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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Unknown
All righty, baby. Yeah. Just 0 to 100 real quick. All righty. We are back. Welcome, everybody. This is episode 24 of the unfunded podcast. We are over the moon to have you all with us on this Friday afternoon. It's Tuesday right now for us recording, but this will be released on Friday.
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Unknown
So happy Friday. You made it through the week. Enjoy your weekend. I am co-host of the unfunded podcast professional triathlete Lachlan Jones. He was my good friend. Light and will also co-host of the unfunded podcast. Yeah, yeah. No. Professional. It's like, not this great enough for that. I really weaned that one. Yeah, that was good. That was good.
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Unknown
Thanks. Thanks. I'll do my best. Do my best. Getting better, getting better. Yeah. We try, we try. How are you feeling? I'm going to start this episode. I'm feeling good. Well, glad the exams are over. That's been daddy's names on last week. Yeah, last week, this week. So I'm done for a little while, so I'm happy.
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Unknown
Bit of stress. Relieved. So I can just chill for a couple days and then get back into it. Yeah. Focus on how's you enjoy going? Everyone's. Everyone's been asking. Yeah, everyone's been asking. Should I just let everyone off? Let everyone know what it is? Yeah. I don't even know what it is. Oh, don't. You haven't told me.
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Unknown
Oh, here we go. It's a, stress reaction in my femur. Oh, in femur. Yeah. So how did I not know that? Yeah. No, thanks for asking. Oh, my God, I thought was your hip. Well, it was high in my femur. Yeah. Oh, dude, I'm so sorry. Yeah. So that's all right. Anyway, 6 to 8 weeks off running, but today I can do a 15 minute ride to test it out.
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Unknown
No crutches, no crutches, which is good. It was an arm in the femoral neck. Okay. Which is a good. That's better. Yep. 100%. So you don't get much blood flow in the femoral neck. So the femoral shaft is. It's not ideal, obviously, but it's better than what it could have been. Change of been shot to death. Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah, literally. So that was a good one. Thanks, mate. But, yeah, six weeks off running at least. And then we'll build back. But, no stress. You know, there is a stress. There is a. Yeah, there's stress about femur. That's what there is plenty of stress in your favor. Oh, mate. No good, no good at all if you don't laugh, you cry.
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Unknown
So that's. I think it's fun to cry. I cry, so don't do it in front of people. Yeah. Still behind closed doors? Yeah. Right now at least we can still swim. We can still do a bit of gym and start to ride this week if it's going well. Yeah. Okay. So offseasons come early for you. Yeah. Well it's kind of continued on long then.
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Unknown
Fair enough. What it should have. But that's alright. That's anyway. That's annoying. Yeah. Lucky yourself. You know traveling. Well just tough. It's just. I'm knackered. Like yesterday. I messed up yesterday's ride and I accidentally went like a, you know, when you're playing a loop and you think it's going to be, you know, x, y, z long. Yeah, yeah I got half I around.
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Unknown
I thought I'm going to be a whole hour over here. I usually ride around like 3 to 3 and a half. And I got out like the back Murwillumbah. And I got to like, you know, two and a half. I thought, this is going to be a four hour ride. Well, yeah. If you're at the at the back of my boombox, it's going to be about four hours.
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Unknown
I didn't realize until I got there and I thought, this is gonna be a long day. So I had to do for our ride yesterday, an hour in the gym, 90 minute swim, and then a 50 minute run just to top it all off. So I just woke up this morning, so I just fucked. Yeah. Post swim your.
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Unknown
You're very tired for recording this food toilet boy, you lock you very tight boy. But lucky happy boy now. Oh that's good. He got a little bit of food in him. Like I said, as soon as you press record on the podcast, it's like a new art comes to life. Yeah I know, yeah, yeah. We sat here before just in silence.
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Unknown
Yeah. For about 15 minutes. The unfunded character comes out. Yeah. And then like, all right. But yeah, just trying. And lots. So unfortunately, I'm kicking the feed off. Fortunately no injury. Yeah, well that's good. Touchwood. Now I make my own luck. Don't need touch wood. Yeah. And this is firewood. Wood food. Yeah. Loads been gone on in the sporting world.
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Unknown
Yeah. This way. Let's just dive straight into it. I don't obviously, different parts of the world will have different things. You've got different things going on. But for us, AFL and NRL it's kicking off finals. Three finals. Footy is back. I mean sucks for you because you don't have a team to watch. Yeah the Tigers I mean it's better than the wooden spoon.
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Unknown
They've given it to Newcastle Knights this year. Yeah I Royals team. Yeah they're good. But yeah Tigers in 13. So I mean, to be honest, I haven't really watched much of the rugby league this year at all. When you team's doing shit. Yeah. What's the point? Oh actually though, I have been invested in the local footy as in local footy comps, weed as of late.
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Unknown
That's so a guy that I work with. He won hospital Cup with Bond Uni the other day. Hospital Cup. Yeah. It's like the. That's rugby union. Yeah. Rugby union essentially second tier like professional rugby union. And then the local team at home. Pourquoi parts. They won the premiership. This is what my joy is. And then I can't get around this.
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Unknown
The mighty the mighty Newcastle Uni seahorse is third grade and second grade are in the grand final this week. No we're not, we're not talking about third grade. Yeah I know, but but that is what has got me through footy this year. Oh good on you. Yeah I'm happy for you. I mean because the Tigers definitely want to get you through and you know well on some kind of winner because we were excited at the start of the year like we both are now.
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Unknown
You know we both when we did our first couple episodes we said, you know, you go for the Tigers, I go for the crows. Crows, which is dominated. Since I said that and Tigers did well. They did well for the first six months, six months. And then they'd fell off a cliff pretty quick. But the crows just kept rocking.
