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Real conversations about following Jesus when life doesn't slow down — from a pastor who's still figuring it out too.
Why is there so much confusion about what a biblical marriage is? It always seems like whatever role you've got or whatever rule you've got to follow, is that really what biblical marriage is supposed to look like? Well, let's talk about it.
Kristi:So today, we're gonna talk about something, biblical marriage.
Greg:Alright. Sounds good.
Kristi:You haven't had a whole lot of warning about what we're gonna talk about, and I chose this because we've got an anniversary coming up in a couple of weeks.
Greg:Yeah. Very soon. We're celebrating our, what, fifth anniversary?
Kristi:Five times six. What's that?
Greg:Well, I'm not good at math, but I know it's 30 because we're doing our thirtieth anniversary in just a few weeks. Yes.
Kristi:This was on my mind, and so this is why I chose it. And I'm gonna shoot some questions to you, and then we'll just discuss them Alright. Because there's a whole world culture view of marriage, but we really shouldn't even pay attention to that. We should pay attention to what God tells us about marriage. So that's why we're talking about what biblical marriage is Alright.
Greg:Well, let's dig in.
Kristi:Alright. First question is, we're always there's lots of scriptures about marriage, but in Ephesians it talks a lot about the model of marriage with Jesus. So what does it mean for a husband to love his wife as Christ loved the church?
Greg:It means Go. A lot of responsibility is what it means. I know a lot of times, and you I think you're probably gonna get to this, but everybody, you hear the wife submit to your husband thing, all that, but that second part's left out. It's wife submit to your husbands. Woo hoo.
Greg:Guys love that. Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church. How did Christ love the church? He gave everything.
Kristi:That was my next question. Yeah. So
Greg:He died for the church, which means husbands, we must sacrifice our own wants, our own desires, our own preferences in order to benefit our wife and our family. Our family comes first. It's all about sacrifice.
Kristi:That's a lot of pressure.
Greg:It's a lot of pressure. Women get off easy on this one. You gotta submit. We gotta die. So, you know.
Kristi:Sounds about right.
Greg:Yeah. Women hear the submit to your husband's things and people grope about it. We're gonna talk about I'm just saying. Gotta die. A man gotta die figuratively.
Greg:Maybe not always, but figuratively in that passage, love your wives as Christ loved the church. We have to die to self and put our wives and our family's needs above our own.
Kristi:That is. That's a that's a big a big weight.
Greg:It's a
Kristi:I can
Greg:say that. And
Kristi:I don't think that unless we have really studied that, I didn't know that for a long time, how heavy of a weight it is.
Greg:Nobody talks about it. Everybody talks about why I've submitted.
Kristi:Yeah. Yeah.
Greg:Okay. Because that doesn't sound good.
Kristi:Get off the submit thing. We'll get
Greg:to Fellas die. You got to die.
Kristi:Alright. So you already talked about what Christ's love looks like.
Greg:Yeah, it's sacrificial love. Yeah.
Kristi:Sacrificial love. Because he he died for us, and that's what men have to do for their wives and families. Yes. Okay.
Greg:Hopefully, figuratively.
Kristi:Alright. Loving your wife, and I've heard men use this as an argument, not you, of course, but the world, saying, you know, I I work hard. I provide. What else am I supposed to do? You you know, that kind of thing.
Kristi:It was like, does loving your wife mean simply providing for her?
Greg:No. I've talked about them before, and I just came from a men's conference, and he brought this up again. Joby Martin, the pastor down in, Jacksonville, Florida uses this, it's it's biblical, the role of a man in the family. That's to be the provider, the protector, the priest, and the prophet. It's the four p's.
Greg:I've just thought about that. That's the Southern Baptist background coming out into my gets. Provider, protector, priest, and prophet. That's our role, in in the family. To be a provider is exactly what you just said.
Greg:We I mean, scripture says if you don't provide for your family, you're worse than an unbeliever and whatever in the world that means because it kinda sucks for an unbeliever. You go to hell. Does that mean there's, like, a worse part?
