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Dearly Discarded is a podcast dedicated to people who have been silenced. We would like their voices to be heard, and so we are offering this podcast to do exactly that. These people are from all walks of life but they have one thing in common, they participated in the “safe and effective” medicine that they believed would protect them during the pandemic. Now they are injured and ignored. It is time for them to speak and be heard. Please listen with an open mind and heart. Hear these voices and share their stories with your friends and family. Welcome to the Dearly Discarded Podcast.
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Jared: Hello and welcome to the dearly discarded podcast. My name is Jared St. Clair. I am your host and I am excited to bring you another story that I believe you need to hear. I have had the pleasure of getting to know my next guest over the last 20 or 30 minutes as we've talked a little bit to get a little bit of her backstory and understand.
How we're recording the show and all that. And I can already tell you that she's got an amazing spirit to her. I think you're really going to enjoy listening to her. As I say on dearly discarded podcast, uh, this, these are never fun stories to hear, but what I love about so many of the people that I've had on this show is the.
Incredible resilience and the beauty of the soul inside of the [00:01:00] individual, uh, that we're talking to. And if you'll hold on to that and feel the humanity of, uh, of what we're talking about, uh, I believe that it can, um, embolden you. I believe it can enrich you, uh, even though the content of the story is oftentimes a little bit challenging to hear, uh, dearly discarded podcast, of course, is always brought to you by react 19.
You can find react 19 at their website, react 19 dot org, which is always linked in the show description of the podcast. If you're listening to this. As a podcast on, uh, Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever, and you would like to see video, uh, of this episode, it will also be on Rumble, uh, under the React 19, uh, link there, which, uh, is, or the React 19 page, dearly discarded page, um, on Rumble, which, of course, is also linked, uh, in the show description.
So, without further ado, I'll welcome [00:02:00] my next guest. Her name is Elizabeth Tucker. Elizabeth, welcome to the Dearly Discarded podcast.
Elizabeth: Thank you, and I really appreciate you doing this and helping others. Understand a little bit about what we're all facing. It's really
Jared: grateful. As I've said before, it's, uh, it's not the most fun.
Uh, I wouldn't classify it as the most fun podcast that I get to do of the two podcasts that I do, but I think it's an incredibly important podcast and I love to get, uh, your stories out there. And, uh, and I just. I'm always enriched at the end of one of these episodes, uh, by the, uh, the person telling the story, uh, more so than the story itself.
So I'm excited to have you on and I'll go ahead and start with just asking you, uh, what, tell us a little bit about yourself prior to, uh, COVID 19 and the vaccination program.
Elizabeth: So, first and [00:03:00] foremost, I'm a mom, um, uh, to crazy, kooky, adventurous kids. Um, but then I've also been doing mission work, and I was a personal trainer before this.
And then, um, also had a posture carry I was running. So, helping people on many levels has... Always been my calling. My heart's always been called to it. So before this, we were kind of all over the place. Like we're really active. Um, like there'd be days where I was stressed. Like I went out and trained a bunch of people and help with school or whatever.
And then I'm just going to get the cut, go get a kayak and load up because there's a river through the woods behind our house. And we'll go do like 11, 12 mile kayak just to relax. Um, went and climbed mountains, hiked, biked, skated. Um, we're kind of that one that you'll see if you drive by, like we're out in [00:04:00] the yard grilling, cutting up.
Um, if it's raining, you may see us out there literally having like a mud fight, um, playing in the rain. Um, or like you come out the door and like when we have had snow, if you're coming out the door, like I'd be the one that would nail you with a snowball or like we have nerf, um, nerf gun fights. We've even had it where we've been in different cars, me and my husband, and we're going to meet at Baskin Robbins, actually like about a month before this happened to me.
And we normally keep Nerf guns in the vehicle because we're kind of like big kids in that matter. Um, and so he goes to get out and I'm already out and I just started nailing him with the Nerf gun. And, um, it was hilarious and fun. Um, and so, yeah, like, I'm just kind of that active person that some people would look at and they're like, Oh, you make me exhausted because how much you do.
But, um, I [00:05:00] love what I did. I love being involved and I love getting to go on bike rides. Um, most of the time after I would take my daughter to school, I'd get on my bike and I'd actually ride to the school, which is about two miles down, and then I'd ride the other way down to the boat ramp. And so it'd be about four mile bike ride I would do in the mornings.
I loved it. It was peaceful. Um, I could get on calls with people like new clients and discuss things with them. Um, or even Life coach people why I'm doing it and I loved it. I love being active and doing things
Jared: So that that was was your life and sorry, did you how many kids did you say you had up to two?
Okay, and how old are they?
Elizabeth: My son's 20 and then my daughter's
Jared: 15. Okay, so most people are listening to this not watching it Probably you don't look old enough to have a 20 year [00:06:00] old Uh, son. So I was thinking much younger. Um, I'm, I know I'm older than you and I've, but I've got a 10 year old is my youngest and we're NERF warriors as well.
