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Christian homemakers need encouragement and motivation to stay the course. Homemaking and homeschooling can feel overwhelming, but they don’t have to be. If you’re a Christian mom longing for a well-ordered home, a peaceful homeschool, and a joyful heart—without the stress or burnout—you’re in the right place. Moms can be productive and peaceful when grounded in Scriptural truth.
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Speaker: welcome to the Christian
homemaking podcast, Simply Convivial.
I'm Misty Winkler, homemaker, homeschool
mom of five, grandma, and author of
the book Home is for Hospitality:
Why Your Home and Homemaking Matter.
Convivial means living life
together with joy, and that's the
kind of home atmosphere that we
want to create as Christian moms.
And I'm excited today to be
joined again by Tilly Dillehay.
Tilly has written several books for women,
including My Dear Hemlock, which we've
talked about on this podcast before.
She writes for Desiring God and
The Gospel Coalition, and is
co-host of the podcast Home Fires.
She's a pastor's wife, homeschools
her four children in a small town in
the tiniest county in Tennessee, with
21 chickens and a growing garden.
So, thank you so much for
joining me today, Tilly.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Misty.
Speaker: Well, recently, uh, it came
to my attention that The Guardian,
which is a UK-based, you know, liberal
news outlet, uh- Mm-hmm ⦠they
pic- I don't know, they're following
you on Instagram or something.
They had a whole article, uh, that
the, um- subtitle of the article
just really made me laugh out loud.
It said, uh, they were ver- very
concerned, uh, The, the subtitle was,
"A cottage industry of women are selling
courses aligned with a conservative
movement that claims feminism is
the source of women's discontent."
I'm like-
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm
⦠Speaker: horrors.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
No.
Speaker: So, uh, what was horrifying them
is your new Wife School course, which
you, um- Yes ⦠I don't know how manyâ¦
I've heardâ¦
I have a friend who took it and loved it.
Okay.
And, um,
Speaker 2: Yeah
⦠Speaker: the, you know, patriarchy, all
the scary words they were pulling out.
Mm-hmm.
And I would just love to hear
kinda the backstory of, uh,
Wife School, um, and- Yeah
what you've noticed as
you've been teaching this.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Yeah, so, um, I've been, I've been
thinking and, and podcasting a little
bit about marriage stuff for maybe a
year and a h- a year and several months.
I think me and Abigail were
talking about it on Homefires
some last spring, I remember.
And I was reading some books that
were really helpful to me, some, a
secular b- a few secular books actually
that I really liked, and, um, and
some just Christian classics, um,
An Excellent Wife by Martha Peace.
And I, I mean, there's, there's
so many great books to read.
But I was just really struck in
that season reading, um, this book
called The Empowered Wife, which is a
completely, yeah, which- I've read it.
Mm-hmm ⦠I think a lot of people
have heard of, yeah, have beenâ¦
And I think it's shocking when you're
reading that book to just, to feel
the, the biblical principles kind of
underneath what she's saying withoutâ¦
It, it almost feels like she's hit
on a lot of solutions without knowing
the why of any of them or, or at least
maybe without acknowledging the why.
It mayâ¦
I don't, I don't actually
know her background.
But, but there are definitely some
things in that book that are extremely
an- I would say anti-Christian, um,
or, or anti like the biblical model.
Some of the things for, for sure
about, um, she has no, she has
no category for like submission
at all- Right ⦠in the book.
But what's amazing is that she
arrives at a, some specifics
about what respect looks like-
Speaker 3: Yes
⦠Speaker 2: and how it feels for men
to be spoken to in certain ways.
Um, like she just really drills
down and is extremely direct and
practical, um, about why- It's in your
interest to speak and to operate a
certain way inside of the marriage.
And a lot of it, she, she, she tends
to take it in this just kind of try
not to try to manage him, and you'll
get way better results where, you know.
And she's obviously not carrying it all
the way to the point of, hey, maybe he
should be managing your home or, you know,
he should be the overseer of, of this,
um, family that you're blending together.
She also, I don't think she has kids,
so a lot of the examples in the book
are like when you can't decide where
to go out to eat tonight because
you're obviously, you're going out
to eat five or six nights a week.