Kristi:Worse than that.
Greg:I don't know. Because, I mean, if you don't provide for your family, then you aren't doing what God's called you to do. So you need to be a provider. Protector means that we we're on the front line making sure our family is protected spiritually and physically. Mhmm.
Greg:We we have to be there in the front. To be a a priest is to minister to our families and to take care of the spiritual needs. To be a prophet is to speak truth into our families, to make sure that they know the word of God and that we are speaking that into them. That's our role.
Kristi:So the priest and prophet kind of go hand in hand there.
Greg:They're kind of hand in hand. Provider, protector, prophet, and priest. That's what we've gotta do.
Kristi:I like that. You haven't shared that with me from the conference. I like that.
Greg:Yeah. Well, it actually comes out of his book, and it actually, comes out of the bible.
Kristi:But, you know I think the bible, trumps that. Alright. So, kind of getting into the submission, just touching on it for a minute. Does husband's leadership mean that he gets final say?
Greg:If he's leading scripturally, yes. But he's gotta be leading scripturally. It it doesn't mean that he's wielding his power and he's in charge. It means he's running everything. And really, I mean, when it gets down to it, marriage isn't a a wife is submit and a husband is like the boss.
Greg:It is a partnership. And in all partnerships, somebody has somebody has to take the lead role. Right. And God has ordained it that the husband takes the lead role. So it does he have final say?
Greg:Yes. As long as it lines up with scripture. If it lines up with his personal preference, no.
Kristi:Right.
Greg:It's all about whether it lines up with scripture. He's gotta be the priest and the prophet to make sure it's lining up with scripture, and he's speaking that into his family.
Kristi:So what are some ways that you have seen sacrificial love change our marriage?
Greg:How have I seen sacrificial love change our marriage?
Kristi:Well, I've seen, and you know, I I look at our marriage, and I mean, I know I do a lot of things and do a lot of actions for you and for the family, but I don't know. It just is different for me when you are sacrificial. And I mean, you you do things all the time, and you might not even it might be something I'm like, oh, Greg did that, or Greg look, I've seen you change, I've seen our marriage change mainly to me because of you, and how you have transformed over the years to be more like that. I mean, we're not the same people
Greg:Gosh, I hope not.
Kristi:That we were when we got married, and our marriage has grown leaps and bounds from what it was when we first got got married. Yeah. And you're and and I'm not trying to pump you up, but due to your leadership, really.
Greg:Well, I don't know if that's a 100% accurate, but thank you.
Kristi:It is.
Greg:I guess the biggest place I see sacrificial love play out in our marriage, I think we put each other first. And not in everything. I mean, because we're human beings and there are things that we like that we want to do, so sometimes we don't do that. But overall, I think we I don't think we put ourselves first most of the time. I think we compromise really well and sacrificial love, it I mean, it's not just about, you know, giving your life, it's about giving everything.
Greg:And I think even down to the small things, which, you know, we fight over fight over, not really fight. We discuss, you know, which restaurant we're go eat at. Oh, yeah. I hate We're always trying to defer to each other, which actually causes arguments sometimes. Like, just pick.
Greg:Just pick. I actually saw I meant to tell you this. I actually saw a food truck the other day. I didn't tell you this to saw a food truck the other day, and the name of the food truck, it was down at Sam's Club sitting in the parking lot. They you know how they set up sometimes.
Greg:The name of the food truck was I don't care. And it said, like the most requested restaurant by wives or something along those lines. Like, that's perfect. That's perfect. The name of it is I don't care.
Greg:And that's usually your response.
Kristi:Where do
Greg:wanna go in? Care. Alright. Let's go to
Kristi:that food truck. I think a lot of that is I just don't wanna make another decision. I just my brain's full. Just pick something, but then you say, oh, no. But then you will veto it.
Kristi:But Yeah. We have veto power.
Greg:Yeah. We do. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of a silly illustration, but that's just a symptom. You know?