So I can certainly relate to that. We have an arsenal of NERF guns in the house. And so we have a lot of fun with that. Um, in fact, you just inspired me. The next time I see him, I'm going to have a NERF gun in the car and roll down the window and, uh, take advantage of that.
Elizabeth: We've done, I've done it in the car line too, like where I know the teachers and stuff and I'm picking up not just my kid, but like.
They're friends and stuff. I've actually had it where I've been in the passenger seat and my husband was driving. So I come up on them and they were talking smack at school, like I sent messages from out there. Don't get us. So I rolled up and I got like one that has automatic little spinner people on it and just started like shooting them.
And it was hilarious. We didn't get in trouble, but, uh, yeah, it was,
Jared: it was hilarious. I love it when the parents are concerned. The parents are concerned about getting in trouble at school. That's fantastic. [00:07:00] Um, you're from the south somewhere, I assume, based on the accent. Um,
Elizabeth: yeah, I live in
Jared: Mississippi. Okay, so I was once married to a girl from Mississippi and I was wondering because it sounds, uh, that's a very familiar accent to me.
So it's, it's beautiful. Um, all right. So since, uh, when were you actually, well, let me ask you this 1st, in terms of mindset, COVID comes along. You're clearly someone who's very, um, passionate about, you know, kind of taking care of your fellow man, uh, looking out for, uh, for people, uh, through your missionary work and your apothecary work and things like that.
What was your mindset going into COVID and, and COVID vaccines?
Elizabeth: So actually when we're, when I was hearing about like all the shutdowns, um, we actually travel during all the shutdowns. It's like, you know, never caught COVID. Um, And we, I still went out and helped people. Um, I didn't really wear a [00:08:00] mask. Um, I actually was very nervous for a lot of people.
There was a lot of families that I knew were already struggling that I'd been helping. So I'll give a little feedback on this. So I don't believe that you need to go on social media and take a picture because you just want to help somebody or video recording. I decided to stop on the side of the road and go feed somebody.
I don't need to. Like, I don't feel the need to do that. Um, I feel like if you're called to it, something you just do. Um, so when I started hearing about all this, I was actually was coming back into the country from a mission trip. And we were at, we had huge holdups at the airport and that was. Um, December one and 20, I, you started, you know, you're hearing things about possible different things going on with the virus and stuff.
So I was hearing all different things. And so it's making me kind of nervous, not for me, but for families, [00:09:00] I knew that we're struggling. So I started reaching out to some people when I started hearing that. There's possibly going to be a shutdown trying to get it. Could we get people together to can food?
Um, and get people to donate food. So we can can a bunch of stuff and go give it out to families. So they would have it. And that was kind of my mindset is I was more worried about other people. How can we help them? I don't want these kids. Who have now been getting help not to have food. I mean, they were already experiencing not having food and now they're finally getting food.
And if it shuts down a lot of these places that they're getting from, they weren't going to be able to get it from. And that was heartbreaking to me. And that was where my mind initially went to was I don't want these babies to suffer. And so then we were doing that and then it got to a point where it was harder to get food and stuff like that.
And, um, [00:10:00] Uh, so we started just pulling out of our savings and buying things for people because we couldn't get them food and people weren't, you know, there was all these restrictions and everybody wasn't wanting to help. And so we started pulling out and helping them because we knew if we didn't do it, these people weren't going to eat and they want, their bills won't be paid and it helped a lot.
And it did, and we had, our bills were being paid, we had food. That's what we needed. And, um, we still went out and visited with people. We still have people here and, um, still went about and did things as much as we could, even with lockdown and restrictions, because some people just cannot function without having other people there to talk to or see that human interaction.
There are a lot of people that it's [00:11:00] hard for them. I'm, I'm a person that. I can deal with time alone and it's okay. It doesn't bother me, but I have a really strong mindset. Um, and so I'm comfortable in silence. I'm comfortable not always having to be around people. But I, there was a lot of people I knew that we were helping that they weren't.
They truly in their journey were needing that. They needed that person to hug them and embrace them. And so It was really hurting me knowing that these people were going to, like, suffer a lot. Um, and I was happy I could help as much as I could. Like, I was thankful that I could.
Jared: Yeah, well, obviously you were in a good, um, a good mindset starting out and trying to, uh, You know, there these things happen, these challenges happen in life, and, and nobody can say that they escaped covid without some significant, uh, shifts in, you [00:12:00] know, how their life went.
Right? Uh, yeah. And I, I often, uh, say, in fact, I was just on my other podcast, uh, yesterday talking, uh, to someone about the blessings that I received. Largely due to what happened with COVID. Some of the great friendships that I've been able to, uh, gain that I didn't have prior to that, uh, and including with some of the amazing people at react 19, like redress and, and, and many others it's.
It's an interesting thing because these challenges can, we can use them to build ourselves up. We can use them to tear ourselves down and to a large degree, that's up to us. Um, unfortunately, uh, in the, in your case and in the case of, of all the other people that I've interviewed on this. Uh, show the challenges were significantly larger than what most of us faced, uh, during COVID.