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Unknown
And for anybody that cares about AFL crows were dominant. We did well. We were very excited. Did you win last weekend? No, no we didn't. Oh, so this is this is where a bit of controversy. Well, there's lots of controversy and a lot of the games actually that happened. But there was a big big upset. Like I think the crows, the crows crowd, the Adelaide Crows, they definitely behaved in a way that, you know, probably wasn't very respectful to the other team.
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Unknown
There was a lot of booing and there was a lot. Yeah there was yeah. Some background stories to it when we want go into too much trouble. But we won't go too in-depth. But you can find that on the show. Three find that out some. We're not an AFL channel, but what? There was a comment that was thrown out by another podcast, late AFL podcast, and they basically said, like crows supporters, some of the most naive supporters you'll ever meet, like they don't realize final finals footy is a different ball game.
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Unknown
You would you base. Yeah, it's a different based. So because the Adelaide Crows won that they were top of the ladder. Essentially they won the home and away. So they got home final home finals. Going into the finals I go to home final anyway. They basically said that the most naive people, they essentially thought just because they were on top of the ladder, they're straight through the grand final.
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Unknown
Yeah, like they're going to be in the grand final for sure. No one and I one of those, I have booked my flights and I have booked my accommodation in Melbourne for the grand final weekend, and I did that before the game on the weekend, so we booked that probably over a week ago, like two weeks ago. Then the girlfriend we like.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah we're, we're in crosier in. So I booked all my stuff. We got thumped off. We got thumped first round. Luckily we're not eliminated. Yeah I get eliminated. So we go into the second qualifying round now. But what happens if they lose. They go oh we're going there. Then we're going. So I'm just going to Melbourne just for shits and gigs then.
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Unknown
Oh yeah. Have you actually bought a ticket. No, we haven't bought a ticket to the actual game. You combo. I'm yet okay, so we're hoping that my girlfriend's name is still she at her team actually beat us last week, so that was a little bit bittersweet. That was a happy and sad side, but, yeah, hopefully we're watching one of our two teams.
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Unknown
Okay, well, that's all right. But yeah, but you'll be devastated if you're going down there and the crows. That cannot be crows and Collingwood. It's still can be crows and click okay. That would be huge. That will be huge. But we have to play Geelong and Geelong. Very good right now okay. So fingers crossed it can still happen.
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Unknown
It's just going to be tough. It can be very tough. I'd love it if you had to sit down there. I'll have to. Where you go. Friends team win the grand final and you're just like now, you know? You know what? It'll be alright if it's no knock on. Actually say that's it's the crows, isn't it? Oh, pause, pause.
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Unknown
That's as much as I know. Well AFL. Yeah. You go for the crows to me. Birds, water birds. When we're playing the Hawks. This way. The swans. This one's a shit. But we've lined the Hawks this week. It's too many birds. Not all of the birds. Anyway, that's the AFL situation is actually one, so that's usually the best team in the Gold Coast.
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Unknown
One we need to final. Yeah, that is true though. That was historic. Yeah. That was that was a storybook ending to a career of one of the players. Yeah. One of the players that announced his retirement could have been his last game. Kicks the winning point to get them over the line like in the final 30s to, yeah.
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Unknown
The Gold Coast is electric at the moment. Yeah. Go rounds could be happy. Missed it. There's a lot of Gold Coast fans flags getting around. I've never seen love it. I've never seen that many Gold Coast sides. All of a sudden everyone's a fan. Oh yeah. Exactly right. I don't follow AFL, but my I'm a Gold Coast Suns fan.
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Unknown
The membership for 2026 just skyrocketed to skyrocketed. People didn't even follow AFL members of Gold Coast. Yeah, maybe a team in the Gold Coast can actually make it somewhere, because there's always been. There's always been that, you know, I guess the stereotype around the Gold Coast, and it's a bit of a party culture. It's a bit of an influence.
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Unknown
So you come to the Gold Coast and you get lost. Yeah. Teams. Teams get lost. Teams haven't been success. No, not the most successful team we've had. The Titans have been forever. They've ever made a final. Yep. No. Or maybe probably a favorite elimination. Yeah. Suns finally after what did they say. Did I think it was 12 years?
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Unknown
I'm just guessing. I think it's 12 years of never making a final first one. Made it through the second round. So yeah huge. It's going to be big. Massive. Gold coast is steaming. It's almost yeah it's electric. Anyway, we'll bring the. Oh sorry. Oh I okay into more of our domain of sport and that is the triathlon world.
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Unknown
But we'll keep it in the influencer triathlon world. So like you saying. All right. Tell you 100 last weekend, Tommy Fury. We all know who he is. Yeah. Molly-mae's boyfriend. Yeah. Or ex-boyfriend now? Yeah. The boxer, brother of Tyson Fury. He did a Gypsy King. Yeah, the gypsy King, Tommy Fury. So hopefully he doesn't punch on with us, I think.
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Unknown
Yeah. I don't think he's going to say this, but he writes t 100 in, French Riviera. Anyway, he makes these massive poses like, yeah, ten days training. Like, who can finish in Iron Man like me. Anyway? He never finished it. It came out that he never finished the race. You've got some balls on you to be, like claiming an event like that.
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Unknown
Yeah. Claiming that sort of not victory. But yeah, that sort of achievement. Yeah. So then get found out that you cheated. Yeah. Exactly. Right. So he didn't finish half of the block. They said out of the attack bike he did 4848 K. Yeah. So a lot missed. He had a 30 K yeah. Deficit. And he still ran the 18 K.
