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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So by now, I'm sure you've heard of disease x. What is disease x? It's well, it's the next thing that's gonna probably lock us down and change our election and allow the globalist to put in the next step of their totalitarian system.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Well, maybe. So here's a recent article that came out on, the Epoch Times on their premium. What is disease x that the WHO is preparing for? Says the top says the top concern for the next two years is not conflict or climate.
Seth Holehouse:It is disinformation and misinformation says the European Commission president. So what they say here is they say global organizations are working to build a permanent globally controlled state of readiness for the coming of the heralded disease x. So speaking at the World Economic Forum seminar called preparing for disease x, the WHO director Tedros Adnan stated that in 02/2018, his organization needed to have a placeholder for the disease we don't know. He says quote, and that was when we gave the name Disease X. We were preparing for COVID like diseases and you may even call COVID the first Disease X.
Seth Holehouse:So what is disease x? We don't know yet, but they're preparing for it. They're preparing vaccines for it. Is this gonna be what's gonna be coming out during the election season? There's a lot of unknowns.
Seth Holehouse:Is it something that we should fear? I well, first off, anything that they're these psychopaths at that level of our society are orchestrating is something I don't think that we should fear, personally. I think that we should be very level headed. Now there are real diseases in the world, and, you know, we have to be concerned about them and take certain preparations, but we shouldn't be locking ourselves in our homes and and wearing these these masks and doing all this kind of stuff. But, again, we have to understand what the parameters of our of the disease x that they're talking about, because I think that it is laying the groundwork for whatever they need to do to steal another election, which is exactly what COVID the role that COVID played in 2020.
Seth Holehouse:And so joining us today is a doctor named Mike Schwartz who has been was actually has a very interesting perspective. He was very involved in a lot the COVID response type stuff. He's very outspoken about his beliefs about things. And so we're gonna be talking about what he sees as disease x, whether he's worried about it, what it could be, but also some potential pitfalls, right? Even pitfalls that are facing us, me, you watching the show, people that are more aware and awake.
Seth Holehouse:Is there potentially a this reversed scenario of the boy who cries wolf where we're like, okay, we're not gonna fall for it. But maybe what if it is something real? So anyway, folks, please enjoy this interview with doctor Mike Schwartz. Mike, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's an honor to have you here.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Seth. My my my privilege.
Seth Holehouse:So let's go ahead. There's there's a lot of COVID disease x stuff to get into. I'm seeing now COVID kind of, you know, the resurgence of COVID. You're seeing that there's now places that are saying, hey, we're gonna start wearing masks again. I'm hearing rumblings of just other things like that.
Seth Holehouse:And I I'm sure like as you know, you know, we're discussing before we started recording, it's like the information from this last pandemic is so censored and so fragmented that it's like, how do we possibly make sense of anything now? And so you're someone that was kind of in the trenches dealing with a lot of COVID type stuff. There's a lot to learn from that. So I wanna see just your perspective. But before we jump into that, just give the audience just a quick background of yourself so they can help frame this overall discussion.
Speaker 2:Sure. So I own three medical clinics, New Jersey and Florida. We have a travel clinic, one standalone in New Jersey and one in Key West at the time when COVID came out. We were the first company to do a COVID test in New Jersey, did 44,000 of them on over 19,000 patients, had four thousand plus positives. And you learn a lot when you have mass data.
Speaker 2:We have something that's a little different, something called horizontal data. That's where you test the same people every day or every week, I should say, for a couple of years. We had one police department that lasted for three years in testing on not only COVID tests, but antibody tests to go along with natural infection to go along with the vaccine. So we have a lot of data that's kind of unique. And you're right.
Speaker 2:We've been getting censored all this time, and it continues today.
Seth Holehouse:And what do you think what would you say from your perspective was one of the number one things that you saw being censored that people needed to understand about what happened with the with pandemic?
Speaker 2:It wasn't just one specific thing. You know? It it seemed like anybody who mentioned COVID or the shots or, you know, it could have been Fauci, and now I see with the book with Fauci's fiction. It seems like anytime you you you throw in wording with COVID, it immediately gets censored or those COVID information boxes pop up to tell you, wait, I don't know who these people are. They have no information.
Speaker 2:They're not practitioners. They don't do what we do. But it wasn't one specific thing. It seemed like it was anything related to COVID, they only wanted to let whatever message was coming out of the White House or you know, the the CDC out at the time.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. And so with disease x. Right? So we'll jump into that first. It's it's kind of more top of the mind because now there's all these these discussions, these rumblings of disease x.
Seth Holehouse:You've got Klaus Schwab coming out talking about disease x. You've got the, you know, Tedros and the WHO concerned about disease x. It's happens to be an election year, right, which we saw how regardless of of, you know, where anybody stands politically, you can't ignore the fact that how elections are conducted in America fundamentally changed as a result of COVID. Like, you you can't ignore that. Right?
Seth Holehouse:We we had mail in ballot. We had all this stuff that changed because of COVID. And so now here we are. It's 2024. There is a there is a scare, you know, kind of towards the fall last year of the kind of I think Alex Jones, you know, broke a story about the TSA agents talking about lockdowns and masks coming again, and people just revolted against that and end up not happening.
Seth Holehouse:But as we are in the beginning of this year looking forward, you know, I'm I'm kinda waiting for the next shoe to fall, like waiting for, okay, what's gonna happen here? What's gonna what's this gonna go crazy? And so when you hear these discussions of disease x, where does your mind go to?
Speaker 2:It brings me back to COVID. You know, I've been explaining on television for months now how they made the virus, the numbers go up with COVID and how it made it disappear, how the Biden administration made it disappear. I've been warning people that, if they start to the rumblings about something like this, watch out because, you know, it's coming. You're absolutely right. We're in an election year.