Um, when the vaccine rollout occurred, um, well, first off, when were you vaccinated? [00:13:00] November 4th of
Elizabeth: 2021.
Jared: November of 2021. So a good seven, eight months after, after everything was kind of rolled out to, to most people. Um, and which, uh, brand of vaccine? Pfizer. Pfizer. Okay. And your reaction was, uh, after one or two injections?
Elizabeth: No. I only had one shot and within 15 minutes I was having, started having a
Jared: reaction. Well, uh, prior to going into what your reaction looked like, um, why did you decide to get the shot?
Elizabeth: So in, in order to continue doing what I've been called to and what I love to do, continue doing mission work and going overseas, you had to have the vaccine.
Like I didn't have to have
Jared: it because of traveling for that. Right. For the missionary
Elizabeth: work, it was required. You had to have it to continue doing mission work and you had to have it to go overseas as well. And so I went ahead and got the vaccine because I actually was scheduled on trips. We'd all discussed [00:14:00] it and things had come, walk downs were pretty much over and we'd all discussed it and we're going back to start picking up mission work that was already planned before.
And get back into these countries where we're helping and building stuff, um, and so everybody had to, you either had to get your vaccine or you couldn't go and do the work and you couldn't go also out of the, you know, to other countries without it too, so.
Jared: So it's more because of, of a mandate than it was, uh, uh, feel, a feeling that you actually needed the vaccine, is that so to say?
Oh yeah, no,
Elizabeth: I didn't, I didn't, I had no, no reason to get the vaccine. I traveled. During lockdown, never once got sick, never once caught it. I was around people that had it. Um, we went through all different states and never once caught it.
Jared: Okay. Yeah, just, I'm always curious what the mindset is going in. It's different for everybody, and of course, I'm sure there's all kinds of second guessing that occurs, [00:15:00] you know, after a reaction like what you've had.
So, what was your reaction like? You said 15 minutes after the first jab, uh, you started reacting.
Elizabeth: What happened? So, I think on, I think on my card, um, I think it was, says it was like 13 minutes. I think that's what she wrote down. Okay. Um, it's like all on video. It actually happened at a CVS. So me and my, I'm glad.
So I'll tell you what happened. So actually trained clients that morning and I was just going to go by myself and go ahead and drive by myself since I was actually in town and go get the vaccine. Just had my husband meet me, um, because he was getting his, his was mandated as well for his job. And something told me to.
Not to do that. And we'd already planned that. I had no clients the rest of the day. And so we were going to go kayaking. Um, and he had [00:16:00] missed our anniversary, was back in. So part of our anniversary thing was kicking off with us going to go kayaking, have a picnic out there and everything. Well, I came home, changed out my workout gear, got a shower and all that, and we left and went there together.
I'm very thankful I did. Um, so we got there and there's a whole bunch of people. We've scheduled our appointment and when I got the shot, I didn't think about this until I had a bunch of people talk to me and everything. I ended up getting a taste in my mouth kind of like you do when you get your IV and they flush it.
You kind of have that taste that comes through your mouth. I didn't think about it. I had a taste go through my mouth and I didn't think anything about it, which means they actually hit, you know, vein artery when they gave me the vaccine. Um, so it makes everything 10 times worse. Well, they gave it to us and we had to sit there.
And so we're sitting there, you [00:17:00] know, I'm feeling perfectly fine. And then my daughter had called from school and she was saying her allergies were up. She was sneezing a lot. So we got up because we're at the pharmacy to go grab, we got allergy medicine to go grab some. And so we walk over there and we're standing there.
And we grab it and then we're going to go over back to the pharmacy right there and check out. Because as long as they can see you, you're okay. And then. We'd ask them, it's like, yeah, as long as you're right here, you're good. Um, so, I turn, and we start to go back to his car, so I take, like, three steps, and I grab his arm, because I just, like, felt hit, and was like, like I was lightheaded and dizzy, all of a sudden, I, like, grab him, and, like, grab him onto his shirt, and I just feel lightheaded and dizzy, like I'm about to fall.
And so I was like, Tim, I was like, I don't feel good, something's the matter. And I was like, I feel like I might pass out. And so, he helps me walk and go over to the seat. And then, there was like [00:18:00] five military guys right there. And one of the guys was like, Is your wife okay? And he's like, No. So he goes and gets the lady who did our vaccine.
And she comes over. And I'm calm. And yes, I'm not a super calm person. Anyways, she's freaking out. freaking out. She is like all freaked out and everybody's trying to tell her to calm down. Um, one of the other ladies comes over and I'm sitting here and I'm feeling like I'm gonna pass out and my heart rate is just steadily climbing, just climbing, and I can feel my blood pressure just rising up.
I'm getting bad pressure in my head, bad pain, my vision's starting to go blurry, I'm starting to feel short winded, and I start losing feeling in my legs. Like I start shaking, um, kind of like you're having a seizure. I start shaking and I, I'm sitting here saying, I, I, I can't feel my, I can't feel part of my legs [00:19:00] and I'm still calm and we're checking my blood pressure and my blood pressure is like in stroke level.
