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The Local Ormeau Property Chat with Brett Reddell
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Hi, and welcome to the local Ormeau Property Chat podcast. I'm Brett Redell, your trusted local real estate expert for Ormeau and Ormeau Hills. Whether you are buying, selling, or just curious about the market. This podcast is here to give you the insights and advice you need, plus a little community connection along the way with a passion for selling family homes to families.
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Good day everybody. It's Brett Redell here, your local area specialist in Northern Gold Coast. Look something a little bit different today. Got a special guest in and I wanna talk about renovations now. I've been watching his journey online and um, there's been some comical side of it. There's a lot of hard work that he's putting into it, but it's actually interesting 'cause renos.
Everyone wants to do them, but they're sometimes not as easy as they expect. So, um, I'd like to welcome Jono McCullough. How you doing, mate? Yeah, good, good. Thanks for coming in, mate. I really appreciate it. I know you're busy and I know you're, you got a lot going on at the house at the moment.
Oh, of course.
So, so it's, I feel pretty privileged to have you here, so thanks mate. Appreciate it. He's also a really good mate, good bloke. So, but I've got some questions for you mate. So what attracted you to doing Renos? Like what, what was it?
So I originally was looking for a splitter block to do, 'cause I'd done that before.
I love Palm Beach, so I wanted to do it there. And I found out that corner blocks can be split even, you know, they don't need to be medium density. So I was looking at mostly corner blocks, but I think they're a bit overdone. I was running sort of zos on 'em and the price people want for the block. If you add in everything and you need to.
You need to know that it's gonna cost you a lot of money and time just to get the da and then the BA is just as bad. Yeah. And if you don't have the time and the money for all of that, don't do it because it, it takes time. But I'd run the fiso and it would come out that I would spend all this time and effort and money and I'd probably just break even.
So the only people. I found making money on splitters nowadays was the people selling the original dump of a house that they, you know, didn't want. So I actually had this agent randomly was like, oh, why don't you buy and renovate? And I was sort of like. I personally didn't think there was any money in that in pa.
And then I started looking around at what you can pick a place up for if it has had nothing done or very little done compared to a house that is nicely renovated and there was a big spread. There's a big gap there. So I saw, you know, possible margin, possibility. And so I started I, the house I ended up buying.
We went there to fill some time during the day, so we had like. Eight listings we were going to on this sad day, we had a spare hour, and I just said, oh look, this one's open at that time, let's just walk through it to have a look, you know, take up some time. And we walked in and I just. I don't know what it was.
I just saw possibility. It had good bones. Yeah. Cliche as a dust bullshit word. Um, but it did, it had, um, it structurally was good. It was a brick solid brick house. No cracks, no nothing has been there for 50 years or something. Yeah. Nice. And so. I just, and in my mind I immediately walking through, started getting ideas.
I was like, oh man, you could knock out this wall and if you did this and you could, why doesn't this thing have a pool? It's got so much space and you know, all the fences were old asbestos fences. That's what I've been doing the last couple months. Fun. I've seen that part digging. Luckily it's sand, but the problem is all the palm trees, man.
Yeah. Wow. Palm roots. The root systems are pretty, aren't they? The root systems are out of control. So anyway. We left the house and I just said to Ellie, I was like, I think I wanna buy that place. And that afternoon we had it under contract and it was done. Oh wow. It been impulse by then? Well, we were looking for something and we had been for months.
I see as impulse buyers, you do not plan on buying a house and then you buy a house. But it was impulse in that it wasn't what I was thinking and it was more than what I was thinking. 'cause I'd given up on the splitter block idea, they were all 2 million plus to buy just a block.
Yeah.
With a crap house on it that you have to get rid of.
And so we'd sort of gone right down into the low one millions range. Mm-hmm. We're sort of looking at, mm-hmm. Sort of townhouse and things outside of where I wanted to truly live being palm. And so this was a bit more than what I was hoping at the time, but I was like, I sold a bunch of shares, a bunch of crypto just before it tripled.
