THIS is What Happens When a President Threatens Their Power

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This isn't the first time we've seen a president persecuted for going against their system. Join me for an important interview with journalist and author Jack Roth. Followed by an Economic Update with Dr. Kirk Elliott.

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Seth Holehouse: 00:03

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So today is a pretty historic day if you look at what's happening with for president Donald j Trump. Actually, to sum up what's really going on, I'm gonna pull up one article that I found in the New York Times before recording. It says it all.

Seth Holehouse: 00:25

Trump will be arraigned today. Clinton will be honored. It says that hours after Donald Trump appears in court, his former opponent, Hillary Clinton, will be the honoree at a dinner 10 blocks from Trump Tower. And to me, that perfectly illustrates the corruption of our judicial system. If you look at someone like Hillary Clinton, which I'm not even gonna get into the list of crimes that, you know, she could be involved with, to put it lightly.

Seth Holehouse: 00:56

Yet you have them digging up anything and everything to put Trump behind bars, which to me shows one big thing. They are absolutely scared of Donald Trump. And they're also scared of what would happen in a twenty twenty four election because as much as I as I've been concerned about the elections going forward after 2020, the voting machines are still in place, they still have their mule operations, they're still not changing a whole lot of laws that are put in place because of COVID, thanks to CCP. And so as much I look forward and thought, well, does he really have a chance they can just steal it again? The fact that they're trying so hard and going through such extreme measures to prevent this man from running again, really shows me they don't have nearly the control over the twenty twenty four election that we might think that they do.

Seth Holehouse: 01:48

And even more importantly, they don't have the control over the American people. And what we see consistently is every time they do something, every time they act irrationally, it ends up having the opposite effect because truth is truth and they can only lie for so long. And the bigger and grander their lies become, the more people will see through them, the more people will awaken. And we're already seeing that since the indictment that the polls are swinging wildly for Trump way over Ron DeSantis. And I suspect that a lot of these voters that were in the center, center left are now gonna be saying, gosh, this is really crossing a line, and I'm gonna be moving over now.

Seth Holehouse: 02:31

And actually, think I should support this guy. This guy is being persecuted. This is political persecution. But what's interesting is I'll pull up a Fox News article here, they say that the Trump indictment may have given him the kiss of life for 2024, a veteran pollster says, like oxygen on fire. And so here it says that Trump raised over 7,000,000, and I even heard 8,000,000 in donations after becoming the first former president to be indicted for a crime.

Seth Holehouse: 02:58

So you can see that, again, it's having the opposite effect. But I think that it's really important that we take a big step back and look at this and think, well, who is this coming after him? You know, why Donald Trump? And really, it's because Donald Trump is the guy that they couldn't control. He was independently funded.

Seth Holehouse: 03:16

He didn't need to go and take money from Soros or from the GOP or anything. He was out on his own and he could not be controlled. And so this is what we've seen really since day one since he came down that escalator, he became public enemy number one. And so but what's interesting though is that he's not the first person let's go back in history and look at a few things. There have been many other people that have received persecution for going against the wish of the deep state.

Seth Holehouse: 03:45

Now, it's kind of interesting because recently I interviewed author, journalist, and filmmaker Jack Roth who had recently published a book called Killing Kennedy. And so in this book he goes into detail exposing basically how it was the CIA in the deep state that killed Kennedy to make an example of him. And not just to make an example of him, but to do it in a way that you'd have this MK Ultra style trauma splintering effect on people, that it would change people psychologically, and people would subconsciously feel like the evil is very powerful, which is why they chose to do it on such a public display. So this interview, though obviously this interview was done before the Trump indictment, we talk a lot about the role of the CIA, the role of the deep state in controlling politics and persecuting politicians. And obviously, one of the greatest examples we have was the assassination of John F.

Seth Holehouse: 04:38

Kennedy, someone that said he was going to, I think it was shatter the, CIA into a thousand pieces. He was also working on bringing back a precious metal backed currency, so he was going against the Federal Reserve. I mean, he was someone that was really going against what they wanted him to do and look what happened. So there's gonna be a lot of similarities between this discussion about JFK and who's really behind it and also how we can, get out from under this control and how we can take control of our country back. So similar between that and what's happening with president Donald J Trump right now.

Seth Holehouse: 05:10

So folks, I hope you enjoy this. Before we get started, make sure you're following me on social media at man in America, also on, Twitter as at man in America US. And every show is done as a podcast as well. So if you wanna listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app such as Apple Podcasts or Spotify or Podbean and search for Man in America and you'll find me there. Alright, folks.

Seth Holehouse: 05:32

Enjoy this interview with Jack Roth. So Jack, thank you so much for joining me today. It's a pleasure to have you on the show.

Speaker 2: 05:40

Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

Seth Holehouse: 05:43

Absolutely. So you recently authored a book, and actually I'll pull it up just so we can kind of set the foundation for our conversation called Killing Kennedy. Now, ten years ago, you know, this would have been you would have been chased off the, you know, Amazon best, you know, selling list as a conspiracy theorist. Now, I think that the mainstream people know that something really fishy happened with Kennedy and it's not just because they saw, you know, Roger Stone's movie about it. There's there's a lot more that's come out especially as of late and with even, I think it was RFK junior coming out and saying, yeah, they they killed him.

Seth Holehouse: 06:21

So why don't you just go ahead and and and walk us through a little bit of the the story that, you know, you as an investigative journalist piece together about what really happened with the assassination of of Kennedy.

Speaker 2: 06:38

Well, what I wanted to do was get current perspectives on the assassination, because here we are sixty years later, right? And it had always bothered me since I was a kid. And and from the from the minute I knew that Lee, that Jack Ruby walked into a police station, was able to get to Oswald, shot Oswald before he had his day in court, that to me was a big red flag. And I knew at that point that there was something not right about the whole thing, that there had to be some kind of a conspiracy. And then when you start researching, you start doing your own thing, you read books, you look into it and you realize this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 07:16

It's obviously there was something that happened that was beyond Lee Harvey Oswald. So I figured, I'm a journalist by trade, that's my background, so I said, how can I add to the thousands of books that have already been written? And one thing that struck me and a certain theme kept coming up over and over again, it's why it still matters today. And then it would be like the ripple effects. What are the ripple effects that from then that are still affecting us today?

Speaker 2: 07:46

So I went about putting together kind of like a people's history. I wanted to get current perspectives on the assassination and interview the right people, and then ask those right people the right questions. And by doing that, I could create this book where people can read it and then go from there on their own. I'd say, oh, you know what? I really liked this chapter, or I really liked this chapter.

Speaker 2: 08:08

And then boom, if they wanted to delve into more research on that, they could. So I wanted to present something to people. And really for me, it was about, it still matters. It still matters very much. And we've been feeling these horrible ripple effects since that day.