Greg:I I really feel like in our marriage, we do a a good job of that. We didn't used to. But we're thirty years into this, and I guess we're gonna make it another thirty if we are able to live that long. Yeah. I don't know.
Kristi:I'm about living.
Greg:We I think we've both learned that it takes give and take. You know, there's gotta be sacrifice in that. Yeah. And so I I think it's the subtle things. I don't think it's a dramatic Yeah.
Greg:I don't huge he gave this or she gave that. I think it's a subtle sacrifice in our desires for the other one.
Kristi:Well, marriage the movies and the culture make it seem like this big, like, you know, running toward each other in a field kinda thing. Yeah. And it's not. It's it's the it might start that way, you know, that all those fluttery, cushy, lovey feelings, but it's that's not what marriage is. It gets into the nitty gritty dirt of everyday living.
Greg:Although this Friday, we get to have our first date in a long time because school's back in session, and I know you're gonna be running to me like you're in a meadow and just give me a hug like the kids are in school. It's gonna be awesome. We get to go out to eat and go to Sam's Yeah.
Kristi:Well, I I did an order yesterday, though. We might not need to go
Greg:to Sam's there just because that's what we
Kristi:We'll go eat the pizza there for our meal. We've done that.
Greg:Yes. We have.
Kristi:Alright. What does biblical submission actually mean, and what does it not mean? Here's the submission.
Greg:Alright. So you're talking about from, you know, scripturally, the wife submits
Kristi:to the In in Ephesians five twenty one through 24, it talks about women submit to your husbands.
Greg:Well, biblical submission is not that you are that I am your like master or you are at my beck and call. That's not what biblical submission is.
Kristi:Now you're telling me.
Greg:It gets twisted that way.
Kristi:Thirty years in.
Greg:I mean, get me a Diet Coke lady. No.
Kristi:I'm just kidding. Don't you snap at me.
Greg:That's not what biblical submission is. It is submitting to the husband's leadership in, like, the big decisions of the home, like raising children Mhmm. Submitting to the husband's leadership. Now submitting to the husband's leadership doesn't mean I've got authority to just say, we're doing it this way. It's discussion.
Kristi:Right. It's a part
Greg:of leadership. We come to a decision, and you submit to that, and I die.
Kristi:You're really hung up on this dying thing.
Greg:Well, it kinda hurts when you read that one.
Kristi:But Yeah. But I mean that is a lot.
Greg:Yeah. I I think we've really got the submission idea confused Yeah. On what it is.
Kristi:Oh, I've heard people who won't even say that in their wedding vows, where, they obey, they they, like, want that omitted. Yeah. And because people have this mixed up connotation of what what God's actually telling us today.
Greg:And it really goes to, I think, why people are like that is because so many husbands, and I've been there, and I'm still there sometime. We're not leading scripturally. So if we're not leading scripturally, then why would you submit to me? That because I'm not following the Lord. I'm following what I want.
Greg:That's not biblical.
Kristi:Right.
Greg:Biblical is you submit to my lead as prophet and priest in the home.
Kristi:Like, what what would be an example of that where the man says this, but it's not biblical? Like, give a everyday example.
Greg:Well, I mean, you go to, the man says, we're buying a new car. We don't have the money to buy. I'm getting me a eighty five thousand dollar truck. Now that that it's gonna be more than our house payment, but we're doing it because I want that truck. That's not biblical.
Greg:We ain't got the money to do that. Right. So you should not submit to that. You should say, no. We are not doing that.
Greg:But if we need a vehicle and we can afford a $25,000 15 year old pickup truck, because that's probably not gonna happen nowadays. But and we can swing that and, you know, just in in things like it's being wise in your finances, being wise in parenting, and always lining up with scripture. Mhmm. I'm not great at that all the time because Greg wants what Greg wants.
Kristi:You've never tried to buy an $85,000 vehicle, though?
Greg:That's just because the bank would've saved
Kristi:me an idiot. They won't approve of that, will they? Alright. So submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Greg:Yeah. That that's the other part of that people leave out.
