Lunch with the Clydesdale - Ask Me a Question, Reader Comments

Everyday we take a step back from our work day to get a break and hang out with our friends to talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today we pose some questions and take some questions in a slower news week.  What is everyone talking about and what are your thoughts today?

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what's going on everybody it

is lunch time lunch with

the clydesdale tuesday

afternoon what's going on I

was really struggling today

to come up with some things

to talk about on the show

today and I made some stuff

up had some stuff going on

put it in the description

and now I think we're gonna

scrap most of that

Um,

I watched boys interrupted this morning

and now I've got some content,

got some content.

So we're going to go down that road.

The other thing is, uh,

it was announced this

morning that my Chicago

bears signed Joe Tooney to

a two-year extension.

We traded for him this off season,

got him from the Kansas city chiefs.

He is considered to be the

best offensive guard in football.

And now we have signed him

to a two-year extension.

So we have him for three years.

And that is awesome.

I'm really excited about

this year's bear season.

I was excited last year and

got thoroughly disappointed.

I'm hoping this year is much better.

The other thing about today

is I hopped on here and

StreamYard actually worked

correctly today for the

first time in like a week.

So that's good news, right?

So that only means that

today's dart throw has got to be good.

It's got to be.

So here we go.

If you guys saw where that land,

you would laugh your ass off.

Oh my gosh.

So I have a shelf.

I have a shelf below the

dartboard where I put like

markers and stuff for a

whiteboard to like keep

track of everything.

I hit the front edge of the

shelf with the dart and it

is sticking right out of the front.

Yeah.

Terrible throw today.

Jody Lynn says,

is Tyson Bajan still with the Bears?

He is.

And I actually featured an

interview with him on

Friday's show right off the top.

He actually brought up

CrossFit in an interview

with a local Chicago sports

guy that does sports radio in Chicago.

Brought up CrossFit as his workout style,

what it means.

He described it.

Great ad for CrossFit.

Talk about the kid preaching

what CrossFit is and what

it's done for him in his life.

It's pretty freaking awesome.

But he is still there.

They love him there as their

backup quarterback.

But he's starting to gain

interest from other teams.

So I don't know what that means for him.

So...

I hope I would like for him to stay there.

But my other hope is that

Caleb Williams actually

turns out to be a great

quarterback as well.

And then it's a good problem to have.

But but he is still there.

He is still their backup quarterback.

But yeah,

there's actually talk in some of

the local circles that the

Bears are trying to assign

him to an extension.

He'll make a lot more money

than he did on his rookie contract,

but I have not seen where

that is or where that

stands at this point.

Corey says,

if you look up good dude in the

dictionary, there's a picture of Tyson.

He's a good dude.

It was a great interview.

Being a Bears fan and just

overall his optimism for

everything and the way he

looks at things is really, really cool.

I really just enjoyed it.

It was about thirty five minutes long.

If you go back to Friday's show,

I quote or I show the video

so you can actually see

where I got it from.

But it's only thirty five minutes long.

Super quick.

And you can check that out there.

It's actually called Recap, R-E-K-A-P.

And it's David Kaplan is a

sports radio guy on ESPN,

one thousand in Chicago.

And he does a podcast on the side.

Clark says,

given how few quarterbacks went

in this draft,

you might think some teams

would be interested in Bajent.

They actually talk about

that on that show that I used on Friday,

that the New Orleans Saints

had contacted the Bears

about the availability of

Tyson Bajent because of

Derek Carr's retirement.

And they don't really have

much in the quarterback category.

room and they they did draft

a quarterback this year but

they did contact him about

being the starter uh and I

don't and I think the bear

said no so there is

interest in him and there

is interest in him being a

starter in the league but

we'll see where that goes

so the first thing I wanted

to show real quick today

and this isn't really what

we're going to dive into

but I wanted to show this

I went to the CrossFit game

site because yesterday in

Dave's week in review,

he said there's going to be

a big announcement today.

So I've been watching to see

what that might be.

Still nothing on the game site.

Um, but I wanted to show this.

I thought this was really, really funny.

Um,

so I go here and I click on the story

just to make sure nothing is going on.

And I don't know if you guys can see this.

This is advertising for

twenty twenty five CrossFit

Games tickets.