My heart rate when they checked it right then was like 187 and, um, it just keeps getting worse now and then I start feeling like my chest is being like literally like it's in a vice grip. Um, And I'm having a hard time, like, my vision, I'm having a hard time seeing, like, everything's like, double vision, blurry.
And by this time, they've already contacted an ambulance. And one of the people are, is telling us that there's an ambulance right next door coming across. Um, which was great. So they come in and they try to even stand me up and I can't, like, I couldn't, I couldn't feel my legs at all by this time. Like, I couldn't feel them.
So they're like trying just to try to stand me up to get me on to the stretcher because where I'm at, it's in a really hard angle. And, um, [00:20:00] I literally, they got to stand me up and I just go down because I, I couldn't feel my legs and I couldn't even stand on them. And then it just kept going worse from there.
Like I got in the ambulance and they're trying to talk to me and I start sounding like I'm drunk and slurring and couldn't put words together and it just. Kept going from there, and I was thankful there was ambulance right there And so they got me and took me straight to the hospital and thankfully they did because it just kept going downhill
Jared: Wow So you are in an interesting position in that you know They they basically at that point as as I recall and you can correct me if I'm wrong here They were essentially kind of monitoring people for 20 minutes or so after the shot just to make sure everything was cool and in most cases everything seemed to be Okay.
Right. For the vast majority of people within that first 20 minutes or so. Um, most of the people that I've interviewed, their reaction was later that [00:21:00] day. It was the next day. It was a week or two later. It was after the second shot, you know, things like that. Yours was quite immediate. Now I've interviewed some other people who have been very immediate as well.
Um, but, uh, as such, you're in a, a bit of a unique position because there's no way I think that anybody could say, well, it didn't, the shot had nothing to do with it. Whereas in many cases, that's been what people have been told. Well, the shot had nothing to do with it. It's a coincidence, whatever. So when you got to the hospital, um, what, what was their reaction?
What, what were they, uh, telling you and how are they treating you at that point?
Elizabeth: Um, so when I got there, they pretty much were trying to hurry up and put, hook me up for my heart and everything. Get that monitor was the main thing at the moment was my heart. Um, I actually had, it's kind of crazy because it was slam packed.
There was actually people out in stretchers all over the place. I remembered because they were trying to maneuver me through [00:22:00] stuff and I hear people and the nurse was like, um, she thought they were bringing in another patient. They're like, well, you just going to put her over here. And then they were like, no, we're not.
And, um, they pretty much kind of fuss. And then the guy, another guy that was actually. From the fire department followed us and he said, no, we called this in. Y'all are supposed to have a room ready for her because of what's going on. And he gave my name and she was like, oh, my God. Yes. And like, show them where to go and everything.
And they hooked me up to all this stuff. But then, uh, but then after being there for a while, it was kind of like, I really didn't see anybody. And we're like, I was hooked up stuff, but I really didn't see anybody really didn't hear anybody. Um, you can hear all these patients. Um. And there was just doctors all over the place and nurses all over the place.
So I was kind of [00:23:00] just back there, me and my husband. And, um, you can hear all these different patients and you can hear nurses and you can see people running around like chicken with her head chopped off. Um, frantic and crazy. Um, and so we're just kind of sitting back there at this point, like what is going on?
We're not really getting anywhere at this point. And. We have one person to come in who he's never seen. He was like, um, I think we're going to be discharging you, but I'm not for sure. And then he calls us by somebody else's name. And my husband was like, we're not even that person. And he was like, Um, I thought she was supposed to be getting a CT or MRI is what we were told and that still hasn't happened.
And then he was confused that he had patient stuff all wrong and all wrong rooms, not for sure who was where. He just kind of word vomited and like propped up against the counter and word vomited [00:24:00] kind of everything that was going on. You could tell he was super stressed. Um, and he was a nurse practitioner and he was just kind of.
Let everything out what was going on and then, um, took a breather and I kind of walked him through to kind of calm himself down. He was kind of shocked by that and was like, you're calming me down and you're the one in all this distress. He was like, I can't believe it. And we kind of talked for a few minutes.
Um, and he was like, Has she been drinking before? And he was like, no. She was great before this, just trained people and all this. And they were kind of talking. And then after that, like, he made sure he went out there and got everything moving again. And then so within less than five minutes, there was like five different doctors in my room.
And they're like, we're waiting on a room for you. Um, we're not for sure exactly what's going on. Um, on how [00:25:00] to actually treat you for this, you've had a reaction. Now we're trying to figure out the symptoms and try to treat everything. So we're trying to monitor you as a whole. Um, and they're kind of really honest about it, on not for sure on actually how to help me at the moment.
Um, which I, like, we appreciate it, but at the same time it's like, That doesn't make you feel that great. Right. That, you know, I can't really see, I can't, I can't really speak well, and I can't feel part of my body, and You know, my heart rate got awful and, um, I'm shaking like I'm having a seizure and, um, and then like these tremors, like what you see with these tremors is nothing.