Speaker 2: 08:25

So that was my reasoning for writing this book. And that was, it was really, and I felt very strongly about it because I felt like I was duped as a human being. Like it insulted my intelligence that they were still getting away with this. And I just wanted to do something about it. That's all.

Seth Holehouse: 08:41

Yeah. Well, thank you for that because I think that it's really it's investigative journalism that isn't funded by somebody else for to achieve a certain outcome that we really need much more of these days because there's just so much control over the narrative and over what information we have access to. Now, thankfully, we're living in a time now where, you know, I can have my own podcast, you can publish a book, you know, we can do these things and get them out and reach people through the internet and everything which is good. So, you know, with I couldn't agree more that it's still relevant. It'll be relevant a hundred years from now.

Seth Holehouse: 09:17

It changed the course of our nation. And with that, kind of keeping that in mind, what would you say what are some of the conclusions that you were able to draw right from this? Because like right now we're seeing the FBI and these agencies of the government being in a lot of ways weaponized against the people. You know, we're seeing a government that's turning turning on its own people, referring to people as domestic terrorists, you know, for their political views, etc. And I think now you can see it, but, you know, they they want us to believe the story that at that time that it was just some lone gunman that just so happened to, you know, bypass bypass everything and all the security concerns and somehow have the perfect well placed shot from the obscure location.

Seth Holehouse: 10:06

So I think it's a highly important topic. So what what is some of the information? What are some of the conclusions that you started to draw from your research?

Speaker 2: 10:18

You know, I do draw conclusions in my conclusion of the book, but I was very careful because, you know, listen, I knew that I wasn't going to find that smoking gun that said, Oh, that guy was behind the grassy knoll, or that guy was in the sewer, or that guy is the one who gave the order. I think sixty years later, that's very hard to do. Plus I knew that other researchers had spent decades doing that work, which is why I'd rather interview them, get their take, again, ask them the right questions. So I could, you know, again, you know, create this compelling piece. So, but I do come to some conclusions.

Speaker 2: 10:54

And I think one of the things that's important for people to understand is that the world in 1963, America in 1963, at that point, we were at the zenith of our, I'd say power. There was this idea of American exceptionalism, and American exceptionalism was this concept that we were the best. We were the beacon of democracy. Everything about our country was good. We were the guys that wore the white hats, Okay?

Speaker 2: 11:29

And you know, we defeated the Nazis in World War II, and then we were, we were that beacon of hope and democracy and freedom and all these things. But when Kennedy was killed in '63, all of that started to erode and just piece by piece, right? A little by little, all these things, right? So we had, you know, we had this guy as president who was really in many ways, a courageous person because of what he was trying to do. And then after that, what did we have?

Speaker 2: 11:56

Lyndon Johnson, that's a whole other show, to be honest with you. It's crazy, man, crazy. And then, you know, Nixon, Watergate, wow, one thing after another. But what I conclude is that when people ask me, they say, oh, who killed Kennedy? And the easy answer, the safe answer I give two, the safe answer is the Cold War killed Kennedy.

Speaker 2: 12:22

The Cold War and its cold warriors killed Kennedy. Now who were its cold warriors? Alan Dulles, head of the CIA, right? Curtis LeMay, general joint chiefs of staff. These guys that were in World War II came from the OSS, which became the CIA, and they, there was no accountability in the CIA in the 50s and 60s, zero, zero.

Speaker 2: 12:53

And that was also for the FBI as well, and other agencies, Naval Intelligence, there were more of them. But they could do whatever they wanted to do, because in America it was, we have to defeat the red menace, communism. And they had carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to do. And what winds up happening when that's the case is, you know, it's corruption, major corruption. And, you know, we look back on history and say, well, why were all these coups in the fifties and sixties in these otherwise sovereign nations that, you know, and all of a sudden they, they were democratically elected leaders who were ousted, and other more, I would say, you know, not as good for the people leaders put in.

Speaker 2: 13:40

And you look at this elite group of people, and I'm sure, and this is what ties in then and now, there is an elite group of people, Harvard educated, blue blood elite. They control everything in this country, they always have. And what I say there is, and people say, well, who's that? Is it the Illuminati? Is it this, is it that?

Speaker 2: 14:05

It's just a group of people. And you could, you know, you could, I, you could say, well, it Rockefeller? Is it the trilateral commission? Is it this, is it that? They, it, when you look at Kennedy, okay, Kennedy was Irish Catholic, Harvard educated, but his family was not considered elitist blue blood.

Speaker 2: 14:28

So when he came into power, a lot of people already hated the Kennedys. They thought his father was a bootlegger, blah, blah, blah, etcetera. So there was this idea that here comes this upstart Kennedy, and he's going to try to change things. He's going to try to change things that are not something that the elitists want changed. And again, we can get into more detail about who the elitists are, why they're elitists, blah, blah, blah, but it's an overall 30,000 foot view of who killed Kennedy without getting into specifics of who made the order, right?

Speaker 2: 15:01

Who was behind the fence? Who did this? Who did that? So I tell people that, and there was no question about it, it was a conspiracy. At the time, it was an elitist, extreme right wing conspiracy, because Kennedy was liberal.

Speaker 2: 15:17

He was, you know, he was a Democrat, he wanted peace, he wanted certain things. And that's what I tell people today is the most important part of this. It's not about, we argue today about Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, they don't care. Yeah. These people who really run everything love it.

Speaker 2: 15:36

They love it when we do that because it takes the eye off the ball. We're arguing about things that they don't really care about as long as they maintain the control and the power.

Seth Holehouse: 15:46

I I couldn't agree more. That's one of my main messages that I put out there too. Alright, folks. I have a quick message for you. So if you're watching this interview, it's obvious that there is a conspiracy against us, We The People, to kill the president we loved and to do all kinds of other terrible things in their social engineering and their control as they are really seeking out this one world government through their great reset.

Seth Holehouse: 16:11

Now the other conspiracy that's really emerged recently though, and actually Tucker Carlson just recently covered this, the past couple of days, is how even the Biden administration was warning and talking about how they were going to create food shortages. And this is what we're experiencing now folks. We're seeing all these processing plants go up in flames. We're seeing just recently a massive chicken farm with over a hundred thousand egg laying hens was killed. They were burned up in a fire.

Seth Holehouse: 16:39

And we're also experiencing the pride the the real effects of inflation as we go to the store and beef is 50% more. Eggs are now $8.09, $10 a dozen. Milk is getting more expensive. Everything is going up. But actually, if you look at their plans and look at what they want to do, their goal is to really create famine.

Seth Holehouse: 16:58

It's what they're what they're trying to do. And so it's so important for us to become resilient against that. And here's a question for you. If tomorrow, let's just say, God forbid, the grid goes down and the grocery stores which will be emptied out in two days in that kind of scenario, The question is how long would you be able to go for? How much food do you have set aside?

Seth Holehouse: 17:20

Do you have just a couple of weeks? Do you have a couple of months? Do you have, you know, six months or a year worth of food? And do you have the ability to grow vegetables? Do you have seeds?

