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LAZARVISION is tired-hot cultural commentary - the energy of being exhausted by everything online and still showing up sharp about it. Hosted by Lazar, with guests who are smart, funny, and willing to go, well, wherever. Episodes wander through culture, ambition, identity, status, taste - or lack thereof - and the general chaos of being a person in these unprecedented times. Too smart for influencer nonsense, too impatient for academic throat-clearing, too self-aware to preach. New episodes often.
Everyone should do whatever they want.
This is LAZARVISION, and
this is just how I see it.
So games, games, games,
indeed play a video game.
I do think of video games.
I think well at least.
People our age.
I feel like that is kind of the
quintessential, like not only the
video game, but like the kind of like
boy playing the video game as well.
Oh, like a gamer, at least for me.
Oh, the gamer, gamer boys.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was a gamer boy is
what I kind of envision.
And if ever Lne was a little bit
older when she wrote that completely,
it would be a different Completely.
Yeah, no, exactly.
But now I feel like everyone.
Like playing games on mobile and in the
airport you have people who are like
riding people, children, kiddos, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Technically people, technically
also people, people people, um, who
are riding their suitcases because
they're, their wee little legs are,
you know, it's like too far a distance.
Oh.
But at the same time.
On the switch, like on the tablet.
Literally.
Wait, how were they literal?
Literally gaming.
Where are they?
Who is directing?
The parents will drag them.
Oh, drag them.
Yeah.
While they're riding
the suitcase Bareback.
And they're literally, they're
literally game, you know,
like they're, they're gaming.
The kids are gaming.
Yeah.
While completely writing the,
writing the suitcase completely
writing the away bag completely.
And completely.
That is insane.
And I just think it's one example
of like, the kids are like,
the kids are not all right.
No, no.
The, the, the gaming.
And that's why I just feel like
the gaming is like, it's 24 7.
Like it's not just the,
like Nintendo 64 now.
It's, it's the, it's everywhere.
iPhone.
It's the Android, it's, it's the
Androids, the iPhone is the, it's
the Amazon tablet, it's the whatever.
And they just like, it's my Amazon Alexa.
No, Alexa.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's the back of the TV or
the TV on the, on the plane.
You know when you get that
bored and you're like, sure.
Tetris, you know exactly why not?
Like, I've never been good at solitaire.
You're like watching someone do
like snakes and ladders across the
way and you're like completely,
completely, completely, completely.
Yeah.
Do you remember back in the day when,
I dunno if this was a No, it was a game
where you could challenge a specific seat.
Oh no.
You used to be able to DM.
Individual seats on airplanes.
Like, I know my friend is in 16 f and
you could type like, and you could
challenge someone to chess checkers
or just send them literal dms.
Stop honestly at 30,000 feet.
Bring it back.
Hey, bring it back.
Hey.
I mean, comradery.
I mean, it's old as
camaraderie in the skies.
The friendly skies.
The fri Well, yeah.
Or you know, like the borderline
stalker skies, but, well, there's that.
I guess it does lean into that territory.
It, it does, it does.
No, I've never done that.
And maybe part of me is like,
have I experienced an airport?
I'm learning about kids
on suitcases switching.
That wasn't on the docket, but that was
gonna be my, I was like, have you been?
I don't have I recently, I
don't know, like I am I not
just paying attention to things.
Um, you know what I'm doing?
Speaking of games.
My Duolingo Duing duo.
My duo.
My duo.
Let's talk about that.
What a phenomena, phenomena.
And also, I mean, the social
presence cannot be denied.
No.
True.
They're doing something right
and they keep doing something.
Right.
It's true.
Which is they've been
doing it right though.
Shocking.
The person who, what is her name?
Zaria, I think is her name.
Mm.
Who they hired when she was a kiddo.
Mm.
Out of, I'm not sure where is
she left now for somewhere else.
Okay.
But like Loki High key,
when you just make Duolingo.
A thing like, just like a verb.
Yeah.
A Duolingo.
No, true.
Yeah.
When you make something a
verb, when you make Kleenex.
Kleenex.
Q-tip.
Q-tip, Q-tip.
Q-tip.
You have options.
And she did.
That's a really good point.
Yeah.