Kristi:Yeah. There's more.
Greg:Read that again. Submitting what?
Kristi:Submitting to one another Oh. Out of reverence for Christ.
Greg:Submitting to one another. Guys don't like to hear that part. Yeah. Which means you get a say too.
Kristi:Yeah. And that that's the one of the the topics here, does biblical submission mean a wife has no voice? No.
Greg:It does not mean that. I'm not your lord. You got one lord, and his name's Jesus. Right. I'm just in the the final leadership role in the house, but we lead together.
Kristi:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, somebody has to if there's a a conflict and there's not an agreement, somebody has to make the decision. The decision has to be made. And God said that is the place for men, and that kinda gets into the the respect.
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:And we'll talk about that
Greg:in a be fair, it's kinda easy for us. Yeah. Because we agree on 95% of the things we gotta do. And the things we don't agree on, they're usually, like, minor things. Mhmm.
Greg:It's not like anything major. So I know there's couples that'll probably hear this and are like, my husband's an idiot, and I can't do that. Or my wife just wants to do this and that. And we we haven't really, for the most part, haven't had to deal with that. So understand that there are there's causes a lot of conflict that we don't have to deal with.
Kristi:So what what do people do when they're in marriages like that that don't get along very often? Like, there's there's some disconnection there with them and the Lord, don't you think?
Greg:That's it. I mean, if there is constant conflict in a marriage, something's not lined up with scripture. I mean, he isn't, she isn't, they both aren't, one of the two. Sometimes the conflict's brought on by a kid that's not lined up with scripture, and you disagree on how to handle that situation. I mean, could be all kinds of things, but it's always the root of it's, in my opinion, always spiritual.
Kristi:But because if you were doing what God tells you to do, both of you are doing it, there shouldn't be conflict because there's this pretty Yeah. Cut and dry.
Greg:Because I don't have to be right. Scripture's right. What? I mean, I'm usually am, but
Kristi:He is. He is. He's usually right. I've I've admitted to that.
Greg:That's what you gotta learn. We don't have to be. I I don't mean you. I mean, that's what we have to learn. I don't have to be right.
Greg:Scripture's right. I just gotta line up with that.
Kristi:Alright. Okay. So, does biblical submission mean tolerating mistreatment, manipulation, or sin?
Greg:Absolutely not. Right. Now you if if someone's listening to this and they're being mistreated, abused, however that looks in your marriage, or infidelity in a marriage, no. That does not have to be tolerated. That needs to be dealt with.
Greg:With an open honest conversation, sometimes you gotta bring in other people, maybe the pastor of your church or a counselor or sometimes legal authorities. I mean, it just depends on what it is. But Right. No. You don't submit if you are being obedient.
Kristi:You don't have to take it just because it says
Greg:Absolutely not.
Kristi:Submission when it's something like that.
Greg:Because if that's the case, say a woman is experiencing that, well, the husband is not loving you sacrificially like Christ. Right. You don't submit to to un Christ like authority.
Kristi:Right. That's a good way to say that. Alright. So here's the next question. You ready?
Greg:I'm ready.
Kristi:We kinda talked about this already, but Good.
Greg:It should be a real quick one.
Kristi:Should husbands and wives have equal authority in marriage?
Greg:Yes and no. Somebody's gonna have the final say. Right. But it should never be, like, I'm never going to I probably have done this, so I shouldn't say I'm never going to. It I'm I never want it to be that's my decision.
Kristi:Really?
Greg:Maybe in some small things, you know. If I really wanna go eat at Cracker Barrel, that's my decision. No. No. And the big things, it needs to be both of us having a conversation.
Greg:And then you if you can't come to an agreement, somebody's gotta somebody's gotta make the final call.
Kristi:Right. Right. And and it's, talking about what equal means. What does equal mean?
Greg:Equal means that I have the same value as you have. There is no difference in my worth versus your worth. You bring just as much to the marriage as I bring to the marriage. What I do in as my part of the marriage is not any more important than what you do. We just got different roles.