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Unknown
He still swam but he took a long time to swim and the roads were closing. So they had to get the people off the bike. They let him finish. Okay cool. I'm happy for anyone to keep finishing, but you can't go on social media and go. You can do 100 K distance after ten days training. Well, obviously you ten days obviously didn't didn't work.
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Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. I think that that just kind of speaks to the, it's it's very much the, influencer mindset. Yeah. I guess it's the image of doing it, not actually doing it. Yeah. Actually, I, I feel as if it takes away from like, all the other age groups that were there doing it. Yeah. And they did it properly.
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Unknown
Yeah. And trained for it. Yeah. So yeah. Tell me if you're, you look like and that's the video of him running down the finish line like sprinting. He's a big unit. Huge. It's not until you see him because obviously he's in the boxing world. So he's around and surrounded by a lot of big units. And he doesn't look that big.
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Unknown
But you get him in Lycra and you get him around a bunch of triathletes. Huge. Fucking huge. He's massive. I mean, it's quite impressive in itself. If he just ran that 18 K. Yeah. Like that's a good achievement. Yeah because he's massive. Yeah it's a log that white ran good on him I mean not good on imitated but no it's funny.
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Unknown
It's funny I mean cool to say that we've got big names like that in the sport. Yeah, I think that is the good thing about it that it has become like. I mean, it's drawn attention to the T 100, and a lot of people probably had no idea what the T 100 was until saying, Tommy Fury run down that finish line.
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Unknown
The only thing is that how many people like, out of all the people that laid eyes on a story in the world, what do you reckon got more attention toward winning or Tommy Fury finishing Tommy Fury? Yeah, so that's what I mean. It's it's him. Finishing the race is bigger than hate. Award winning the race. Yeah, 100%. Which is just the day and age of.
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Unknown
Yeah, well, clearances and all that crap. Yeah. That crap. I mean here we are on the podcast like light is not a fan of influences. If, if you didn't know.
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Unknown
Sticking with the J 100. Yeah, this is big. Huge. We were sharing close back and forth all weekend over these, trying to figure out how to form an opinion on what happened. Hayden Wilde and Sam Long wearing illegal shoes in T 100 London and T 100 French Riviera. Yeah, not a good look. It definitely isn't a good look.
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Unknown
Not a good look and bit of backstory to these shoes. They had prototypes which were deemed legal by Athletics World Athletics. So all of our shoes now have to be deemed legal. The rise of the super shoe. It's just changed the way it goes. It's like having an illegal bike, UCI, UCI compliant, exactly the same stuff. So they had these new prototype shoes.
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Unknown
They can't use them anymore and they had these new running shoes that are coming out. The Asics met a speed race meter speed race. Yep. Yeah. So there was there was a shoe that Haytham was wearing beforehand and that was legal. It was it was like a tort. Yeah. That was a good a now commercial. The race, they weren't legal until the 11th of September.
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Unknown
So in two days. Yeah. So Thursday. Yeah. That's when they're legal. Yeah. So he's used them a month before they're legal. I mean it's not the end of the world. It's not like it's doping. I don't think it's anywhere as illegal as doping or anything like that. But it is still outside of the rules. And what where I was a little bit disappointed and there was even past.
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Unknown
I know John, for Dana commented on it, which what did he say? So John for Deano commented saying, he's one of the top comments here. Let's hope he's just he can't find it. But John for Deano essentially said, he would have wanted Birkenstocks. Yeah. I totally agree. He would've won that race anyway, I just don't I don't like I don't one I don't know if I agree with that.
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Unknown
And two, I don't like that kind of mindset. I think one, we've seen how the world blow up a number of times in races. It was it was no, not even a year ago. Halfway through 70.3 world Champs in Taupo, where yellow again, who got also got second in this race and significantly closed the gap in the closing stages of the T100 in French Riviera, he he outran Hayden in topless 70.3.
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Unknown
So people say, you know, it's not it's not much but I like and this comes to my second point when we're racing elite professional sport for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah. Which is what the what the TI 181. If he wins the series of T 100, that's a lot of money. And to to then say, you know, you're blurring the lines there when you when you're, when you bring in a rule and when you go through it, you stick by it because saying, what's the problem?
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Unknown
It's, you know, it's legal in two weeks anyway. Who cares? You're blurring the line there. Yeah. And when you blur the line there, you blur the line elsewhere 100%. And I think that's the point. If they don't disqualify Hayden and Sam Long for what they have used, an illegal product is illegal, is illegal. Illegal is still illegal. And if you want you sport to go down the line of and we're both in the sport, so we're speaking as athletes.
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Unknown
I've got nothing against those boys. We've both said how good Hayden was. Yes, we've we've celebrated hate him before. It's nothing against him. If it was anyone, we would. Yeah. Go. You're wearing a legacy with Matty. Hello. Yeah. Say the same about Matty. You can't bring illegal shoes in or an illegal product in, even though it's becoming legal.
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Unknown
It's like the super suits in swimming. Yeah. You can't just bring them back or go, oh, yeah, we're going to break the world records now using them. But the fact that it's illegal, we got to stick to the line in the sand. Otherwise it's going to be blurred and it's going to end up like a sport, like, cycling.
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Unknown
All right. Yeah. If you especially on the back of the whole world triathlon. Committee. Yeah. Scandal. Yeah. Which was pretty much a rort. Yeah. You can't have this sport go into disrepute where it's okay. Oh, we'll let the best guys in the world get away with it. And that's what that's. That's where I think the the case here is different because is it is it different here because it's hate and wild people.
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Unknown
People love hate him. What. He's got a very big following. He's got a very good name in the sport. Are we bending the rules because it's Hayden Wilde. Like he's such a nice guy, such a decent that we love him like he would have won anyway. Who cares? Yeah. What if it was somebody? What if like, you know, obviously there's athletes that I mean there's, there's imagine if it was a Russian athlete.
