RED ALERT: America's Marxist Revolution is Nearing the Point of No Return -- Xi Van Fleet Interview

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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

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Seth Holehouse: 01:31

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say something about you that I think that you are different than probably 99% of the American population. And how? Because you understand a simple fact that America is undergoing a communist revolution right now.

Seth Holehouse: 01:53

You can see it. You're following this. You're following this show, but I'm sure you're following a lot more information. You understand what's really happening. That all this division, all the chaos isn't just a coincidence, isn't just something that's accidental.

Seth Holehouse: 02:05

And so I'm so honored to have joining us today, Shi Van Fleet, who is a woman that actually went viral at a school board talking about the communist tactics she was seeing being taught in her local school, but someone that actually lived under communism in China, survived the Cultural Revolution, and is now a powerful voice here in America for how important it is for us to reject communism and defeat this specter that's really wrapping its tentacles around our country. So this is gonna be a really important interview. And look, folks, if you have friends or family that you've been trying to talk to about what's happening in America, this might be a good interview to send them because it's not really too partisan. It's really looking at just the core fact of that, look, there's one enemy of America and it's communism, and if we're not careful, that we can end up like, you know, China after the Cultural Revolution and see great loss of life and a great amount of suffering here in our beautiful country. Before we get started, folks, just wanna let you know that if you enjoy listening instead of watching, you can find every episode as a podcast as well.

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Seth Holehouse: 03:33

A lot of great hosts on there. You can find me there as well. Alright, folks. Let's go ahead and jump in this interview with Shi Van Fleet. Shi, thank you so much for joining us on the show today.

Seth Holehouse: 03:43

It's an honor to have you here.

Xi Van Fleet: 03:45

Thank you so much for inviting me to your show.

Seth Holehouse: 03:48

Oh, absolutely. I first came across you on Twitter and thought, wow, this woman's quite incredible. Someone that grew up and survived the Cultural Revolution, is now living in America that has you've got an incredibly strong voice for opposing communism and pointing out communism and really trying to help the Americans, especially, I think, realize how much of a grip that communism has on our country. And so I I was following you, said, okay, I've got to get you on the show. So it's it's just good to have you here.

Xi Van Fleet: 04:20

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Seth Holehouse: 04:22

So can you just start with giving us a little bit of your backstory?

Xi Van Fleet: 04:26

Yeah. I grew up in China, and I spent my first twenty six years there. And when I was in the first grade in 1966, That's when the culture revolution started. And it last for ten years after I graduate from high school in 1975, and there's nothing, nothing for us and for the urban youth. So, like, of others, I were just sent to the countryside to get our so called reeducation from the peasants.

Xi Van Fleet: 05:05

And there, I did hard labor and under primitive condition for three years until after the Cultural Revolution and Deng Xiaoping took over power. He was supposedly a reformer, So he normalized a lot of things, including reopen the universities. And that's when I was able to go to college at the age of seven 19, which was not too bad because I we I only had ten years schooling because Mao want to cut it short so that he he could produce the socialist successors faster. And during that ten years, I lost two years because school were shut down when the culture revolution started. So I basically had, like, eight years of schooling, and the majority of it is indoctrination.

Xi Van Fleet: 06:01

So finally, I was able to go to college. And after and to study English. And after that, I was able to be given, not to get, but to be given a job, to work in a teacher's training college where I met American teachers. By then, you know, in early nineteen eighties, Americans started coming in, and one of them become my friend, and she helped me to obtain student no. Assistantship.

Xi Van Fleet: 06:36

And so in 1986, I got my student visa, and I was able to come to United States for my graduate study. And I've been here since.

Seth Holehouse: 06:48

And if I'm correct, you went to Kentucky. Right? Right? In the very middle America.

Xi Van Fleet: 06:54

I know. And that's the first place, and I consider Kentucky my hometown because that's where I met my husband. And and and his family is all from there. So that's my American hometown, Kentucky.

Seth Holehouse: 07:08

And so coming, you know, from the being in a Chinese communist controlled school. Right? Being indoctrinated, being taught a a really a a false version of a lot of the history. What was the contrast like between your education in China versus your education at university in Kentucky?

Xi Van Fleet: 07:31

Well yeah. One of the first thing that it hit me is that I actually have to do some thinking, You know? Because my whole education in China is basically memorizing and then take a test to make sure that I memorize everything correctly. Very seldom that we our study or our schooling education involved thinking, not critical thinking, just thinking. That was absent.