And the video they use is an

athlete who has chose to

sit out the twenty twenty

five CrossFit Games season.

I'm sure you have video

footage of athletes who are

actually participating in

this season to sell your tickets.

This is Jack Farlow with his

big lift at the Games two years ago.

It is a heck of a lift, Halpin,

but you're advertising a person.

It be like...

It'd be like the Bears

advertising season tickets

with a picture of Mitch Trubisky.

It just doesn't make sense.

I mean, I don't know.

That's just a thing I wanted to show.

I just found it very

peculiar that of all the

video footage you have in

the history of the CrossFit Games,

I am sure that people that

are participating in the season,

people who have already qualified,

you could use in the

promotion to say whatever.

I don't know.

Andrew Sten says,

maybe they did it to say we

can use you in advertising

our event that you don't want to go to.

I guess.

Hoppin says, oh, I get it.

I have an article that was

supposed to come out today,

and I purposely didn't use

non-games competing athletes.

I think if you want to be

topical and you want to

talk about the season,

you should use athletes

that are competing in the season.

It just makes sense.

I mean,

it's not like this huge error that

is going to cost them their

business or whatever.

It just seems like a little

bit of laziness or I don't know.

The quality checks on these

things you would think

should be a little bit

better than they are.

Aaron Frazier says maybe

there's NIL deals for

CrossFit Games athletes.

Yeah.

NIL has spread from college

football to the CrossFit Games season.

But as of yet,

the big announcement that's

supposed to come out today,

I have not seen anything on

any of their socials.

So still waiting to see if

anything comes out from

that announcement today.

And that was something that

Dave said in his week in

review yesterday.

And it seemed to be pretty

big because he wanted to go

into aspects of whatever

this is going to be.

And he kept stopping himself.

So it doesn't seem like it's

a simple thing like the

lifting shoe is now the

official lifting shoe of

the CrossFit Games like we saw yesterday.

It seems like a much bigger

deal that's going to be announced today.

So the other thing I wanted

to talk about is Will Morad

was on with the Boys Interrupted.

And...

And they actually talk about

something we talked about

last Friday when people in

the comments here were

saying that they didn't

like the WFP because

athletes were quitting.

And so in The Boys Interrupted,

Dallin actually speaks to

this exact thing of

athletes quitting during the WFP.

And so I want to share this.

So here we go.

Again, this is Boys Interrupted.

You can go to their YouTube

channel to see the full

interview with Will,

but I'm going to do a

little recap after this.

I think some of the craziest

comments I've seen is

people saying that we're

going to show up to these

events and not try.

There's no incentive to do

well because there's the

minimums on contract, all of those things,

and I promise you,

The last thing we want to do

is show up and lose to any

guy that's on the floor.

And two, there are incentives to do well.

Yes.

Trust me,

the last thing I want to do- The

reason you're not out there

is because you think that

that's a possibility that

we would show up and let someone beat us.

Yeah.

I mean,

the last thing I want to do is-

Stay out of my comments.

Will these two dudes the

next day listen to them

beating me in a competition?

Yeah, I don't know.

It's important not to read too much.

Dude,

you're crazy if you think I'm just

cashing a check.

I love beating these boys.

So they all speak to there's

no way they're quitting on the field.

They want to win every event.

And...

And that there is,

there's too much

competitiveness between them, uh,

that money has no factor

into this at all.

Um, and so I find that, uh,

I thought that was really

cool because Justin Kotler

jumped into the comments on

Friday and said that, you know,

these athletes would run

over their grandmother to

win a game of checkers.

Um,

And so I like that they kind

of answered to that in kind

of a comical way that they

want to hear the BS from

the other people that they lose to,

and they want to beat each

other so bad at every competition.

Aaron Frazier says,

Bethany Flores mailed it in.

There are more competitive athletes.

I think Bethany is an

outlier in this case.

Bethany got hurt.

It seems like it's bigger

than we know about.

If you look at her social

media and her YouTube channel,

she actually did a long

video about what happened,

but she has not said what happened.

And I think her idea was

that she still wants to

compete for a pro card,

and right now her body just won't do it,

but there was a way to go get some points,

and then hopefully her body

would be ready by tour stop

two to then take whatever

points she could earn and

move forward into the season.

