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My back does not appreciate that at all.
Was it worth it?
No, not at all.
No, no.
I mean, I've got some stories.
Oh, you have some incredible stories.
Acquiring minds want to know,
well, we'll just tell you what it was.
Getting old, this is what
they say about getting old.
It's not necessarily graceful.
I'm talking to the
lady that's in an e-brace.
I know, like
stereotypical, like old couple.
I don't enjoy running at all.
They had to drag me off the
floor as I'm like whimpering.
And I'm laying there
for like 20 more minutes
because I can't move.
No, I laid there like a limp dead fish.
That day was the greatest thing.
They gave me laughing
gas, I got a shot, but yeah.
That couple's in trouble.
Did you know it?
The physics of being
nine months pregnant,
bending down, trying to, you know,
they're all about you
and taking care of you.
Hello?
Yeah, I totally stole
your show that night.
I mean, I did get a
medal of honor for it.
You did, you did.
You got that gold medal.
Gold star.
Hey, Jesus.
Yeah, praise Jesus.
Ha!
You're not gonna win this.
Yeah, yeah.
We're both smiling at
each other because I think
that's one of those
things that you believe
that you help a lot.
And then there's things
that we pay people for.
And then there's things
that we pay people for.
Which gets longer and longer.
You ran head first into a moving car.
Yes.
My brother, which just got hit by a car.
I still think it was a sabotage.
Someone cut his brake
line, his brake line.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a pretty wicked scar.
Isn't that always how it happens?
It's always how it happens.
It's always the one more time.
And it is a gash that you could measure.
And I was like, I will
go with a little master.
And I've been there for a while now.
It's like when I was younger.
So for the record, don't do this.
Don't do this.
Just, you know, I was like, what?
And I, 2008, believe it or not, was a
really long time ago.
Yeah, I mean, and that's bad,
but I think her
justification, even after the fact,
that's almost worse.
Blase about it.
I just wanted you to
have a dose of reality.
And who gave her, who,
I mean, who named her?
Don't you dare have a positive attitude
going into something that
could just ruin your life.
They got a name for that lady.
Aww.
No, I'm coming.
Oh, yeah.
I'm gearing up and I'm coming.
I will get you.
Megan's back to back
to back to back to back.
You are a very important person.
A Blensingney-Burner incident.
Once in Burners, I lost
my eyelashes, by the way.
I don't know what that
means, but that sounds dangerous.
Well, that don't go well together, right?
Because we're idiots, right?
I, you know, I got away with it.
One was super fun.
That was the Halloween blizzard.
Yeah, we couldn't even
see out some of our windows
because there was just too much snow.
Yeah.
The actual temperature
was negative 36 degrees
and the wind chill was
negative 66, I think.
We were wearing heated
apparel at this point.
Randy.
Randy.
I can't put my arms down.
Aww, if you have a
doxy, they hate snow, so.
We're not on the same page all the time
because you're not
necessarily finishing my excursions.
There you go.
That one works.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
and keeping life together in
the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
How did you know it was
episode 11 so quickly?
Episode 11 so quickly?
Yeah. Well, last week was episode 10.
Oh, okay.
Seriously?
Yeah, I haven't been counting, I guess,
as well as you have.
When I do the video,
when I put the things up,
everything's episode 10 or
episode 10 teaser, episode 10.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'm very aware.
You are.
Episode 11, yeah,
we're into double digits.
It's crazy.
Wow, yay, we made it.
Yeah, great stuff.
Well, welcome everybody, episode 11.
Episode 11.
That's right.
Well, I know we, if you
see me looking uncomfortable
and squirming a little bit if you're
watching it on YouTube,
I know you can't tell when,
maybe I'll groan a little bit or whatnot,
but we were taught, I
left you last week saying,
"Hey, it's spring."
And we're gonna start
cleaning up for spring
and doing some of this.
Well, I was yesterday.
You were, you worked
outside a lot yesterday.
Yeah, I got a lot of
some weed pulling going on,
some of the weeds,
cleaned up some of the bushes,
trimmed up some of these
trees and stuff in the backyard.
But the long and the short of it is,
my back did not appreciate it.
No, it did not.
As much as you appreciate it
and I appreciate the house looking nicer,
my back does not appreciate that at all.
Was it worth it?
No, not at all.
No, no, no.
I feel terrible for you.
I mean, you've been
plagued by back spasms
and herniated discs and
all of that for years now.
Well, yeah, but I mean,
I had it under control.
It was really from my
early 20s to maybe my early 30s
because the last real bad one was the
night bear was born.
Yeah, uh-huh.
We know that story pretty well, but yeah.
No, I mean, I didn't know
what it was for the longest time
and I don't know if it was
just because I stopped playing
so many sports and I
wasn't stretching as much.
But I think the long and the short of it,
the root cause is just lack of
flexibility in my hamstrings,
which causes back spasms kind of.
And this isn't just your
run of the mill back spasm.
I mean, I've got some stories.
Oh, you have some incredible stories.
And this is also, a lot
of people would probably,
they see you stretching.
You stretch a lot.
All the time.
Especially soccer games on the sidelines
where you've been standing
or sitting in lawn chairs,
which aren't great support.
And I don't think anyone's
ever really asked you like,
hey, why are you stretching,
like in the middle of just everyone?
Yeah, it's not my gymnastics career.
No, no.
So for those of you who have always,
inquiring minds want to know,
well, we'll just tell you why it's
because of the bad back.
Yeah, I hate to say it's bad back
because now that I
know for the longest time,
I didn't know what it was.
So I do have a couple, what is it?
Bulging discs.
I've got a couple degenerative discs.
So I do, I have got some
back issues in the future
that are gonna really kind of come to,
it's gonna come to a head at some point.