I'm assuming she went to school here.
No.
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
She was brought in.
She was brought in.
Wow.
Interesting.
It, it really, I mean, she was
there for You can't deny that.
No, a hundred percent not.
There we go.
She was there for, right.
Sorry, one more time.
Giving Zaria her flowers.
Yes.
Zaria.
If you're watching this.
Yeah.
We know it was you, but Yeah,
I mean that's just, yeah, wild.
And you could argue maybe that it was
gonna take off anyway, but certainly.
Mm-hmm.
Now they're like, set the standard
for how to make things go viral.
Maybe not from a social perspective.
I guess everyone was using it because
it was like the way to learn a
language, which is arguable is is it?
Well, as someone who has spent, allegedly.
Allegedly, yeah.
I'm no masters of education
over here kind of.
Right.
But I am waiting for the day when,
'cause Duolingo is like a game.
There's like hearts or whatever.
I play chess all the time.
You do the Duolingo chess all of the time.
Really?
I'm getting well.
Oh, grant Master, I'm gonna take it back.
I'm gonna take it back.
Oh, the Queen's campaign.
So, yeah, but here we go.
Me challenging 16.
Uh, 16 F let's go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, no, but I'm like decently.
I don't know how the, how
you even like measure it.
Like I've completed, I don't know,
what do you call the lessons?
Like the not lessons, the, the chapters
or whatever they are, you know,
how big the end the units, units.
Units.
The units, um mm-hmm.
And.
Yeah, so I mean, I've learned
that I feel like I've actually
done a better job retaining the
chest than I have anything else.
Like a language y.
Yeah.
By anything else, I mean the reason
the app was established, right?
Spanish, right, right.
German, right.
French, right.
Name another language.
I can't, but Africon, Mandarin.
Yeah.
I don't know if they do Africons.
I've completed a few dingo courses.
Not just, what do you mean completed?
Like I've completed?
Well, I mean, technically you quote
never completed how you Duolingo.
You get to the point where it just goes,
okay, now review everything every day.
Really?
Yeah.
And it's like.
No, I don't wanna do that.
Well, now that's not a game anymore.
Now that's, no, now it's life.
Now.
Now that's life.
Now.
Now that's a lesson.
Yeah.
You know, like now we're like, now
I'm literally back in the classroom.
I thought the whole reason was we
were getting out of the classroom.
That was the whole point.
Yes, yes, yes.
Now I'm stuck in the classroom, so I
said, no, I, I have completed this.
Done.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Only one it was cattle on.
And don't ask me to speak it.
We won't.
Yeah.
But well stay tuned.
Yeah.
I just, it's.
It isn't life a game
though, in its own way?
Yeah.
It feels like it sometimes feels like
it, but it's, it is like, it's not
unlimited lives, but I definitely
have more than one because like baby,
I've fallen into the lava like boo.
Oh, okay.
It does hurt.
Mm-hmm.
Now board games.
Okay.
Okay.
Old school.
I'm talking like clue the, the OGs what?
Like Hasbro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, okay.
Old school Monopoly.
Like old school Clue.
Old school.
Game of life.
Mm.
They used to have kind of nice, like
hefty pieces and like the game of life
used to have those like white, like the
ramps, like the, you have like skirt.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like the little bridge.
Yeah.
And like the dial was all kind of,
it wasn't like expensive, but you
literally had to break it apart from the.
Like when you first opened it, it
was like in a plastic mold almost,
and you had to like snap it off.
Oh my, yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Now the like 1800 little
people you had to snap off?
Yes.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
Like blue for boys, pink for girls.
For girls, yeah.
Um, how that did not age well.
Oh no.
Now it's all flat.
It is all flat.
It's all flat.
Flat chested, game of life flat.
Not the acup game of life.
Truly though, that's so upsetting.
Truly.
And it's just like seriously, like
the game is literally cardboard.
It probably costs $4 to make.
Yeah.
And so like, could we just not have
just kept the little, like the shrubbery
and stuff that's like kind of makes it.
Five come to life.
Yeah.
Come game of life.
Coming to life literally
before your eyes, literally.
I couldn't say I was like ever.
Very good.