Speaker 2:They forced those mail in ballots a couple years ago, and they said any any type of talk like that might start to push us in that direction because I don't think it takes a lot of the populace to go along with something. I always wondered that where's the critical mass? Is it 50%? Is it sixty, forty? And my cohost on my show, Two Mike's Lab reminded me of Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2:He said, look, was only 3% of the population that changed the entire country. I said, I never thought of it that way. And now that people are starting to talk about this disease action, would caution people not to, that these people are, they're fear mongering. At the same time, I think you have some reasonable people talking about it in terms of, well, maybe we're unprepared the next time something comes out, which I wholeheartedly feel is true, but that's because we were so lied to and so misinformed during COVID and that information is still being censored. And if everybody would just kind of understand the basics of COVID, we would be prepared for anything, whether it's disease x, y, or z.
Speaker 2:But I you know, look. Is there gonna be another pandemic at some point? I don't know what's gonna be in my lifetime. Is there gonna be something that is, like COVID, that's not as deadly, that's gonna be exploited into a pandemic? Most likely, most likely that'll happen during an election season.
Speaker 2:So I think everybody should be on their guard, but I don't want people to be, I don't want I also don't want people to be desensitized when something does, serious does pop up because they lied so much that it really desensitized to, the the populace, of how to really take precautions and what the appropriate measures are during something like COVID or something that's potentially worse.
Seth Holehouse:And that's that's a slippery slope, and that's a dangerous part of this whole thing because there's you know, I certainly you know, I've been covering this since, you know, kind of day one of of doing the show, and I, you know, believe probably much more of the the conspiracies about it, which we've now found to be true. Right? That that it wasn't just some, you know, bat market and some, you know, Chinese guy ate a bat and got sick and coughed on his neighbor, and now the whole world shut down three weeks later. But so I I certainly, I believe that there's been a massive amount of manipulation, corruption, and not just corruption. This this evilness, right, behind a lot of these mechanisms that we've seen roll out.
Seth Holehouse:And then you start looking at the the WHO and the pandemic treaty, and you look at the loss of our freedoms, and you look at, like, just reflecting, like, this is America. How are they shutting our country down because of this virus that we can't talk about? Why are they forcing small businesses to close? Why are they arresting people? I get you know, for going on a beach that they said you can't go on because of this this mysterious disease.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, so I certainly believe there's a massive amount of manipulation, but I I agree with you. I've seen that the on the other side of that, there's also people that that I feel like they just think that it's all a lie and that there's nothing there. And even when I've done shows talking about China, because I cover China a lot, like, something has certainly been spreading over there at times where it has killed a lot of people. And so I also think that there's there are real things that are happening. And one of my worries with this overall is that I think a lot of people went through this process of COVID and think, okay, well, whatever comes next is just gonna be alive.
Seth Holehouse:My concern is that what if something real does happen? What if, like, a real Ebola, regardless of whether it comes because, you know, the the government pumped out these vaccines that caused Ebola or whether a monkey bit somebody and it got brought to a whatever whatever the reasons being, I am concerned, though, that if if there is a real a true virus that is absolutely deadly, that a lot of people will no longer actually believe it. Actually and that that that's worrying to me. Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you.
Seth Holehouse:So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at?
Seth Holehouse:So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive?
Seth Holehouse:No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
Seth Holehouse:So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
Seth Holehouse:Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver. Because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties.
Seth Holehouse:We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott.
Seth Holehouse:He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path.
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Speaker 2:Well, part of controlling the population is controlling information. Right? If we had gotten COVID right from the start and people knew how long viruses last in your system, what the incubation period was, what the difference is between isolation and quarantine, basic stuff. This is the basic, the most basic of things that the government, Fauci, Birx, Walensky at the CDC could have been disseminating to the American public and the world nonetheless to calm their fears a little bit and say, is the appropriate way to do things. We had people in masks, which was the second dumbest thing I've ever seen in my career.
Speaker 2:We do not wear masks for viruses. When you understand air fluidity particle size, you can understand why we don't do that. The vaccine or let's call it the shot, I don't wanna call it a vaccine. That's very misleading Because when you say the word vaccine, you think inoculation. You say that to a 70, 80, 90 year old person, you think polio, lifetime immunity, or hep B, ten years immunity.
Speaker 2:What we did in this exercise, and I say we, and I meant just as a society as a whole, was very misleading. And you're absolutely right. So the next thing comes along, we haven't learned a thing. We have four years to understand all this basic terminology. People refuse to either pay attention.
Speaker 2:They maybe they don't watch shows like yours or they don't read books like mine, or they're watching obviously watching the wrong channel. I could tell you what channel and how somebody votes just by walking through an airport when I see people in masks on at this point. So it's very scary to the rest of us who have been controlled by a very small segment of the population. Now look. I write in my book jokingly, but it's true, that, the average IQ in this country is a hundred.
Speaker 2:So if you think about that, half the population has an IQ of less than a hundred. Now you can see them walking around in masks. Very scary to think that they're controlling how you and I live our lives and what businesses we can go see. And a lot of folks that, friends of mine that lost their businesses or, lost months of business and had to struggle, you know, very, very much so to get back on their feet. And they're coming to people like me saying, well, how long do you think this is gonna last?
Speaker 2:And in March of twenty twenty, I remember calling a good friend of mine who was who was very nervous. His entire entertainment business was shut down. I said by by September, '6 months is all tops, and they'll figure it out. The public will figure it out. But you're right.
Speaker 2:I mean, the media control the narrative. Why they were doing that? Whether it was just an anti Trump thing. You know, he didn't wanna wear a mask, so they went against it and said, we're all whatever it was. And it's just blatantly stupid.
Speaker 2:I mean, we should be talking about the honest facts of what this thing was so that we are prepared for whatever comes our way. I get tired of hearing this story about disease X, people thinking that something's gonna be released. But then when you see some of the evidence for these things and you hear about what's going on in the deep state, your ears go up a little bit wondering if someone would do something intentionally to try to control the population or control an election. It's obvious to me it was obvious to me then that, know, a month into testing that they were exploiting this during the election of twenty twenty. It was obvious to anybody doing this for a living, but the rest of the world wasn't quite sure at that time.
Speaker 2:And, it's a shame it took almost four years for the majority to catch up to us.