But that's like a

reoccurring thing with Bethany.

It happened at Rogue.

It's happened at the games.

They're just...

So, yeah.

But the idea that people

come in the chat and say

that Laura quit on that

last overhead walking lunge,

there's no way in hell that

woman would ever quit anything.

If anybody's going to run

over their grandmother to

win a competition, it's Laura Horvat.

And her body just gave up.

She just couldn't.

She missed on the last step

of one of the lunges,

and then she kept trying to

rush it when she wasn't ready,

and her arms gave out.

Halpin does make a good

point here that there is an

incentive to do well,

but there's also an

incentive just to show up.

You get two seventy season

points for showing up.

You get zero if you don't show up.

So, yeah.

And I think that that that

is what happened with Bethany.

But I think if you are

healthy and you are there to compete,

you don't want to lose.

Aaron Frazier,

she blew up like she did at Wazza.

She did.

And maybe that's a training

thing because this has now

happened at two events in a

row where on the last event,

she was unable to finish in a way.

She lost to Lucy Campbell on

the last event at

Wattapalooza after having a lead.

And then she loses on the

overhead walking lunge

because she can't get the

twenty five feet in without

dropping the dumbbells.

Corey Leonard,

you've never heard anyone say,

I used to have a bad back.

I feel Bethany is saying

what Bethany is saying,

but she may be done.

And so, yeah, I, uh,

hope not I think that

bethany is the most

talented athlete to never

podium at the games because

her her back has just never

let her do it um and it's a

shame because what I saw at

west coast classic in I

think it was she was as

good as anybody at that point

And it's just a shame that

her back has failed her

time and time again.

And as someone who has had

as many back procedures as I've had,

I empathize with her in a huge way.

So...

So there we go.

Haley Adams got a zero.

Now the most Haley can get

is fifteen hundred if she

sweeps the next two.

Anyone getting zero is

behind every pro and

challenger for a pro card,

as is McQuaid and Kyra Milligan.

Well, Kyra, Kyra was a challenger.

She wasn't in the pro division, I believe.

Um,

but she did take a zero instead of

taking whatever that was.

But anyway,

so I wanted to go over a couple

of things that Will said in

this interview,

because I think it

contradicts some other

things that we've heard.

And it just goes to show you

that there's two sides to every story.

And probably neither one of

them are a hundred percent accurate.

There's probably something

in the middle that's more accurate.

And so they were talking

with will on there and the, and the,

and the boys, Dallin, Jason,

and Justin were doing a lot

of comparisons between

CrossFit and the WFP.

And one thing they said is

that they felt listened to, um,

during this,

which they don't always feel

like that is the case with CrossFit.

Uh, when they bring things up there,

sometimes you don't get a response.

They said they used one

example that Pat Felner,

a lot of times in an athlete briefing, uh,

when they're told that they

cannot do something and he'll say,

what happens if I do it anyway?

And they just say, don't do it.

And there's no real answer

as to what happens if you do.

in this case at the wfp they

were told those things or

they changed the rule to

allow it if they couldn't

come up with a good reason

to not allow it they did

will talked about why

things why the feed was on

their website as opposed to

um youtube and it's because

If you watch the feed, you saw commercials,

which we never see on the CrossFit feeds.

Like there were Stri-V ads,

there were Adidas ads,

there were a lot of different ads.

And they can control that on

their own website.

They cannot control that in YouTube.

And so they were actually, I'm assuming,

getting paid for those ads,

or there was a deal done

for those companies to get those ads,

and they couldn't do that

on the YouTube platform.

They did say that they

realized that there is a

big problem with not being able to rewind,

and they are working on that.

The reason they could not

rewind is because of the AI

translation problem.

but they are looking at

doing an English only

version that you can rewind

for tour stop two.

Will also said they had

about a half a million viewers.

I don't know if there's a

way to confirm that because

it is self-contained and on

their own website.

There's no way to really see

if those numbers are in fact true.

Um, they did,

will did say that the

lighting at the event was

done by the world wrestling entertainment,

WWE.

Um,

they brought them in to give it a

different look, to give it more of a,

like a theatrical look to

the whole thing.

Um, and that's what they did.

And the,

the boys on the show said that

they actually did like the

lighting and some of the

effects that happened.

