Lunch with the Clydesdale - I Have Found the "Real" Road to the Games Series!

Every day we take a step back from the work day to get a break and hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports and Entertainment and more specifically the CrossFit Space.  Today we talk about getting back after a quick trop to PA, clearing up some of the statements from the weekend, and I have finally found the "Real" Road to the Games.  Plus whatever you want to talk about.

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what's going on everybody it

is lunchtime lunch with the

clydesdale we are back and

I feel like I've been gone

forever uh just missed one

show yesterday um did the

show for my mom's house

sunday night with the ass

lighting oh my gosh um

That room was so bright and

the paint is so light.

And I tried to mute it every way possible.

And man, it just was horrible.

But yeah, did that show Sunday night.

Just got back late yesterday evening.

Well, late afternoon, five o'clock or so.

And then got ready for another work week,

man.

So we're back.

Before we get too much further,

I'm going to do the dart throw.

I did see, we were talking last week.

someone said we should do a

day in the life of like

jamie and myself and

carolyn and uh and that

someone said that they

wanted to know how far the

dart throw was so after I

throw it I'll tell you

horrible horrible been away

too long got to get back at it way high

Way high,

just almost hit the number twenty itself,

not even on the like

scoring part of the board.

So I am exactly if I look straight ahead,

I am at the line you stand

at to throw at the dartboard.

But then you take like a

forty five degree angle back to my chair.

And then I got to go up over

the camera and all of that stuff.

So I'm at the distance, kind of,

maybe a little bit further

because of the forty-five degree angle.

But the angle just makes it tough.

Makes it tough.

So there's that.

All right.

I see Ken.

I see he's triple twenties

are good for fifty.

or five Oh one.

Uh, yeah, I, I missed the triple Ken.

I'm a, I'm actually just,

I actually hit the number,

not the triple space.

Um, so yep, that's where we're at.

Or that's a double space on the outside,

right?

Triples and the one closer.

Yeah.

I'm anyway, I hit the number.

I didn't even hit the circle

with the scoring his own.

Anyway, Ken Walters is here.

Let's dive into some stuff.

I have some notes on my

phone of just some stuff

that has been hitting me

since Sunday night that I

wanted to talk about.

And on the Sevan show just a minute ago,

yeah, triple is under double, yeah.

I was close to the double,

but I hit the number.

Tough angle is what Crooks thought.

okay don't know that

reference I don't think

anyway um so Ken's here he

was on the savant show just

like an hour ago um right

before eleven o'clock

Eastern time he said that

we came pretty hard at the

savant broadcast on Sunday

night in the first ten

minutes of our show

And I just want to kind of

clear some things up.

One, Ken,

you're one of my favorite dudes

in the space.

You share one of my best

memories in the CrossFit space.

Love hanging out with you.

I don't think we came hard.

I think the emotions of the weekend,

when you come into that

after seeing some great

races and some great finishes,

and you want to talk about it all,

and you just kind of get into the show,

you just kind of start

spewing out your thoughts.

Because of the way the

Sunday night show is

designed is that event ends

and then the show comes and

there's not a lot of time

to kind of debrief yourself.

You just kind of hit the show running.

And that's kind of the beauty of it.

It's kind of a first reaction.

And so I'm not going to step

back from anything I said on that show.

What I said is what I

believed in the moment and

still believe mostly today.

What I will say is I don't

think anybody ever compared

the broadcast that Savon

did to the broadcast Brian Friend did.

What I think was said was,

and this is Jamie's words,

and I will let her jump on

if she wants to come in and

jump on and talk about it.

Her words were that we all

shit on Brian Friend's broadcast.

And maybe we should have

seen how hard it was or how

difficult it was to carry

through a broadcast before we did that.

Because her view was that

while Siobhan's broadcast was good,

it was not perfect.

And therefore,

maybe there should have been

some more grace for Brian.

And those are her thoughts

that I'm interpreting.

Her and I have texted a lot over the last.

Twenty four to forty eight hours.

And so if people took that as a comparison,

it wasn't saying one was

better than the other.