Xi Van Fleet: 08:03

So coming here, and we have to write paper, and you have to pick something to write a paper about. All this is decisions, and all this takes some thinking and eventually critical thinking that was foreign to me. And, absolutely, my whole experience in China was told what to do, told what's correct, told what to think, and told what I can speak about. And that was a really that was my first, like, culture shock and making choices and making choice for so many things. Everything in my life here, I have to make a choice what to food to buy and the brand of things.

Xi Van Fleet: 08:52

There is, like, nothing. You were giving a portion of a ration, you know, during the cultural review. It's everything was rationed. Even toothpaste, we never get to choose. We're just glad to have what's given to us.

Xi Van Fleet: 09:09

Not free, but at least a a a ration that you were able to go and use that ration coupon to buy toothpaste, to buy cloth cloth. We there's no ready made clothes. You buy cloth, and everyone has allowance. And then you have the cloth, and then you go to tailors and then make your clothes. And the choice is hardly anything.

Xi Van Fleet: 09:36

And if the color the overwhelming color during the Cultural Revolution is gray, black, and an army gray. And so it's a sea of gray, and we all look alike and because that's the only thing we have. And people just don't understand what socialism is about, And it's just really it's young people that really, really bothers me. And that's why I really want to educate them because they never never taught here in school. And then in general, the American public, they and they never know what it is like to live under communist.

Seth Holehouse: 10:17

And so being in America now, you know, I would say over the past, really, three or four years, especially, it feels like that we've taken a very sharp turn heading into a lot of, you know, communist way of living here in America with a lot more government overreach, a lot more, you know, executive power being wielded like a weapon. And so, what being here in America at this stage in history, what are the similarities that you see here that were reminded you of what it was like living under, say, Mao and living under communism in China? I mean, would you say that America is still an extremely free country, or are you seeing a lot of the indicators that show us that we're headed down a very dangerous path if we don't correct it?

Xi Van Fleet: 11:02

No. We are loo yeah. We are losing our freedom every day. And, there's a lot I can talk about about the parallels. And, mostly, I tell people the parallels I draw is from the culture revolution because that's what we are experiencing today here.

Xi Van Fleet: 11:20

It is a cultural revolution. It is a Marxist culture revolution, which was exactly, what now launched in 1966, the Chinese culture revolution. What is really the goal of a culture revolution? And it is more than taking power because that's it's more like a Bushwick revolution that Mao succeeded in 1949 to take power from a sitting government using violence and the military forces. Right?

Xi Van Fleet: 11:57

It's not that's not what's going on here in America. It is the culture revolution. And the goal is to really fundamentally use Obama's, term, fundamentally transform a society. Okay. So in China, Mao tried to completely, fundamentally transform China and get rid of all its culture, its tradition, its civilization.

Xi Van Fleet: 12:32

Why? So that he can, once and for all, implement his ideology, which is Maoism, the most extreme version of Marxism, to be the dominant ideology of the land. Same thing is happening here. What they are trying to do is also overthrow the foundation of this country, and that's include, includes our, fund, funding principles, our Christian, tradition, and our constitution. And why?

Xi Van Fleet: 13:10

Because they want to implement a Marxist ideology, and that is the woke ideology.

Seth Holehouse: 13:19

Folks, I've got a quick message for you. Right now, the world is very, very actively going through a process that the experts are calling de dollarization. And look, I've been talking about this for well over a year now, but maybe you're now starting to see it in the mainstream, because they're now talking about it because it's really happening. What does this mean? Well, there's a few factors, but there's two main factors.

Seth Holehouse: 13:41

One is that the BRICS nations, okay, this is Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and a whole coalition, they are actively getting rid of the US dollar. They're stopping their trade in the US dollar, and this is significant because the dollar's losing its status as the global reserve currency and as the petrodollar. This is what gives our dollar its value. But the other thing is that we have an enemy that's within our own government, Biden and his administration, they are actively working to destroy the dollar. And you can see it in their actions that they're not trying to save the dollar, they're actually trying to destroy it because they want to roll out their central bank digital currency.

