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Explore UFOs, Nephilim giants, biblical prophecy, and supernatural phenomena with author and researcher L.A. Marzulli. Each episode dives into current events and ancient mysteries through the lens of politics, faith, and end-times insight.
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Speaker 2:I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder and weirder. And finally, it's going to be so weird that people are going to have to talk about how weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew. Today, my guest is L.
Speaker 2:A. Marzulli. Check out our merch shop. We've got logo tee, shirts from the films, hoodies. Use the link in the description to go check that out.
Speaker 2:Watch my films, Occult Louisiana's on Tubi, Doors of Perception on Amazon Prime. I am booking guests for December. If you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest, email me ForbiddenKnowledgeNews@Gmail.com. Today, wanna welcome back to the show L. A.
Speaker 2:Marzulli. He is an author, lecturer, and filmmaker. He has penned several books, including the Nephilim trilogy and the film series on the Trail of the Nephilim. L. A, welcome back.
Speaker 2:How you doing?
Speaker 3:Really good. Thanks for having me back. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yes. Thanks so much for coming on. Today, we're gonna be getting into your book, Rungs of Disclosure. It interprets modern UFO phenomena, government disclosure, and even military testimonies through a biblical and prophetic framework. There are so many events unfolding right now that surround disclosure, all seeming to have a common theme.
Speaker 2:These beings are coming from different planets and star systems. Some are malevolent, and some of our, quote, unquote, star family coming to save us from the evil extraterrestrials. And you've been deep into this research for a long time. Today, we're gonna get even deeper into your current understanding of what is really unfolding. Before we do, remind the audience a little bit about yourself and let them know how they can find more.
Speaker 3:Yeah. By the grace of the lord and his favor, there are 16 books that I've written and 34 films. So there's a a corpus of work here. We can touch on some of it. Obviously, people need to do their homework.
Speaker 3:There are 10 UFO films right here. 10 films. We're the only Christian ministry that has 10 films, everything from Close Encounters of the First, Second, Third, Fourth, and Fifth Kind, Catamutilations, Abductions, Crop Circles, two films on Roswell, Finally, What is the Truth? And rungs of disclosure, the revised edition, which is out now, you know, we we... Originally, there was only 16 or 17 rungs on that ladder as we go up.
Speaker 3:Now there's like basically 30. It's not going away. I've been saying it's a phrase I coined in 1998. UFO is a real versioning not going away, and it's exactly where we are. And that that phrase was actually in our very first Watchers film.
Speaker 3:So l.a.marzulli.com, l.a.marzulli.com. You can stream any of our films for $0.99 And the reason why we lowered the price, there's no excuse anymore. You know, if you can't afford $0.99 I'll buy it for you. Okay? Right.
Speaker 3:And I mean, maybe you should get a job someplace. But we lowered it so people can, you know, access. We want thousands of people to access it because this is it. It's coming down. It really is.
Speaker 3:It's coming down.
Speaker 2:What are your thoughts on the events that have recently been unfolding? We have this Grush character going on Rogan talking about battles with reptilians. Mhmm. More and more of what seems to be extraterrestrial propaganda is coming out of our mainstream media and even government. There does seem to be a split in perception within the government of what is even really happening.
Speaker 2:So what are your thoughts on everything?
Speaker 3:Well, the bottom line is for the last seventy nine years, and that that is used in the Steven Spielberg film Disclosure Day, but seventy nine year old terror campaign has to end. And one of the earlier trailers, he said, the seventy nine year cover up has to stop or end, whatever. So the bottom line has been seventy nine years of deny, deny, deny, deny, deny. And with Donald Trump, you can hate him or love him, whatever. But it's the first time in history where our government has opened up with...
Speaker 3:And all these files, remember this, we're up to the seventh tranche of files released by the government. And a tranche is just a small segment of a greater whole. So who knows what they have? Pig... Piggyback on that last statement.
Speaker 3:We know that Tim Birchett, who's one of our representatives of Tennessee, stated on the record, it's one of the rungs of disclosure actually. If the American people saw what I saw or knew what I knew, they'd be up at night. And he's right. So 05/08/2026 was the first tranche that was released, always on a Friday. Last Friday, they released the seventh tranche.