Um, how do you choose a restaurant?
Like, it's very low stakes.
It feel, it feels very low
stakes as you're reading.
Um, not a lot of examples to do with
parenting, which I think is one of the
most challenging things about marriage
is parenting in this, and which is
such a high stakes thing to do that
I feel like that's where a lot of the
pressure points, at least in my, among
my friends, it, you know, that would be
where the real pressure points arise.
So anyway, so that was
happening last spring.
Um, I was doing all these interviews for
Hemlock, and I get called to go do an
interview on Alex Clark's podcast, and I
show up thinking it's just kind of another
Hemlock interview, and she, she comes up
to me before the interview and hugs me and
says, "I read this article that you wrote
for Desiring God on the contentious wife."
And it may have been a couple of
articles for Desiring God, but
it was on the contentious wife
kind of prototype in Proverbs.
And she said, "I just had a, a
breakup and I have been told I might
be this sort of prototype or I might
kinda, you know, skew this way."
That's why you're here.
That's what we're gonna
be talking about today.
So I, I had to completely reset
my expectations for what kind of
conversation we were about to have,
and then it, and then it, it ended up
being c- more, even more wife-heavy
than I even thought it would be.
So, um, so that was an enjoyable
interview and one that it was r- it
was, uh, you know, she couldn't have
known that it was right where my mind
had been kind of for the last several
months, but the Lord knew, I guess.
Um, but coming out of that interview,
because it was a different group
of people than the, the group I'm
usually writing for or, or talking to,
I get kind of inundated with emails
and messages, um, some on Instagram,
which I'm not even on at this time.
But I, I just have this sort of
overwhelming feeling of this n-
this group of women out there who
are just extremely hungry for this,
for practical, simple instruction
in how to be a respectful wife.
And, and to be demon- and, and they
want to see it demonstrated that it's
biblical and that it is in your interest
as a wife, like this will actually
make your life easier, not harder.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And, um, and it was
just a lot of like practical
questions that I was getting, and
I just, I had this really overâ¦
It was an overwhelming feeling of like,
I want to answer your emails, I want
to respond to you, but I'm not there
yet, and I'm certainly not thereâ¦
I'm not, I'm not at the point of being
ready to write a book about this stuff.
So my sister, I have a sister who
teaches vocals like on Music Row.
She has a, she has a studio on Music
Row and, and she has employees who
teach, um, like commercial voice.
And she, she's been very knowledgeable
in social media for many years.
She knows all about that stuff,
and she has a, she has a video
course probably- the sixth or
seventh video course that she's had.
So I reach out to her and she
sh- she sends me a course to take
on making video courses, and it
turns out it's very simple to do.
So I write up, I y- I take my notes
from where I'd sat and done some of
this material with ladies in my church,
um, kinda recently, and I, I grab
my notes together and put together a
six-week kinda outline and record, um,
a video course using the, using the
information my sister helped me out with.
And it's, it's pretty easy.
It takes a couple of days, and then
I'm able to put it out and have it.
And then I, I'm, from, from here
on out it's, it's just there.
It's available.
It's out there.
Um, and I proceed then to figure
out what the heck is happening on
Instagram and posting as I'm able,
you know, on Instagram about marriage
specifically, um, because I realized
this, this definitely is a group of
people and this is where they are,
and this is how they learn, you know?
Mm-hmm.
So, um, so kind of towing into that.
And I'm pretty sure, I don't, I don't
know about The Guardian article exactly,
but I suspect that the reason that they
kinda came after me was that, um, I had
a share from one of the daughters from
the, the 19 Kids and Counting show.
I don't know if you're- Oh, yeah
familiar with that show.
So one of the daughters, Jessa, um,
now Seewald, she, her husband is now a
reformed Baptist pastor, so we had conne-
connected over a, a, um, conference
that both of our husbands were gonna be
speaking at, and she very kindly took a
group of ladies in her church through Wife
School and shared about it on Instagram.
And I think sh- you know, it's
millions and millions of followers
that she has just because of this show.
So but also, and she explained this to
me later, um, you know, a lot of her
followers are there because they hate,
they love to hate on Duggars, you know?