Seth Holehouse:And I want to touch on that specific point of the number manipulation. Right? Because I yes. I you know, I'd see these charts, you know, know, floating around of showing the flu numbers and flu, flu, flu, and then COVID hits and it's like zero flu. Right?
Seth Holehouse:And it's like, oh, okay. And so how you you mentioned earlier on, basically, whether it was like how they made it disappear under Biden or how they probably made it, you know, kind of threw the roof under Trump. You know, what were the main mechanisms that they they had to manipulate these numbers?
Speaker 2:So the emergency order, which took our freedoms away a little bit there, the CARES Act, I should say a lot, the CARES Act and the rapid test. And it's kind of simple. If you looked at a chart and you saw the numbers, in the beginning, you saw the numbers kind of going up slowly. And of course, in the beginning, those numbers look huge on a macro scale. Those weren't the amount of cases that were out there.
Speaker 2:Those cases in the beginning were the amount of COVID cases we could catch up to because it had been out for a few months by that point and we did not have any testing supplies readily available. And I hate to get into the weeds and science y because you lose people, but this is important because when you're explaining it, you're losing. But it's very important, people don't want to understand this. We didn't have testing materials available. We started testing on March sixteenth of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2:I had to fight tooth and nail to get whatever I could because of all the supply chain issues. So whether I got five a day or 10 a day or 17 a day, it wasn't a lot. It was until the labs came up with something ingenious, what they did with themselves, they were fighting because they wanted to work. And I used boutique labs. We do not use Quest.
Speaker 2:We do not use LabCorp, so I can't speak for those giant behemoths. We use very reputable boutique labs that we've been using for years. They came up with something ingenious where they validated buccal swabs. These are the cheek swabs instead of the nasopharyngeal with the FDA because they needed something to get the samples to the lab. And they also started creating their own medium and falcon tubes.
Speaker 2:So I went from having five samples a day to having an abundance of samples all of a sudden at once. Now we can test on mass scale. When you find out when you tested everybody during COVID, we didn't realize the R naught was so high that everybody who had it would infect, you know, four to six other people. So everybody had it at this time. You didn't realize that.
Speaker 2:So the amount of samples you saw in the beginning, testing numbers you saw, that was the amount of samples we can catch up to. When you tested everybody in the country, you realized it went off the chart and you saw that everybody in the country had COVID. Now this wasn't a bad thing Because when you realize that everybody has I don't mean everybody, but a lot of the populace had it or had had it. When you realize that most people had it or had had it and weren't dying from this and weren't getting serious seriously sick from it, you realize that this wasn't as serious as what you were seeing on TV, the doom and gloom. Two things happened to change those numbers.
Speaker 2:First, the Biden administration will rapid the advent of the rapid test and the Biden administration giving free rapid tests to every household in the country. Now you know somebody in California who's getting a rapid test, who's positive on that thing, isn't calling their county saying, I need to isolate. Who do I report my case to? So those numbers don't get reported. That chart goes artificially down.
Speaker 2:Then the second thing happened, the expiration expiration of the emergency order was on, I believe, May twelfth of twenty twenty three, I believe. But those numbers then all of a sudden go way down because in the beginning when COVID started, if you remember, no symptoms, no test. You had to have a classic symptom in order to get a test, a medical necessity for a practitioner. Eighty five percent to ninety percent of my positive cases did not have a classic symptom. So now because the emergency order expired and the CARES Act no longer exists, you have to have a symptom in order to get a test at a reputable office, at a doctor's office.
Speaker 2:So no one is testing because nobody really gets symptoms from COVID. So at this point, you saw the numbers go here to here to here, just like that. It's very simple. All you gotta do it, you could do it by executive order to you know? But if you opened up, if you were to institute an emergency order right now, and this is what I would warn your listeners about, if you were to do that again, another form of the CARES Act, another emergency order where anybody at any time could get a test whenever they wanted, you will naturally see those numbers go through the roof because COVID never left.
Speaker 2:It's still out there. But most of the folks who had it and have it don't die from it. They don't even get a symptom from it. The most common symptom of COVID is a headache and it has to do with hemoglobin uptake issues. So it's a little in the weeds, but we understand the executive orders, you can see how it makes the numbers go up and disappear.
Seth Holehouse:Which is helpful to understand because they have to create something that has some sort of mechanism that they can then put on the TV screen and show people some sort of numbers, some sort of chart, and get people to then feel fear, which makes them susceptible to messaging and susceptible to accepting changes they wouldn't normally accept. Accepting, you know, things changing in their own personal life, for instance, like social distance, don't hug your grandma, etcetera. So they they had they need this this mechanism. And so as we look ahead, right, and we have this this this this kind of idea of this disease x, How do you think the population will react to it? Right?
Seth Holehouse:And this is this is kind of something I'm I'm trying to think about and understand because a lot of people that I know that, yeah, at one point were very scared of COVID, have now come to a point where they're like, yeah, the whole thing was a, you know, psychological operation, and they took like a common cold and made everyone so scared of it so they could do all these things to us. And so with where we're at right now, and this is this even if you look at, say, taking a step back and looking at just polling as an example. Right? And you look at where, you know, Trump versus Biden and and polling, because you can see it's kind of an odd, you know, cross section to look at that, like, we now have this pretty accurate overlay of who's wearing a mask and who probably voted for Joe Biden. Right?
Seth Holehouse:It's it's a strange place to be where you can look at the decisions someone made. How many boosters has a person got versus how they voted politically? There's there's probably an overlay of of that that creates these subsets of the of the population. And so as we're looking at where things are now, what you can see is that even in the polls for Trump like, I saw something recently. It was really surprising that even the younger demographics are heavily leaving leaning towards Trump.
Seth Holehouse:Like, these are the demographics, you know, it's like 30 and under that are, like, at the forefront of the the college education, education indoctrination, the school indoctrination. These are the ones being, you know, given antif materials in class, etcetera. They're still not being they're still not, you know, actually, by the mat by the larger percentage, being controlled in the way they want to. So to me, there's all these different indicators. Not to mention, you know, who's watching CNN, the numbers plummeting, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:There's always indicators showing there has been this mass awakening. There has been this large amount of people in America that are just aware of what's happening now. So with if there's some sort of disease x that they wanna bring out, say, in the next couple of months and use it as a pretext to make even more changes to the election or whatever it is, how do you think that will go over with people?