Speaker 3:My informal co host, Deb, and I have, she usually comes on once a week and we've been talking about these tranches and you know she's incredible because she's a an art historian, she's a professional artist, she's taught at the collegiate level, the the graduate level so she's way up there teaching you know art studies and and all. Mean, she's amazing. So she looks at all these videos and stuff and she creates her own video and that's what we walk through on the show, which is very informative to the folks. So what we have is an unprecedented moment in time where the war department on May 8 released the first tranche. And again, we are up to the seventh rungs of disclosure that we keep going up the ladder of disclosure.
Speaker 3:You mentioned David Grush or David Grouch. His... He comes on, I believe he's the fifteenth rung on the ladder. Let me just go here. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He's the fifteenth rung, the whistleblower David, David Grouch right here in the run of disclosure. So he's the fifteenth rung, and in that, he is under oath in congress, and he's being interviewed by representative Nancy Mace. Now this is a couple years ago. Right?
Speaker 3:And she says, do we have crash craft? And he looks right up at her and says, I've already given that statement in my, News Nation interview, but it's right there. But the short answer was yes. Okay. So we we have crash craft in our possession.
Speaker 3:So Nancy Mays follows it up. Well, do we have the pilots from his crash craft? And he looks up at her. He's under oath, remember? He says, yes.
Speaker 3:We have the biologics taken from these these wrecks, These crashed discs. And she says, well, are they human or non human biologics? Looks right up at her, telling the truth as he knows it, non human biologics. I about fell out of my chair because that's that's that's a Rubicon. I mean, that's what do you...
Speaker 3:What what do we do with that? Is he telling the truth? Well, there were hit pieces on on Grush and all this other stuff. I believe he's telling the truth. And recently on Joe Rogan and and we actually did a a walk through on this, Deb and I, on my show, with the reptilians and the grays and people have been asking me about this.
Speaker 3:This firefight, that's old news for us. This has been leaked out years ago in in in the UFO community. I recently had Corey Good on my show. I don't really know who he is. I do.
Speaker 3:But... Okay. Corey was, you know, up to his eyeballs in the other side of the aisle when it comes to old... The old UFO disclosure thing. And he rededicated his life to Jesus.
Speaker 3:Hallelujah. So, you know, it's just pretty amazing and he's been up to his eyeballs literally in all sorts of demonic oppression and and spiritual warfare and stuff. So, he's and and I get why. I mean, look where he's come from. And was...
Speaker 3:It was a great interview on the show... On my show on YouTube, V. L. A. Marzulli.
Speaker 3:It's right there. You can go check it out. But wait till we're done here. And, you know, Corey is warning that this whole... It's a managed agenda, and I'm using the words of the late...
Speaker 3:My... One of my mentors, the late Chuck Missler. It's a managed agenda. They are rolling this out. So the bottom line is this, that we can no longer, the American people, the American church can no longer hide their heads in the sand and pretend that it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:It does exist and even skeptics like I have a really close friend who no matter he's he's an atheist and a Darwinist which is fine. Be what you... Believe what you wanna believe. But, you know, he he laughs at all of this. And and a lot of people laugh at it.
Speaker 3:You know, oh, well, you know, how do we know this is real? Excuse me. This is your war department. These were all classified documents. The information that you're looking at is real.
Speaker 3:Steven Spielberg says something very very telling. In the third trailer of his film, Disclosure Day and in that, he's he looked right at the camera. Very... It's an informal kind of sit down with with with Spielberg, and it's cutting back and forth between Spielberg in the interview and then clips from the film. And Spielberg looks right at the camera.
Speaker 3:He goes, know, I used to say, wouldn't it be great? Wouldn't it be wonderful if the American people found out that all of this is true? Then it cuts back to the film, cuts back to Spielberg, who says, it's all true. What do you do with that? And and the reason why he says that in my opinion, embedded in the film, disclosure day, are what I believe specific reenactments, perhaps frame by frame of the Roswell event, the Kecksburg event.
Speaker 3:That's another UFO crash for those of you who don't know. Eisenhower and the three grays signing the treaty to get the technology, but we'll give them access to the population so they can abduct people right out of the book of Enoch. Days of Noah, here we are. Days of Noah where the fallen angels came down. It was a quid pro quo.
