Office 365 Distilled

Marijn got fanmail, a user that had a real usecase and was looking how to tackle a problem. So the boys become cunts - I mean consultants and do some live consultancy!

Creators and Guests

Host
Marijn Somers
Microsoft MVP. Freelance Microsoft 365 expert focusing on user adoption and governance. Trainer. Licensed watchmaker.
Host
Steve Dalby
Podcaster "Office365Distilled" Driving Collaboration Business Goals, Speaking about Governance, Whiskey taster and imbiber all round father and good guy.

What is Office 365 Distilled?

This podcast is presented by Marijn and Steve; two experienced Microsoft 365 and SharePoint consultants. In each podcast you will get a smile or two with a chunk of interesting and practical help in Microsoft 365. Then you get introduced you to what we hope is a Whisky you have not tasted before.

Speaker 1:

Hey. Hey. Are you absolutely serious? Never. Never serious.

Speaker 1:

Yes. You actually want us to do real live consultancy work on this podcast. Yes. That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

We're going to show our our full mantle.

Speaker 2:

Maybe.

Speaker 1:

It's a it's a knight term. It's the armor and all that crap. Let's Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, it... It's... I got a... I got an email from a passionate fan.

Speaker 1:

A passionate fan? No. I was close. I was so close. E.

Speaker 1:

E. No. A passionate fanny. I got an email. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Have you ever seen the porn movie Pussy Talk? No? No. It goes back a few years. Okay.

Speaker 1:

There you go. What are

Speaker 2:

you doing? When they would still have hair everywhere?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. In those days. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I I saw a great comedian online the other day, and he was talking about the fact he was actually talking about the fact that everything is so inclusive nowadays.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And he said now you can go to Netflix, and you can say this movie is about two gay lesbians. And, you know, we... We've got gay films, and we we are fully inclusive. Mhmm. The porn industry has been fully inclusive for the last forty years.

Speaker 1:

We have family stuff. We have Asian stuff, Chinese stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

We're all fully inclusive. There's nothing more inclusive than a porn channel. We got

Speaker 2:

pizza delivery guys. We got people stuck in washing machines. We got it all. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We do watch some crap on the Internet.

Speaker 2:

Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Talking about great stuff, though. We've been speaking these last two to three weeks. We've been all over the Blooming Place.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And we are going to be speaking much more as well.

Speaker 1:

We're right in the middle of a budding television studio. We've got lighting and everything else is because we are setting up for Commsverse next week.

Speaker 2:

Nice. Nice. Nice. So let's let's first talk about where we were.

Speaker 1:

Where we were, the past. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Let's talk about the past, and then we can go into the future. You were in Coladais, Poland, Warsaw.

Speaker 1:

Yes. We was at Microsoft for the sixth year. Yeah. I think I've done four years out of the six or something or six or seven.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I also think I did three or four of those.

Speaker 1:

I I picked something up the other day. So I was thinking, oh, that was when I went to Warsaw the last time. Oh, I think I've still got the cups and things that they give to speakers and all that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. I have to say... So one, it's a super fun event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Attendees are always super engaged. Always super fun.

Speaker 1:

I tell you about the session we did. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I do. Because I mean, last year we did the workshop. Yes.

Speaker 2:

And that was a lot of fun. I met some really cool people there over the years and I was so gutted that I couldn't go.

Speaker 1:

Nope. Because you were all able to pay somewhere else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. The people at Experts Life UK were just earlier to approve Yeah. My submission. So, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I'm afraid we've just been accepted for Zigreb, so Baltic Somers is also not on the cards. Oh, We we were thinking that we might do a road trip. Just maybe we can go fly, fly, fly. We'd have to wait and see because, but anyway.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

You know, we're nuts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Anyway. So... Yes. So Warsaw was really good. We were basically first on in the big room.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I love that room. That... That's nice. How do you call that? Where where it slopes up?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's an... It's not a gore,

Speaker 1:

I would say. It's called stadium seating.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's it's a brilliant room.

Speaker 1:

It is very good. Yeah. It's very good. And, bless her, cotton socks was not well, so she was full of tablets to bear so she could speak. So I kept making sure that she was speaking.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to exercise her voice.

Speaker 2:

That was why it was very important.

Speaker 1:

Everybody loved it when it good fun and we had a lot of interaction as we say. Were doing 10 essentials of baseline governance. Oh, And we were saying blah blah blah and people were going, just don't know me. It's never that easy. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not. And we had a great conversation and I did screw up a little bit because we started... I started the slides off

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And we were waiting. I think we had ten minutes. I was playing the audience, doing what I do, you know, getting them warmed up and everything else. And then as we get... We're about slide number six, and I looked at the clock, and it said forty three minutes.

Speaker 1:

And I went, hey, look. We're only on slide six, and we've only got five minutes left. Of course, we actually had fifteen minutes left because I'd started the slides off early, but that was okay. Everybody laughed and thought it was funny. But it's great and we got some great feedback.

Speaker 1:

We were getting messages all day, how much fun it was, what learning they got, everybody took away something new. Yeah, we liked that very much indeed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and I saw like other speakers, they were all like super fun people. Tatu was there, Yes. Peter was there.

Speaker 1:

We sat drinking

Speaker 2:

with him

Speaker 1:

on the sat...

Speaker 2:

The other night. Yeah. Good. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. No. There was a lot of cool people there. Even Jamal was there.

Speaker 2:

Jamal was there. Peter Badley was there. That's... Mean, everyone was there.

Speaker 1:

It was. Yeah. Everybody likes going there, to be honest. It's... It is just a great event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. And they do take good care of their speakers. Did you have, like, the big dinner as well? The big speaker dinner with the 200 kilo food for every person?

Speaker 1:

No. People were saying we'd already arranged to go. There's a new building there called the Grasco, Vasco Building, and it's the highest public building platform in Europe. Oh, you send me pictures.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So it's not quite as high. It's 30 meters lower than the Eiffel Tower. Okay. But as a building, it's the tallest.

Speaker 1:

And so we we'd actually already booked to go and eat up there.

Speaker 2:

Nice.