It was.

It was saying that.

Both had their imperfections

and maybe we should have

given some grace to the one

before we attempted it

ourselves and had our own imperfections.

um and for me a lot of what

I I didn't have a problem

with the content I didn't

have a problem with them

having audio issues those

things are just going to be

a known what I had a

problem with is I missed

and it's the same problem I

have with road to the games

I'm going to talk about that in a second

is that storylines are

everywhere and you don't

always know what the

storyline is until it plays

out on the floor and so

initially at the beginning

of a race I just want to

see more than one athlete

at a time I want to see if

if you want to talk about

If you want to talk about

Mason and he's there,

just go back a little bit

so I can see the person to

the left and right while

you're talking about Mason.

I just want three lanes instead of one.

And those are not critical

of just Savant's podcast.

That didn't get done with Brian's podcast.

It didn't get done at mayhem.

It, it didn't get done at the games.

It's something that has been

an issue for years and

years and years with the

broadcast of CrossFit.

We seem to want to focus on

one person at a time.

I just,

and I know that the full broadcast,

breadth of the floor is

makes it too hard to see

everything so I'm just

asking for like a three

shot instead of a one shot

and I think that listening

to taylor yesterday he got

that and he wants to do

better at that and maybe

back up a little bit and

give us a couple people at

a time at norcal and we'll

see how that goes

I totally believe that this

group is going to self-assess.

They're going to take some

of the criticism,

the constructive criticism to heart,

and they're going to try to

do better at NorCal.

And we'll see how that plays

out this weekend.

But I do want to say I

appreciate anybody who puts

forth the effort and the

time to do these broadcasts

because without them,

I wouldn't have got to see

this last weekend.

having a rough season of

life where my wife is

having surgeries and um and

then we had a death in the

family this weekend so I

was not able to even be in

my home this weekend I had

to be in pennsylvania for a

funeral uh so without

without them I wouldn't

have got to see the

broadcast and I said

repeatedly on sunday night

I enjoyed ninety percent of the broadcast

were just a couple small

tweaks of the ten percent

that I wanted to see a

little bit different and

they can take my opinion

and tell me to shove it and

that's fine or they can

take it and do something

with it that's fine um so

I'm just one guy and it's

just my opinion and they

can take it or leave it right it is um

Yes, I did hear this, Ken.

NorCal will be tough.

Seve said they have five

less guys this weekend.

It's going to be very, very tough.

I also got some input from

someone who's actually

worked in the sports media

business broadcasting live content.

If you're trying to do it the cheap way,

we just have to get the

best we can with these

types of productions.

and know that the full thing

is not going to be possible.

There just isn't enough

money yet in the sport that

we have to get that full

blown because not everybody

has mayhem money.

So a lot of these people are

just going to have to go

with a cheaper rate and

we're going to have to

accept that there are

limitations to what they can do.

And I completely understand a lot of that.

Um,

And I thought overall their

picture quality was pretty good.

I thought the commentary

with Bill and John was really good.

I thought Taylor's

interviews were really good.

All of that was good.

I just have that one small critique.

That's really it.

There might have been a

couple other things,

but they're negligible.

James W. says...

We all say we want CrossFit

as a sport to grow.

It's never going to happen

if we accept the quality of syndicate.

Video was okay considering it was free,

but the commentary was so unprofessional.

So I've kind of thought

about this and I've heard a

lot of this being said over

since the broadcast was over.

If you want different commentary,

then Syndicate should have

hired a different group to do it.

The reason that they got

hired is because they are

the most popular group of

broadcasters in the space.

Syndicate brought them in to

try to draw some people to

the stream and draw some

people to the event.

They are who they are.

To ask them to change who

they are is an unreasonable expectation.

If Syndicate wanted to go

with the traditional broadcast,

that's when you bring in

Sean Woodland and Chase and

Bill and you do your thing

and you have the typical

sideline reporter.

You can't have it both ways.

And that's the problem.

I understand people,

and Jody makes a point.

The commentary was not

alarming to anyone who

regularly listens to Savant.

Correct.

