WE ARE Marty Supreme

In a capitalist, corporate economy that shames innovation and ridicules creativity, Gen Z struggles to find ways to balance fulfillment with career success. In this episode, we discuss the new film, "Marty Supreme," and how relevant it is to young adults in todays society.

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Liu, Jennifer. “High Housing Costs Have Kept 31% of Gen Z Adults Living at Home.” CNBC, 11 Jan. 2024, www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/high-housing-costs-have-kept-31percent-of-gen-z-adults-living-at-home.html.

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“More Than You Think!" is a podcast that explores the deeper layers of pop culture, uncovering how today’s trends connect with the political, economic, and social climate shaping our world. Each episode dives into the ways music, media, and cultural moments reflect — and influence — the society we live in. "More Than You Think!" is a podcast produced by WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1/HD-2 at NC State University.

Valerie: What's up, you?
Valerie: So, so.
Valerie: Okay.
Valerie: Welcome back to another episode of More than you Think.
Valerie: Is that the new theme song of this?
Valerie: Of the show?
Valerie: Well, no, I'm never doing that again.
Valerie: Welcome back to More than you think though.
Valerie: This is a podcast.
Valerie: Wait, I'm gonna do my impression of Chris from Total Drama Island.
Valerie: This is a podcast about how political, social, and economic events interact with pop culture and thusly affect our daily lives.
Valerie: Okay, that was pretty bad, but you get the idea.
Valerie: That's what the podcast is about.
Valerie: And today we are going to be talking about a movie that I recently watched.
Valerie: What movie was it?
Valerie: Drumroll, please.
Valerie: Marty Supreme.
Valerie: I'm a little bit late.
Valerie: It was Marty Supreme, Christmas Day.
Valerie: Marty Supreme, Christmas Day.
Valerie: I also watched the Housemaid last night.
Valerie: Boy sucked.
Valerie: Real quick, let me talk about the housemaid just for one minute.
Valerie: Amanda Seyfried acting circles around literally every single other person in that entire movie.
Valerie: Like Sydney Sweeney, sleepyhead, white guy, big white guy, sleepy head, the gardener.
Valerie: He was handsome and all like five lines in that whole movie.
Valerie: And it's like I clocked the T of spoilers.
Valerie: I clocked the T of the white guy literally, like before the plot twist happen.
Valerie: And it's like some other people might have been like, what?
Valerie: The white man's evil.
Valerie: Like, hello.
Valerie: Okay, would not recommend, like, spending your time watching that movie unless you're like, really bored and really want to see it.
Valerie: The second half of the movie is fine.
Valerie: The first half is boring, yawning, sloppy, lazy.
Valerie: But let's actually talk about Marty supreme because I want to talk about people my age.
Valerie: Gen Z.
Valerie: He's not Gen Z, obviously, but he is like the age that Gen Z is now.
Valerie: So in the movie, he's allegedly 23.
Valerie: We all know to me Chalamet is like 30, but you know, he's saying that song on SNL that he's baby faced or whatever, so he can, I guess, kind of pass for a 23 year old in whatever time period that movie was taking place.
Valerie: I think it was supposed to be taking place in like the 80s because of the music.
Valerie: Everybody wants to rule the world.
Valerie: I can't go that low.
Valerie: But, you know, so Marty is like 23 years old, he's a young man, and he is the most impatient, most annoying, most butthole ish person I've ever seen as a main character in a movie before.
Valerie: Which is kind of cool because it's interesting to have like an unlikable main character.
Valerie: But his main issue wasn't that he was Annoying or that he was just a butthole.
Valerie: His main issue was like the lack of patience that he had for success in his life.
Valerie: He was like, I need it and I need it right this very second.
Valerie: He was doing everything and anything he could touch to become like a famous or like very rich or successful person.
Valerie: And he would not like waste a minute.
Valerie: He was 1, 2, 3, going every single second trying to make a new move.
Valerie: And I think that's something that like my generation, Gen Z, we are a little bit lazy but we also have like this sense of urgency because I'm always seeing, this is what I want to talk about.
Valerie: I always see people on like online, on Twitter, TikTok, whatever, you know, people my age, slightly older.
Valerie: I think the oldest gen Z is 25, 26.
Valerie: Ish.
Valerie: But I always see people within like from 18 to 25, 26, my age range, ish.
Valerie: I'm on the lower end, I'm still a baby.
Valerie: Okay.