Speaker 1:

So we did that. The sun dropped just at the right time. It was just really cool. I mean, we had a couple of really rainy days because the weekend was. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But they've... I mean, Warsaw really is a a happening place. We had a good tour around the old town.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's a beautiful place.

Speaker 1:

It is.

Speaker 2:

I always love to go there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So we could just go there for fun, you know, just let everybody know they don't have to go speaking. They they can go there

Speaker 2:

for fun. Maybe because I really... I know a really good whiskey and cigar place.

Speaker 1:

Yes. I passed it and we went into the Dom store, but I refused to buy anything after all the stuff we did from last time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I get that. I get that. Alright. Cool.

Speaker 1:

So that was good. So, yes, I

Speaker 2:

was Good fun.

Speaker 1:

I don't know whether we've spoke about what we did before, but I can remember. But... Yeah. So you had a bit of a tour

Speaker 2:

last few weeks. Went to I went to London for Experts Life UK. Also that like? Brilliant event. How many people?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. 100, one fifty. Okay. But it's mainly modern workplace Nice. Kind of people.

Speaker 2:

So it's all, like, in tune people and security and all that.

Speaker 1:

So what good were you there? Sorry? What good were you there then?

Speaker 2:

Not much. Mental support, basically.

Speaker 1:

And, entertainment value.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Excellent. Excellent. What did you do? My Marikondo session.

Speaker 1:

I knew you were gonna say that. That That has done you so well. It is amazing. I remember sitting at the table in the other room, and we did a bit of a brainstorm, didn't

Speaker 2:

we? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Sessions. And you sat there and put up, I want to do something about Mary Conno, who the bloody hell is that? And you told me, and I want to use that to talk about tidying up your content. And looked at it and went, I don't want to get involved

Speaker 2:

in that. It is so much fun.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, people have really said how much they enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm delivering that at Scottish Summit as

Speaker 1:

well. Okay. Or would you do another different person to do it with

Speaker 2:

you? Potentially.

Speaker 1:

How many people have you done with now?

Speaker 2:

Three different people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And it's fun because it is also really nice to do to do it in a tandem because there are so many different topics and so many sections in the in the session. So it's just fun. Alright. But Experts Life was smack in the middle of the Finance District in the center.

Speaker 1:

The city?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was in the city. So it was near Ledden Hall?

Speaker 2:

Ledden Hall?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Which which building?

Speaker 2:

Oh, no. Was called Code Note something basement y thing.

Speaker 1:

It was... Leden Hall. You know what? That's where the first Harry Potter pub was.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So that's... Yeah. The filming was in Leden Hall Market.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I can I can see that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. It was done there. Okay. So did you go to...

Speaker 1:

If I'd have known you were going that close, did you go to Sushi Samba?

Speaker 2:

I walked past it a few times. I wanted to go in, but then Dan Barber, one of the people there, he took us to some Korean barbecue joint, and that was just out of this. No.

Speaker 1:

No. You missed out. Should've gone at least for a drink to to... Up to the Top Floor.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing.

Speaker 1:

Can You actually go outside.

Speaker 2:

Next time.

Speaker 1:

So you can actually go... They've got a big tree outside, and you can sit there outside on the 60th Floor or something.

Speaker 2:

Nice. Okay. Really, it's pretty cool. Next time. I walked past it.

Speaker 2:

Was thinking

Speaker 1:

about it.... Understand. You were only 1.5 kilometers from Browns. Potentially. Strip pub in London.

Speaker 2:

But to be honest, I... So I flew in on Wednesday. Yeah. Thursday, I spent almost all day in the hotel room meeting after meeting after meeting. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Friday morning, meeting, meeting, meeting. I went to the conference, did my session, saw two more sessions, flew back.

Speaker 1:

Because you were in?

Speaker 2:

Because I was in the middle of London, ten minutes walk from Tower Bridge, just right where all the action was happening, and I spent it all on in my hotel room. I did go out for drinks in the evening.

Speaker 1:

So you could have you should have said because I would have redirected you to...

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

Some amazing places, brother.

Speaker 2:

Know. It's missed opportunity.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. But you would... Did you not do Netherlands? Yes.

Speaker 1:

So I That's I was actually trying to get because then you flew back.

Speaker 2:

I flew back on Friday, and then on Saturday was collab days in Netherlands. Lots of fun. Good room. Good crowd. I did my...

Speaker 2:

Does AI replace me as a SharePoint consultant one? Yeah. And it was lots of fun because most of my demos all failed.

Speaker 1:

They did with me. You're using Live Copilot? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I did the same thing when I

Speaker 2:

tried it. That's a good thing because then I could say, see, AI is not taking my job because it's failing. It is not working. It doesn't do what it's supposed to do. So that's a good thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I I... There's a great comedian that that is on Instagram. I've been desperately trying to get tickets for him. Okay.

Speaker 1:

And I'm now gonna try and find him, of course, being typically

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

It won't show me his bloody name because I forget these things.

Speaker 2:

Of course.

Speaker 1:

He always he always has a lot of banter with the audience and takes the piss out of him, he's very, very rude and blue. And... But he also does really meaningful stuff. And so somebody asked him the question, you know, what do you think of AI? Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And he gave one of the best answers that I've heard yet, and it's not gonna come up. How how come Instagram knows that when you're looking for a specific thing, it will never show you the bloody thing?

Speaker 2:

It's

Speaker 1:

true. But, know...

Speaker 2:

I'm always searching for boobs, I can never find them.

Speaker 1:

Not quite yet. It was Jimmy So I did them.

Speaker 2:

Jimmy Carr. Of course.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Jimmy Carr. Yes. And Jimmy Carr... So there's somebody asking the question about AI, and he said, look.

Speaker 1:

He says, I'll tell you what I think about AI. He says, the human brain... Human being is left brain and right brain. Mhmm. Okay?