That hasn't yet.
I've also got another
issue in my neck now too,
where I've got a pinched
nerve in my neck through my spine
because that's, now
that's another new issue.
Getting old, this is what
they say about getting old.
It's not necessarily graceful.
I'm talking to the lady
that's in a knee brace.
I know, like one
simple fall on a ski slope,
like not doing anything crazy.
Yeah, I know, we are at
like the just stereotypical
like old couple with these injuries,
which is ironic because
you especially work out,
you keep it loose, you went for a run
right before you were
out doing yard work,
which really helps your
back most of the time.
That's why, that is why I run.
I don't enjoy running at all.
I know some people love it and whatnot.
I do like getting out and
it's nice in the morning
and the sun and the birds
and all that kind of stuff.
I do like that, it's in then,
but it's mainly to keep my back loose.
So I have to stretch, I
have to get at least a run
in every other day to get my back loose
or else I get these back spasms.
But to my point earlier,
I've had it under control
for 10 years now, almost 15 years now.
This is kind of the first
time, and I'm not bad right now.
It's just tweaked just
slightly, but more so than usual.
I don't know why this time is worse,
but I mean, I've been,
I used to always do it
playing basketball after,
now this is just in my 20s.
So this is after I was done
on actual teams and whatnot.
So I'd be playing pickup
games at 24 hour fitness
or something like that.
But I remember one
time I went up to jump,
to get a rebound or something like that,
and I felt it the second I jumped
and I literally came
down crashing to the floor.
And again, these are
not just run of the mill,
like I'm gonna limp around back spasms.
These are back spasms
that I'm literally yelling,
whimpering in public
on the basketball floor.
They had to drag me off the floor
as I'm like whimpering, like grimacing.
Because it's, I mean,
it is, it's full body.
I mean, outside of my kidney stones,
this is by far the
worst pain I've ever had.
Oh, yeah, well I remember.
You've had them now.
Yeah, at once.
You had something
similar a year ago or so?
A couple years ago, yeah, it was awful.
It was awful.
And I remember saying, I'm
like, I hate that you have it,
but I'm glad you have an
idea of what I went through
back then because I
mean, I remember at CSU even,
I had this one of the first times
and I was just on the couch,
they got me back to the couch.
I have to have people.
So literally to finish
that 24 hour fitness one,
they dragged me off the
court of basketball court,
which is a pickup
court, you know what I mean?
Like all these guys who
don't know each other,
they're like, get the guy off the court,
you know what I mean?
Like what is wrong with this guy?
Writing the chalk around you, apparently.
Yeah, well no, they
dragged me off the court.
I'm a foot off the line now
and I'm laying there
for like 20 more minutes
because I can't move.
I cannot move anything in my body
and if you've ever done this,
you know everything
runs through your back,
your posture, your core,
all that kind of stuff.
So moving your neck,
moving your head anyway
goes through your core.
So I literally cannot move without it
sending just a shock
of the second worst pain I've ever had
and it's lasting.
So I laid on the side of the basketball
court for 20 minutes.
Like I can't only imagine
what those people thought.
They didn't know you.
What is that guy doing?
Well, especially if you're
playing with like older players
in your 20s and
they're looking at you like,
you're in your prime,
man, what's going on?
It's not like I got off the court
and went and sat down on the bench
and you know, I was
just putting my head down
and like just taking a
moment to catch myself.
No, I laid there like a limp dead fish
on the side of the
basketball court for like 20 minutes
till finally I think
somebody like went and got a manager
or maybe I asked for that.
Right.
Like I need help.
I gotta get home now.
Cause I can't walk.
I can't move, let alone walk.
I drove there.
Long story short on
this particular event,
I've done this badly
during that 10, 15 year period.
Yeah.
More than a handful of
times, maybe less than 10,
but I mean the bad, bad,
I've tweaked it a million times.
Right.
But the bad, bad ones like this one,
I was in Kansas City at this time
and the manager of 24 hour fitness
Uh huh.
And three other guys
carried me to my car,
put me in the backseat of my car.
The manager had have somebody follow him
as he drove my car 15
minutes to my apartment
in Kansas City where
they then had to drag me
up to the stairs and lay me on the floor,
my third bedroom apartment building.
What?
Where I had a roommate at the time
and I laid on that floor sweaty, right?
I had been playing basketball.
Oh yeah, yeah, you're not clean.
For two days, for 48
hours, just grimacing in pain.
I tried to like wash
myself with like a wash rag
because I was sweaty.
Yeah.
And now it's all dried on me,
but I cannot move because
the back spasms are so bad.
48 hours into it, you know,
at the time I was in college,
I was, you know, I worked at
like the Cheesecake Factory
or something stupid.
Not stupid, but just what
you do when you're in college.
Right.
You know, I had three
jobs at the time probably,
but I didn't have medical insurance
because I'm working all part time jobs
to work around 20 credit hours.
You know, now I'm a non-traditional
student at the time.
So, you know, I'm just
trying to make things work.
Don't have, it was so bad.
Well, I'm also having to use the restroom
in the middle of the
floor of the family room
because I can't get to the bathroom.
I literally did not
move from that position,
just writhing in pain all
night long, all the next day.
So I called an ambulance to come get me.
They gave me laughing gas.
They took me down the
stairs in a stretcher.
So when I have these things,
and if you've ever had them, they're bad.
Horrible.
And I don't know, I think everybody says
they have a high
tolerance, pain tolerance.
I have a high pain tolerance.
I mean, I can't feel, whatever.
I have a high pain tolerance.
Yeah, yeah.
These bring me to my
knees, not even to my knees,
prostrate to the ground
for hours, days on end.