Valerie: I see people my age kind of complaining online that we are so behind as a generation because we don't have houses, we don't have families of our own, we don't have, we're not married, we don't have kids, we're broke.
Valerie: We are broke.
Valerie: And that we don't have like secure or like jobs that we're kind of.
Valerie: This is called underemployment where you have a job but you're either over qualified or it's not a job that you want.
Valerie: So like you're fresh out of college and then you apply to like a job that you are qualified for now that you have your degree.
Valerie: They say no because it's like, oh, you're too young, you don't have enough experience, go kill yourself.
Valerie: Like what?
Valerie: And then you have to work at Marshalls.
Valerie: You know, like that is kind of, that's something that's really happening a lot right now in the whole country I think.
Valerie: And I have sources, I'll put them in the description.
Valerie: It's just hard for fresh college graduates to find jobs that they are now like actually qualified for with their degrees.
Valerie: And this isn't something that was happening quite as much like 10 years ago.
Valerie: It's like a really big thing right now.
Valerie: And here's the thing, housing prices are going through the freaking roof, bro.
Valerie: What the heck?
Valerie: Like housing prices and job salaries are not increasing at like a proportional rate.
Valerie: So it's really hard for people my age to make enough money to buy a house.
Valerie: A lot of people I know who don't live with their parents for actually all of them.
Valerie: They live with roommates in apartments.
Valerie: Like I don't know any freaking one who owns a house.
Valerie: I don't know a single person who owns a house.
Valerie: If, if you own a house right now, age 26 and under, you're eating it up.
Valerie: You're eating the dogs, you're eating the cats, you're eating the pets.
Valerie: Like you're eating.
Valerie: And a few more statistics.
Valerie: So 25 to 29 year olds, 29% are married right now compared to 50% in the early 90s.
Valerie: And I, I feel like this is sort of a cultural thing right now is like, you know, with the increase of like women going to college, getting our own jobs, being able to have our own money, obviously we're going to be less reliant on men and therefore on marriage.
Valerie: Which is kind of awesome.
Valerie: Like no, because real quick, sidebar.
Valerie: I always wanted to get married growing up and then one day I was like, wait, that means that I have to like share my room with a man?
Valerie: What if I have to fart?
Valerie: Like, I can't.
Valerie: I can't do that.
Valerie: I don't know it.
Valerie: We'll see.
Valerie: Anyways, back to the topic.
Valerie: So a few more statistics.
Valerie: Gen Z adults generally plan to marry later than prior generations.
Valerie: More likely to marry between 28 and 30 and 31% of Gen Z adults are living with parents because they say that they can't afford their own housing.
Valerie: Which for me, I mean I'm Hispanic so this was always my like fate but for like white people, that's crazy.
Valerie: And I see so many videos of young adults on TikTok like saying, I can't spend another day in my childhood home with my parents.
Valerie: Someone kill me now.
Valerie: Someone get like, it can get a little annoying and frustrating because you're like, oh, okay, like I live with my mom.
Valerie: I'm bound to her rules and low key.
Valerie: I don't have freedom but I'm a full grown government adult and it's kind of hard.
Valerie: It's kind of hard to do.
Valerie: And that's part of the reason that I feel like a lot of us feel like we're so behind is because we live with our parents and we are not allowed to do all the things that we would be allowed to do if we didn't live with our parents.
Valerie: And I like living with my mom.
Valerie: Like I don't have to pay for anything, but also I'm not allowed to do everything.
Valerie: And sometimes I don't know if anyone else out there Feels this.
Valerie: Sometimes it kind of starts making me.
Valerie: I start geeking.
Valerie: What is that the correct word?
Valerie: Geeking?
Valerie: Geeking.
Valerie: Like I start.
Valerie: It's almost like a claustrophobic feeling.
Valerie: Like I start feeling like I'm going to die in that.
Valerie: I think I'm gonna die in this.
Valerie: Like I.
Valerie: That song is exactly how it feels.
Valerie: That's the feeling.
Valerie: Like I feel like I'm going to die in that house.
Valerie: Never having accomplished anything in my life because I'm wasting time right now.
Valerie: And I know I shouldn't listen to the people who tell me this, but this is true.
Valerie: I have literally been told that at my age I need to like start getting married or having kids or something because it's.
Valerie: In a few years I will be past my prime.
Valerie: Mind you, I'm 21 years old.
Valerie: I just was born a few days ago.
Valerie: So I think that is kind of not true.
Valerie: But it's something that does get in my head.
Valerie: Like I do let it get to me.