And, and a lot- Mm-hmm ⦠of
followers are there because
they're other like-minded moms,
you know, homeschooling moms.
So- I never got a lot.
I expected a lot more negative
flak on Instagram for what I
was saying right when I began.
I just assumed there would be more,
and there wasn't a lot until, until
after her share, and that's when I
started to get some of the uglies.
So, um, so you know, it just, it just
changed, it changed the, the tone a
little bit of how the comments sound
on Instagram, but it's not a big deal.
So then the, the Guardian lady,
she emails me and says, "I'm
doing an article on several people
who have courses like yours."
Um, and-
Speaker: I think yours was
the only one she mentioned.
Speaker 2: And there were two.
There was another lady who
I think I was familiar with.
But it is true, I, in the end, I had
no idea that this article would be
so zoomed in on what I was doing.
So, um, yeah, she really made it
sound like I've got all these people
that I'm gonna be writing about.
Um, but I did do a written interview
with her, and I was adv- I was
advised, um, and kinda helped with
that process by the guys over at Canon
who've been, who've been helpful.
Um, and theâ¦
Yeah, the, the resulting article was
pretty comical, and especially as, as
held up to the, the material in our, in
our interview and the quotes that I gave
her, and then the way, the way that those
quotes were pulled and used was amazing.
I mean, I've never had an
experience like it, so it was
quite a learning thing for me.
Um, yeah.
Maybe you have, maybe you've had that
kind of experience of just being so
deliberately misunderstood when you've
really, really made an effort to, to
look somebody in the eye and say, "This
is what I mean," and for them to say, "I
don't want to understand what you mean."
Speaker: Right.
It is a very-
Speaker 2: Here's what I want
you to mean ⦠intentional.
Speaker: Right.
Yeah.
Here's what I want to tell
the world that you mean.
Speaker 2: That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
So-
Speaker: Yeah ⦠it was instructive
One quote there from it says, "But after
settling into her obedient place at home,
Dillehay said that she's noticed a sâ¦"
This is the quotes, "A sweetness felt
by both her husband and her children.
Happiness coming at the price of
shutting up and following orders."
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
She's gottenâ¦
She's, she's painted a, a
perfect portrait of my life.
It's amazing.
How is she able to capture
what life is like so well?
Only, only by really caring.
Speaker: Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Because that's the only definition
of patriarchy that they will
allow- That's right ⦠it to mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker: And so- Yeah ⦠and
you know, it is just toâ¦
I mean, to feed that,
um, that scare tactic
Speaker 2: yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's interesting
and instructive, I think, to see what
is the scary, what is the scariness in
here- Mm-hmm ⦠for, like, for someone
like this, for this single, single woman,
um, who's, who's a writer and, and for
the other women on staff who, um, you
know, help with an article like this, you
know, what, what is it that for them is
the, the absolute worst-case scenario?
And as they cannot imagine deliberate
and chosen, um, service, like they can't
imagine a life that was deliberately
chosen that involves submission of any
kind to anyone, to God or anyone else,
um, and cannot imagine a life of pouring
yourself out and, and, um, serving others
even at, even at some personal cost.
They can't imagine the joy that
might be on the other side of that.
And so the only bucket they can put that
in in their mind is, um- I guess the
bucket of loss and of- And of oppression
⦠silencing and of oppression.
Yeah.
And like a person couldn't
possibly have chosen
this with her eyes wide open and
continued to choose it when, yes, of
course other options are out there.
Like, yes, I could walk
away from my family.
Anyâ¦
Like this is America with no-fault
divorce and, you know, like there,
there are options everywhere, of course.
So why would a woman willfully choose
the life that I have unless she's
somehow been brainwashed or, um,
oppressed, I guess, on some level?
So it's just, like that's, that's the only
possible way to, um, explain what would
be happening in a home like mine or yours.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Um, I also thought it was
really, it was really funny the sort
of exploring that she did of, of the
business side of some of these things.
Like the, the other category that they
had was like the, the, the kind of
conservative boss babe, like an Erika
Kirke or a, I don't know, just- Right
some of the names that she kinda
threw in where I was like, "I
don't, I don't know these people."