Seth Holehouse: 14:20

So you have these two forces coming in both the same time working to destroy the dollar because what happens when that dollar gets destroyed? Well, literally, your life savings, if they're sitting in the dollar, whether it's in a savings account or a bank account or the stock market or an IRA or a four zero one k, those savings, that money could literally be wiped out in a matter of days, weeks, even a couple of months. We're already seeing it with inflation, which is gonna be much, much worse. If you're seeing the writing on the wall and you're thinking, what can I do to protect myself? Well, there's a few recommendations that I always have.

Seth Holehouse: 14:56

One is just to make sure you've got your food, if you have land, you know, ammunition, whatever it takes, real tangible assets. But fundamentally, the thing I recommend most is precious metals, gold and silver. Look, precious metals have survived the collapse of currencies, the rise and fall of civilization, and also a big factor in this is that the BRICS nations, their new currency they're introducing to replace the dollar, a lot of experts are saying it will be backed by commodities like precious metals, and so you can see there's gonna be a stabilization, and I believe a dramatic increase in the value of precious metals. Not to mention, look at the back the past six months, we're seeing, you know, 30% plus increase in the prices of silver and gold. So if you would go back and say you put a hundred grand into silver six months ago, it could be worth well over a hundred and 25, a hundred and $30,000 because the dollar is losing its value.

Seth Holehouse: 15:47

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Seth Holehouse: 16:10

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Seth Holehouse: 16:42

Or you can just call [phone] to take action today. And so, when you look around in America, what are some of the indicators that you see? Like, what are the signs that you see in our culture today that that tell you

Xi Van Fleet: 16:58

that? Yeah. First, this is a cultural revolution. Right? A revolution.

Xi Van Fleet: 17:05

You have to have you have to have a conflict. You have to have people fighting each other in in order to have a revolution. So division division is the hallmark of a Marxist revolution, either culture or otherwise. So that is what Mao did in China. He divided the the entire Chinese population into two classes.

Xi Van Fleet: 17:33

One is red. Another is black. And you can figure out what's you know, or which stands for which. Black class is the label for those who were landowners, property owners, or children and grandchildren of the property owners because all their properties, the land were were confiscated and redistributed. And so it's their descendants included.

Xi Van Fleet: 18:05

So those are the black class, the enemy of the state. And so you don't have enough, really. Mao's when he started the revolution, he calculated that there are there are 1% of the population that qualified as his black class, just like Bernie Sanders. And then it's 1% versus 99%. So if you continue that revolution, you need more people.

Xi Van Fleet: 18:35

Right? So, you know, there's no race as a card for them to play. So what he did eventually of course, this is eventually where it's going. It's ideology. So you can be a black class member because you were used to be a landowner or you were the children of the landowner, but that's not enough.

Xi Van Fleet: 19:00

So if you think like a landowner or if you think like a property owner, they call it bourgeois. It really means if you don't follow the the party's narrative, if you don't follow Mao's order closely, now you are black class. So this whole cultural revolution is making more people as into the black class category. And then what to do with the black class? You eliminate them.

Xi Van Fleet: 19:35

You eradicate them because they are the enemy of the state, and that's exactly what's going on here. We still use class. Bernie Sanders still use the 1% versus 99% even though he has become that 1%, or if not 5%. Right? No.

Xi Van Fleet: 19:56

He still use that tactic to divide people. And then, of course, we have race. Right? So we use race to divide people. That's still not enough.

Xi Van Fleet: 20:09

Right? It's not enough. So they have to continue to expand, and that is the power of identity politics. They create identity. They continue to create and expand it.

Xi Van Fleet: 20:23

So it's from race, gender, ethnicity, and sexuality, and whatever whatever, body weight, one's physical ability, all this become a way to give people identity. Once you have identity, you become the bourgeois. No. You become the proletariat. You become the red class.

Xi Van Fleet: 20:50

And so it's the whole thing is to expand this. And then the ladies, of course, is the trans. And so trans, you can just really it's go beyond it's go beyond reality, not just gender. You can trans race. You can trans just about everything.

Xi Van Fleet: 21:08

So that is number one, if you ask me the similarity, is to divide people. So once in America, you your own identity. Okay? And then you become the victim, and you become the oppressed. And then you are in the camp of the the left, sitting them against the the the other side.

Xi Van Fleet: 21:32

And the other side increasingly has become white and and male, right, and cisgender and heterosexual. Those are the archenemy of the enemy camp.