Speaker 1:

Left brain is all the analytical stuff, and that is where AI fits in. So AI will really shortcut you when it comes to calculating this, doing that, doing the other. But the right brain side, AI will never do. Yeah. So as a human being, it will only ever take half of what you do and make it better so that you can spend more time on the other half.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking that is a brilliant analogy to actually where we go from. And on Sunday, my daughter it was Father's Day, so they took me out for dinner, which is very good. I was... My daughter described me and Silver, my ex partner, you two are my favorite divorced couple. We were

Speaker 2:

just laughing and

Speaker 1:

joking, having so much fun. But, yeah, the restaurant thought it was hilarious because she wasn't quiet, Anna. But she was talking about AI. I thought she hates AI. And she hates it because of all the, you know, the dirty water it's sticking into the environment and how bad it is for the environment and all

Speaker 2:

the It's using up water. I'm hearing other people say... I was listening to Joe Rogan who has like a billion listeners talking about how much water it consumes. It doesn't consume any water.

Speaker 1:

All it does is it uses it to cool down. It doesn't pick any

Speaker 2:

chemicals. Through a pipe and just goes... Yeah. It's like nuclear power plants. They use water Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because they just use it to cool it down, it just goes back in.

Speaker 1:

No, but I had a great conversation then with Anna because she, I mean, she'd even stopped watching Disney because Disney's got some investments in Israel. Alright, so she really believes in her actions and then making those actions. But a great conversation about how they will or won't change the world and things, but it was okay. But it was an interesting concept that she won't even go anywhere near AI, but but even that didn't convince her that it was gonna take her AI.

Speaker 2:

I I also had some interesting talks. Peter said something. Peter said something super meaningful as well. We were we were chatting with a few.

Speaker 1:

Of course.

Speaker 2:

He always does. So it... So the topic was about AI making us like more productive. And he actually said something in the lines of, well, AI will take care of all the things that I'm not good at so that I can put more focus on the things that I am good at. Like for example, writing PowerPoints.

Speaker 2:

I wanna tell a story and I don't know how to convey that in a PowerPoint, but I can tell AI to my story and it can write that down in a PowerPoint. So it can do, it can write beautiful PowerPoints way nicer than I can in... Way faster than I can, so I can focus more on the content and not on how it looks, for example.

Speaker 1:

He said the same thing when he he played Microsoft for us at the... In April.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. And he

Speaker 1:

said all these slides are being done because I'm just so shit. That's it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. He's not. He's brilliant at it. Oh, well, anyway.

Speaker 1:

Peter's always thinks he's never good good enough at anything.

Speaker 2:

No. I know.

Speaker 1:

That's how he develops and grows himself, of course.

Speaker 2:

It's true. He's already a big guy, but okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's just his height.

Speaker 2:

Then I also had a...

Speaker 1:

Knew you were talking about his height.

Speaker 2:

Yes, of course. I mean,

Speaker 1:

I have no other news about the rest of him.

Speaker 2:

Well, when you go to a conference together, you tend to, I don't know, go places. Yeah. Okay. But I also had an interesting conversation about someone who works at a bank and was telling about, yeah, but do you know how expensive it is to give people a Copilot license? And I said, like, you're looking at this totally wrong.

Speaker 2:

It's not about cost. It's about how much value it can bring. Yeah. But I'm So, yeah. And that was that was a very interesting conversation.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:

No. No. It's good. So, yes, AI is always a point of conversation. Yes.

Speaker 1:

But it's interesting to see what the new generation would do because I I've spoke to a lot of younger people because I tend to. Mhmm. And if they're not in the industry, they tend to be more on the nervous side and worried about it. Yeah. And I was trying to explain as well, every single industrial revolution Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Has had some effect on the environment. True. Whether it was industrialization Absolutely. Engines Yeah. You know, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And and so this this is no different to anything else, and every one of those took... You know, kick started the world into a new location. Yep. I'm very envious because I'm an old fucker. Yeah?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I can't get by it. I'm just an old fucker, and I'm really pissed off that I will probably not know what it's going to be like in thirty years time when this is really bedded into and integrated. It's really... It's, you know...

Speaker 2:

Well, so you know that I'm listening to a bunch of podcasts around a bunch of things, and I was listening to a podcast where investment bankers were pitching one stock that they're very interested about. One of those was basically about cancer research. So he gave this whole analogy about how fighting cancer always brings up analogies about war. So you're fighting it. And, basically, back in the day with the first the the the the radiation was...

Speaker 2:

Or with the with the chemicals, they actually discovered that because they were giving mustard gas to people, and they saw that rapidly expanding cells were targeted first. So that's why... How they used it first. So it was just like a pray and spray big bomb, and then they would just flatline everything and see whatever happens. And then by now, they've got something...

Speaker 2:

And he described it like it's it's like a little drone carrying a a a demolition package that can go into the cell and then just blast everything at a

Speaker 1:

Inside out.

Speaker 2:

10 nanometer radius. And they're apparently super far with this, so that is gonna come out in the next few years. And if they can do that, they can solve so many other things.

Speaker 1:

What's AI got to do with that? Because that's where you started with

Speaker 2:

this concept. You're just talking about No. No. You were you were just saying like in thirty years time, I might not be here, but they are looking at increasing life expectancy to one twenty or 150 years old. So that would be pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

That's true.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Anyway, that's that's nothing to

Speaker 1:

do with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We'll see. But

Speaker 1:

that's interesting whether whether we can still be capable of working to that long. That...

Speaker 2:

Because... That is where AI comes in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Maybe.

Speaker 2:

Like, that's where, for example, Elon Musk is talking about we all need high basic income because we're not gonna work anymore because robots are gonna do half the stuff and AI is gonna do all the rest of the stuff. So we all need high basic income.

Speaker 1:

I I told you about it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, the people at Star Trek never complained on the ship on the USS Enterprise, never said like, oh, look at my bank account. They never did that. Oh, I saved so much money. No. They never did that because These they don't care about

Speaker 1:

are spacemen that get good salaries.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Danger money.

Speaker 2:

No. Well, maybe. But I mean, they're they're they've they never talk about money.

Speaker 1:

You see? You think that that's it. It's true. That is true. It's a view of the future.

Speaker 1:

Star Trek is absolutely accurate.

Speaker 2:

I I am always referring to Star Trek even even I'm a Star Wars fan, but I'm always looking at Star Trek at this might be the future how we do things together.

Speaker 1:

Sliding doors that sometimes don't open.

Speaker 2:

Maybe. Maybe. But I mean, we've got that right now. But I mean like yeah, all that thing like talking to a computer, True, stuff like you're be there now.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Spot here. Your... Okay. Commsverse like every year?