So I figured out that laying down on them
was the worst thing I could do.
Yeah.
Like that day was the greatest thing.
They gave me laughing gas.
I got a shot in the butt.
I mean, yeah.
(laughing) So like adrenaline
and all kinds of stuff.
But staying active,
staying loose, walking on it,
trying to keep it loose is what helps.
So if I kept the cameras rolling
after I sit here for 40
minutes and then try to get up,
it would be pretty funny.
It'll look like I'm 98 trying to get up.
Oh, we should try that though.
I'll go for a walk.
We're gonna have to go for a walk, yeah.
And then watching you
get up and you're...
Oh man, you all are gonna be like,
that couple's in trouble.
But you know it now,
because when you did
it, I remember being like,
see, you can't put your
socks on, it's impossible.
You gotta bend your neck, everything.
Well, I say, so I've really only been
through one of these.
I think one of the really bad ones,
we were still living in separate cities.
And so I wasn't there to
see all the nitty gritty.
But I jokingly say that you're the reason
I went into labor with our first one,
our first child,
because you were getting ready
to go to work that day
and I was very pregnant
and you couldn't put
on your socks or shoes.
And so I had to help you
put on your shoes that day.
And just, you know, the physics of being
nine months pregnant,
bending down, trying to
help a man put his shoes on
was probably enough to send me into labor
because I went to the
doctor and they're like,
yeah, you should probably stay here.
You're welcome.
Yeah, yeah.
But then you poor thing, you
had to walk with me for hours.
You know, that's what you do
when you're in labor, you walk.
Yeah, you literally
went into labor that night.
So to make sure people go,
and everybody that's had a kid knows it,
like they tell you,
like, you're not quite ready,
do some laps. Do some laps.
And at one point you're
like, I gotta sit down.
And being a good
supportive husband, I'm like, well,
I mean, obviously I can't
just like send my pregnant,
my nine, my literally giving birth
and the next 24 hours
wife on her own out there.
So I mean-- You walked with me.
You were faster than me.
I'm dragging a leg.
You were, you were.
And then, quite
literally, as I'm giving birth,
the nurses are like, do
you need a place to sit, hon?
You know, they're all about
you and taking care of you.
Very concerned about me.
And like making sure
that you're comfortable.
And I'm like--
As I'm standing
bedside, but trying, you know.
Trying to--
Standing straight up
on a hard floor though,
is the worst. Was really, was the worst.
For a long period of
time in the same spot.
Right, which the first is
always a very long process
to get that baby out.
So I just remember being like, hello.
I totally stole your show that night.
It was pretty funny.
Yeah, as you gave birth.
Yeah.
They're more concerned
with my pain than yours.
Well really, because they
see the pain that I had,
they see that all the time.
And they're like, she's gonna be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably true.
She's fine.
This is just the process.
Yeah.
But this guy, he's in a lot of pain.
You were probably white as a sheet.
I don't really, sadly,
I don't really remember
your face being pale or whatever.
I remember being very
conscious of the fact
that you were in pain and
that this was a sacrifice
for you to be like--
It's going too far,
it's saying sacrifice.
Well, yeah, yeah, it was very--
I was in pain, it was uncomfortable.
I was probably grimacing.
I mean, you do what you do.
Anybody else would
have done the same thing.
Oh yeah.
I mean, I did get a
medal of honor for it.
You did, you did.
You got that gold medal.
Gold star, no, I didn't.
And that's why I always
laugh in church, right?
When you have to stand and
sing during the worship period.
I'm swaying back and
forth because I cannot stand
straight up on a hard surface.
Yeah, well I just thought it was
because the spirit was moving you.
Well, that's what I was going with this.
I think people behind us think,
oh man, that guy is into it.
He's got the sway going on.
The spirit is in him.
Praise Jesus.
Praise Jesus.
(laughing)
Holy.
Can I get a witness?
Yeah, no, that's me
keeping my back loose.
Yeah, well, because it's a cement floor.
You're just trying to keep it loose.
People that know know.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, it's, and I
don't want to do it again.
It was, my day's a
bit, I guess pulling weeds
and bending over all that
kind of stuff in the backyard.
It's got to come to an
end, I'm getting old for that.
Yeah, or at least a shorter duration.
It would have been helpful
had I been able to help you.
I don't have that bending radius yet.
I mean, I've pulled quite a few weeds.
I can help.
So we could get twice the
work done if I were to help.
Yeah, we're both smiling at each other
because I think
that's one of those things
that you believe that you help a lot in.
No, no, no, I wouldn't say I help a lot,
especially since we've moved here.
I haven't done any yard
work since we've moved here.
It's a big property.
So it would be a shocker
if you actually got out there and helped.
Yeah, I haven't
pulled weed, you're right.
I pulled weeds though at
our house down the street.
Yeah, I don't, I will make sure I say
you pull more than your
weight at this household
that in no way, shape or form say that.
You're lazy about that.
You're busy doing your
own stuff the whole time.
We've always been really
good about divvying up things
and generally speaking, that's one
you don't have a lot of time for.
You don't have a green thumb,
so it's nothing that you enjoy.
No.
But I always get a laugh at it.
Every time you do it,
you've done it for 20 years
that I've known you like,
oh yeah, let's go do weeds.
And I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
I think in your mind,
you're doing more weeding
than you really actually are.
Like springtime, I think I would help,
but it's like the
weeding is like a three season
out of the year kind of a thing.
You gotta keep up on it.
And you gotta keep up on it.
And that's where I fall off.
Like I'm like all gung ho
those first couple really nice weekends.
I'm like, let's pull
weeds and let's mulch.
And then I'm like, okay, we did that
for two, three weekends, I'm good.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not one of those things
you can just kind of be over.