Seth Holehouse: 21:47

It's interesting because as you're describing that, it helps me to make sense of some things in America. So, you know, in in in this class warfare, if it was just 1% on one side and 1% on the other side, it wouldn't be successful. Like, they need to get as many people as possible. Yes. And so, that's why I feel like because if you look again over the past couple of years, everything has become more and more polarized.

Seth Holehouse: 22:14

It's like you're either left or right. There's no more in the middle anymore. Like, they've really gotten rid of the middle because the middle means that you're not embroiled in conflict. The middle means that you're calm. You're watching both sides.

Seth Holehouse: 22:25

They want everyone to be forced into one or the other.

Xi Van Fleet: 22:29

You have to make a choice. Silence is violence. That's exactly what happened in culture of abortion. There's no neutrality for anyone. If you are not if you are silent, you are considered being a resistant, and and then you are the enemy.

Xi Van Fleet: 22:47

So everyone has to make a choice, and everyone, of course, make a choice to be on the safe side, but it's not just we choose to. Because if they think you are not, loyal or you are not, consistent with what they think you should be, back to the black class. So it's exactly what's going on here. So they have to you have to, you have to understand for, you know, the audience. You have to have that in order to launch a revolution, and they have used the same tactic to divide America for a long time.

Xi Van Fleet: 23:23

And now we really come to the point just like what America like during the civil war. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 23:33

And so so one question I do have is that, like, when I look around America, I I personally believe, I think, very similar things that you believe. I look at America and I say, we're undergoing a communist coup. This is a cultural revolution. This is class warfare. That's my perspective.

Seth Holehouse: 23:50

But I think, you know, in that in that way, you and I are probably the 1% or the less than 1% who see what's happening as a communist revolution happening in America. Most people, I would say, the vast majority of people have no idea that there's a this this is part of a communist revolution that's happening. They're just thinking, oh, gosh, you know, the news is really frightening and, well, Trump was very polarizing and Obama was polarizing and, you know, oh, you know, there's Black Lives Matter. They they don't piece it all together. But So the question is that in China, back in China, when the Cultural Revolution was happening, did the people Did a lot of the Chinese know what was happening?

Seth Holehouse: 24:33

Or were they caught up in the same battles and the same thinking as the average American say? Because, you know, we can look back at the Cultural Revolution, we see exactly what it was the whole time. Now, you know, we look back, in hindsight, it's 2020. It feels like, oh, the Chinese must have known they're going through that at the time because we see it so clearly. But were they just as deceived as a lot of the people in America right now and unknowingly either supporting or just not knowing what was really happening?

Xi Van Fleet: 25:05

I think this is a probably pretty common phenomenon that people ask people ask me this question quite often. And I have to say you have to understand that during the culture revolution, the CCP was in power. Not just the CCP. Mao was in absolute power and for and and has been for seventeen years. So they don't use for because of that, they don't have to be that deceptive.

Xi Van Fleet: 25:38

Right? They they they you have no choice to survive. You have to follow the order. You have to make sure you are inside the line and don't ever step out because step out meaning to you is absolutely jail, imprisonment, or even death. So that is absolutely people just don't even think.

Xi Van Fleet: 26:05

You don't have the luxury to think. You just follow because you know the consequence of not doing so. Here is different. Here is their they still don't have power. The whole reason for all this is for them to get power.

Xi Van Fleet: 26:21

So they have to do things that is a little bit different, and they have to be more deceptive. And one of the things they have been doing, which we have to go back to a long time, decades ago, you know, in the thirties, and they have been pushing the Marxist ideology first through the the academia, especially through the teacher's college. They know if you want to create a future generation of revolutionaries or activists, you have to start in school. They have been in control of our school for a long time. And one of the things they did, just like what CCP did, is rewrite history.

Xi Van Fleet: 27:09

Not only they re they re revised the history, and they also omit the important part of the history. What is the most important event in the twentieth century? Well, I think school the kids know about Nazi Germany. Okay, know World War two a little bit, few, very few, knew about the atrocity committed by communist up to I don't know the number. Nobody have the the exact number.

Xi Van Fleet: 27:52

More than a hundred million people die under communist. In China alone, more than eighty million died, killed not by some invent invaders, not by some imperialist or colonialist killed by its own government, and its whole thing is omitted. People have no idea. And that is how they get control of the mind of the people. And where are those people?

Xi Van Fleet: 28:26

Yeah. They are in position of power of our institutions. And so the saying that long march through institution has been so successful. That's why all our institution I would say, oh, there was no exception, is being infiltrated, and many of them have come absolutely full, such as media. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 28:51

You know, it's a good point.