But you're going to have

people watch a broadcast

that don't typically watch

the Savant show.

But Syndicate made this what

it was because that's who

they hired to bring in to do this.

If you're going to,

not going to hire pat mcafee

to broadcast a football

game if you want it to be

this is the best example

right monday night football

does the manning cast the

manning cast is an

alternate broadcast but the

nfl has money to pay for

two broadcasts they can pay

for troy aikman and joe

buck to do a professional

broadcast in the

traditional manner over here on espn

Then on ESPN, too,

they have the Manning cast.

If you want something

different and something as an alternative,

that is on ESPN, too.

The NFL has the money to do that.

CrossFit does not have the

money to do that.

They get to bring in one person,

and Wilson hedged his bet

on bringing in the most

popular show in the space

to do a broadcast,

and they're going to do it

the way they do their broadcast.

To expect it to be different is...

is like hiring a plumber to

do electrical work.

You just can't, you can't do that.

So, and I am, I'm of the,

because I'm in a media

space where I talk a lot,

I believe that everybody

has the right to say

whatever they want to say.

And then you as the consumer

have the right to watch it, not watch it,

turn off the volume,

do whatever you want to do.

You have that right as well.

Um,

so I feel like I'm just rambling at

this point, but that's, that's the,

that's a fact, right?

You, you hire Savant to come in and do,

and his crew to come in and

do the broadcast.

You're going to get Savant

doing the broadcast.

That's not going to change.

Ken Walters, that's well said.

Money embodies resources to work it.

Are the issues most is on their own dime.

And without CA peptides,

chances would be impossible to do.

Chances are it would be impossible to do.

They also have come a long

way from their first comp a few years ago,

Zealous Games done on just

iPhones and tripods.

James, they are who they are.

Sure, that's fine,

but it's not going to

attract new fans at all.

Imagine tuning in for the

first time and hearing some

of what was said on the air at Syndicate.

From the majority that I listened to,

I thought they were really

on their best behavior for most.

Now,

if you listen to the post show or the

pre show, then that's them being them.

But on the broadcast,

I thought they did a pretty

good job for the most part

with all of that.

Um...

Shay,

there were parts I enjoyed and I

enjoyed in parts that I

couldn't listen to around my kids.

Yeah.

Meredith says,

I'm actually kind of

surprised that the

broadcast was as family

friendly as it was given

Savon's typical content.

I do.

I have to agree with you on that,

Meredith.

Um,

Andrew,

I hope Wilson knew what he was

getting when he agreed to it.

Haven't watched the broadcast,

but I hope the commentary

doesn't cause any blowback on Wilson.

I don't think there's a lot

in the broadcast of the

event that would be blowback.

So...

scott did you see hillar's

compilation they played

before you left for your

meeting I did not I did not

I did I actually was

talking to andrew a ton

yesterday over some other

things we're going to get

into that in a minute um

I'll have to go back and

and watch what you're talking about ken

Yeah,

I wish I didn't have to go to the

meeting I went to.

It was not a fun meeting to be in.

Maybe it won't grow with

that style podcast.

Bill tried to rein it in, but yeah,

I think, I don't know.

I think the growth part is

something that needs a

further discussion than

just over language and talk

and where we are and what's appropriate.

Because there is part of me

that thinks that the

traditional broadcast is just boring.

I know when I buy the Rogue

package every year,

I do not listen to the

traditional broadcast.

I listen to Pat Sherwood and

Josh Bridges and all the athletes.

They come on talking during the thing.

I really enjoy that much

more than the traditional broadcast.

So I don't know.

So what was Hiller's compilation?

Was it the...

Was it from his YouTube

video where he talked about

the fisheye lens and not

being able to do his thing?

Cause I did watch that last night.

I will admit I'm,

I am way behind on CrossFit content.

Um, uh,

a four that turns into a five hour

drive yesterday.

Um,

just made it so I couldn't do a lot of

stuff.

Um, and it's really a good thing.

We did not try to get to, uh,

It was all the snippets of swearing.

I have not seen that.

I will definitely have to check that out.