I'm over this one.
Right, right.
It's like, oh, I did
laundry two months ago.
Two months ago.
Do it again?
Yeah.
Yeah, you imagine?
Yeah.
And that is, I mean, I'd be interested
how our listeners kind of
divvy up chores in the house.
Like we have, we kind of
have like a pretty clear line
of like, these are the things you do.
These are the things I usually do.
And then there's a few
things that we do together, but.
And then there's things
that we pay people to do.
And then there's things
that we pay people to do.
Which gets longer and
longer and longer every year.
And now.
It's gonna get even longer.
Well, it's gonna get even longer, yeah.
We're gonna get some
people to weed for us.
Fantastic.
It's just, you just put
more things on that list
until you're in an old person's home
and you're paying people to
help you go to the bathroom.
That's just where it ends.
And we're about halfway down that list.
We are.
Oh man, if they start
helping us go to the bathroom,
we're in trouble.
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't, yeah.
Well, cause we've tried
to have our kids help.
Help with what?
Like some of the.
Let's be clear what we're help.
Not going to the bathroom.
Not going to the bathroom.
Gosh, they've never, no.
But like the weeding,
wasn't it a couple of weeks ago,
I was, where was I?
Cause I can't really go outside.
You were probably weeding, helping honey.
I was, yeah.
You know how much you like to do that?
Such a help on it.
Such a help.
You had the kids doing
hard labor outside though.
Just a few weekends ago.
I honestly don't remember where I was.
Well, our oldest is still
paying off from the hood,
the $600 hood that we had
to replace on somebody's car.
Quick side note story here.
Eight months ago, our oldest is blazing
down a little hill
right next to our house,
literally 300 feet down the street.
It's a hill down to a T intersection
that to one side is a
cul-de-sac and the other side,
I mean, it's not heavily used.
No, it's not.
Especially from the cul-de-sac one.
No, no.
Long story short, I mean,
when do we teach our oldest
to look both ways in crossing the street?
I don't know.
I think that's been a standard rule
since he learned to follow directions.
Yeah, I think so.
Most kids know that by
the time they're walking.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyways, he didn't do this on a bike
and he ran head first into a moving car.
Yes, he did.
On the street.
He went over the handlebars, landed.
He's fine, a little scuffed up.
Hopefully learned a lesson.
Yeah.
But bent in the front wheel of his bike
and same thing with this person's hood.
Yep, so we agreed to help with the cost
of the hood of the car.
Of course, our youngest is traumatized.
I don't think he's
ridden his bike since then
because he watched the whole thing.
That's always a very unsettling thing
when your youngest
comes home and is like,
my brother just got hit by a car.
It doesn't help the same hill.
A year earlier, he went
down there and his brakes--
Oh, the little one.
Veiled, yeah, our youngest.
Why he was already
traumatized by that hill.
Yes.
And that just took it to the next level.
And he hasn't gotten on his bike since.
Early's gone down that hill.
His brakes failed going down
and he ended up getting
stopped by the trash cans
when we're out.
I still think it was a sabotage deal,
but someone cut his brake lines.
Insurance money or something.
They went out and he
just went straight in,
yelling straight into the--
I mean, actually,
thank God it was trash day
because he ran into some
big plastic trash cans.
Trash cans instead of a brick house.
At full speed going
down that little hill.
So anyways, yeah.
And we've had some trauma in our family
because that's where my
scar on my chin came from.
Most people can't see that,
but I had 11 stitches before they knew
how to do stitches back in the day,
so I still have a nice scar on my chin.
Yeah, it's a pretty wicked scar.
And that's from riding a
bike down a hill one more time.
My mom's like, "Hey,
we're going somewhere."
And I said, "One more time, of course."
Ran down the hill, little jump in the--
Isn't that always how it happens?
It's always how it happens.
It's always the one more time.
Yeah, I was trying to do
a jump at the bottom of it
because it was a nice
little dip down there.
Not only did I catch air,
but I jumped off my bike
same time, landed right on my chin.
Wow.
I can't remember if
that was 11 or 14 stitches.
I had a couple.
Yeah, and that's a pretty wicked one.
Our youngest has had the same--
They've gotten better at stitches,
because his little--
He had half the
stitches, but he has no scar now.
He has no scar. Already.
Or, I mean, it's right.
You can't see it.
And it's-- Yeah.
Yeah, his was just,
someone landed on him at daycare.
I remember, I get a call from daycare,
and they're like, "You're gonna have to
come pick your son up.
Like, he needs stitches."
And I'm like, "Show me a pic."
I'm thinking that
they're overreacting, right?
Yeah.
I was like, "Can you
just send me a picture?
I'm on my way, but can
you send me a picture?"
Yeah.
And it is a gash that you could measure.
And I was like, "I
will go a little faster."
Yeah. But that one was pretty--
He wasn't doing anything bad,
or his friend didn't mean to hurt him.
Yeah, straight down to the tile floor.
Yeah, straight down to the tile floor.
And what, four years
old, three years old?
Yeah, three.
Yeah, three, three.
He was still up there.
He was, yeah.
Yeah, because the poor kid,
as he was getting stitches,
he's like yelling, "I have a gold potty."
And he was like
strapped down at that time,
and literally she was sewing,
and we were like, "Just
go in your pants, buddy."
And he was, yeah, poor kiddo.
Was that how they made him do?
Because I wasn't there for that.
Where was I?
You were with the two older kids
out in the waiting room, yeah.
Oh, I'd got there, I showed up late.
You showed up late. And I was with them.
That's right. Yep, yep.
And you were inside there.
Yeah, so I think you were just,
you were man on the
fort with the other two.
I felt so bad.