Xi Van Fleet: 28:52

Okay. Go ahead. Yep. I'm sorry. I just want to continue my my my what I'm trying to say is when you don't know the history, you don't recognize what's going on today.

Xi Van Fleet: 29:07

And so when the 2020, the riots and then whatever, when when that was happening, people like me, which is like, this is a culture revolution replayed here. And the people in China, they were saying the same thing on the social media. Of course, they were laughing. They were laughing. They said, oh, now finally, Americans got their own cultural revolution.

Xi Van Fleet: 29:34

They know we know it because we experienced it, and we know that part of history. So this is the reason that Americans don't know. When the communist showed up in the front door, backyard, whatever, they wonder what that was, and that is still a problem, very serious problem in the conservative movement. Many of them still don't recognize that we're not dealing with the left. Oh, yeah.

Xi Van Fleet: 30:03

They they're just going crazy. They cancel culture. No. We're dealing with Marxists. We're dealing with communists.

Xi Van Fleet: 30:12

And that is to me, if we don't get this out and the people start to really understand it, we're not gonna win. We're not gonna win this war.

Seth Holehouse: 30:23

And so that actually goes into the next question I wanted to ask you because for a lot of the people in America, especially in modern America, we have this normalcy bias. Right? This this this perspective that, you know, America's always been like this and, you know, America would never fall to communism. This is America. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 30:43

Like, there's this this perception that they don't even wanna think about the potential of it. But if you look at China, right, you look at the Cultural Revolution, what that led to, what the next steps were, and you look at okay, so say that the same thing is happening here in America, a Cultural Revolution. If the entities and the people behind this are successful with this cultural revolution, what do you think the next steps would be? I mean, if they do gain control, what would America look like in five or ten years?

Xi Van Fleet: 31:17

Well, this is and people I think this is a great question, and I I think more and more people are asking about it. And why? Why are they doing this? Why are they pushing the con cancel culture? And why they're pushing the division?

Xi Van Fleet: 31:33

It's for power. That's why they want to have power. They want to have total control of, the absolute power. And so so so what? So they can control us.

Xi Van Fleet: 31:47

They can control us just like what the communists did to the Chinese people. They can control what we should, what whether we should have a a gas stove, whether we should drive a car, where we should live, and what we should, what kind of information we should get, and what we should think. Same old thing. Same old thing. The goal is to have that kind of power, so reduce us into slavery.

Xi Van Fleet: 32:20

And people talk about slavery. Slavery. Yes. Slavery took place here, took place all over the world and and since the beginning of humanity. But this is a slavery they don't talk about.

Xi Van Fleet: 32:35

Communism is slavery. Communism is all about enslave a whole population to control them and and then do whatever with them.

Seth Holehouse: 32:47

And so looking back at the, you know, lessons from communism, obviously, they achieved the level of control that they they needed in China, you know, you're right about the the amount of deaths. I mean, I've heard eighty million, a hundred million. I mean, the numbers are you'll never get the accurate numbers of what they did. So, do you think that if the Communists successfully succeeded in taking over America, that, you know, foreseeably we could see them wiping out tens of millions of Americans. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 33:19

I mean, that's kind of what they do in communism. I think that part of the reason why I'm even asking this is that I think that for a lot of folks, they really need a wake up call. We need to understand that if we don't change what's happening, this is what our country could look like in five or ten years. So, I mean, do you think that we could see, say, whether it's mass starvation or or, you know, kind of labor camps or all the different things from communist China, that they might would they possibly do that here in America?

Xi Van Fleet: 33:49

Well, you know, no one can see exactly what will happen in in America. But one thing to be sure is going to happen is total control and a dramatic reduction of our living standard because we don't deserve it. What made America so special that we deserve a better living standard? We should have equality applied to all of us so that we become just like another third world. Right?

Xi Van Fleet: 34:19

We don't deserve to live, in a comfortable home, and we well, the green energy is part of that agenda. So reduce us to really just like third world. So people or die, I don't know, but suffering for sure. Absolutely.

Seth Holehouse: 34:43

And so in terms of, you know, one of the questions that I think a lot of people end up asking with with this is, well, who's really behind it? Right? Because it's, you know, is it is it Klaus Schwab? Is it Xi Jinping? Is it any number George Soros?