Valerie: So if anyone else, woman or man or camera, person, woman, man, camera, tv has felt this, I want you to listen to this.
Valerie: Because there's a lot going on that is making our generation feel this way.
Valerie: Much like Marty Mouser.
Valerie: We might feel like if we're not actively using our God given talents because we all have them, then we're wasting our time and we're wasting our life and we're gonna regret it later.
Valerie: And with unemployment and underemployment so rampant, it's hard to like make steps towards the goals that we want to achieve in life.
Valerie: Like Marty supreme, it's such a fast paced movie.
Valerie: He runs fast, he talks fast, he's skinny.
Valerie: So that just automatically makes him more aerodynamic which makes him even faster.
Valerie: We saw him running in the street and now I just really want to talk real quick.
Valerie: There's a lot of pressure right now with us, with our generation because of like influencers and just the visibility of everyone who's successful in our age and even some of them who are younger than you.
Valerie: And that makes it even worse.
Valerie: It's like, yes, like that actress over there.
Valerie: Yes, she's younger than me, more successful, she's getting all sorts of money.
Valerie: That influencer, she's my same age, she just went to France for free on a brand sponsored trip.
Valerie: Like that is annoying to see because it's like, why am I not there?
Valerie: Why am I not doing all that?
Valerie: What am I doing wrong?
Valerie: You know, that's what we always ask ourselves.
Valerie: What are we doing wrong?
Valerie: But it's important not to compare ourselves to them or to our, like, ancestors who, like, had a house by the time they were 20.
Valerie: You know, your great grandfather, the reason he had a house at the age of 20 was because of World War II.
Valerie: He came back from World War II because America was making so many bombs and weapons and selling it and doing so well economically.
Valerie: After that Great Depression, everything just went up, up, up.
Valerie: And your great grandfather, he went the war, he suffered, he came back, all of his friends unfortunately died.
Valerie: He gets a house because the economy is good, because he can't afford it.
Valerie: That's what he had to go through.
Valerie: Luckily for us, we don't have to go through all that.
Valerie: Our situation still isn't the funnest, but at least we aren't getting bombed by other countries, you know, yet.
Valerie: Okay.
Valerie: And at any point before World War II, honey, do you think that your great, great, great grandfather was actually having the time of his 1800s?
Valerie: He was probably living in, like, no air conditioning, no fridge, short life expectancy, no tick tock, no YouTube.
Valerie: What was he, what did he do while he ate?
Valerie: When he was eating his, like, porridge or whatever.
Valerie: He couldn't watch YouTube.
Valerie: Dang, that's crazy.
Valerie: But then in the present day, there's all these influencers and you're like, well, if they're doing it, why can't I?
Valerie: Don't compare yourself to them.
Valerie: They have their talents, you have yours.
Valerie: And just because you're not doing what they're doing doesn't make you any less special than them.
Valerie: And I know what you're thinking.
Valerie: Oh, my gosh.
Valerie: Holy cope, holy rationalization.
Valerie: Okay, well, answer me this.
Valerie: Whoever your favorite creator on the Internet is or your favorite celebrity or whoever it is that you look up to, that is the person that makes you feel bad about yourself because they're the same age or the same whatever, and you're not as successful as they are.
Valerie: What makes that person more valuable than you?
Valerie: And I'm not talking about, like, money value.
Valerie: I'm not talking about net worth.
Valerie: I'm talking about just intrinsic value as a human being.
Valerie: What makes that person more valuable than you?
Valerie: Money?
Valerie: Fame?
Valerie: No, that person is not more valuable than you.
Valerie: They might be more successful, but here's why you're not as successful because you want to be like them when you should be wanting to be like you.
Valerie: You should be wanting to show everybody what makes you special.
Valerie: And that is something that people like to see.
Valerie: People like to see people be themselves and be Successful.
Valerie: That's probably why you look up to whoever it is you were just thinking about right now.
Valerie: Because they're unique and they made it work.
Valerie: Think about it, think about it a little bit.
Valerie: You know if you take an entrepreneurship class, because I'm in business school, have I said that they teach you that the most successful entrepreneurs are people who learn to think outside the box, who learn to make new rules, innovate, do new things, right?
Valerie: And then those same entrepreneurs go on to make these huge corporations and then they sell you a standard, they sell you something so that you can be just like everyone else.
Valerie: Isn't that ironic?
Valerie: Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
Valerie: And then they use unique, innovative, attention grabbing marketing campaigns to sell us things that are going to make us like everyone else so that you and your friends can all look exactly the same and talk exactly the same.