Speaker 3:We gave them access to the population. What does that sound like? And they gave us, they gave us the toys, metallurgy, cosmetics. I mean, all this other stuff. So, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3:Days of Noah. It's exactly right out of the book. I mean, that's being that happened with Eisenhower. The three grays walk in, sign the treaty, and they go from there and then finally, Jackie Gleason and Richard Nixon, we actually show that and we show the clippings of it in in one of our films, UFO disclosure, right here. We show that.
Speaker 3:Well ahead of the Spielberg film. That was done years ago. Right? And we show that. We show the headlines.
Speaker 3:Gleason and Nixon did see the retrieved bodies from the Roswell crash, more than likely from Roswell. The question is, how much of this did Spielberg actually see? Did it... Was he taken into a private room, shown the film? The film was degraded.
Speaker 3:Let's just do reenactments of it. I don't know. I think they're reenactments, but did he see the real thing? More than likely, yes. That's conjecture.
Speaker 2:Right. Well, let's get a synopsis of the rungs of disclosure. Maybe go over some of the most important ones for this discussion that the audience should be aware of.
Speaker 3:Sure. The very first rung, which actually is the nexus of the book, which led to the writing of the book, was 2017. And before I get into that, a friend of mine, Paul Maguire, I interviewed him once again. It's in our film, Gilsner, Remind and I, 10 films. There's an interview that I did way back in 2016 with Paul Maguire.
Speaker 3:And it's, you know, he's, I'm asking him the questions, when do you think we'll have disclosure? And McGuire goes, well, it's 2016. If not by the end of this year, definitely by the end of twenty seventeen. What's interesting about this? At the end of twenty seventeen in December, Tucker Carlson on a Friday night...
Speaker 3:It's always on a Friday night. Tucker Carlson on a Friday night has this man come on, and he introduces commander David Fravor by saying this. UFOs used to be the stuff of tinfoil hats. Right? There's mine.
Speaker 3:Might wear it proudly.
Speaker 2:That one.
Speaker 3:Thank you. I saw it. And, you know, it used to be the stuff of tinfoil hats, conspiracy theorist, but maybe we shouldn't think that way anymore. Commander David Fraver joins us tonight. Former F eighteen pilot who had a, a encounter with a tic tac shaped UFO.
Speaker 3:And commander David Fraver's there. He's like a deer in the head. This is probably his first big interview, but he does really well. I mean, he does really good. And it goes back and forth from the conversation.
Speaker 3:And the punch line is this, what do you think this was? Because commander David Fravor says, this thing shot away from me like a bullet out of a gun. 50 miles into seconds. You know, the G forces would crush a man. What's happening is is that there's a gravity wave according to Bob Lazar, which is bending space and time.
Speaker 3:So there is no gravity. How does that work? Element one fifteen. But I digress. So the last question from Tucker Carlson is this.
Speaker 3:What do you think this was? What do you think his tic tac shaped object was? This UFO was. Commander David Fravor, stand up guy, former f eighteen pilot, the best of the best, looks right at the camera and says, whatever this was was not from this earth. I fell out of my chair.
Speaker 3:That's the nexus for the book. Mhmm. That's that started this whole thing. And then a couple of weeks later on Tucker Carlson again, we're introduced to Lou Elizondo. Luis Elizondo was the head of ATIP, Advanced Aeronautical Aeronautical Threat Identification Program.
Speaker 3:That's the anagram for it. And so, you know, Tucker says, you know, what's going on? Lou Lou Elizondo says, we have metal from the, you know, this this we have metal from the these crashed UFOs and we're testing them and if they have isotopic ratios that are not found on this Earth, now what? And that's the second rung of a ladder of disclosure. The third rung is Christopher Mellon coming on Tucker Carlson again.
Speaker 3:And I'll tell you why I believe it's on Tucker. That's when he was on Fox. And Christopher Mellon says that we've tested the metal and it has isotopic ratios not found on this earth. So we're going up this ladder of disclosure. The Pentagon says we have this is the fourth rung.