Um,

especially when the lights followed

them down the floor, uh,

to follow the storyline.

Um,

And they did not speak to

the jerk itself in the

lighting that has been

brought up a couple times.

So there's that.

And then he also answered

the question as to,

was there a meeting set up with CrossFit,

as Dave had said on his

Week in Review a week ago,

and what happened there?

And that is that there was a

meeting set up

will was it was will was not

the point of contact for

that meeting but he was on

that initial email the

world fitness project

according to will wrote

back and said could they

reschedule because they had

some people out of the

country at the time that

the sit down was to happen

when they sent that email back

Will never got another email

back on anything, but then again,

he was not the lead person.

So he can't speak for sure

that CrossFit never got back,

but they did say that they

did ask for a reschedule.

And Will said,

I never heard another word

from that point forward.

And he also said that Dave

never tried to reach out to

him personally, but when asked,

would they do that?

Would they do, um,

and a sit down.

Will said with the pending

sale of CrossFit,

what's the point in going

and having a long

discussion with the people

that are there when if they sell,

it may not be the same

people there in a few months,

which I thought was

actually a pretty excellent point.

Why would you meet with

people if they're not going

to be there in a few months?

Um,

And again,

we don't know what's happening

with the sale.

We don't know who's gonna be retained.

We don't know who's gonna be let go.

And so I do kind of

understand when you're trying,

when you're busy trying to

put this thing on for the first time,

why would you waste time

having conversations with

people that may not be a

factor when it comes to that?

Andrew Sten says in CrossFit's defense,

you don't want to have a

negotiation with athletes in a briefing.

Yes, there should be some set penalties,

but often athletes are

looking for ways to skirt the standards.

The other thing that I think

the WFP did differently is

that they released the event,

the events three weeks ahead of time.

So there was plenty of time

to ask some questions

before the briefing to get

some things ironed out

before the briefing happened.

And I think that that was a good thing.

And they also let coaches in the briefing,

which isn't always allowed by CrossFit.

It's the same reason many

athletes ask judges when

they walk out what they should be doing.

Yeah, that should never happen.

As a judge,

you're told not to tell them anything.

And Corey, of course,

doesn't follow the rules.

Yeah.

The judge is not supposed to

clarify anything out there

that that should be done by a head judge.

Has the jerk been brought up

by any athlete that competed?

I have not heard a single

athlete talk about the lighting.

And Andrew, this is what we're taught.

And Corey,

that is why we tell judges to say,

do what you were briefed.

Athletes are briefed in the big briefing.

And right before the event,

I tell judges to be a jerk

and shut down questions.

Um, Aaron Fraser,

I don't think that athletes

are the only opinion that matters,

but I think in this point where they were,

Will was talking to athletes.

So you're getting, um,

he was getting feedback on

what they felt was going on

with the WFP and what their

reactions was from the athletes.

But I do know that they also

asked spectators, they asked volunteers,

they asked other people.

And I know that Dallin even

brought up in one of his

suggestions that the

community event seemed

forgotten about back in the corner.

And that I guess they are

going to work to get the community event,

at least a few events on

the main competition floor for Mesa.

so um the way I took coaches

and briefings was they are

allowed that they are

allowed just coaches to go

to the briefing meaning

athletes weren't required

to sit through them if they

wanted to leave um

think what the the guys were

referring to is sometimes

at the games the coaches

are not allowed at the

games briefings um and I

and I don't and I think

I've heard dave say that

there are times that they

want the athlete to be able

to make their own decisions

without it without a

coach's um input but I

don't think that tests anything

If you're going to be more

of a pro-ish style sport,

then athletes are going to have coaches.

That's just what's going to

be the case and why.

But I know in tennis,

like you're not supposed to

be allowed to talk to your

coaches during a tennis match.

Once you're out on the floor,

you can't really talk to your coach,

but that's tennis.

So.

dry your dagger telling my

kids I won the first ever

WFP community events since

there will never be any

proof or any eyewitness

testimony to say I didn't.

I'll clock correct me tennis

does allow it now.

Yeah.

What?

And maybe like I just been

around too long and too

much stuff is cluttered in my head.

I think it was a two

thousand sixteen games when

they went to Aromas.