Seth Holehouse: 17:31

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Seth Holehouse: 18:19

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Seth Holehouse: 18:50

This is if you go back to communist China or, you know, the these, you know, Soviet Russia, when the communists took over, it was all about getting the population first to fight among themselves. Right? To create that class warfare, you know, have the landlords versus the peasants or the rich versus the poor. In America, you can see these same puppet strings are fueling racism in our country. They're fueling the, you know, straight versus gay, you know, battles.

Seth Holehouse: 19:17

They're fueling left versus right. Because and again, because as long as we're so focused on saying, my neighbor with the Joe Biden sign, he's the enemy, We're not gonna realize that actually it's these it's these again, as you mentioned, like how you phrase it, this powerful group of elite people that truly are the enemy. And what they don't want is for us to look at them. Right? Because when you see, it's like Oz behind the curtain.

Seth Holehouse: 19:40

They don't want us to go and pull back the curtain and say, hey, wait, here's a bunch of old men that we shouldn't be listening to. We're not gonna listen to you anymore. Right? So, you know, and I've I've studied these groups a lot, and then I'm also really fascinated by psychology, and I've interviewed people that have been, you know, victims of CIA, victims of MK Ultra programs with trauma based mind control and everything. And so I've kind of delved into those, I really want to get your opinion on this because before the show, we were talking about how the death of Kennedy changed our culture.

Seth Holehouse: 20:13

It changed the the the perspective of our country and the American exceptionalism. And if you I also think that it was part of a larger process of kind of mind control in a lot of ways. And I think that it's like, why did they do it in the way that they did it? Because now that we've established it wasn't some lone gunman, it was part of a larger plan. Well, obviously, they plan to do it in a way that it was recorded and in a way that people around the nation would see that, in a way that was, you know, someone's head exploding in a car in the back of a like, it was in a convertible.

Seth Holehouse: 20:48

It was very intentional. It wasn't like someone pulled a gun and shot the president in his chest and he falls over and dies. It created such a strong trauma memory for a lot of people that people of the older generations, like my parents, I can ask them and they will always be able to say, I was exactly right here when that happened. And I feel like that part of, you know, that perspective kind of ties exactly into the shift that you saw happening after the death of Kennedy. And so was it it's almost like it was a multi pronged operation.

Seth Holehouse: 21:20

One was to remove this guy that they didn't want in there. And and I wanted to hear your thoughts on some of the reasons why they wanted him out. But I think also that they were using it as a way to further control the populace. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2: 21:35

Yeah. Well, you know, go back to right after World War II. And, you know, we brought over a lot of Nazi scientists and we knew about the, you know, Operation Paperclip, which is it's not a conspiracy theory. That's a fact. Right?

Speaker 2: 21:49

So that we did bring these guys over. People, most of the people think, Werner Von Braun. Oh yeah, the space program, we brought the Nazi guys over, they helped us get into space and the space race, but we brought over a lot more than that. We brought over tens of thousands of not only Nazi scientists, but we helped a lot of Nazis, war criminals just escape Europe and go to Argentina, Detroit. I mean, people don't realize that Alan Dulles led that, the CIA, that was a CIA led program, Operation Paperclip.

Speaker 2: 22:17

And we kinda, a lot of these blue blood elites in this country, they kind of like fascists. They kind of like that because when you think about it, it's all about control and everyone else is not worthy, but you and your family, right? The blue bloods, the elitists, again, as we say it, but they kind of liked that. They hated the communists, but they, you know, we had to defeat the Nazis and, you know, the world war II, yes, blah, blah, blah, but we kind of liked them. I mean, I know this is hard for people to believe, but people like Alan Dulles thought that way.

Speaker 2: 22:50

So now you can have, after this, they bring over some scientists that also were involved in the mind control programs that were happening in Germany during world war II, they were doing these experiments in the concentration camp. So we just brought these guys over and that became part of MK Ultra. And MK Ultra, which now again, know is true, it's not a conspiracy theory, it is true. It was and still is a thing. They just keep changing the name.

Speaker 2: 23:19

So they changed the name and the program, but they're doing exactly what they were doing thirty years ago. And so, yeah, it's mind control. Kennedy's assassination was supposed to be extremely traumatic, because it was, they were making a point, and they were making a point not only to the American people, but to others who might ruffle the wrong feathers. So here's this guy Kennedy and you know, listen to Kennedy's, they were, they were a little cocky, right? They had the egos, him and Robert, right?

Speaker 2: 23:51

He was the attorney general. They kind of dug their own grave a little bit because they were like, well, you know, I know that the mob helped, helped me get elected, but Robert, go after the mob. It's pretty dumb to me. It's like, really, you're asking for it. And not so much that the mob was, they said, well, mob did it.

Speaker 2: 24:10

The mob didn't do it, but the mob was happy to be involved. I always tell that to, well, they were happy to help because they didn't like the Kennedys. So he had these upstarts, the Kennedys, and they, you know, they were like, John F. Kennedy was trying to do everything he was trying to do went against what people like the Allen Dulles and the J. Edgar Hoovers and the, you know, Curtis LeMayes and the Clint Murchison's, these big oil guys, right?

Speaker 2: 24:39

And he was making serious problems for them. Number one being obviously Kennedy wanted to, you know, put a halt to the cold war. He wanted to have a detente. He went behind the scenes with Khrushchev. He had to go behind the scenes and speak privately with Khrushchev because his Joint Chiefs of Staff and the CIA, they were all, they wanted to bomb the heck out of Cuba and everyone else.

Speaker 2: 25:03

Operation Northwoods, again, not a conspiracy theory, a fact. This was presented to Kennedy, and Kennedy's like, are you kidding me? Nuclear strike was gonna be a false flag event.

Seth Holehouse: 25:16

Yeah. Yeah. And and Operation Northwoods, am I correct that that was the operation involved hijacking a passenger plane? Right?

Speaker 2: 25:28

Yes. And again, you see the modus operandi. Right? You see how they operate over and over again. Right?

Speaker 2: 25:34

And yes, it was. And it's like, well, we'll do that, blame it on Castro, nuke Cuba. And they're like, well, you know, it's collateral damage. We lose a couple million if they happen to get one or two missiles through. It's okay.

Speaker 2: 25:49

These guys were all gonna be in their bunkers. So, and Kennedy's like, that is unacceptable on every level. He knew they were crazy. He thought they had all lost their minds. And he was like, these people have to be.

Speaker 2: 26:02

That's why he wanted to splinter the CIA into a million pieces, right? He said this, he said this in his speeches. In his last speech, he talked about that elitist group, that group of people that would have us, you know, that would rule over us, and all these things that he alluded to in these speeches about how we had to strive for peace, and that, you know, these guys wanted perpetual war, because General Dynamics, Bell Helicopter, who owned these? It's the same guys who went to Harvard and Yale, went to Skull and Bones. Were part of all these elite, elitist groups and families that go back generations.