Oh no. Oh, November last year you could've bought that quarter block after all. Oh, I could have, yeah, if I just waited another few months. But that's fine. And yeah, and we did it and as soon as I got in, I just. I've been loving it. I've been just getting in and yeah, really enjoying it mate. It's been a good journey to watch online, I've gotta say.
Yeah. I've only just started putting, I need to put more stuff up. You too. If people, people do enjoy, you know, that following a journey along.
Oh, a hundred percent. Just, you know, to see a, a product and where it starts, where it finishes, it's a big difference. And hopefully you got lots of photos to catalog.
'cause that's the most important thing. Yeah. Is remembering that yourself.
Yeah, that's what I've been doing recently. Getting the camera out, doing before and afters.
I can't wait to see it finished. I gotta say. It's interesting, like you talked about doing zos. A lot of people don't do that. Like they go into it and they just think, I'm gonna rent, I'm gonna make money.
Mm.
But you need to do a fiso because every area is different and you, you know, if you're not looking at Palm, we know Palm's got great growth. Yeah. But if you come up my way and you're in all Allman Norway Hills, you're not gonna get that growth. We are so much. Yeah. Yeah. So fis are really important and if anyone's out there and you know you're considering doing a flipper or a reno, make sure you do that.
If you're not sure how to do it, just touch base chat. GPTI think I got that right. Jump on there and, and do your fis on there because you don't want to go into something where you're gonna really overcapitalize. 'cause that just destroys the profit. Yeah. What you're doing it for. So I suppose, you know, we talked about financial benefits, but doing the fees is gonna get you the financial benefits.
Yeah. Are you. Are you looking at it as a financial gain or is this a, this a forever.
No, the more I live there and the more effort I spend on it, the more I am kinda like, fuck, I kind of wanna stay here a bit longer. But nah, at the moment I'm just doing it to flip it and then I want to do it again and do it again and nice.
Just keep sucker for
punishment. Maybe, mate, you need to go to Bunnings, they've got good gloves. Ellie will be able to get a pair mate.
Oh,
Ellie.
Yeah, she's, she's, she, she tried to give me a hand but didn't work out so good. Um, but man, I'm punching through the gloves. Hey, you, you would be blocks Caesar blocks?
Yeah. They, they cut through.
Surprised you didn't have bird. I go through a pair
every couple days. Like a Oh, went away. Yeah. Decent gloves. They just tells 'em to pieces. How many pallets did you get? I think it was 18 pallets. 72, the truck was two blocks. Yeah. Wow. That's, that's like, that was this load. Then I had another seven or something for the last one.
It's not building a new house, mate. It you could almost build a new house with the amount of blocks I have. Yeah. Because all up it'll be 65 lineal meters of fence. Yeah. Wow. And about 1.8 to two high. Did the neighbors go halves? I am. That's a work in progress. Yes. So the first neighbor I asked still hasn't agreed.
The second neighbor I asked is the wall I'm doing now. And the third neighbor I asked, the wall's already done 'cause she just went. Let's do it done. And I was like, I've never actually done this before. So,
yeah.
You know, I've got a mate who's an engineer who's gonna help me with what I need to do, but I'm just, and she's like, you'll be fine.
And she's like, every time I've got an invoice, just send it through her. She put the money in my bank. She was awesome. Lesser, she's got talent trust in you. Yeah,
it looks good. Like the photos of the walls look pretty straight. I've gotta say. Yeah, not too bad. Wait for the next storm to come through.
What's the hidden cost? I'm doing as much of it myself as I can, so hidden costs are unforeseen for me. So whether it be digging, breaking a water
pipe,
well, I removed some flashing and realized that. The, I think they must have lifted the roof up. Oh. And they, there is just wooden crap everywhere when they've lifted it up.