Greg:Mhmm. Right. That's that's what equal means. It doesn't mean the same. It means and when God looks at us, he looks at us equally, but he doesn't look at us and say, Greg is the same as Christie.
Greg:No. Greg has a different calling on his life. I
Kristi:thought you said Craig, and I'm like Greg. Who's Craig?
Greg:Your husband is named Greg.
Kristi:Oh, okay. Sorry.
Greg:Greg is not the same as Christie. I have a different calling and a different role. You are not the same as me. You have a different calling and a different role, but we are equal in value. There's there's no difference in our worth.
Kristi:Mhmm. Alright. We've talked about a few of these kind of topics I'll skip over. But so healthy decision making, what does that look like when spouses have different opinions?
Greg:That can get pretty complicated, I think. You've both gotta be spiritually mature enough to go on your own, take your opinion, each of you, find scripture that applies to it and say, does my opinion align with scripture? The tricky part is sometimes both your opinions align with scripture. You know, just because you have a different thought on it and I have a different thought on it doesn't mean it's unbiblical or sinful. Mhmm.
Greg:That's when it gets complicated. You've gotta you've gotta work that out and discuss it. And then at some point, somebody's gotta make the decision. It's not easy, but at some point, somebody's gotta make the decision. In the big things, like parenting, all those kind of things, and the big decisions, there's usually only one way to go that lines up with scripture.
Greg:But in in smaller things, sometimes it's just I'm gonna submit to this both ways. You know? I'm gonna love you sacrificially enough to say, I don't like that color of paint you wanna put on the wall. It's not sinful to do it, and we're gonna do it. So, it it really depends on what the the decision is, but make sure you're both lined up with scripture.
Greg:If one of you is not lined up with scripture, the other one obviously wins. But if you're both lined up with scripture, you just gotta find a way to compromise.
Kristi:So much of, I think, marriage problems and what causes so much conflict is husbands and wives just aren't communicating. They're just not talking about this. They're
Greg:they're Why? Because we got kids, most husbands and wives, and when we actually have time to talk
Kristi:You're falling asleep because it's 11:00. Yeah.
Greg:I just wanna veg out and watch something on television while I well, pretend like I'm watching it while I'm sleeping.
Kristi:That is one thing, the importance of having date
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:Date times where you can talk. And, of course, you don't want your dates just to be a board meeting and,
Greg:you know, going over topics. Part of it. I mean Right. That always needs to be if that's the only time you got to do it. Yeah.
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:So when you have a big disagreement, an important disagreement on a big topic, what do you do when you strongly disagree with your spouse?
Greg:Yeah. Well, if you if you feel like if you've gone through that kinda thing we talked about where you gotta make sure you're both lined up with scripture, and you feel like you both are, and you just can't come to an agreement on it, then and really this is the husband's role to take the leadership in this. Go seek wise counsel. Yeah. Yeah.
Greg:Go to your pastor. Go to a trusted, elder of the church or a leader in the church. I wouldn't really go to necessarily your best friends because they're typically gonna place odds.
Kristi:Depends.
Greg:It depends. But, I mean, typically, they do.
Kristi:A real good best friend's gonna tell you the truth.
Greg:That's true. But they're always biased. Just saying. Maybe. I I would probably find a pastor, and maybe maybe it's you talk to your pastor and maybe the relationship's too close, so you ask, you recommend another one for me to go talk to that's just a neutral observer in this and can can bring something to this?
Greg:It's gotta be a pretty big discussion. But sometimes you need professional help, you know, even beyond a pastor. Find a counselor, but here here's the important part. Find a Christian couples counselor. Don't just go find anybody.
Greg:Find a Christian couples counselor who can walk through that with you. Because there are things that are just too big to deal with on your own. And the man needs to be big enough to say, we're getting help.
Kristi:Right. And and let I mean, pride is a sin. Don't let pride get in your way, and don't and when you first said that about seeking wise counsel, you know, I've I've got a lot of human in me, and the first thing I thought an argument would be were like, oh, they're just gonna take their side. Yeah. That and that
Greg:That's why it needs to be neutral.