Speaker 2: 26:39

So, and they were gonna make millions and billions of dollars on the Vietnam War. And Kennedy's like, no, I want everyone out of the Vietnam War. Why are we killing young Americans? And I'm like, are you kidding me? At some point, and I don't know when, I don't know the exact answers to this, but the people in the book all talk about it based on their expertise and where they're coming from.

Speaker 2: 27:01

But at some point someone nodded and said, basically, we gotta get rid of this guy. And he was going to win the next election. The American people loved Kennedy. He was winning the next election in 'sixty four. If he wins in 'sixty four, guess who wins in 'sixty eight?

Speaker 2: 27:24

Robert. Then he, and Robert does two terms. The people love the Kennedys, they weren't losing. Who did they have to run against them? Nixon, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2: 27:36

So that would've been 16 of policies that would've changed this country forever. It would've, the world, we would've had way more sovereign nations in places like Africa and South America, because this is all the stuff that Kennedy was doing during his first term. He wanted nations to be sovereign, but these guys know we own stock and we need to be there. We need to be exploiting their minerals and their, you know, everything, all their natural resources. It gets that high up and people don't realize that this has been happening forever.

Speaker 2: 28:17

It's like you said, this goes back, this same kind of control over the populace, over the many, by the few. This is the way the world operates, this is human nature. And when people actually are able to accept the psychology of that, then they'll understand very clearly why Kennedy was killed and basically who killed him. Maybe not exactly who killed him, but kind of the they're in the ballpark of who killed him.

Seth Holehouse: 28:46

You know, and that's an interesting perspective because I find that, you know, a lot of people that that I talk to or friends or family, you know, they they might look at me and say, oh, Seth's more of a conspiracy theorist because I, you know, I question the narrative and, like, I think that most things I've predicted over the last three years ended up being true, you know, by saying, they're gonna have vaccine passports, they're gonna be tracking us, they're gonna have digital IDs, they're gonna have a central bank digital currency. It's like, well, we're kind of all it's all, you know, coming to fruition now. And so, you know, with with this and with with Kennedy and and the overall conspiracy, you know, you made a really good point in saying that once people change the psych their psychology, it all makes sense. And that's what I think that's the tipping point for a lot of people. Is I think that for a lot of people, especially people in America, I mean, I a, I do think that we've been very intentionally dumbed down and distracted with bread and circuses and, you know, like like false education, terrible intentionally teaching us bad educational principles so we so we become disobedient sheep or cattle, right, for the elites.

Seth Holehouse: 29:55

But I also think that there's part of the American culture and that we're inherently good people. Like, we this country was founded on on virtuous principles. And I would say that in a lot of ways, America, especially the America I know, is a moral place. You know, I grew up in the Midwest in a small Christian home, and it was just a beautiful way to live. And so I think for a lot of people, this cognitive dissonance also comes from, like, not being able to believe that there is this kind of evil in the world.

Seth Holehouse: 30:25

Like people want to believe that it's one crazy person. They don't want to believe that there's a larger conspiracy. And I think that it's been designed that way because I also think that the elites, the blue bloods as you call them, that they have designed it that way. They want us because they're a lot of their power comes from them staying hidden. And and from people not, you know, knowing them, even the term conspiracy theorist.

Seth Holehouse: 30:50

Like I'm pretty sure that was actually a CIA created term so they could use it to attack anybody that questioned their particular narrative. And so if we look at where things are at right now, the fact that, you know, you wrote a book about this, you know, we're having a conversation like this, you've got even Tucker Carlson on mainstream media talking about I think it was last night or two nights, three nights ago, about how Joe Biden and his administration are intentionally creating food shortages. I mean, these are things that would have been so conspiratorial, you know, a few years ago. And so with where we're at right now, do you do you believe that the the fact the public is really catching on, you know, in a very large way, do you think that's an indication of a weakening of this controlling group? And do you think that they're starting to lose power and that there's a populist movement that's kind of uprising that has the potential to overthrow them?

Speaker 2: 31:50

That's an outstanding question and kind of a tough question to answer, because they still have a couple things on their side, and they're really good at it. You mentioned it. Cognitive dissonance is a psychological fact. It's the way humans think, right? So, and I'm so glad you brought that up, because that's people thought, and again, even in 1963, were especially in 1963, they were like, our government wears the white hats.

Speaker 2: 32:17

They would we would never do this. So for them to believe that there was a conspiracy, they couldn't they they couldn't wrap their heads around it, it was too uncomfortable for a lot of people to think that way, especially think about World War II veterans, these were patriotic people, we were a patriotic country, so we had to be the good guys, there was no question, we just had to. And if anyone said otherwise, they didn't want to hear it. So they have that going for us. They also control the narrative, mentioned that, right?

Speaker 2: 32:46

You know, Operation Mockingbird, that was also in play. That was a real thing. CIA, they controlled the New York Times, the Washington Post, much of the mainstream media. So when the Warren Commission came out, yeah, they're right, no one questioned it. A couple of journalists here and there, Dorothy Kilgallen questioned it, she wound up dead.

Speaker 2: 33:08

Do the research, I'm not making this up. So they still control so much. So, and of course they're so good at what they do, the Warren Commission comes out, they put out a memo, they create conspiracy theory, conspiracy theorists. Anyone who questions the Warren Commission report is a conspiracy theorist. They spread this, it's worked beautifully for 60.

Speaker 2: 33:40

These people are absolutely phenomenal at what they do. Because it's all my control, it's all propaganda, right? So, and they're good at it. And they learned a lot from the Nazis. Again, Joseph Goebbels loved the way they kind of operate.

Speaker 2: 33:56

It's like, damn, that guy was good. We need to use those same principles. They were good. They worked, right? So it's this mass brainwashing and the dumbing down, you mentioned that.

Speaker 2: 34:06

So when we say, well, yeah, it's great that you're doing the show and I'm doing this, I don't know, we have to reach a critical mass, but if we reach that critical mass, we have to do it together. And what I mean by that is, forget Joe Biden's a Democrat, forget Ron DeSantis is a Republican, forget all of it, okay? We have to come together and say, they're all doing the exact same thing, right? So Congress, you know, all the branches, everything that's happening right now, that's almost window dressing. It's window dressing so we can hate and like based on who we see in the news every night, because that's what they're feeding us.

Speaker 2: 34:54

They're feeding us what's happening in the house of representatives today for the eight thousandth day in a row. And that's what we hate. We like, we like her, we hate him. We hate, we love him. We hate her based on things that don't really matter as much as we think they matter.