So like that's gonna take me more cost and time. I didn't realize, I'd say one thing I wish I did better was the building and per reading it really thoroughly and understanding because I have found some things and I was like, oh, I'm gonna see this building a PEs guy. And then I went back and looked and there it was.
He told me, oh, I just
didn't read. Did you commission him? The agent did. Ah, see that, that's, that's a concern. That's a whole nother topic. That one. Yeah. Agents giving, building and PEs reports. Yeah. Okay. Always a worry.
Yeah. Look, I, they did a cover page, which I read, and on that cover page, it was pretty much, it's all good to go.
But then within the building in PEs, there was a lot of things that were not good to go. I didn't realize there were holes in the roof for rust holes until. Couple months after we moved in. Oh wow. It started coming through. Yeah. Things like that. Like the back of the house, the, it's missing. Missing a facia.
So the gutter system on the back of the house is completely ruined. It just runs everywhere.
So they're two new costs. You've gotta do like doing a roof line. Yeah. You're gonna, you know, color bond, roof. What's that gonna be? What, 15, 20 grand?
Yeah. Well, I'm gonna remove. The back part of the house is damaged.
Mm-hmm. So I'll have to replace all of that. The front of the house is actually, looks like it has been replaced at some stage. Yep. So, but yeah, all little things that I, I was just so keen to get in there and you know, I don't have any regrets except for I should have probably read the building and PEs a bit better.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I suppose when the cover page says it's good, yeah. You wouldn't expect the rest of it to bad, which, and
it really was bad. There was so much stuff there was missing.
It's definitely a big one and we see a lot in the industry where. The agent will give you a commission report and they force you to buy the house off that report.
They won't let you get your own building and pest. And you know, my advice to people is just walk away regardless of what the, the gain could be. Be very open dyed to what's actually wrong. Yeah. Because you know, if you are gonna renovate, you're open to renovating and changing the home. Yeah. But you don't wanna get a house, you've gotta knock down.
No,
no. That's a whole other motivation.
The fact that I was renovating, I sort of don't mind fixing up a few things here and there. Yeah, but look, you, you live and you learn. But the, the big one is a feasibility I think for people because I'm doing most of the stuff myself. There's a quite a big saving.
Yep.
I realize now why all tradies are driving round in these enOrmeauus American Rams, $200,000 rams. Yeah, they charge lots of money. Like that's plumbers
do. Plumbers. Plumbers the richest, aren't they?
So I have hit three pipes now. Three weeks I've had, you've done well.
Yeah. Didn't do the do before you buy thing.
Piping is just everywhere in this house. In the back corner where it doesn't need to be. There is mains running there. So anyway, but I, the first time I hit a pipe, rang the plumber and he's like, yeah, it's $300 to come. Have a look at it. And I was like, Ugh. And I just was like, I'll call you back. Got my phone out.
How do you fix a pipe? Yep. $8 92 cents a Bunnings. Got this piece perfect. Fixed it in an hour. Yep. And so. Every time I hit one, I'm like, okay, it's another hour of my life.
Go
to
Bunnings. Get the bit, yeah, well it's a lot cheaper. I mean, it was 300 bucks if you took a photo and showed him. 'cause he just wants to have a look.
Yeah, I know. But that's a big saving, right? Yeah. Yeah. And the wall that I did, the first one was $25,000. Quote I got, I did it for 8,900. Yeah. Wow. And so that's a, you probably pay for your roof now. Well, that's the thing. It's a big difference, isn't it? Yeah. So. It depends on how much you're willing to do, but I would tell people like, give it a go.
I. I don't know. I, I, I never did a trade or anything. Yeah. But I think if you've got a bit of time and you're willing to put in a bit of effort, like that's better than a wage I could get if I went and got a job. Right? Yeah. So I'm sort of looking at this Reno as every week, and I think it's important to do this every week I try and work out what did I save this week by working on the Reno, and it can be three grand, five grand or something like that.