This is nothing. Um, I have full body tremors. Um, so this is nothing and things kept progressively getting worse. And so by the time I got in a room... [00:26:00] things were pretty bad. Um, my husband never really posted how bad things were. He, it was more focusing on everything that was going on and getting my kids there.
And yeah, that really wasn't happening. I didn't get to see my kids at all while I was there because of Covid. Um, and the protocols. And so if I actually would have fully died, I wouldn't have been able to see him. That would have been heartbreaking. But it got even worse. So besides my symptoms and everything, they got me in a pretty good position where they got organs and everything start functioning again because they weren't.
Um, and so within 24 hours after getting my organs back working, they gave me a medicine and it started shutting down some of my organs and I was having a reaction to that medicine. And so we, we kind of faced a lot of that. Um, and [00:27:00] it was really touch and go for a while. Um, I ended up leaving in a wheelchair and having lots and lots of appointments and not knowing for sure what to do after that or where to go.
Um, it was a lot. I mean, I can go more into depth if you want more in Well,
Jared: let's I'm just I mean, that gives a, a, I think a pretty clear picture of, you 24 hours and I, and it is interesting because like I said before I asked that question, you, you are in a little bit of a different position than a lot of Of injured folks from the vaccines have been in that yours was so immediate and right after that first shot.
And of course, you also are it's it's interesting to me because we, I think that we were led to believe that people that were going to have issues with covered of course, where people [00:28:00] with. You know, significant comorbidities, you know, obese people, and elderly people, and diabetic people, and people with heart disease, and all these types of things.
And of course, this wasn't a COVID, this wasn't COVID, this was the COVID jab. But, uh, you were clearly in excellent health, and in great condition. Uh, you're not, can I ask how old you were at the time? So,
Elizabeth: I just turned 40, and this, I got November, my birthday was in December. So, I turned, let's see. Yeah, so I was 38 at
Jared: the time.
38, yeah. So you're, you know, young, uh, for sure when it comes to, you know, the age range that they were telling us was at highest risk and all this kind of stuff. You're a personal trainer. You're someone who's into nutrition and wellness. You're a nerf warrior. You're a kayaker, a hiker, all this kind of stuff.
So no good reason to believe that you would be in any kind of a high risk category at all, and yet you had a massive, you know, reaction [00:29:00] to this. So, we're, you're knocking on the door of two years, you know, post, uh, reaction, right? Yeah. This coming November. Right. And where, where would you say you're at now, uh, in terms of your recovery versus, you know, where you were with the story you just told?
So
Elizabeth: I've had progress, lots of progress. Um, I can speak clearly now. Um, I still have like vision issues, lots. Um, I'm still hypersensitive. I still have gut issues for sure. I can eat. Um, sometimes I still don't eat every day. Uh, I'm still nausea meds. Um, my tremors have calmed down immensely like this, tremors and seizures, which is amazing.
Um, I can feel my right leg almost completely. Um It's not like the same sensation on [00:30:00] my right arm, like I touch my right arm, I could really, really feel it. I touch my left leg, I can feel it, but it's not full feeling. Okay. My left side, I, this is, I'm super excited. So, this has actually happened within the last, Two and a half, almost three months.
I have random spots on my left side of my body going all the way down that I can feel it's, it's amazing. Um, it started off with like my husband, he went to grab my legs, like to help me get into the bed, like put them over and it hurt at my ankle where he was touching me, like it hurt, it was this bad, awful pain and I felt the pain, not just there, but like up.
My leg area. It was weird. I have a issue where my brain and nerves and everything doesn't connect properly from this as well. And it hurt and he was like, what's the matter? What's the matter? And I was like, it hurts where you're grabbing me on my left side. He made this face and so he went to touching and I was like it hurts there and he [00:31:00] was like, wait, you can feel there.
And I wasn't thinking about that. I was just thinking it hurts so bad. And so we got to thinking, I was like, Oh my God, I can actually feel I, I was like really excited, but it was painful that I was like super excited. I was like, I can actually feel, um, and so there's random spot and, um, that I can feel, and I just did another round of muscle testing and it was a new doctor that came in and, um, he was actually really shocked because, so he stabbed me by my ankle area and it hurt, like, I kind of whacked the wall cause it hurt really bad.
That needle's big and so then my calf, like I have my leg kind of turned like this. So they stabbed this needle that's this long, literally, into my calf and I'm just laying there and he just was looking at me with his eyes huge and he was like, you really cannot fill. And I was like, no, I can't. And then, so he's like, well, I'm going to poke you [00:32:00] again in a little, another spot on my calf.
So he pokes me again and he's just like, wow. And so then there's a spot on the outside of my knee I can feel. Um, and so he pokes over there of course, and he pokes on the other side of me. I can't feel it. And, um, so he's doing it and there's a few spots on my arm. And so he was kind of really in shock.
And, um, he said I'm his first person that he's actually met with. That has actually had a true reaction because in my file, it literally says I've had a true severe adverse reaction to the Pfizer vaccine, so we chit chatted, but, um, that's been my huge news. I've been super excited about that, but, um. I can grab things.
