch
Gav: the ice cream man
Gav: with um
Gav: um
Dan: Ron Howard's brother?
Gav: Yes
Gav: Clint
Gav: Clint
Gav: Hell.
Gav: Terrible, terrible, terrible movie.
Gav: Um and cause Sarah and I were gonna think of do it for a patron episode, but we didn't, so
Gav: um I ended up watching Demon Warp and I was like, let's do that as a patron episode which
Gav: we
Gav: released for you patrons
Dan: That reminds me, if I just may
Dan: pause you there.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: If I just may pause you there, thank big thank you to Sarah for stepping into my stinky
Dan: shoes on uh quite a few patron episodes for our dear patron episode.
Dan: supporters as well.
Dan: Thank you, Sarah.
Dan: You are very much loved and appreciated.
Dan: Thank you for being down.
Gav: She took some notes for me, which was great.
Gav: But we did that and demonstrate
Gav: Look uh uh
Gav: if you're not a patron though Demon Warp
Gav: 's a fantastic uh
Gav: crazy film, only something which would come out of the eighties
Gav: and well worth a watch and on
Gav: Prime still at the moment
Gav: UK um
Gav: but I don't know check check where you are
Gav: Uh
Gav: watched a few other things and I did check out that John
Gav: Candy documentary very quickly which I really appreciated
Gav: and I completely understand
Gav: his anxiety
Gav: that he had like being away from his family and stuff like that.
Gav: I completely get that.
Gav: uh
Gav: understand where he's coming
Gav: from.
Gav: Um
Gav: and I felt sorry for him in a
Gav: way.
Gav: Um but yeah, that was a good watch.
Gav: It was
Gav: enjoyable.
Gav: It is really good.
Gav: Uh I've got Apple subscription at the moment.
Gav: Oh
Gav: that
Gav: takes you on the same council
Gav: watch then I'll let you speak.
Gav: Um and there's a
Gav: Steve Martin documentary on there, which I think I might check out.
Gav: Okay, yeah, Apple subscription.
Gav: Very quickly say this and then I'll let you talk.
Gav: There's a really fantastic show on there
Gav: called Widows
Gav: Bay
Gav: which
Gav: is kind of like
Gav: the
Gav: the
Gav: little
Gav: town of Amity, uh
Gav: in
Gav: Jaws
Gav: 'Cause they
Gav: always class
Gav: themselves as wanting to be the next Martha's Vineyard.
Gav: Which um
Gav: isn't that
Gav: isn't that the town of Amity
Gav: Martha's Vineyard?
Gav: Yes.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Well that's where it was really shocking.
Dan: So th they
Gav: even mention that in this
Gav: And it's kind of got this creepy fog
Gav: that comes in and each episode
Gav: is
Gav: kind of like an
Gav: a different spooky thing.
Gav: And basically the town's kind of cursed
Gav: But it's really good and it's got real good
Gav: dry
Gav: sense of humor in it as well.
Gav: Really cool stuff.
Gav: So yeah.
Dan: It's getting really good reviews.
Gav: Really enjoyable.
Gav: I've still got about four episodes to watch me and Charlie
Gav: have been really enjoying watching it.
Gav: Oh and another thing very
Gav: very very very very very cool.
Gav: quickly
Gav: tomorrow night Charlie and I are off to the theatre to watch paranormal activity live.
Dan: Wow.
Gav: I know.
Gav: I
Dan: would
Dan: shit myself.
Gav: I can't fucking wait.
Gav: Apparently you've got really good seats as well
Dan: I would I would shit myself
Dan: because I that's one of the few movies for some reason that first one
Dan: really scared me.
Dan: And
Gav: I
Gav: watched something.
Gav: And obviously they've built a set of the houses and the rooms.
Gav: So
Gav: next episode I'll let you guys know what it's like.
Dan: Amazing.
Dan: That sounds really cool.
Gav: Yep.
Dan: I love stuff like that.
Gav: Yeah, immersive.
Gav: It's not
Gav: not immersive, but
Gav: In a sense, it's not a good idea.
Dan: It kind of is.
Dan: I wanna I've always wanted to see the woman in black because apparently the stage production
Dan: is really immersive.
Dan: And she creeps around the audience, she pops out from different places.
Dan: Um
Dan: and apparently that's that's really creepy.
Dan: I saw um
Dan: Not horror, but I saw Spider
Dan: Man turn off the dark in on Broadway, New York, um with Alice
Dan: about ten years ago and that was fully immersive.
Dan: Like all of a sudden the Green Goblin would be flight flying over your head
Dan: and then like
Dan: sp
Dan: Spider-Man would be swinging past you
Dan: and they had all these acrobats and guys dressed up in like Spider-Man gear and it was just incredible.
Dan: Like
Dan: it felt like
Dan: Just I've never had an experience like it.
Dan: So it
Dan: something to be said for that kind of thing.
Dan: That's cool.
Gav: Um
Gav: Yes, uh
Gav: did go to Frightfest as well, but uh
Gav: at the end of this segment uh we might hear from Gav at Frightfests.
Gav: Past
Gav: Gav
Gav: at Frightfest.
Dan: Past
Dan: Gav in London Frightfest.
Gav: Daniel.
Dan: He's waiting.
Dan: He's waiting for it to speak to us.
Dan: Uh
Dan: what
Dan: have I been watching?
Dan: I've watched
Dan: Been been watching Bits and Bobs.
Dan: I've not really been in the mood for an awful lot.
Dan: Um
Dan: and I've also been extremely tired
Dan: from work and other stuff.
Dan: But um
Dan: I'll quickly
Dan: go through a very brief list
Dan: The first
Dan: one I wanted to mention was one that Gav recommended to me a long time ago and I think it's talked well on this show.
Dan: And it's weirdly on Disney Plus, and that's called The Edge.
Dan: with
Dan: Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin and Elm McPherson.
Dan: If you want a proper sort of 90s
Dan: Forest set
Dan: uh
Dan: thriller
Dan: About two guys trying to survive and a bear, throw a bear in the mix, you know, Anthony Hopkins fighting a bear and all this kind of stuff.
Dan: It's really good.
Dan: I really enjoyed it.
Dan: Um
Dan: it was just what I needed
Dan: really.
Dan: Um
Dan: the only horror movie really
Dan: that I would mention
Dan: on this list.
Dan: I don't know there's a couple on here, but the main one I mentioned and I know Gab wasn't a fan of it and it's really split audiences.
Dan: I'm finally got around to watching Shyamalan
Dan: 's
Dan: trap
Dan: with
Dan: Josh Hartnett.
Dan: Um
Gav: crap
Gav: digital.
Gav: Uh
Dan: yes, exactly.
Dan: So
Dan: I really enjoyed it.
Dan: Um
Dan: I know a lot of people don't and I know a lot of people like the first half but not the second half.
Dan: And that seems to be like the deal with Shamel
Dan: and
Dan: Um
Dan: and I know Gav, you are a Shyamalan fan for the most for the first part of his career at least anyway, as am I.
Dan: And I like the most of what he's done.
Dan: I understand why people didn't like it, but for me it had some good twists in it.
Dan: The twist isn't
Dan: that he is the killer because you find that out in the trailers, you find that out within the first few minutes.
Dan: The twists were later on
Dan: to do with what the singer decides to do and then later on again r
Dan: in the final
Dan: act
Dan: So they were really interesting twists for me.
Dan: What I liked about it the most though
Dan: was firstly that concept of that kind of like diehard
Dan: setting, you know, where someone's in
Dan: an arena or something like that.
Dan: But also I really loved
Dan: seeing Josh Hartnett as a baddie.
Dan: He
Dan: seemed to be having a lot of fun in that role and I'd like to see him do more of that.
Dan: 'Cause I quite liked him at the end of Thirty Days of Night when he becomes a gnarly
Dan: vamp
Dan: for the last few seconds.
Dan: I thought
Dan: this guy could be
Dan: You know, he was almost a bit of a baddie in the faculty for a little bit as well.
Dan: So I'd like to see him do more of that as he's got older.
Dan: He's kinda going down the same route as um
Dan: Ethan Hawke.
Dan: He used to be this heart throb
Dan: and now he's doing
Dan: and he's still like a good looking guy or whatever, but he's now because he's older, he's playing
Dan: dads.
Dan: and he's also playing like bad guys so I'd quite like to see that.
Dan: But I liked Trap.
Dan: I didn't give it a massively high score but I gave it six out of ten
Dan: And I enjoyed watching it.
Dan: I didn't know where it was gonna go.
Gav: Yeah, I just like
Gav: I just like
Gav: the um i
Gav: concept of him being trapped in a massive area.
Gav: Like that.
Gav: I quite like that.
Gav: And then when he
Gav: escaped that area, it's just
Gav: the concept ran out the window for me and that's
Gav: I was enjoying that.
Gav: And then
Dan: Chimmelin
Dan: had
Gav: I I I imagine like uh
Gav: budget wise uh that that would
Gav: cost
Gav: a lot of money so you can't put the whole movie there.
Gav: But
Dan: I I feel like Shyamelin had
Dan: watched a lot of Columbo
Dan: Because it was basically a big budget Colombo episode where you find out who the murderer is right at the beginning
Dan: and then you're kind of almost rooting for them.
Dan: A bit like psycho.
Dan: It was a bit like psycho
Dan: in that you're rooting for the bad guy.
Dan: You don't realise it.
Dan: You're hoping that they kind of escape.
Gav: Almost Spielberg like
Gav: uh
Gav: famously Spielberg's first directoral jobs was Columbo episodes, so
Dan: Yeah, yeah
Dan: There we go.
Dan: Um
Dan: I watched the Mandalorian and Grogu movie.
Dan: I didn't see it in the theatres, um, and I'm glad I didn't.
Dan: It was a huge disappointment
Dan: It had some fun elements, great action, but I'm gonna skip over that.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Sure, I'm not sure.
Dan: Do you think you
Gav: get more enjoyment watching it at home?
Gav: Because I knew I'm not a massive fan of this and I understand, but I did watch actually that that th
Gav: that TV show.
Gav: What's it called?
Dan: Mandalorian.
Gav: I did watch some of that stuff and I I didn't mind that actually.
Gav: I quite like the kind of uh uh the Clinton
Gav: Eastwood man with no
Gav: name type sort of scenario sort of going on.
Gav: I enjoyed that theme for it.
Gav: Um
Gav: but even I knew when this was coming out and I was just
Gav: like
Gav: But it's you've already established this as a TV show and then you're gonna try and adapt it now to a big screen.
Gav: Surely you have a big screen movie which
Gav: turns to a TV show
Gav: Not the other way around
Gav: because that's
Gav: people's
Gav: it's not gonna r
Gav: it's not gonna translate to the big screen.
Gav: You can sit there and go, why am I bothering?
Gav: I could be watching this at home.
Gav: Why, why, why
Gav: I
Gav: I'm guessing?
Gav: I don't know
Gav: Hmm.
Dan: Yeah, I
Dan: I mean
Dan: there is a story behind it which I mentioned to you often
Dan: where
Dan: but it's basically Disney milking the Grogu
Dan: merchandise for all they can
Dan: And it didn't work, sadly.
Dan: Um
Dan: Star Wars needs a break, in my opinion.
Dan: There is another Star Wars movie coming out next year
Dan: with Ryan Gosling.
Gav: Um
Gav: I don't
Gav: see
Gav: people even
Gav: following that stuff anymore.
Gav: I don't see
Gav: no
Gav: the fa
Gav: it
Gav: it
Gav: it's funny because I I don't really get into it too much, but on Facebook
Gav: You see the waves of different things which are popular.
Gav: I I follow my Facebook is a
Gav: basically
Gav: mainly lots of film groups.
Gav: That's what it is most of the time.
Gav: So I'm going through and I see what's popular and you see
Gav: the same sort of
Gav: feeds
Gav: coming up at time or certain movies and stuff and more
Gav: as popular at time and obviously at her
Gav: stage was
Gav: all marvels and stuff like that.
Gav: But yeah I don't I don't know
Gav: Um
Dan: there was a night where I was feeling particularly low and
Dan: very sad
Dan: and
Dan: you'd just sent me the patron episode um that you did with Sarah
Dan: Demon Warp
Dan: and I published it.
Dan: And I thought, this is the kind of film I think I need tonight.
Dan: And I put it on
Dan: and for 90 minutes
Dan: I was in heaven
Dan: because
Dan: it was big
Dan: foot.
Dan: At times you're going, no
Gav: what's going on?
Dan: It was devil worshipping cult, aliens, bigfoot, ghosts.
Dan: It just had
Dan: it was like someone had just puked up a loads of supernatural stuff.
Dan: It had it all in it and it was
Dan: Just silly, fun
Dan: some
Dan: quite good effects.
Gav: Only made in the eighties.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: And I highly recommend Demon Warp from nineteen
Dan: eighty eight
Dan: if you haven't seen its
Gav: Fuck me, I love George Kennedy.
Gav: How many how many movies do you want
Gav: to turn on?
Gav: He's like
Gav: fucking John
Gav: Saxon.
Gav: And they're both they're both exactly the same actually.
Gav: You turn on the movie and go, nice
Gav: It's George Kennedy in it.
Gav: And it's an um
Gav: 80s obscure horror movie.
Gav: And then it's like, oh nice.
Gav: John
Gav: Saxon's in this
Gav: strange Italian horror movie I don't know about.
Gav: You know, it's brilliant.
Dan: Yeah, really good stuff.
Gav: Didn't board scrape check it out, people.
Dan: Uh you watched the uh
Dan: John Candy one which I'd recommended to you.
Dan: The one I
Dan: watched recently, which I was very disappointed with 'cause it was only forty-five minutes long, was the Mr.
Dan: T
Dan: documentary.
Dan: That should have been like a four or five part.
Gav: I don't think he was happier, apparently.
Gav: Uh I've not looked into
Gav: those.
Dan: It's a shame
Dan: because
Dan: I did learn a lot about him.
Dan: Um
Dan: he's an incredibly
Dan: like
Dan: he's
Dan: what
Dan: What a genuine
Dan: hero.
Gav: Like when his daughter said
Gav: his daughter's like
Gav: I didn't know him at all and then one day I didn't think anything of it at all and one day he turned up to pick me up at school.
Gav: So like
Gav: anybody
Gav: wants to pick
Gav: up at school
Gav: because of this reason
Gav: And
Gav: like
Gav: everybody flooded him and he's like, Oh my god, it's Mr.
Gav: T
Gav: She had no idea
Gav: when she was at school that he was like
Gav: that known and popular.
Gav: Imagine that if your dad
Gav: being like,
Gav: Oh my god, my dad's like
Gav: loved
Dan: He's got incredible philosophy
Dan: life philosophy.
Gav: Yeah, yeah.
Dan: He came from the streets and he was involved in some dodgy stuff back in the day, but he was quickly became a banker
Dan: security guy.
Gav: I think he killed the people who
Gav: robbed his mum
Gav: He alludes to it.
Dan: I mean that's that
Dan: that story is.
Gav: He alludes to that.
Dan: I mean, yeah, if
Dan: if you've
Dan: listed
Dan: basically listeners, if you haven't seen it, there's a there's a point where he when he was younger
Dan: Some people robbed his mum at knife point, I think.
Dan: They didn't hurt her.
Dan: They just took a few.
Gav: Meaning he's going up to people and fucking
Gav: going
Gav: oh
Gav: fuck it.
Gav: Yeah, I
Gav: will
Gav: fuck you up.
Gav: Tell us some names.
Gav: That
Gav: shit
Gav: And then he went and got a baseball battle.
Gav: He said we fang them.
Dan: Yeah, then we went and got my baseball.
Dan: No, he got a gun, he said.
Gav: Oh no, he got a gun, yeah.
Gav: So
Gav: yeah, I reckon he
Gav: uh
Gav: Or he's fucking shot
Gav: me in kneecaps or something, do you know what I mean?
Gav: But no, because he wouldn't though, because in that sort of
Gav: situation, they're just gonna come back and shoot you.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: Won't they?
Gav: Yeah, so you need to like
Gav: take care of business.
Dan: But he he's a really humble guy and I think he deserves a bigger and and sadly I think perhaps when he dies he'll get a a longer
Dan: Because
Dan: we've been really treated like the whole Kogan one
Dan: was incredible
Dan: and we've been really treated to some of these
Dan: fantastic documentary.
Dan: Um
Dan: he died before they finished it, didn't he, at the Hulk
Dan: and one, you know?
Dan: It was really sad.
Gav: It was quite a good documentary.
Gav: It wasn't gonna bother and I was just like, no, I
Gav: I used to like him and he's big f
Gav: big fan, uh friend sorry, of uh Mr.
Gav: T.
Dan: He was.
Dan: Um
Dan: that's kind of it really
Dan: for what I've been watching
Dan: tonight.
Dan: Um on the first
Gav: another
Gav: connection
Gav: to those
Gav: My local charity shop is uh closing down and so
Gav: all the DVDs and things are half price.
Gav: And I was just I
Gav: I watched the first one
Gav: once.
Gav: I don't know if I've seen the others
Gav: when I was a kid, I didn't like it.
Gav: I liked Rambo, I was
Gav: like, I don't
Gav: I fucking like Rocky
Gav: But I got like
Gav: this Rocky box set for one pound fifty.
Gav: And it's got like all the movies in it and stuff.
Gav: Um
Gav: Which obviously
Gav: he
Gav: fights
Gav: Mr.
Gav: T
Gav: and uh uh
Gav: Hulk Hogan.
Dan: Hulk Hogan.
Dan: Part three, yeah.
Gav: So I'm actually gonna think I'm gonna walk sit and watch the Rocky movies.
Gav: I think Sarah
Gav: probably watched a movie.
Dan: Three
Dan: three is fun
Dan: One
Dan: one is good.
Dan: Two is my favourite.
Dan: It's the best.
Dan: It's like a better remake of number one
Dan: in a way.
Dan: In some ways.
Dan: And then three is the silly 80s one.
Dan: Four
Dan: is great because it's fucking Ivan
Dan: Drago, Dolph London.
Dan: absolute beast, you know, and then five is appalling.
Dan: And then I've seen
Dan: Rocky, which is the sixth one, and I've seen
Dan: um
Dan: Uh what's the one with uh
Gav: Boa?
Gav: Oh
Gav: that's a that's a rocky one, isn't it?
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: No, there's
Dan: um
Dan: there's another one isn't there.
Dan: Um
Gav: I don't know.
Gav: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: But that
Dan: they're okay, but they're not.
Dan: But um
Dan: I started
Dan: my
Dan: 31
Dan: Which I'm not gonna obviously dive into now, we'll save that for a Halloween
Dan: episode.
Dan: But my theme
Dan: for this year, because I've got twin five year olds, as everybody know
Dan: is
Dan: the only way I'm gonna do this is I'm gonna watch films with them.
Dan: So I
Dan: put together a list of 31
Dan: child friendly
Dan: Spooky horror movies.
Dan: Um
Dan: to give you an idea, some of the stuff we've watched already
Dan: is like The Nightmare Before Christmas, Hocus
Dan: Pocus, Casper, the Adams
Dan: Family, and then it's gonna be stuff on there like Monster House, Coraline.
Dan: You know, Frank and Weenie, all this kind of stuff.
Dan: Ghostbusters, they've only seen that once.
Dan: I'm gonna watch that with them this year and see how they are with it.
Dan: They might be a bit too scared by it.
Dan: It's quite funny, like
Dan: Being five, they are quite scared by some of the stuff that's coming out in these ones.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Hocus
Dan: Pocus, they couldn't
Dan: Jack particularly couldn't get to the end of Hocus
Dan: Pocus.
Dan: He was too scared of Bet
Dan: Midler in it.
Dan: Which is hilarious
Dan: Um
Dan: Edith
Dan: really she's gonna be my
Dan: um
Dan: little buddy, I think, when she's older and watching horror movies.
Dan: She
Dan: she's really into it.
Dan: Um
Dan: but yeah so that's my theme this year
Dan: so I've been posting up what I've been watching and I'm excited to do that with the kids.
Dan: I've got some good ones on there.
Dan: Uh they've never seen a ratnophobia and that's on the list later on in the month
Dan: So there's a few on there that we're gonna get through and it's it's gonna be fun to watch some of these with them.
Dan: Um
Dan: there's a few that I'd like to watch with them
Dan: like Beetlejuice, but I think that'd just be a bit too much for them
Dan: really.
Dan: Um
Dan: so I'll save that for a couple more years.
Dan: But yeah, so that's what I'm doing at the moment with my Halloween.
Dan: So
Dan: my last few days
Dan: I've just been watching these sort of child friendly horror films really.
Dan: You're not doing a theme this year, is that right?
Dan: You're just
Dan: banging out whatever you can.
Gav: Yeah, I'm just doing what I normally do.
Gav: Um
Gav: I have done a couple of things.
Gav: Um
Gav: yesterday, for example, I actually just did
Gav: because
Gav: um I was doing it with
Gav: Elijah
Gav: I just did
Gav: uh sorry I was
Gav: completely thrown
Gav: there.
Gav: I just did a couple of episodes of Halloween Simpsons.
Gav: Um
Gav: because
Gav: and I like to do that sometimes, just
Gav: go, no, that's cool, that's that's my that's my day
Gav: Today
Gav: of horror
Gav: I did some and it's good.
Gav: I watched an
Gav: brand
Gav: of
Gav: the the most recent one they had, which
Gav: is alright.
Gav: And then I watched an old one
Gav: Um
Gav: I said
Gav: I didn't know which
Gav: I was like to Nigel to choose one um
Gav: and we sat and ate our dinner
Gav: to it and he chose
Gav: one.
Gav: I can't remember which one it was now, but
Gav: Oh it's it's it is a classic one, it's uh where
Gav: Ned
Gav: Uh it gets bitten by werewolf but it turns into an I
Gav: know what you did
Gav: last summer
Gav: scenario.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: That's a good one.
Gav: Um I started off um
Gav: oh and I did Coraline
Gav: as one of mine as well.
Gav: Uh
Gav: Coraline.
Gav: Elijah wanted to watch.