And. That to me. I go, okay, that's my wage for this week. Yeah, I've done, you know, I've done really well. Give yourself a pat on the back and keep going, but. Just know if you're paying tradies, man. Yeah, I should. My dad told me it should have been tradie. Like Well, you doing it 25 years ago. Yeah.
But you are in a lucky position too.
So you've got other businesses in your portfolio, let's say that prop you up for that. The normal everyday renovate might not have that ability to be able to just take time off work to do.
Yeah.
Um,
I do think if you're. Business owner, there are things you can do to remove yourself from the business. So I get up five 30 every day, go to a cafe with the laptop, and I do about three hours on the laptop for the businesses, make sure all the marketing and everything's going okay for them.
You know, do we need more supplies? Stuff like that. And then I have VAs virtual admin who do a lot of the answering of emails and phone calls and things like that. Take a lot of the load off. Mm-hmm. Um, and I sort of learned that probably about five years ago, I sold the biggest business I had, which was a financial planning.
And then I just had a mortgage broking and an accounting business. And I. Everyone thinks no one else can do this work but me. I'm the only one who can do this. It's not true. A VA can do it and you can get ones in the Philippines and stuff that you pay 10 bucks and if it's, yeah. If it's teachable work, if you can teach someone to do it in a couple weeks, it's a, it's a big amount of work for those few weeks and it's frustrating, but then the freedom you get on the other side is incredible.
Yeah. And so that's sort of what I did where I try and get the bulk of the work, mostly questions, queries. And at the start, you know, you have to tell 'em every single answer to every single question, but then they understand and they start to
yeah,
realize and you can get them responding to emails. Yep.
They'll call you and be like, Hey, I am not sure about this one. You tell 'em what to do and then they know for next time.
Which is, which is good.
Yeah. And that takes, that gives you now time.
Exactly.
So a couple hours, two to three hours in the morning doing that, and then I'm out renovating for the rest of the day.
Nice. Living the dream, mate. Well, yeah. Maybe I can get my assistant to. Pull your finger out, mate. Come on, Ethan. It's time to step up buddy. Time to step up. He's hiding behind the screen. Doesn't like to be filmed, but, um, I'm sure John o will, uh, ed him on. So I suppose the big thing is, and we did touch on this.
How important is location? It's probably more of a you question to
be fair, but if you want my 2 cents, yeah, please put it in my uneducated 2 cents. Like when you have property booms like we just had for COVID, everywhere goes up. Right? Everywhere. Yeah. But you will find areas that have more consistent growth at a higher rate.
I would say the. The people love being near the beach, the closer you are to the beach, and that's sort of the, the situation I'm in. Whereas if you're in Brisbane, it might be closer to the city. You know, things like that. I think it's important. I think negative gearings dead in my opinion. I, I still, I had someone just the other day saying they wanted to buy a unit and they asked me, oh, what do you think of this?
I was like, oh, it's gonna be running pretty negative with that Body Corp, which is quite high. And they're like, oh, I want it to be negative because I need it for my tax. And I'm like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I'm like, that's what they use it for. Well, yeah, you don't want anything to ever be negative.
Ideally, um, you're getting 40 cents in the dollar back, so you're losing 60 cents for every dollar. Yes. You get some tax back and yes, that seems like a win at the time. You're still losing. Yeah.
So, yeah, but it comes on strategy too. So I get a lot of investors, and I ask 'em the question, are you long term or short term?
Mm. Because there's a different type of investing. So long term doesn't matter. You're probably gonna go up and down the whole time. Yeah. The idea is that you build that gap of equity in between because your tenant's paying it down. Yep. And your loan's going down, your rents are gonna go up. So ideally, it's a long term strategy to own it.
At the other end. So it just becomes, whether it's a cash cow while you're traveling or it becomes a lump sum of money you put in the bank when you, when you retire. Yep. So I suppose it's the strategy around that too. Yeah. I love high yielding things. Yeah. All the
investments I look at. You like paying tax?