Well, they've come a long ways on that.
We were talking about, just today,
you're looking at your incisions,
and I don't think
you're gonna have any scars.
No, it'll be so, within three years,
I will have zero scars.
Maybe in a year, I'll have
just these teeny tiny ones.
I mean, the surgeon was saying,
he's like, "I like to
channel my inner plastic surgeon."
And he gave me internal sutures.
It's like, I don't even
have external stitches.
So this is one of those things, again,
we're getting to that age where,
and I've been there for a while now,
it's like, when I was younger.
(laughing)
This could be a segment,
this could be a segment of the show,
recurring one, like, "When I was younger,
"we didn't have this, we did this."
But does anybody get staples anymore?
Do you know?
I think so.
People do get staples, okay.
Well, I mean, I think so.
Because I've got all these
scars on my lower legs, right?
That's what ended my college career.
I call it a career,
but, you know, I mean,
it ended my college
playing basketball days.
Yeah, yeah.
Was I had surgeries
on both my lower legs.
One of them, a nerve was
cut, and there was an issue,
and there was a long-standing medical
follow-up after that.
But because of that, and there was
exploratory surgeries,
they'd go and reopen
it multiple times, but--
It makes me knee hurt
to even talk about--
I remember when they opened it up
for the big exploratory
one, trying to fix the nerve
in my lower leg,
they used staples to close it up,
and I had like 20
staples going down my leg,
and it's like, I got a big
old nasty scar from that now.
You do, mm-hmm.
I mean, do they not think
of that kind of thing then?
Or is this, because it was a different,
no, I was the same doctor then.
I ended up suing this guy, I mean,
it's not like I didn't
make any money off of it.
I did, but such a minimal
amount that it was ridiculous.
For losing my basketball scholarship,
I never played again
after that at a high level.
At least, organized.
I have permanent nerve damage down there.
And now I have a nice scar from it too.
That was a big tangent there too.
When I was young,
they still used staples,
and they didn't care about cosmetic,
not having a big old scar,
because I've got scars
all over from the few times
I've had either staples or stitches.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And I don't know, I think
they do use staples sometimes,
but I think there is,
medicine has progressed to a point
that they don't always have to.
I mean, I remember even
when our youngest cut his chin,
it was such a clean cut that it was like,
well, maybe they can
glue that close, you know?
And I was too wide.
(laughs) But yeah, it's amazing what they do.
Yeah. Like, I don't know.
I mean, I know my sister
had similar surgery to me,
and she has a massive scar on her knee.
I was just gonna bring that up, yeah.
I don't know what
extent of her injury was,
but I know yours, you know, you checked
at least three boxes
of things that had to be
fixed while they were in there.
Yeah, yeah, and she had two,
but I mean, she has a big old scar.
Yeah, they opened her up. Mm-hmm.
So, five little incisions for you.
Yeah, and again, I
don't know how much more
or less damage, but
still, it's just crazy how,
well, and even when I
was talking to someone
about this surgery, this person told me
it was the worst pain
she's ever had in her whole life.
She's like, "I've had
multiple surgeries."
So for the record, don't do this.
Don't do this.
This person still
thinks she's in the right.
Like, I just wanted to
bring you back to reality.
Yeah, because I was like, "Oh, you know,
"I'll probably, I'll
be fine, it's all good."
Part of it was I kept saying
these things for my own self
because-- You were staying positive.
I was trying to stay
positive and because--
Try not to freak yourself out.
Right, like, because I don't know.
It's scary enough going into surgery,
even if it is a routine surgery.
There's a lot of unknowns, and so I was,
I kept being positive
for my own self to be like,
"I got this, I can do this."
She's like, "It was the
worst pain I've ever had.
"I've had multiple surgeries.
"I've never felt anything this bad."
And I was like, "What?"
And I did ask her at
the time, I was like,
"When did you have this done?"
She was like, "2008."
And I was like, "Okay, that
was a long time ago, 2008."
Believe it or not, it
was a really long time ago.
And so I'm like,
"Well, medicine's probably
"come a long way, I hope."
Yeah, and that's bad, but
I think her justification,
even after the fact, that's
almost worse of what she said.
I know. Tell them what she said.
She's like, "You were
just being so positive
"and so blase about it, I just wanted you
"to have a dose of reality."
And who gave her, who,
I mean, who named her
the reality queen of America?
I just need to make sure everybody's feet
are on the ground here.
Don't you dare have a positive attitude
going to something that
could just ruin your life.
What if they cut an
artery and you lose a leg?
It's happened.
I mean, you got a name for that lady.
Aww. Aww.
Debbie Downer.
Jeez, I mean, I know.
It's just--
That bugged me,
though, that somebody took it
upon themselves to be like, "You're just
being too positive."
Yeah.
"I need to give you a dose of reality,
"bring you back down to the--"
Yeah, because it honestly sent me to--
Because it changed the way you thought.
It made you nervous again.
I was terrified.
In that instant, my
instinct was to call and cancel
and make up some excuse to cancel.
Now, logic pulled through and I was like,
"You can't do that.
"That's absolutely stupid."
But for that split second, I wanted,
my reaction was to run and avoid.
Because it scared me.
But anyway, it is what it is.
But I mean, yeah, I think the injuries
have just, I don't
know, hopefully we can,
hopefully your back
isn't, it doesn't seem to be
one of those high watermark,
super, super horrible ones yet.
But you're definitely uncomfortable.
Yeah, I'm uncomfortable.
It's one of those things where, I mean,
it's gonna go one way
or the other, right?
And sometimes you just don't know.
Sometimes another little
tweak just sends it over the edge
and then it's two weeks till
your back to moving normal.