Speaker 3:I've got some of this memorized. The fourth rung is, yeah, we've we have metal and crash craft from UFOs. That's the Pentagon. I mean, why are we saying we have crashed vehicles in our possession? So we're, we're climbing the analogy is we're climbing a ladder that goes up this, the, the rungs and each, each rung.
Speaker 3:And, and of course, the top rung is the, full blown, full blown revealing of a so called extraterrestrial presence. So you say to yourself, Tucker Carlson? Well, at the time Tucker was on Fox, Fox is is watched and revered by many Christians. There's been a great falling away from Fox News. People no longer, many people do no longer watch it.
Speaker 3:In fact, I read something. Get this. This will blow you away. There were some recent stats that came out where all the news media combined. Cable, TV, all news media combined.
Speaker 3:Right? Or all all... Not even news. All media. Television, Netflix, you know, everything.
Speaker 3:Right? It's about 9%. Guess what YouTube is? 18%. Oh.
Speaker 3:YouTube is to... People go to YouTube more than they do any of the major networks. I mean, the whole thing is shifting. You know, we have we have... We're we're nearing 300,000 subscribers on YouTube.
Speaker 3:300,000. Now, you know, we're we're careful what we say because we still don't have free speech in the country. We have to watch what we say. Certain things you can't say. Otherwise, you get a strike or deplatform.
Speaker 3:So we're very careful what we say, what we state. So we go out of our way because we have a voice. And and, you know, we're... Even though we're being suppressed, and I know we're being suppressed, I've heard this from too many people that are inside, specifically one one particular gentleman who's inside and basically said, yeah, you're being suppressed. And I get that, but that's fine.
Speaker 3:You know? But but but we're still getting the message out. But we're on we're on Fox News, the greatest... The audience is mostly Christian. At least it was when Tucker Carlson was there, especially when Bill O'Reilly was there.
Speaker 3:Right? So Tucker kinda, you know, he comes in there, and it's great, and I used to watch him every night. Why Tucker Carlson? Because it's a test case. Let's see what those pesky Christians will do.
Speaker 3:Now this is conjecture on my part. Mhmm. Flatline. Nobody pushes back. Nobody stands up.
Speaker 3:The church doesn't say anything. Everybody's asleep. Everybody's asleep. And then one of the other, the next rung on that ladder is NASA is hiring priests. Well, why is NASA hiring priests?
Speaker 3:To prepare people for an alien invasion? Why? Why not... What... How about some evangelicals in there?
Speaker 3:How about someone like me in there who may have a different perspective which they need to hear but they don't do that. So, what does a Christian church do? Nothing. Ostrich time. Head in the sand.
Speaker 3:We're only about Jesus but meantime, Jesus warns us, men think for fear for what is coming upon the earth because the powers of heaven will be shaken. Do not be deceived, right? Do not be deceived. Satan comes with all sign lying and signs and lying wonders That the spirit especially states in the latter days stumbled apart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits of a doctrine of demons. So if we're just Jesus only, then we need to start talking and look at these warnings that are there because they're there in the biblical prophetic narrative.
Speaker 3:And and in my opinion, they are directly applicable to the times in which we find ourselves living in.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people might have a difficult time connecting the extraterrestrial phenomena to something spiritual because of the physical attributes that you were discussing earlier, the craft, the implants, biologics that you were even mentioning. Yep.
Speaker 3:Yep. Yep.
Speaker 2:Let's make that connection between this very physical, real technology to something spiritual, possibly even demonic?
Speaker 3:Okay. So first of all, I always call it Luciferian because the... It's a Luciferian hierarchy. Demons are at the bottom of the heap. Demons are of a disembodied spirits of a Nephilim.
Speaker 3:The Nephilim are the progeny of fallen angels and human women. End of story. You can tap dance around that to to the cows come home, read our book, Countermove, How the Nephilim Return After the Flood. Our resident theologian, Manto Gonzales, nails it. Absolutely nails it.
Speaker 3:That this is there is physicality to the craft and to the body. So, when Abraham is visited by the three men, his physicality, they sit down and eat with them. Two of them are angels. The other one is the pre incarnate Christ and that's that's what Abraham is tapped out. Through your seed, there's that word seed again.