Is that what you saying? Sure. Yeah. The more tax you pay, the more money you're earning. You're doing well. Like, everyone's like, Ooh, tax. It's like, yeah, you're earning money. Shut up.
It's a hundred percent. I totally get it. Yeah, and it's,
it's whether it be property or not, though, I just love things that yield anything that can get you income.
'cause that offsets what I need to earn then for me to make what I need to make each month. So the more I try and always have some investments that are returning some sort of a yield. So, yep. I. Have to work less, but for Bitcoin to go down a bit more. At the moment, Bitcoin's gone down a bit. Yep, yep. Which makes me a bit happy 'cause I sold so much.
I, I sold it in two ranches. So one was November and one was like six weeks ago. Just before it boomed
again. I had two Bitcoins. It was end up being a Ponzi and they were $14,000 was uh, they were 7,000 back then. Actually. The Bitcoin. Yeah. Imagine what they're now 181,000, something like that. Yeah. I think they came back down.
That's terrible. People ripping us off when you are renovating. You can't budget for the secrets and the surprises, can you? No, but that's where you just have to have allowances, so, so what would you recommend as a, if I said I've got a hundred grand to spend on a renovation. Mm. What would you allow as a buffer?
Well, how much are you doing yourself? What are you looking to do? Yeah, like a pool. Is half of that gone in one go? Best case scenario. Are you digging a hole? I'm doing as much of the pool as I can. I'm trying to work out. What to do. I think I might've talked to you about this. I was looking at these six meter swim spa.
'cause I'm gonna have a six meter pool.
Yeah.
Um, so I was thinking a six meter swim spa. It's the same size as the pool. Yeah. Dual zone. I'll have one cold, one warm. You can run like a magnesium. So throat. Yeah. To me that's great. But some people I've talked to Oh, absolutely not. People wanna pool and I'm like, it is a pool.
It is a pool. It's the same size as the other one. Just turn the jets off so you Yeah, I know.
Do you want me to turn the lights and jets off and then it will be a pool? Yeah. Pools are funny because. You, you look at like young families have pools 'cause kids like to get in the pool.
Mm.
But then what I realized is as they grow up.
They don't wanna swim. Mm-hmm. They're, they're not interested unless their mates are all over and they're having beers and they wanna jump in the pool, but sort of becomes defunct. And then as you get older, you wanna go and sit in the pool and relax. Yeah. You're not throwing tennis balls at each other.
I'm sure Ellie's not gonna be appreciative. Lay up there having a float around and you're chucking balls out. Yeah.
And like, I like the dual zone, so you've got an, a big area where the kids can, you know, jump around and splash around and then you got little adults area where you can all chill. Stay down there.
How far, how far is the beach? What. A minute walk, two minutes. Oh, from me? Yeah. Uh, I am in the middle of, there's canals on the other side of me. Yeah. So you've gotta walk around. So it's about a 15 minute walk from where I'm, that's still pretty close to the beach. It's, it's, yeah.
Yeah. Not bad. Get a scooter, mate.
Just scooter down. I'll walk.
It's fine.
I'd catch an Uber. Love it. Just saying, why not? I just keep the economy going. You tell yourself that button. So you had a really, really good mentor. Um, in your early days teaching you the craft mm-hmm. Do you think that's benefited you?
Absolutely. I think everyone should try to get a mentor, whether it be, so, if you're in a business, find someone, and I've told this to Ellie recently actually.
I'm like, find someone in your industry who you respect, who you admire, who you think they're doing it so well, and just reach out to them. Yeah. And either. See if, see if they'll just let you buy them lunch every month or if not, pay them. Yeah. Like offer to pay them their advice and knowledge going through business.
The first sort of three or four that I had, I just winged it and ran with it and you had ups and downs and stumbles and you learned the the hard way and it's horrible and it makes it so much more difficult.