My wife's doctor said we

shouldn't drive to

Knoxville because of her

knee and the swelling that

that could occur.

We had to go to Pennsylvania,

which was much less than that.

And on the way home,

she was in a lot of pain.

But we were there for a

funeral that she needed to be at.

So we'll see.

But yeah, rough, rough go yesterday.

So I'm way behind on content.

Eric Mackey syndicate views Friday,

ninety two K Saturday, sixty two K Sunday,

fifty five K. I think some

of that will be attributed to.

Friday has more time for

people to go back and do some replays.

The others will probably

pick up a little bit.

But I get what point you're

trying to make.

hearing real people talk

like real people who are

super invested and

knowledgeable about the

sport was great I loved it

I and corey I would

anticipate that you would

love it you are a dealer

daily listener of savan and

that you would be fine with

everything that was happening um

But I do understand the

other point as well.

But again,

that is who Wilson hired to do this.

They're going to be who they are.

To expect anything different

is just not reasonable.

So.

A couple of things that I didn't.

wanted to address is

yesterday when bryson and

ty and tyler were on taylor

were on doing the morning

show bryson said that the

reason they shouldn't watch

spencer win the event is

because the storyline was

the close race for who is

getting a games ticket and

I wanted to address that

there is no one singular

storyline ever at a sporting event

And it's okay to highlight

some of each of the

storylines as you're going.

Spencer doing something

better than anybody else

was doing it should be part

of the storyline that

happens during a race.

It doesn't mean you stay on

him the entire race until he finishes,

but at least show why he is

winning everything at this point.

Then move over to the race

and do a wide shot of three

athletes who are competing

for that last spot.

So you have two storylines

happening at the same time.

That is okay.

That is wonderful.

Those are the things you

want at a sporting event.

The more storylines that are going on,

the better the broadcast becomes.

So to say that they

shouldn't have shown Spencer at all,

that's ignoring one entire

storyline from the event.

And it doesn't mean you give

a hundred percent of it to

Spencer for winning.

It's just highlight him,

show him what he's doing,

highlight that he's on his

third win in a row,

and then go back for the

race for the rest of that.

Shay says, absolutely.

I've always liked Shay.

She always agrees.

Not always, but.

And for the third win of the day,

I agree on that one.

Eric Mackey,

highlight their enthusiasm and

personality,

but without the swearing and vulgarities.

Like Taylor's interviews, he was great.

Taylor was awesome.

Him showing his enthusiasm made it great.

Seeing him get excited to

interview Ben Smith and to

tell Ben Smith the

inspiration he's been to

then see what Ben Smith's reaction was,

my gosh, that was like epic.

That was one of the greatest

moments of the weekend.

Kenneth DeLapp,

new listeners aren't likely

tuning in to the semifinals,

probably the games though.

you never know how people

are going to find you.

But again, it's what,

it's what the syndicate could afford.

And we got it.

We got a stream.

And if you don't like the commentary,

turn the volume down.

You know, we have options as consumers to,

to,

to make things better on our own and

not have to demand change.

Taylor is naturally natural

and had excellent questions.

I enjoyed him on the sideline.

Yeah.

One thing like,

maybe I'll get into this

later in the week, but you know,

out of necessity,

I started doing some

sideline reporting and just

putting them up on my

Instagram at semifinals back in the day.

Um,

Uh,

and I have some thoughts on all that

because I hated the way

they were being done too.

And I really took a different approach,

but I'll tell you the story

of how all that kind of

organically happened for me.

And it's kind of what got me

my first real step in the

door to doing this podcast more at a high,

at a higher level with more

knowledge and things of that nature.

So,

Jody Lynn says, what they can afford.

I thought Savon did it for free.

He did do it for free,

and I have confirmed that for sure.

He did it for free,

but that's what Syndicate could afford.

I think what it did, though,

is it allowed Syndicate to

give five hundred dollars

for every winner throughout the day.

It gave them more

opportunities to make it a

great experience for the athletes,

for the fans, all of those things.

And when I say they did it for free,

that's a little bit of a misnomer.