Seth Holehouse: 34:58

Is it any number of different people? Or is just the specter of communism? Is it the devil himself that's kind of like, so how would you summarize, or how do you explain from your understanding what's the driving force behind this?

Xi Van Fleet: 35:17

Yeah. I have to say that communism is a ideology, and it is a tool, really. And so the Mao succeeded in China in 1949. Why? Because he got all the peasants behind him, supporting him, because he promised them free land.

Xi Van Fleet: 35:39

He promised that we're gonna get the land from the the rich and give it all to you. Why who wouldn't want that? We have, like, a 95% of the population were poor. Right? So they follow the the CCP and their communist revolution and what they got.

Xi Van Fleet: 36:02

They the land they got from the landlord only lasted for six years, and then all taken back by the state through the collective farming, and then starvation hit. And up to 50,000,000 peasants, the supporters of Mao died. Okay. So the question is, who is behind it? It's not it's not really when you think about it, it's not about the communist ideal, like equality for everyone, kindness for everyone.

Xi Van Fleet: 36:36

Right? It's not because it's proving it's not. It is a few control over the massive, majorities. So communism is not it's just a tactic tactic. Why they they adopt communism today?

Xi Van Fleet: 36:52

It's because it's so effective. It is absolutely proving to be the best way to get absolute power. So who is behind all this in America or the world or the Western world to, and it's a few. Well, there's no Mao that you can identify with. You know, China is easier.

Xi Van Fleet: 37:11

It's there is a a person. Here is a group of people, and it's globalists. Absolutely. It's a globalist. They are not necessarily more, communist because they believe in the communist BS.

Xi Van Fleet: 37:26

No. They use this because it is so effective. So they want to use the communist tactics to reduce, to put really bring America to its knees so it can control it. So I say it's they are globalist, And George Sorrell definitely is one of them. And some of them, I I would say that we would not know.

Xi Van Fleet: 37:50

We don't know their faces. They're just a group of people. That's how I look at.

Seth Holehouse: 37:56

Yeah. And it's an interesting point that you make that it's not like they're people that just they they believe in the ideals of communism. Like, you know, a young, say, Antifa member, you know, he might actually believe in the ideals of communism and think that he's fighting to create a communist utopia and throwing off the evils of capitalism. But I think for the people that just want power, right, that just want power and control over the world, over, you know, mankind, that, you're right, it's a tool. And it's something that they've developing and they've been honing and they've been practicing, you know, even early communism.

Seth Holehouse: 38:34

You had, I think it was John Rockefeller published an op ed in the New York Times praising communism under Mao and saying, gosh, this is such a of a brilliant tool for controlling the masses. Right? So, yeah, it's interesting that you view it that way. And I have to agree as well that it's because it's it's almost like a blend of a religion. I mean, religion can be used as a tool to control the masses.

Seth Holehouse: 39:00

If the wrong if evil people are in control of certain parts of a religion, they can control people. So it's it's Communism

Xi Van Fleet: 39:07

is a religion. Yeah. It's absolutely a religion.

Seth Holehouse: 39:12

Exactly. And so what it does, though, is it it just it's the mechanism for, you know, taking away rights, stripping the rights, and destroying people, and then only, you know, basically giving them a life that has full control by the very few at the top. Now, one question, I'm curious what your perspective is on this topic, is the Second Amendment. There's a lot of people, and myself included, and a lot of the books I've read, that have said, look, any of the countries that have fallen to a totalitarian regime, whether it was, you know, Russia or Cambodia, even Germany, China, they always had to disarm the citizens before they were able to successfully take over. Because, you know, at the end of the day, it's really the foot soldiers that have to take over.

Seth Holehouse: 40:02

And I remember it was Solzhenitsyn talking about that even if they would have stood at their doorstep at night with fire pokers and axes and whatever they could to fend off, that could have stopped the Communist takeover because they would have had resistance. And if an officer knew that he might be killed that night in going and taking away people, they might not actually do it. And so, with America, this is the one thing that, you you look at Obama and a lot of policies he had, you look at what's, you know, Biden, look a lot at the more liberal agenda, is really to disarm the population. But as they've tried to disarm the population, you've had a massive spike in people buying guns. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 40:43

And during COVID, there were more liberals buying guns than than I think in recorded history. So everyone was rushing off to get them. And so do you think that the second amendment stands as a very strong obstacle for the communists?