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Unknown
Oh we have yeah. Oh we have in the Soviet Union. Then if it was a you know, there's Chinese athletes that have been in the past done for cheating, doping scandals, it's different when it's them. Yeah. So we can't treat athletes different. And it's funny I and we're just going to say this and then we're just going to leave it.
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Unknown
I saw a comment that said he clearly acknowledged in the video that he knew he was wearing an illegal pair of shoes. If he's willing to do this in the race, it makes me wonder what he's willing to do behind closed doors. Well, we're going to leave that, no, we'll leave that there. I don't think so.
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Unknown
I mean, but but but like, we we all saw the video. We can we can share the video later on, on our socials if you, if you haven't seen it. But he does blatantly. He's wearing those. Yeah. And there was not a lot of remorse in him wearing the illegal pair of shoes like in the video I saw and we all saw.
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Unknown
He says, oh, nobody checks. It's all good. I'll just put them away. Here's my rebuttal to that on the side of potentially heighten. So you know how where you go to race if anyone doesn't know where you have to go check our shoes before it's all part of any world triathlon race. T 100 is run by World Triathlon.
00;20;07;14 - 00;20;28;25
Unknown
You have to nominate three countries and all that. Exactly like World Triathlon. Why haven't they checked your shoe? Like they check our shoes, see and go, what is that shoe? It's a meter speed right there. No, the leg, mate. Get out! You made the speed edges. Yeah. See? Yes. That is like us. If. But then if that's been a like they've just sign that off and gone.
00;20;28;25 - 00;20;53;23
Unknown
Yeah. No. No worries. It's safe for me. For me too. It's still sneaky. I still I still think it's sneaky. So I'm. Yes. One part of that is it's up to World triathlon to be stricter. They should check like they check any everybody else here so that that there is a part to where you blame the World Triathlon Association and go, look, you need to put your finger out here and start really doing these briefings.
00;20;53;23 - 00;21;21;12
Unknown
Right? Really checking these shoes. Right. Because it's clear you've just had two athletes performing illegal shoes. However, like Hayden said in the video, again quoting him or they don't check the shoes anyway, it's all good. Which is sloppy on World Triathlon, sloppy on World Triathlon. But for me, a level of sneakiness. Yeah, that I really, really, really don't like to hear from an athlete and an athlete of Hayden's caliber and I guess influence in the sport, a huge influence in the sport.
00;21;21;12 - 00;21;42;26
Unknown
So like you've got young kids looking at that going off. Hayden Wilde's trying to, you know, do some sneaky stuff, walk on on. There is a saying in sport though. Have you heard it? Yeah. The best cheaters are the best winners that never get caught. And I think that is the perfect example here. It's the ones that push the boundary as much as they can, as much as they can, and they'll be the best winner.
00;21;42;26 - 00;22;04;28
Unknown
And we've spoken about even the Norwegians before about, you know, their level of what they do in the labs and, you know, the are they doing anything illegal? Maybe not. Are they doing some stuff in the gray area? Potentially. It's gray area. We don't know. We're not you know, it's just how how how willing are you to operate on that line of what's right.
00;22;04;28 - 00;22;23;01
Unknown
What's wrong? It's the line, isn't it. Yeah. I and I think for, for Hayden and this is obviously very public like it was a very public video. I mean, for me, there is somebody with a camera in your face, for me, a bit stupid of Hayden, but he also made a massive Instagram post saying, yeah, I did wear the wrong shoes.
00;22;23;02 - 00;22;41;09
Unknown
I was to be not. You know, I still don't I still think the statements bullshit like for me, for me, for him to I think he's been let off so easy. I think he's been little so easy. I think he should be like, so when, when you have when you get caught for cheating in a doping scandal.
00;22;41;11 - 00;23;00;13
Unknown
Yeah. Three month ban minimum. It's usually a minimum three month ban. Bang. If you get if you get we talk about the AFL in the NRL. If you say an offensive slur. Yes five weeks is five weeks and you're probably paying a fine on top of that. That's true. Like what? Where where's the punishment to sort of say no, no, no.
00;23;00;15 - 00;23;18;20
Unknown
Like like in my opinion, World Triathlon should be coming in and here's the ban, here's a ban. Well, here's a he's the remove of the result. Yeah. Remove the result. You're the disqualified, you're banned or you're you got to, you know, it could be a it could be a fine or a fine or a even a month ban.
00;23;18;20 - 00;23;37;06
Unknown
Because a month ban, probably a race realistically probably doing 1 or 2 races in that I don't think it's a month ban. I think it's a take like in world try. If our shoes are illegal, you get removed from results. Yeah, that's what happens even if it's a disqualification. Yeah, I think you should. I think there has to be and I don't know, I'm not.
00;23;37;08 - 00;23;57;16
Unknown
I'm just an athlete who races this at a professional level, just like Hayden. I'm not at Hayden's level, obviously, but I've race item before. You know, I've raced multiple World Cups with Hayden like this. This isn't like something that you can just sweep under the rug and say, oh, he would want anyway. Who cares? Like, for me, this is a this is a point where I think world Triathlon should step in and make a stand.
00;23;57;16 - 00;24;13;14
Unknown
It say, look, from now on, this isn't acceptable. Don't think you can get away with this because you can't get away with this. Exactly. It's you know, you know, it's more of a thing on World Triathlon than I do. And I think Hayden's gone and done it. He probably doesn't care. He went and chose to wear those shoes.
00;24;13;14 - 00;24;26;14
Unknown
He doesn't care. Maybe you should care. That's that's what I would say. You should. You should care. But it should be on World Triathlon. Put your foot in the sand. Not. This isn't allowed. No one else will do it. Yeah. It's like okay. Almost like, okay, Hayden, if you don't care, we're going to make you care, all right?