Speaker 2:There's so many layers to that, Seth, and there's so many directions we can go. And I'm glad that these kids are starting to wake up, and it's because you don't give up. And, you know, I have a show, you have a show, and we're we're and we refuse to give up. We're gonna talk about what's real and get the message out there. But there's so many directions you could go.
Speaker 2:Let let's let's hypothesize for a moment that, you know, the the the deep state, let's say, wanted to see who would comply. And all of a sudden, they release something on purpose. Well, they know they could kill everybody off who's not gonna comply now because it's more serious than COVID. And everybody else who can comply now now is in their corner. Hey.
Speaker 2:Take that to a macro scale. Let's say China decides to do that because China is a communist country. They could realistically and they they had very much success locking their citizenry down during COVID. They wanted to see how long that would last. Let's say China wanted to release something, that the rest of the world said, ah, I'm not gonna do anything about here.
Speaker 2:This is nothing. And all of a sudden, they caught a rare disease that could take them down in in in in days. The Chinese population would flourish, and the rest of the world would diminish. I mean, there's so many hypothesis you could come up with to say, if you wanted to control society or form a superpower and kill off the rest of the world, that you could go in that direction. But there's, again, it literally could go down 20 rabbit holes.
Speaker 2:I think that if we learned the truth about COVID, if we learned and understood and didn't go down these crazy rabbit holes and just understood the basics of what we went through in COVID, we would be so much more prepared for anything, whether it was And first and foremost, when it comes to medicine, we have practitioners who haven't learned a thing. We had a lot of doctors who shut their doors during COVID, but were recommending vaccines based on not information and data they had and experience they had, but on a CDC narrative that has proven to be untrue. And a lot of those doctors don't want to admit that they were wrong at this point because it's cognitive distortion. But we have a lot of folks in the populace that are cognitively distorted as well. So, you know, whether they they're still going along with the mass narrative.
Speaker 2:They're still going to get their boosters. Look. When when the shots came out, it was about seventy five percent of the populace that went and get fully vaccinated. Now now that number is down to seventeen percent. So it shows you that a lot of those folks are catching up because maybe they're watching shows like this, or maybe just in practice, they realized they got a shot and they got COVID and, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2:Look. It was always blatantly irresponsible to tell the public that if they were gonna get a shot, they were going get less sick from COVID. Because when you look at the real numbers, the numbers are exactly the same before the vaccine existed and after the vaccine existed. They haven't changed. And the only the practitioners that have that on the ground, if we had gotten that information out to the public, we could have avoided this exercise of you know, increased suicides and education curves and, you know, all these lockdowns and people losing their businesses.
Speaker 2:When I tell you how many people I watched in nursing homes have eightieth or ninetieth birthdays from afar because they were separated from their their family, Out a window, freezing cold, having a birthday cake and grandma's inside. And then grandma later died of depression or just old age. And these families were and then they couldn't go to the funerals. I mean, the the the the amount of damage we did to this society, to our society, the world society, is is a travesty. We should have been telling the truth from the beginning so that we could avoid this.
Speaker 2:And when something comes along, I am really fearful that we are on the wrong page here because people need to wake up, study what we just went through, and be prepared. Because if we're gonna be taken out by some deep state actor, we are right for it at this point.
Seth Holehouse:And and you made a really good point too in saying that it's interesting because I I've I've looked at this taking this this step back and looked at, okay, the the effects of COVID and who complied, who rushed off and got the vaccine. And you can see that it was, you know, much more, you know, liberal skewed seeing and watching people that were the first ones in line to to get the vaccine because the the the news media was jamming down the throats. The the president, you know, president Biden was tweeting about it every day and, you know, all the different mechanisms to encourage that. It makes you think, oh, okay. So so it was actually the the more conservative, the people that were more open, that were less likely to watch the mainstream media.
Seth Holehouse:Those are the ones that maybe kept safe, but it it's you made an interesting point in saying that what if what that did was set up this next stage of something where maybe something real was released. Right? Like like and I mean, truly real, like something that maybe had a, you know, a five percent mortality rate or a ten percent mortality rate, something that was that was really serious. It's almost like the boy who cried wolf in in reverse. It's like the boy who, you know, avoided the wolf and said, oh, the wolf's fake.
Seth Holehouse:And then, you know, the next time the wolf came in, the boy got eaten by the, you know, the wolf. Yeah. That's the that's an interesting way of looking at it, And it makes me wonder if maybe that is part of what's happening, and maybe there is something that China might then release intentionally. I mean, it's it's hard to say.
Speaker 2:See, I'm not a conspiracy, theorist, but I do look at the data and say, where does it lead me? Right? So I don't think somebody in the beginning said, this is the this is where the starting point is, and this is where the outcome is. I think that they change their narrative as it as it moves through. Because if you were to look at where we are right now and take advantage of that, that's exactly what I think happened with COVID.
Speaker 2:I think, know, hey. We had something going on in China. We were we were doing some research and it got out. You could see it was it was you know, it it started right there. That was ground zero.
Speaker 2:The first three people died were right from the Wuhan lab. It wasn't obvious to figure that it came out of the lab leak. Right? So we had a lot of circumstantial evidence to tell us that. But then as the narrative shifts, people take that and say, well, where's the public going?
Speaker 2:And who do I wanna manipulate? So if you wanted to manipulate a segment a segment of the population, maybe it wasn't planned, but we've kinda set ourselves up for that because you got people that still don't know the truth about how this thing works. And look. The conspiracy theorists have a lot of them have been proven true, but I don't I don't look at those as conspiracy theorists. Having the lab leak come out as a conspiracy theory, that was never really a conspiracy theory to me.