Speaker 3:Genesis three fifteen, the seed of a dragon will be at war and enmity with the seed of the woman. It's physical. So, these angels go in and they're angels. They go into Sodom and Gomorrah and the men want to have sex with them. What's going on with that?
Speaker 3:But they're fit, there's physicality to it, absolutely. So, even though they're angelic entities, you see, the problem with the church is, some of these, some of the well meaning people have this very truncated view of a supernatural where there's no physicality. They're all wisps. When Jesus rises from the dead, he pops through the wall. How does he do that?
Speaker 3:Right? And then he says, I'm not a spirit. Touch me. Touch me. I'm not a spirit.
Speaker 3:I'm here. And then he goes, what do you guys got to eat? He sits down and has a meal with him. So this is... And I just love it.
Speaker 3:It's such a guy thing.
Speaker 4:Hey, guys. I'm like, are you hungry?
Speaker 3:You know, I've been in the tomb for three days. It's like, I I need some food. So it's it's really cool that all that happens. There's physicality to it. So when we get the Garden Of Eden, we have the cherubim guarding the guarding the the gate, the East Gate to Eden, and and in front of them is a flaming sword which turns every which way.
Speaker 3:What is a flaming sword that turns every which way? The cherubim aren't holding it. So what is it? What's a flaming sword? We would call it a lightsaber.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Flaming sword lightsaber. Right?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:That's what we're looking at. That's technology. What about the angels that go in in in in the book of Ezekiel? And they have slaughter weapons. What's a slaughter weapon?
Speaker 3:What is the Ark of the Covenant? What is the breastplate of the high priest, which which which, you know, lights up stones and stuff. The room and the third. How does that work? What is the new Jerusalem and who is building that?
Speaker 3:I mean, I could go on, but I think you get the point. There's physicality versus technology in the supernatural world. It's different than we have, but there's technology. There's no doubt there's technology. The physicality of it is all there.
Speaker 3:The grays, in my opinion, and I got this from abductees that I have talked to, are meat suits. They could it could be both. It could be it could be both and not either or. They could be meat suits but they also could be like robotics. Like some sort of like android type deal.
Speaker 3:We don't know. Now the abductees that I've talked to, Emile, Al Matthews, Karen Wilkinson, all state that they are meat suits, that these... That they're... They see them in drawers. That's Whitley Strieber.
Speaker 3:They open up a drawer, they're the Grays. They see them hanging on hooks. They were the grays. They're they're stacked up like chairs. They were the grays.
Speaker 3:Other people see them, and they're very much, automaton like. They're very robotic. So it's not both in. It's... You know?
Speaker 3:And, again, I'm I'm saying this sort of tongue in cheek. When was the last time anybody sat down with Beelzebub and asked them 15 questions on the on the phenomenon? There's a physicality to it. Absolutely. The craft is real.
Speaker 3:The grays are real. When you're abducted, you are taken. And space, time, matter, and energy is manipulated. So, with all due respect to our, there's an element out there. I'm not gonna mention any names but they insist that there's no physicality to it.
Speaker 3:They'll insist that there was no crash at Roswell. How many people do we have to interview? How many people do I have to interview and break the story saying that they handled the wreckage? How many people? I mean, we went out to the debris field.
Speaker 3:Let me see if I have that. I think it might be here. Let me see. I hope I do. I think it's right here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here it is. So we went out to the debris field. So those who say there's no physicality to it, did you go out to the debris field? Did you do any due diligence? Did you do any research?
Speaker 3:Or do you just sit in your armchair and go, oh, there's no physicality to it. We took a film crew out. And even though we found a piece of metal and we've tested the piece of metal, we're still disparaged by this particular group. Why? Because they don't believe in the physicality to it, which is incredibly insulting.
Speaker 3:Are you calling me a liar? Are you saying that we made the story up? Are you insinuating that we're lying or that we made the story up to get clicks? Are you kidding me? I take great umbrage in that.
Speaker 3:Great umbrage in that, which is why I'm not mentioning any names, but they know who they are. And they they have written hit pieces on me and disparaged my name. And those... Some of those hit pieces are still on the net. So, you know, do I pray for them?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Pray for those who persecute you. So I bless them in Jesus' name, and I do. And I'm not just saying that lightly. But we went out to the debris field.