Xi Van Fleet: 40:59

Absolutely. I know we just have to be so grateful. Our founding fathers were so brilliant. They know that the only way that you can you can fight against tyrannical government is our population that's armed. And and that's exactly what communists did when they took over a country, disarmament.

Xi Van Fleet: 41:23

Absolutely. And it's only recently, very recently, that I found out there there was armed resistance. So when I grew up, I was told in my province, the province I grew up, and it's kinda a lot of the areas, mountainous and area. There was armed resistance. They were called the bandits that they were attacking the the CCP and liberation army and whatever.

Xi Van Fleet: 41:55

Only recently, I learned the true history of it is because they were pushing their own reasonable taxation, taxation that was five times more than the previous government that starvation started. So the peasant said, okay. You have two choice. You either stop to death. You'll fight to death.

Xi Van Fleet: 42:17

They choose the latter. So they fought against the the the tax collectors, the local CCP military personnel, and it was such a really heroic uprising. And the CCP has to mobilize the the army from other areas to put down the the peasant uprising and then confiscated all the weapons from everybody in China. And now, of course, the people say, you know, I just posted something on Twitter showing that during the COVID, they can, with just a few policemen, to send the whole town with 40,000 population to the quarantine camp. No resistance.

Xi Van Fleet: 43:12

People say, how could they put up with this? Well, how how could you fight back? You don't have anything to fight back. And that's people should take that as a lesson. We have to hold on to our guns, and we should be so grateful that we have founding father that put this as the amendment to guarantee our constitutional rights to be armed.

Xi Van Fleet: 43:36

And it's not for hunting, and it's it's absolutely for case like this, tyrannic government.

Seth Holehouse: 43:42

Yeah. And I feel like that that's this is a really important point is that in the discussion over the Second Amendment, you know, a lot of people, they say, Why do you need a rifle with a 30 round magazine to shoot a deer? Right? Deer, they're not shooting back at you. And they've really, they've taken that argument and they've turned it into something that really is not even close to what the foundation of that argument originally was.

Seth Holehouse: 44:05

And even my understanding as I've grown up has changed, and now I understand it the same way that you do, that it has nothing to do with hunting. Know, has nothing to do with that. The sole purpose of the Second Amendment is to allow the sovereign individual to protect themselves from evil. Right? Whether that evil is a criminal, whether that evil is a tyrannical government.

Seth Holehouse: 44:26

Like, that's what it is. So well, it's encouraging even the story of the the bandits because I'd imagine if the bandits if that was half of China that were the bandits Exactly. The CCP would have

Xi Van Fleet: 44:37

never That's what I was

Seth Holehouse: 44:39

Yeah.

Xi Van Fleet: 44:40

That's what I was thinking. But growing up, we were told it's bandits. No. It's not. It's a popular uprising by peasants who are armed.

Xi Van Fleet: 44:50

And so exactly if half the half of the the country was armed, that will be a different picture, different ending of a story. And this is also part of the education. The education system deliberately deliberately teach the children the false narrative that that the second amendment is for hunting. You know? Those crazy hunters, why they want all these weapons?

Xi Van Fleet: 45:23

They've never taught that the real reason. And this took me forever, forever to understand. I've been here more than thirty some years. In the past ten years, I really finally understand why there is a second amendment. And the reason I understood is because I bothered to do research.

Xi Van Fleet: 45:44

I bothered to read books and help me to understand, but that's not the case for a lot of people. We're fed fast food for, you know, simplified and a false history, and then that's all they know. And that is really the the best way to to change a population is using educational system to really to control their mind.

Seth Holehouse: 46:15

And so for the people that are watching this, a lot a lot of the in the audience that watch the show are quite aware of what's happening. And they're trying to fight back against this. But from your perspective and your experience, if someone came to you and said, she, what can I do? Right? As an average American, what can I do to stop this communist takeover of America?

Seth Holehouse: 46:37

What would your advice be?

Xi Van Fleet: 46:40

There are so many things you can do. You don't have to do what I did, which, actually, what I did was accidental. I was a accidental activist, you know, put in a place. I choose to go to the school board thinking that's the end of it and have no idea that my my video were would go viral, and then then I would have to be on the, you know, national TV like Fox News. And and so I was almost like a dragged into it, or I think it's a god's will that I got into it.