Speaker 2:It just made the most sense. Right? It was logical. And when you talk about these people who lined up for these shots, I'll just say this. It seems that conservatives always vote logically and and progressives always vote emotionally.
Speaker 2:And you can usually tell what segment of the population is gonna go which way based on logic versus emotion. So you scare enough people, they're gonna go in one direction. And if you can logically sit back for a second and think about things, you might take another route.
Seth Holehouse:That's a good point. And so as we're looking at, okay, what might be coming, you're a a practicing doctor. You treat patients regularly for all kinds of I'm
Speaker 2:a research doctor that
Seth Holehouse:owns clinics.
Speaker 2:Staff treats. I don't have an MD or a DO. I'm a research doctor, but that's the problem in this country. We didn't wanna listen to the analysts. We wanted to listen to the medical community, and the medical community was taking their directive from the CDC.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. Okay. Well, that that's even better than for my question, which is in terms of what should people do? Right? Like, should people prepare?
Seth Holehouse:Right? Because I you know, I've seen a lot of different doctors talking about various things, but not a lot are saying, you know, get into good shape. Don't be obese. Get sunlight. You know, do x y z.
Seth Holehouse:So just from your perspective and seeing all the data that you've seen, what are the what are the practical things that people should do? Because I also find that a lot of times, fear is a result of not being prepared and not feeling prepared. Whereas, you know, like before I had, you know, years worth of food storage, I feared a food shortage. Now I don't feel a fear of food shortage. Okay, I've got my own pantry, you know, got my little grocery store downstairs.
Seth Holehouse:Right? So what are the what are the practical things that people can do so that if there is something that comes out that they don't get caught off guard?
Speaker 2:It's funny you asked that about, I don't know, a couple weeks before all of the world was talking about COVID. Said to my girlfriend at the time, I said, we need to go get some food. And I was at the food store and the next day I was back and she thought I was nuts. And she's, what are you doing? I said, this COVID thing is going to blow up.
Speaker 2:And she goes, what do you mean? I said, not medically. I said, I can see it politically. So she thought I was crazy for weeks and weeks and weeks leading up to COVID, but I didn't need any toilet paper the entire time during COVID, will tell you that. So I think it's always good to prep a little bit, make sure you have But you're right, work out, eat correctly, lose weight.
Speaker 2:Weight loss is big right now. We do a lot of it in my office with semaglutide and I got people down thirty, forty, 50 pounds. They feel great. They can walk again. They can exercise again.
Speaker 2:Just being prepared healthy. You see that during something like COVID where the majority of people look, if are in the pool of population that can die in the next five years, a cold can bring you down, a flu can bring you down, COVID can bring you down. Right? I explained that from the beginning to kind of get offset people's fears from COVID. And if you are relatively healthy, you'll fight off just about anything on your own or at least the stuff that we know about that's floating around out there.
Speaker 2:So there's a there's a little balance between prepping and keeping yourself healthy. But, again, I'll go back to the knowledge portion of it. Knowledge is power. And people still if you ask somebody today the difference between isolation and quarantine, and I know that's semantics, but it means something to me. I wrote about it in the book because I got schooled by an epidemiologist when COVID first started.
Speaker 2:And he explained to me the very stark difference. And I realized to myself, we're all not on the same page with language and we're all speaking a different language, we are never ever going to get through this. So I think people need to understand how testing works. People need to understand, you know, how long a virus can stay in your system. The basic stuff that people never understood and should have been told from the start is so important.
Speaker 2:Knowledge is power. Let's analyze what we saw in COVID. We have four years of data. Let's talk about it openly. Let's and I'm glad you're having this show.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it openly. Let's analyze it so everybody's on the same page, at least the folks on our side of the aisle here, and maybe we could all stay safe. But there's a lot of people on our side that wanna go down rabbit holes. They pick something that they think discounts the entirety of COVID. COVID's very real.
Speaker 2:There's a discussion about where it came from and how deadly it was or was supposed to be and all that. There's a whole discussion there. That's another topic. But we still haven't learned and analyzed the data from what just we saw on the ground from COVID. And that is so important to people.
Speaker 2:Once we understand that in totality, we could you know, move forward for the next thing.
Seth Holehouse:And so what's your what's your outlook for next couple of years? I mean, obviously, I I I feel like that we're we're probably pretty aligned with our perspective of the world and where the country's at. Do you do you have a sense of hope and optimism? Are you greatly concerned? Where do you fall as you as you look ahead to the future?
Speaker 2:If we could if we could elect the right person in this country again in America, if we can get Trump back in office, we got a shot. But, you know, he he had so many detractors when he was in office. The first and he surrounded himself with too many swamp creatures. I think he learned his lesson. I'm hoping we get a guy like Trump in there with the with messaging of the vague.
Speaker 2:The vague's got a lot of good ideas. There's so many a lot of conservatives that look at different candidates and go, hey. Aren't we doing this? Why aren't we doing that? We we everybody always says, you know, the this country at least is a giant, you know, ship, and it takes a lot to turn it and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:We can do a lot of things in this country to bring it back to the fundamental principles and make sure we can retain that republic that Franklin thought we, you know, we may lose at one point, which I think we have. We've been giving up our freedom systematically since the day this country was founded. So in that in that sense, I'm not optimistic. I'm pessimistic because I think people have a short term memory. You know, we didn't have an income tax until 1913, but people assume now because they live in this eighty year bubble that that's just the way it's supposed to be, and that's not the way it was intended.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things we could do if we just talk about it. I'm a little pessimistic on that level, but I'm always optimistic because this country is the greatest country in the world. It's something that my my ancestors, my grandparents fought for in World War two, and I have a lot of respect for that flag and the folk the folks that fought and died for this country. So I'm optimistic in that sense that if we all stick together, we could keep that republic. It's just daunting when you have enough of the percentage of the populace that can keep that ship going in that progressive direction, it's pretty scary.
Speaker 2:It's gonna take a lot of work on our part to make sure that they don't take over and we wind up, you know, like Greece or something like that. We're we're we're in some serious trouble, and we need a lot of work to fix it.