I also, now that I feel like,
I mean, what was the point of
the game of life to retire at?
What was it called?
Something mansion Acres.
Well, there were
different retiree options.
Well, which from a young age
made me really stressed about
my current retirement options.
Well, now that I know that
everyone's just on Medicare.
Oh, yeah.
Like now that I know that
there's being a billionaire.
One and barely being able to
afford your healthcare option two.
I'm like, I'm not stressed.
No.
Whoa.
No, I mean that is so far from now.
No, that's what I'm, well, no, sorry.
I actually meant the opposite where
I'm saying like, oh, it's close.
Billionaire status is unattainable
and I'm gonna be able to barely
pay my bills anyway, so why stress?
No, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Near far, wherever you are.
I'm, I know that I am perfectly unready.
Definitely.
So let's give her, give her a spin.
Give another spin.
Yeah.
Hope for a 10.
Hope for a 10.
The stock market when you could
play the stock market Well, yeah.
Wasn't that the bit where you like
had the little, you got stocks?
Mm-hmm.
And then like, depending on
where you decided to retire,
were they physical stocks?
They were, were, they were like
little like bricks and you, like they
were because it was like invented
the airplane or some dumb like that.
Mm-hmm.
And then it was like $10,000.
Totally.
Which.
I don't know how retirement works,
but I don't think it works like that.
Yeah, a hundred percent I, yeah.
Game of life.
Unfortunately, the realism could,
now that I understand it was not,
wasn't quite there, but it felt real.
Although there was that one point
where you could change careers.
Oh my God, that feels real night school.
Yeah.
Literally.
Literally.
Like should I become a doctor
and go to night school?
With my eight kids in the car.
No, literally when you used to have
like so many kids you have like, you
like shoving the plastic in the car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like now they have the pet version.
I'm like, what?
You know why they have the pet version?
No one could afford to have kids.
Dinks.
D, double income.
No kids.
Dinks.
Wait, but like four dogs in back.
Yeah.
Wait, is that a thing?
Really?
Pet version, I swear.
Yeah.
Is it just dogs?
Uh, no dogs.
Cats.
I think hamsters.
I know, right?
It's still discriminatory,
but like, you know, still not
aging well, the pet binary.
Yeah.
Yes, yes, yes.
No.
Oh, I can't, speaking of old school
games that aren't the same anymore Clue.
Oh.
Which we have firsthand experience on.
Firsthand.
Did we play back in the day
when we were much younger back
in oh seven, back a couple?
Yes.
Anyway.
Probably 2K 14.
2K 14 for sure.
We went and bought Clue to Play.
Oh.
And then we were.
Upset because the whole
game is different now.
Oh, okay.
So that's what I'm talking about.
So we, this did actually happen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was, yeah.
Yeah.
Not a real life experience.
Yeah.
Well, 'cause remember not to just
really go into like board game.
I'm not that girl, but
in this moment I am.
Yeah.
Clue.
Used to come with, and
maybe it still does.
I actually have some people in my
life that are clue experts, so they
will drag me if this is incorrect.
Oh my gosh.
Just one.
But she will drag me if this is not right.
Hey, it used to come with a
confidential manila envelope.
Indeed, it did.
And it said you knew because
it said confidential.
Mm-hmm.
I went right in the middle.
Right in the middle?
Mm-hmm.
Stamp.
I don't know that it
comes with that anymore.
I think it's just like you, like just
pull the cards and like maybe it, maybe
it's just like a little paper thing.
I don't know.
It's just like not.
I just know it's not the same.
I know that the pieces are not the same.
Upsetting the board.
I think they've made it more
like less old money, kind of.
It's giving pg, I think, don't they
like, isn't like Miss Scarlet's
like not a hooker anymore?
Mrs.
White, you mean?
No.
Well, I mean, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Um, no, I, that I never picked
up on that, but I It could be No.
And you, I think that's
what it is for sure.
Why do we, why are we
censoring a game about murder?
T That's a very good point.
Why?
He ends up dead every time anyway.
He, he's dead every time that
That's the beginning of the game.
Yeah, that's the beginning of the game.
It is.
I just feel like it used to be
like the billiards room and now
it's like your shared home office.
Yeah.