00;24;26;14 - 00;24;47;16
Unknown
You disqualified. You give the prize money back. All right? Don't do it again. We'll take you back to last week. And we interviewed Aaron and Kenji. The boys found on the video. Kenji caught the boy, which is illegal. Yeah, that's a DK. It's another form of cheating. Yeah, exactly. So that was a different strain. Aaron making an Olympics.
00;24;47;16 - 00;25;07;18
Unknown
All three slots to Australia versus two. Yeah. So which is huge. Huge. And how much that went back to video review and the what is it a panel like a. Yeah. Get the word a judge right. Yeah. Something like that. It goes back to reference and yeah, yeah, they redo it. But it's exactly the same as that, I think.
00;25;07;18 - 00;25;30;09
Unknown
Like you can go back in retrospect and go, okay, this is illegal here. We strip that because it's a massive series and it goes towards a bigger thing than just one, two, 100 rice. And like we we've spoken about this a lot and it's tough for some people to comprehend. I think this is a job like triathlon for a lot of people is a job.
00;25;30;09 - 00;25;49;01
Unknown
It's my main source of income. It's a lot of those places. Yeah, it's his main source of income. It's like a lot of people in this, it's their main source of income. I don't know what the differences between first and second say. Hypothetically, it's 10,000 USD. Yeah, 10,000 USD. A lot of money, 16,000 AUD. It's a lot of money.
00;25;49;01 - 00;26;15;08
Unknown
Yeah. To, you know, hypothetically, take out of someone's pocket. So I don't I don't like the whole or he would want anyway. It doesn't matter. You'd never know. You never know. Like 18km is a long way. They might be minuscule changes or differences in shoes. Yeah, those minuscule differences might be the difference between winning and second. Yeah. So I don't know.
00;26;15;08 - 00;26;33;26
Unknown
That's just our hope. They just do something about it. I hope they do something about it. I think for the integrity of the sport, I think 100% owed to every kind of athlete out there to go. Like it doesn't matter if it's two 100 or I can't count, you can't wear the wrong thing. It's take away the guessing game when he tables back on your bike.
00;26;33;28 - 00;26;56;08
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. It's just I don't know, yeah I don't know. It's fine line sort of stuff, but as like we said, as athletes in the sport, I don't agree with what he did. I was disappointed with how almost nonchalant he was about it and okay with it. We've we're big fans of Hayden. Yeah. We've I mean, he's he's he's definitely copped it this week to be fair.
00;26;56;08 - 00;27;13;17
Unknown
Rightly so. But yeah, it's kind of I mean but I also think to be fair though, Hayden's copped a lot because he's one. Sam should cop it just as much now. Same shit he doesn't know. Yeah but still he still I know, I know Ethan, I've, I was joking that I do think I do think like like I said, shading.
00;27;13;17 - 00;27;31;19
Unknown
Shading. Yeah. If you're in the wrong, you're in the wrong. Both should be taken off start, but both should be taken off the finish results. And both should be. They could take your time and maybe. Yeah, financially punished in some way. Okay. Well that was big. That was big. I all worked up it. God. We're talking a lot about long course today and it's just not my thing.
00;27;31;19 - 00;27;54;14
Unknown
But I'm into it because long course is weekend. Yep. On man world champs. Huge. What? When when's what time does it kick off. Oh it's in the morning in Europe. So it's 6 a.m. in Europe. That'll be seven eight, nine, ten, 2 a.m. here. 2 p.m. 2 p.m.. Yeah. Do you use my fingers a little? Yeah. I just remember from trying to video call you.
00;27;54;15 - 00;28;12;20
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. What's what's the. Yeah. Yeah. True. 2 p.m.. I'll be watching it. It's about a seven hour race. Yeah. Seven at a little bit longer I think in NASCAR, because they're in names for the Ironman World champs this year. And it's only the men I actually really dislike how it's only I don't want to write it.
00;28;12;20 - 00;28;30;07
Unknown
Yeah I don't like it. It's back next year altogether. All in Kona. Yep. All in kind of next year. Starting on his right I love it, but on man world champs a big field. I love this day actually. I'll look forward. This is probably the only Ironman I watch. Yeah it's good. It's the only one I watch. I get hot for it.
00;28;30;07 - 00;28;50;01
Unknown
It's like the tour de France feeling. Yeah, no, there's always this massive media hype around it. It's still it's still very it's got that, nostalgia. Yeah. It does. I think I'm in world. Yeah. And when it's, when it's back in Kona, I think it will be even bigger. It will still be bigger and better. A lot of people say like, you know, Ironman racing is the reason that you get into the sport.
00;28;50;01 - 00;29;08;23
Unknown
Yeah. No, I mean, for some people it is, you know, Jamie Riddle said when he started on man, he said, you know, Olympics wasn't my first dream was Ironman. Kinda was my first dream. So, I mean, that's not for me. My first ever race I watch was London Olympics, so. Yeah. Well, I remember just the local triathlon iron man.
00;29;08;25 - 00;29;30;14
Unknown
Oh, man. Yeah. That's true. So for you probably would be. Yeah. The Ironman. So yeah, this is, this is gonna be cool. And it's getting Ironman is growing. Oh it's huge, as we said with sideways influences. Yeah, it's a thing to do. It's it's bigger than running a marathon. It's the next step of the marathon running hype, I think.