Speaker 1:

Four years videoing. Three years we've been doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So this will be our third year setting up the television studio there Commsverse TV

Speaker 2:

Powered by Shure.

Speaker 1:

Powered Powered by Shure, yes. So this year Shure are sponsoring some of the kit. So they're providing their desks and stuff. So that's where we'll be. So if you are going to Commsverse, you won't have listened to this yet because we've already got one in the can.

Speaker 2:

No, we'll we'll get that out.

Speaker 1:

We'll get them all out. Okay. So that means I have to mix it down and set the studio man. Then, yeah, it's what a busy week. But, yes, so Commsverse is where we'll be and then we're gonna go straight on.

Speaker 1:

So just to be clear, got Commsverse running Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday. Well, it's actually Wednesday and Thursday. We're setting up Tuesday. So Wednesday and Thursday, at 03:00 Thursday, we will start to break down very rapidly

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Because we have to be in Hamburg Friday so we can set up to do it at comms... At CoLab Days Hamburg on the Saturday. Yes. Another another great event.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

The second year or third year?

Speaker 2:

Oh, think it's their

Speaker 1:

second year, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

I think it's the third year, and I'm I'm... I've only been there for two times. I've been there two years ago and then this year.

Speaker 1:

Did we not do the podcast pilot last year?

Speaker 2:

It last year. No. Okay. No. Just math.

Speaker 1:

You're probably right. I can't remember.

Speaker 2:

No. And then from... After collab days Hamburg, on Sunday, I'm gonna spend some time in Hamburg. Yes. And then Monday, I'm gonna take the train from Hamburg to the European Power Platform Conference in Copenhagen, where I will be until Thursday.

Speaker 1:

And you're covering what there? What are you doing there? Work

Speaker 2:

No. The user adoption for Copilot thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nice. Yeah. Three different presentations, three different venues.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But I need to shorten that a little bit because I did at the COLUP Summit and I went horribly over time, so I need to cut like 10 slides or whatever.

Speaker 1:

No. No. I get it. Yeah. Alright.

Speaker 1:

Now when that will be the end of speaker season, I guess, for you.

Speaker 2:

Then it will be summertime. Yes. And then in September, do it all again.

Speaker 1:

September, October.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But in September, I've only got Scottish summit planned. There's gonna be Belgian collab days. Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1:

oh, no. No. I've still got a few days.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And then we got... So you were mentioning Zagreb.

Speaker 1:

Zagreb. Yeah. Zagreb. Again.

Speaker 2:

There's also an Experts Live Dubai event happening somewhere at the end of the year, and I kinda wanna go there because that's... Like, every year I wanna go to three countries I've never

Speaker 1:

been So

Speaker 2:

this year I went to Malta. I went to Sarajevo. And if I could now do Dubai, that would be that would be pretty epic. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I think I was doing another big event in Tunisia again.

Speaker 2:

So

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Now it's good.

Speaker 1:

Alright. So we've sat there and talked just about for twenty three minutes and all the shit we've been doing. Yeah. But I hope you got entertainment. I thought Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. But don't beam me up was worth a laugh and a giggle.

Speaker 2:

Yes. And we

Speaker 1:

haven't even mentioned yet, Macbah, Kevin MacDonald, and his sheep.

Speaker 2:

You mean Meryl Sheep?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Meryl Sheep. Yes. Meryl Sheep.

Speaker 2:

It took a while for me to do like, oh, oh, yeah. That's for Meryl Sheep. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So we work it out. So that I think is for Commsverse. So he's going to be

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Doing an event at Commsverse as well. So that's good. So, Kevin, yes, you had to listen twenty three minutes, mate, before you got a shout out.

Speaker 2:

That's fine. He always listens.

Speaker 1:

Right. So we're gonna be consultants.

Speaker 2:

Yes. We're gonna be consultants.

Speaker 1:

So Because you got an email from a fan fan.

Speaker 2:

Well, earlier today, I got an email from someone who works at the tourism board of a very beautiful city in Belgium. And I did I did a little project or a training for them some time ago, and every now and again, they just send me questions. And this one I got earlier today, and I thought, oh, that's an interesting question. Let's keep that for the podcast, and let's try to answer it live.

Speaker 1:

On the surface, I don't see a solution either, so it's really quite cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Alright. So here

Speaker 2:

we Let's set the stage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I am working on an art project with 18 different artists and about 10 locations. Mhmm. We work with SharePoint and OneNote. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

That's what they work with currently. Yes. I'm currently looking for an app or a tool. Mhmm. Oh, is she really nice?

Speaker 1:

No. Doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's it's a friend. So... Yeah. Yeah. Offer.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I'm currently looking for an app or tool within Microsoft that works well with these systems and allows me to create an overview for each work in which I can collect continuously incoming data and information, mostly text, important information from meetings, dates, schedules, photos, calculations, contact information, etc, but also assign tasks to colleagues from there. Planner does not offer the option to view data overviews and I cannot tag colleagues in OneNote. In the previous edition, for example, we had a page in OneNote for each work, but because we can't assign tasks, we are looking for something better. Which tool or app within this environment is most suitable for this? Which tool or app do you recommend within the SharePoint environment and can I help her navigate the process efficiently?

Speaker 1:

If you provide us with the solution, as normal your threesome will be paid. Oh sorry, no, that was not on the end of this. I do apologize if you are going to catch up on this friend of Marijn's, we can get a bit naughty at times.

Speaker 2:

Of course, of course, of course.

Speaker 1:

But actually the more I read this, then I have to start off by saying and I forgot the application's name now. Loop. Loop pages. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I was I was thinking about Loop as well. I'm not sure about tagging people, but I mean, could put text in there. You can have pages with your meeting notes. You can put documents.

Speaker 1:

It's got AI for recording meetings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So she could set up a loop workspace with

Speaker 1:

Per artist?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Something like that. Per artist per location, whatever she... However she wants to work, and then just collect all the information there, put some tasks in there that she can

Speaker 1:

Alright. So let's test this then. So we think a loop canvas or the canvas tech, a loop...

Speaker 2:

Well, it's a a loop workspace.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. A workspace. Yeah. Alright. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So... And then she says, I wish I can collect continuously incoming data and information so she can talk.