They took the athletes but

didn't allow the coaches to go.

So when they went to Aromas,

they didn't have in the ranch.

They didn't have the coach

with them to help them kind

of figure out what was

going on on the fly.

And that was intentional by Dave.

So maybe I'm just

remembering too many things.

But that was what was said by Jason,

Justin, and Dallin.

And nobody quibbled with it.

So I don't know what's going on there.

um d reed says in individual

sports the onus is on the

athlete to know the rules

and what to do yeah but

anyway I thought it was

just an interesting

conversation to kind of

hear what will had said

especially about uh the

communication with crossfit

and whether they

And the reason why they

wouldn't meet with them now

until the sale is done,

that made a lot of sense to me.

I don't know.

I think it's a cool concept

what they have going on.

And I know that I'm probably

in the minority.

I do like the season

structure that they have.

And so, like, I'm all in for that.

So...

Anyway,

what else do we have on the docket today?

I saw an interesting, well,

I was watching dense

updates this morning and

she brought up an

interesting conversation

about teams that.

at the regional level or at

TFX's last weekend,

the vibe when the pro teams

were on the floor was

higher than when the

individual athletes were on

the floor because the teams

draw more people from the

affiliates to the event.

But then when we get to the games,

the stadium empties when

the teams hit the floor

because everybody's there

to see the individuals.

And so that brings up like a conundrum.

Do we need the teams to

actually fill the stands on

the way up to the games?

And then because they helped us get there,

we can't ignore them once

we get to the games.

And I thought she made a great point.

I remember back in the regional days,

the teams were well attended.

It was as loud for the teams

as it was for the

individuals because they

were associated with an affiliate.

The affiliate would drive to

the regional event and they

would cheer their asses off

for those people because it

was more the people that

they worked out with on a

day-to-day basis.

And it seemed like that's

what happened at TFX.

You had big crowds going to

TFX just to see the teams

and root on their friends

than there was in an

individual field where

people were from all over

the western part of the North America.

And Aaron says,

that's the difference from

regional teams and

communities versus super

teams not connected to the communities.

I think you're right.

I think that back then the

affiliate teams were a big

part of regionals because

they did bring in the crowds.

That's when the regionals

were way more attended than

anything that we have done

in the past five years.

I think hearing the teams

themselves on what would work,

I was cheering on local

teams even though I don't

go to their gym.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I know in two thousand

sixteen when the regionals

were here in Columbus,

two local Columbus gyms

were in the in the race for

the last spot to go to the games.

they were like fifth and

sixth place it was crossfit

grandview and uh cross our

friendship crossfit and the

place was going ballistic

when they were on the floor

because it was the two

local teams trying to vie

for that last spot to the

crossfit games and it was

so so loud and the funny

thing is the guy on

crossfit one of the guys on

crossfit grandview that

year was joey tutoro who is

colton's coach now

But it was insane.

Insane during those events.

Coda had five teams there.

They did.

Imagine how many people that

draws in from Coda.

And I know there's like

three or four different

locations of Coda.

So... Yeah.

I just...

I think she's right.

I think that we do need to

kind of bring back the teams into these.

If we're going to keep the

in-person qualifying events,

maybe teams should be

included in that to get a

spot or two to the games.

why not?

If, if,

if TFX is going to hold a pro

division for teams,

syndicates holding a pro

division for teams,

why not give them a spot or

two to fill for the CrossFit games?

It only makes sense, right?

Like,

They're already doing it.

Why not put the legitimacy

on it instead of an online

version with no video

review and just trust

everybody that's doing it?

D. Reed,

this is why belonging to an

affiliate matters.

I would include that for individual.

The games has to be a

showcase for the affiliate

and the community.

And then, I mean,

I do have to jump off here

because I do have a one o'clock meeting,

but, um, but why,

what happens if what Matt

Sousa said is right this

week and Berkshire decides

to sell off the,

the games portion of

CrossFit to this new group

out of Texas who may only

want to buy the sports side

and not the affiliates.

If that happens and there's

no connection with the community,

we're in trouble.

We're in trouble.

And that can be a longer

discussion tomorrow when I

have Corey on or on Thursday.

But it seems insane to me

that that would happen.

I don't know.

Uh, Aaron Frazier agree.