Speaker 3:Gil Zimmerman, myself, Jim Peterson. That's our little three man film crew. We had two cameras going and I'm there with Chuck Sikalski and Frank Kimbler. Chuck is all things counter mutilations. I encourage you to go to his website, ufonut.com.
Speaker 3:Ufonut.com because we're all nuts in this together. And Frank Kimbler, those were our guys. They had metal detectors.
Speaker 2:Now this is the Roswell debris field you're
Speaker 3:referring to? Roswell. And let me tell you where this thing is. You drive north out of Roswell for about an hour. You're out in middle of nowhere.
Speaker 3:Cattle country. Then you make a left turn down this country road, two lane country road. There might be a house or a ranch every few miles. That's it. Cows on both sides.
Speaker 3:Nothing. You're on that for about forty five minutes. Then, you make a left turn on a dirt, gravel, cattle road. Free range cattle everywhere. Nothing around for miles and you're on that for about a half an hour.
Speaker 3:Then, you open up a cattle gate and now you're four wheeling up this, you know, thing and you get to the debris field and we have, we flew drones. It's incredible. It's absolutely out in the middle of nowhere. If you didn't know where it was, you'd never find it. You'd never find it.
Speaker 3:That's why Frank Kimmel and Chuck were our guys. So, we get there and we're praying and all of a sudden, Frank Kimmel goes, hey, guys. I think I got a hit. Now, Frank knew where the where the, debris field had been seeded with metal spikes. This is a metal spike that came out of a debris field.
Speaker 3:We found them, but with the metal detector. Why? Because you pound the metal stake down and guess what? You You know, you... You're getting false positives.
Speaker 3:You're getting Okay. Dig down, you get a metal stake. So the powers that be went out there and put metal stakes on the
Speaker 2:ground. Interesting.
Speaker 3:And I have one sitting on my desk. I'm not making this stuff up. So we're out there in the debris field, and we get a hit. We go over. This is all on film.
Speaker 3:According to our friend, Chuck Zekowski, we are the only film company ever to actually show a piece of metal being dug up out of the ground. And you can see the ground. It's it's virgin. We don't... We...
Speaker 3:You know, we've... I've never been there. And, you know, you... You're gonna hide this little piece of metal in the middle of a debris field and then go back and find it. There are no markers.
Speaker 3:There's nothing. So Frank's going like this with a metal detector, And that's a picture of Frank with the metal detector. So he has a little spade. He goes down, he's got a pile of dirt. He's sifting the dirt.
Speaker 3:He finds the metal. This is what it looks like.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:That's in the palm of my hand. Yeah. And what's interesting about this, the metal is folded in on itself, which is really, really strange. The metal is folded in. So again, due diligence science.
Speaker 3:We're just not making this stuff up. How do we know what it is? Well, we don't know what it is, which is why we took it to a laboratory and we looked at it under a scanning electron microscope. And it's an aluminum alloy. But what it is, and I'll use this as a prop, there's a little machine that the metallurgist brought in, and we took the piece of metal and dropped it in the machine.
Speaker 3:And she goes, oh, that's an aluminum alloy. Oh, wait, flip. And then it flipped again. And then it flipped again. And then it flipped again.
Speaker 3:And she says, that's really strange. For some reason, it's like, it's like an unknown aluminum alloy. When Chuck Zekowski and Frank Kimber went to two independent labs, not the same lab and tested their metal from the same day, from the debris field. The tech said the same thing. It's an unknown aluminum alloy.
Speaker 3:That's what we have to go on. So this is hard science. I'm not making this up. There's a physicality to it. And I mean, what's incredible about this is when you look at it under a scanning electron microscope, it's folded in on itself.
Speaker 3:So now you're down 400 times and you can see that it's folded in. It's amazing to see it under a scanning electron microscope. So I asked the metallurgist. I go, let me ask you something. What would cause metal to look like this?
Speaker 3:She said, get this. No prompting. She goes, some kind of like explosion, high energy, high heat, something like that. So, oh, really? An explosion, And she goes, yeah, where where did you get this metal from?