Speaker 2:

So write write down stuff.

Speaker 1:

Important information from meetings. Mhmm. Dates. Yeah. So yes, we can share the calendar from the site.

Speaker 1:

Schedules. Yeah. Calendars can be put in there. Photos, cut and paste or... Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Let's go back to photos.

Speaker 2:

Well, if she... Yeah. The question is always how is she doing that now? Because if... Is she importing?

Speaker 2:

Is she putting photos in the OneNote? Or what is she doing? But anyway, you can you can add files to a loop workspace.

Speaker 1:

The what... Can you... Where would you host this?

Speaker 2:

Well, they they will... Well, the the loop workspace is hosted in in SharePoint embedded. Yes. So it's gonna be in your loop Blobs

Speaker 1:

and layers.

Speaker 2:

And if you put files in there, you actually create a link to the file that is Stored in there. Right? Yeah. Something like that.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking that potentially what she needs is a SharePoint site Mhmm. So that she can create a page Mhmm. And then include loop... The loop in there and that kind of stuff. And then the photos can be stored in a library and just displayed on the page.

Speaker 1:

Well, it... By particular artist or something. Yeah. Because it looks like she wants a page per artist. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

So what she did last time, I cannot tag. So in the previous edition, for example, we had a page in OneNote for each work. Yeah. So they probably had a tag for the artist.

Speaker 2:

I think so.

Speaker 1:

And then multiple pages in there. So same thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I think she did it in OneNote. Right?

Speaker 1:

That's what she did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. So she had a page for every work.

Speaker 1:

She had a tab for every artist and then a page for every work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. And then she... Well, she could indeed do it.

Speaker 2:

So that that's always the beauty of these things. So you... We we have different ways of doing this. So loop could be a way to go. A SharePoint page could be a way to go because on the SharePoint page, she can also write down whatever she wants.

Speaker 2:

She can indeed surface documents from a document library.

Speaker 1:

What I was thinking was we'd surface the loop page in the SharePoint page. Is that possible?

Speaker 2:

I think so with the file and media web part. Thing that should be possible. But then what good would the loop thing do in the SharePoint page? Because she could use the page

Speaker 1:

page for all of the information. So if it's one page per artist Mhmm. Then the works can be displayed there in in a library, in an image library. Meeting notes can be stored. We haven't mentioned Copilot yet, so where would that go?

Speaker 2:

No. That was that was actually my first idea because earlier this week for another customer, we got a CSV with the Internet usage data, and I fed that into cohort that's being powered by Claude, and I say, make me an HTML dashboard about this. And that just looked amazing, and it also gave, like, recommendations and conclusions and things like that. And that was just out of out of this world. Very, very cool.

Speaker 2:

But I don't think... I I think she she really needs

Speaker 1:

This all about content storage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, she she she's managing this, so she needs a place to write all that stuff down. So I'm now in a meeting. Oh, you need this and this and this.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I write that down. You need that. Okay. You're gonna be there.

Speaker 2:

I need to pick you up there. So she wants to write all that information down. So that could indeed be a page for every work with some files coming from a library with meeting notes, pictures, whatever. And, basically, on the page, could write all the things that she want. But the the the thing is because she's now using OneNote, and the only thing she can't do is tag people on it.

Speaker 2:

And that's a little bit where I get a little.

Speaker 1:

Why would she... So she wants to share from... She wants to share it from there. Yeah. Which OneNote should never be shared.

Speaker 2:

It's a No. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a real thing. But a page and a site could easily be done that.

Speaker 2:

Yep. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yep. So maybe that all we actually need is a team site, and rather than a page to display everything, you can just use tabs along the top.

Speaker 2:

Potentially.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So then you can still have your loop. You can have your meetings. You can have your meeting notes. You can have the various applications per site.

Speaker 1:

So you can have one site per artist, and that then gives you everything that you need. You have one interface. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's talked about locations here as well.

Speaker 1:

So 18 different artists at about 10 locations. I don't know what a location is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I don't know. So is that... Does that mean 18 times 10 works? 180 works?

Speaker 2:

Or is it gonna be slightly less?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. My guess is that you have 18 artists working across 10 locations, but I don't know whether the locations are galleries. But that's okay. Doesn't really matter. No.

Speaker 1:

What we're doing is creating a content management environment for her.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So she wants me to create an overview for each work. Mhmm. So 10... 18 artists.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Well, if you create a page per artist, you can include a section for every work. You can talk about where it's gonna be or where that that person's gonna be, where to pick him up, where... When the flight is going, what they will do, what the schedule is, and then for all the works

Speaker 1:

after a while.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. It's... It it will be a long page. But, I mean, if you keep that in OneNote, it's gonna be a long page as well.

Speaker 1:

That's true too.

Speaker 2:

Well, in OneNote, you could also create sub pages.

Speaker 1:

Search the page on loop, and you also got AI record running in loop. It was

Speaker 2:

True. True.

Speaker 1:

True. To give, you can sit there and record. Mhmm. Can you? I'm assuming you can.

Speaker 1:

You can on OneNote, but I just... Anyway, worth looking at. Yeah. I have I have only just discovered... Not discovered, but only just started using pages in Teams.

Speaker 1:

Mhmm. Yep. Okay. My phone doesn't wanna do that. So text important information from date schedules.

Speaker 1:

So that becomes easier on a team site because you got the calendar in there. Photos, calculations, contact information, so you can have lists in there. Mhmm. And tasks, you can have planner in there for the tasks, which can be driven straight from

Speaker 2:

loop. Yep.

Speaker 1:

Planner doesn't offer to do data reviews, and they can't tag colleagues in OneNote, which you can tag colleagues in this as long as they have a full account. Yeah. In the previous edition, we had a page in OneNote for each work. Mhmm. Similar kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But because we can't assign tags, are looking for something better. Mhmm. Which tool or app? So there you go.

Speaker 1:

That didn't take long. Ten minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yep. Good. So we got options.

Speaker 1:

Have we got any automation that we can add to it? Or I don't know if it's needed really, do we? That's the problem.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I I didn't read anything about that. I I also don't see anything that might be valuable for that.