I think that what they did

is they told syndicate,

we'll come in and we'll do it for free,

but we get any money we can

make through the broadcast,

through sponsorships,

things of that nature.

So you saw commercials

during the broadcast, which is brilliant.

And if they did make that agreement,

more power to them.

Kudos for hustling and getting that done.

They got all the donations

from the fans throwing

money at them at a dollar

ninety nine or more throughout the day.

So I do think they recoup some of it.

And they've been very open about C.A.

Peptides helping them out by

getting them an Airbnb for the week.

So I do think there was some

some money that changed hands.

It just wasn't between

CrossFit or Syndicate Crown

and the Savon podcast.

I think Jim Reapers was a

syndicate sponsor,

not a broadcast sponsor.

Yeah,

I don't know exactly what everything was,

but I do think that they

did have some sponsorships.

They had people on the

broadcast promoting their product,

and I think that probably

helped them to some degree.

um yeah I have a couple more

kenneth don't rush me um

the last thing I want to

say the highlight another

highlight for me on the

weekend if you guys know me

and I've talked about on

the show wrestling used to

be like my second favorite

sport uh pro wrestling that is

that we got to see Kane as

the mayor of Knoxville

talking about Knoxville and

all of that stuff in the

interview that he did with

the broadcast team was one

of my favorite things of the weekend.

I was like a twelve-year-old

boy getting to see one of

my old heroes on the

broadcast and I can't

believe that this monstrosity guy, Kane,

who was an awesome awesome

wrestler was so smart and

intelligent and so fun to

listen to and I just have

to say that was one of the

extreme highlights for me

um of the weekend and I

couldn't have loved that anymore um

And then I will say one more thing.

I did talk about the

template for my show and

TEF using the same template

at the end of my show on Sunday night.

It was at the very end.

It was kind of an afterthought for me.

I talked to Jamie about it

earlier in the weekend,

but it was just kind of an afterthought.

At the end of the day, one,

Hiller really cut out a lot

of what I said,

but the point was the point.

I don't own that template.

They can use whatever they want to use.

I just found it funny that

this little old podcaster over here,

that's been chugging along for five years,

gets my template stolen by

the big corporate entity that is, um,

TEF.

And I just thought it was

funny that instead of

finding something of their own,

they use the exact same one that I did.

And.

And I mean, behind the curtain,

I use Canva to make my thumbnails.

I'm sure they use Canva to

make their thumbnails.

And Andrew Sten,

I don't understand what

template you're referring to.

If you go to Hiller's Instagram,

Hiller four point oh,

he posted them side by side.

It's a slide screen.

And you can see mine and you

can see theirs.

The best form of flattery is imitation.

In my work life,

I finally took those as a compliment.

Yeah,

I'm not butthurt about it or anything

like that.

I just found it ironic that

in this niche sport where

there's not a lot of people

working in it and the

millions of templates that

are available on Canva,

we use the exact same one.

Now I'll tell you sometime this week,

I'm changing mine.

I just got to find something

and I've got to,

and I always modify mine.

So I put some G like you'll

notice on the screen right

now around me on the

right-hand side are some

geometric shapes that I put

on mine that they don't have on theirs.

Um,

and I always modify the template to

some degree.

Um,

just because.

So just to make it different

and not just the template.

But anyway, go work out, Mackie,

Eric Mackie.

Have a good one, man.

All right.

Last thing, road to the games.

So behind the scenes, I've been, man,

I've been talking with

I've been talking with

Hiller a little bit about

the road to the games.

We share some thoughts about

what's happening with the

road to the games.

And what I'm going to tell

you is the road to the

games that currently exist

is not the ones titled road to the games.

The ones that exist that are

road to the games are the

the forty eight hours with

Andrew Hiller that he's been putting out.

And I've been saying for a while,

and his Hopper video,

his Hip and Steel video have been really,

really awesome.

What happened last night

cemented this for me.

In Hiller's latest video,

he does an interview with

Erica Folo with her talking

about missing out on her

opportunity to make the games.