Valerie: But the dilemma of being alive is that not only is there a very natural urge to want to fit in, but there's obviously also a very natural urge sometimes to want to stand out and to do something completely your own.
Valerie: And that's what Gen Z is really longing for.
Valerie: This is a generation that is completely anti office job.
Valerie: Like I don't think I've met a single person who has said well after college I'm really excited about my job in my cubicle.
Valerie: It's something that I've always wanted to do.
Valerie: I've always wanted to work in my cubicle.
Valerie: Like nobody wants to do that in this generation.
Valerie: I don't know if that was something that people wanted to do before either.
Valerie: I don't think so.
Valerie: I mean I can't imagine somebody waking up every morning excited to go sit at a desk for eight or nine hours.
Valerie: But maybe you're out there, shout out, shouts out to you if that is your dream.
Valerie: But we're gonna get it a little bit biological right now.
Valerie: So your DNA is uniquely yours.
Valerie: Nobody else has ever had it, nobody else ever will it, even if you're a twin, right?
Valerie: And a lot of people like to say that our DNA is the main indicator of how our personality or temperament ends up being.
Valerie: But obviously that's not entirely true.
Valerie: You're also a culmination of everything that has ever happened to you and every experience you've ever had in your life.
Valerie: Like you think you just gonna tree?
Valerie: Well no.
Valerie: So it's very natural that you being the only person who has ever had your life ever and whoever will wants to live a unique life and you don't want to have the exact same life that your mom and your brother and your uncle all have.
Valerie: That makes sense.
Valerie: That's natural.
Valerie: It's hard for us to do that in this economy.
Valerie: It's hard because our economy is.
Valerie: I mean, it's structured around conformity, and it's structured around corporations and even the United States public school system.
Valerie: You know, public schools are structured in a way that prepares kids for literally, like a corporate job.
Valerie: You know, it's, sit at your desk, do your work, try not to talk, don't get distracted.
Valerie: No creativity.
Valerie: You know, it's very much like a job in a cubicle, and it prepares us kids for employment and to be employees under a corporation, under a manager, rather than to be, you know, innovators, creators, inventors, thinkers, you know, which is what actually creates progress.
Valerie: So from the moment we step into our kindergarten classrooms, we're kind of programmed to start thinking exactly like everyone else, like a hive mind.
Valerie: So it makes sense that even though college is still a lot like some high schools, it makes sense that you leave your house, you get a bit of a better view of the outside world, and you start realizing that maybe you want something a little different.
Valerie: Maybe you don't really want the job that you thought.
Valerie: Thought you always did.
Valerie: Maybe you kind of want to do your own thing.
Valerie: And this age, you know, 18 to 22ish, or in the case of Marty supreme, he's 23, you know, this sort of age, it makes sense that this is the point in time that we feel like we want to change and that maybe we've been wasting time and maybe we're kind of running out of time.
Valerie: And like Marty supreme, we are going to want to go for our dreams at full speed.
Valerie: And I'm sure this has happened to other people who have been through similar situations.
Valerie: But when you tell the older people in your life, like your parents or your counselors, your teachers, your aunts, your uncle, your grandpa, you tell them, like, I don't know, I don't really want a traditional job.
Valerie: I think I want to kind of go down the more artistic route or, you know, create my own thing.
Valerie: They give you the craziest look.
Valerie: They give you the look of like, you're an idiot.
Valerie: This is a terrible idea.
Valerie: Do a normal job.
Valerie: Get a real.
Valerie: You know, that's that thing.
Valerie: You need a real job.
Valerie: And if you go down your own path, you're gonna fail and you're gonna go broke and die of hunger, starvation, whatever.
Valerie: But I don't.
Valerie: I don't think that they're right.
Valerie: Because as a business school student, basically what I've learned a lot about like they keep pushing it and pushing it on us is that creativity is extremely valuable.
Valerie: Uniqueness and innovation are extremely valuable.
Valerie: So if you have an idea or an urge or something, you know, obviously take your time, don't rush into it like Marty Mouser because he ruined his life again and again, got a bunch of people killed, got his pregnant girlfriend shot.
Valerie: Like, don't do all that.
Valerie: You know, think it through first, but don't let other people bring you down.
Valerie: Don't let, you know other people who are more successful than you that make you feel bad about yourself.
Valerie: Don't let that bring you down.
Valerie: Don't let the other adults in your life who are older than you who have had the same job for the last 40 years who think that it's a stupid idea to carve out your own path.