Um, but, but just like, I don't know,
just it's, it's funny that- A life like
this on its own terms and for its own
sake is unimaginable to someone like
what's her name from The Guardian.
So, um, it's- it also is funny how a
lot of her interview with me, or l- at
least a lot of what she led with, had
to do with the marriage bed and with,
with sexual, um, you know, intimacy,
and, and that that was a big part
of the sort of concern that- Mm-hmm
that she led with in the article.
And, um, the amount of time that
I spent trying to explain what a
fun married sex life could be like
to this woman in our, in our email
exchange is funny now in retrospect,
because I actually thought that maybe
she was interested and you know.
And, uh, and it's just, it's funny.
It was funny to come back to the
other side and be like, nope, she
just, she just still took that first
line, um, and cut some words out
of it and used it as her headline.
Um, but just, yeah, trying to explain to
her, like, when I said, when I said that
when your husband gets used to living with
this kind of woman and he, he comes to a
point where he expects a yes, the way that
you would expect a smile from a friendly
person that you know, or would expect
a, you know, a good meal from the table
of a, of a good cook that you've, you
know, you've eaten at her house before.
Like, he expects it because it's what
he's come to experience from you.
And to take the word expect and- Yeah
⦠totally ignore everything that I just told
you and told her, and to- and then to pull
it the way that she pulled it, it justâ¦
Yeah, it's one of those eye-opening
moments where you realize, like,
they, they already wrote the article.
Mm-hmm.
They, they wrote the article
before they emailed you.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's okay.
You know?
Yeah.
That's okay.
Speaker: Yep.
Where they're using it as if it's demands.
Speaker 2: Right.
Right.
Speaker: And that's not the aroma
of the home that you're going for.
Right.
And one thing that I really like about,
um, The Empowered Wife, when she sets
it up in the introduction- Mm-hmm
and she's saying, "I'm
talking to wives only."
It's not really a whole
picture marriage book.
This is- Yeah ⦠what can
a wife do within a marriage-
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm
⦠Speaker: to actually enjoy that life
together and enjoy the marriage.
Yeah.
And she talks about how,
um- women set the tone.
Like, women can change a marriage.
Mm-hmm.
And I think so often we, what, or at least
what I see or hear often is women think,
"Well, because, you know, the husband is
the head of the home and all that- Yes
he's responsible.
Yeah.
And so I, you know, I am helpless
or he should- That's right ⦠he
should be X, Y, Z first before-
Speaker 2: That's right
⦠Speaker: I have to do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
And you can see how, like, good, you know,
good strong teaching on male leadership
and, um, and, and, like, the a- the
authority structure in a home, that you
could take that good teaching and you
could skew it off into that direction,
and I think a lot of women maybe do.
Because there's, there's a kind of
passivity- Mm ⦠um, that that can
produce if you've decided to take
it there, where you just say, "I'm
gonna dig in my heels and wait and,
and until he leads, I cannot follow.
Until he straightens up, you know,
I, I have nothing to respond to."
Basically, like, he sets the tone and,
and as long as he's kinda snippy and
irritable, that's the tune of our home.
That's it.
That's end of story, you know?
And
Speaker: it's all his
Speaker 2: fault.
And, and, and then I can go around
in my life muttering to myself
about, about him and his failings.
You know?
And, and a lot of what I mutter
to myself will be true, you know,
on, on some technical level.
It's just, it's so important that
women understand how much power they
truly have as Christian wives, um,
to pursue joy in their marriage,
and to say, "It is, it is honoring
to God for me to enjoy my husband.
How can I learn to do that?"
Um, and, and just how much movement they
can make with some pretty simple changes.
I won't say they're small,
because they're, they're not easy.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: But they're s- they are simple.
And, and, and then to, to go beyond
the empowered wife kind of rubric
and say, "Not only do I want to enjoy
my husband and to stop ki- trying to
control him and go out of my way to
manage him and manage his life, um,
but how can I invite his leadership
in a way that's not reminding him, you
know, constantly that he's not leading?"
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: But, but to let him know
how, how open and available I am to
this, this leadership and this area.
And then to do the things that are going
to make for more of the same, you know?