So me holding a cup, I can hold it in this hand, which I've worked very hard to be able to do this, but I can, I can hold things in my left hand. I can't hold it for long. I [00:33:00] mean, you can see it shakes. I can't hold it for long, but, um, I couldn't do that. I couldn't grab things. I couldn't hold things.
Jared: So how long have you been able to do that?
Elizabeth: Um, so fully grabbing like that. With my left hand, I've done really good, let's see, about April. The end of March, April, I could really start to kind of hold it
Jared: really good. We're interviewing in August, so that's just the last four months. That's crazy. And you are still in a wheelchair. You're not able to walk even a little.
Is that right? So
Elizabeth: I can use the Walker kind of walk, but it's not, and it's only a few steps. It's not much. Um, I have a hard time trying to hold. My body up so me sitting up like this I kind of have to lean back and stuff but trying to hold my body up and stand up my legs to hold my weight Um, it's [00:34:00] hard and to try to get them to correctly like pick up and move and walk Um, it's hard.
There's a huge disconnect between my brain and my body I have Damage to my brain from this damage to my nerves sensors My, one of my neurologists that does my movement and all that, my movement disorder doctor, she, um, said that my progress is quite amazing though because I'm, I really want it. I'm fighting for it.
Um, but she's not for sure if I will actually ever fully walk on my own or not. Um, and they're not for sure if I'll actually get full, filling back. They didn't expect I'd get filling back at all and I am now. Um, so it's kind of like, we don't know, but I'm not just sitting around doing nothing. Like I'm here at the house and I [00:35:00] want to stand up and so I will do it and I have fallen many times and my children will fuss at me too.
Um, and my husband and other people that are around that help. Um, so I'm really trying extremely hard to try to get my body to remember trying to get. My brain and limbs to connect properly. So I've been working extremely hard. So to get up until you do that, even though it's not all the time, it's huge, like really huge.
Um, it seems small, some people, but when you've worked this hard to just set up like I'm doing now, it's been a long journey, just almost two years. It's been a long journey just to get here, just to do that, because I still hit myself when I think. I still stab myself. Um, I, it took me a long time to be able to pull my hair up in a ponytail.
I was really excited when I got to do it. I made a [00:36:00] post about it. Um, it seems it's a simple thing, but people don't realize how hard it is to hold your arms up and, and then get your hands to hold it and then get your other hand to try to turn it and stuff. It's. It's not easy or, um, to hold a fork, just, just to actually hold it and keep holding it and then try to use it and get the food and then try to get it to your mouth.
All of that is extremely hard. People take it for granted. They really do.
Jared: Yeah. Well, it's, uh, you don't know what you've got until it's gone, right? Your attitude is clearly a big part of your ability to recover to the extent that you have. I'm curious about two questions. I'm going to ask them at the same time.
Um, what are doctors telling you in terms of what they believe your recovery is? You know, might be your prognosis, I guess. And [00:37:00] then what do you believe is going to happen in terms of your recovery?
Elizabeth: Um, so when I went back in February, they were the only thing that they kind of have told me is that they were thinking about maybe 15 to 18 months.
They think my tremors might possibly be completely gone. That's the only time frame I've gotten for anything. Um, they run me constantly for rare cancers, metal poisonings, and different random rare stuff that shouldn't have to be ran for, but apparently people are getting from these vaccines constantly.
Um, when I ask about actually walking and stuff, they, they honestly tell me they honestly don't know. Um, [00:38:00] I've been, I'm a very brutally honest person and I ask the same respect back with them and I've told them at the beginning of this that I'm not here for any drugs. I'd be happy not to have to be on any, um, I prefer all natural and I will be fully involved step by step and everything.
If I don't understand it, you're going to explain it to me. Um, and if you can't do that and you can't take the time to have those discussions with me, then I need a different doctor now. Um, I think that's been very beneficial, um, because all of my doctors actually, we have conversations every time we go in.
They also message me on the app and check on me, I've had phone calls, um, any little change they want to know. But when it comes to me asking like, I think are easy questions, you would think simple questions to get the answers of, will I actually be able to walk them out? I get fulfilling back, [00:39:00] you know, um, am I going to get more heart damage?
Like just basic random questions I think are basic. They don't have the answers for, because they can compare them to other vaccine injured stuff. I've had one doctor that's new on our team. He says he's compared me to people who've had reactions to polio vaccines. And so he's trying to compare me to.
Other people that have had other reactions to vaccines. Um, but initially they don't have a timeline to tell me when things will get better or when they'll get worse or, um, What do you believe? They kind of leave me in a stuck. I am declaring that I will fully be healed and I will walk again and be able to fully function again.
That's what I'm declaring and [00:40:00] I tell people all the time, I am healing daily and healing takes time and you have to listen to your body and work with it. And I'm learning how to be a person that stops and takes naps and rests and that's something I didn't do before. And it's lessons that I'm learning now, um, that I told people to do before, but I didn't do.
So. I know that I will be healed at some point in time when I don't know, is it going to just happen tomorrow? No, my body is healing and it takes time and within the first six months I couldn't eat and now I can eat toddler sized meals. Um, I couldn't speak like this. I couldn't sit up like this. Now I can do these things.