So I will ask though, what is worse,
back spasms or kidney stones?
Kidney stones.
Yeah, okay.
Kidney stones are the worst.
I mean, the last time I had them,
I think I said to you in one of those,
and it was like, it took me
four days to pass these ones.
And I remember saying like,
I can understand why people just wanna,
if you're in the worst
pain you've ever been in
for an extended period of time,
I literally said, I can see
how people might just say,
I'll call it a day.
Like, it's been a good life.
And I wasn't ready to call it a day then,
but I mean, because I
knew this would pass.
But at that moment I was like,
I can see living in
that kind of pain for,
and at that point it
had just been four days.
It had been four days.
So I mean, I was short of 100 hours
of just pure, exhausting pain.
That was rolling.
Don't get me wrong, it was rolling,
but it was rolling, I mean.
It was, I mean, it was crippling.
We saw it.
It was crippling, yeah.
So no, back spasms, I don't wanna pick,
I don't wanna have to
pick one or the other, but.
I was just curious.
Not even close.
I mean, they're
terrible, don't get me wrong.
Both are awful.
I mean, back spasms, you know,
on a level of nine to 10 are a 10.
Yeah.
Kidney stones are a thousand.
A thousand, yeah.
I wouldn't want either.
Or wish them on my, well,
I probably would wish them
on my worst enemies.
Only the worst of the
worst enemies though.
Worst of the worst.
The worst of the worst.
We were talking about
things that we don't,
that we don't have today.
Yeah.
That we do differently
when we were younger.
And one of those things
that we had just this week,
which was scary for us,
was there was a
lockdown at one of our schools.
Yep, yep.
And we didn't, you know, I
didn't even know about it.
I didn't even get the
email or the notification.
You did, so at least you
knew about it real time.
I did, although I think the,
I didn't really think
through it all the way
because it said, you
know, this type of lockdown,
here there was activity in the area
is how they phrased it in the email.
Okay.
And so I'm like, okay,
nothing is at the school.
And that, you know,
classrooms are teaching
and everything is resuming as normal.
It's just, we don't let
anyone in or out of the school.
Yeah.
What I failed to connect the dots to
is that our daughter
was outside at athletics.
Yeah.
And so she was outside the school.
Potentially near to the
perimeter of where it was.
Wherever it was.
Yeah, and I also
failed to appreciate that
the coaches and
teachers that were outside
with the children at
athletics probably had less context
than those that were in the school.
Yeah.
Because there was
something going on the intercom
or something.
And so I think there was, not I think,
I know based on my daughter's,
just based on her explanation
that it was chaotic and scary.
Well, she said that
they're yelling, run, run.
They're trying to get
them inside the school,
into the locker rooms.
When somebody says that, I mean,
literally it was on the
national news, I think,
but just two weeks ago,
some of our daughter's friends
were at a cheerleading competition
where two dads got into a fight
and were yelling back and
forth and something fell.
Right.
In there.
Right.
And when it hit the
ground inside this gym,
or a cheerleader,
gymnasium, wherever they were at,
it sounded like gunshots.
It wasn't, but it sounded like it.
And there was stuff,
social media was on the news,
all of our people ran for their lives.
Yep.
And I just, the different, my point was,
we grew up in an age where,
we did not grow up in an age
where, at least where I lived,
where that was
something we had to live through
or worry about, code reds.
And we tell our kids, I
mean, how sad and scary
is that you have to tell our kids,
like, if it's true, you're in a code red,
like, I'm sorry, but you need to be in
the back of the room,
don't be in the front row, play dead.
You need to text me.
If you can do it safely, quietly,
put your phone, you know what I mean?
Know that dad's coming.
I mean, after we saw what
happens in some of these places,
in Yuvaldi, in Texas, stuff like that,
if these first responders
aren't gonna take it serious,
and I mean, I get it.
I don't wanna see
anybody lose their lives.
No.
But if that's your chosen profession,
and you're sworn to
protect, you better protect.
Yeah.
At risk, because you
know that's part of the job.
Yeah.
But I told my kids, you
know, like, know I'm coming.
Oh, yeah.
I'm gearing up and I'm coming.
I will get you.
Well, and I think some parents did.
And that's why I didn't know about it.
So I was a little mad after the fact
that I didn't even know about it.
Yeah, and I, because it was, you know,
it seemed innocuous, and
that it was precautionary,
and me not making the
connection, like, hey,
you know, she's outside.
Still think of text to me in the future.
Yeah, is like, hey, did you--
Just so I can be, at
least I can stay on top of it.
My schedule, Megan's back to
back to back to back to back.
You are a very important
person when it comes to work.
So--
No, I just have a lot of meetings.
Yeah.
That's my job, to do meetings.
Yeah, and, but you've got to,
when it comes to something like that,
you gotta at least let me know, right?
I'm sorry that you're meeting.
I know you guys are
solving the world's problems
in that particular meeting,
but our kids are way
more important than that.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it--
So I've gotta know about that.
Yeah.
So that I can stay on top of it,
because I just have a more flexible
schedule than you do.
I can look it up, I
can, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
If it's really that
bad, I'll drive over there.
When I looked it up and
there was nothing, I mean--
There's nothing all day long
once I found out about it.
And there was like, there was something
on Keller neighborly--
There was a bomb threat is what it was.
Yeah, there was a bomb.
At the church next to it.
But, you know, to bring this back around
to more silly things,
I mean, like the things
that we got evacuated for
school, it was never for that.
I don't ever, I mean,
Columbine obviously was the first time
and that was well after.
Columbine was crazy too,
because it was in Colorado
and I had played basketball
in that school many times.
That's crazy to me.
So I had been to that
school, obviously not my school,
but I had played basketball up there.