Speaker 2: 35:12

But what we need to do is come together and say, man, we gotta put some of these, oh, I would say not made up differences, but not as important differences aside and say, let's forget about that Democrat Republican thing for right now, and let's focus on the who's, who are the puppet masters? Who are the people who are really pulling the strings? And some people don't like to hear that, I get that because people are really, know, they want, oh, but this is happening, I get that, but you know, you know, I've listened to you and it's like, it's higher than that, it's higher than that. So can we? Yeah, I think there's a chance and young people critically important.

Speaker 2: 35:53

That's why I wrote the book. I have a 21 year old son and he's interested in this. We watched JFK together. I didn't force him. People like, did you force him?

Speaker 2: 36:01

I didn't force him, but he loved it. And I said, you gotta watch it. And he happens to be a critical thinker. We need to raise critical thinkers. Dumbing down in education, they do that on purpose.

Speaker 2: 36:14

We're not raising critical thinkers. They don't even know who John F. Kennedy is. And that's one of the reasons I wrote the book. Not only do they not care about the assassination, they don't know who JFK was.

Speaker 2: 36:27

We can't, there's no way we can continue on this path. We have to do something, but we have to do it together. If we're fiftyfifty divided, which is exactly what we are now, right? Fiftyfifty, basically fiftyfifty, they are winning. They're doing exactly what they want to do to us.

Speaker 2: 36:42

And they'll have us argue and kill each other over things that don't matter to them. As long as there's perpetual war, right, there's certain things that they want and they want control of. And as long as those things are there, they're okay. I don't know, man, it's fighting a good fight, right? I wish I could say to everyone listening right now, yeah, we'll be okay.

Speaker 2: 37:07

Twenty years, we're gonna live in a peaceful world where we're all getting along and we're, and everyone's thriving. There's no more money issues. Everyone's doing okay. Like the fifties, if you had a job, you can buy a house. If you had a job, you can spend time with your family.

Speaker 2: 37:24

You know, if you hadn't made an honest living, you were okay, you had a good life. And then we get back to that, did we ever really have that? You know, I thought so, I wasn't alive in the fifties, but you know, and I know some of these questions are going on and on with, but it's so important and you're nailing it because you're saying, you know, yeah, it's all these things. I would say I'm cautiously optimistic about the fact that maybe we would be able to change things.

Seth Holehouse: 37:53

I'm in a very similar boat as you. You know, I think earlier in my life, was much more of what my wife would call a rosy lens guy. It's like I was always seeing things through this rosy lens. I always had a smile on my face. It's like, it's all gonna be great.

Seth Holehouse: 38:07

And then, you know, life shook me up a little bit and beat me up and left me on the curb and I kind of woke up and it's like, okay, well, this is this is reality. And so I also I agree that we, there's reasons to be optimistic, but it's cautiously optimistic because I think that we're at an inflection point, you know, we're at a place in history where I think that if enough people can come to their senses and get back to their moral roots and do the right thing that we can push it in the right direction. And I think that we can cause that tipping point to happen and that we can usher in an era of of goodness when enough people break out of this spell. But by the same token, if enough people refuse to think outside of what they're being told on TV or what, you know, Facebook is allowing them to see and and they dig in, then that's also gonna have the opposite effect. It's gonna pull us back the other way.

Seth Holehouse: 39:03

And I really I I'm I'm always enjoy, you know, having conversations where it's not about left versus right. And that's the one thing is a lot of people they say, oh, well, you know, Fox News, they're they're covering a lot of the really serious stuff. They're covering the really deep topics. And it's like, that's true. But they also do a really good job of keeping you convinced that the enemy is the left.

Seth Holehouse: 39:26

Just like, you know, say CNN or, you know, they do a job of keeping convincing people that the enemy is the right. And that's the thing is that, you know, I wanna see more voices out there saying, no, the enemy is not the left or the right. Like, let's let's all unite against the greatest threat to our freedom, which is this small group of people that want us to be, you know, kind of chained up like cattle and to be used and called at will and, you know, whatever they want to do to us. I think that that's really where it's at. And I think that for folks that are watching, it's a good reminder just to kind of reflect on it and be like, we have to overcome our hatred, our anger towards our other Americans.

Seth Holehouse: 40:06

And I try to look at it and say to myself, you know what? They've been deceived by the most skilled social engineers this world has ever seen. Like, they like, take take the best of the Nazi research and technology that turned people into prison guards. Right? Take the best of that, add, you know, another eighty years or so worth of insanely good research and testing.

Seth Holehouse: 40:32

And like, these are the people. So, you know, like, we we have to have compassion for our fellow Americans and not say, look at these these blue pilled sheeple. And, you know, we have to look at them and be like, gosh, like, I'm thankful that that I somehow awoke from that slumber. But it's like, how can I help that person see through it? Because they've been put into a trance, and we have to figure out how to shake them away.

Seth Holehouse: 40:57

But I can tell people it's, we're not gonna shake them and awake them by screaming at them and yelling at them and telling them it's all their fault. Alright, folks. So I have a quick message for you. So while the Trump story is absolutely a massively important story, I think that the much bigger story is what's happening with the dollar. We're seeing a massive decoupling of nations around the world that are abandoning the US dollar.

Seth Holehouse: 41:22

And honestly, it's only a time before it really starts to affect the value of the dollar because as more of these countries are dumping their treasuries and they're ending their doing business in the US dollar, we're gonna see less demand for the dollar. And I think that we're gonna be entering into what could be hyperinflation. So to insulate yourself from this, to protect yourself from this, if you have a lot of your assets sitting in the US dollar, meaning in your savings account, in your bank account, in a four zero one k, in an IRA, if the dollar goes kaput and the dollar weakens significantly, the value of all of those assets will go along with it. And this is why I'm such a big believer in silver and gold because not only do silver and gold maintain their value amidst economic turmoil, a lot of times they increase in value, but one of the big systems that's threatening the dollar is the BRICS currency system, which Russia has already backed their currency with gold and a lot of folks are expecting the new BRICS reserve currency to also be tied to gold, precious metals and commodities.

Seth Holehouse: 42:21

So I think that it's one of the safest places to have your wealth is actually in physical gold and silver. Now look, I'm not a financial expert, so please do your own research, but if you have some money sitting in the US dollar somewhere and you're worried about what you're seeing with the bank accounts, I highly recommend giving Kirk Elliott a phone call, checking him out. He has an amazing company Kirk Elliott PhD, where they help you move your assets into physical gold and silver while helping you avoid all the fees and complications of IRAs, four zero one k's, etc. They also sell you directly in a discreet packaging if you want to buy directly. So to learn more about this and work with Doctor.

Seth Holehouse: 42:57

Kirk Elliott, visit goldwithseth.com. So again, that's goldwithseth.com, you go to the website here, and you start with a free consultation. That's it. So you call up, you know, or you send a form, you scroll down here, you've got a basic form with your basic information, or you can give them a call at [phone]. Again, [phone].

Seth Holehouse: 43:21

So you can speak and set up an appointment with Kirk's team. One thing I will say to you though, is that they have been insanely busy, especially since the SB Silicon Valley Bank collapse. So it might take a little time to get back to you, but it's because everyone else is also making this decision right now. So don't be one day too late. Look, it's better to be a year, two years, five years early than to be one day too late.