Gav: Uh
Gav: did the backrooms.
Gav: Elijah wanted to watch that.
Gav: Uh as you could tell I've been with Elijah.
Gav: Uh
Gav: and I said to him, Right, he's twelve and it's a fifteen.
Gav: I was like, no, that's alright, cool, I'll rent it out.
Gav: So we rented that out 'cause he knows the lore anyway because
Gav: he plays in, he just knows it.
Gav: because he's on the internet
Gav: and I did rocket
Gav: with number one with Prometheus
Gav: which is such a fantastic movie
Gav: it really is
Dan: Yeah, you're a big fan of that one, aren't you?
Gav: I think it's such a good movie.
Gav: Um but yeah, I I'm gonna this year I do plan on doing the classics to Huby
Gav: Halloween.
Gav: Um
Gav: That's my
Gav: final
Dan: one, but the kids
Dan: are going to be a good thing.
Gav: I know we could do Hellraiser.
Gav: Um
Gav: I might
Gav: Try and do a load of
Gav: Halloween films because I picked them all up on Blu-ray last year.
Dan: Yeah, Halloween's on a Saturday this year, so my final watch will be Hoobie Halloween with the kids on Saturday afternoon and then we'll go out trick or treating
Gav: Yeah, Daisy's like
Gav: I watched the first one review and I was like, alright, cool.
Gav: So it's
Gav: it's my weekend with the kids and
Gav: where they've moved to, that's like we can literally walk step out that door, walk around that the block where they live
Gav: Trickle
Gav: tree
Gav: and then still be back for other people to come around probably while we watch movies, which should be quite cool.
Gav: Um
Gav: she said I'd want to watch the original Halloween Halloween
Gav: review
Gav: And
Gav: uh I said well I wanna do the back to back, so I wanna do the first one, the second one, the originals
Gav: back
Gav: to back, 'cause I've never done it.
Gav: And uh
Gav: very quickly the Halloween t
Gav: uh
Gav: computer game on PS5
Gav: and
Gav: or
Gav: whatever console you play or computer
Gav: is really good.
Gav: You could be m you're
Gav: Michael
Gav: Mars and you're following the first movie
Gav: You're doing
Gav: all the s
Gav: little scenes from the movie, like
Gav: you've got to go and find Laurie and Killer, you know?
Dan: Amazing.
Gav: Really good show.
Dan: You sent me some snippets of the Ukraine.
Gav: So cool, yeah
Dan: Anyway, that's cool.
Gav: That's right.
Dan: So that
Dan: is what we've been watching.
Dan: Gav has also been busy
Dan: in the world of YouTube
Dan: Uh
Dan: there is a new
Dan: YouTube
Dan: channel that you can follow
Dan: called
Gav: The
Gav: Video
Gav: Shop.
Dan: Starring yours
Dan: truly not yours truly, his truly, him
Dan: over there.
Gav: Uh uh yeah, I just wanted to do it
Gav: means to do
Gav: the past couple of years, but I just thought I'd get on with it.
Gav: Um I was waiting for the right flat
Gav: where I had the mice
Gav: right room so I can make it more like a video shop with an actual counter.
Gav: But if I keep waiting, I'm never
Gav: just gonna fucking do it, so I'll just go on
Gav: with it
Gav: And I made it work.
Gav: Um it's me reviewing videotapes from my video collection.
Gav: Each episode is just a little movie that
Gav: no more than 10 minutes
Gav: really.
Gav: Um
Gav: Yeah, that's it
Gav: really.
Gav: Uh and it's called uh
Gav: YouTube, it's the video
Gav: shop rental
Gav: if you're looking for the actual at
Gav: name.
Gav: Um, but that's what it is.
Gav: Come check it out.
Gav: Um, I'd appreciate the views
Gav: It
Dan: it's really good fun.
Dan: I'm not just saying that's because Gav's my friend.
Dan: It's really good fun.
Dan: They're
Dan: bite-sized 10-minute episodes like you've just said.
Dan: Um
Dan: really
Dan: great editing, really fun setup
Dan: background.
Dan: um
Dan: and
Dan: it's very humorous at times um
Dan: and
Dan: like you
Dan: like we discussed
Dan: Opera Fair
Dan: the other day, although a lot of us hardcore horror fans and they're not all horror movies that you're you're sort of recommending
Dan: um
Dan: But you pointed out to me that, you know, actually some of these films are like almost 50 years old.
Dan: And so therefore
Dan: you're you're speaking to an audience who may well have never seen some of these movies, you know.
Dan: And that's quite scary
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: Um
Dan: but um
Dan: I do like the fact that you
Dan: you
Dan: you are like
Dan: it is like being in a video store in the 80s and you are recommending these films.
Dan: And you're sort of saying, Oh
Dan: have you not seen this?
Dan: This is great, you know, you need to
Dan: this is good.
Dan: I'm not gonna spoil it for you, but you know there's a bit
Dan: really good effects at this, just like the guys would have done to us back in the day.
Dan: W
Gav: without going into like
Gav: our
Gav: show
Gav: I
Gav: we review a film all the way through to the end
Gav: This I uh when I do it for the
Gav: that
Gav: I can't.
Gav: I just talk about it a bit.
Gav: I don't even get into the end.
Gav: I don't probably go past halfway, I
Gav: kinda
Gav: stop
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: But yeah,
Dan: please check that out.
Dan: It's on our Facebook page, there's links to it on there, but it is
Dan: um
Dan: the
Dan: um
Gav: I'm just gonna keep doing it.
Gav: So
Dan: The vi
Dan: the video shot rental on on YouTube
Dan: is great.
Gav: The editing is quite nice.
Gav: It's really good.
Gav: Um so like there's a bit of the mum like
Gav: laughing
Gav: And it's a bit
Gav: I sort of mentioned a bit where I sort of just say, well, sh
Gav: you know, she I don't think she expected
Gav: wanted to uh choose a doll
Gav: which has a serial killer
Gav: soul inside it, but maybe she did, and it just cuts to her laughing, a close up of her laughing
Gav: And it's just
Gav: nice I could do stuff like that.
Gav: Um
Gav: so yeah, thanks for watching.
Gav: But yeah, subscribe if you can people and uh watch to the end, otherwise YouTube
Gav: thinks I'm shit if you watch a bit and go, I'll watch that later
Gav: Um
Dan: well before we just go back in the past
Dan: to Gav
Dan: who's waiting, he's been waiting since um
Dan: August
Dan: to
Dan: you know, speak to us about Fright Fest live at the
Dan: Fright Fest.
Dan: Um
Dan: before we
Dan: before we do that, Gabby
Dan: just wanted to say a few words about one of our
Dan: Deadbolt films cohorts, didn't you?
Gav: Yeah, uh
Gav: uh unfortunately uh
Gav: while we've been off the air, Dom, who's one of the managing directors of Deadbolt Films in fact
Gav: had a uh
Gav: serious motorbike accident
Gav: Accident, um, which unfortunately took the life of the guy he was co-riding.
Gav: They were both on Holly Davidson's.
Gav: It wasn't their fault
Gav: Uh I'm not gonna get into it
Gav: for l for legal reasons, what happened.
Gav: Um
Gav: uh
Gav: but he was
Gav: he was left fucked up.
Gav: Um
Gav: he is on the mend, but he's been left fucked up.
Gav: And we
Gav: actually I'll put the uh
Gav: The GoFundMe's still on.
Gav: We're just trying to get him
Gav: five thousand pounds just to get back on his feet a bit because
Gav: um
Gav: at the time
Gav: his house and job had been taken away from him but we're we're
Gav: trying to get things sorted but uh
Gav: for legal reasons again I can't say anything much.
Gav: But he was fucked up basically and obviously there's a lot of trauma going
Gav: for that
Gav: And I I don't wish that upon anyone.
Gav: And Dom was um
Gav: of
Gav: uh Dom was
Gav: our grip um for Deadbolt Films
Gav: um
Gav: and also our
Gav: BA, our
Gav: uh
Gav: of
Gav: the A team so to speak.
Gav: Dom's one of those people who can just do anything.
Gav: Um
Gav: So yeah, he first came on uh when we did Star Wars, he made scripts for us, when we went back for a little re-shoot and then he
Gav: just stayed with us doing
Gav: stuff.
Gav: Um
Gav: and then
Gav: became a
Gav: managing director.
Gav: Um but yes we wish him the very best.
Dan: Yeah,
Dan: if you even if you can just chuck uh five
Dan: pounds into the the GoFundMe
Dan: it would really be appreciated.
Dan: Um
Dan: he's got a lot of physical healing but also mental healing to do
Dan: and he has to
Dan: Get back on his feet with regards to uh
Dan: job, home,
Gav: uh
Gav: therapy is one thing.
Gav: He's kinda been left in the lurch for therapy.
Gav: He's left the hospital now, he's in a hotel.
Gav: Um uh
Gav: but yeah, um
Gav: he doesn't have anything sort of going on, so we're trying to sort something out.
Gav: Um I need to speak to him.
Dan: He would really and we would really appreciate it if anybody out there could take the time, even if you can't donate five pounds, just to share his GoFundMe page, 'cause
Dan: um
Dan: It
Dan: it's a really tough situation he's in.
Gav: Yeah, it's totally.
Gav: Uh and yeah, it's been quite hard for him
Gav: as you can imagine.
Gav: He just
Gav: and he had a point
Gav: when
Gav: he had
Gav: to
Gav: Uh
Gav: uh
Gav: liquidators are trying to take all of his stuff and he had to buy it all back off
Gav: him.
Gav: His own stuff.
Gav: Yep.
Gav: Because they're
Gav: like, nope, this can't be yours.
Gav: Like
Gav: it
Gav: all his tools and machinery and stuff
Gav: So yeah, anyway, I can't it's not really I can get into
Gav: any of it anyway.
Gav: So it's still a
Gav: a uh
Gav: lawyer situation at the moment,
Gav: so
Gav: As
Gav: his
Gav: as his
Gav: co-ho
Gav: co
Gav: drider
Gav: was passed, you know, from the situation.
Gav: Um
Gav: it's quite a big, as you can imagine, legal situation going on
Dan: Yeah, of course, of course.
Gav: But yeah, so that was
Dan: So that is
Dan: yeah, that is
Dan: products to say the least.
Dan: Um so Dom, we like
Dan: you and we're thinking of you, buddy.
Dan: Um
Dan: Uh
Dan: I tell you
Gav: I'll tell you one thing though, uh
Gav: which is quite comical.
Gav: I went down to see him at a hospital, in Southampton Hospital, and we'd got him we'd just managed to get him uh like a wheelchair
Gav: At the time he had a little cafeter
Gav: with a little fucking tap on it, like it was a fucking beer tap, right?
Gav: And I took him a
Gav: I took him a kebab
Gav: down.
Gav: So we pulled put him in a wheelchair, took him outside
Gav: and he's sitting there and I'm feeding him a kebab because he couldn't use his arms at the time, right?
Gav: And and then he had one hand
Gav: head
Gav: kind of use
Gav: and he's just next to the coffee window while people having coffee at the hospital.
Gav: It's a big hospital where it has
Gav: like a subway inside it and everything.
Gav: It's huge.
Gav: Um
Gav: and he just releases his piss
Gav: valve.
Gav: So I'm like, you're eating
Gav: y it's like you're
Gav: like
Gav: on a Friday night down the pub, you're pissing up against the window while you're eating a kebab
Gav: Like I can't
Gav: then the wind came up and he had piss splashes on me.
Gav: Ugh fucking hell, piss splashes.
Gav: So yes,
Gav: um uh
Gav: so thanks for that
Gav: Tom
Dan: Well, that's what we've been watching.
Dan: That's what we've been up to.
Dan: That's the things that have been going on in our lives and other people's lives.
Dan: And once again, thank you for sticking with us.
Dan: We're done with our intro
Dan: Before we wrap up and
Dan: go into
Dan: our
Dan: trailer for The Watcher
Dan: in the Woods,
Dan: go to see if
Dan: Dream Holly.
Dan: We are gonna just quickly
Dan: Go
Dan: beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep.
Dan: We're going over to our roving reporter
Dan: past
Dan: Gavin
Dan: live.
Dan: As he he was live
Dan: at uh
Dan: Frightfest 2026
Dan: in London.
Dan: So Gav, are you there?
Gav: Hello, well thank you Gav
Gav: and Dan for that.
Gav: I appreciate that.
Gav: Uh here
Gav: I am at Fright Fest.
Gav: Oh, some
Gav: levels a bit louder there.
Gav: I'm in the car.
Gav: Thought I'd do this.
Gav: I've done this for a few years.
Gav: I've got some people with Tourette's in the car with me, it sounds like.
Gav: I'm with
Gav: John, Ben
Gav: and Mark.
Gav: Everybody
Gav: say hello.
Ben: Goodbye.
Gav: See Ben's Comical, he said goodbye.
Gav: So we're all off the Fright Fest, we don't know what movies we go watch, do we?
Gav: Do we?
Ben: Not sure.
Ben: Five movies.
Gav: But we don't know what they are.
Ben: T
Ben: hyena.
Ben: Uh
Gav: species.
Ben: Species.
Gav: And something else.
Gav: And
Ben: something else and something else.
Ben: You want the film?
Gav: Are you not going right
Gav: here,
Gav: uh Mark?
Gav: No, alright.
Gav: Anyway, we're driving through London and we're almost at uh
Gav: Leicester
Gav: Square
Gav: and I will get back to you of
Gav: hopefully
Gav: chatting to a few people, you never know, an odd film director
Gav: Or someone I know who's watched the movies could give us a bit of a review of the weekend's movies.
Gav: Anyway, we'll be back again real soon, won't we peoples?
Ben: See you later
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: Right, I'm back here at Frightfest.
Gav: We
Gav: just watched two movies
Gav: which have been quite good as a few people dotted around here and there.
Gav: The first movie we watched was Oddities with Adrian Barbeau,
Gav: who you know from the Fog
Gav: radio DJ.
Gav: Her son, Cody Carpenter, John Carpenter's son also, did the music for it.
Gav: Uh it's a film about a couple of girls who like the cocaine.
Gav: Cocaine was one hell of a drug.
Gav: They like to do that and then they uh have an accident and go somewhere and
Gav: uh
Gav: things happen
Gav: and stuff like that.
Gav: Ben!
Ben: It was
Ben: good.
Ben: I enjoyed it.
Ben: She was great in it.
Gav: Adrian Bobo.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Absolutely
Ben: amazing.
Ben: Made the film.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: There was a there was a little bit at the end.
Ben: I didn't like.
Gav: Is that the shot?
Ben: Yeah, there was one shot that just
Gav: nobody liked.
Ben: Snip that, get
Ben: rid of that and then it was great.
Gav: Yeah, nobody liked that.
Gav: Last one last shot, but anyway, did you like the film?
Ben: I did, I I did enjoy the film.
Ben: The the main antagonist, I can't remember the
Ben: the actress.
Ben: his name but she was phenomenal in
Ben: it uh colours were good in it
Ben: um
Ben: yeah
Ben: locations were great
Ben: story was cool
Ben: um
Ben: yeah
Ben: just the final delivery
Ben: the final scene
Ben: take it away
Gav: final shot
Gav: not even scene
Gav: shot really
Ben: I thought it was a very well crafted story with lots of uh intertwining
Ben: sort of different storylines that come together quite nicely.
Ben: Kept me interesting, interested the whole way through uh to try and find out what was going on
Ben: and I thought it was brilliant
Ben: Up until that last scene.
Gav: Yeah, it's a shame
Gav: really.
Gav: Because that's what we're gonna remember.
Gav: So what was the other thing we watched?
Gav: Hotel
Gav: Hotel
Gav: Mark Hotel
Mark: Lake uh Hotel
Mark: Valley View Motel.
Mark: Valley View Motel, that was it.
Gav: Hotel Valley View Motel, Valley View Motel.
Mark: Valley View Motel.
Gav: Yeah, not
Gav: Hotel motel.
Ben: No, it's not hotel motel holiday in.
Ben: Uh
Gav: Bayview Motel.
Gav: Um we've just been chatting to uh uh
Gav: I was
Gav: gonna say
Gav: a young actress from the movie.
Gav: She was young in the movie but we discovered she's not that young actually
Gav: well she is still the young person, but not as young as we thought uh in real life, just chatting away to her.
Gav: Uh she's
Gav: nice
Gav: nice lady.
Gav: Um I preferred this movie over Oddities a little bit.
Gav: I think that was a better
Gav: film
Gav: um
Gav: and
Gav: it is
Gav: what's it what's
Gav: what's it what's it about?
Gav: Um
Ben: Valley View
Ben: Motel.
Ben: Um
Ben: it kind of starts off with a
Ben: no
Ben: country for old men kind of vibe where it's
Ben: a very
Gav: Tarantino country.
Gav: Cohen
Gav: Brothers talk.
Ben: Extremely Tarantino
Ben: Cohen
Ben: Brothers uh themed
Ben: um great
Ben: it's well shot, really
Ben: well shot.
Ben: Filmed
Ben: on a hundred and twenty
Ben: grand.
Ben: Um
Ben: yeah,
Ben: some
Ben: really good scene.
Ben: Shots are great.
Ben: The it was set like in the seventies, I think it was seventies.
Gav: I had that sort of feel too.
Ben: It had that vibe and the lighting was quite was
Ben: great.
Ben: Like
Gav: the killer.
Ben: Yes, the killer.
Ben: The guy
Ben: I can't remember the
Ben: guy that looks like
Mark: brick.
Mark: Brick
Mark: anchor man.
Mark: Once
Mark: once you see it you can't unsee it.
Ben: Yeah.
Gav: Did you
Gav: like the film?
Mark: I loved the film.
Mark: I thought it was great, yeah.
Mark: Um
Mark: I thought that
Mark: um
Mark: oh
Mark: what was her name?
Mark: We
Mark: literally just met her.
Ben: Son
Ben: um
Ben: Laura.
Mark: Laura N?
Ben: Laura M.
Mark: She was great.
Mark: She was great.
Mark: in it.
Mark: Uh
Mark: it's kind of a small part
Mark: but stand
Mark: out definitely.
Mark: Yeah
Gav: totally.
Gav: Her performance are really good.
Gav: But she she's at
Gav: at the end of the day though, she's the uh protagonist that wins at the end.
Mark: No, you spoil it for everyone.
Gav: She might not win.
Gav: He might die.
Gav: We don't know.
Gav: Ignore the device.
Ben: You've just forgotten everything
Ben: in the last
Ben: ten
Ben: seconds.
Gav: John, did you like the film?
Ben: Um
Ben: I did enjoy the film, yes.
Ben: Um
Ben: You didn't fall asleep once.
Ben: I
Ben: fell asleep a couple of times because
Ben: I only got about three
Gav: Oh
Gav: no, oh no.
Ben: It wasn't because of the movie, I was just really, really tired.
Gav: on the way home at that point uh with the last two films we're gonna watch.
Gav: We ha we are missing a movie right now to hang out and get some food and be sociable and I just got a free Sega
Gav: t shirt so
Gav: na
Gav: na
Gav: na na
Gav: na
Gav: wanker
Ben: um so the
Ben: next films up
Ben: to see
Ben: We are
Ben: hyena at 6.
Ben: 30 and species at 8.
Ben: 55.
Gav: Two movies that are already out in the world.
Gav: There's a movie called Hyena
Gav: and a movie called Species already out.
Gav: But anyway, we will see what these ones are, different
Gav: films.
Gav: Alright, goodbye people.
Gav: Back again soon
Gav: really soon.
Gav: Thank you.
Gav: Hello, I'm back again.
Gav: We are now in the car on our way back from Friday Fest.
Gav: It's been a nice day hanging out of people
Gav: and hanging out of these dudes.
Gav: Hey dudes.
Gav: Hey, hey
Ben: hey!
Ben: Uh
Gav: we've just watched two more movies, um
Gav: one called Hyena, um
Gav: which I think was American, and then
Gav: one called Uh Species, which was actually French, um, because
Gav: obviously we know of us
Gav: movie
Gav: called species
Gav: which had
Gav: lots of nudity in
Gav: but funny enough this one also had lots of nudity in
Gav: as well
Gav: but anyway
Gav: hyena
Gav: people what did you think
Gav: good
Ben: it was good very
Ben: very well edited
Ben: very
Ben: well
Ben: Planned.
Ben: Um
Ben: the only problem was there was a twist which was a little bit too obvious up front.
Gav: Everybody noticed it at the beginning.
Mark: It was so obvious we were waiting for the second twist
Mark: because
Mark: we thought that wasn't a twist.
Gav: Because it came about so early, yes.
Ben: Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Ben: There were elements of Fight Club, um elements of Alexandra Ayer
Ben: 's um
Ben: Hortonchamp
Ben: ,
Ben: which is switchblade romance.
Ben: But yeah, really, really good.
Ben: Good film, great twist at the end.
Ben: But you could see it coming a mile away as
Ben: John
Ben: And Ben.
Mark: It wasn't a great twist at all, no.
Mark: It was very.
Mark: It wasn't.
Mark: We've seen it a million times.
Mark: But the film was great.
Mark: Whoever edited it, I don't know, I can't
Mark: I didn't see
Mark: the name
Mark: But they did a fantastic job
Mark: they did.
Gav: I did get a bit bored
Gav: after the first bit I thought it set up really well and then I it
Gav: felt I don't know the same thing sort of going over and over.
Ben: Yeah it didn't really go anywhere.
Mark: Yeah
Gav: But that was that movie and then we watched a movie called Species, a French movie, which I uh
Gav: for one moment in that movie I love the fact that she became super
Gav: for 20 minutes.
Gav: I thought that's fucking brilliant.
Gav: I was like keep her, she's well
Gav: good.
Ben: I think it was fucking fantastic.
Ben: It
Ben: was excellent.
Gav: Um we didn't really
Gav: see how it all started
Gav: without spoiling the movie obviously, but it didn't really see how it all started really
Gav: did we?
Gav: There was no original.
Ben: Yeah, there was no origin story.
Ben: Which is good because it was a good movie.