And so I was aware of the
school, I had been there.
Yeah.
And that was where the
first big one happened,
school shooting happened.
Yeah.
But that's just, that's a new world thing
that you gotta find a way to fix.
But, you know, when we
were younger, you know,
we got let out for much
stupor stuff, you know,
we read evacuate or whatever.
I remember one time in science class,
I was actually the one
that caused the school
to evacuate accidentally.
Me and I think his name was Paul,
and I will all leave
last names out of this.
(laughing)
But we were in science class and like,
do they still have
beakers and stuff like that?
You know, test, what was the--
Oh, like the Bunsen burner.
Yeah, the Bunsen burner.
Bunsen burners are how I lost my
eyelashes, by the way,
which you don't believe me that,
but our youngest has
incredibly long eyelashes.
Yes.
And I used to, I used to
have comments on my eyelashes
until unfortunately a
Bunsen burner incident.
(laughing) Yeah.
They, it singed them off.
They're blonde because
they were singed for a while.
I blonde one.
That's crazy.
And then they've just never
grown back to that extent.
Yeah.
So again, another failure of mine,
I lost my L'Oreal scholarship there,
my chance to go professional with this.
I know, you could have
been an eyelash model.
Eyelash model. (laughing)
Anyways, long story short,
we ended up putting
something like sulfur nitrate
in sulfuric acid or something like that,
these little black
nitrate, something like that.
I don't know what that means,
but that sounds dangerous.
Well, A, we're in
seventh or eighth grade,
so don't give us, maybe ninth grade,
because I went, my junior high was
seventh, eighth, ninth,
but don't give us two elements
that don't go well together, right?
Because we're idiots, right?
What?
So for some reason, we thought,
whether we did it right or
wrong, I don't even know,
maybe it was innocuous or whatnot,
but we ended up putting
the nitrate into the sulfur,
the acidic, whatever it
was, I don't even remember now,
but I just said it.
And it created the worst smell
you have ever smelled.
I mean, it was like
rotten eggs, but on, you know.
(laughing)
I can't believe you were not a
troublemaker growing up.
No.
But you made the school evacuate.
I did, yeah.
Because it smelled so bad,
not because you set a fire or--
It must have been ninth grade,
because this was honors biology or
something like that,
now that I think about it.
Probably chemistry, even.
Honors chemistry or something like that,
but this was an honors class, and I
remember my friend Paul,
he took the hit for it.
He actually got kicked out of the class
because of it.
What?
Yeah, and I think that's
just because I was maybe
a little better well-known at the school.
Just, you know.
Really get a little
preferential treatment there?
Yeah, I mean, I was
in student government,
I was in yearbook, I was, you know,
I was voted best of this,
certain things, you know,
so I was a known quantity at the school,
and I, you know, I got away with it.
I mean, I did, I fessed up to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I didn't get--
You didn't get the consequence.
I didn't get any repercussions for it, right, exactly.
That's hilarious.
I wonder how they got the smell out,
or did it just reek for a long time?
We ended up going
back in after two hours,
but we were all outside, it
was a great break, it was fun,
but it reeked.
It was horrible.
That's hilarious.
See, we were never
evacuated for anything.
I mean, we had snow days that
would close down the school,
but we were, I don't, I
think we were ever evacuated,
and for the record, there
were only two snow days.
I went to school primarily in Minnesota.
Okay.
A couple years in Chicago, but for the
most part, for all--
Good snow in both places.
Good snow in both places,
but there were only two,
and in all those
years, and we have, what,
at least two a year here in Texas?
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah.
Colorado, we didn't
have very many snow days.
We did get some early
releases and some late starts
because of snow, you know, but--
Occasionally we'd get those.
They're prepared, those
cities are prepared for it,
drivers are prepared for it, I mean.
Texas or something else.
Yeah, yeah.
I do remember, though, the one that was,
one was super fun.
That was the Halloween Blizzard.
Yeah.
That was so fun, and then
my older brother's friend
had to stay with us
because his mom was traveling
and couldn't, she was a
single mom and couldn't come back,
and so, I mean, it was just
like, we got to play outside,
it was warm enough, and we had, you know,
I think we got 38 inches of snow
overnight, or something.
By warm enough, do you
mean it was like negative 20?
It was like 30, it
was, you know, 25 degrees,
and so when you're in Minnesota
and it's snowing in 25 degrees.
Short weather, yeah.
That's like the best.
But yeah, we couldn't even
see out some of our windows
because there was just too much snow.
Yeah.
It was up all over the
windows, but the worst.
They canceled school
because the actual temperature
was negative 36
degrees, and the wind chill
was negative 66, I think.
So if your memory's
wrong, worst case scenario,
you're off by 10 degrees, negative 56,
but you think it's negative 60?
It was somewhere in the negative 60s.
In the negative 60s wind chill.
Yeah, it was.
It's gotta be a
record, that's incredible.
It was incredible, it was.
Did you go outside in
it, just to feel it?
No.
How old were you?
I was in high school.
Okay.
At what year, I don't know, but.
You gotta be such a cracket reporter.
How old were you?
Did you go outside?
What were you wearing?
When your parents...
I didn't go outside because, I mean,
it was so cold.
It was dangerous. It was dangerous, and I remember it was
beautiful sunny day.
I'm surprised your family
didn't go running in it.
Yeah, no.
They pride themselves in running in
the coldest, stupidest brother.
The coldest brother, yeah, they.
We're gonna go for a walk.
We used to go there for Thanksgiving,
and they're like, it's negative 20,
or it's negative five
with the wind chill,
it's six actual, and they're like,
does anybody wanna go for a walk?
Well, and they all live in cold climates,
so that's like normal.