Speaker 3:I said, I got it from the Roswell Debris Field. Her face goes like this. You know, just like, she can't even believe it. So, you know, we went out there. We're we're we're the only film company.
Speaker 3:Again, according to Chuck Czuchowski, ufonut.com. You know this way, I always give people plugs. You know, it's like you gotta you gotta share the, you know, share the share the happiness. And Chuck's a great guy. So, you know, we're the only film company that has actually taken a piece of the metal out of the debris field and and tested it on film.
Speaker 3:Took it out. There it is. It's on film when we tested it. So for those who say it's it's a weather balloon, watch our film exoneration on the whole UFO phenomena because we interviewed Jesse Marshall junior. Jesse Marshall junior's wife, his daughter, his...
Speaker 3:One of his best friends, and he was a patsy. Jesse Marshall senior was a patsy. Wow. And then you got Walter G. Hawk, which by the way, is in the seventh tranche of the release that was just released recently.
Speaker 3:It's in the seventh tranche. This whole affidavit by Walter G. Hawk. And in our film on Roswell, we reference Walter G. Because it's incredible because he was there.
Speaker 3:He wrote like a deathbed, an affidavit to be shown only when, you know, only after the time of his death. And here's our film on Roswell. Here's Jesse Marcel senior. It was not a weather balloon. To think that Jesse Marcel senior would mistake a weather balloon, right, for a crashed UFO is patently absurd.
Speaker 3:But repeat the lie often enough, and that's what people believe. This guy is the intelligence officer of the five zero ninth bombing group. So who are the five zero ninth bombing group? The premier bombing group in all of... Well, at that time, it was the army, What later became the air force.
Speaker 3:Okay? Mhmm. So he's he's like the premier guy. The five zero ninth was the bombing group that dropped the two bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. This ain't Omar Fudd, folks.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's not Omar Fudd. He's a high... Highly trained, highly intelligent man. To think that he would wake up his wife and son and show them pieces of a weather balloon is patently absurd.
Speaker 3:It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace that they have this cover story and he, his name was maligned and disparaged through for decades but that's all changed. In our in our film on Roswell, we show Jesse Marcel senior back in the debris field. And he looks right at the camera and says, they wanted me to speak in front of the microphones at that press conference, but that's not what I did. So he's very straight ahead.
Speaker 3:So general Ramey said it was a weather balloon. And then he looks right at the camera and says, but we both knew differently. Mhmm. So who's both? Him and general Ramey.
Speaker 3:Why? In in Walter g Hawk's affidavit, he stated that the day of the press conference or before the day of the press conference, they passed around at a table the medal that Jesse Marcel senior had collected. Marcel's there. Jemma Ramey's there. Walter G.
Speaker 3:Hot's there, and other people are there. And I've got it, other witnesses. The bodies were there, the metal was there, and we were in our film on Roswell, we actually, and it's, where is it? It's right here in the, in the debris field. I don't show it.
Speaker 3:There's not a picture of it. That that's me with Frank Kimbler right there, but in the film, in the film, and you can watch it for 99¢ folks, you go streaming.amarzulli.net. Do your homework. Streaming.lamarzulli.net. 99¢.
Speaker 3:Hello. We got into Hanger 84, and we filmed at Hanger 84. And Hangar 84 is where Walter G. Hawt was taken, and that's where the affidavit opened up after his death stating he saw the bodies on the retarp. He saw the wreckage.
Speaker 3:We were there. We filmed inside. I'm like a kid in a candy store because I've seen the inside of that on documentaries, you know, when I was a teenager, right into my twenties. And here I am at 73, 72, however old we were. I was in my seventies at that point.
Speaker 3:And I'm 75 now. I'd be 76 in December. But I'm like this. I walk in and Gil's got the camera rolling. I'm like this.
Speaker 3:I just I can't even believe it. I can't believe Pinch. Pinch. Am I really here? Am I really in this place?
Speaker 3:So, you know, that... That's one of the main main deals that that we talk about, you know, in the book. We also talk about counter mutilations.
Speaker 2:I was just about to ask you about this.
Speaker 3:There you go. And once again, Tucker Carlson. So Tucker's got these two guys who are butchers who said states on the record, cattle are being taken to being, mutilated. Chuck Tzuchowski was our guide and he's the tent pole for the whole cat of mutilation film. Chuck is incredible.