Seth Holehouse:I couldn't agree more. So I wanna talk about your book, and, also, I wanna bring up your Rumble page while I pull up, you know, the while you're talking about your book. What's your your Rumble page? What's your account on there?
Speaker 2:Show is called two mics Live. To the number two Mikes Live with no apostrophe and we do a show.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Okay. So tell us about your book.
Speaker 2:So Fauci's fiction is not about Doctor. Fauci first and foremost. He is on the cover because he gets the brunt of he was at the podium and he gets the brunt of it for Doctor. Birx, Doctor. Walensky, everybody who was disseminating information.
Speaker 2:The book basically takes you through the basics of COVID, what a virus is, the language of a pandemic, how testing works, how the antibodies work, what we see on the vaccines. I have a follow-up, should be out in June. That's gonna be called vaccine fiction. That talks more about how the Bayer system works. What we see further in practice beyond Fauci's fiction from these vaccine related injuries that do not get reported.
Speaker 2:But the book is going to explain COVID from a to z. It is not political, but let me tell you that the data doesn't lie, and it doesn't make those folks that are on the cover look so good once you understand it.
Seth Holehouse:Makes sense. Okay. Great. And what's what's the main website people get that at again?
Speaker 2:MichaeljSchwartz.com or Fauci'sfiction.com. It's available everywhere books are sold. It is getting a lot of censorship. So the advertising portion of it's been tough, but it is available.
Seth Holehouse:Okay. And you've got a show you mentioned as well on Rumble. So I couldn't find it. I'll do a quick search again here. So just Rumble.com.
Seth Holehouse:And so it's it's two mics live.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The number two and then mikes, m I k e s without the apostrophe, live. Two mikes live.
Seth Holehouse:Okay. And what do you what's what's the what is that show?
Speaker 2:We talk about everything. It's a lot of politics. It's a lot of fun. We break down issues kinda like yourself, but it's myself, my cohost, Mike Calderis, and my wife, Kelly. We're all on the show together.
Speaker 2:We have a lot of fun. It's, we we enter you know, engage with the audience back and forth every night. We're on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays at 7PM eastern. We do it live. It's a lot of fun.
Seth Holehouse:Okay, great. Well, Mike, it's been a pleasure speaking with you. I hope that for the audience, this was helpful. I mean, love it's interesting because even within what you'd say the kind of, like, the the truth medical community or the doctors and people surrounding the, you know, the the doctor aspect, the medical aspect, there's still, you know, like, camps of people that have different beliefs. Right?
Seth Holehouse:There's the no right no virus belief. There's the the this virus belief. There's so many different segments. And I find that I find that it's helpful to speak to people across the board. At least from now.
Seth Holehouse:Obviously, I'm not not bringing on people that are, you know, recommending boosters and vaccines and just, you know, kind of putting forth the CDC's recommendations, but I just think that it's really helpful, especially for people that are on the ground just having these conversations and exploring these ideas because I just think that, like, I haven't arrived at one place where I'm like, okay, this is the absolute truth. I have a general idea of where I'm at, and I'm feeling through things. But I also know that when we arrive at this place where we're like, okay, this is the absolute truth, that sometimes that makes us susceptible to even more deception. Like, as we because I think sometimes when we when we think this is exactly how it is, we put blinders up. Because we're like, okay.
Seth Holehouse:This is this is the truth, and I'm not gonna see anything else beyond that. And that can be also very dangerous. And so it's nice speaking to people like yourself that, you know, we talked a lot before the show even started recording about different aspects of testing and everything. It like, oh, this is actually very interesting to learn that. So I I appreciate your voice, you know, in this discussion.
Speaker 2:Well, appreciate your time. Anybody who ever gives you advice on COVID, I think that the biggest question you should ask them is based on what? Ask them if they've ever had any experience with testing and treatment. And if they have, ask them if it was nineteen thousand patients because that's a lot of data. And look, we never zoned in and said, hey, this is what we think the absolute truth is.
Speaker 2:We let the data tell us what it is. The data doesn't lie. It's right in front of you. You can look at it, you could see it, and you could see the trends very easily. So that's where we went.
Speaker 2:We just wanted to get the truth out to folks about what the real numbers are. And I think that's important. If they understood it, they'd have a very different perspective on COVID.
Seth Holehouse:Great. Well, Mike, I'll make sure I put your links in the description below the video. I'll make sure we put your YouTube your Rumble channel in there. You're probably not on YouTube or censored on YouTube. See people can watch what you're doing on Rumble.
Seth Holehouse:And, yeah, thanks again for coming on. It's it's been really nice speaking with you.
Speaker 2:My pleasure, Seth. Thank you so much.
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Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got a really important and actually pretty brief discussion with Kirk Elliott about some very significant news that happened this past week as it relates to banks and the manipulation of the prices of precious metals. So enjoy this interview. Kirk, it's good to have you on as usual.
Seth Holehouse:How are you doing?
Speaker 3:I am doing awesome. It's great to see you.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you. Thank you. So we were chatting a little bit before we started recording, and you've obviously okay. We've both been talking about precious metals for quite some time. That is your it's your life.
Seth Holehouse:But there's been something very significant that just has happened as it relates to precious metals and an indicator that is tied to the manipulation of precious metal prices, which is something we've talked about. So what's going on?
Speaker 3:So first, let's talk about the manipulation because I hear this all the time. It's like, Kirk, when is manipulation going to end? Why do they keep manipulating silver? Why do they hate it so much? Right?
Speaker 3:Well, they don't hate silver, they being the big banks. So to put it into perspective, to kind of explain the backdrop of this story, a few years ago, BlackRock bought the silver ETF, SLV, from State Street. And when State Street had it, it was HSBC was the custodian of the physical silver that was basically backing up those ETF shares. So when BlackRock bought them, they dumped HSBC and said, we want JP Morgan Chase. So interesting side note, JP Morgan Chase, the year before, had got hit with a $900,000,000 fine for lying about number of ounces that they have under custodianship.
Speaker 3:It's like, what in the world? Why would they want to hire the crooks? Right? It's like, why? Well, I think BlackRock's dirty too, right?