Getting her in this raw,

right after the syndicate moment,

and it's literally like a FaceTime call,

and her talking about

missing out on the games,

that's the stuff.

That's the gold that is

going to make this series

he's doing even better.

And what's awesome about it

is that when she qualifies

for the game someday,

it is going to be epic.

Because he has this whole

run-up of spending time with her,

FaceTiming with her,

in this relationship

building where she's open

and honest about her

feelings about everything.

And then she's going to make

it to the games and it's

going to be this climax in

this... If you've ever...

heard about um the hero's

journey like every good

movie every good book has a

hero's journey and when she

makes it to the games the

climax is going to hit and

it's going to be awesome

that is where your road to

the games are now um

You made a good point.

They need to show more of

their personal life, not just training.

And when they go to them on

a training day and they

pick their active recovery day,

it's even worse.

And that's what happened with Fi.

You go to Fi on her active

recovery day and then all

you show is workout stuff.

Man, it's a double miss.

CrossFit,

these are miles to Madison on the

HQ side.

Old road to the games went to regionals.

And we didn't know if the

athletes we filmed would make it correct.

That is it.

We didn't know the end of the story.

We didn't know.

And it got us to root for

people at the regional level.

Lito says,

just need to see a Hiller video

with Brooke now.

Yeah,

I don't think that's happening

anytime soon.

We need the old Enns Bridges one.

That's one of my favorites of all time.

All Dismissed at Once is one

of my favorites.

Even the Tia Wright one here.

Like, Tia,

I became a fan of hers because

of that video, and she never,

ever made it.

Never made it.

um the example you gave with

fee was good I had no idea

she played the violin I

don't yeah is erica follow

doing no workout she is not

season is done uh her coach

actually comes on the

facetime call and they talk

about the plan for the

season and trying to

qualify for wfp and maybe

trying to do some canadian

uh competitions she may be

teaming up with sam cornway

for an event in montreal a

team competition up there so

She is doing the last chance qualifier.

I believe they want to see

how her body holds up to

what happened at syndicate.

And if she's in good shape

after a couple of days rest,

they're going to ramp up for an,

a last chance qualifier.

It's all in Hiller's video.

It's all in Hiller's video.

But it's not labeled as Erica follow.

It is.

I think it has Brooke on the

front as the thumbnail.

And the Erica follow thing

is at the end of the video,

but it is the longest part

of the video and it is the

best part of the video.

Is Tia Wright doing the same

thing where she doesn't do

CrossFit anymore?

I don't know, Barry.

I actually had her scheduled

to be on the show maybe two years ago and,

uh,

just she got flighty and we missed

some times and never really got to,

to follow through with that.

Uh,

this would be the last thing I answered

and I got to get back to, um,

Got to get back to work.

But how did you hold up

seeing your in-laws, Scott?

I hope all went well.

Well,

I talked to my father-in-law for the

first time in three and a half years.

And that went very, very well.

And so hopefully that's a

baby step towards some

recovery there with my in-laws.

My mother-in-law, I've seen a few times.

She is the only one from my

wife's family that I have

talked to in the last few years.

But the biggest step is

going to be my sister-in-law,

which I saw her.

We did not speak.

And I've got to figure that

out because I've made steps toward her.

She has not made any towards me.

And we'll see what happens there.

And maybe on a show where

it's a little bit more dead,

I can talk about everything there

uh can go enjoy your ribeye

of course it's called it's

all over on hillar's

channel I feel like the

follow interview should

have been its own separate

video I think that hillar

does so much research on

what gets clicks and what

doesn't and what gets views

and what doesn't um that he

was trying to get or try

something out probably

sounds like her road to the

games training all right

guys scott you are correct

nothing is on accident I'm

starting to learn starting

to learn learn andrew with

that guys I actually have a

meeting at one o'clock

eastern time so I need to

bug off here but I will

Talk to you all tomorrow.

We'll pick up where we left off,

and we'll talk some more

about what happened this

weekend and some other things with that,

guys.

You knuckleheads get back to work.

We'll see everybody tomorrow

on Lunch with the Clydesdale.

Bye, guys.