And it's like, no, not
the work from home space.
The, the space you bought that treadmill
in that you're never gonna use.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's so real.
The conservatory.
I don't think that's there anymore.
Oh, that's not there.
No, no, no.
Nos like hydroponic hydro like we,
herbs, herbs, hydroponic herbs.
Stop.
Well, now you know, it would
be, now it would be like.
Different units in buildings
that are dorms for adults.
Well, that's the, that's
the private Airbnb.
That's the private Airbnb.
That's the private Airbnb.
Airbnb.
Mm-hmm.
The study that's a private Airbnb now.
A hundred percent.
Mm-hmm.
It's like, no, no, no, but like you
have to have the keypad on the door
that the host will text you 10 minutes
before you're supposed to check in.
Right.
And there is, and make sure you're out
by 11:00 AM the cleaners will be coming.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But don't forget, there's also
those secret passageways in some of
'em, and you know, the Airbnb room.
Absolutely this, that one weird
locked room, that door, you're like,
I don't know what's behind there,
but there's something behind there.
So true.
It was like, and it's
to the hydroponics room.
It was right.
It was like from the kitchen to the
conservatory I think was one of them.
I don't know that the og,
no, I think it was Kitchen to
whoever Preface Plum started.
Hmm?
The library.
Oh, right.
I mean the Secret Passage, it
didn't really occur to me well,
because I think it's about like
the setting where it's like.
You believe in an old money mansion?
Mm-hmm.
There to be secret passageways,
like that just seems intuitive.
It's like, and yes.
And then the, the builder had some weird
fetish and he built tunnels in the walls.
Check, check, check, check out.
Makes sense to me.
I mean, like, I don't understand.
That makes sense, but I think as
soon as you make it right, like a
new money affair, it's kind of like.
R now it's actually extremely weird.
No.
Yeah.
In a new build.
Yeah.
No.
To have this in and
it's like, right, it is.
The Airbnb host spying
at you in the shower.
Mm-hmm.
In the kitchen.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
In the hydroponics room.
It's like this is now ending up
on the dark web and that makes
it, it really weird that that's
where, that's where it changes.
That's where the game really changes.
That's what I'm saying.
And like, right.
And that's what's actually
the game of life again.
And now it's actually getting, we
made a pg and in doing so, we've
actually made it far too dangerous.
Far too real.
Far too.
Allegedly, you know, a felony?
Yes.
No.
Yes.
A lot of allegations.
Law.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, my privacy law.
And this, and this is where I
think maybe in summation, where's
the video game begin and end.
I think we're getting to a point
where it's unclear at best,
and that's why I play the sims.
Oh, that's Enter sims.
Enter the sims.
No, you're right.
Where does it start and where does it end?
I mean, like I bring my
phone with me everywhere.
Everywhere.
I think you could argue even
the comment section on socials,
like, is that not kind of a game?
Like there's like inside jokes
and commentary and like mm-hmm.
I think that's kind of a get
Twitter first kind of a game.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's, it is all a game in its own way.
Anything can be a game
if you make it a game.
So true in the sense that
you're always playing yourself.
You hate to hear it.
What else was on the docket?
Let's see.
I was gonna try to smoothly
transition, but no eyes.
Oh.
What did you wanna talk about with eyes?
Oh, so much.
Okay.
Rods and cones.
Rods and cones.
Right, right, right.
Why do I feel like I'm
about to learn something?
I, oh, lower your expectations.
Oh, good, good.
I mean, as someone who.
I studied a lot of biology, a lot of
cognitive science, a lot of physiology.
A lot of psychology.
You would think I would know a lot
about eyes, but what I do know is
that mine just be dry all the time.
Oh, okay.
But rods and cones, where it's
like cones help you see color
rods are black and white.
Oh.
If you're like colorblind, it's
because your cones are supposed to
be like red, green, blue, but you
only have two of those or something.
So like it.
You can't see.
Oh, like the red green thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so like, you can't see those color.
So like, I know some, some things,
one thing I learned recently is that
there's, now, what is it called?
There's now like a, it's like phone
disease eyes where it's literally
like phone, computer vision syndrome.
CVS.
No.
And that checks out.
Stop.