Ben: I'd be interested in seeing
Ben: in a sequel
Ben: or an
Ben: or
Ben: an
Ben: origin.
Gav: Yeah
Gav: absolutely
Gav: um
Gav: about
Gav: this French lady
Gav: uh
Gav: who starts as a uh
Gav: trainee
Gav: uh the
Gav: doctor and um
Gav: basically starts to notice that there's
Gav: more
Gav: people around her
Gav: In the
Gav: coming in, uh have got the same sort of problems
Gav: with lots of bleeding, sweating
Gav: blood, blind me.
Gav: That's a thing.
Gav: And and then she ends up having it as well, so she looks into it more than
Gav: other stuff happens.
Gav: But I don't want to spoil it, but that was actually a really enjoyable film.
Gav: Um
Mark: like
Mark: the substance
Mark: you will probably like this film.
Mark: It it feels
Mark: this
Mark: it's got a similar vibe.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Oh
Gav: agree.
Ben: And if you're
Ben: yeah if you're
Ben: if you're a bit queasy at
Ben: sp
Ben: some special effects this one's gonna really
Ben: Do you in?
Gav: What's some
Gav: what some good scab pulling, that's for sure.
Ben: Great scab pulling.
Ben: Scab burning as well.
Ben: Melty burning scab pulls.
Ben: Melty burning scab
Ben: pulls.
Gav: Um
Gav: but yeah, that's right
Gav: first.
Gav: Um
Gav: and yeah.
Gav: Yeah it's it's pretty good.
Gav: We've got a few freebies, got a few free hammer
Gav: tote bags and things and um some other bits and balls but yeah it's pretty good as always um
Gav: and I guess we'll be back again next year.
Gav: But anyway
Gav: back to you in the studio
Gav: Gavin
Gav: Dan
Ben: See ya.
Ben: Bye.
Gav: Thanks for that, Gav.
Dan: Oh, thanks, Gav.
Dan: Thank you for that.
Dan: I'm appreciate you waiting all this time to give us the updates on uh
Gav: that's really good of you.
Gav: Appreciate
Gav: you're quite uh
Gav: you've got quite a handsome voice it sounds like from here, but you know that might
Gav: This would be me, Karen.
Dan: Good radio voice, yeah.
Dan: Um
Dan: okay, well, what we'll do is
Dan: go into our trailer now for
Dan: our movie.
Dan: Face
Dan: for
Dan: radio and a voice for
Gav: 60
Gav: times.
Dan: Um, okay.
Dan: So
Dan: we're going to our trailer now for The Watcher in the Woods from 1980.
Dan: Or
Dan: was it 1981?
Dan: I'll get into that when we get into the
Dan: details of it
Dan: Um
Dan: and obviously we've got a little bit of a blurb from Holly, I mean come back from the trader as to why she
Dan: selected this.
Dan: So
Dan: Trader
Dan: Man
Dan: If you are
Dan: if it is a got
Dan: I don't even know if this
Dan: trader's got a trader marks on it.
Dan: Is there a trailer man
Gav: here?
Gav: Do we have a trailer man that plays the trailers?
Dan: Yeah, you know
Dan: You know, no trailer man is like in a world where
Dan: werewolves exist.
Dan: I thought
Gav: Bill Murray, we
Gav: we used to have Bill Murray in the corner, we've now also got in another corner of Trailer
Gav: Man.
Gav: It
Gav: just plays
Gav: trailers for us.
Gav: Play.
Gav: There you go.
Dan: Don't say Bill Murray's name, you'll invoke him and he will be back.
Dan: I've not given him my new address because I don't want him round here.
Gav: He's around someone else's house.
Gav: Oi
Gav: Jane, what?
Gav: Fucking
Gav: there's Bill Murray's down here on the sofa.
Gav: Saying that's when he's when's he on.
Gav: What's he on about?
Gav: What
Dan: when I sold my old house I left them the fridge, the cooker
Dan: and Bill Murray
Dan: in the shed.
Gav: Anyway, it is
Gav: a trader.
Gav: For this thing.
Gav: Oh yeah.
Gav: Take it easy.
Gav: Take it easy.
Gav: Take it away.
Gav: Oh my god.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Something happened in these woods.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Something that has never been explained.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: And it's happening again.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Now.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Did you hurt yourself?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Oh, it's just a little cut.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: What sort of person are you?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Sensitive?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Do
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: you sense things?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: The past pursues the present
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: like a recurring dream.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: What began as a game
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: ended
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: when a young girl vanished into
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: thin air.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: That was my daughter's name.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: What do you think happened to Karen?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: I think she's still out there.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Karen
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: is trying to come back.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: What did you say?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Karen
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: outside there.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Don't you understand?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: It's someone else!
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Only Jan can help
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Karen.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: But who's going to help
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Jan?
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Betty
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Davis.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Carol Baker, David McHallow, and Lynn Hawley
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Johnson.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: Whatever happened to my Karen
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: could happen to you.
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: The Watcher
THE WATCHER IN THE WOODS Trailer: in the woods.
Dan: The Watcher.
Dan: in the Woods
Dan: from 1980, rated
Dan: a PGE for parental guidance because it's Disney
Dan: House of Mouse
Dan: Only an hour and 24 minutes, although the version really most people watch is 80 minutes long, just over an hour
Dan: really.
Dan: Here's the synopsis
Dan: When a family moves to a country home, the young girls experience strange happenings that have a link to an occult event years in the past.
Dan: We've all been there.
Dan: Everyone's moved to a
Dan: country home.
Dan: It's happened in the Amateurville.
Dan: It's happened in loads of movies.
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: And this
Dan: weird shit's happened.
Dan: It's directed by John
Dan: Hoff
Dan: or Hoof.
Dan: Uh and also Vincent McAbeattie
Dan: But John
Dan: Elf
Dan: is famously directed
Dan: Legend of How House with Roddy McDowell.
Dan: And he was actually selected by
Dan: Disney themselves to direct this because he'd done such a great job of that and they wanted the
Dan: same sort of spirit.
Dan: Um
Gav: does
Gav: it confuses me 'cause I think you had a uh uh I think you'll probably get on to it for
Gav: I was watching a little thing on this uh uh
Gav: where
Gav: yeah you kind of had
Gav: Like creative differences.
Gav: You had a certain execs
Gav: one to tone
Gav: down, and then other creators wanted to keep the whole sort of ho
Gav: folk
Gav: horrory
Gav: sort of thing there.
Gav: And it does feel like uh
Gav: uh
Gav: w
Gav: who
Gav: did they think the audience was?
Gav: So then they're you're making it PG but and it's trying they're trying to do something different
Gav: but I'm sure you could get on to but it just seems like who was the audience, do you know what I mean?
Dan: Yeah, well I definitely put a pin in that because I definitely want to get discussing that and this is there's an interesting backstory and certainly something I don't think I've ever heard happen before
Dan: uh with regards to the cinematic release of this.
Dan: But before we get into that, obviously Holly, thank you for selecting this.
Dan: I'm sorry we didn't we're not doing both.
Dan: But Holly did back in the day send me just a quick message with why she selected this.
Dan: Obviously she was originally going for a Betty Davies
Dan: double bill.
Dan: But Holly does
Dan: set does say
Dan: that she first watched Watcher
Dan: in the Woods really, really young, as I think a lot of us did, and she had it on videotape.
Dan: It used to be really really scary for me
Dan: Obviously it's not scary now, but it still leaves me with a weird creeped
Dan: out feeling and I think we can all agree, Holly, that it I get that because
Dan: when
Dan: you
Dan: watch a film at a young age, it sticks with you, yeah.
Dan: Um
Dan: She says Betty Davies is just as scary as she can be in this one, and she is.
Dan: She's very cross and she's very creepy, Ollie
Dan: says.
Dan: Anyway, she says, I hope you enjoy that one.
Dan: And
Dan: If you've not seen it before, tell me what you think.
Dan: Obviously we have seen it before.
Dan: But thank you very much, Holly, for letting us know why you've selected this.
Dan: A lot of our patrons tend to pick movies that they
Dan: watched as kids.
Dan: Um
Dan: that
Dan: that's great, you know.
Gav: I think this adds to my
Gav: uh uh
Gav: liking of
Gav: horror films in woods.
Gav: I I
Gav: I myself have
Gav: I feel like I have a natural bonding with the woods uh
Gav: for whatever reason.
Gav: Uh
Gav: people have with
Gav: the C
Gav: I have it.
Dan: You're part
Dan: big foot, I told you this
Gav: And I've always got the wood, I guess I could say.
Gav: Um
Gav: Borking mad.
Dan: I was
Dan: I was drinking some Pepsi.
Dan: Barking mad
Dan: who said
Dan: that.
Gav: Uh uh
Gav: uh
Gav: anyway
Gav: Uh
Gav: sorry about that.
Gav: I didn't mean to throw
Gav: you off right then, but it's quite amusing to watch.
Gav: Shame
Gav: this isn't a video cast, isn't it?
Gav: Uh and I I I think it uh
Gav: added to my liking of wood
Gav: uh
Gav: and the horror movies in the woods
Gav: and I like to film
Gav: horror movies in the woods as well if you hadn't noticed.
Gav: Um
Gav: uh
Gav: yeah and does real
Gav: it has
Gav: it
Gav: It's really weird.
Gav: I mean
Gav: as a kid, I don't know what age I watched it, but I
Gav: from uh
Gav: very early on
Gav: I started getting into horror movies and I'd had like a list in my head the ones I've seen, mainly hammer
Gav: horror type Dracula movies
Gav: So I didn't have many things to compare
Gav: to, but I remember the
Gav: remember this one being
Gav: just very atmospheric and felt hammery in a way.
Gav: It was British, setting the countryside in the woods
Gav: and just creepy stuff going on and I didn't know folk
Gav: horror at the time, but this is very much a folk
Gav: horror movie.
Gav: Um
Gav: and it just felt otherworldly
Gav: but in the confines of a world I know
Gav: the British countryside woodland area.
Dan: Yes.
Dan: Um
Dan: I mean
Dan: you watched this with your grandma, I think you said
Dan: your grandmother.
Dan: Um
Dan: and I
Dan: Used to rent this from the local guy at the corner shop who had
Dan: um
Dan: videos to rent.
Dan: Excuse me, I'm still getting over the wood comment.
Dan: Um me and my sister would rent this out
Dan: The first
Dan: time we rented it, we were
Dan: I think we were too scared to finish watching it because we were very young.
Dan: And when you rent a Disney film
Dan: You know, it clearly says Disney on it.
Dan: You you don't expect to be terrified.
Dan: Excuse me.
Dan: Um
Dan: however we were very scared.
Dan: I I was probably about eight, nine.
Dan: So
Dan: it was very easy to scare me.
Dan: And then we rented it out a few more times.
Dan: And we
Dan: it was kind of like the thrill of
Dan: knowing the first time we'd seen it, it scared us.
Dan: It never scared us as much after that.
Dan: Probably saw it.
Dan: half a dozen times.
Gav: It's funny when you used to go back
Gav: down
Gav: to the video shop and you used to
Gav: like r
Gav: re-rent movies.
Gav: It was so funny, wasn't it?
Dan: It was 25p for one night, um, this guy.
Dan: So
Dan: back in the day.
Dan: So it was
Dan: very easy.
Dan: We'd save our
Dan: pocket money and just rent it out.
Gav: Just
Gav: going
Gav: back the next week and then going, oh I'm gonna fucking rent that movie cat, it's really good.
Gav: And just rent
Gav: the same one, it's so funny.
Gav: Yeah
Dan: I know.
Dan: Um
Dan: I don't think I saw it again after my sort of pre
Dan: the age of ten.
Dan: Uh
Dan: oh sorry, post the age of ten
Dan: until
Dan: probably about
Dan: ten
Dan: years ago
Dan: I re
Dan: rewatched it
Dan: and it's no
Dan: it's not on Disney Plus
Dan: and it never will be.
Dan: Um
Dan: Disney don't like
Dan: it
Dan: Um, there's a couple of films that will
Dan: never be on Disney Plus.
Dan: A few of them
Dan: have got quite racial undertones
Dan: for its
Dan: time.
Gav: Oh
Gav: right.
Dan: Um
Dan: Disney
Dan: Disney didn't do
Dan: hor
Dan: horror
Dan: they don't like that side of things they're a family studio
Dan: they've done obviously the black hole
Dan: which has got quite dark themes in it
Dan: death
Dan: robots
Dan: Um
Dan: that is on Disney Plus, if you haven't seen that, and that's quite dark.
Dan: They did the Black Cauldron, the animated
Dan: 80s uh
Dan: film which bombed
Dan: 'Cause people went to watch the Disney movie at the cinema and it was full of dark wizards and horned demons.
Gav: Do you remember
Gav: the black hole?
Dan: That's what I just said, the black hole.
Gav: Oh, sorry, I thought you said the black cauldron.
Dan: That was the second one I said.
Gav: Oh sorry.
Gav: Oh
Gav: fucking
Gav: hell.
Gav: Sorry.
Gav: Don't apologize.
Dan: Um
Dan: so they
Dan: doubled in horror is where I'm going, but but this was probably their most
Dan: horror movie that
Dan: that they've done.
Dan: And in fact, it was originally
Dan: a a a a a novel, which
Dan: it's a sort of novel I probably would have read at school.
Dan: I never did, but looking at the cover of it and everything, it's the kind of novel they give you an English class
Dan: to read for homework over a couple of weeks.
Dan: Um
Dan: and
Dan: when the producers got hold of this, they were like, we need to make this into a movie and they approached Disney of all studios.
Dan: They actually went they
Dan: actually went to the the heads of Disney and said
Dan: This
Dan: is gonna be the next exorcist.
Dan: Why are you going to Disney
Dan: and pitching that?
Dan: But they said this is gonna be the next exorcist.
Dan: Did I mean the
Gav: popularity?
Dan: I think
Dan: I think they meant
Gav: In the field of child
Gav: child
Gav: children possessed in the horror
Gav: and popularity and stuff, yeah.
Dan: Yeah, because
Dan: Disney
Dan: aren't gonna put
Gav: They're doing what Disney
Gav: do
Gav: did
Gav: recently, what you were saying earlier on in the show, trying to make some money.
Gav: That's what they were doing.
Dan: I mean don't forget Disney were
Dan: going bust really
Dan: until
Dan: 15 years ago.
Dan: They weren't doing
Dan: very well
Dan: at arrival, you know, um
Dan: now they own the fucking half the fucking world.
Dan: But
Dan: um
Dan: Yeah, it's really interesting.
Dan: They also pursued, as I said, John Hoff
Dan: to direct this movie based on his his movie The Legend of Hill House, which he'd
Dan: he'd um
Dan: he
Dan: directed.
Dan: And then
Dan: then they started filming it
Dan: Obviously they secured Betty Davies, which is
Dan: pedigree, and you went you discussed
Dan: how this film had that hammer feel that
Dan: and it is quite a classy feel to it because
Dan: Betty, she's
Dan: Whenever she's in a movie.
Dan: She's like John
Dan: Saxon as we discussed earlier.
Dan: If she's in a movie, it's gonna be probably worth a watch.
Gav: And it gives it the pedigree as well.
Gav: She's been in quite a lot of good movies, good
Gav: actor
Dan: But they started filming this movie uh at Pinewood
Dan: Studios in 1979, um
Dan: and
Dan: they didn't really know how to deal with the end of
Dan: the book.
Dan: They they
Dan: shot multiple endings.
Dan: And this is where it gets really interesting.
Dan: There was a couple of scenes they removed, a couple of endings they toyed around with.
Dan: They released it cinematically
Dan: Um
Dan: in nineteen eighty, April nineteen eighty.
Dan: And
Dan: ten
Dan: days later
Dan: It wasn't doing very well and it was getting really negative reactions.
Dan: They removed it from theatres.
Dan: So this is a movie that was
Dan: completed and put in theatres.
Dan: They removed it after just over a week.
Dan: And they spent another million p
Dan: million pine
Dan: million dollars
Dan: reshooting the ending.
Gav: They thought that was gonna
Gav: but
Gav: Ha
Gav: ha how
Gav: that's ridiculous
Gav: because
Gav: word of mouth is already out there.
Gav: Uh
Gav: I guess I guess the internet
Gav: 's not there yet, so it's a s only a small amount of people would have watched it, I suppose
Gav: But that's crazy to
Gav: re shoot an ending and put it back out again then, thinking that that's gonna solve the problem.
Dan: It took eighteen months for them to do the reshoots and then get it back out in theatre, so
Dan: by this point it was October
Dan: nineteen eighty one.
Dan: So that's why it's a little bit like
Dan: when did this movie came out?
Dan: Because officially it was released in nineteen eighty, but then it was removed just over a week later and put back out in nineteen
Dan: eighty one.
Dan: But they spent a million dollars
Gav: treating it like a test audience almost
Dan: And they couldn't get the same actors.
Dan: You don't notice it, of course, but that's why the ending is so abrupt in this twenty
Dan: this one hour, twenty-minute ending.
Dan: um
Dan: Betty Davis they can get her back from what I understand.
Dan: Um
Dan: and they even
Gav: Yeah
Gav: th
Dan: there's a few shots apparently where it's the back of certain actors and the
Dan: so that's why certain characters just vanish from it
Dan: towards the end because they just reshot the ending.
Dan: But isn't that crazy?
Dan: Like they don't do that anymore.
Dan: They delay a film now.
Dan: Like even Marvel, a big studio like Marvel will say
Dan: Shit, we're gonna have to delay this movie by six months and chuck another fifty million at it.
Dan: But you
Dan: certainly don't ever hear and
Dan: I don't think I've ever heard of a film being pulled out of cinemas, reshot
Dan: And then put back out there eighteen months later.
Dan: Especially without delay
Gav: a year and a half delay
Gav: is
Gav: ridiculous.
Dan: And unfortunately
Dan: This new ending
Dan: just didn't hit with anyone either.
Dan: And the biggest
Dan: criticism
Dan: this movie gets is the ending is just really muddled.
Dan: Now I like the ending and we'll get into that when we review it.
Dan: Yeah, apparently
Dan: there are
Dan: over a dozen different endings.
Dan: They toyed with
Dan: over a dozen different edits
Dan: of how to end this.
Gav: scripture
Gav: making
Gav: when you start making a film I find it's
Gav: it's cause it's
Gav: it's always rushing
Gav: because they're trying to make money.
Dan: But it's based on a book.
Dan: The but
Dan: it's
Dan: already there
Dan: The book was a bestseller.
Dan: Just follow the book then.
Dan: Exactly.
Dan: It's a bestseller.
Gav: You have to adapt
Gav: books slightly, but like, come on.
Dan: So
Dan: um
Dan: obviously it's been released now on VHS in the 80s, the version I would have seen.
Gav: That's why they're saying the comparison to Exis, because Exis was obviously a book first, wasn't it?
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Oh yeah, that's probably
Dan: actually
Dan: Um, they've never released any of the other endings.
Dan: There are some deleted scenes and a few stills from some of the other endings on the DVDs in the Blu-rays.
Dan: Anchor Bay actually released uh
Dan: special
Dan: edition
Dan: DVD, but
Dan: It's just a really interesting
Dan: footnote that
Gav: I have it on DVD, but
Dan: did you?
Dan: Um I've never
Gav: long
Gav: time ago.
Dan: I've only ever watched it on streaming
Dan: or
Dan: Well you obviously you rented it on the HS back in the day.
Gav: So
Gav: a couple of years ago
Gav: I I put it on eBay and sold it
Gav: actually.
Dan: Um, it did get a slightly better reaction than
Dan: when it was first released, when it got re-released 18 months later, but still
Dan: considered a bomb
Dan: um
Dan: and because of that
Dan: Disney will never put it on Disney Plus
Dan: they
Dan: don't like the demonic
Dan: spooky undertones
Dan: to it they try and stay away from that
Dan: Um, yeah, and it's just really a really interesting footnote really for me that that
Dan: I didn't realize that that had happened until researching this.
Dan: So Holly, thank you for sort of
Dan: you know, I love this behind the scenes shit and um I thought that was really interesting and I've certainly like I said I've just never heard of a film being pulled out of the cinema
Dan: and then put back out a year and a half later.
Dan: That's absolutely crazy
Dan: really.
Dan: Um
Dan: Especially a big big Disney film with Betty Davis in it, you know.
Dan: It would have been all the hype and everything and then it would have been gone away.
Dan: And imagine if you were
Dan: you saw it in the first ten
Dan: days.
Dan: It would be like the the an early version of the Mandela effect.
Dan: You'd be like, oh no, I definitely saw this film with Beck David and everyone would be like, what
Dan: are you talking about?
Dan: And then when it's re-released, you're like, oh this is the film I was telling you about, but the ending is changed.
Dan: What's
Dan: This isn't the ending I remember.
Dan: There's no internet or anything to
Dan: do any research back in the day.
Dan: Um
Dan: So yeah, you saw this at a young age, I saw this at a young age.
Dan: I totally get what Holly says about um
Dan: you know
Dan: these kind of movies do stick with you.
Dan: And
Dan: Before we get into the details of it and the cast, etc.
Dan: it's obviously a lot of it takes place in a beautiful mansion. We
Dan: love the movies, like the hammer movies that are set in that.
Dan: on the edge of a beautiful wood.
Dan: And all the
Dan: it's got to be said that the shots within the woods are fantastic with the
Dan: the way the light's streaming through the trees
Dan: At times
Dan: it felt like I was watching an 80s slasher, particularly because it's like a blonde lead.
Dan: It's because you got some like
Gav: POVs through the trees a little bit, yeah.
Dan: Yeah, it
Dan: really had that sort of eight
Dan: I and I said to my wife who was watching some of it with me while I was making my notes, I said
Dan: Do you know that this isn't like a horror
Dan: slasher sort of movie?
Dan: And she was like, Oh, what is it?
Dan: And I said, It's a Disney movie
Dan: But it looks cause
Dan: not to be crude, but the the
Dan: the older sister is walking around without a bra
Dan: and she's sort of running through the woods
Dan: And
Dan: screaming and
Dan: shouting and it just looks like
Gav: a sinister
Gav: sort of score at the beginning of it.