Valerie: Don't let them bring you down.
Valerie: Because, you know, there is this economic pressure on this generation, Gen Z, to face, fit in, to conform, to get that office job, to answer those phone calls, to do that Microsoft Excel spreadsheet, right?
Valerie: None of us want to do that.
Valerie: So if none of us want to do it, why are we all doing it?
Valerie: What's going on?
Valerie: We need to stop.
Valerie: Because that corporation that you're applying to work at, like the office that you live near for, to answer their phone, to be a sales associate, the CEO was probably on the Bang Epstein file.
Valerie: Like, hello, read the freaking Epstein files.
Valerie: Make sure that the CEO CFO weren't on that dang island, bro.
Valerie: Hello.
Valerie: And shout out to all of those people making Epstein Island Roblox experiences.
Valerie: But seriously, don't give up.
Valerie: And even if you do have like an office job, that doesn't mean that your dreams are dead.
Valerie: You can still try to do something like, please can we not give up?
Valerie: Because we're such a smart generation.
Valerie: We really, we really are like the future, you know, Ew, that's so cringe.
Valerie: Ew.
Valerie: But like it's true.
Valerie: You know, it's like we are because like, that's just how time works.
Valerie: But to sum it up, you know, all this to say there is an economic pressure on us as a generation.
Valerie: Economic turned social.
Valerie: A pressure to conform, to fit in, to not innovate, to not create, to not progress.
Valerie: And it's causing us all to have anxiety because we all feel like we're behind.
Valerie: We just want to speed up, we just want to move.
Valerie: Like Marty Mouser from Marty Supreme.
Valerie: And really, we.
Valerie: We just need to get rid of that idea.
Valerie: The idea that everyone needs to have the exact same job where you sit in an office and work for a corporation.
Valerie: That kind of mindset is not just gonna set us back individually, but as a society.
Valerie: You know, if you keep encouraging everyone to be exactly the same, then nobody's gonna think of anything new.
Valerie: Everyone's just gonna sit at their desks and do their Excel.
Valerie: And you know what?
Valerie: It is okay to dream big, Marty Supreme, Christmas Day.
Valerie: Dream big.
Valerie: Because the universe is infinite.
Valerie: Anything is possible.
Valerie: And you never know that dream that you have, as minute as the chances might seem, the chances are still there.
Valerie: You might accomplish it.
Valerie: You never know.
Valerie: It might not be today, it might not be tomorrow.
Valerie: And that doesn't make an accomplishment any less amazing just because it didn't happen in an instant.
Valerie: And also just remember that life doesn't end when you're 30, I think.
Valerie: I mean, I haven't turned 30, but.
Valerie: But Taylor Swift is 36 and she is glowing.
Valerie: What a queen.
Valerie: And her enemy, Charli XCX, also in her 30s.
Valerie: Amazing Margot Robbie just came out with that crazy, terrible movie Wuthering Heights.
Valerie: I haven't seen it, heard it sucks.
Valerie: But she's doing well, too.
Valerie: And she's in her 30s, too, so there and then, last but not least, obviously, Marty supreme was an excellent representation of how economic pressure can really get to a person.
Valerie: And that is why I made this podcast today, because it just reminded me of, like, my own experience, and it really does tie into the economy and all of the social pressures that come with the market and marketing campaigns of, you know, the corporations that want us all to be exactly the same so they can sell us all the exact same product without customizing it and also have us as their very loyal and elite employees.
Valerie: Yes, well, yes, you have been promoted.
Valerie: But you know who I hope gets promoted real quick before I end the episode?
Valerie: Freaking Timothy Chalamet.
Valerie: I know he's itching for that Oscar and I do think he deserves it.
Valerie: I haven't seen the other movies of the other nominees in the category, but he was very good.
Valerie: So give that skinny boy that dang piece of metal.
Valerie: Give him that Oscar for once in his life.
Valerie: Dang.
Valerie: I know he want.
Valerie: He wants it so freaking bad.
Valerie: He wants that cookie so dang bad, bro.
Valerie: But anyways, yeah, thank you for listening.
Valerie: That is the episode for today, and I hope you enjoyed it.
Valerie: And, you know, dream big and I will see you.
Valerie: Well, I won't see you.
Valerie: I always say that, but you will hear me next time.
Valerie: Thank you for listening to more than you think.
Valerie: And remember to think about every piece of pop culture that you see.
Valerie: Until next time.
Valerie: Love you by.
Valerie: Sam.