Xi Van Fleet: 47:19

And you don't have to do something like what I did. You just have to the least you can do is resist. Resist. You can it can be a quiet resistance. Just don't go along with what they were pushing.

Xi Van Fleet: 47:35

And and I think and also organize. Find strength with with people, with numbers, and then join the local organization. They you can find, I'm sure, organization in every place, county, and that in and and like a mom for liberty. Because the most important thing you can do is stop the indoctrination in school. Moms of liberty, mom moms for America, and a lot of parent parental rights organization joined them.

Xi Van Fleet: 48:11

And I think that's what we should do. And this is the thing. The conservatives really don't organize people. Right? Conservatives believe we're all individuals.

Xi Van Fleet: 48:25

You know? Individuals should do whatever you you you think is right for you. Not the, not the communist, not the left. They're organized. They're organized.

Xi Van Fleet: 48:35

They take the, the effort, like, you know, like, community organization. That's how Obama become a president. He organized his way to the White House and with the guide book of Alinsky. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 48:53

Yeah. Rules for radicals.

Xi Van Fleet: 48:54

The community. Yeah. The the books for the radicals, and that's what they do. And they never sleep. That's the thing.

Xi Van Fleet: 49:02

They never sleep. Like the Loudoun County. Right now, you know, we have been doing this for some to some years. Now when I read the news, they are trying to, they are trying to attack the, the outspoken parents. I think, is this two years old news?

Xi Van Fleet: 49:20

No. It's they're still doing it. They never stop. And that's if we want to, defeat them, we have to do the same. We have to do the same.

Xi Van Fleet: 49:29

And people have to understand we're no longer dealing with, oh, you know, democrats kinda getting kinda crazy or left, that can no. We are dealing with really communists.

Seth Holehouse: 49:40

That's such a good point. Well, before we sign off, I wanna bring up your Twitter. I wanna recommend that folks follow you. This is where I discovered you. Your Twitter handle is just at x van fleet, that's v a n f l e e t.

Seth Holehouse: 49:54

Do you have any final thoughts for closing for everybody?

Xi Van Fleet: 49:59

Yeah. I just want to tell your audience. Last year and in March, I finally made a big decision. I quit my job. I quit my job and started writing a book.

Xi Van Fleet: 50:13

And the book is almost done, and it's coming out in October. They name the title of the book is Miles America, a survivor's warning. And in it, I laid out all the parallels. Not all. I I can't.

Xi Van Fleet: 50:32

There are just too many. The major parallels that I found and to let people know, this is really a Marxist revolution, and it is a repeat of what I personally experienced as a schoolgirl in China, and that is the Chinese culture revolution.

Seth Holehouse: 50:53

Well, you'll have to make sure to send me the information once you have a link or a preorder link on Amazon or wherever you're selling it.

Xi Van Fleet: 51:01

It's it's there. It's in Amazon.

Seth Holehouse: 51:03

Oh, it is? Alright. Okay. Let let me pull that up really quick. Let me let me go ahead and bring it up.

Xi Van Fleet: 51:07

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And just just search Miles America and or just my name.

Xi Van Fleet: 51:14

Yeah. It's been there, and we we will start we will start promote it together with the publisher.

Seth Holehouse: 51:25

Oh, great. So, yeah, here we go.

Xi Van Fleet: 51:27

Yeah. And that is not a history book, not like a scholarly history book, but it's a lot history in it and also a lot of personal absolutely personal experience, family experience, and people I know that to really was the the goal. You really just to to wake up people wake up people that to to understand what is really happening in America so that people will really get get involved and and defend this country.

Seth Holehouse: 52:07

Good. Well, looks like so folks can go there and pre order that as of now, which is great. And it looks like it comes out at the October. Well, Shi, thank you again for coming on, and thank you for making this your mission. I think that it's probably one of the most important things that anybody, especially in America, can be doing right now to help save our country.

Seth Holehouse: 52:26

So, I appreciate everything that you're doing.

Xi Van Fleet: 52:29

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Seth Holehouse: 52:32

Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?

Seth Holehouse: 52:52

This is a really important question, folks, that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.

Seth Holehouse: 53:25

So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds, that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, that's how it will work. The other thing though, is this high quality storable food.

Seth Holehouse: 53:44

This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way, if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so, for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned, patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality, storable food. Again, a lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.

Seth Holehouse: 54:15

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Seth Holehouse: 54:39

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