And another one is called, this is
why, you know, they're making it up.
This is why, you know, it's a game.
It's all made up.
Digital eye strain, DES, or it seems
like you can use these interchangeably.
It makes you wonder
why you need two words.
Or computer vision syndrome, CVS, dry
eyes, headaches, blur vision, neck pain
from prolonged screen use as I like hunch.
I'm like, yeah, prolonged screen use
blinking glare, focusing on small screens.
I'm like, mm-hmm.
Wait, this might have happened to me.
Check all the above.
This might have happened to me.
Happened to, what do you mean?
When I was working a
temp gig at university.
Mm-hmm.
Um, to camera.
Yeah.
To cam I.
Had a moment in the summer where I like,
could not look at my computer screen.
Oh my God.
Because I was like going through
a ton of like things, small finite
details and data on a screen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like all day for,
oh, more than a week.
And it got to a point where I
literally had to turn with the
brightness down all the way to the Wow.
To the point where I could barely Dark.
Dark mode.
Dark mode.
Wow.
And wear glasses.
Huh?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's another thing.
Maybe this was CVS.
It could have been CVS, it.
They walk among us cv sers.
You don't even know.
I mean, do they walk?
Can they see, can they
Right, can they, right.
They're fumbling around us, right?
They're the ones with the sticks.
No, no, no.
I think that everyone has like dry
eyes, like everyone's gonna be.
Isn't there some like
prediction or whatever?
I don't know.
The, the like, probably, yeah, probably.
What's that guy?
Zoran, the one who like
predicts your future.
The guy with like the ball.
I was like, mom.
Donny Zoe.
No, the guy, the guy in the box.
Um, at the, the Day of Busters.
Yeah.
Zan.
Zan.
I think you're right.
I, oh, there's probably a prediction.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That no one's gonna be able to see
in the future because everyone's
gonna have, I guess C-V-S-C-V-S
is gonna be what does us in.
And so it's like we're not
gonna be able to see close up.
We're only gonna be able to
see far away 'cause everyone's
vision's gonna be so bad.
CVS didn't be in when they
stopped smoke selling cigarettes.
Do you remember that?
I do.
What a time to be alive when CVS said
for health, and everyone was like, bad.
Yeah, no, that was a weird time.
I, I come to the pharmacy.
Four cigarettes.
Yeah.
Two, well, 2% milk because
I could drink it back then.
Cigarettes?
No, I'm lactose intolerant.
I'm not nicotine intolerant.
No, no, certainly not.
Come on.
Certainly not.
Certainly not.
Yeah.
Wow.
I can't believe I'm learning about this.
I know, I know.
I know.
So it's actually I, until
it happens to you, honestly.
Yeah.
But it also makes me think like had
you hit your head, like maybe you had a
concussion also, how iconic that you and
just like capitalistic that you were like.
Like, you wouldn't, you weren't just
like, Hey, like I literally cannot see,
you said brightness down, glasses on.
Yeah.
Like, wow, what a, a little good little
consumer, good little like click clacker.
You are.
Yeah.
No, I, I did what I had to do for
the office, for the, for the office.
The office.
My heart was in the work.
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
My eyes were closed
because they hurt so much.
And then I found out, get this gag
I went to, 'cause this was after I'd
gotten back from living in Europe.
I went to the eye doctor and the
woman was like, these, this contact
technology on your literal eyeballs is
so old they don't sell this anymore.
It's like contact technology.
Yeah.
Ct.
The C, the ct.
Um.
My CT was so old.
It was like plastic.
My contacts were like literal plastic.
Oh, the hard ones.
Yeah.
Oh.
She was like, no, I would never
give these to anybody anymore.
Wow.
And she gave me the silicone ones.
Love silicone.
It has love.
Okay.
I did wanna bring this up as well.
The glasses verse contacts.
Wow.
Let's talk about it.
So like we're, because we are, we are
filming this Here're on LAZARVISION.
You're on LAZARVISION.
Okay.
That seemed to be I That was the obvious
tie in for the eyes topic regardless.
Oh, right.
We made it event.
It's okay.
I'm not wearing my glasses, but contacts
bother my eyes regardless of the ct.
Okay.
Contact technology.