Seth Holehouse: 43:46

So again, to goldwithseth.com.

Speaker 2: 43:48

Right. And that's a hard thing to do. Right? And whatever they're doing, they're doing to everyone. They're not just doing it to Republicans or Democrats, they're doing it to the entire population.

Speaker 2: 43:59

Right? There it's the masses. Well, guess what? We're all part of the masses. I don't care if you make $10,000,000 a year, you're still part of the masses.

Speaker 2: 44:07

We're talking about people with extraordinary wealth, with the kind of wealth you can't even imagine.

Seth Holehouse: 44:13

And trillions. I mean, it's beyond our AI It's power. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:18

I mean the power, and then when you have your hands on that technology that we're talking about, right, which is at this point, maybe the 1870s, we weren't worrying about any technology that would be like, woah, they have that technology, we're screwed, But now they do have that technology. And I'm not saying what that technology is exactly, I'm just saying in general, whether it's a technology, meaning the ability to really understand mind control and do exactly what's needed to very easily indoctrinate everyone. Listen, we're all indoctrinated from an early age, whether it's religion, politics, whatever societal norms, that's an indoctrination. So what we have to do is constantly fight that. Like we were the people, I always say, when I was in catechism in Catholic school, I was the one who raised my hand, was like, yeah, you know, and the nuns would be, and I'd be like, you know, that whole thing, I just, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2: 45:12

And then whack, I get my hand literally whacked with a ruler. I mean, this happened, you know, and this was in, you know, late sixties, early seventies, right? So I'm indoctrinated, but I'm, if you're a critical thinker by nature, you got a chance so that you're like, wait a minute, something's not right here, right? Wait a minute, Jack Ruby, really? Really?

Speaker 2: 45:34

He's killing Oswald? Nah, that's all you need to know. I tell people that's all you need to know to know that there was a conspiracy. You don't need to know anything else. It's that simple.

Seth Holehouse: 45:47

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 45:48

But you know, it becomes so convoluted, right? And then you have shills, what I call shills, like you get paid to write a book about, well, it was, and then everyone's confused, and it becomes so convoluted that you're never gonna find at this point exactly who gave that order, right?

Seth Holehouse: 46:06

Well, it's almost like, and it's a good point, because let's just take nine eleven as an example, right, which is a very controversial event. There's a lot of conspiracies and I happen to think there's a lot of truth to a lot of those but it's kind of like what you're saying like who Oswald and everything it's like, Building 7. It's like, are you aware there's the third building that also didn't get hit by a plane that randomly collapsed like at a freefall as and people heard detonations going off? I mean, it's kind of like even if you're not saying look, maybe I'm not saying that it was George Bush who pressed the button, at least take a look at and say, you know what, that doesn't really make sense. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 46:43

It's about, you know, that critical thinking, which you can see why they don't want us to have that critical thinking because actually, they're not that good at covering their tracks. They're actually pretty sloppy. Right? They really depend on people just not thinking critically to get away with this stuff. But I think that there is a resurgence of critical thinking happening.

Seth Holehouse: 47:03

So anyway, Jack, it's been such a pleasure having you on today. What a fun conversation. I'm thinking like, I gotta have you back on again. We'll talk about Operation Paperclip or MK Ultra or, you know, some of the things I love digging into. But I want to pull your website up one more time for folks and so that the URL for everyone watching or listening is jackrothauthor.com.

Seth Holehouse: 47:24

And here you can obviously check out Jack's recent book Killing Kennedy, which I highly would recommend. And you've also got other books as well that, you know, people can also find on here and they can, you know, follow you and learn more about you. So, Jack, do you have any closing words for the audience?

Speaker 2: 47:45

Yeah, what I would say to people is, and this has been so much fun, by the way, thank you for having me on. You could, we can talk about this for five hours. So it's hard when it's not that long, you know what I mean? Because there's so much to talk about. But what I would say is, you know, about my book, pick it up, read it, keep an open mind, and then take it, use it as a launching pad.

Speaker 2: 48:10

And if there's something that really catches you and you really think intuitively you need to know more about, you do, you need to know more about it. And then find out more, there's so many great books, but I wanted to make this easy. I wanted to make this the kind of book that anyone can read, they can really get interested in a lot of parts of it, right? Different elements of the assassination, and then go from there. So yeah, I would say just do it and keep an open mind and do your own research.

Speaker 2: 48:38

Do your own research. Don't listen to what anyone says. Don't, you don't have to listen to what I say, anyone says, anyone on any news, dig, dig, dig, dig, and be a critical thinker. And then you will find the answers.

Seth Holehouse: 48:52

Absolutely. Also, I will put the links to the the book in the description that'll make it easy for people that way. Can just go there, click, boom, get the book. So, Jack, thanks again for coming on. It's a pleasure having you.

Seth Holehouse: 49:05

And I'm looking forward already to our next conversation.

Speaker 2: 49:09

Yes. So am I. Thank you so much, man. This is a lot of fun. Thank you.

Seth Holehouse: 49:13

Absolutely. Take care. Alright, folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got a quick economic update with you with Doctor. Kirk Elliott.

Seth Holehouse: 49:24

Alright, Doctor. Kirk Elliott, it is an honor and pleasure to have you back on the show. Thanks for joining us today.

Todd Callender: 49:30

It's my pleasure, Seth. Great to be back.

Seth Holehouse: 49:33

These are some interesting times that we're living in to say the least. And, you know, we've been talking about this bank contagion and this banking crisis that really started with Silicon Valley Bank and, you know, quickly spread to others and we saw it starting to kind of infect Europe. We had UBS and then Deutsche Bank and so but, you know, a lot has happened in the past couple of weeks. And so let's try to take a look together and you could you've seen some articles that we can look at to understand just how serious this is and especially now that it's spreading to the Deutsche Bank. So let's let's all let you kind of take it from here.

Todd Callender: 50:15

Yeah. So let's take a step back to Silicon Valley Bank. Right? So that was the largest bank run-in history. You know, in just over a weekend, $42,000,000,000 of deposits were withdrawn.

Todd Callender: 50:30

And and that's what caused them to fail because if you go back to March of twenty twenty, the Federal Reserve under Regulation D changed the reserve requirement. The banks had to hold back to zero. Right. So so normally they keep 10% back as fractional reserve banking. Right.

Todd Callender: 50:48

They they'll if you deposit a hundred bucks, they'll keep $10 back and lend out 90. And then why do they keep the $10 back? Well, because you're writing checks off of it. Right? So they have to have some money held back.

Todd Callender: 51:01

But during COVID, in a in a chance to stimulate the economy, you know, they they basically said, okay. Reserve requirement, zero. You don't have to hold anything back. And then in a subsequent administrative ruling, they changed it to permanent. Right?