Speaker 1:

Depending on the tasks. So it could well be there might be some project stuff done or approvals and things. Yeah. But, yeah, we don't know. So we're gonna just drink whiskey.

Speaker 1:

Sure. I don't mind. No. It's hot. It's sweaty.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's true. So, of course, I went to... It was actually funny. So I flew to London.

Speaker 2:

I landed in city.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And from there, I could take the train, the GDR.

Speaker 1:

Darklands Light Railway.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Exactly. DLR, all the way to Banks. Yes. And from Banks, that was, like, five minute walk to the hotel.

Speaker 1:

Correct. And you also passed an amazing Indian restaurant then. Potentially. Yeah. No.

Speaker 1:

But there is. You didn't know.

Speaker 2:

And then the venue, the code note was about fifteen minute walk.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

So when I left, I took my gear with me to code note, and then from there, I could go to Liverpool Station, which was next door. Yep. And that had a direct connection to London Heathrow when I was flying back out. Ah. So I didn't have to walk that much, and there was direct connection.

Speaker 2:

So that was good. And then, of course, Heathrow has this really good Heathrow Airport has a really good shop. And I was looking for a nice bottle. They actually did a thing like two bottles for 110. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And they were like proper proper bottles. Nice. But then I saw this Lagavulin. It's the Lagavulin twelve year old, the special release from 2024, which is normally going for about one fifty pounds, and this one was 50% off.

Speaker 1:

Jesus. Nice.

Speaker 2:

So I was like, oh, 70 pounds for a Lagavulin? Yes, please. Yeah. This one is cask strength.

Speaker 1:

So we

Speaker 2:

need some water, which we have here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We have that. So it's 57 percent full. And so I took a sip, and I I left my glass in the kitchen. It was empty. I just left it there.

Speaker 2:

I didn't rinse it out. And in the morning, I walked into the kitchen, and I was like, who's who's burning some stove here? So who's who's... What are the neighbors burning this time? And it was it was...

Speaker 2:

I worked it out. It was just the glass. So it... It's it's proper campfire. So it's

Speaker 1:

But Lagavulin is not a campfire whiskey.

Speaker 2:

No. No. This is a proper campfire whiskey. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Knows of it. But it... I guess depending on an all nighter and it's evaporating may well be the case. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So this one is... I'm just gonna read some of the notes. It's called fireside tales. Glowing embers tame bold smoke into a sweet hush. So it's first fill ex bourbon and refill.

Speaker 1:

First fill ex bourbon. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So it's like a villain character made sweet under the command of active oak, bold smoke quiet... Quietened to a hush, matured first fill ex bourbon refill for a lush and glazed aroma. Thick toffee, vanilla, coconut notes unfurling with aromatic aromatic spice. Testimonyx dynamic influence on bold character.

Speaker 2:

Powerful peat tempers into inviting sweetness. Made for the curious at heart.

Speaker 1:

Curious at heart.

Speaker 2:

Yes. And we are.

Speaker 1:

By the way, says on the front, for a lush glazed aroma.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. I like the the picture that they put on the bottle. It's it's like a proper campfire thing, and this is a campfire.

Speaker 2:

I mean, the Lagavulin sixteen is rich, powerful, sweet, and this is bolder, but also just more smoky.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So this is what what Holly said. She ate my whiskey.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Now this is a proper Eilee handshake rather than a polite introduction. Yeah. You've got the Lagerville in 12 year old cast strength, one of the special releases that Diageo puts out, and it's quite a different beast from the regular 16 year old.

Speaker 2:

It is. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

First fill ex bourbon and refill American oak with no sherry influences at all, which is nice. And natural cask strength. Your bottling looks to be around the mid to high fifties depending on the release year. So, apparently, it's varied. But on...

Speaker 1:

So we should get maritime smoke, bonfire enders, charred driftwood, lemon zest, and green apple peeking through the peat, sea salt, and there's a slight medicinal note, iodine and bandages. Mhmm. Let's hope not for your sake.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no. No. No. No. I...

Speaker 2:

This this is

Speaker 1:

bit than lefraug.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, you just happen to have a Lefroge on the table.

Speaker 2:

Happen to have a very specific Cardeas French oak here.

Speaker 1:

Twenty twenty six Cardeas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But let's let's keep that for another time. So let's let's focus on the

Speaker 1:

this in a minute.

Speaker 2:

Legavulin. So you nice nose. It's it's a nice nose. It's not in your face. It's a little timid.

Speaker 2:

But if you, like, properly swirl around, you will get, like, proper wood fire. There's proper wood fire in there. Yeah. So let's see how this is cask strength, I would say.

Speaker 1:

After a few noses, you do start to get that vanilla coming through.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. Oh, and it is so nice and sweet. It's smoky, but it's not very... It's it's not peated like a Laphroaig. It's not in your face.

Speaker 2:

I will rip your head off, but this is more elegant. But still smokier. Yes. And way smokier than the 16, I think. 16 is more beated.

Speaker 2:

This is more really like wood smoke. I do get some apples on the aftertaste as well. Yeah. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

This is bloody lovely. Yeah. If there were sheep in the room, they'd be going, Down, Kevin. Down. No.

Speaker 1:

That is nice, my friend. When you showed me the picture the other day and I thought, oh. Oh, yeah. You're right. As it dies away, the fruit starts to lift out.

Speaker 2:

Yep. Those apples come in. Yeah. It's

Speaker 1:

very nice. The skin of the apple. Yes. Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

Just gonna put that down. It's fine. It's there. Yeah. So I can just have a few drops.

Speaker 2:

If it wants to. There we go. Just a few drops in there of water. Swirl that around.

Speaker 1:

Get that iodine. Two or three tastes in. Mhmm. But it doesn't ruin it. This is really nice.

Speaker 1:

I kind of get blackcurrant. Oh. Not apples as such. I'm... I'm now I'm I'm on a two or three last loads in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. If you put some water in, that of course brings out the spices so that now you get a very peppery.

Speaker 1:

Really?

Speaker 2:

Smoky peppery. It's brilliant.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Wow. This is a two for one whiskey, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's nice and mellow when it's

Speaker 1:

comes out on the nose as well with

Speaker 2:

the True. True. Yeah. But it's still a very closed nose, I think.