Yes.
My eyes always hurt and they always
get dry, but I am wearing them in
this moment and as soon as we are
done with this, I will take them off.
Oh, you do wear your glasses a lot.
Always.
I don't put con, I only actually what I
used to do, this is not advice search.
A general warning.
I should, yeah.
I think if we just started every,
if, if not clear, this is not advice,
it's not clear by everything we've
already stated about video games
and, you know, murder and, mm-hmm.
Keeping Tommy and everything else.
Not advice.
I used to wear my contacts so infrequently
and the CT changed so often that every
time I went for, to get my eyes examined,
I would do this bit where I'd be like.
Oh my gosh.
Like, I forget which context
you gave me last time.
Like, do you have any samples?
And then it'd be like,
yeah, like this bad.
Try like, try this, try that.
Like let me know which
one you like better.
And they would give me like, let's say.
10 or 12.
Oh my God.
And then their dailies.
But I would just keep them in a
thing I would like, it would be fine.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I've used a daily contact
for months at a time and you know, my
eyes are, well, my eyes hurt all the
time, so actually not, not advice.
I feel like we're processing this in real.
And then I would go back a year later, be
like, wait, I forget which one I liked.
And they're like, no, it's actually
okay because there's new ct.
Here's 10 more.
Here's 10 more, and then maybe just
repeat the process all over again.
Wild.
Wild.
I know, I feel like I don't
know anything about contacts
because I got them in Spain.
Makes sense.
Like I got the spiel, but like I was
so stressed about, about having to
get them in and out of my eyes that I
was not paying attention to the spiel.
You know what I mean?
Oh.
For some reason when I
go to the eye doctor.
There's Mm.
Something about that place.
Barrel.
My brain just melts.
I don't know if it's, I don't know.
I think it's maybe like that tree you
have to look at or there's like the
air balloon or there's something, the
tree, you know what I'm talking about?
There's like a park scene.
Oh, little house or prairie.
Yeah, yeah.
Little.
It's like, and it's
like, how little is it?
Can you see the house?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're puffing.
That's not that air in that.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Something about being in that room.
My brain, Mel, like they're talking at me.
They're talking at me.
They're talking at me, they're talking.
I retain even less than
normal is my point.
So they could be telling me any, I
mean like they're reading the notes
and they're like, last time you
were here, you said that this one
felt like this, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh my God.
Right?
Because we've already done this.
We've already had this conversation.
You've already given me that type
before I just, my mind goes blank.
Yeah.
So I would just say.
I mean, you speak fluent Spanish, but
so no language barrier I guess is,
it's like contact technology on your
eyes, but like no barrier between you
and the person giving you the contact.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, my point, I don't think
it's you, it's my point.
Okay.
Thank you.
It might be me, it's might be us.
I don't know, but I'm just
saying it might be the system.
It might be the system.
Mm-hmm.
No, that's a good point though.
It is very confusing.
This was also like not to trigger
warning everybody, COVID times.
Oof.
So I would walk in, you know, hand
sanitize and they'd be like, you
actually need to wash your hands
because you're about to put your
eyes in your eyes, in your like
fingers in your hand and your eyes.
Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, oh no.
Of course, of course, of course.
The other gag was that they were
obsessed with my eyes at that eye
doctor, because, tell me more.
I'm not Spanish and I have not brown eyes.
No espanol.
Yeah.
Surprise.
I'm not Spanish says the pole.
Yeah.
Like hello.
And the woman, because you know how they
like take a picture of your eyeball and
then they like put up on the screen.
They're like, here's they are.
I, they they know to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This woman would like lose herself.
Oh.
In like, the fact she was
like, your eyes are gorgeous.
And I'd be like, good off, you
know, like, okay, now what?
And she would just like sta a
little too long and be like,
they're just so beautiful.
And I was like, I don't understand.
Like you look at eyes all the time.
Right.
And then I realized she's looking
at brown eyes all the time.
Fascinating.
Yeah.
And I looked at them on the screen
with her and I had a moment very,
it was very like Fantasia vibe
where I was like, this is beautiful.
No, okay.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, but the Fantasia vibe stop.
This was like the Hubble
telescope was right there with us.
No, literally.