Kristi:Yes.
Greg:It Not a friend.
Kristi:Right. Yeah. And I understand that. But that is just showing when you have that attitude, you're not lining up with scripture. You're I mean, because you're you're worried about being right.
Kristi:You're you're worried about it can be really complicated.
Greg:Yeah. It can be.
Kristi:Alright. And number five, what keeps a Christian marriage from becoming just two people living in the same house? So how are you how do you not become roommates?
Greg:Well, I think the biggest thing really, there's probably two big things that there's probably one, but two big things that jump out to me that cause that. When when the kids come first Mhmm. Kids don't come first. Each other comes first. The Lord comes first.
Greg:But in the relationship, you come first. I come first for you. You come first for me. Kids aren't first. Sometimes career comes first.
Greg:If either of those two things are coming before your spouse, then you are gonna just end up being a roommate.
Kristi:Alright. You're just existing. Yeah.
Greg:That that's the two biggest in my opinion, that's the two biggest things that cause that. When when your your work life, your business life, or your career come first, or when it's always about the kids.
Kristi:Mhmm. Well, I've and I've heard of people who've been married for thirty, forty years, and their kids are grown, and they leave, and they've been focusing on those kids for so many years, they don't know each other anymore. They don't know each other at all, and they end up getting a divorce because they don't even know who they're married to. And that leads into this question, what does it mean to actually know your spouse?
Greg:You've gotta spend that time getting to know them. And, you know, there we've gone through the book, the five love languages, but it it's an accurate thing. You've gotta know what what your spouse needs. And what we have found out over the years is it changes as we age. We need different things.
Kristi:Yeah.
Greg:So you've gotta be constantly just like, what do you need? What do you need? Looking for what that is, and and then do that.
Kristi:Right. And one way to find out because it does change. Like you said, you need to look at how your spouse loves you that it might not
Greg:have You said pointed that out, and I don't know that I ever picked up on that. But yeah, we do. I love you with what I want you to do for me and vice versa.
Kristi:Yeah.
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:It's it's totally different. Mine have a couple of mine have changed in the past twenty years total. So
Greg:I should buy you a new truck?
Kristi:No. It's still not gifts. I I I don't No.
Greg:No. No. I'm gonna love you like I want you to.
Kristi:No. No. No. No. You you're you have to look at me how I'm loving you.
Greg:Yeah. But if I buy you a new truck, then you'll just give it to me.
Kristi:How are we still married? Alright. So are you still dating each other?
Greg:That's I mean, we we know how important that is, and we haven't been able to do that through the summer. And it
Kristi:Yeah. It's after kids, it's so so important.
Greg:And I wouldn't say it's like drove a wedge between us, but I don't I mean, we have not been able to communicate Mhmm. For the last two and a half months on a regular basis, and I miss that.
Kristi:Me too.
Greg:So I can't wait till Friday. And we I mean, we have found time to do a couple of dates, but they're like really quick and like, you know, we've not been able to to spend a lot of time doing those kind of things. It is so important to still still date it. It doesn't have to be some grand Oh, no. Thing.
Greg:I mean, for us, the kids go to school, we go to Sam's. And I know that sounds silly, but it's spending time together talking in the car, or sometimes just spending time together. Yeah. Grabbing a bite to eat, and just
Kristi:Just time without interruption from anybody.
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:It I mean and we're we're pretty good at this. Some you seem to always get the same phone call from the same two people on our daydays for some reason. But
Greg:You know who she's talking about if you're listening, Jesse And
Kristi:there's another one. It's okay, Jesse. It's okay. But I think we're pretty good at ignoring everything.
Greg:Yeah. Make it a priority. I mean, it's Yeah. If you don't do that, you're gonna just become roommates.
Kristi:Right.
Greg:Gotta spend time together.
Kristi:Alright. What about praying together? And we're not great at that.