Speaker 1:

The fire has been put out there on the nose.

Speaker 2:

A little, but it it comes

Speaker 1:

it comes smallest amount of smoke. Yes. It comes now and again.

Speaker 2:

I do, but it it comes back on the, in the throat.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes. That is a far, far better whiskey with the water in it. Mhmm. That's an awesome drink,

Speaker 2:

my friend. It is an awesome drink.

Speaker 1:

I love that on the boat. I think I'm gonna... Damn. Last time I went to England, I bought eight bottles back.

Speaker 2:

Yep. I must

Speaker 1:

not do that again. Problem is that now I'm not only doing consultancy work. I think I'll get paid just before I leave. Yeah. That's not good news.

Speaker 2:

Might be interesting. That

Speaker 1:

is really, really nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I like it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So do I.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's also nice nice and warm.

Speaker 1:

It is. Yeah. It's it's... We're back to a nice fireside whiskey, winter night, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But I mean, for me, for for proper fireside, I would rather go with with a or a Laphroaig or something that's really peaty because that's just a better drink

Speaker 1:

Not sweet spot.

Speaker 2:

Outside. Yeah. Yeah. But this is more something like a pondering whiskey in the evening. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Something like that. This might even pair nice with a cigar. I'm not normally a fan of whiskey and cigars. I'd rather have a rum with

Speaker 1:

my cigar. Really, really forcing it down your neck.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. This... Because it's so... It's pretty sweet, this might work as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I was just looking at what the palette said here. So barbecued citrus black pepper, smoked Yeah. Bacon crisps and grilled shellfish.

Speaker 2:

Yes. That that bacon definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. At kaskarine, the bay... The alcohol carries the flavors rather than overwhelming them. Mhmm. True.

Speaker 1:

For a finish, very, very long. Absolutely. Yeah. Don't get licorice. I normally do spot licorice

Speaker 2:

because I

Speaker 1:

don't always get that. But I didn't notice it this time. Mhmm. Do we get the sea salt?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. There's definitely some salty stuff in there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. The smoke hangs around like the memory of a bonfire on your jacket the following morning.

Speaker 2:

Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So with a little bit of water, neat, you get the full coastal power intensity. So here we go. So a few drops of water, the smoke softens. Yes. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Where now you get more of that vanilla Sure. Oil and sweet Yeah. Cereal notes, and it becomes broader. That is true Mhmm. Rather than just simply strong.

Speaker 2:

True. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nice. Mhmm. Very, very cool. From the Islay, island of Islay, 12 year old at Cask Strength. Does it have any particular name?

Speaker 1:

It doesn't, does it? It's just

Speaker 2:

Well, it's got the... This So every year Fireside Tales. Yeah. So every year, they do a special release.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So it's it's all the Diageo whiskeys that do a special release. Yeah. So when I go to my to my liquor shop, they have all those special releases every

Speaker 1:

year It's next to each

Speaker 2:

The one in Vanaheme.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the one that sells whiskey. I was just just clarifying which shop it was you go to be licked in.

Speaker 2:

It's fine. The liquor shop. Okay. Gotcha. Okay.

Speaker 1:

I can't believe it took you a while to

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It did. Oh, man. So... No.

Speaker 2:

No. They they always have, like, the range, but they're always pretty expensive. And you know me, I'm a cheapskate.

Speaker 1:

I

Speaker 2:

don't wanna shell out that much money all the time. But this one was 70

Speaker 1:

Too difficult to resist. I know you're right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. So this was less than than a sixty year old. So Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know. I'm expecting to have the same bargain on the boat on the way over on Saturday, so I shall... I'll see whether I can find it.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

If not, if I don't find it Saturday, I might phone you up and say pick one up on the way through

Speaker 2:

the airport. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Because you're here to go through the same stuff on the way in Yes. To The UK as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. So

Speaker 1:

nice. Well done, my friend. Exactly. So that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're at forty seven minutes. I'll be doing a short one, or you got something else that you want to talk about. How are you doing with your AI testing? So so for people that pick this up in Hamburg, we're actually doing live podcasts. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And in the afternoon, we're actually kicking off the afternoon session with the afternoon keynote. Yeah. And we're going to be... Every delegate has got the opportunity to fill out a question card that starts with, would you let AI dot dot dot, you know, pick your next Tinder date?

Speaker 2:

Should should we vibe code an

Speaker 1:

app? Vibe code an app. Yeah. That would be boring, nerdy kind of one. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That would be no such fun. But we're also gonna talk about this kind of three areas of kind of personal AI or automation AI. So you already mentioned worker. It worker you mentioned? No.

Speaker 2:

It you. I I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

Oh, coworker.

Speaker 2:

Oh, coworker. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. So you already mentioned coworker. And then we've got the the agent 365, which Mhmm. Is, I think, one day is gonna be quite useful.

Speaker 2:

But Yeah. It's your governor's lair for agents. So...

Speaker 1:

Mhmm. And then, of course, we've got this new scout thing that everybody's busy on our MVP list attempting to get

Speaker 2:

set I'm up and not touching that with a 10 foot ball.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not sure I'm going to either because apparently you need GitHub licenses and everything set up and they're token based licenses.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's already a little expense... Well, expensive. There we go again with the price. I mean, look at the value it's gonna bring us. But just...

Speaker 2:

Just a second.

Speaker 1:

Just a second. Alright. Let's define value for a moment or two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So value is based upon the cost versus the return on investment. Yes. Alright. Mhmm. What are you gonna use Scout for?

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Yeah. I have no idea. No. So I'm I'm happy to shell out €20 in tokens to test what it can do, but I would rather wait for one or two really cool use cases that I could say, you know what?

Speaker 2:

This is something I wanna try out. Yeah. And then I could go in and do that. I mean, I had the same thing with Cowork. Cowork needs Claude as the subprocessor, so you need to enable that.

Speaker 2:

To be honest, I was pretty painless. I had to phone Peter up because I couldn't find the right things to click on. He helped me, but in the end, it was like five minutes of work. And I'm really happy because it can create amazing looking PowerPoint decks. That's what I'm using it for.

Speaker 1:

You can do that from Claude without having to go through

Speaker 2:

I the co working know, this this is just amazing. I can just stay co working.