Literally.
I was like, wow.
We are made of du.
But no, the like stratification,
like when you see it.
It is beautiful, I guess is the point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, I do get it.
And maybe you lose those details
when it's on darker eyes.
I don't know.
Possibly.
It also could have just been the fact that
she was just, it was different for her.
Maybe she just wanted more time with you.
Honestly.
Maybe she did, had a good time.
Her brother didn't like him as much.
They were in together.
It was, it was a sibling.
Oh, a sibling situation.
Yeah.
It was a front, it felt
like it, yeah, because.
It was cheap.
They would fix my glasses for free.
Hmm.
Sorry.
Anyway, moving on.
Well actually, okay, moving on.
But like there is.
One other topic, well, not another
topic, but just on fronts, on
things that are definitely fronts.
Oh, there's this Thai place that I
get takeout from all of the time.
Okay.
Can you imagine if it wasn't
Thai that you were getting there?
You were like, yeah, there's
this Thai place where I like just
get burgers and french fries.
No.
Literally like they only
serve, I can't, I can't.
I buy lofas from this place.
Just mozzarella steak.
Every day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Called Ty King.
It's super weird.
No, but I have to park.
There's no parking anywhere in the city.
Any city.
Mm.
Topic for a different day.
And there I have to park
next to a pizza shop.
Okay.
Well that's where they're gonna know
what's from No, this pizza shop smells
more like a pizza shop than any smell you
have ever perceived in your entire life.
Okay, this is like capital P, capital
S, pizza shop scent that is being
blasted outta this huge fan onto the
sidewalk, and it makes you feel like
you have never experienced the smell
of pizza before in your entire life.
That's how strong this pizza scent is to
the point that I'm like, you know, like
when you go into a hotel and they're like,
they got the scent a little too strong.
Hmm.
It feels like that P pizza fired.
But anyway, that's, but it's so Petey
that I'm like, this has to be fabricated.
You know?
When it's so good.
It has to be fake.
Oh, well it's not delivery,
it's theo in life.
No, exactly.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Some marketing genius that's actually
already thought of that Zuno.
I, and I've never, always said,
weirdly run into the, the liver.
Okay.
Are we like onto something?
Uh, you have the clue me in the pizza.
The pizza delivery drivers, uhhuh always
have those, like the cover, you know, like
there's the thermo, like the, the Yeah.
Slap it.
You know, the Peter's out here.
I told them not to do anything.
I told them not to hit
the mics, the carriers.
Oh yeah.
It's like what Taylor Swift was,
was hiding for anywhere between that
six month to six year period where
like we didn't, no one saw her.
It was determined that she was literally
hiding in suitcases, hiding in speaker.
You don't know about this.
What the f are we talking about?
Now we're talking about how I think that
they could be hiding quite literally
anything in the pizza delivery bags.
Okay.
Much like Taylor, Allison Swift
hiding herself inside various
boxes like a contortionist.
She was doing that.
She, well, allegedly.
Allegedly, right?
She was allegedly, well, allegedly
because her legs were, I mean,
she was Yeah, contortion, right.
Correct.
I have, I really didn't wake up
today thinking I was gonna learn so
much today, but, um, no, I agree.
But that's what you get
here, so, so, so eyes.
Wow.
Part of me does want one
of those pizza sheaths.
Tell me more.
Wait, wait, wait.
The sheath, like the delivery thing?
Yeah.
I feel like it could be
useful to keep things warm.
I had one.
How did you steal that?
Because I'm assuming you stole it.
We are led to those.
That helped us most to grow.
Wow.
And sometimes that's, that's gorgeous.
And sometimes it's a pizza box,
sometimes it's a traffic cone.
Like Men at work sign.
No.
Yeah.
It's hard to say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep, yep.
I once stole a part of the sign from
like the Madrid metro's, just like
chilling on the side of the street.
The practical end to this is, yeah.
Yeah.
Using your eyes.
Oh, in the game of life to.
No, I'm not.
This feels like improv now.
No, no, no.
We're not.
Yes, yes and no.
I just think, is there
a way to tie it all in?
No.
No.
The, the, the, the end of this
is simply, I do not prefer
infrastructure as interior design.