I know.
And we're like, no.
I know.
It's the same family that
made fun of our kids, though,
for not knowing how to make a snowball.
It's like, my kids
have never been in snow.
This was before we
went skiing and all that.
Yeah, they had never seen snow before.
I wasn't happy about that comment.
I'm like, really?
Anyways, but they, yeah,
some people forget that
it's not normal to be in negative 66,
or negative five all the time,
because our blood down
here definitely thins.
It definitely thins.
I mean, if we're out at the sidelines,
and it's anywhere close to,
anywhere between 30 and 50, I mean...
We're wearing heated
apparel at this point.
If there's a six on it, there is,
because the wind's cold.
Yeah, it's cold here.
I mean, some people
would think that's crazy,
but it gets cold here.
What's that kid's name
in "The Christmas Story"
who's wearing so many--
Randy.
Randy, yeah, I am Randy on the sidelines.
Yeah.
All the time.
I can't put my arms down.
Yeah, but I'm warm.
And I look like a fool,
because I know I'm just like state puff
marshmallow man out.
I've got, there have been times
I've had upwards of
seven or eight layers.
Yes, you have.
On the top.
And I've had one, two, three, four,
I've had up to four
layers on the bottom at a time.
Yeah, yeah.
Normally it's two, but one
of those is fleece lined.
Yeah, yeah.
So that technically
should count as two, but yeah.
Good self, yeah.
I remember one our daughter had,
and that way we both
had our ski pants on.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I don't know
why it feels colder in Texas,
at like the same
temperature that they have all over.
And you're like, gosh, in
Minnesota, 50 degrees feels fine.
In Texas, it is but cold.
Well, and in Colorado, you can be,
I mean, literally it is
shorts weather at 40 degrees
outside, and a long sleeve t-shirt.
Sun is so hot.
It's incredible.
It's got the best climate there.
Yeah, but that's why we get to go back.
Yeah, we get to go and
enjoy the snow and play in it,
but not have to shovel it.
Because with your back, I don't know
that you should be
shoveling snow either at this point.
Just hire that one out too.
I gotta get some more jobs
to afford all these people we're hiring.
Look, I think it
doesn't snow here very often.
Yeah, yeah.
Like it melts pretty quickly too.
No, we never, well, no,
we've never shoveled here.
We do have a shovel.
We have a shovel.
Actually, I did shovel this last time.
You did?
Remember I had to shovel the walkway
to Paris's little--
Oh, yep, yep.
Potty spot.
Yes, if you have a doxy, they hate snow.
So yeah, we had to shovel the way
and we actually had to shovel off a spot
where she would even go to the bathroom.
Yeah.
She did not like snow.
Well, what do we got coming up here?
We gotta keep this thing.
Let's see, well, it's
a spring break week.
So we'll have, I mean, we're working.
So, you know, the kids will be around.
We'll have to, you know,
find ways to keep them entertained.
But yeah, we're, I don't know.
We got the NCAA tournament coming up.
That's right, we have to
fill out our brackets today.
Fill out brackets, yeah,
selection Sunday as we're recording.
So it'll be, do you have an idea
of who you're gonna put for,
who's in the championship game?
I don't know, you know,
I might've put my money on Duke early,
but they had two injuries this last week.
Player of the year, I think, up there.
He sprained his ankle.
Sometimes that's tough to come back from.
In such a short period of time.
So no, I don't know.
It's not my Jayhawks this
year though, that's for sure.
In fact, by the time this airs,
they may not even be in it anymore.
It was so bad this year.
Possibly.
It's been frustrating to watch.
Hopefully they show up.
Yeah, I think I saw that Tar Heels
might not even make it.
Michael Jordan's armor modder.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, that's a long way.
Has that ever happened?
No, I don't know.
I don't think so though.
They've been low seeds before,
but I don't think they've ever been
in danger of not actually
making the NCAA tournament.
Yeah, they'll end up in NIT.
Yeah.
So I think that maybe there
was one year that did happen.
But anyways, it's always fun to watch.
So we'll have that coming up.
We got spring break.
We're trying to figure out how to,
we're about 100 days out from our
vacation going overseas
and that's taken all kinds of planning.
So we're trying to figure that out.
We're figuring out, we plan differently
for these kind of things.
I don't think we should
show up on foreign shores
with no plans.
Nope.
You're like, oh, we should.
Yeah, I think you just haven't thought
that far down the road yet
that we need to have a lot
of things planned out here.
I have.
I just, I'm not urgently planning it.
No, we need, I wanna
map out some of them.
I think the whole timeline of like,
oh, it's still 100 days.
We still have time.
No, I mean, again, I
use the Disney example.
These hardcore vacationers,
these things have been
booked for millennia.
I mean, those Disney
people are all over it.
There's so many things that
we didn't get to do at Disney
because we tried to do it five months out
and people did it 12 months out.
I think this is kind of the same way.
We didn't get into the steakhouse.
We wanted to get into,
we'll figure that stuff out.
It's one of the few instances probably
that we're not finishing each other's.
Sandwiches.
Sandwiches, vacations.
Vacations.
Sand castles, beach.
I was trying to think how
you could make that come around
to the vacation.
A little bit more
towards what we were saying.
You could try it again.
Excursion, I mean, like we could.
We would just have to--
Finish, you could try it again.
Like, you know, it's
just one of the few things
that we just haven't, we're not on the
same page all the time
because you're not
necessarily finishing mine.
Excursions.
There you go.
Oh, it works, right?
A little bit?
It does, it does.
I like that one.
All right, that works.
Well, let's say goodbye to everybody
unless you have anything else.
No, until next time, everyone.
All right, until next time.
Have a great one.
Bye.
Rock on.