Speaker 1:

Is that Microsoft went, you know, Copilot's good, but we need we need Something better? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No. No. It's not better because it's got a different skill set. Because for example, Claude doesn't do images very well. ChatGPD does images way better than Claude.

Speaker 1:

Claude does the coding for a

Speaker 2:

PowerPoint presentation. The skills. That's something that is specific with Claude. It can... You can create skills and that that can handle that.

Speaker 2:

But it it can do other things better. So... Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I I try to kinda keep it at a high level. I've I've... Just the way that I'm approaching most of this. Mhmm. So I I find that ChatGPT does great images.

Speaker 1:

So what I do now is when I need a slide, I say, hey, I want an HD image that does blah blah blah, and then that becomes my slide.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Because every time I say, hey, create me a PowerPoint presentation.

Speaker 2:

It's shit. Yeah. It's shit.

Speaker 1:

Plus, yeah. You need your right brain to do the PowerPoint slide. Yeah. And so whenever you say create me a bunch of slides, it has to do seven or eight, 10 things at once depending on how many slides you want. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And I find even all of them, including Claude, may well get there, but you still gotta kind of steer it through. And so with an image, I find that I can take the time to get the image correct. So for example, I was doing one today on a straw man. Do know what a straw man is? Straw man document.

Speaker 1:

Starts off looking like one thing, rip the straw apart, make it somewhere else. So we're kind of looking at hybrid data centers and how we're going to go into the cloud and all that. So I wanted it to create a straw man on four slides. So it starts off this way, then it finishes on that slide this way, and that starts on the next slide. And so I was able to describe each of those images that I wanted to be able to go through the high level process for the next eighteen months.

Speaker 1:

And then from there, I'll build the roadmap down. And I could do that with images very well with Copilot. So I have to say, have not done Coworker yet. I will get around to sorting that out probably this weekend, but I

Speaker 2:

haven't done it. They just released the payment model for this.

Speaker 1:

Pay as you go?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So there's there's some extra payments that need to be set up.

Speaker 1:

Quickly how payments have suddenly appeared, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

I get that. Yeah. Because we're we're being cordially invited to use AI for all of the things that we do, and then it takes an crazy amount of energy to create an AI response. So now that we're all using it, they're running out of energy, and they need to build more data centers and more entry plants. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So they're running out of money

Speaker 1:

Until they can

Speaker 2:

get their quantum Yeah. Stuff Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's cool. But I actually think if we take it as a timeline, it's just 10 times faster than the last kind of innovation, you know?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you look at the time to get to 1,000,000 users from a telephone to a TV to Facebook to chatty pity. Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. But also it's not only that. It's also the functionality and the benefit and the value. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. It's quite cool. Now I get to play with that. But anyway, we'll be talking about that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I've got an amazing AI story. How AI helped me. How AI helped you?

Speaker 1:

Help you do what?

Speaker 2:

Well, so one of the fun thing is that whenever I try to do something with AI, the results are always like, no. Okay. And so I bought a new PC, a new big box of games and all that. Yeah, exactly. That's what my that's why my bookkeeper also said like, finally you,

Speaker 1:

my Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I bought a new one and I phoned up my dad and I said, do you want my old one? Because it's still pretty good. It's just not as quick as I would like it to be. And it's five years old, but it still runs Windows 11, whatever. So he said, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2:

I said, you know what? I'll get you a new hard drive, a new SSD hard drive because the one that that was in, that was a a regular hard drive, a big one, and then a small SSD. But I was the... I thought that the SSD was a little failing. That's why it was lagging up so much.

Speaker 2:

So I... When I went to the store to buy my new PC, I also bought a new SSD And I've been fixing up computers before, was building them before, so I know I know how to do that. So I opened up the case and then I was like, I don't see any SSD drive. Because now SSD drives, they look like little RAM chips. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So they're tiny. But I was looking at the front of the motherboard, was looking at the back of the motherboard, could find the big hard drive, could... I took that out and I was looking and I couldn't see it anywhere. So I took an image of the motherboard with my phone and I said to ChatGPT I want to replace my SSD back. I can't find it.

Speaker 1:

Got it.

Speaker 2:

And ChatGPT said well it's it's it's gonna be so it's it's this motherboard that you have It's gonna be between the processor and your GPU. But it's probably gonna be underneath your GPU because you've got a big GPU. It's an RTX twenty sixty whatever. So what you need to do is you need to pull that that thing, that GPU out, and it's probably gonna be underneath. So I was like, okay.

Speaker 2:

So I just

Speaker 1:

Trusted that GPT immediately.

Speaker 2:

It's just plugging it out. So, I mean, it... I had to All 110

Speaker 1:

pins need to be realigned.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. And guess what I found yesterday on my table? One one one screw that is from somewhere in the computer. I got it.

Speaker 2:

So I unscrewed it. I took the GPU out, and indeed, there was the little SSD underneath the the GPU. And I was like, awesome. That helped me.

Speaker 1:

Nice. So it

Speaker 2:

was good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Left brain stuff. Yep. You know, normally where you would work out that is a cocoon.

Speaker 1:

I I like that.

Speaker 2:

Because I didn't build the PC back in the day. I just bought it prebuilt, and now I just want to replace something. And I couldn't find it and said, yep. There... That's where it is.

Speaker 2:

Nice. Yeah. Nice. Nice. I was very happy about that.

Speaker 1:

Yep. Good. Good. Good. Alright.

Speaker 1:

Cool. Well, there you go. That just took us to fifty six minutes. That's it. Nice.

Speaker 1:

On a hot sweaty evening here in Antwerp, I think fifty six minutes is more than

Speaker 2:

It's more than enough. Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So I really enjoyed this. It was a bit of a mixed bag, a bit of consultancy, a bit of AI stuff, a bit of experience Yeah. Sort of, I'm guessing this would probably be one of the last ones in the summer because by the time we come back from our travels, it'll be July.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We'll have to work out what we're gonna do over the summer or not. Yeah. We'll take it from there. So, hey, Steve Dalby here. Office 360s five Distilled.

Speaker 1:

Hope you're having fun, and I wish you the best of the summer holidays. And Marijn says, bye bye.