Gav: We may as well get into it with the with
Gav: the family in the car travelling
Gav: along.
Gav: Uh
Gav: and you've
Gav: got
Gav: Tension from the like I said the
Gav: points of view from the woods
Gav: where it would be like Michael Myers watching you
Gav: or Jason
Gav: That's what it's alluding to and it is
Gav: you gotta
Gav: think that then you
Gav: just
Gav: this is before though
Gav: Friday thirteenth
Gav: Or
Gav: it's
Dan: yeah, they filmed it in 79, so it's around at the same time.
Gav: Uh
Gav: yeah, so Halloween's kind of out though.
Gav: So
Gav: um
Gav: it's interesting, definitely that
Gav: uh like you generally find at times
Gav: different movies look around them at or
Gav: the movies that
Gav: just come out previously
Gav: What's popular or what's
Gav: a
Gav: good way of shooting something like
Gav: like
Gav: through the woods, like
Gav: through the trees, like it's someone's point of view
Gav: Um so you generally find around the time of certain movies coming out they all seem to have the same sort of look or
Gav: or or m
Gav: feel
Gav: in some way.
Gav: So yeah, this definitely does have that
Gav: for sure
Dan: And I've never I've never read the novel, so I
Dan: I don't know if the ending is can
Dan: can be compared to the novel, but
Dan: I mean
Dan: spoiler
Dan: as we always say, but the ending kind of deals with potential
Dan: interdimensional beings or aliens, which is
Dan: incredibly forward for the
Dan: 1979-1980
Dan: You know, body swapping, moving into a different dimension, what you thought was a ghost story all along
Dan: may have actually just been some kind of alien
Dan: accident
Dan: or some
Dan: kind of cult thing.
Dan: It's it's very
Dan: it is a muddled ending but I quite like it.
Dan: In some ways it's a little bit going back to Demon Warp.
Dan: It just kind of throws loads of shit in at the wall and whatever sticks
Dan: sticks and I
Dan: I kind of like the shit that sticks to the wall at the end of this movie.
Dan: It does end but
Dan: really abruptly.
Dan: There was only fifty seconds left
Dan: of
Dan: the the runtime and then the credits came up and I was like
Dan: oh fucking hell they really chopped
Dan: this
Dan: to pieces didn't they?
Dan: It's an hour and twenty
Dan: minutes
Dan: You know, and a minute of that is the the credits, you know.
Gav: I like
Gav: I like some of those some of those eighties
Gav: movies where you're like
Gav: Just sitting there
Gav: like
Gav: this could carry on and
Gav: find out a bit a bit more about this.
Gav: Oh that's the main peak.
Gav: Okay, that
Gav: we're gonna chill out, settle in for a bit more.
Gav: I might oh
Gav: might pour
Gav: myself another drink.
Gav: You know, and
Gav: also
Gav: in credits
Gav: like
Gav: Oh, okay.
Gav: Um
Gav: right, uh
Gav: and yes to sort of make an end into
Gav: yourself.
Gav: This also has an
Gav: uh
Gav: a girl from uh
Gav: the Halloween movies.
Gav: She was
Gav: um
Gav: in the original Halloween film, in fact, at the same age.
Gav: Oh
Dan: is that um
Gav: She's getting babysit by uh Jamie Lee Kurtz.
Gav: The little
Gav: dark haired girl in it, yeah?
Dan: Oh the little girl, yeah.
Gav: She's an original Halloween.
Gav: She with
Gav: her with Tommy,
Gav: they
Gav: they're getting uh uh babyset, aren't they?
Gav: And
Gav: she didn't say that.
Gav: And she's in the
Gav: obviously the most recent Halloween ones, the middle one, where she's in the bar with Tommy Jarvis.
Gav: Not Tommy Jarvis, that's Friday 13th, Tommy, whatever it
Gav: was.
Gav: Uh
Gav: talking about Michael Myers and shit.
Gav: Yeah, so
Dan: now
Dan: her name is Kyle Kyle Richards.
Gav: So as I saw I was like, oh that's that girl from Halloween.
Dan: The only other people really of note in this are Betty Davies obviously and David McCallum, which a lot of people will know from The Man from
Dan: Uncle.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Invisible man TV show.
Dan: Very
Gav: familiar face,
Gav: yeah, for sure.
Dan: Yeah, um
Dan: but yeah let
Dan: let's get into the this movie then and uh and the spooky stuff that's going on in the woods
Dan: the watcher
Dan: in the woods it sounds like
Dan: it sounds Jimmy Savile but it's
Gav: Watcher in the Woods.
Gav: I'm watching you from the woods
Dan: The dogger
Dan: in the woods.
Dan: So
Dan: ,
Dan: we
Gav: start with
Dan: spooky music.
Gav: Did I tell you about uh
Gav: well I was walking a dog one time and uh
Gav: Did I tell you about this one?
Dan: Oh
Gav: Oh.
Gav: I was working
Gav: at Doctor.
Gav: No, not that story, don't worry.
Gav: I'll never
Gav: get
Gav: heard.
Dan: That's another watch and
Gav: unless I do a stand-up
Gav: show.
Gav: Um
Gav: and I was walking dog
Gav: and I was like
Gav: beans
Gav: and then I heard
Gav: beans.
Dan: Oh Jesus Christ.
Gav: I was like, what the fuck?
Gav: And I think it was
Gav: um
Gav: Someone
Gav: uh
Gav: mental disability
Gav: was
Gav: just mimicking
Gav: what
Gav: he said from a garden, I think.
Gav: But the thing was there's no one then nothing else to
Gav: say
Gav: nothing and it was so weird because it happened straight away.
Gav: I went beans and beans
Gav: and I was like,
Gav: the fuck
Gav: It was so weird.
Gav: It was like an X-Foles episode type thing, sank in the bushes
Gav: just
Gav: like but I
Gav: it never happened again and I
Gav: nothing else from that.
Gav: That was just that and it's like
Gav: I wasn't imagining it and I was like, the hell was that?
Gav: I think Elijah heard it
Gav: actually.
Dan: I I remember walking beans when he was very young when you
Dan: not long after he was.
Dan: Oh no, bless him.
Dan: But I remember walking in the woods in the woods with him
Dan: and
Dan: I th
Dan: I said oh let me let me take him for a little bit and I had him on the league because I've never had a dog
Dan: so it's nice for me to walk a dog occasionally
Dan: and I was walking along and you guys were a bit behind me and then all of a sudden this man went, oh that's a beautiful little dog.
Dan: Will you sell him
Dan: You sell them to me.
Dan: I was like, what?
Dan: And I told you about it and you said, Oh,
Dan: we've had that once or twice actually.
Dan: You said a couple of people were like, Oh, I'll buy your dog off you
Dan: Well
Dan: you can't just go up to somebody and say, can I buy your dog?
Gav: Well he's little,
Gav: he's a very pretty
Gav: dog, but it's
Gav: also
Gav: things
Gav: that people nick him as well though, that's the trouble.
Gav: Steal your dog.
Gav: Yeah.
Gav: Anyway.
Dan: One thing then about this about this music, um, I don't know if you notice this.
Dan: I mean the music's great for the most part, but there is one, there is a a little bit of a
Dan: a jewels
Dan: ripoff at one point.
Dan: Um
Dan: There's a definite
Dan: John Williams
Dan: copyright infringement act,
Dan: some of the music a bit
Dan: later on.
Dan: And it does get a bit slashery at some point as well.
Dan: Um, but it is quite good
Dan: spooky music and you've got that
Gav: That's what I'm
Gav: saying.
Dan: Where did you hear that humming scene, you know?
Gav: Uh on the video
Gav: shop I did
Gav: I covered a silver bullet and I
Gav: noticed this time, because obviously we've covered it in the podcast, but I noticed at this time that the their music was
Gav: du
Gav: dum
Gav: whenever the werewolves
Gav: near.
Gav: Dum.
Gav: But I was like, dum.
Gav: And I was like, hang
Gav: on, that's Jaws, but the notes around the other way around.
Gav: And
Gav: it
Gav: was
Dan: It's the vanilla
Dan: ice get
Dan: out of jail free card, you know.
Dan: Just add an extra
Dan: ding ding ding ding-ga-ding ding.
Dan: Ripping off Queen.
Gav: Oh Milly Vanilli
Gav: Oh
Dan: many vanilli.
Gav: Go
Gav: on.
Dan: So we start off with spooky music
Dan: Shadowy
Dan: Woods
Dan: 'cause obviously this ty
Dan: the title is The Watcher in the Woods, so we're gonna get a lot of woods in this.
Gav: Uh uh most
Gav: movies
Gav: the first im
Gav: first images we see
Gav: sets
Gav: the theme of the movie.
Gav: movie generally and this
Gav: straight away is
Gav: like creepy
Gav: creepy eighties
Gav: folk horror
Gav: you know
Gav: and it's British as well so you got the British woodlands so it's different trees
Gav: rather than
Gav: some
Gav: some
Gav: You know, and
Gav: you do
Gav: it's not something you notice
Gav: very much, but uh
Gav: uh
Gav: a wo
Gav: uh woodland in Friday
Gav: thirteenth, the trees and the
Gav: stuff like that
Gav: are gonna be different
Gav: To trees
Gav: in England, so
Gav: you know, so it does straight away you're like, Oh it's British Woods, you know
Dan: Yeah, definitely.
Dan: Um
Dan: it was filmed in Buckinghamshire, so
Dan: definitely.
Dan: And
Dan: at no point does this feel like a Disney movie.
Dan: It's very strange.
Dan: No point.
Dan: There's no stamp on it of Disney, you know?
Dan: There's always a bit of a Disney stamp.
Gav: It just goes straight into it, doesn't it?
Gav: A family traveling somewhere to a house that they've bought.
Dan: Well they're they're they're th they're viewing it.
Dan: Oh yeah, so
Gav: it's very cheap as well, apparently.
Dan: Yeah, so this family
Dan: or an American family composed of
Dan: sorry, pardon the pun, composed of a dad who is a composer and
Dan: musician called Dave
Dan: uh Paul Curtis, played by David McCallum, and his wife, uh Helen, and they've got two daughters, Jan and Ellie.
Dan: And
Dan: and
Dan: f
Dan: because of work, because he's a pianist, not penis, a pianist, and uh a com composer of music.
Dan: I mean we've all dreamed that that would be our job.
Dan: Only fans can make it come
Dan: true.
Dan: Um
Dan: I've heard.
Dan: Uh
Dan: so they
Dan: they are looking at houses that they can rent.
Dan: in the beautiful English countryside.
Dan: And they come across this fucking
Dan: so they're showing this sprawling
Dan: mansion, this absolutely definitely haunted, beautiful
Dan: giant mansion.
Gav: You could do your own.
Gav: Only Dan
Gav: 's
Dan: Brilliant.
Dan: You put your hand up for that.
Dan: So they arrived
Dan: And
Dan: uh
Dan: already
Dan: straight away as they're pulling in the house to
Dan: view in to park up and view it, we get the POV
Dan: Michael Myers, Jason, they're in the woods.
Dan: Someone's in the woods watching them.
Gav: It's the
Gav: Watch
Gav: Sure in the Woods.
Gav: Well, well, okay, the movie's called Watch in the Woods.
Gav: So you've rented this out for a video
Gav: shop and it's like it's Watch in the Woods.
Gav: And then you get
Gav: home and there's like there's
Gav: POV from the woods you're like
Gav: this
Gav: must
Gav: I don't know what what the what was the
Gav: the burb on the back of the cover would have been if how much
Gav: info it gave you
Gav: but if it was keeping it slightly secretive
Gav: you'd think possibly it was a slasher film like you're saying.
Dan: Yeah, it does feel like that at times.
Dan: Um
Dan: it feels like if
Dan: Hammer did
Dan: get a slasher.
Gav: Oh
Gav: a blade in the dark is the Italian movie
Gav: if a composer goes to a house to compose music and stuff, uh you know, which
Gav: are a slasher film
Gav: But then again, I suppose you've got to change Lynn, which is the same thing, but that's a ghost movie.
Dan: Well they find out that this this house is incredibly cheap to rent.
Dan: And
Dan: they're a bit un unsure why that is.
Gav: And the owner's really picky.
Gav: Which seems really weird that the owner's so picky but yet
Gav: so cheap.
Gav: It's like
Gav: well
Gav: Why don't you make it like m way
Gav: more expensive then you have less people coming along so less people to go fish
Gav: you're so fucking picky
Dan: Well this is just it.
Dan: The r
Dan: one of the reasons it's so cheap is because when you rent this giant property, you will also unfortunately
Dan: have Betty Davis living on the same plot of land.
Dan: Yeah,
Gav: unfortunately
Gav: I live here as well.
Gav: And I'm gonna be picking who does it, but it's cheap
Gav: So
Gav: this is
Gav: this is like weird as fuck.
Gav: This whole situation's weird as fuck.
Dan: And has
Dan: as Holly pointed out, she is very cross, very scary
Dan: and grumpy and creepy
Dan: in this movie.
Dan: And we'll find out why.
Dan: She's gone through a trauma, but we'll find out why.
Gav: Uh
Gav: uh
Gav: right outside of the house
Dan: Yeah, a weird looking tree from the distance.
Dan: It looks like it could be a big creature, doesn't it?
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Um
Dan: and the girls are sort of
Dan: I'd say they're like
Dan: Maybe 1617, the older one and the other one's maybe like twelve.
Dan: I don't know.
Dan: But they're kind of like, oh this is cool, this is exciting.
Dan: You know, they're looking around the house.
Dan: David McCallum
Dan: 's like, there's a great piano in here for me.
Dan: This is fantastic.
Dan: Um
Dan: Um
Dan: and the girls are like, oh
Dan: I reckon it's haunted.
Dan: Yeah, it must be haunted.
Dan: So they're kind of
Dan: excited about it.
Dan: And they do look around the house and Betty
Dan: Davis basically says, yes, you can rent this house.
Dan: But while that's sort of
Dan: the adults having that discussion, the kids
Dan: sense, particularly the older girl, Jan, something in the woods.
Dan: She looks out and she sees like a flash of light, um, and they're not quite sure.
Dan: you know, what
Dan: it is they've seen.
Dan: The
Dan: the the lefting agent goes and knocks on um
Dan: Bessie Davis's door and she's sort of like
Dan: I've told you not to knock on the door
Dan: more
Dan: She's like yeah but these
Gav: I do like one
Gav: thing with Betty Davis being a bit grumpy,
Gav: another
Gav: inst
Gav: instance
Gav: instance
Gav: where uh he's there and he just starts playing some uh laid back
Gav: soft jazz on the piano.
Gav: Down.
Gav: She's just like, oh my
Gav: I don't like that.
Gav: It's just
Gav: like
Gav: so like Snooty England
Gav: where where
Gav: uh someone an en
Gav: an English person is easily offended by something
Gav: which doesn't really matter in the whole complexity of life.
Gav: And it's just because he's playing laid back
Gav: jazz rather than like a bit more classical.
Gav: She doesn't like it
Gav: and she's like, Oh, I don't like that.
Gav: It's so funny.
Dan: He makes a rude joke.
Dan: He makes a rude joke.
Dan: She's like, I thought you'd have played something a little bit more
Dan: operatic than that.
Dan: He says, well
Dan: I tend to I tend to get a little bit more
Dan: he says something like
Dan: a little bit more saucy
Dan: in the evenings and he sort of winks at his wife and his wife goes a bit embarrassed.
Dan: Obviously the kids don't get what he's meant saying and Betty
Dan: Davies is like
Dan: How dare you
Dan: talk about rude things?
Gav: How dare you talk about
Gav: me?
Gav: It was
Gav: as an evil thing.
Dan: Um, whil, the older daughter, is looking out the window and they're
Dan: because they're excited about the possibility they could be living here and the bedrooms are cool,
Dan: like I said, she spots this glowing light in the woods.
Dan: Um
Dan: and then all of a sudden the window just goes smash, but it doesn't smash smash, it just sort of cracks in the shape of a triangle
Dan: Illuminati triangle.
Dan: Um
Dan: and it's quite like a bit of a jump scare.
Dan: I remember being as a kid, we were like, whoa, what's that?
Gav: Well Betty Davis got a little bit more.
Gav: Takes under
Gav: wing
Gav: this girl a little bit and the agent thinks like, oh, she must remind
Gav: you must remind her of her child that she lost
Dan: Yeah, because
Dan: she says
Dan: she had a daughter and they said
Dan: she says yeah um I won't get into it now
Dan: but she had a daughter.
Dan: Um
Dan: so yeah Betty David says to her, you
Dan: girl
Dan: and this is like basically how she
Dan: the
Dan: side
Dan: the family can live here.
Dan: She goes, Hugo, you
Dan: you've got a good pair of eyes on you.
Dan: Do you
Dan: see things?
Dan: Do you
Dan: and then she sort of just goes, Do you sense things?
Dan: Do you sense things?
Dan: Do you hear things?
Dan: And she basically just says to her
Dan: Have you got ESP?
Dan: But
Dan: without you saying it.
Gav: I
Gav: I
Gav: I'd be a bit creaked out.
Gav: Are we gonna rent this place?
Gav: This woman's got to live with us and she's saying
Gav: we
Gav: do
Gav: you
Gav: go!
Gav: Your
Gav: eyes
Gav: Do you see things?
Gav: I I don't know about this dad.
Gav: I
Gav: I don't know.
Gav: It's this
Gav: the woman's gonna
Gav: this is her conversation.
Gav: I don't know.
Dan: And then Jan, the older daughter, does then say
Dan: You know, they've already agreed that they're going to rent the house at this point, but Jan says, by the way, mum, I've got a really strange feeling.
Dan: But they're an American family, by the way.
Dan: I've got a really strange feeling
Dan: thinking about this house.
Dan: An eerie feeling, like, and she looks
Dan: away.
Dan: Something terrible happened here in the past.
Dan: Well let's rent it.
Dan: Great, let's rent
Dan: Zach
Dan: then
Dan: fantastic.
Dan: So they do.
Dan: It's decided.
Dan: And we cut to like, I don't know, a few weeks in the future now, where they've all they're all moving in, they're unpacking, it's fun, they're excited.
Dan: This is gonna be my bedroom, this is gonna be my bedroom
Dan: Um
Dan: and
Dan: um
Dan: Betty seems to
Dan: at one point they see Betty Davis
Dan: looking out to the woods and it says, she
Dan: says
Dan: What is she saying?
Dan: She says something to the woods like, I trust that you'll treat them kindly or something like that, you know, or w watch over them or something.
Dan: Are you happy?
Dan: Are you going to leave them in peace?
Dan: Like, who are you speaking to in the trees?
Dan: Bigfoot?
Dan: Like,
Dan: could be great.
Dan: Betty Davis in a Bigfoot movie.
Dan: Absolutely
Dan: take my money
Dan: right now.
Gav: Betty Davis in the Bigfoot.
Gav: Betty and the Bigfoot.
Dan: Betty
Dan: and the Bigfoot.
Dan: Harry and the Henderson
Dan: is
Dan: Betty
Dan: and the Bigfoot.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: And it's her illegitimate son.
Gav: Or Betty Davis is actually a female Bigfoot, so it's Bigfoot Betty.
Dan: She just shaves every day.
Dan: So the family have moved in, um, they're unpacking and
Dan: Jan, the older
Dan: sister again, she
Dan: she finds this strange mirror
Dan: She looks in the mirror, doesn't she, Gav?
Dan: And all of a sudden there's
Dan: she's got no reflection in the mirror.
Dan: It's really great how they've done this with a camera angle.
Dan: Because you don't see any cameras going
Dan: down, you don't see her reflection either.
Dan: They were
Dan: it was
Dan: I don't know how they did it.
Gav: No, and I I
Gav: didn't know
Gav: any
Gav: thought to it really.
Gav: It's all done with mirrors, sir.
Gav: Um
Gav: that's all I'm gonna say to get out of it.
Gav: Um
Gav: it's very much
Gav: they're putting across this movie very much as a haunted house movie, aren't they?
Gav: They really are.
Gav: Wherever
Gav: like a haunt is
Gav: something in the woods, which you
Gav: now alone
Gav: to
Gav: if you watch this, you might think it's a ghost and the ghost is in the woods as well or something, you know.
Dan: Well yes, because once her reflection is gone in the mirror, the next thing she sees is a blindfolded blonde girl in the mirror.
Dan: a ghostly girl.
Dan: And obviously it freaks her out and then the mirror smashes, the triangle appears, then
Dan: then the whole thing breaks to pieces.
Dan: And then her mum and dad come in and they're like, for fuck's sake, Jam, we've only just moved in and you're already breaking mirrors
Dan: And she says, well, you know, sorry.
Dan: And then what somebody says that's seven years bad luck.
Dan: And David McCallum says, well, I don't know.
Dan: I don't believe in that superstition
Dan: because
Dan: I broke a mirror on the day I married your mother.
Dan: And uh it's not
Dan: been nothing but good luck.
Dan: But
Dan: good luck.
Dan: And his wife says
Dan: ,
Dan: not
Dan: sure about that.
Dan: So there's a little bit of tension between them.
Dan: But I think they're good.
Dan: They're getting at it a couple of times a week, I would
Dan: say.
Gav: G
Gav: sexually
Gav: or
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: Oh.
Dan: That's just my insight.
Dan: Um
Dan: so
Dan: um
Dan: they go to bed, the girls go to bed, um
Dan: and
Dan: their
Dan: bedroom
Dan: window faces directly onto this dark
Dan: creepy fucking woods
Dan: that's got like
Dan: something in it watching them and she's lying in bed looking out the window
Dan: where this cracked
Dan: triangle is on the
Dan: and she's just looking out
Dan: there like
Dan: I would be put
Dan: shutting the curtains or putting the blinds down at this point.
Dan: I wouldn't be just staring out to the woods, do you know what I mean?
Dan: I don't know.
Gav: I dunno, it it is quite creepy but quite it's quite n nice as well
Gav: though
Gav: But I like that though.
Gav: It's a nice thing though, like just there
Gav: looking out
Gav: in it
Gav: 's your
Gav: nothing s
Gav: can protect you.