Todd Callender: 51:17

It wasn't just a a temporary emergency thing. It's now a permanent rule. Right? 0% reserve requirement. So that's dangerous.

Todd Callender: 51:26

This is how Silicon Valley Bank went under because too many people were withdrawing and they didn't have enough, so then it had to go into FDIC receivership. Right? So so then the question becomes how quickly can a contagion happen? Right? Because if other banks know that they went under and smart people hedge funds, big, huge monster companies that have $400,000,000 in checking accounts like Hulu, Right?

Todd Callender: 51:57

So or I'm sorry, not Hulu, Roku. Roku. So Roku had over $400,000,000 in checking accounts. Well, they technically couldn't get it out. Right?

Todd Callender: 52:07

So so that's what started to spread. Other other CEOs were thinking, oh, nuts. They can't get their money out. I wonder if we're gonna be able to. So then that started to spread to other banks.

Todd Callender: 52:16

It's like, well, that was a big bank. They have a 73,000,000,000 in assets. What about my small community bank? What about big banks? What about JPMorgan Chase?

Todd Callender: 52:23

What? So here's how it can happen really quickly once a news story gets out, because nothing is more sacred to a person outside of their family than their money. Right? So it became this fast growing, you know, like forest fire that just was ravaging banks across the the country. Then it moved over to Europe.

Todd Callender: 52:48

So here's where it starts to get really squirrelly. Credit Suisse, point three trillion dollars in checking and savings accounts, dollars 3,900,000,000,000.0 in total assets. Right? So Silicon Valley Bank, one hundred and seventy three billion. Credit Suisse, one point three trillion.

Todd Callender: 53:08

It's like eight times the size. Look what happened from Silicon Valley Bank. If this would have happened to Credit Suisse, lights out globally, we would have had a bank run like nothing we've ever seen. It would have actually changed the trajectory of global finance, It would have been banks going under all over the globe, which is technically what I believe the the globalist want because they're ushering in a central bank digital currency. Right?

Todd Callender: 53:37

However, they can't do it that quick because they're not ready for it. So just on March 15, the Federal Reserve came out with a memorandum saying that the Fed now, and we covered this, that the Fed now app was going to go into deployment for in July to be released for beta testing next week in April. Right? So it's like, if all the banks were to fail right now, they're not ready for central bank digital currency. They don't have the conduit from us and our money to the central bank repository of digital information, our digital social profile, the debits and credits are actual digital money, right?

Todd Callender: 54:19

So this is why banks are still being bailed out. This is why UBS, even larger than Credit Suisse, had to bail them out for $3,200,000,000 They bought the bank for 3,200,000,000.0. Okay. Here's where it gets dumb. It's like either the negotiators at UBS are the best in the world, and I would like to hire them because they bought a bank with $1,300,000,000,000 worth of checking accounts for $3,200,000,000 or it was the worst investment in the history of humankind.

Todd Callender: 54:54

And which I would say that is actually the case because if you look at back when we talked about this a week ago, I thought that based on the size of the bank and the size of their assets that maybe according to in comparison to US banks, maybe they had between 1 and $10,000,000,000,000 in derivatives debt. And so even if somebody paid $3,200,000,000 for 1,000,000,000,000 of debt, that's stupid. I I would pay not even a penny. I wouldn't pay anything to acquire a trillion dollars worth of debt. That's stupid.

Todd Callender: 55:30

Right? So but yet it happened. And so here's where I was wrong. They don't have 1 to $10,000,000,000,000 worth of derivatives debt. According to the Bank of International Settlements this morning that the article came out, 39,000,000,000,000.

Todd Callender: 55:47

30 9 trillion. Right? So if I were the shareholders at UBS, I'd be so ticked right now. It's like, what? You spent $3,900,000,000 of the bank's assets and shares that we own to buy a company, a bank that has $39,000,000,000,000 worth of debt?

Todd Callender: 56:06

You kidding me? Right. So but UBS had to. They actually had to because if Credit Suisse would have gone down, so does the entire European banking system. At that size, so does the global banking system.

Todd Callender: 56:20

Right? So so they kind of took one for the team. It's like, okay, well, let's buy them out because if they go under the contagion will spread like a forest fire, wildfire and just ravage all the banks in Europe. Well, that started too because also over the weekend, what else happened? Deutsche Bank.

Todd Callender: 56:41

Now they're starting to hit the skids. They're starting to make the news of the financial contagion is spreading to them. How big is their derivatives debt? According to the wall street journal, their derivatives debt's 47,000,000,000,000. See Goldman Sachs is 53,000,000,000.

Todd Callender: 57:06

JPMorgan chases, 50,000,000,000,000. They're in the landscape here in the same view as some of the largest banks in North America. So this would be big. This would be absolutely devastating. A bank collapse that the world wouldn't recover from except through a basically complete elimination of debt.

Todd Callender: 57:32

Right? I mean but but if you did this and you didn't bail out this bank, what what happens? Right? So this is where it starts to get really weird because Janet Yellen last week at the American Bankers Association meeting said that the government was going to backstop $18,000,000,000,000 worth of US banking deposits. 18,000,000,000,000.

Todd Callender: 57:55

That's all of them. Small banks, large banks, everybody in between. What she just did with that statement saying that all depositors trying to instill confidence in the system said all deposits are going to be insured. All. All means all.

Todd Callender: 58:08

Right? She just nationalized the banking system with that statement. But here's the problem. There's no good outcome from that at all because let's just say half of them went under because $18,000,000,000,000 is 75% of our GDP. Our total national debt is 32,000,000,000,000 from 1776 until now.

Todd Callender: 58:34

You can't print that much money. And I'm not saying that every bank in the country would go under either, but let's say it's half. Let's just say it's a quarter. It's like, what? There's so much trillions there that we don't have that they would just have to print, that the inflationary spiral that would ensue from that would devastate people's livelihood, it would devastate their money, and they would end up penniless.

Todd Callender: 58:59

Right? Same exact outcome as if they didn't bail out the banks at all. People end up penniless. So what they're doing is they're kicking the can down the road with the same outcome. Either you don't have money now or you don't have money later because the inflationary pressures from that kind of a stimulus rescue plan would be devastating.

Todd Callender: 59:21

I mean, absolutely devastating, which is why you're not seeing the big huge banks fail yet. And I say yet because as soon as like FedNow app is ready to rock and roll in July, as soon as other conduits from people's money to their central bank digital currencies, regardless of what country you're in, as soon as that's ready, let them all fail so you can usher in central bank digital currency because then people will want it, they'll be screaming for it. They'll say, please bring it, right, if it's going to help fix things, but nobody's going to want it before then because why would you want a government run bank that's promised to cut you off from buying or selling if you don't agree with their plan? It's really bad PR, it's bad, nobody would ever want that unless things got so bad, and here's what people have to realize Seth, the people ushering in central bank digital currency are the same ones that have the system now. It's the same central bankers.