Greg:We are not great at that, and I I do have guilt about that. But but we do, and it's not like we never pray together, but we're not great at doing it regularly. But I know I, and from what you tell me, you
Kristi:From what you tell me.
Greg:I mean, I'm not with you when this happens, so I but you tell me this, We pray for each other all the time. And I we even though we may not be and praying together is important, don't take me wrong. Even though we may not be doing that, we're having spiritual conversations all the time.
Kristi:Oh,
Greg:yeah. We're always talking about what God's doing and what our hopes are and all those kind of things. I don't know. Prayer for me has just always been more of a private thing.
Kristi:Yeah. Me me too. And I I don't I'm not against it.
Greg:There's times when I've I've needed to do that. Yeah. We've needed that together. Yeah.
Kristi:It's not a regular thing for us. But some I know some couples who do that daily
Greg:Yeah.
Kristi:With each other, and that that builds them, brings them closer together.
Greg:And and we should do it more than we do. I'll agree with that. But Right. I pray for you pretty much every day. Only days I don't pray for you are when I'm having a one of those days, and I probably shouldn't say this as a pastor.
Greg:Forget. And but I just don't pray, period.
Kristi:Oh, okay. That's better than forgetting about me.
Greg:And when I pray, you are you are the one of the priorities that I pray for, you and the kids. I pray for you every single day. And
Kristi:and there's some things we've already touched on, having meaningful conversations. Yeah. I think you've got to be doing that. You've you've got to be connecting on more than, okay, who's gonna pick up the kids here? Who's gonna do you know, things like that.
Kristi:That's not meaningful. That's just daily routines. Are you laughing together? I think Yeah.
Greg:Usually laughing at each other. When you tell a joke that's not funny, I laugh because you think it is.
Kristi:I'll never laugh at you.
Greg:Okay.
Kristi:Alright. Are you pursuing God individually and together? You've touched on that. And, the big question is, are we simply functioning together, Are we actually doing life together?
Greg:That's that's the way you look at it right there. It's not I mean, scripture says when you become when you're married, you become one, which means you gotta do life together. Right. I mean, for us, everything is one. You know?
Greg:We could make a whole podcast about this, but, you know, even down to don't keep separate bank accounts. It's all one. It's all everything is one.
Kristi:Right. Yeah. It's it's never been your money, my money ever since the beginning because we didn't have enough to split up anyway.
Greg:Always been your money. We know.
Kristi:Please. We we know the truth there.
Greg:Yeah. I'm gonna cover up my shoes.
Kristi:Shoes, cameras. Alright. I'm buying from Sheen. Okay. So that kind of sums up you know, it's we didn't dive into every little nook and cranny biblical marriage.
Kristi:It's too long.
Greg:Comment our marriage, and hopefully that helps people. Yeah. That that's how we approach it.
Kristi:Right.
Greg:It's not the only way. I mean, a lot of that is the only way when we're talking about lining up with scripture, but that's how we do it. It doesn't work exactly like that for everybody.
Kristi:Oh, yeah. Everybody's different. The principles know each other, spend time together, grow spiritually together. All all those things, all of these little conflicts just kind of work themselves out Yeah. When you are putting the Lord first and your spouse second.
Greg:Yep.
Kristi:And the kids even that's hard for a mama to say because, you know, and I'm sure it is you too. But mama hearts are different. But we've got to put each other first. Yeah. This was this episode.
Kristi:So the next episode we're gonna do, we're going to get a little more personal.
Greg:Oh, I I think I'm not gonna be available.
Kristi:And I've got five things, five questions, and we're gonna talk about what we wish someone had told us about marriage back in the day.
Greg:Well, will be interesting.
Kristi:Because you don't know anything about marriage until you're married. Might think you do
Greg:That's true.
Kristi:But you don't. Alright. So we'll, hit on that on our next episode.
Greg:Yes. Thank you for joining us. This is the God Made Podcast because we we like to talk about, you know, how God's working in our lives because we know Sunday doesn't fix everything. So we will see you on the next episode of the God Made Podcast.