I couldn't take those steps. I take steps now. Sometimes I don't. Um, [00:41:00] I... I've done a lot of things that they told me I couldn't do, or I won't be able to do, that I'm doing, and, um, I'm happy to continue breaking every barrier that they think I can't do and won't be able to do, and, um, that is definitely my goal, is to sit here and be like, oh, you said I can't do that?
Watch me. Watch me do it. You get to sit back and watch me. You get to be there on the ride knowing that You've seen me at the beginning and how bad it was, and now you'll get to see me do that. So, that's, that's where I am. And on some days I use the word I've, I've not liked for forever is can't. I've always asked people not to have that in their vocabulary, but I have it in mind because there are things I actually can't.
Um, but on bad days, they're bad and I cry a lot. And, um, [00:42:00] I've not liked myself and I've always been this very confident woman. And I went through a spell where I haven't liked myself. I haven't liked my body. Um, I've been trying to cope with the new me of having to have somebody help you get in the shower, having to have somebody help you bathe, having to have somebody always take you places, um, having to have somebody get your food, and be taken care of like I'm a toddler and feel like I'm an invalid when those are all natural feelings, but I would have never thought that I'd I've had that mindset or been in that place and felt so bad about my own self, and kind of bashed my own self and my own reality, and, but I've been there, and I know that so many of us go through it, but we're not talking [00:43:00] about it, and it's awful.
It's awful to feel this way, and it's awful to, you know, not want to love yourself the way you are, and. Not want to go out in public because you feel so bad about the way you look and what your body's doing that you can't control it. And that's been my, I would say one of my main struggles, even though all of this is a struggle, but without your own mindset and when it goes to crap, it really does affect everything.
Like it really, really does. And I've met people through this journey that were nowhere near as bad as I was, but. I've only gotten to know them for a few months and then they've taken their lives all because of the mindset and nobody's talking about the psychology behind it. And, uh, it needs to be talked about.
Like, it really does. There are so many people that are taking their lives because they're feeling the exact same things [00:44:00] I'm feeling and we're not discussing it at all. And it needs to be, I brought it up. I was asked to speak at the Capitol. I didn't really talk about myself. I did a little bit cause I was asked to, but I brought it up there because right before I was asked to talk like two days before I had a gentleman named Josh.
I'd only known him for like four months who I talked to hours before he took his life and it broke my heart because he was struggling, like really, really struggling and it. Nobody was talking about, I was the only one that was talking about how he felt, and he said that I was the first one that actually didn't bash him for feeling bad, didn't bash him for how he was feeling, the only person that told him that these feelings are okay, we're human, and we're going to have these feelings, and somebody shouldn't [00:45:00] tell you that you can't have these, and that it's wrong, because it's not, you're literally going through pretty much the stages of grief, and that comes out in all different ways, and Then I got to talk to him and then he took his life, and I got a call from his mother to tell me that she's found her own son there, and he had taken his life because he couldn't handle it because he was struggling too bad mentally, and I told Tim, I was like, I don't want to end up like that, I don't want my kids to, I don't want my kids to see me do something that I would never want to do because I'm struggling so bad on how I feel and because everything that's going on, and so that kind of flipped.
Like a switch back for me to say, you know, this, you can't, you can't get it. You can't stay like this. You have to start talking about how you're feeling. And I would talk about things that I wasn't talking about actually how I
Jared: [00:46:00] was like really truly Um, so we are having some technical difficulties if you've heard things get a little bit choppy Uh, we've had some audio drop out a couple of times.
We just had the entire connection fail on us uh over the last couple of minutes and so for As you're listening to this we apologize for the technical difficulties. We'll try and make it as clean as we can When we produce it, but one thing that we aim to do with this podcast. Um, as we stayed at the beginning of the podcast is give you as unfiltered of a look and uncensored of a look at, you know, what vaccine injury really looks like, uh, and the, uh, you know, the human cost of what's happened to so many people.
And, uh, so this will be as unedited as possible, but we will try to get it, um, a good recording for you so that you can, uh, so that the story flows a little bit. So I've got Elizabeth back and I want to just ask one last question before I let you go, Elizabeth, and that is, um, you're here on the [00:47:00] dearly discarded podcast.
You're, you know, again, almost two years, uh, post injury. You're still struggling clearly with a lot of the emotional and physical challenges, and yet you have made major strides from where you were. You've declared, and I agree with your declaration, that you will fully recover. I believe that, uh, to be the case myself.
And I'm, I'm absolutely not just saying that. So then the question I have is, Why did you decide you wanted to get your voice heard? Uh, and, uh, share this story. Why do you think this matters? Well, I think everybody's
Elizabeth: story matters. We're all, all of our, all of us matter. All of our stories matter. Um, but I think for me, you can see like a whole different walk with me.
Well, rolling with me. Um, and I want people who are in a place where they're wanting to give up to [00:48:00] possibly help them not give up, not take away their lives because your life is precious, every bit of it, the good, the bad, the ugly, you know, you need to think of it as. We are all broken, 100 percent beautifully broken.