Gav: It's quite scary, isn't it?
Gav: So I think in the woods
Gav: come come get you, like a big twig.
Dan: Jesus.
Gav: That's a twig.
Dan: Big twig.
Dan: We get a really cool spooky moment and there's a couple of times this sort of thing happens now
Dan: where um
Dan: one of the girls is asleep, the younger girl is asleep
Dan: and she's talking in her sleep.
Dan: And Jan goes over and says, what are you talking about?
Dan: And she says, I wasn't talking, it was you that was talking in your sleep.
Dan: So they both heard a voice
Dan: and both thought it was the other one talking in their
Dan: sleep.
Dan: And that's quite cool.
Dan: And that again that does happen a couple of times later on.
Gav: And it's very uh uh
Gav: The Haunting as well.
Gav: Like they say
Gav: Legend of Hellhouse director, but very like The Haunting as well, that movie.
Dan: Yeah,
Dan: love
Dan: that movie.
Dan: Um
Dan: so
Dan: lots of spooky things going on.
Dan: Um
Dan: The
Dan: they
Dan: keep cutting back to the woods of the woods
Dan: whenever we end.
Dan: It feels like a TV movie because whenever there's like a scene that ends, you then have like a quick shot to the woods
Dan: where the advert
Dan: break would be.
Dan: And maybe
Dan: maybe it
Dan: was
Dan: they were thinking it was going to be a TV movie?
Dan: I don't know.
Dan: Obviously it got released in theaters
Dan: as we discussed.
Dan: I don't know.
Dan: Um
Dan: then
Dan: we get that whole puppy
Dan: scene.
Dan: So
Dan: Jan has met a guy called Mike, a hot guy in the village called Mike, who rides a scrambler bike, a motocross
Dan: bike, which we see more of later.
Dan: And she sort of gets friendly with him, he's more her age, and he's got a puppy that he wants to sell to
Dan: well
Dan: not sell, I don't I think he just gives it to her little sister.
Gav: I've got a puppy.
Gav: It's not a good
Gav: look.
Dan: I
Dan: I know.
Dan: This
Dan: is your public service announcement, listeners.
Dan: If a man tries to give you a puppy or entire
Dan: shooting
Dan: ,
Dan: he probably hasn't.
Gav: No,
Gav: if you're trying to get into a van because uh
Gav: damn broke
Gav: dam
Gav: broke up then, so
Gav: yes.
Gav: Oh
Dan: sorry, sorry
Dan: But
Dan: um
Dan: Ellie
Dan: loves this puppy and she she goes into this
Dan: barn or this shop and she starts writing something.
Dan: She goes into a trance and she starts writing something on the window.
Dan: And it's Nerak.
Dan: And she's like, what's
Dan: the older sister?
Dan: Says, what's this?
Dan: She's like, that's the puppy's name
Gav: I love the fact that on the glass window
Gav: they just
Gav: just can't uh
Gav: work out its
Gav: Karen
Gav: backwards.
Gav: It's like fucking
Gav: come on
Gav: people
Gav: come
Gav: on
Dan: I know, and this is obviously a bit of a
Dan: and this probably would have been in the book, but this feels like a bit of a shining.
Gav: Well
Gav: the shining again though was 81.
Gav: So
Gav: And they're supposed to take it
Gav: from the book.
Gav: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan: So she's got this puppy, she's called it Narak, and one of the women outside,
Dan: Mike's mum.
Dan: Oh, she sees Karen
Dan: 'cause she stood outside.
Gav: I gotta say, like, even Sarah has red
Gav: rum tattooed on the back of her
Gav: uh
Gav: legs.
Gav: Uh I've never seen a uh uh a Karen
Gav: backwards
Gav: tattooed on anybody
Dan: Well, Karen
Dan: has different meaning these days, doesn't it?
Gav: I guess, yeah.
Gav: Um
Dan: but yeah, so the little girls called this Narek, which is Karen
Dan: backwards, and Mike's mum
Dan: who
Dan: has something to do with
Dan: the missing girl.
Dan: Um
Dan: she
Dan: sees the word
Dan: Karen
Dan: the right way around, freaks
Dan: out,
Dan: runs
Dan: off.
Dan: We won't f
Dan: we won't find it anymore.
Dan: But yeah.
Dan: But
Dan: but again this is marketed at
Dan: I guess at children.
Dan: So that would have blown my little mind as
Dan: like a nine, ten
Dan: year old seeing
Dan: Oh my god, that's the word.
Gav: It's like a twist if you're there.
Gav: Oh my god.
Gav: much
Gav: a dawning
Gav: moment
Dan: well like I say
Dan: Ellie says well I heard you say it to her big sister and his
Dan: big sister
Dan: I didn't say this name
Dan: Narek
Dan: And I certainly don't know anybody called Karen, so I don't know why you
Dan: called the puppy that, but
Dan: okay, cool.
Dan: No worries.
Dan: It would have been weird if she called the puppy Karen.
Dan: Imagine a puppy just called Karen.
Gav: That would be weird
Dan: I do like it when people call their pets um
Dan: I
Dan: uh
Dan: heap
Dan: of names.
Gav: Yeah, there was a dog the other day that I uh
Gav: what was it?
Gav: Paul or Dave?
Dan: It's just funny.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: It's just funny when someone's in the
Dan: bar
Dan: and they're like, Steve.
Dan: Come on, Steve.
Gav: Steve one.
Gav: It it was Steve.
Gav: It was Steve.
Gav: It was
Dan: A dog
Dan: good
Dan: Steve.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Amazing.
Dan: Amazing.
Dan: Um, so
Dan: um
Dan: Dan
Dan: 's looking out
Dan: later on, Jan looks out the window and sees Ellie
Dan: 's obviously very happy playing with her puppy.
Dan: Um
Dan: she's sort of on the outskirts of the woods.
Dan: And then all of a sudden her parents are like, We're off now to
Dan: one of the big towns in London.
Gav: By the way, uh when they're at the farm that's a very point of view again, like a serial killer
Gav: and the with
Gav: the music it was uh th that
Gav: at times you've still got someone looking at them which is the
Gav: Watching the woods presumably.
Dan: Yeah, you feel like there is
Dan: because there's a bit in the barn and you feel like this could be a Friday
Dan: the thirteenth movie, you know?
Dan: This is definitely a gateway.
Dan: If you saw this at a young age
Dan: You would have seen things you liked
Dan: like the Friday the 13th
Dan: The Slasher
Dan: stuff
Dan: but also the hammer
Dan: stuff as well so it's definitely a good gateway movie in that respect.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Um
Dan: So
Dan: her parent
Dan: the parents go
Dan: as they do quite a lot of this movie for work they have to drive away quite a lot leaving the two young girls
Dan: in this giant haunted mansion with only Betty Davies and a puppy for company.
Dan: And Jan sees her
Dan: um
Dan: sister playing
Gav: on the edge of the wood.
Gav: It's alright,
Gav: a yin yang then really, isn't it?
Gav: I'm sorry, oh a lovely puppy to play with
Gav: today in the house because
Gav: there's no internet, there's no nothing to do.
Gav: I'm in the fucking woods
Gav: Oh, but there's Betty Davis to contend with.
Gav: Like
Gav: moaning about shit.
Gav: But there's a puppy.
Gav: Oh, but there's Betty Davis.
Gav: Be
Gav: right
Gav: old mixture.
Gav: We
Dan: 'll leave you kids, you'll be alright.
Dan: Fine.
Dan: We'll be
Dan: back in two
Dan: days.
Dan: You're fine.
Dan: There's plenty of food.
Dan: No.
Dan: Chan
Dan: looks back out the window
Dan: and her sister's gone
Dan: and so's the puppy.
Dan: And all that's left is a little radio, AM
Dan: radio playing a really funky
Dan: discoby.
Dan: And she's like, Ellie!
Dan: Ellie, where are you?
Dan: And of course, this is
Dan: now
Dan: where it looks.
Dan: It feels like a slasher movie, because she's running through the woods.
Dan: She's trying to find her sister.
Dan: She can't find her anywhere in the woods.
Dan: Um
Dan: It definitely feels like a slasher at this point.
Dan: She eventually finds her sister.
Dan: Says, I've been calling you for ages.
Dan: Like, where the hell are you?
Dan: They have a little bit of an argument
Dan: in the
Dan: woods.
Dan: Um, and all of a sudden this strange
Dan: supernatural light starts coming through the the branches of the tree
Dan: um
Dan: and then we get these big flashes of light
Dan: that it feels like only Jan can see.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: And then one of these flashes of light makes Jan sort of slip and she falls into a big pond.
Dan: This is so fucking dark in a kid's Disney movie now.
Dan: All of a sudden she opens her eyes underwater.
Dan: Betty Davies
Dan: is just there
Dan: stabbing her with a big
Dan: branch.
Dan: Trying
Dan: to keep her under the water.
Dan: And you're like, what the fuck is going on?
Dan: And she's like
Dan: Screaming under water.
Dan: Betty
Dan: David's
Dan: big eyes are just
Gav: I know and uh
Gav: so uh
Gav: us
Gav: along with the girl being pushed under by the stick, it isn't.
Gav: She's actually trying to help her and free her
Gav: We just don't know this at first.
Gav: We're just like, fucking hell, Betty Davis, I know you're not unhappy, but Jesus, you invited us here.
Gav: Now you're
Gav: like literally trying to kill me
Dan: Yeah, is
Dan: we
Dan: cut
Dan: to
Dan: her
Dan: back
Dan: at Betty Davis' house, drawing off with a towel.
Dan: And she's like, Oh my god, Betty Davis, when you were
Dan: prodding me with that big branch, I thought you were just trying to drag me.
Gav: I love that everybody when they talk to her they just say her
Gav: by her own
Gav: uh
Gav: a whole name as well.
Gav: Betty Davis.
Dan: Betty Davis.
Gav: What what's for tea Betty Davis?
Dan: But it's explained that she was trapped under a log in the
Dan: in the um
Dan: pond and the only way to free her was to push her under a bit more
Dan: to get her legs out
Dan: so they could then get her out of the water.
Dan: Yeah, so um
Dan: she saved your life, her little sister says.
Dan: And she's taking care of Jan
Dan: and she says, your
Dan: uh little sister's puppy, Nerak.
Dan: That's a strange name.
Dan: And Jan says, yeah, I'm not sure why she called it that really, but it's
Dan: it's basically Karen
Dan: backwards.
Dan: And
Dan: Betty
Dan: does her
Dan: I had
Dan: a daughter called Karen.
Gav: And I had no idea that her name backwards would be that.
Dan: And then Jan
Dan: says, was she ever blindfolded?
Dan: Or was she blindfolded when she died?
Dan: And Betty says, who's told you about this?
Dan: How should you know about these things?
Dan: I knew you could send stuff.
Dan: Um
Dan: and she doesn't really give
Dan: much
Dan: away at this point.
Dan: She just says
Dan: Jan
Dan: says, I just feel like
Dan: she looks out to the woods.
Dan: Someone is watching us from the woods.
Dan: It's almost that Peter Griffin
Dan: moment
Dan: where it says the title of the movie.
Gav: Yeah, yeah, I watch that one.
Dan: So Betty does now tell the story.
Dan: She says her husband died in the war
Dan: and Karen
Dan: was her only daughter.
Dan: She was 16 years old
Dan: Um
Dan: and there was an eclipse that night.
Dan: There was a night the night she died or vanished.
Dan: And all they know is that she was sort of playing in the woods and
Dan: there's an old church in the woods
Dan: And they share like a flashback to
Dan: lightning striking the church
Dan: right bang on the middle of the eclipse.
Dan: And then some kids run out of the church.
Dan: The church catches
Dan: by.
Dan: And nobody ever
Dan: saw her again.
Dan: Nobody found Karen
Dan: 's body.
Dan: Just very
Dan: strange.
Dan: They searched the woods, they searched the the ruins of the church, and Karen
Dan: was just
Dan: was just nowhere to be found.
Dan: Um
Dan: Nobody, nothing.
Dan: And she said, as far as I know, they were playing blind man's bluff
Dan: or a game that involved
Dan: some
Dan: kind of blindfold.
Dan: And obviously Karen's been
Dan: um sorry
Dan: Jan's been seeing like these images of this ghostly girl in a blindfold.
Dan: So it's a very sort of Sunday afternoon
Dan: Disney TV movie at this point, but
Dan: very nice, very
Dan: cozy.
Dan: She tells her parents later on, they
Dan: obviously don't believe her.
Dan: Um, you know, you're being silly.
Dan: There's no such thing as ghosts.
Dan: We've come here for your dad's work and you're being disruptive.
Gav: Stop talking to us at the dinner table about your days, events.
Gav: We don't care.
Gav: We're just gonna talk about your dad's
Gav: work.
Gav: Brilliant.
Dan: So we
Dan: got to
Dan: a very exciting scene
Dan: though.
Dan: It's very
Gav: adrenaline pumps, actually.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: Fast and Furious.
Dan: This is this is
Dan: This is as X games as you got in 1980 in a British Disney horror film.
Gav: Yeah, totally.
Dan: Set the scene for us, Gav, what's going on?
Gav: It's like a motorbike rally, so all the kids are there, there's just stuff going around.
Gav: And
Gav: uh the fella
Gav: that uh
Gav: they like, um
Gav: uh
Gav: what
Gav: the
Gav: Mike.
Gav: Yeah, Mike.
Gav: He's there and he's he's gonna be competing.
Dan: And the girls are all the girls from the village are like, oh my god, these guys.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: And they're doing big jumps off of these big dirt mines.
Dan: Um
Dan: and Jan's trying to get a better look at Mike as he goes around.
Dan: And then something really strange happens
Dan: where
Dan: the girls get separated and Jan is stood on this big rock.
Dan: for a better view
Dan: and then she hears her sister
Dan: scream or shout her name or something
Dan: and she looks around and she's like
Dan: oh I wonder why she's
Dan: It's distressed.
Dan: So she gets off the big rock and
Dan: runs over
Dan: to
Dan: her little sister.
Dan: Just as she gets to her
Dan: little sister, she says, what
Dan: is it?
Dan: Why'd you call me?
Dan: She said, I didn't call you.
Dan: I didn't say anything.
Dan: But somebody did
Dan: because
Dan: and good job as well because one of the boys comes off his bike and his bike flies through the air, smashes into that rock where it literally
Dan: she
Dan: just stood
Dan: and the whole thing explodes
Dan: And
Dan: yeah, it's uh
Dan: somebody saved her life.
Dan: Somebody was watching from the woods
Dan: and saved her life.
Gav: Indeed.
Gav: Mmm.
Dan: So
Dan: the girls
Dan: discuss this a bit later
Dan: and
Dan: Jan
Dan: definitely thinks
Dan: This is Karen, this
Dan: this dead daughter.
Dan: She thinks
Dan: I think Karen
Dan: is the one that's watching us from the woods.
Dan: And she starts to
Dan: build a theory that Karen, her spirit
Dan: is out there somewhere and needs to be released or rescued.
Gav: And Mike
Gav: asks
Gav: the mum.
Dan: He says
Dan: my mum was with her the night she died.
Dan: That's why she freaked out when she saw the word Karen.
Dan: Let's go ask my mum about it now.
Dan: So he he sits down with his new girlfriend.
Dan: Not the first
Dan: race
Dan: first meeting with your potential future in-laws.
Dan: Mum, tell me about the night that girl died when you were
Dan: doing a
Dan: bitch roll in a church
Dan: Because my girlfriend thinks she's seen the ghost of her.
Dan: But
Dan: um
Dan: initially his mum sort of says, well look, I just think she ran away from home.
Dan: We don't really know anything about it.
Dan: But then eventually she recounts what happened that night.
Dan: And
Dan: we get a little snippet of it, we get more of it later, but but spoiler is
Dan: basically drawing an eclipse.
Dan: They decided to do this weird initiation ceremony to this Karen
Dan: girl
Dan: where they it was just more of a silly game really
Dan: mucking around.
Dan: They blindfolded her in a church.
Dan: And they they said some words
Dan: and said, you know, is she worthy?
Dan: And then as they said that, lightning struck the church, the bell fell down, it all caught fire.
Dan: She's kind of like
Dan: she's vanished.
Gav: In a way, that
Gav: with
Gav: the children.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: Doing the sacrifice.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Yeah, yeah.
Dan: So they've got a little snippet of information now as to what potentially has happened.
Dan: to this Karen
Dan: Karen
Dan: girl.
Dan: But we still don't know.
Dan: We
Dan: 're still under the impression this is a ghost story.
Dan: A and I guess
Dan: nine
Dan: ninety
Dan: nine percent of this is a ghost story.
Gav: But yeah, 'cause there's a scene in the moment when they go riding through the woods and the horses get spooked and
Gav: at that point I'm like, is it watching
Gav: Like
Gav: travels
Gav: as a spirit.
Dan: Like a horse whisperer.
Gav: I don't know.
Gav: Just like travels through the woods and then
Gav: Casey
Gav: goes to the house.
Gav: I don't know
Gav: You don't really know what the defined antagonist of this film is yet.
Gav: You're still probably thinking it is something like that.
Dan: I mean yet again the parents go away.
Dan: So David McCallum and and and the woman that played
Dan: the mum, they had a good
Dan: name
Dan: Easy ride.
Dan: They probably only filmed for a few days because they're always going off.
Dan: A lot of their scenes are them going, right, we're off again.
Dan: See you later, we're off in our car again.
Dan: Leaving just the two young girls and Mike who says
Dan: let's go
Dan: horse riding in the woods as Gab's just said.
Dan: So
Dan: um
Dan: they're walking through the woods
Dan: and he says to
Dan: the younger dull
Dan: uh sister, won't you go off her head for a little bit?
Dan: She's like, oh, okay, so you guys can uh
Dan: get to know each other better.
Dan: So she does, the
Dan: little sister goes off on her horse and he says to Cap
Dan: to Jan
Dan: look
Dan: I've tried to talk
Dan: tried to talk to my mum about this, but
Dan: what did you say
Dan: then?
Gav: Finger
Gav: in
Dan: He said that
Dan: he doesn't finger
Dan: in.
Dan: Not this point.
Dan: He says to Jan, look, I've talked to my mum about this whole thing and she just won't give me any more information and she's been really weird.
Dan: I've never seen her out like this.
Dan: And as they they bring this subject up, the horses get really spooked by another strange light in the woods and a strange wind that blows as well.
Dan: And it wasn't Mike farting.
Dan: And it wasn't Mr.
Gav: Burns
Gav: either.
Gav: So they actually call in Molden
Gav: Scully
Gav: to actually
Gav: those guys actually come to Springfield to investigate
Gav: the woods, the glowing thing in the woods.
Gav: Have to watch that episode.
Gav: It's great.
Dan: Okay.
Dan: Yeah, that sounds like one I should watch.
Gav: Absolutely.
Gav: They they put Homer on a treadmill
Gav: and uh
Gav: um
Gav: uh
Gav: Scully
Gav: 's like
Gav: Mulder, well what's the point of this uh exercise?
Gav: And he says
Gav: It's
Gav: yeah, I can't remember exactly but it's like it's just like a lava laparade, it's just really relaxing and it's just home
Gav: its black
Gav: going.
Gav: Um
Dan: so because of this blinding light and
Dan: strange wind that blows
Dan: Uh Ellie, the younger sister's
Dan: hall
Dan: was
Dan: gets spooked quite badly and starts just bombing along
Dan: really quickly.
Dan: So
Dan: they start chasing her
Dan: It
Dan: she's heading towards the road
Dan: where some poor guy is driving his truck along
Dan: and all of a sudden his horse comes out in front of him so he swerves and he tips his whole truck over.
Dan: He's okay and the horse is okay.
Dan: But she starts heading towards a graveyard
Dan: then.
Dan: Jan falls off of her horse
Dan: and
Dan: they they manage to sort of stop the horse in the end.
Dan: And they
Dan: they come across the church, the burnt out sort of church
Dan: where the ritual took place.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: And we get
Dan: this is where we get the jewels, they
Dan: John Williams
Dan: type music come in now a little bit.
Dan: Um
Dan: So they go into the Burn
Dan: Out
Dan: Church
Dan: and Jan
Dan: sees the glowing triangle, the same triangle that
Dan: it is, which she's seen
Dan: into
Dan: mirrors and windows
Dan: And she's thinking, oh, I'm getting clues from this Karen
Dan: spirit now as to what's
Dan: what's going on.
Dan: And she looks um
Dan: looks around and she sees a ghost girl inside a coffin.
Dan: The same ghost girl, Karen, with a blindfold
Dan: on.
Dan: And then
Dan: some crazy guy.
Dan: Oops, I don't know where
Dan: a guy called Tom.
Dan: Tom the Hermit.
Dan: He's been mentioned once or twice.
Dan: It's Gala
Dan: Defgurst.
Dan: He just starts coming up
Dan: to
Dan: like some old permit with his hand
Dan: stretched out
Dan: like
Dan: 'cause
Dan: he thinks
Dan: So the story is
Dan: he was there that night as well as a boy
Dan: when Karen
Dan: vanished and he thinks
Dan: This girl is Karen
Dan: Come Back
Dan: from
Dan: the Dead, because she looks a lot like Karen
Dan: Blonde.
Dan: Sort of sixteen-year-old girl.
Dan: So he's just like
Dan: outstretched hands
Dan: like
Dan: it's
Dan: you you're back
Dan: uh but Mike approaches me
Dan: like get out of here you old pervert
Dan: bastard
Dan: and um
Dan: tom
Dan: runs off
Dan: and um
Dan: Mike
Dan: Mike sort of has a look around the church with them
Dan: and then all of a sudden another great big wind smashes through the church, smashes some windows.
Gav: This
Gav: makes, you know, is it now like is it a demon
Gav: What is it?
Gav: We still don't know what it is yet, you know.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: And Jan says, all I know is I'm seeing
Dan: circles and triangles everywhere.
Dan: Because at one point these
Dan: two glass circles fall down off the wall of the church and they form
Dan: a solar eclipse because one has got a picture of the sun on it and one's got a picture of the moon on it and they kind of overlap.