Yeah.
If you can go to someone who's gone through all of that, all of those. Problems. And it's the same with investing.
Mm-hmm. It's the same with buying a property. It's the same with everything in life really. Yeah. If you wanna renovate, find someone who's good at it, you know? Yeah. Say, hey, I'd love to buy your lunch and rack your brain and you know, '
cause where do you start? Unless, unless, you know, some people just think it's, you know, it's carpeted paint and sometimes it is.
Mm. Now that's not what we call a flipper. We're just sort of giving it a, a fresh facelift and making it smell nicer. Yeah. But you know, renos can take many forms, you know, especially if the house is up off the ground. You know, you gotta whole, you gut the whole interior of your house and change everything in the home, but what's the cost gonna be?
Where's it gonna go? Yeah. They're probably one of the best renos to do because the transparency under the house.
Yeah.
But if you're on a slab on the ground, it's harder because you're limited to what you can do. You dig in pipe, work through concrete and gets expensive, you know, concrete saws and the depth of the slab.
So it's always a, it's always a mystery, but it's still a lot of planning. Yeah, that's for sure. It's, it's an interesting, it's an interesting thing we see a lot of, yeah. But I know you are very strategic in how you do things in your planning, so you've, you've obviously gone to this with a full knowledge of what you wanna achieve too.
Well, yeah, and I asked a lot of people, so. In my area, I went to the top agents. Yeah. And I said, okay. I got them round, said, Hey, love you to pop round. Got some questions for you. And just asked a couple of them, what, what do you think I should do renovation wise? What are people wanting to see in the market?
And I planned on putting a second story on, and every agent who came went, don't.
Yep.
Not worth the money. A lot of our people nowadays do not want a second story. They just want a big, you know, open plan home, get as many bedrooms in there as you can. So mine will be a four bed. Yeah. Nice. And they want, and the guys will like storage, they love storage, you know, car spaces, garages, things like that.
So that. Was massive for me 'cause I was dead set keen on doing a second level and now I'm not gonna do one.
Yeah. They get expensive
and you don't know
whether your
current footings are gonna coat, which means you've gotta put a skeleton around the outside. Engineering wise. Yeah. You have to look into all of that.
But the big thing is for me, I'm renovating to sell. Yeah. So I do not wanna spend $1 more than I have to or than I if I'm not gonna get $1 50 or $2 back from that dollar. And putting a second level on, they all just said, you will spend more then it will increase the value of your home. Don't do it. Could be 250,000 to put a top on it.
Easy. Yeah. Minimum. Yeah. And you gotta make
sure you get the price back. So because you don't really need the views there. You've got the lifestyle anyway. Yeah. And once you put the spa in out the back and you've got that nice, you know, outlook for the kids, the family, yeah. Close to the water. Got fantastic cafes and restaurants.
Yeah. So you've definitely ticked a lot of boxes when it comes to what people would want. Living the Queensland life.
Yeah, I'm gonna put a carport on 'cause that will get an extra two off street car spaces undercover. Gonna put the pool in. Do the fencing system's been a mission but. I think with nice fences, I'm gonna, at the moment what I'm doing is a sunken in fire pit area.
Yeah, nice. I've got a fair bit of yard and there's this corner where they had some veggie patches. So I've moved, they were old and rotting the wood, so I've done, I actually put them on marketplace. My mates were like, you'll never sell 'em. And I was like, I reckon get a hundred bucks each from 'em. And they were like, you're dreaming.
And I was like, I'm gonna put 'em on for 150. I sold them in 20 minutes. Oh, no way. 150 bucks each. There were like six of 'em, so, oh, geez. Yeah, I know. But then I've done concrete ones, so block work, ones that I'll, so I'll have two of those. Fire pit area. I'll run over the bathrooms and the kitchen. And apart from, I'll do a bit of stuff in the laundry, a bit of cleaning up like new carpets, paint a few walls, but.