To, to kinda lay groundwork that's going
to make it, um, where the, where we both
learn some new, new muscles, you know?
And with, with the understanding
that you're not, you're not going to
really function well as a couple and
enjoy each other unless he is leading.
Right?
So, uh, so I know that sounds a little
different from what we were just saying.
You're not powerless w- until your
husband decides to lead in, in
whatever ways you're imagining.
Um, but you h- you have to know that
that is the goal in a way that even
The Empowered Wife lady doesn't totally
understand, that a man, a man who's
not taking any kind of ownership
in his, in his home is not fully
stepping into what God made him to be.
And it's gonna be, it's gonna be hard
for the functionality to be full and
complete and, and, you know, good
in that home until he learns that.
That is totally true.
But the ways that we try to make
that happen as wives are often s-
so counterproductive- Wow ⦠that
we're actually eating away at
the very thing we're trying to,
to, you know, produce in them.
Mm-hmm.
So, and a lot of it is just by thinking
way too much about what his fa- his,
where his failings are, you know?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So-
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Well, and even though, you know,
we might say, "Well, I want him
to lead," it is often our picture
of what we imagine that to be.
It's like, well, if he does it ourâ¦
He'll lead-
Speaker 2: That's right
our
Speaker: way.
If
Speaker 2: he would lead, if he
would lead into the things that
I'm wanting him to lead into.
In other words, do what I want him to do.
Right.
But in a leader-ly way.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker: Well, even like
a microcosm of this.
I remember at one point when my
husband took over doing the dinner
dishes when I was big pregnant and
could, like, hardly reach- Mm-hmm
the sink.
He said, "I'm gonna do this."
Mm-hmm.
You know, "Go sit down."
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Speaker: And my immediate impulse
was watching him, saying, "But
you're not doing it right."
Speaker 2: Yes.
Yeah.
That's
Speaker: right.
You have to load it.
Like, this is the right way.
Mm-hmm.
And instead of, like, letting him lead
in that case was, like, saying- Just let
Speaker 2: him do
Speaker: it
thank you.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker: Like-
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker: Maybe- Yeah ⦠even, like,
checking it out and doing, loading
it his way after that and thenâ¦
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: No, I couldâ¦
It could be that he innovates
something that's actually a better,
better way for you to do it.
Be
Speaker: open to that, right?
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
Right.
Right.
So I do think, yeah, if, if that'sâ¦
Those are the, those are the very small
things and small moments in marriage-
Speaker: Mm-hmm
⦠Speaker 2: that begin very,
very early, even, even whenâ¦
They begin even when we're, like,
courting, dating, you know, before,
before the marriage has begun.
They're a little, um, markers,
I think, of either leadership
and response or leadership from
behind and passivity and- Mm-hmm
and then irritability when the, when
the, when his, his attempt at leadership
that maybe happened and wasn't received.
Um, they're just, those kinds
of patterns, they're, they're,
they, they're very small things.
That's what we need to understand,
is it's not these big, like, where
are we gonna send the kids to school?
Are we gonna buy that house or not?
Like, those big kinds of decisions.
I think that's the, that's the place
where we think all the submission happens.
It's like, okay, there's
a tiebreaker situation.
You don't agree on something.
Submission is we let him break the tie.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And by the time you get
to those big moments, your pattern of
leadership and response has already
been set by many small moments.
So, um- It is, it is so much more of a
big deal how the courtesy and kindness
of everyday moments in the home work.
Like, how does itâ¦
What happens when he puts on a different
shirt and shorts on the, on the toddler
because he, you know, went and decided
to get them ready and get them out
the door, whatever, for some reason?
Like, how does that moment go?
Or how does that, how does it go when
he sits down and leads family worship
and it's not what you were picturing?
You know, when you were asking,
"Man, can we please start
doing more family worship?"
And then he goes and starts doing
it, and it's not what you thought
for s- for whatever reason.
Like, how does that moment go?
Um, so it's, it's all, it's all these
tiny moments throughout the day where
you can set a temperature of gratitude
and, um, and moving with him, and
even invitation to, for him to be a,
be the man, you know, in your life.