00;29;30;14 - 00;30;04;00
Unknown
And even elite athletes coming in at the younger ages. We're not seeing athletes, you know, just focusing on a a short course career for 15 years and then jumping into a long course career at the end of their year when they're probably a little bit slow, weary, over the hill kind of thing. You getting guys jumping into, you know, 22, 23, 24 and with this Ironman world champs, I think what's exciting for us is that there's a lot of short course guys who've transitioned after the Olympics got Martin Van Rio, Jamie Riddle, you've got, I don't call him the short course guy, but Nick Thompson, who's young, he was, we raised him,
00;30;04;02 - 00;30;27;15
Unknown
you know, Gustaf Aiden, Christian Blumenfeld, capstone is a. Yeah, there's heaps of guys. John Schomberg. Yeah, that's a pretty well, that would probably takes races. Yeah. Athletes. So it's huge. It's a massive world champs. I'm keen for it. I think it's a it's a good location as well. I think it's amazing that.
00;30;27;15 - 00;30;52;05
Unknown
Point three worlds there not too long ago. Yeah, it's it's cool spot. Never been there, but looks cool. Especially after having French Riviera the other day. It is one of the places. So you got four full world champions returning. Yeah. So that is it. The lot. Is it the last four years? Last four. Besides John for Dino. So we've got Patrick Lang, Kristian Blumenfeld, Gustaf Aiden and Sam Long.
00;30;52;06 - 00;31;09;15
Unknown
Yeah. Oh Sam. Samuel. I thought, wow, he's a winner right now. We play short course guys. Oh wait. These guys. Yeah, that's that's really cool. That is cool. So it's big. Yeah. So odds are I can one of the goats in there. Oh there are. Yeah. John. Yeah he's missing John. But that's all right. He's he's out there.
00;31;09;15 - 00;31;40;01
Unknown
He's done this thing. So he's epic. I mean it is tough. I can't really talk about how the race will go. No I think I think they'll break away a bit. But then it's a marathon. Like we can't I just he's going to win. And I think because we haven't raced it, it's hard for us to talk race dynamics when we're like, we can talk so close race dynamics all the time because we've raced a lot of the people who race, who are racing like, we know strengths and weaknesses, but this is just there's strengths across the board.
00;31;40;04 - 00;32;03;18
Unknown
Like every athlete has different profiles, every athlete has different strengths. And you know you're going to have a Jonah Schomberg, Sam Light Ludlow, probably a Jamie Renault. They're going to be pushing that swim bike. Yeah. You know they are Martin Van Real there as well. Like oh I don't see my I really like Martin and my heart wants to say Martin just because I love him as a character.
00;32;03;18 - 00;32;19;22
Unknown
Yeah. I don't know if he's got an iron man in him though. Yeah. He hasn't got enough Ironman results. No, because he's also been injured. Yeah. He hasn't been running. Okay. So that just so yeah, I will I did have him from a podium a day ago, but then I was like, oh, this is the only time we'll pick an Ironman.
00;32;19;28 - 00;32;37;19
Unknown
Yeah. Podium as well. We don't really pick many Ironman podiums. There's too many to follow. But this is the one we will. Christian believe we felt for the win. Yeah, I think he's I think he's been a little bit sloppy the last year or two. Like he's had some he's had some more Ironman wins. But yeah I'm in Texas.
00;32;37;20 - 00;32;56;21
Unknown
So he hasn't had any major wins since like it looks fit as well. He's been doing some stuff. Yeah I think this is I think this has been his focus this year. Yeah. Which is good for him. Yeah. He'll probably focus. Like I think Paris last year was obviously a little bit disappointing. He said he wanted to come back and do some things he didn't.
00;32;56;23 - 00;33;15;28
Unknown
I think we're going to see it, you know, I think we're going to see a 2022 Christian Bloom and Christian Bloom for 2021. 2022 Christian Bloom. Okay, well that's big. I'm going to Sam Long. Sam, not Sam Long. Sam Laidlaw I think Sam Laidlaw is going to be on the podium. I think he's got it. He's got confidence from that Roth.
00;33;15;28 - 00;33;44;04
Unknown
When he can outbox these boys, I think he's going to. It's in France. I have a theory. The French know how to show up in France. They just do it. They're eating their baguettes and their croissants and I just know how to do it. Load it up. He is French. Yeah, he's the most British French bloke. Yeah, I would say we we we might I that was so.
00;33;44;07 - 00;34;04;09
Unknown
Yeah. Okay. I can say I'm laid low. He's coming back. Okay. People read him off at the start of the year. He needs he's going to do it. What do we reckon about the hometown hero? Local boy, Aussie, green and gold for the flag. Well, I can both Nick Thompson and Kenworth. There is also another Aussie on the star.
00;34;04;10 - 00;34;23;23
Unknown
Is it Ben Hamilton or is he okay? Ben Hill, Ben Hill. So close. Close. Yeah. I can Nick Thomson has a top ten name I think Nick Tom as well and can worth around the same I think Nick Tom's I mean I said it Nick Thomson's our best. I think in my opinion Nick Thomson is our best long coast guy.
00;34;23;24 - 00;34;41;00
Unknown
Long coast guy at the moment. He can ride like a monster. We saw him do a VO2 Max test on Instagram the other day. He hit like 90 VO2 on the bike. Like, say that he's he's a freak and he can run off very well. He's hard. He's a hard. He's a hard man. He's got a terrible haircut.
00;34;41;04 - 00;34;58;28
Unknown
It's so funny. But he just came third in a, 70.3 somewhere in Europe the other day. Which is good science. Yeah, I, I yeah. Next. Nick's definitely going to be our next hope. I mean, he's still so young. Y'all know. Well, I give this guy eight years. He's your age I think he's a. Yeah yeah yeah.