Speaker 3:They control the world, right? So you can't have somebody that's clean and complete marriage partnership with you. They'd be unequally yoked, so to speak. So they had somebody that just as dirty JP Morgan Chase, right? And got caught with their hands in the cookie jar lying about the number of ounces.
Speaker 3:So that's what they have. Now, why does JP Morgan is the largest shorter of silver on the planet? So here's the reason why. So let's say you're a business person and you're manufacturing something. Do you want your cost of goods, the things that you need to build a product?
Speaker 3:Do you want them low or to be high? Well, you want them low, right? So it all impacts your revenue and your profits. So what do they do? Let's say BlackRock issues them an order that says, hey, we need 10,000,000 ounces of silver today.
Speaker 3:We sold all these shares. So what does Chase do? They issue naked short contracts. They don't have to own the physical metal on a naked short. They can just I mean, it's illegal for us to do that.
Speaker 3:But a big bank, they have the ability to sell something that they don't own. It's like, what what world does that make sense? Well, does when you're a big bank. So they issue naked shorts that drives the price down because it's selling pressure. Then when the price gets down, they buy all this physical silver.
Speaker 3:And then all that demand for physical silver causes the price to go up. Then they do it again. Say, okay, we're going to issue more short contracts. Boom, price goes down. They buy more physical silver.
Speaker 3:Demand causes the price to go up. This is the vicious cycle of manipulation that we've seen for decades. Right? Okay, so the basis behind manipulation is short contracts. So we've had this going on since the beginning of time.
Speaker 3:I can't remember, and I've been in this industry for twenty nine years, I can't remember a time when big banks or hedge funds have not been shorting silver or gold. And you go back to the price points in the year February, silver was $4.5 an ounce. In 2020, silver was $11.91 And maybe a year and a half ago, fifteen months ago, silver was $17.97. Today, as we record this, it's $22.5 So, dollars 4.5 to $22.5 Well, it's 500% increase. It's insane, right?
Speaker 3:It's a lot. That's over the last twenty years. Last three and a half years, eleven ninety one to $22.50. That's roughly close to 100% gain, averaging over 30% a year. Nobody's going to squawk or complain about those kind of returns.
Speaker 3:Realize that's with manipulation in the markets, which acts kind of like an anchor. What would it be without manipulation? Through the roof. Right? Which is why you see some economists like, oh, Bixweer, Bullpony, different people saying or or even USdebtclock.org says with the current money supply, silver should be over $1,100 an ounce.
Speaker 3:And they're saying silver should be in the thousands of dollars an ounce, not 25 where it is today, right? It's actually under that. Well, people, they have algorithms that actually give them those numbers. Here's where this could make sense. In a world without manipulation, silver is just a function of supply and demand and market forces, right?
Speaker 3:There's nothing else holding it down. So if we run out and Sony, Samsung, LG, Tesla are needing to buy it and there's not very much available at COMEX depositories, well, they'll offer any price necessary so they can actually finish up the production of their whatever they're building, a TV, an electric car, whatever. Right? So this is the backdrop of where we are. Well, what happened last week?
Speaker 3:Last week, the number of net short positions in silver by banks decreased by 50 in seven days. Fifty, right? So all of the short positions in silver all over the world, half that have taken decades to accumulate, they got rid of half of them in one week.
Seth Holehouse:So basically, if I'm to simplify this, a short position is me saying, hey, Kirk, I'll bet you $10 that apples are gonna be worth less money in a month from now than they are right now. That's kind of like a short position. You're you're betting on the value dropping. So all these banks that have, as you've mentioned, spent decades accumulating all these short positions on silver, which is part of what keeps the price of silver suppressed is all these short positions. You're saying that over the course of the past week that they've that half of those short positions have been pulled out.
Seth Holehouse:So would that mean that these banks are looking at silver thinking something's gonna happen and the price of silver is gonna go up and my short position will then become a losing position? Is that
Speaker 3:It's exactly what I think is gonna happen because if you have a short position and you have to cover those and silver goes up, let's say, per ounce, you just lost money hand over fist. It's not a dollar for dollar move that you lose. Short contracts are leveraged. So it's like multiplied losses. So if you have people unloading, unwinding their short positions, why?
Speaker 3:Because they think that the price is going to go up. That's the only reason you would unwind your short positions. And to
Seth Holehouse:do
Speaker 3:it in that kind of mass, 50% of all net short positions globally are gone in one week, that tells me that the big banks think that silver is going to go through the roof because they have to unwind these or else they lose money hand over fist. Multiplied losses, not just dollar for dollar losses, multiplied losses, and they can't afford that. Now, I'm not a technical trader. I'm a fundamental investor, right? So difference between fundamentals and technicals are this.
Speaker 3:Fundamentals are what cause a market to go up or down. So for example, what causes stocks and bonds to go up or down? Well, if you have raising taxes, raising interest rates, people don't spend money. They don't have enough money to spend. You have inflation, so people can't afford.
Speaker 3:Those are the fundamental forces that would cause people not to buy. When people don't buy things, profits come down, revenues come down and stock prices come down. Right? So you have the opposite like you had during the Trump and Reagan years, lowering taxes, lowering interest rates, job creation, inflation was held in check. People had a lot of money to spend and therefore the stock market boomed.
Speaker 3:Right? So these are the fundamental forces that cause something to move. It's usually legislative action of some sort. Okay, same thing with gold and silver. What causes gold and silver to move?
Speaker 3:Unsustainable debt, inflationary pressures, political conflict, geopolitical conflict. Everything that we're seeing is a propellant to move gold and silver up. So you look at that and say, fundamentally, it's there. So technical traders are people that just look at charts. They look at entry points and exit points.
Speaker 3:And they're usually like day traders. It's like every single penny counts, right? Because they're going to be in and out of a position really, really quick. So then I'm not a technical guy because I've never really known one that's actually done well. It's always the fundamental forces that drive everything.