Look at the crew Haley

brought to semis when she

was at the affiliate in Virginia.

Um,

I would argue that Haley brings a big

crowd wherever she goes in semis.

And even if she's back at mayhem,

that's still an affiliate and they,

they ride deep there too.

Um,

Austin Hatfield brought a huge number

to semis last year, Austin and Haley, uh,

Their crowds were so big

last year at the affiliate, for sure,

at the semifinals.

D. Reed says,

the sport without the

affiliates will die.

That's my fear.

That's my fear without the

connection because...

And that's where I think

like the WFP might get the

upper hand if this does happen,

because they're

establishing a tour that

isn't necessarily community based.

And maybe it will be easier

for them to move forward

than whatever they're doing

on this other side.

And again,

I don't know what the plan is to

do with it.

Um,

I've heard some rumblings on

the wp stuff that they

already have lined up that

could help them sustain

things and move things

forward uh but none of that

is confirmed so I don't

want to really dive into

that too much I I think

that splitting the

affiliates and the crossfit

games is a huge mistake and

I wasn't always a thinking

on this side um but I do

think so now for sure

that it's got to get back

somehow to a

community-based event a

t-bird the sport is

different than it once was

it's sport not affiliate

crossfit it is but the

affiliates are what filled

the arenas back in the regional days

And when we've moved to a

different concept, we lost.

We lost the crowds.

And somehow we've got to get them back.

And if that means that you

have to find a way for

people to come root on their friends,

we've got to figure that out.

Got to figure that out.

But it all comes down to

like having a plan.

Um, and I'm,

and I'm not sure that CrossFit

has sat down and had a

long-term plan in a while.

That just, it has.

And I talked about that

Sunday night a little bit

at the beginning.

I just watching welcome to

Rexham and watching how

they sit down with their

group and have a plan.

I don't think that CrossFit

has had those discussions.

Denise, I feel if the sport gets spun off,

then I don't see any reason

for affiliates to do the open.

You're probably right.

The sport cannot sustain

itself without the affiliates.

I agree.

Especially if it's just

another private equity firm

coming in and taking it over.

Like they're not going to

invest enough money into

the sport to create something new.

Because they're there to make money,

not spend money.

CrossFit doesn't get to

decide who they sell to or

at least full control.

Selling for parts is very risky.

It is.

But that is the decision of

Berkshire right now.

So everybody's just waiting

with bated breath to see

who is going to win the

bidding war for whatever is there.

Aaron,

they're just holding on because they

don't have a real leader.

Well,

it's hard to tell who the leader is

because you have this

private equity firm that

really does own them.

And they're the ones who

make the ground rules for

what the CEO can do.

So that really handcuffs the

CEO in what they want to do

on the day-to-day life.

The CEO is just the

public-facing figure that

takes all the heat.

But the rules come from the board.

I mean, we can't forget that.

And they say what can and

cannot be done going forward.

Not that WFP is for sale,

but if you look at what's

been said about TPG,

why would someone buy

CrossFit Sport versus WFP?

I don't think they should.

unless they see something in

it that we don't.

And from what I understand,

TPG is buying up a lot of

niche sports to put together.

And the only the only like

parallel to that that I can

see is like the extreme

sports category with what

Red Bull TV has done to

make a lineup of these

niche sports in the extreme

sports category that they

can air on their Red Bull channel.

throughout the day and then

they create a conglomerate

of stuff that together they

kind of support each other

and it seems to me that tbg

is trying something in that

vein um but I don't they

were only created a few

weeks ago so to understand

what their plan and their

process is and what they're

trying to do we are way too

early in the game to figure all that out

Love, welcome to Wrexham, and I do too.

I can't wait to dive into

the rest of the season.

Good point.

Red Bull TV was talked about

a lot at WFP and Indy.

Yep.

That's what I call a breadcrumb, Mike.

That's what I call a breadcrumb.

As I look around, that's a breadcrumb.

Just saying.

But anyway, I have got to go.

I've got a meeting in about

four minutes and I've got

to get changed into my work clothes.

So with that, guys,

thank you so much for being here.

You knuckleheads get back to

work and we will see

everybody tomorrow on

Cooking Up Cajun with lunch

with the Clydesdale.

Bye, guys.