Dan: So
Dan: you start to understand as an audience
Dan: that
Dan: something to do with the eclipse
Dan: and they've also mentioned
Dan: funny
Dan: enough
Dan: To tomorrow,
Dan: as in the film, tomorrow there's another
Dan: solar eclipse happening.
Dan: So it's
Dan: it's destined that
Dan: Karen
Dan: vanished during an eclipse and there's going to be an eclipse happening tomorrow for these guys.
Dan: So again, as an audience member, we're like,
Dan: okay, so something's going to happen here with the eclipse and everything like that.
Dan: But they don't know what it means, they
Dan: don't know what the triangles and the circles mean at this point.
Dan: Then we cut to a new character, Mr.
Dan: Keller.
Dan: who
Dan: was also a boy on the night that
Dan: Karen
Dan: vanished.
Dan: And Tom, the old hermit, goes up to me and says,
Dan: I've seen
Dan: I've seen her, I think she's back.
Dan: And he's like,
Dan: You're telling me that Karen's back, she can't be back.
Dan: It's just some girl that looks like a you
Dan: fool.
Dan: Um, and they discussed that night and he says, I've told you
Dan: it happened
Dan: 30 years ago.
Dan: You're never allowed to discuss it.
Dan: None of us ever discuss it.
Dan: So those kids have never discussed what happened that night.
Dan: They've never told anybody about it.
Dan: It's uh
Gav: manager.
Gav: I know what he did last summer scenario.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: Make a pact
Dan: Um
Dan: we get another fun scene now at a roller
Dan: coaster
Dan: uh
Dan: funfair
Dan: They're on a ghost train.
Dan: Supposed to be a jump
Dan: scare.
Dan: Didn't really make me jump, but
Dan: cuts to like a
Dan: inside of a ghost train and Mike and Jan
Dan: are on a date
Dan: And they're sort of going through the Hall of the Mirrors and the and all the roller coaster and everything.
Dan: And in the Hall of Mirrors, you get that kind of end to the dragon moment now.
Dan: But it's not Bruce Lee that appears multiple times around
Dan: Jan.
Dan: It is Karen
Dan: with her blindfold
Dan: on
Dan: And this time you can clearly see her mouthing the words
Dan: help me.
Dan: Help me.
Dan: And I remember this is one of the things that really
Dan: scared me as a kid.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Mirrors, you know, a girl sort of mouthing the words.
Dan: You can't hear it, you
Dan: just see, help me
Dan: Help me.
Dan: You can clearly hear us.
Gav: It's such a creepy movie, Disney.
Gav: Who's this for?
Dan: I know.
Dan: I know it really is.
Dan: Um
Dan: So yeah, she sees this girl again and she comes out and she says to my
Dan: look
Dan: this girl is definitely trapped and she needs help
Dan: wherever she is she's trapped
Dan: but she needs help
Dan: So she doesn't think she's still alive.
Dan: She knows she's dead, but she
Dan: thinks her spirit is sort of trapped in limbo and needs to be released, whether that is because
Dan: they find out the true story of what happened or whatever it is that it might be
Dan: But she needs to
Dan: get her released.
Dan: So Jan goes to visit Mr.
Dan: Keller, because she knows he was involved in it when he was a child as well.
Dan: And he says, I need to talk to you about Karen.
Dan: She needs help.
Dan: I've seen her.
Dan: I've seen her in mirrors.
Dan: It just basically tells her to fuck off.
Dan: Says, get
Dan: away from me, you crazy young girl.
Dan: I don't know what you're talking about.
Dan: So no adults are helping her, her parents are away, she's seen ghosts in mirrors, strong winds are blowing her sister off a horse.
Dan: It's all going on for her
Dan: Poor girl, she just wants to get fingered by Mike.
Dan: You know, but it's not happening at the moment.
Gav: No.
Dan: So Jan decides
Dan: I'll go into the woods
Dan: then.
Gav: Why not?
Dan: I'll go into the woods and see what I can find.
Gav: Get some more POV shots from the woods.
Dan: Yep, someone's following her.
Dan: And she goes there.
Dan: The reason she's gone there is she wants to get this because she knows this Tom guy.
Dan: He's good
Dan: I'll put this politely.
Dan: He's quite simple.
Dan: Um, so she knows she could probably extract some more information from him.
Dan: And last time she saw him was at this church.
Dan: So she goes to this church.
Dan: Tom?
Dan: Tom, are you here?
Dan: Tom?
Dan: We get a
Dan: classic cat
Dan: to jump
Dan: together.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Just a cat.
Dan: But it's Tom
Dan: 's cat.
Dan: A cat that he rescued.
Dan: So he turns up and he's like,
Dan: I rescue all these animals, so
Dan: he
Dan: does.
Dan: And he gives her a crow, a fucking crow
Dan: a crow.
Dan: He said, Hold my crow
Dan: a minute.
Dan: I
Dan: rescued that one too.
Dan: And
Dan: would
Dan: you ever hold a crow, Gav?
Dan: If you met a man called Tom in an old abandoned church and he handed you a crow.
Gav: Yeah, if he's holding it, yeah, no
Gav: one.
Dan: I don't know
Dan: man, crows are pretty gnarly.
Dan: Big beaks.
Gav: Yeah, uh
Gav: well, hopefully it won't
Gav: take your eyes out.
Gav: Or
Gav: or try and put his head
Gav: right in your mouth.
Gav: Yeah
Dan: Fucking hell.
Gav: Figure.
Dan: Whenever I think of crows
Dan: or ravens, I I think of that um
Dan: scene in uh
Dan: The Witch
Dan: where the crow is
Dan: eating her nipple.
Dan: Um
Dan: So
Dan: Jan was correct in that Tom is quite simple.
Dan: She does manage to extract some information from him.
Dan: Initially he's quite resistant.
Dan: He says, Oh, but Mr.
Dan: Kellars told me not to tell anybody about that night.
Dan: And you look just like her.
Dan: You're not, Karen, I know you're not now.
Dan: But I can't talk about it, I can't talk about it.
Dan: And then he says, All I can tell you is
Dan: the bell fell down, but before the bell had even hit the ground, Karen
Dan: wasn't there.
Dan: And that's why we never found her body.
Dan: She literally vanished into thin air
Dan: So this is even more intriguing now.
Dan: Well what the hell happened to her?
Dan: And Jan's desperate to find the truth.
Dan: He says
Dan: she says, why the blindfold?
Dan: Um
Dan: and he draws like a crack on the ground.
Dan: Sorry, a circle on the ground and says, we were doing Ring of Ring of
Dan: Roses.
Dan: And he describes what I said earlier basically, which is they were doing this hazing game
Dan: where
Dan: they were trying to initiate her into their gang, their silly little gang, and they did this pretend ritual, which happened to be on an eclipse, just as some lightning struck.
Dan: And as I've said, before the belt even hit the ground and before the church caught on fire
Dan: her body vanished, which obviously freaked these kids out, and that's why they've never told anybody about it.
Dan: And they've just grown up
Dan: pretending that never happened when they were kids.
Dan: Um
Dan: later on, Ellie, the little
Dan: sister, is singing a song.
Dan: humming it and Betty says
Dan: where
Dan: did you hear that?
Dan: Where do you hear that tune?
Dan: She says, oh I don't know.
Dan: I've just sort of heard it.
Dan: I think my sister might have sung it once.
Dan: She says, come
Dan: here.
Dan: And Betty Davis brings out this
Dan: uh
Dan: sort of music box
Dan: and
Dan: says
Dan: this belonged to my
Dan: currency.
Dan: It was her favourite
Dan: favorite tune.
Dan: That's her tune.
Gav: Betty Davis'
Gav: storyline's very like
Gav: cliche
Gav: though, isn't it?
Dan: She just delivers all the cliches all the way through this.
Gav: But then there's a daughter, oh that's uh
Gav: oh
Gav: that's what she used to
Gav: wrestle.
Gav: Oh
Gav: come here, I've got this music box,
Gav: that
Gav: 's the same song, oh yeah, it's all those cliches she's got.
Dan: She says to the young daughter, so your
Dan: sister's seeing things, but have you heard voices as well?
Dan: And she starts sort of really
Dan: getting quite cross with her, like, tell me, tell me, have you heard voices?
Dan: My Karen
Dan: You know, is my
Dan: has anybody heard from her?
Dan: And at this point, Jan comes in.
Dan: She tells Betty, look, stop, I know what's happened.
Dan: There was a ritual
Dan: on an eclipse.
Dan: Um
Dan: And Ellie
Dan: says, suddenly
Dan: gets
Dan: it
Dan: goes into a trance and she has a message.
Dan: And she just says this message, like it's like coming out of her mouth, but it's not really her.
Dan: And she says.
Dan: You must open the door in the chapel room.
Dan: You must open the door in the
Dan: chapel room.
Dan: And then she says, I'm not Karen.
Dan: Um
Dan: and at this point
Dan: it's quite stressful.
Dan: And this is where their mum happens to get back from work
Dan: She so she's walked into Becky David's cottage, which
Dan: I've got
Dan: for the tramps.
Gav: What's for
Gav: TE
Dan: And she
Dan: says, what's going on here?
Dan: You get
Dan: she's really cross and she wants to take the girls out of here because she thinks Betty's sort of corrupting them with these weird
Dan: stories and
Dan: you know that she's not happy about the way that they're acting and all that kind of stuff so she says
Dan: we're leaving him
Dan: we're leaving right now let's get in the car
Dan: but
Dan: They choose to leave
Dan: at the moment it gets pitch black outside
Dan: and there's a huge thunderstorm.
Dan: So they're
Dan: they're driving along.
Dan: three women, three girls, and
Dan: the car breaks down on a bridge.
Dan: Much like the scrambler bike incident, the motorbike incident, they
Dan: get out of the car just as lightning strikes the bridge and the whole bridge crumbles
Dan: with
Dan: the car
Dan: into
Dan: the
Dan: river.
Dan: So
Dan: another narrow escape for them there.
Dan: Um
Gav: we get like a
Gav: we do get like a POV around the house.
Dan: Somebody yeah, somebody creeping around the house.
Gav: So you're like
Gav: what
Gav: so i i
Gav: is that
Gav: POV
Gav: Karen
Gav: 's ghost?
Gav: That's what you
Gav: still like
Gav: who
Gav: who
Gav: 's
Gav: is is Karen
Gav: a bad person or a good person?
Gav: What
Gav: what
Gav: what's their goal?
Gav: Are they trying to hurt them?
Gav: Are they
Gav: not trying to hurt them?
Gav: What's
Gav: What's going on?
Dan: I think she
Dan: so
Dan: spoiler alert
Dan: she's basically trapped in some kind of limbo.
Dan: Another dimension it turns out.
Dan: And I think she's tr using
Dan: have you seen Interstellar
Gav: No, because of that, I feel like it's got
Gav: sad moments with uh him and his son, so I don't want to watch.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: But he basically tries to communicate from another dimension to his son.
Dan: And I feel like Karen
Dan: is trapped in this
Dan: limbo
Dan: and she's trying to sort of
Dan: At least get what happened to her
Dan: solved
Dan: so that people can rest and she can maybe rest as well.
Dan: So I think that's what the POV is.
Dan: It's
Dan: It
Dan: is her spirit, but not in a ghost way, as in she's just in another plane of existence, if that makes sense.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Jan
Dan: shouts
Dan: at the woods, you know, she says, please leave me and my sister alone.
Dan: Whoever you are, whatever you are, Karen, whoever you are.
Dan: Um
Dan: their
Dan: mum seems to be
Dan: Coming around to this now, this idea that this might actually be happening.
Dan: So
Dan: um
Dan: That night
Dan: Jan goes to bed and she starts dreaming about the ritual
Dan: and Karen
Dan: Ellie writes
Dan: on the mirror
Dan: in a trance, do
Dan: again tomorrow.
Dan: And she's like, you've written this on the mirror, what does it mean?
Dan: She's like, I didn't write this.
Dan: She's like, I've just seen you write, do
Dan: again tomorrow.
Dan: And then she figures out what's happening tomorrow.
Dan: An eclipse.
Gav: Repeat, repeat the ceremony, but with an eclipse.
Dan: And that's the key to this whole mystery
Dan: is they did this on an eclipse, the night of an eclipse.
Dan: Um
Dan: so
Dan: John
Dan: calls um
Dan: sorry
Dan: Jan calls Mike
Dan: And she says, this is my theory.
Dan: We need to get
Dan: Tom, Mr.
Dan: Keller, and your mum together, because they were the kids that did this ritual back in the day.
Dan: What was it like 30 years ago maybe?
Dan: And
Dan: they need to do it again
Dan: as adults
Dan: in the same church, right on top of the eclipse
Dan: So she goes and she begs Mr.
Dan: Keller
Dan: to do it.
Dan: Um
Dan: imagine this, imagine this girl goes, you know that thing you did 30 years ago when you were just mucking around in an old church and that girl sort of vanished or died
Dan: Do you mind doing it again?
Dan: 'Cause I've got a theory that she's trapped in limbo
Dan: and we could maybe free her or at least set her to rest.
Gav: But he knows that the
Gav: spooky goes on, he knows like her souls
Gav: are uh
Gav: uh
Gav: are still there.
Gav: He knows that.
Gav: So I think you probably
Gav: yeah
Gav: this is uh
Gav: it'd be like
Gav: no one ever comes here and decides to try and solve this thing.
Gav: I have to live this shit every day
Gav: And you uh
Gav: so I'm gonna take you up on your opportunity because no one ever talks about this shit.
Gav: The ghost
Gav: child.
Dan: So this is where the quite chaotic, quite short ending starts
Dan: really now.
Dan: So the three adults are persuaded to hold hands.
Dan: Jam takes the place of where Karen
Dan: would have been because she looks similar to her with a blindfold on
Dan: and they start repeating the exact words that they repeated all those years ago just as the eclipse hits.
Dan: uh
Dan: it
Dan: all starts all these weird lights start appearing
Dan: jam
Dan: starts floating up in the air
Dan: Mike's worried.
Dan: He's like
Dan: stop
Dan: break the circle now.
Dan: Break the circle.
Dan: But you can't seem to undo their hands.
Dan: And
Dan: it looks like she's about to disappear at one point.
Dan: um
Dan: Jan
Dan: and then they hear a voice
Dan: Karen's voice I'm guessing it is
Dan: sort of booming out
Dan: um
Dan: and it's coming from Ellie this time
Dan: and she says
Dan: I
Dan: swap
Dan: places I switched
Dan: places
Dan: I show
Dan: I was never meant to be here
Dan: and you're like what what is going on at this point
Dan: um
Dan: Who did Karen
Dan: switch places with?
Dan: And then more weird lights and more weird winds come in.
Dan: And it turns out that
Dan: And again, it's never explained if it's aliens.
Dan: I like to think it was perhaps interdimensional aliens or something.
Dan: But basically, because they
Dan: they happen to perform this crazy ritual during a lightning storm on an eclipse
Dan: they basically accidentally put
Dan: their friend Karen
Dan: into
Dan: another dimension.
Gav: Yeah, it's it's pretty out there, but I do like that idea though.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: Uh and they bring her back.
Gav: But why
Gav: But
Gav: when she comes back she's like
Gav: The PTSD that I'm gonna suffer from being in another dimension, you do not even understand.
Gav: Like her day to day has been in another dimension.
Gav: What's she doing?
Gav: What's she eating?
Dan: She's still sixteen.
Gav: Oh, so she's
Gav: time
Gav: just froze.
Dan: Yeah, so everybody else is age
Dan: like 30 years and she's still 16, like
Dan: her mother is suddenly an old lady, you know?
Dan: Um
Dan: it's a bit like in
Dan: um
Dan: the Marvel movies where Thanos
Dan: snapped
Dan: and half the world vanished.
Dan: But then they brought that half of the world back five years later.
Dan: They called it
Dan: the blip
Dan: in the Marvel world and um
Dan: those people are like dealing with PTSD.
Dan: It's like a bit of a
Dan: storyline that goes through them all.
Dan: No
Dan: suddenly you're back
Dan: to you.
Dan: You're the same age, but everybody else is aged five years.
Dan: Yeah, because he was frozen in an ice for years.
Gav: Yeah
Dan: Yeah, so it kind of ends with the interdimensional thing.
Dan: Um
Dan: ,
Dan: Chan is almost beamed up by aliens?
Dan: I don't know.
Dan: Is it aliens?
Dan: Is it an interdimensional alien?
Dan: Is it ghosts?
Dan: And then we cut to an a picture of the sort of a an image of the eclipse happening.
Dan: But Karen
Dan: is back.
Dan: So is Jan.
Dan: Karen
Dan: hasn't aged at all
Dan: Betty Day Caesar's daughter
Dan: and they hug
Dan: and then the credits kick in for 50 seconds and we're done
Dan: And you
Dan: can
Dan: understand
Dan: why.
Dan: I don't know what the
Dan: original
Dan: ending ending was.
Gav: No.
Dan: But if this is what they did, it I mean
Dan: From somebody who liked this film as a kid and somebody who likes kind of those themes, I'm happy with this ending, but I can understand why actual critics were like
Dan: what a mess of an ending.
Dan: Like what happened?
Dan: There's never nothing was explained
Dan: And even like
Dan: even the aftermath of Betty Davis having to explain to the authorities, well it's alright, I've found my daughter after 30 years.
Dan: She hasn't aged today, she's still sixteen.
Dan: You know,
Dan: it's just like
Dan: It is weird, but I quite like it.
Dan: I quite like it for that
Dan: weirdness.
Dan: I wish I knew what the original ending was
Gav: Yeah, totally.
Gav: Um I I've always thought of it a creepy movie.
Gav: I never
Gav: watched it much since watching it with my grand.
Gav: Uh I might
Gav: watch I think
Gav: I
Gav: I picked like I said, I picked it up on DVD and I watched it when I watched it then
Gav: And then then watch it again because it's it's it's quite tame nowadays.
Gav: It's not really something I would watch now.
Gav: Um
Gav: I would
Gav: go
Gav: saying
Gav: obviously harder
Gav: with actually some blood and death.
Gav: Um
Gav: But it's really weird like I said
Gav: who
Gav: was their audience target for this movie?
Gav: It's very
Gav: strange
Dan: Uh there's a campaign online
Dan: to try and get Disney Plus to put it on streaming, but they won't they've said they'll never do it.
Gav: They're not gonna do it.
Dan: They're not interested in it.
Dan: Um
Dan: if
Dan: you like this movie
Dan: Or
Dan: if you're unsure if
Dan: sorry, if you're unsure if you'll like this movie, if you've not seen it, if you grew up watching films like another Disney film, um, Escape to Witch Mountain.
Dan: uh
Dan: which is a great movie about two alien children who seem to have supernatural powers.
Dan: They remade it with a rock.
Dan: But the original is
Dan: great
Dan: Um
Dan: and it's kind of got elements of that in it as well, particularly because the ending is a little bit like alien, interdimensional, ghostly.
Dan: Um
Dan: Yeah, it
Dan: it's definitely worth a watch if you've never seen it.
Dan: It's an oddity
Dan: I think you'll get more out of it or you'll like
Dan: you'll appreciate it more if it's one that you saw as a kid and if you've never
Dan: like Matthew Godley, one of our patrons, he's never seen this.
Dan: He's either gonna love or hate this.
Dan: It's gonna be one of those ones that if you've never seen it
Dan: It's gonna go either way.
Dan: But then he liked Hansel and Gresel.
Gav: No, I think I think
Gav: uh
Gav: I think
Gav: as an older person, audience member,
Gav: going back
Gav: watching this now for the first time, I think you'd appreciate the uh
Gav: The Betty
Gav: Davis in it, the 80s field of it and stuff, I think you'd
Gav: probably appreciate it.
Gav: It's not it's not gonna
Gav: uh
Gav: set any
Gav: set any new records for anything.
Gav: But it's you know, I think
Gav: I think you know
Dan: I've just found some information on what some of the alternative endings were, if you're interested.
Dan: So one of them was
Dan: Jan
Dan: Vanishing
Dan: as well.
Dan: But they'd laid to rest
Dan: Karen, but basically had to sacrifice Jam.
Dan: So she's gone now as well.
Dan: So
Dan: they've lost two girls
Dan: Another one, they filmed
Dan: some
Dan: um
Dan: scenes with an alien.
Dan: So it was aliens, or at one point the idea was aliens.
Dan: So they
Dan: filmed some scenes with an alien creature
Dan: explaining a bit more about the other dimension as well.
Dan: I think that would have just been too much for kids in 1980
Dan: to try and get their head around interdimensional
Dan: alien
Dan: beings.
Dan: I don't know.
Dan: Um
Dan: and there's also some bits that they shot
Dan: that said it was more to do with witchcraft and Betty Davies may have had witch
Dan: witch blood in her
Dan: ancestry
Dan: and therefore
Dan: her daughter did as well.
Dan: So it sounds like a mess really
Dan: like
Gav: it sounds like Demon
Gav: Warb
Dan: It does sound like Demon Warp.
Dan: And also the reason that Betty Davis never came back for the reshoots
Dan: was because there was a 1980 actor
Dan: strike.
Dan: So she wasn't allowed to come back and do anything.
Dan: So they would have had her in the ending a bit more, but as it turns out, she just ran in and hugged her daughter.
Dan: Um
Dan: I'm gonna give it a thumbs up
Dan: of people who
Dan: either have seen it or haven't seen it for a long time.
Gav: Yeah, I'll give it a thumbs up.
Gav: Um
Gav: but it
Gav: it it's
Gav: like
Gav: I
Gav: said
Gav: it's
Gav: Not doing anything amazing, it's not inventing the wheel.
Gav: But it is
Gav: it is folk
Gav: horror, it's British, it's
Gav: eighties
Gav: It's got a creepy woodland vibe to it.
Gav: So it's got some
Gav: it's got more things better than the
Gav: and the
Gav: bad
Gav: for sure.
Gav: It's a
Gav: set in isolation out in the country.