Todd Callender: 01:00:21

They're just going from a private paper based system to a non private digital based system. It's the same people. It's like they win either way, so they don't really care. But what they do want is the control that comes next. They're just not quite ready for it.

Todd Callender: 01:00:36

But as we see this unravel, people everywhere are gonna start losing their money as banks ultimately have to face the music. Right? Everyone has to pay the piper at some point. Debt is the Achilles heel of the global economy. We're seeing that play out.

Todd Callender: 01:00:53

Banks don't have any liquidity, which is how these banks are going under, and they go into FDIC receivership. Before you know it, FDIC is gonna be out of money too. And then they're just gonna have to do what Janet Yellen said they were gonna do and backstop everything with our taxpayer dollars, meaning they're going to print their way out of it. And the inflationary pressures that we've seen so far are nothing compared to what would be coming.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:19

And so looking at this whole situation, and I'm trying to obviously, I'm, you know, not a a PhD in economics. I'm piecing my understanding of it in kind of more the simpleton terms and how I how I'm looking at the situation. It seems like what this contagion is revealing is that these banks aren't healthy at all. Right? And let's just I'm use I'm kind of building the analogy of restaurants.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:42

So let's let's pretend I'm a restaurateur. Right? And I'm buy I buy buy restaurants. And so let's imagine that these five restaurants that look like they're doing really, really well, right? Say that, you know, for a small restaurant, they're they're making a million dollars a year.

Seth Holehouse: 01:01:55

And it's like, okay, these look like great restaurants. They're healthy. They've got, you know, good customer flow. But then through looking at their books, I find out that each restaurant is actually $50,000,000 in debt. But like they're not, they're not telling anybody, right?

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:10

I know it's a, it's a kind of a bad analogy, but it's almost like most people they walk, they go to the restaurant, eat the food, they're like, Oh, this is a pretty healthy business. But there's this giant looming debt that they've, that they've used in a lot of ways in a really corrupted way to get those businesses to where they're at. And it's like the entire used to say those five restaurants were, you know, the restaurant industry in a certain area. It's like that industry almost has to get wiped out and do you have to come back in there because there's no way they could possibly get out of that debt trap that they've created, you know, except printing more money, but then printing more money kills the money supply, which means that to kill the money supply, you're have inflation going up, which means that the Fed's gonna raise the rates again, the raising the rates again is gonna actually gonna kill the bond market, which is where the banks have a lot of their money, which is going to kill the banks through the bond market. It's like this, it's like this death spiral.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:02

It's like this dollar death spiral. I mean, that even though it's kind of more like a third grade edge, you know, approach, is that kind of how it's it's looking?

Todd Callender: 01:03:11

That's exactly how it's looking. Mean, it really is a vicious cycle, you know, whatever solution they provide actually hurts something else and the solution to that hurts something else. It's like that old Austin Powers movie, and there was a big fat guy and he said, I'm fat because I eat and I eat because I'm fat. Well, my life is terrible. And and it is.

Todd Callender: 01:03:30

Right? I mean, this the everything is connected. And the bottom line is we have so much debt. Debt is the Achilles heel of any economy. Because here's the thing, if we lived centered lives and didn't have debt and a borrower is a slave to the lender, right, who cares if interest rates get to 30% or more?

Todd Callender: 01:03:52

If we don't have debt, it doesn't impact us directly, but that's not the reality. The reality is consumers are in debt up to their eyeballs. The municipal government, state governments, the federal government, corporations, banks. Banks have derivatives debt, is leveraged debt because just regular debt isn't good enough, so they have to have multiplied debt. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:04:11

I mean, this is this is the problem, and this is why the outcome isn't gonna be pretty, but there is hope. There is solutions. And if you're not a digital slave in their digital world, right, and you get out of the system and you have tangible assets that you can trade back and forth with, grow during inflationary pressures, right? It's like, look at what look at what silver has done over the last six months. In September, it was seventeen ninety seven announced today.

Todd Callender: 01:04:40

It's like 23. Oh, man, that's up 28% in six months. Average that out, annualize it. That's 56% annualized growth. That's incredible.

Todd Callender: 01:04:51

Right? And everybody's walking around in fear because they think all hope is lost. It's like, no, you just need to know where to look. Even in a great stock market year, somebody would say, it's a really good return. Right?

Todd Callender: 01:05:03

This is where you can have a smile on your face, be in the right place at the right time and thrive even though our freedoms are eroding, our finances don't need to erode with it, but you just need to act. You need to know where to look. You need to know how to do it, which is what we specialize in. Because as I look at this news, it's like, oh, if there wasn't a solution, would have lost hope too. And sadly, so many people around the globe are thinking that there's no solution, and it's why they're losing hope.

Todd Callender: 01:05:35

And it's why there's wars, there's rumors of wars, and why there's depression and mental health disorders everywhere. It's like people just need to look for the hope in this situation. And there is one. And that's what we can help bring to them.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:52

And so, can folks best get ahold of you, Kirk?

Todd Callender: 01:05:58

Just you've got a link.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:00

GoldwithSeth.com. GoldwithSeth Com. I mean, your phone number. That's the

Todd Callender: 01:06:04

easiest way to do it. It's right there under this video, right? GoldwithSeth.com. So, go there, fill out your information, and one of my scheduling team, which I've got like, I don't even know, fourteen, fifteen of them. I mean, there's a lot.

Todd Callender: 01:06:20

Right? They will ask you questions about what it was Kirk and Seth talked about that caused you to want to reach out. What are you scared about? What are your hopes? What are your dreams?

Todd Callender: 01:06:28

What is what is not being fulfilled? Because that'll help them. It puts you together with one of our advisers for a free consultation, either myself or one of my advising team. And then with that, we'll start to map out a strategy for success for moving forward. That's a free consultation, you know, or you can simply call us [phone].

Todd Callender: 01:06:49

That's [phone] and say, Seth sent you. Right? Either way works just fine. But these are the most perilous times that we've ever seen. We're slammed.

Todd Callender: 01:07:03

So if we don't get you called back the same day, just wait a couple of days, we will get back to you because I understand full well these are treacherous times. I want you to be protected as soon as possible, but we've never seen this kind of an influx of demand. So but we will get back to you in, seventy two hours, get you scheduled for an appointment with us, and off to the races you go with a smile on your face because you're protecting and preserving and taking advantage of this situation rather than the situation taking advantage of you.

Seth Holehouse: 01:07:39

Great. Well, you, Kirk. And as usual, it's just wonderful to have you on it. And we're going to start doing these economic updates more often, shorter bits more often because it's just the situation's changing daily. And I felt like that, you know, before just doing one show a week, this doesn't really cut it.

Seth Holehouse: 01:07:54

So, thanks for making yourself available and thanks for doing what you're doing.

Todd Callender: 01:07:58

My pleasure.