Speaker 3:That's why I look at that. But I was talking to a technical trader friend of mine yesterday, And on the price of silver, there's this, I would call it like a harmonic convergence of price, which is a bunch of fancy algorithms, right? But it says when silver approached 22, there was this harmonic price point that said, this is actually probably the best time over the last numerous years to buy silver. Because you go up and down, up and down, up and down, and then you go down and it tests like this support level. If it goes through that, you're probably going to sink a little bit further.
Speaker 3:But what does it do at that support level? So if it starts going up, it's going to probably act like a trampoline and go through the roof. It's exactly what it did. So yesterday, it's kind of like the landscaper guy always has the worst lawn in the neighborhood because he never has time to actually deal with it, right? Because he's always dealing with somebody else's.
Speaker 3:That's how I felt yesterday. We were so busy. I saw this harmonic price point. It's like, man, silver's like close to 22. I've got to buy a bunch of silver.
Speaker 3:I ran out of time. Didn't do it. So then today I look, oh man, silver's up like $0.39 So it hit that, bounced up like a trampoline. Is it still a good value? Of course, I'm going buy some today.
Speaker 3:It's just $0.39 more than what it was yesterday when I wanted to do it, right? But here's where it hit that support line, started bouncing up. See, these are what the technical traders look at. So you've got fundamental, technical, all coming together at the same time. Wrap that around with this big bow on this present, which is short positions were cut by 50%, meaning whatever the big banks are looking at, whatever they're looking at, they see that silver is going to go through the roof.
Speaker 3:No other explanation, Seth, as why they would want to unwind 50% of their short positions. Because if they have these short positions and the price keeps going down, they make money hand over fist. But they're not keeping them. They don't think that the price of silver is going to keep going down. They think it's going to march forward.
Speaker 3:This is exciting to me. When I see these kind of things and this convergence of technical, fundamental, black swan events, things that were not foreseen, which is banks getting rid of 50% of their short positions, it's like this is like an opportune time. If you've been sitting on the sideline riding this fence, it's like, I would allocate now. I would truly just get in now because But don't be like me if I was too busy yesterday to do it, and I had to pay $0.39 more per ounce. This is one of those times where it's like, this is a great time.
Speaker 3:And whether you wait in silvers a dollar more, almost immaterial to me. Because I think this is one of those times where I think it's going to go up rapidly because the manipulation game is 50% less than it was a week ago. Right? I think that that manipulation is going away. And markets can then just move with normal market forces, supply and demand when it's needed, when it's not, what the perception is, why is it safe?
Speaker 3:People are looking at all that stuff in a world where they realize my bank isn't safe. The stock market's overvalued. We've got political conflict. We've got wars going on. We don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:We don't know what's going to happen. And so, boy, this is exciting to me, Seth, because everything that we've been talking about for close to a year now, it's like, all right, the stage is set. This is this is really positive news. The most positive news I've ever, ever seen for silver. And I've been doing this since, well, before 02/2002, I started.
Speaker 3:So it's been a long time.
Seth Holehouse:And it's interesting because we've talked about following you know, seeing what the big banks, the big families through the, you know, the private exchanges, you know, through COMEX, etcetera, what they're doing. And we've seen these trends of more and more big banks, more and more central banks, more and more sovereign banks are stocking up. They're they're buying huge amounts of precious metals, specifically gold, which, you know, silver and gold are very tied together. And so we've been following that, and and that's what it's really been is it's, you know, don't do what Jim Kramer tells you to do. Do what the Rothschilds are doing.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Do what the Vatican's doing. Do what BlackRock is doing. Right? Do what the the Federal Reserve what these these big institutions are doing that they don't tell you about on typical mainstream media.
Seth Holehouse:And so when I see this, it's it's interesting, and that does feel really positive. It's like, yeah. Again, if I you know, if if back to the original analogy, if you and I've got this, you know, look at the price of apples, and apples are $5 an apple. And I'm I'm saying, look, I've I've got a I've got all this money betting that the price of apples is gonna keep dropping and dropping or stay close to that and, you know, whatever, then I'll keep that money there. I'll keep making money.
Seth Holehouse:But if if I have this idea, this feeling, or this insight information that that there's gonna be a drought next year, and apple prices because the drought are gonna triple and go from $5 to $15, I'm gonna pull all my shorts on that apple because I'm not gonna lose all my I'm not gonna lose my shirt on that apple. So, yeah, it's really the only thing that makes sense is that I believe that the, you these the markets, price of these things, none of this is just happen chance. It's all controlled. It's manipulated. They know they know when the stock market crash is coming.
Seth Holehouse:They know when the prices are gonna go up in in precious metals. They know they're gonna come down. So this is a big indicator. So if if somebody wants to allocate in the precious metals, specifically silver at this time as we've talked about. So we've we've got a link set up GoldwithSeth.com takes you right here.
Seth Holehouse:Now this is actually you've simplified this landing page. This is great. So they they go here, what do they do?
Speaker 3:They just fill out their information. It's like, what's your name? What's your phone number? Best time to reach you? Then there's a note field.
Speaker 3:It's like, was it that Kirk and Seth talked about that caused you to want to reach out? What do you want to protect? So then that will come into our office. One of my client concierge team will call you to set up an appointment with one of our consultants where we'll dig in deep to hear your concerns, hear your fears, hear your dreams, and then strategically map out a plan for success moving forward where you can take advantage of these trends in precious metals or let them take advantage of you. We don't want that.
Speaker 3:We want to help. So you can do it that way, or you can simply call us. That's (720) 605-3900 and just say Seth sent you. Either one, whatever you prefer, call or the email form. It all comes to the same place.
Speaker 3:And then we just set you down with one of our specialists that will Our goal is to minimize your risk, maximize your return, hear your fears, and adapt to those things. Start melting them away by putting together a strategy for success moving forward. That's what we've done for decades. And God's just blessed our company. We're doing really, really well because we focus on your needs.
Speaker 3:Fantastic.
Seth Holehouse:Well, Kirk, thank you for the good news. Thank you for being here today, and I'll catch up with you again next week.
Speaker 3:It's my pleasure.