And if you change your outlook on how you see yourself and life and look at it from all different ways, your whole life will change. And I've always been called to help my heart is led to help others. And at points, I feel like I'm letting down myself, um, by not helping people. Um, I've got a lot of ridicule for not speaking out sooner and not.
Explaining more sooner, not sharing enough sooner, but I wasn't ready. I've been trying to heal mentally and working on physically and that's okay. And I'm in a better place mentally to be able to really share and be [00:49:00] okay with crying and sharing the ugly and talking about just how bad it has gotten. And we need that.
We need people to understand that. It is a mental struggle, 100%, a mental struggle. It is hard as hell, hard as hell. And if somebody tells you different, they're lying. Um, and I'm here to be transparent and let you know this, this, this shit is... A trial from hell and it's okay to say you're, you don't want to do it.
It's okay to say that I can't today. And the best thing I could do today was sit up in bed and be up and literally just cry. I want people to know that these things are okay. It's okay to have these emotions. It's okay to truly struggle. And. You shouldn't have to feel judged by that. And the people that are judging are the ones that are [00:50:00] lying to themselves because we all feel these feelings.
And we all have emotions. And we would have less suicide and less people getting high if not just for the vaccine injured but just as humankind if we would be willing to sit here and know that people have feelings and that we need to be there for each other. Somebody gets sick, get off your ass and go help them.
I don't care if you're just sharing it, pick up the phone, go to their house, give them a hug. Don't judge them. Let them just say what they got to say. I don't care if they're yelling and screaming, let them get it out because that's what needs to happen. People need to be able to vent and not be judged.
And it's all of us, all of us as a whole, not just people that are injured, not just to stay with people, not people that are going through cancer, but every day life. And. I want to be able to take what I've [00:51:00] experienced and come out here and be able to help other people and help guide them and. Help with their lessons and help me that support help you that person that lifts them up and know that it's okay and know That you can get through this and that even though Everything's changed for you.
It doesn't mean your life's over. You're still breathing. There's breath in your body You can still do so much so much It's all about changing your mindset and having people in your circle Like me and others who are willing to be there for each other and love on each other and lift each other up And that is one of my main goals.
Obviously, I want to get help for myself as well. Um, but no matter what, where I'm going through this, I still want to be able to help others. And I still want to be there for others. And yes, we need support, not just me, but other vaccine injured. And yes, we need money for treatments. Yes, we do, 100%. My son is home from college, and he shouldn't [00:52:00] have to be to come and help me.
He shouldn't have to be. I don't have the money to send him back to school because it's gone. We've had to pay for everything. I don't work. I haven't worked in two years and my husband lost his job. Help him take care of me. And that's the reality. It's ugly truth. But now I'm fighting to try to find a way to get him back into college because I don't want him here because that makes me feel like absolute crap.
But at the same time, like an amazing mom to know that he came home to help me. But then, you know, my kids suffer. They have emotions. My husband has emotions. We're not talking about any of that as well. All that needs to be addressed, and we need to start coming together and really realizing that we need to help each other and help each other's families, and we need to be there to support each other.
And that's one of my hugest things that support support on many levels is what needs to be done and heard. And I'm really hoping that. Part of my [00:53:00] story will inspire people to get up here and to support other people. And I don't care if you can't do it financially get out here and actually emotionally support people.
That's what they need. That's what they truly need is that support. So I really hope it encourages people and I'm thankful that you do these podcasts and it helps. People like me and other injured, and it helps spread the word and it can help encourage and inspire people. So I'm truly grateful that I've been able to come on your podcast and share a little insight into my life and what's going on.
I'm very thankful for what you're doing.
Jared: Well, I appreciate you having the, uh, courage to get on and tell your story. I know it's not an easy story to tell. Clearly, it comes with all kinds of emotion, as it should. Uh, and, and those who are listening, I believe, will be strengthened by your message and by your, um, your obvious, [00:54:00] uh, desire.
And belief that you will recover from this. So thank you so much for your message. Thank you so much for your time. For those of you who are listening, go to the show description, click on the link to React 19. It is one of the best ways that you can help those who've been injured and the families of those who've been injured by these COVID 19 vaccines.
React19. org, a fantastic organization. Um, that is run by the injured for the injured without any desire for profit, but just to help their fellow man, much like what Liz has just shared with you. So, um, with that, Liz, unless you have anything else that you'd like to share, uh, we'll go ahead and wrap up this episode, uh, just saying once again, thank you so much for, um, your ability and willingness to, um, share your message today.
Thank you so much. All right. So, uh, that was yet another [00:55:00] amazing soul, an amazing woman, uh, Elizabeth Tucker, uh, talking about her, uh, vaccine injury story. Um, if this has moved you, share this episode with family, friends, uh, strangers, put it all over social media. Let's get these voices heard. They need to be heard.
They've been silenced long enough. And, uh, if you'd like to help, go to React 19. Thank you so much for joining us again on another episode of the Dearly Discarded podcast.