00;34;58;28 - 00;35;20;02
Unknown
You're. He talking like we're so far apart. Well, you're two years older. Okay. Yeah. Young. And, I think he's my age. You might be younger. Yeah. 2324. Yeah. Imagine him in eight years. Imagine him when he's 30 to 32. Yeah. And those years in his legs. Yeah. He could he could be a world champion. Could be a so exciting.
00;35;20;02 - 00;35;41;06
Unknown
He's a very exciting prospect, Nick. When you're, when you're in the Gold Coast. Yeah. Hit us up. Yeah. Come on. We could do a collab. All guns pod. Yeah. All guns, unfunded pod. We got a couple colts. Yeah, I know, if you know a couple coming in. Next one, we kind of fallen back into our our domain area of expertise.
00;35;41;08 - 00;36;01;15
Unknown
This one, another big week of racing. Yeah. No, it's it's come up quick this back end this season kind of loud for a little bit. And then it's really hit it hit the ground running good. Good timing for us to get back into the pod 100%. WTS the third last round of the World Series in Karlovy Vary.
00;36;01;16 - 00;36;23;24
Unknown
Yep. Just a brutal, brutal course. Yeah. This one. This one's gonna this one's going to separate the boys from the men and the girls from the women. Yeah, I did what what what how do you think it's going to go? I think how it goes most of the time is a bike breakaway. It's too hot of this bike to not break up like the week.
00;36;23;28 - 00;36;42;11
Unknown
They can't just sit in here. So, I mean, I haven't seen the swim course as well. Have you seen it? I, I haven't seen the I'm, I'm just going off the assumption that it's still the same as the World Cup. So I loop around the island and come back. They loop around. But the first can is very close.
00;36;42;13 - 00;37;06;09
Unknown
So the like can number one is very close. It's probably 100, 100 and 200m. I have it right here. It's not far. I looked at it yesterday. Yeah. Look at that. First came very, very close. 200m. Then they loop around a little island. Come back. It's so twisty. Turn a lot of corners and that, sort of that sort of, swim course breaks it up when you're turning all the time.
00;37;06;09 - 00;37;22;21
Unknown
I think it breaks it up like the front guys that aren't bashing each other just straight out. You can have a how's it get to that can probably first. Yeah. I mean, it's Matty. How's a gun? Get out spade you can. I haven't saying the whole style is, but we've had some pretty strong swim black fields as of late.
00;37;22;21 - 00;37;39;17
Unknown
If a mark diver's there, he'll come around and just hold him there. Yeah. Hit a huge threshold. They'll string that out. Yeah, it will be the same in the women's as well. Like you don't have a Cassandra by Grant in there, but you have a Emma Jeffcoat. He's going to push the swim ultra strong on the bike as well.
00;37;39;19 - 00;38;01;08
Unknown
I think that front group in both races is going to go away as well. And naturally, that's that's how it happened in past, past World Cups that have been there. I think they said there's been a World Cup there since 20, 2017, and we've got majority of I think we've put the last four World Cup winners in the men's side racing this weekend as well.
00;38;01;08 - 00;38;36;02
Unknown
So you got to John Rage got a Morgan Pierce in, top of my head, plus, Lesser Lewis or and is the, Spanish squad. David. Dave came over to, Morocco. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that solid. You've got some guys that know how to know how to ride this course. Yeah. And like we said, even in the, World Triathlon preview that they did of this course, they, they very much say this is one that you got to have.
00;38;36;02 - 00;38;52;15
Unknown
Good black legs on you. You're going to have a, you're going to have a burger, you're going to have a, a wild, you're going to have a Hidalgo, they're going to be chasing hard and they're going to be pushing that black really, really hard. Yeah. So should we get into our predictions? We've done it on our phone so we can't copy each other.
00;38;52;15 - 00;39;11;08
Unknown
Yeah. This has been this is a tough one. This is a really tough one to pick because I've been very, very big on him all year. I've been very big on has a all year. I think I've nearly picked him for for the five. Yeah. You've been a has a frother I've been a has a frother and I mean come on.
00;39;11;08 - 00;39;32;26
Unknown
Right I mean yeah. World champion. And he's won three of them. So Hot Wheels has a Hot Wheels has been very hot. But I think I think this is the one he drops it. I think he might even save his bikes for Wollongong. Realistically I don't think he's going to race saving because I don't think so. But Larkin is thinking about Wollongong.
00;39;32;28 - 00;39;48;11
Unknown
He's thinking about the gong, these course gold at the gong. This course doesn't suit him. This course doesn't suit him though. No, not in my opinion. And I mean, like, I'm trying to bite my tongue here because literally in last week's episode, I said, hell, we need to start giving hazard a bit more respect as the world champ.
00;39;48;11 - 00;40;07;09
Unknown
He's the current number one. But sometimes I think you need to drop one to realize how bad you want it. Yeah. So I think the one who, I don't think you do too easy. So I think this is the one hazard drops. You still be in the top ten. I'm thinking to top ten. Yep. But I don't say has on the podium here.
00;40;07;10 - 00;40;25;29
Unknown
Yeah, I don't have him either. Yeah. Who do you have? Okay, so I've got even though we've just, rinsed him. I hope he know he can wear his race this weekend. And it's Hayden Ward. I thought you better. I've been saying I was, You can wear. He's made a spade. Right? So that's all good. There'll be no controversy.
00;40;26;00 - 00;40;43;12
Unknown
Yeah, I think Hayden's got. He's got that bit of mongrel about him, especially after a bit of controversy. I think he's gone. He didn't form how he wanted to double off. And he's he likes to be the alpha. I think he's going to go there and he's going to try and absolutely destroy the bike he's got. He's got this in his legs.
00;40;43;12 - 00;41;01;25
Unknown
Yeah. We say some some fingers to maths. You reckon? I think we will if he wins. He's got a flat those wings and he's going to shush everyone because people have been shushing a lot lately. And then I've got Vasco. I think he's in some form. He's nice and light. He's going to swim at the front, I think.