Um, to be kind of the hero in,
in your life in very small ways.
Like, he wants to do that, and
that's the thing I think The
Empowered Wife demonstrated so well,
is like a man's desire to please
his wife is actually quite strong.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she d- she demons- she,
she, she makes that so clear in the
book, and you can tell the reason why
she's having to repeat it so much is
that when you've been in an irritable
marriage for a long time, where there's
a lot of just friction, littleâ¦
And it's always little, little
thing friction, you know?
But it, it grows to the point that
you think, "This person is anti-me.
Like, this person is kind of against me.
Um, and they don't really want, he
doesn't really want my happiness."
And you don't understand that he
wants, he deeply wants your happiness.
Like, this is why you get so many
passive men, is that they're,
they're afraid of their wife's
unhappiness to an unhealthy degree.
But what he really does want
to be the hero in your life.
Like, he wants to be the dude.
He wants to be the man that you,
um, look to and are grateful for.
And the way that you em- that you power
him up is usually through gratitude.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Um, openly expressed
and demonstrated in other ways.
Like, gratitude isâ¦
I'm, that's the, the, one of the
first things I got on Instagram to
say is like, you know, you can pour
fuel in his engine or you can be the
little engine light that dings at
him all the time and ruins his day.
You know?
Yeah.
I'm monologuing.
Speaker: No, that's good.
That's good.
Um- Yeah, it is the little things,
and we can change those little things.
Mm-hmm.
Um, like, I talk often about just
making it a habit to smile at
your kids and how that changes
the tone- Yeah ⦠of your house.
Mm-hmm.
But how much more when that is your
husband too- Yeah ⦠because what
you have as a husband and wife between
you is your home that your kids-
Yes ⦠are then taking part in.
Speaker 2: Yes.
That is so important to see.
'Cause I do think as, as, as homeschool
moms or just as moms, we, we are, we're,
we're tapped into that and, and maybe we,
we're attempting it, maybe we fail on a,
on a difficult day to smile at our kids.
But, but I do feel like
we're, we're aware.
Here's a, here's a thing, I
need to be kind to my children.
But because he comes in and he's,
he's not one of the kids, I just
Speaker: think
Speaker 2: we can- He's a
little disruptive sometimes.
Heâ¦
Yeah, that's right.
Like, he- ⦠he may come in with a
different idea of what's about to happen.
Um, and he's not, he's not
cute like- ⦠the way the
little kids are, um, hopefully.
In fact, he's, he's a full-grown male
specimen of the species and he's, and
he is to be treated, um, with priority.
And so, and in that way, you pour
more functionality and more, um,
more of a feeling of safety and
security for those kids than you
can possibly imagine, especially if
you have sons, but, but any kids.
Like, they want to see that there is
warmth in the air between dad and mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so any amount of time
and effort that you spend to honor and
enjoy and prioritize your husband is a
gift that flows over onto the children.
It can't help but flow
over onto the children.
And, um, I mean, I, I say this with
the experience of being a child
of, of adult divorce, um, and itâ¦
or I should say an adult child of
divorce, um, whose parents also
remarried each other later on.
I, I now understand, I think, in a
way I didn't before, how that feeling
never goes away for your children.
Your children will root for your
marriage till the day they die.
They will care about how you
treat each other till the day they
die, even when they are out, you
know, running their own families.
Um, it's never not going to affect them.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: So all, all the relational
capital that you can build in
your marriage is capital that
you are passing to your children.
You may care about s- you
know, an inheritance for them.
Here is the inheritance that you
need to be thinking about is, is
relational capital in your marriage, so.
Speaker: Yeah.
For sure.
So where can people find Wife School?
Speaker 2: You can goâ¦
I have a website now my
brother-in-law set up for me.
It's like five little, little tabs.
Um, it's just TillyDillehay.com,
and I think it sh- it's on there.
And you can, you can go
on Instagram too now.
There's, there's ways
to find it there, so.
Speaker: Well, thank you so much, Tilly.
This has been very helpful and, um, I
hope an encouragement for women that
it matters how- Mm-hmm ⦠they treat
their husband in the little things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Smile at him today.
Thank him for something.
You won't regret it.