Gav: It's fine
Gav: Yeah,
Dan: Red has only
Dan: seen the past
Dan: and you've got the pedigree of, you know, Betty Davis and
Dan: David McCallum
Dan: in it.
Dan: And a great director as well.
Dan: Um
Dan: so yeah.
Dan: There you go, Holly.
Dan: That's our review of Watch You're in the Woods.
Dan: Thank you so much, Holly, for picking that.
Dan: I forgot uh to give you
Dan: a crown.
Dan: God, I'm so out of uh touch
Dan: that um I'll have to send you a real crown in the post
Dan: Uh you'll have to give it back for the next patron.
Dan: But um
Dan: forgot to give you your fake crown to wear for the episode, I'm so sorry.
Gav: Bastards.
Gav: Um
Dan: but you have been
Dan: this episode's papa
Dan: pa
Dan: patron, Holly, so thank you so so much.
Dan: Uh
Dan: well now it's time for
Dan: our new segment which we've only done once.
Gav: I can't even remember.
Gav: Do we actually have a theme for
Gav: Oh
Gav: to we just make it up, I can't remember.
Dan: We don't have a theme, we just went we just went pop
Dan: up
Dan: up fiction.
Gav: And then we went into it, yeah?
Dan: We did.
Dan: So basically
Dan: pop fiction is our new segment where we
Dan: we alternate between me and Gal
Dan: bringing a piece of pop fiction, usually from the the 80s, but it might be from the 90s or 70s.
Dan: Something that was out there in the zeitgeist
Dan: Something that really hit hard.
Dan: The first
Dan: segment we did was me last episode.
Dan: I did the garbage belt kids and the phenomena of the garbage belt
Dan: kits.
Dan: They were banned in schools.
Dan: They were a bit of a gateway into
Dan: horror thing.
Dan: They were a piss take
Dan: off the garb
Dan: the um cabbage
Dan: patch kids, all that kind of stuff.
Dan: So
Dan: this
Dan: time
Dan: Gav
Dan: is bringing something to the table.
Dan: So
Dan: let's go
Dan: let's go into pop fiction.
Dan: I don't know if we're gonna sing it or if we're gonna go into it or
Gav: just
Gav: Pop
Gav: pop
Gav: fiction
Gav: fiction
Gav: pop
Gav: pop
Gav: fiction
Gav: pop
Gav: fiction
Gav: pop
Dan: fiction
Gav: it's pop
Gav: fiction
Gav: Hello
Gav: everybody, welcome back again to another little segment, our latest news segment
Gav: for Dan
Gav: and I.
Gav: Um
Gav: is
Gav: our little cult corner.
Gav: We talk about culty things.
Gav: And
Gav: culty thing I'm speaking of today
Gav: is something which I loved.
Gav: as a kid and I'm sure everyone else did and it's really weird it just
Gav: happened
Gav: and there's this massive boom in
Gav: UK.
Gav: I don't know about the world
Gav: or I think possibly in America as well and possibly Canada
Gav: Ninjas.
Gav: Fucking ninjas.
Dan: They were everywhere in the eighties, weren't they?
Gav: Just everywhere.
Gav: There's just ninjas everywhere.
Gav: People had
Gav: posters of ninjas
Gav: everywhere.
Gav: My friend
Gav: came back from America with actual proper phone
Gav: stars and we lifted up our wooden desks at break time and would just throw phone
Gav: stars at them, which
Gav: was extremely dangerous
Gav: and we were like
Gav: eight or nine and it's
Gav: extremely dangerous.
Gav: But ninjas
Gav: are great
Gav: everywhere.
Gav: You could buy n
Gav: you could
Gav: buy
Gav: I remember in Portsmouth there's this big like warehouse shop.
Gav: You go down there they'd sell
Gav: like loads of
Gav: uh
Gav: big sacks of rice.
Gav: Stuff like that's this big sort of warehouse, but
Gav: also
Gav: this one area
Gav: just had all these
Gav: ninja
Gav: posters
Gav: Like
Gav: throwing
Gav: stars, fucking numchucks, all the w
Gav: really illegal looking
Gav: gnarly stuff, but you
Gav: could just buy it all.
Gav: And there's just ninja
Gav: stuff everywhere.
Gav: It's like this place
Gav: is amazing
Gav: Proper weapons.
Dan: Yeah.
Dan: I mean, I think
Dan: this is probably an offshoot of the kung fu
Dan: phenomena from the seventies.
Dan: Because then Chuck Norris started having like ninjas in some of his films.
Dan: There was a couple of James Bond movies that had ninjas in them as well, and they just started
Dan: Slowly bleeding into the mainstream, didn't they?
Dan: Because
Dan: kids at school had G.
Dan: I.
Dan: Joe
Dan: figures and and the best ones were always the ninjas
Gav: Yeah, well the
Gav: ninjas
Gav: were always like the cool thing.
Gav: It's all
Gav: like
Gav: secretive, it's d
Gav: black clothing.
Gav: It's like
Gav: you don't know what's going on.
Gav: But yeah, James Bond movies always jumped in with what was popular at the time
Gav: That's why the uh uh
Gav: Timothy
Gav: Darwin ones were more action uh
Gav: based because of the Schwarzenegger
Gav: type movies at the time.
Gav: So yeah, they would have had ninjas
Gav: in it
Gav: because
Gav: ninjas
Gav: were cool at the time
Gav: And it comes down to things like
Gav: when it comes down to it, it's things like Canon, cinemas
Gav: that, and V
Gav: people
Gav: having
Gav: again
Gav: people having VHS players in their houses, why the slasher boom are so big as well then because the films were being produced because people
Gav: There was money to burn
Gav: and lots of cocaine.
Gav: Um
Gav: so there was loads of ninja
Gav: stuck in
Gav: and there's even video games.
Gav: I was a such a big fan of Shinobi
Gav: I fucking love Shinobi.
Dan: Yes, yes.
Gav: And then there's
Gav: well.
Dan: When I rebuilt
Dan: I don't have it anymore, but I bought
Dan: rebought my s
Dan: a
Dan: Sega
Dan: Master System
Dan: many years ago
Dan: and I had
Dan: there was about four hundred games released in the UK.
Dan: I had about two hundred I rebuilt them all on eBay and I was trying I was
Dan: Aiming to complete the collection, the UK collection, I never did.
Dan: But one of the things I did was buy every game that had ninjas and kung
Dan: fu
Dan: in it.
Gav: Yeah
Dan: Um uh
Dan: because there were so many of them.
Dan: There was all the shinobi games, like you said, there was Shadow Dancer, there was um
Dan: there was a m a game just called The Ninja
Dan: that I had.
Dan: Um
Gav: Ninja Gaiden, the last ninja, the
Gav: stuff
Dan: I mean you're right, they were really
Dan: they were really everywhere really.
Dan: They
Dan: they were in movies, obviously,
Dan: cheap Canon and Chuck Norris movies, they were in James Bond movies.
Dan: There was
Dan: elements of it in Enter the Dragon when Bruce goes out in his costume, you know, late late at night.
Gav: I feel like seventy-three
Dan: Somewhere in
Dan: there, yeah.
Gav: Uh I think that was that first instance of cause obviously Enter
Gav: Dragon was bringing uh
Gav: to an American audience and the Western audience
Gav: the the
Gav: the
Gav: something they'd not really seen as much, especially
Gav: pretty
Gav: bringing it to the mainstream that is, with
Gav: Enter
Gav: Dragon and Warner Warner Brothers
Gav: behind it, backing it properly.
Gav: Um, I think that
Gav: sort of brought ninjas
Gav: for the first time, bringing it in.
Gav: And then I say
Gav: like
Gav: Canon
Gav: kind
Gav: of cinema.
Gav: And then obviously once upon a time
Gav: we had Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Gav: But in England, being England and the way they are with
Gav: censorship thinking that all of a sudden we're gonna hurt each other because of a name, they
Gav: changed it to Hero Turtles, which is
Gav: fucking ridiculous.
Dan: Yeah, so they
Dan: I mean just a quick one because that's sort of my wheelhouse, they
Dan: also
Dan: deleted any element of Michelangelo's nunchucks in the cartoon and the the movie when the movie came out.
Dan: When the movie came out in nineteen ninety, it was still called Teeny's Mutant Ninja Turtles 'cause they couldn't change the name of the movie, but
Dan: the live action movie, but
Dan: In the UK we still had a an edited version of the real film, which I've since now got on DVD, etcetera, where anytime Michelangelo uses nunchucks, they were deleted.
Dan: Just like Enter the Dragon didn't have nunchucks in it in the UK initially.
Gav: I own them now.
Dan: I mean
Dan: there was a point I've got
Dan: over there actually.
Dan: There was a point where
Dan: um
Dan: so I think
Dan: I think it started with adults, because
Dan: it was adult films and kung fu
Dan: movies, but those naturally then were picked up by younger sort of
Dan: teens
Dan: And it worked its way down through the masses because then as I've said earlier, you had G.
Dan: I.
Dan: Joe
Dan: had quite a lot of ninja
Dan: toys in it.
Dan: There was ninja toys coming out of my ears.
Dan: I had
Dan: There was a He-Man figure called Ninjaw, who was a
Dan: He-Man figure, and he was a ninja in He-man.
Dan: Like what what the hell's going on?
Dan: There was my mum I remember being in the paper shop when my mum said, Oh look
Dan: and there was a plastic set of like
Dan: there was a mask you put on
Dan: And it also came with like three plastic ninja stars and a plastic sword and it was just
Dan: ninja
Dan: outfit.
Dan: So I
Dan: my mum bought me that and I was like, Yes, I'm a ninja, this is great.
Dan: So it really started off with the canon stuff and bled
Dan: all the way down through the
Dan: The culture didn't it?
Gav: And I'm currently trying to make ninja
Gav: with uh Elijah and I bought him a ninja costume.
Gav: We've been filming bits and bobs to make a little ninja
Gav: video
Gav: just
Gav: full
Gav: off.
Gav: Do you remember the uh uh
Gav: one thing which was really uh some
Gav: I just look at this here
Gav: I was like
Gav: fucking hell
Gav: I remember that
Gav: the martial arts magazines
Gav: did you ever buy them
Gav: Everyone bought them and it's so weird, you just buy them.
Gav: I wouldn't re even
Gav: read them, but then the back covers would s uh
Gav: in
Gav: there'd sell stuff inside.
Gav: You could buy ninja stuff, you could send away for
Gav: So weird I'd buy ninja
Gav: magazines.
Gav: I don't
Gav: why do I what do I
Gav: uh
Gav: sorry
Gav: martial arts magazine, why am I buying this?
Gav: But it was such a craze, wasn't it?
Gav: I did karate
Gav: myself
Dan: I used to get inside kung fu.
Dan: Um
Dan: I mean I was already into martial arts because of obviously Jackie Chan, but Bruce Lee.
Dan: And I and I
Dan: so I and I did do kung
Dan: fu
Dan: I've done several martial arts over the years
Dan: So it's always been a fascination of mine
Dan: coming through
Dan: martial arts movies, but there was a something about the ninjas
Dan: that was
Dan: so mystical
Dan: and so
Dan: There was just so many like
Dan: made up things that we all believed
Dan: they could disappear in a cloud of smoke.
Dan: They were a master of all weapons.
Dan: They could climb walls with these little claws on their hands.
Dan: They would hide under the d
Dan: the sand in the desert and pop
Dan: out.
Dan: They were m
Dan: they were a bit magical.
Dan: They could
Dan: blend in, they could disguise themselves.
Gav: Do you re
Gav: remember these then?
Gav: The books which were kind of uh
Gav: a lot thicker, a bit more square, and the front covers would be like uh
Gav: kind of a photograph of just someone in a ninja costume.
Gav: costume
Gav: and it would be a bit cheap and they were ninja um uh
Gav: training books.
Dan: Yes, I do remember those.
Dan: I've seen them in secondhand shops.
Gav: It's so
Gav: like what the fuck?
Gav: Someone that is out there is like, oh fucking hell.
Gav: Oi
Gav: Barry, j
Gav: put on this one, put on this and just pull some poses and can take some photos of you
Gav: And make
Gav: up some shit.
Dan: You know, and that's something actually just going back to movies, cheap to make
Dan: because you can easily disguise
Dan: anybody as an inja by putting a mask on them.
Dan: So you can have me
Dan: as the main character
Dan: And then as soon as it's time to put on my ninja clothes, just get someone in who's absolutely kick-ass
Dan: at martial arts and it's me with a mask on.
Gav: That's a really good idea.
Gav: But uh
Gav: what I was thinking of Elijah's costume, I bought a really
Gav: long
Gav: one for him he has to tuck it up quite so long.
Gav: I was like
Gav: I thought
Gav: I know what it's gonna be like.
Gav: It's gonna take me for ages to make this.
Gav: It's gonna
Gav: also
Gav: grow bigger.
Gav: So there'd be shots of him always saying bigger then it'd be smaller and I thought that'd be quite funny
Gav: actually
Gav: Um
Dan: it really did hit all areas, didn't it?
Dan: Um
Gav: Yeah, I had a poster in my wall and there's always a classic posters where you'd have like an
Gav: a
Gav: close up a ninja's face with his sword next to him
Gav: and his hand on a pose and a little bit of writing.
Gav: Which probably said like
Gav: you're a dickhead
Gav: in Chinese.
Dan: Japanese.
Gav: Japanese, yeah.
Gav: And that was it.
Gav: Those sort of things.
Gav: Everyone had them as well.
Dan: It was
Dan: It was even in the charts, you know.
Dan: We had obviously
Dan: we had the
Dan: Turtle Power song, but we also had the Ninja Rap by Vanilla Ice.
Dan: That was in the charts
Dan: and
Dan: I think
Dan: I feel like the peak of it was with the Ninja Turtles in the late eighties, going into the early nineties.
Dan: That was the peak of like
Dan: ninja
Dan: craze
Dan: It was definitely throughout the whole eighties.
Dan: You know, every
Dan: it felt like every film had ninjas in it at some point.
Dan: Even horror films
Dan: Famously, Ricky Morgan will know, um, Ninja Three The Domination, which is like
Dan: an exorcist movie
Dan: but with ninjas
Dan: in it.
Dan: And then you had like
Dan: we used to rent out movies like there was one called Ninja Terminator.
Gav: Well
Dan: and Ninja
Dan: Ninja Jaguar.
Gav: Well looking at it, the first sort of one really
Gav: was nineteen eighty one and that was Enter the Ninja.
Dan: Yeah
Dan: It's show
Dan: um
Dan: show
Dan: oh
Dan: Kazuki?
Gav: It was cut
Gav: quite a lot, but
Dan: Sho Kazuki I think was the main guy in that one.
Gav: Uh Frank Franco
Gav: Nero, um
Gav: the uh
Gav: uh sp
Gav: uh Italian actor, I think it was in it, plays
Gav: Cole, a Western martial artist
Gav: who becomes involved with a ninja
Gav: conflict.
Gav: But the really important name is Shokyoski.
Dan: Shokazuki.
Dan: Shokazugi, yeah.
Gav: Um
Gav: uh
Gav: eighty-free
Gav: had
Gav: revenge of a ninja
Gav: And
Gav: this is it this is again
Gav: going back to me now doing this
Gav: video
Gav: shop YouTube
Gav: channel.
Gav: I
Gav: going
Gav: into the video
Gav: shop you would actually look up and see lots
Gav: loads of different ninja
Gav: in your
Gav: plot
Gav: Fuck is this?
Gav: I don't even know what this is.
Gav: And it's like it's otherworldly
Gav: because you didn't have the internet.
Gav: You only knew your little town.
Gav: But it's like
Gav: what
Gav: what is this?
Gav: Ninja.
Gav: I used to like the old
Gav: Spider-Man
Gav: movies
Gav: Where it is obviously him crawling along on the ground, but they turned the camera sideways
Gav: and really dodgy costumes.
Gav: But that had like ninja stuff in it and things
Dan: I've got it on tape
Dan: actually just behind me.
Dan: Um
Dan: yeah, there was
Dan: they made like three Spider-Man movies in the 70s and one of them was called Spider-Man vs.
Dan: the
Dan: Dragon
Dan: clan and it was yeah, Spider-Man basically fighting loads of ninjas
Dan: and that was so cool for me.
Dan: But
Dan: then you know
Gav: uh and then you got a sort of more cemented we're going more into white people doing it with American Ninja
Dan: Yeah, American Ninja 1, 2 and 3.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: So that really sort of s
Gav: puts it in
Gav: going
Gav: like, yeah, well
Gav: that's where b
Gav: executive producers are like, right, we can start making m
Gav: money now.
Gav: Come on, let's put the white person in there
Gav: Um
Gav: but yeah video
Gav: shops
Gav: had loads of ninja
Gav: movies, those are stuff going on.
Gav: And obviously Chuck Chuck Norris, you know
Dan: And it's still happening now because one of Lego
Dan: 's biggest exports right now is Ninjago.
Dan: They've got
Dan: movies of uh
Dan: toys.
Gav: Lego
Gav: does it, kind of makes it uh
Gav: seem a lot more
Gav: Child friendly.
Gav: And then then you go you
Gav: can have ninjas
Gav: in kids' movies and things.
Gav: You've got like uh
Gav: Kung Free Panda.
Dan: Yeah, Kung Free Panda.
Gav: Has ninjas in it.
Dan: And my son, he absolutely loves anything ninja.
Dan: He does not know
Dan: kung fu, karate, or any of that.
Dan: He doesn't know what those things are.
Dan: But anyone who does a kick or a punch or has a sword
Dan: He just says, oh, they're being a ninja.
Dan: But isn't to him any martial arts is ninja.
Gav: One thing about this
Gav: w
Gav: the ninja
Gav: which
Gav: is
Gav: best
Gav: is the word ninja, if you look at the word ninja, it's a cool fucking word of five letters.
Gav: It's just cool.
Dan: Yeah, it is.
Gav: Is
Gav: it ninja?
Gav: So
Gav: fuck that's cool.
Dan: It is.
Gav: It just
Gav: is.
Dan: I wonder what it translates to.
Dan: Um
Dan: ninja
Dan: meanie.
Gav: But yeah, uh I used to have ninja
Gav: toys as a kid as well, so
Gav: loads of
Gav: plastic shit.
Dan: It means
Dan: so ninja is
Dan: is pronounced
Dan: or shinobi
Dan: both mean the same
Dan: which is
Dan: to hide.
Dan: So it's it's all about hiding and uh deception.
Dan: And
Gav: stealthful, isn't it?
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Yeah,
Dan: stealth.
Dan: Because I had that game on the PlayStation
Dan: 1 called Tenchu
Dan: If you ever played that way, you were a ninja.
Dan: Oh my god, it was so good.
Dan: You'd have to like the aim of the game, it was a bit like um
Dan: I never played
Dan: I never played it but um
Dan: Metal Gear is solid, I know you had to sneak around to that.
Gav: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dan: Yeah, so with this one you were a ninja
Dan: And you couldn't make any sounds, you had to
Dan: and if you made a sound the guy would look round and you had to like, well, do I slit his throat or do I
Gav: just
Dan: you know
Dan: um
Dan: there's even a scene
Dan: a bit in that game where you have to go under the water and breathe through uh a straw
Dan: And
Dan: like
Dan: no one can detect you?
Dan: You've just reminded me of that game from
Dan: PlayStation 1 actually.
Dan: And
Dan: um
Dan: shops were churning out Ninja Toys because I remember you know you could always buy like those
Dan: cheap knockoff action figures.
Dan: That weren't really E
Dan: man, they weren't really a transformer.
Gav: And they
Gav: broke really quickly.
Gav: And you'd be like, What why bother spending money on this?
Gav: Just save up and get something that's gonna not break straight away.
Gav: But
Gav: no
Dan: Uh
Dan: well I remember my mum bought me one of a ninja and it didn't have any it didn't move, it was just like a statue basically of a ninja
Dan: But I used to
Dan: use that as a toy, you know, with all my
Dan: other toys, even
Dan: though I couldn't pose it or do anything with its arms and legs.
Dan: It was a ninja, it's fucking cool.
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: Ninja.
Dan: Ninja.
Dan: Rap.
Gav: Ninja.
Gav: But that is that is today's cult corner.
Gav: Um
Gav: that's what I think I'd come up with a bit of
Gav: bit of ninjas
Gav: because we all like ninjas.
Gav: I fucking used to love ninjas
Dan: Well I think you've trumped me though because mine was definitely
Dan: my garbage peel kids sort of came and went and they're still around now.
Dan: They still make
Dan: garbage
Dan: peel kids, but ninjas
Dan: really
Dan: got
Dan: under
Dan: everyone's skin to the point that they're just part of pop culture now, aren't they?
Gav: Yeah.
Dan: You know.
Dan: People disappear in clouds of smoke all the time in movies
Dan: You know, it's just it is what it is really.
Dan: Ninjas.
Gav: Ninjas
Gav: is just fucking cool.
Dan: Marvel needs a good ninja
Dan: character.
Dan: They've got a good couple of martial arts people, but they need a good ninja character.
Gav: They could do that, couldn't they?
Dan: Yeah, they
Dan: need a good ninja.
Dan: That would represent the Japanese
Dan: um
Dan: market as well.
Gav: They need
Gav: us coming there
Gav: and just
Gav: make
Gav: them a ninja
Gav: ninja
Gav: movie.
Dan: Oh, I'd love to make a ninja movie.
Dan: We
Dan: all used to play ninjas
Dan: at school.
Dan: You know, was that
Dan: I tell you what
Dan: something
Dan: I'm just thinking about things that were big in the 80s.
Dan: Was there a ninja wrestler in WWF?
Gav: I
Gav: think so.
Dan: There must have been.
Dan: Someone must have
Dan: there
Dan: was
Dan: Ricky the
Dan: Ricky the Dragon steamboat.
Dan: He was like a martial arts guy.
Dan: Hang on.
Dan: Ninja
Dan: WF.
Dan: I'm just doing my research now.
Gav: I don't think there was.
Dan: Uh
Dan: there
Dan: was one masked
Dan: Okay.
Dan: There was one called Super Ninja
Dan: in the WWF.