Try and do as much myself as I can, try and know my limits of capabilities because you don't wanna be doing something and then having, it'll be done, right. It has to be done right. Especially like in the area I'm in, it's sort of the 2 million plus range I'll be getting into. So people will expect a certain sort of level of quality.
So. If I get to a point where I realize I'm outta my depth, I'll, you know, bring a professional in.
But paintings probably the biggest thing we see in Renos. Is that they, oh, we painted the house and it's like, oh yeah, I can see where, because it's bad. Yeah. It's like you can see the paint bleeding through behind, or you got brush marks up on the corners.
Mm-hmm. It's, you know, you gotta have it, right? 'cause yeah, it's the visual stuff. Then people go, oh, they did it themselves. What else did they do themselves? Yeah. So now we start taking money off the price. Yeah. But it's the little things. It's the bits that people look at. If they're right, it's spot on.
You're gonna get the best return. Can't see what's underground. Yeah. You know, like it's, it's hidden money at the end of the day. Yeah. But yeah, painting, so if you're out there and renovating, get a painter or be very good at it. Yeah. That's all I can suggest. Mask up. Yeah. So, so mate, a lasting comment or a something to tell anybody who wants to renovate, what's probably the most important thing at the very start they have to do to just make sure that they're doing.
Getting the right result. So this is your, if you could give 'em a sentence of something they've gotta do, what would that, what would that look like?
All I did and what I'd say to try is look at the unrenovated homes in the area and then, so look at a four bed, two bath, two car garage, you know, 50-year-old house with no renos.
And then find something that's been renovated. Yep. Look at the difference in the price. Yeah, try and work out, talk to people, talk to a builder, try and work out to get it up to that level, what it would cost. And if you've got. A difference there. If you've got some profit margin, then go for it. Try and do as much for the stuff yourself as you can.
'cause you will save a lot of money. Whether they be little things like tidying up the yard is not hard. Yep. You can do it yourself. You know, building a fence, it's not that difficult. Yeah. You know, give it a crack. The amount of money you'll save will be ridiculous. Everything's online, but yeah, but talk to agents.
Know what people want in that area. Yeah. That's so important because if you're not doing that, you, this is the same in business as well. Don't assume you know what the market wants. You know, you might be like, oh, a hundred percent. You know, people don't want pools. I'm gonna pull a pool out of this house.
Yep. That might be the worst decision you ever make, but don't assume what the market wants. Do a budget. And, and talk to professionals. You know, talk to your agents in the area, talk to builders. Get an idea and yeah, have fun with it.
It's good. Yeah, which is great advice. So look, anybody who's wanting to Reno, just watch the podcast.
This is what Jono said 'cause there's some really good tips in there. Google it. Like he said, talk to the right people. You want to get the best result out of it. So hey, thanks for tuning in, John, I thank you so much. No worries man, mate, really appreciate take time. I know you got a lot on, I think you've got a trailer out the front there for the dirt, ready to go.
Um, and probably another one after that. Yeah, I'll leave Ethan down here for you if you like. You'll spend the day. My man. You're the man. He might be thin, but he's strong. Yeah,
he's got a better back than me. I can see. Hundred percent.
Hundred percent. But like, um, again, like I said, thanks very much. Really appreciate it.
So guys, thanks for tuning in. Any questions, drop a line. Give us a call. I'm sure you can connect with Jono on socials. Go and have a look at what he's done. There's some good, funny things there to watch and you know, they're the errors that can happen. Yeah. You just don't know where something is underground.
Until you strike it with a shovel. But, uh, yeah, and even the fence footings, that was another one for you too. But, but yeah, thanks again, Brett Redell, sign out for now and, uh, we'll chat soon. Thanks for listening to the local Ormeau Property Chat podcast. I hope you found today's episode helpful and feel more empowered on your real estate journey.
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