00;41;01;25 - 00;41;24;13
Unknown
Yep. And then I've got Miguel Hidalgo. I think those boys have just been so good this year. Those three. But I think I think, hazard might just miss it. I being fourth, I think those three four will be running together for most of the race. It just depends on how hard that box kind of drilled. I'm roughly around the same as you.
00;41;24;13 - 00;41;44;21
Unknown
I feel like I feel like it's not like we're pretty dialed in with these sort of picks. I've got Miguel Hidalgo for the win, Miguel Hidalgo for the win. He. We saw him do it in the Italian race. Bit of a he he loves the Olympic distance. Bit of a stronger bike. Bit of a tougher bike. Yeah.
00;41;44;24 - 00;42;01;23
Unknown
So I got him winning Hayward in second. I did. Well I think he'll do something. I think he'll bike and run majority of them down. Yeah. But I don't, I don't, I mean just same like putting his head down and motoring. Yeah. Yeah I think he's definitely he'll definitely do something. And then. Oh they had it.
00;42;01;23 - 00;42;28;15
Unknown
I don't know if you know, if he's on the start list. Is Leo Badger on the start list? Oh, I think he was. There was a Frenchie. It was during carnage. Was it conics? They spoke about him in the, Yeah, I he's not. No. Okay. Well I had him third. Okay. Well then I'm going to go Vasco Veloso okay.
00;42;28;17 - 00;42;47;04
Unknown
Miguel Hidalgo same old Vasco Velocore same bit in a different order. Same, but in a different order. Okay. I think the women's I don't think anyone's really going to bridge up on the bike. I think it's going to be like how it has all year in the women's. It stayed away, especially with these good swimmers. Those girls up front are so strong.
00;42;47;04 - 00;43;07;23
Unknown
Yeah. And they're so strong on the bike. And they're equally as good as those second pack runners. Yeah. So I think it's just dominating at the front. These women I've got on the hair. No okay. Yeah I just don't know why I don't pick it over I know John the here I've got the only perio. And leave Matthias.
00;43;07;24 - 00;43;32;09
Unknown
Whoa. Yeah I the podium. No she came third. It you know Italy, Italy. So I've put the same. She lives in the UK. I feel as if that's a really hard environment to train. It's really hilly I think. And she swims well as well. And I think her runs coming well like come along heaps this year. Oh there's some especially the ten k I think those girls are going to be hurting over time Kate.
00;43;32;10 - 00;43;52;28
Unknown
It's going to be pushed hard. But yeah I think those those girls are going to podium. I've kind of gone I've kind of go in a similar, similar way. Do you? I've got the only pair to win. Yep. Beth, part of a second. Yep. Taylor's Bobby for third. Okay I've got Taylor. She's a strong athlete. Yeah. Like Taylor is a very strong athlete.
00;43;52;28 - 00;44;12;12
Unknown
She's made a couple, two 100 debuts this year. Very good team up, very good cyclist. And she's usually around the mark on the run. And I think just having that extra bit of strength, the hills aren't going to take it out of her as much as it will take out of some of the others. So yeah, the only Perry out Beth Potter titles Bobby co, I like it.
00;44;12;12 - 00;44;32;17
Unknown
I definitely think two breakaways again, I think a couple of the boys will bridge up, but other than that I don't think it's, going to change much. That's good. That's exciting. I can't wait to just sit on the couch again and watch triathlon for another weekend. Got another so much sport going on as I got two games of footy finals this weekend.
00;44;32;17 - 00;44;54;15
Unknown
To watch them we go I'm wearing a crows jersey again on Friday. Got got a you know fingers crossed heart will be beating, a heart will be beating. I'm going to the Gabba this Saturday. Oh did you get tickets I got tickets. Well yeah. So again like we said Suns made it through to the next final. So it's a Gold Coast Brisbane first ever key clash in the final I got tickets thanks to my friend.
00;44;54;23 - 00;45;12;21
Unknown
So my friend got me some tickets. So, Yeah I'll be heading up there Saturday. That's pretty good. Yeah I know so we got two games of footy. We got two triathlon, two triathlons, of course, and then we got I'm a niece. Oh, that's a weekend. Oh, that is such a headache. Sorted guys. And you can listen to us on the Friday.
00;45;12;21 - 00;45;32;14
Unknown
Yeah okay. We'll kickstart your weekend. Oh that's awesome. Good. All righty. We'll wrap it up. We'll wrap it up there. We'll keep it short and sweet. Once again from both light and I thank you so much for listening. We've been getting a lot of love these last couple weeks from being back, and a lot of people really happy that we're back.
00;45;32;14 - 00;45;48;28
Unknown
And again, like we say it all the time, sometimes we forget how many people actually do listen to us. We still only got a small following, but we've got a very special community. Yeah. But yeah, we're very grateful to be able to come in here and just speak about what we want to speak about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00;45;48;28 - 00;46;08;08
Unknown
And if you have any suggestions on what you want to hear us talk about, I don't know any guests or whatever, something like that. DM us. We always like your opinions. I think that's where then we can cater our kind of rubbish that we speak to. That. Yeah. Sounds good. All righty. Well, we'll leave it there. That's a wrap.
00;46;08;13 - 00;46;31;00
Unknown
So 24. Again, like Layton just said, if you want to dam us with the unfunded, put it on Instagram. Or you can also send us an email at no, not at the unfunded podcast at gmail.com. Perfect. All righty. Like I said, Happy Friday guys. You enjoy those weekends. Bye. Some JK lager. Yeah, but.
00;46;31;00 - 00;46;37;28