Dan: That was his name.
Dan: Super Ninja.
Dan: Um
Gav: Su
Gav: I'm just
Gav: Ninja's of course
Gav: his bombers Super Ninja.
Dan: Um
Dan: he
Dan: only appeared a couple of times in 1988.
Dan: And there was a female wrestler called
Dan: she was called The Black Ninja.
Dan: And
Dan: she
Dan: only
Dan: appeared a couple of times in the late nineties.
Dan: So there was a couple of ninjas in WWF, but
Dan: not much else.
Gav: Alright, well, thank you everybody for today.
Gav: That was uh uh
Gav: Ninjas.
Dan: I'm just gonna disappear now
Dan: in a cloud of smoke.
Dan: Phew
Gav: And we're back.
Dan: We're back again to say goodbye.
Gav: Goodbye.
Gav: Um
Gav: we're gonna say some stuff.
Gav: Thanks for coming on and listening to us as normal.
Gav: Um just well
Gav: remembered it a moment ago off
Gav: um
Gav: next year randomly there's a new Blair
Gav: Witch project movie
Gav: out.
Gav: Um
Gav: I think with
Gav: the two main guys from the Blair
Gav: Rich
Gav: original movie are
Gav: in it.
Gav: They must have sorted out their
Gav: financial.
Gav: Yes.
Gav: Uh they
Gav: I think they
Gav: must have sorted out the financial situation as a whole.
Gav: thing.
Gav: Um
Gav: but the lady um
Gav: is not in it.
Gav: Um
Gav: I think she grows weed nowadays.
Dan: Heather.
Gav: Um uh
Gav: but just
Gav: randomly I just
Gav: thought I mentioned I didn't know people knew that.
Gav: Um I think there's actually a little sneaky trade on you.
Gav: that already
Gav: for
Dan: interesting
Dan: well
Dan: talking of such things
Dan: I also forgot to mention in our intro
Dan: I'll mention it now
Dan: there is a teaser
Dan: online
Dan: for Gremlins 3 if you haven't already seen it
Dan: and
Dan: And everybody's really worried about it because we live in a world of AI and CGI, but apparently
Dan: CGI is completely banned from this film and it would
Dan: all be puppets.
Gav: Yeah, I was gonna say you've got old school filmmakers making this.
Gav: Do you know what I mean?
Dan: Is it done?
Dan: Okay.
Gav: I'm not sure who
Gav: actually
Gav: directed it, but I do know you've got like
Gav: Spielbergs who've
Gav: involved in the production of it.
Gav: And
Gav: um
Gav: uh
Gav: Udi
Gav: Baduji, uh
Gav: who made
Gav: Christopher Columbus.
Gav: I think he may be
Gav: directing it.
Dan: Well, look, I'm
Dan: uh
Dan: I am a bit worried
Dan: because it's been a long time since the first two Gremlins
Dan: movies.
Dan: But
Dan: um
Dan: the first one especially is
Dan: to see what the Gremlins
Gav: are up to again though, wouldn't it?
Gav: I mean
Dan: I mean they are great.
Dan: We all have a gremlin.
Gav: Exactly.
Gav: Gremlin
Gav: can go back.
Dan: I'll tell you why they've done it, I'll tell you what
Dan: one of the reasons
Dan: this is what worries me, is
Dan: merchandising.
Dan: there's gonna be gizmos
Dan: everywhere
Dan: because he's cute he looks a bit like Grogu
Dan: they're gonna be selling that because
Dan: he was fucking everywhere
Dan: in the in the 80s
Dan: him and ET
Dan: were
Dan: everywhere in the 80s
Dan: I that I
Dan: never even seen the gremlins and my dad
Dan: came home from a shop and he bought a three
Dan: a three
Dan: pack of um
Dan: gremlins figures for me.
Dan: He's like, oh I thought you
Dan: liked these and it was mo
Dan: Mogwai, Gizmo and the two big green ones.
Dan: I didn't know what they were
Dan: And then one day my uncle had it on Beatamax
Dan: and he lent us his Betamax player and he said
Dan: here you go, here's
Dan: Gremlin to me but obviously it terrified me.
Dan: I was about eight years old.
Dan: Yeah, it made me
Dan: sick
Gav: and I watched it.
Dan: They were everywhere, so I am a bit worried.
Dan: they're doing it for the merch
Dan: but
Dan: fingers crossed it'll be
Dan: it'll be cool.
Gav: I did pick up part two
Gav: on VHS last week.
Gav: I picked up
Gav: spent quite a lot of money on some not many VHS and got home to find out a few
Gav: quite a few of them were moldy.
Gav: So
Gav: So I actually picked up a spare video player yesterday and I've been forwards and rewinding the tapes and that and it's gonna be my mouldy video player.
Gav: And then it cleaned up a little bit.
Gav: It
Gav: cleaned up a bit.
Gav: So
Dan: Jaw's
Dan: you mm
Dan: Yeah, was there another movie you were going to mention?
Dan: Um, because we mentioned Gremlins
Dan: 3, Blair
Dan: Witch, I'm sure there was another one we just quickly mentioned off
Dan: air, but maybe not.
Dan: Maybe that was that.
Gav: I don't know.
Gav: No.
Dan: Alright.
Dan: Well, thank you everybody again, especially to our
Dan: and Holly uh for picking and selecting uh
Dan: watcher
Dan: in the woods.
Dan: It's great to watch that again.
Gav: Holly, yes.
Dan: We'll be back
Dan: for
Dan: episode 192, which will be
Dan: our
Dan: Halloween
Dan: special.
Dan: Yes, after after many months of not delivering anything to you guys, we are delivering two in the same month
Dan: So
Dan: episode 192, Gav, it's his pick.
Dan: Gav, what have you selected for us to review for?
Gav: It's a heavy hitter which we've never actually uh talked about before, but we're covering Hellraiser
Gav: The original Hellraiser.
Gav: We've not talked about it and it seems like an appropriate one for Halloween.
Gav: So that'd be
Gav: a little bit more than a little bit.
Gav: I'm hoping possibly to have a conversation with someone.
Gav: from
Gav: the movie as well.
Gav: But we will see.
Gav: It might not happen.
Gav: We will see.
Dan: But
Dan: every now and again we realise
Dan: we there's still quite a lot of heavy
Dan: interests we haven't covered.
Dan: Much like when we did Return of the Living Dead, things like that, it's unbelievable we haven't covered these movies.
Dan: So yeah, it's gonna be a really fun discussion
Dan: because
Dan: We make a lot of sticky Frank comments as it is anyway, and that movie is
Dan: sticky Frank himself, you know, so
Gav: fantastic film.
Dan: It's great
Dan: And
Dan: it's a bit saucy, sexy, gross.
Dan: I really
Gav: like
Gav: being the age I am now, and the way I look at life now and the clarity I have
Gav: and
Gav: uh maturity or whatever you want us to call it.
Gav: Um
Gav: and look at films now and see them
Gav: now
Gav: as opposed to when I first watched them
Gav: 'cause I watched that when I was a teenager.
Gav: You know
Gav: So it's cool to see that now and be
Gav: like look at it and go, oh, and last time I watched it I was like
Gav: this is such a good film.
Gav: It's well
Gav: so well crafted and put together.
Gav: Brilliant
Dan: Yeah, I mean if I remember rightly the first two and maybe even the first three are are all good.
Dan: The first one is obviously the best.
Dan: Um
Dan: I do think they take a
Dan: steep dive off a cliff when you get to four and onwards.
Dan: Uh
Gav: however I
Gav: I hear
Dan: the remake is quite good.
Dan: I heard the reboot or remake was perfect.
Dan: Yeah, I need to check it out.
Dan: So that will be our next episode.
Dan: It will be our Halloween special.
Dan: We'll really get into a deep dive of our thirty-one
Dan: days of horror
Dan: wherever
Dan: we're at at that point,
Dan: um we'll
Dan: we'll have a real celebration of Halloween and we'll talk about Hellraiser.
Dan: Um
Dan: after that
Dan: It's most likely going to be my pick.
Dan: Um, episode 193.
Dan: If everything goes to plan,
Dan: should be me
Dan: selecting
Dan: Jason Goes to Hell the Final Friday
Dan: Because we haven't covered a Jason movie this year.
Dan: We usually do cover one every summer and I wanted to squeeze one in before the year is out.
Dan: And I think after that will be our
Dan: I think after that will be our Christmas special.
Dan: But we will keep that under
Dan: Wraps, as they say, for now.
Dan: Because we haven't quite decided.
Gav: Christmas wraps.
Dan: Christmas raps.
Dan: Not run
Gav: DMC.
Dan: Right,
Dan: run
Dan: DMC babies.
Gav: Christmas in
Gav: Hollands.
Gav: That's some
Gav: Christmas wraps.
Dan: So that's what's coming up.
Dan: Thanks again to Holly.
Dan: Thanks again to everybody as I said in the intro
Dan: for sticking with us through a very strange and turbulent year.
Dan: with not a lot of output from us.
Dan: Gav
Dan: has been begging me like literally
Dan: like
Dan: Dan
Dan: let's record down
Dan: just let's record and I'm just like
Dan: I want to
Dan: but I can't do it.
Dan: But now I'm doing it and it's been brilliant.
Dan: And I've really enjoyed this.
Gav: Good.
Dan: Good to get back in the saddle.
Dan: So all that remains for us to do is our usual good
Gav: housekeeping and then we
Dan: then we can s
Dan: and
Gav: get out of here.
Gav: Indeed.
Dan: Okay.
Dan: Well there is one thing I need to
Dan: pull
Dan: up.
Dan: As they say, which I again I'm out of practice, so bear with me while I
Dan: pull
Dan: something up here.
Dan: Just talk amongst yourselves while I do this.
Gav: I've got nothing to talk about, so I I
Gav: talk to you, don't I?
Gav: So
Gav: but yes, thank you very much.
Gav: Thanks everybody for uh coming along and again to listen to
Gav: us and I do appreciate you
Gav: And we
Gav: not being around, um, it's lovely that you could kill
Gav: all
Gav: still
Gav: stay
Gav: subscribed to us.
Gav: And if you've made it as far.
Dan: Subscribed
Dan: unprescribed.
Gav: Prescribed to us, yes, pr
Gav: uh
Gav: doctor
Gav: the doctor has prescribed the podcast on Haunted Hill to you
Gav: twice daily, once in the morning, once in the evening, and we're uh
Gav: we're uh
Gav: suppository.
Dan: And you
Dan: could take it orally oranially.
Dan: Um
Dan: okay, so we are the podcast on Haunted Hill.
Dan: We have been, weirdly, for 13 years this very day.
Dan: We have always been and will always hopefully be a prior member of Legion Podcasts Network, which is the network which
Dan: our show and many other shows
Dan: publish
Dan: through.
Dan: We're also linked with Deadbolt
Dan: Media, which I'll get more into in a moment.
Dan: You can find out more about Legion Podcasts if you goto legionpodcasts.com
Dan: LegionPodcasts.com
Dan: That's where you can find all of our shows that we've ever done over the last 13 years
Dan: and all the other um shows that are on there and all of their episodes as well
Dan: You can email us directly at
Dan: our email addresses, the podcast on hauntedhill at
Dan: outlook.
Dan: com.
Dan: If you ever want to ask any questions or
Dan: become a
Dan: Patreon or do any of the other stuff
Dan: just tell me I'm shit
Dan: or say
Dan: it wasn't worth coming back or say we missed you
Dan: any of these things.
Dan: Um
Dan: we are really active mostly on
Dan: Facebook
Dan: if you go to Facebook and search for the podcast on Haunted Hill, you will find our Facebook page.
Dan: This is the probably the best month to do it, because
Dan: October, our Facebook page is blowing up
Dan: because all of our listeners and followers and supporters
Dan: do
Dan: that
Dan: 31 challenge where they try to watch 31 horror movies or more
Dan: or listen to music that's horror related
Dan: or play board games or
Gav: most active
Dan: video
Dan: games
Dan: Yeah, it's just a lot of fun um over the October period.
Dan: I really enjoy seeing what everybody's watching.
Dan: Um
Dan: Legion podcasts also have their own Facebook page as well, so again
Dan: go there
Dan: and
Dan: There's lots of good fun having on there from the other shows as well as us.
Dan: We post on there too.
Dan: Wherever you're listening to us now is where you can continue to listen to us.
Dan: We're on most podcast platforms.
Dan: Spotify, YouTube, uh
Dan: Podbean, PodKnife, Podcast Addict, etc.
Dan: etc.
Dan: And we are on Instagram, which we mainly use just to promote the show, with a link to each episode and a little collage
Dan: of what we've
Dan: discussed in that episode.
Dan: Our handle
Dan: there is the podcast on Haunted Hill Insta.
Dan: Or one word, the podcast on Haunted Hill Insta.
Dan: As I've said, we're part of the Devil
Dan: Media Umbrella.
Dan: Deadbolt
Dan: Films
Dan: is our
Dan: production company
Dan: Um
Dan: we have a website which is deadboltfilms.
Dan: com.
Dan: We have a YouTube
Dan: channel, so just search for Deadbolt Films
Dan: on YouTube.
Dan: Is
Dan: your um video
Dan: shop
Dan: part
Dan: of that?
Gav: No, it
Gav: 's not
Gav: it's not part of Deadborough Street.
Dan: Separate entity.
Gav: Absolutely separate.
Gav: Yeah Dan
Gav: uh Ben said why don't you put the videos up on Deadbot?
Gav: And I was like
Gav: but then it's not the U
Gav: it's not the video shop, it's Deadbot
Gav: so
Gav: I wanted to do it separately.
Dan: Yeah no that's fair enough.
Gav: Yeah, uh
Gav: you
Gav: know
Gav: if you find it because it's gonna have probably see
Gav: my picture of my face because there is another video
Gav: shop on YouTube
Gav: but it's like
Gav: uh
Gav: instructional videos for something
Dan: Oh
Dan: ,
Dan: straight
Dan: source thing.
Dan: Um
Gav: not what you're looking
Gav: this is not what you've come here for.
Dan: If you're wondering what DevOps Films does
Dan: Obviously
Dan: we make movies.
Dan: We we've made several feature and short movies, a couple of music videos along the way.
Dan: We
Dan: even dabble in comics.
Dan: Um
Dan: and
Dan: And on top of that, um
Dan: Gav
Dan: also has a show
Dan: um
Dan: which he doesn't really do anymore, but you keep saying it's gone away and it keeps popping its head back up, which is called
Gav: The High Strangers Podcast.
Gav: We've just had the hard
Gav: back
Gav: book of Eldritch
Gav: Lust, which is the first three uh uh
Gav: episodes of the
Gav: uh
Gav: the first three comics basically
Gav: compiled together as a book and it's very very well nicely put together.
Dan: It is
Dan: really, really well presented.
Dan: Nice hard
Dan: back
Dan: look at that
Dan: shiny.
Dan: Does it smell good
Dan: Does it smell good?
Gav: Yeah, it is pretty fresh and
Gav: something.
Dan: The fresh
Dan: the fresh ink is always fantastic.
Gav: Um uh
Gav: and um
Gav: thank you so much patrons for staying with us and
Gav: supporting us we
Gav: appreciate it immensely
Gav: honestly
Gav: really do
Gav: I keep saying Dan
Gav: so
Gav: we need to put more stuff out for the patrons
Gav: don't
Gav: worried for you guys but thank you for sticking with us I do appreciate it
Gav: Um
Gav: uh
Gav: Sarah and I are actually gonna be doing a Patreon episode soon for RAW, uh
Gav: the most dangerous movie ever made, and it is the most dangerous movie ever made, and a lot of people got hurt
Gav: um and it's about um
Gav: Tippee Hedrum
Gav: and uh
Gav: Melanie
Gav: Griffiths uh living with uh
Gav: lions and tigers
Gav: and
Dan: I've heard about this but
Dan: never seen it.
Gav: We watched it and it is just
Gav: it's anxiety for the whole thing.
Gav: The whole
Gav: time you're just like, oh my god, is that line about to rip
Gav: it you just don't know what's gonna happen, but it's
Gav: Anyway,
Gav: picked this up for a call
Gav: boot sale
Gav: the other day.
Gav: Just wanted to mention this very quickly.
Gav: I'll um
Gav: still pick up
Gav: brand new video tapes
Gav: because we
Gav: make
Gav: videotapes of the Deadbolt to
Gav: short films, blank video ones.
Gav: Um and look at these ones still sealed.
Gav: I don't know if I'm gonna open 'em because it's such a thing of beauty almost.
Gav: Because you're not
Gav: how many of these
Gav: can it see
Gav: nowadays?
Gav: But look
Gav: look at that though.
Gav: What is it though?
Dan: I used to get a two-pack or a three-pack in my stocking every year for Christmas.
Gav: I was trying to explain this to Elijah, but look at this one though.
Gav: How many minutes is that?
Dan: 240.
Gav: Imagine that on LP.
Gav: That's about nine movies on one tape.
Dan: Yeah.
Gav: That is I was thinking two
Gav: forty
Gav: as a kid if you got a two
Gav: forty
Gav: you'll be like
Gav: oh
Gav: my god that's amazing
Dan: Yep, you're definitely recordable.
Gav: So I don't
Dan: know.
Gav: It's actually
Gav: they've got curved edges and everything in it.
Gav: I don't know if I'm gonna open this
Gav: to we
Gav: I might just keep it
Gav: The
Gav: I said to the guy how much?
Gav: He went, three pounds
Gav: went, I gave it two
Gav: and
Gav: oh
Dan: Yeah, it looks too nice to open.
Dan: Well talking to patron
Dan: Finally, if you wish to support us in a monetary fashion
Dan: and you like what you hear, then you can become a patron supporter.
Dan: Just go to patron.
Dan: If you like what you see
Dan: and you like what you hear, um
Dan: just go to Patreon and search for the podcast on Haunted Hill.
Dan: If you can't find it, just message me either on Facebook Messenger or on the email address which I gave earlier, which is thepodcast on
Dan: haunted hill at outlook.
Dan: com.
Dan: If you become a patron
Dan: supporter,
Dan: for as little as a pound or a dollar a month, you will
Dan: have several benefits, one of which is a t-shirt sent out to you in the colour of your choice and the size of your choice
Dan: Wherever you live in the world, you'll also get your name read out at the end of every episode, and you'll get to be a
Dan: patron
Dan: which means
Dan: Every three episodes, one of our patrons gets to pick the film that we are reviewing.
Dan: Tell us if they want, tell us why they love it, why they want us to review it, what it means to them.
Dan: Um
Dan: so there's lots of benefits there and the other benefit being of course
Dan: is occasionally we put out bonus content exclusive only for our patron supporters which Gab and Sarah have been doing quite a lot uh over the last few months and I really appreciate that um
Dan: in my absence.
Dan: Um
Dan: and we often put our shows out a few days early as well, so
Dan: quite often we'll put a show out two or three days before it goes out to the rest of the world.
Dan: Just on our patrons only.
Gav: Uh
Gav: Sarah and I quite enjoyed doing it actually, um uh because we're both quite the same.
Gav: Uh
Gav: if you've heard our podcast, you know what we're like, our
Gav: sense of humor.
Gav: So we quite enjoy watching these wacko
Gav: movies of the eighties
Gav: and uh
Gav: talking about them.
Gav: It's fun.
Dan: Indeed.
Dan: So
Dan: thank you to our patrons who I will now all read out by
Dan: read out all by name.
Dan: So thank you ever so much to
Dan: Dante.
Dan: Don
Dan: Collier, Matthew Godley, Kevin S.
Dan: Fife, Rachel, R.
Dan: Damon Creedy
Dan: and of course Holly who goes by
Dan: Lex Boo.
Dan: Thank you, Holly, and thank you all of you
Dan: for sticking with us through this past year.
Gav: I promise
Dan: we will be putting out more
Dan: shows.
Dan: Yes, we really love you guys.
Dan: We love you all though.
Dan: Thank you all listeners and supporters for
Dan: everything
Dan: and putting up with us
Dan: and
Dan: joining
Dan: the fun
Dan: on the Facebook
Dan: page
Dan: over
Dan: the October period
Dan: and
Dan: spooky season is here so
Gav: it is
Dan: the next this next time
Dan: next time we talk we will be in our full skeleton jackalanton at
Dan: uh outfits
Dan: Eating pumpkin pie.
Gav: Spermin in spooky stuff.
Gav: Spooling in
Gav: ectos
Gav: ectoplasm.
Dan: Ectosperm, you were gonna say then.
Gav: Almost.
Dan: So
Dan: in that case it's time for us to say goodnight.
Dan: So it's a good night.
Dan: From an interdimensional being
Gav: not be a ghost.
Gav: Might be a pervert.
Dan: Stolen that's stolen Betty Davies' daughter away.
Gav: A pervert
Gav: ghost in the woods watching you.
Gav: That's a good night from that person
Dan: And it's a good night from
Dan: Ninjas.
Dan: Uh
Dan: hiding under your bed.
Gav: You won't.
Gav: You can look under, you won't see it.
Dan: You will not see him.
Dan: All you'll feel is the nunchuck
Dan: hit you in the nose or the sword sliced your throat.
Dan: Oh
Gav: yeah.
Gav: Don't bend over.
Gav: You don't wanna
Gav: num
Gav: chuck
Gav: Or
Dan: Ninja Stars.
Dan: Ninja Stars.
Dan: There's ninjas in the new Spider-Man movie, by the way.
Gav: There we go.
Dan: Spider-Man brand new day.
Dan: He fights 20 ninjas
Dan: in a prison.
Dan: And
Dan: I
Dan: was just like, this is fucking cool.
Gav: I've not seen it yet.
Gav: I have to watch it.
Gav: Um
Gav: right, well, thank you very much people and we are out here and it's a good night for Dan, it's a good night for me, it's a good night from everybody else in the world.
Dan: And watch out for those ninjas in the woods.
Gav: Ninjas.
Gav: Good night.
Gav: Ninja.
Gav: Thank you for listening to the podcast on Haunted Hill.
Gav: We will be back again real
Gav: soon.
Gav: No
Gav: two