Speaker 3:He's been out in the field. I I would say he's the go to guy. Even more than Linda Motenal. Linda's great. She kind of did this award winning documentary, which was fantastic.
Speaker 3:Strange Harvest. And I remember watching that in the nineties when it came out. But Chuck is, you know, hands on in the field. I'm not sure what he's doing now. He actually lent lent us film which we used in our very first Watchers series.
Speaker 3:And thank you, Chuck once again, ufonot.com. So Chuck is the tempo to the whole county mutilation phenomenon. And what people need to understand is that the blood from the cow is completely drained. There is no blood. There's no blood on the ground, which means that the cow was abducted and probably on the ship is when the cow is...
Speaker 3:All the blood is taken from him, from the cow. The flesh will be stripped from the jaw. The eye might be missing. The ear could be could be could be missing. The sex organs could be cored out with surgical precision.
Speaker 3:No footprints around the cow. No no carnivore. No scavenger will get near it. That's absolutely honor.
Speaker 2:Radiation as well surrounding the area. Is that right?
Speaker 3:Radiation spikes. Yes. Exactly. We had a case in West Texas. A friend of mine, Mike Hamilton, shared it with me.
Speaker 3:There was a lamb that was mutilated. We had pictures of all this. And when they went back, the whole body just disintegrated. Nothing was left. Whole body disintegrated.
Speaker 3:How's how's that possible? And with this particular mutilation, the insects wouldn't even get near it. It just it just disintegrated into nothing. And we're not sure how that happened. So we believe...
Speaker 3:I believe. And then after the cow is mutilated, they place it back in the farmer's field. Yeah. Isn't that wonderful? You know?
Speaker 3:Isn't that just great? It scares the bejeebies out of everybody.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know, local law enforcement comes. They have... You know, they think, well, maybe it's a satanic cult. No. There's no satanic cults out here in our city.
Speaker 3:That ain't it. So what is it? What are we looking at here? Seriously, don't? And then the the newspaper reporter comes out, and they do a story on this.
Speaker 3:So fear is the calling card of darkness. Fear is the calling card of the enemy. And you... The newspaper guy has pictures of it. And what does it create in the community?
Speaker 3:Fear. Fear.
Speaker 2:And you're be mutilations are simply to elicit fear, or are there deeper levels to it?
Speaker 3:Way deeper. Way... And we... I believe we broke the story on this, Jill Zimmerman and I. I believe we broke the story.
Speaker 3:This is conjecture on our part. I believe that, first of all, the blood of a cow when treated can be used in a human transfusion. So you can't hook up a human being to a cow. Now I've got documentation on that that made it into the film. When you go on Google, I'll do I'll do it right now.
Speaker 3:It'll be kind of fun to do. If I could... I'll just Google it. I'll I'll tell you what it tell you what it says here. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Can cow's blood be used in a human transfusion? Let's see what it says. Let's see what AI says. No, whole cow blood or red blood cells cannot be directly transfused into human because it causes severe life threatening immune reactions. Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3:But when treated, it can be. So what's amazing is limited, limited approval, all this other stuff. So I get that. But when I originally Googled it years ago, it said yes, it said exactly the opposite that it had been approved. So what are we looking at here?
Speaker 3:What are we looking at? This is conjecture on our part. When a woman is impregnated by them. Okay, she's taken, she's abducted, she finds herself on board the craft. All of it's erased.
Speaker 3:So when she comes back, she doesn't remember being on the craft. So she finds herself pregnant. In the third month of pregnancy, she's reabducted. She awakens in the morning. No memory of being on the craft.
Speaker 3:She awakens, she knows something is really wrong. She goes to the OBGYN, no fetal tissue, no blood, no fetal tissue, nothing. It's all gone. How's that happening? So they take they take the fetus from the woman in the third month of pregnancy.
Speaker 3:I wrote about this thirty years ago, almost thirty years ago, in the very first book of the Nephilim Trilogy. It's right in there. Woman is taken, classic abduction. The baby is taken from her. That baby, that hybrid fetus, has to live someplace in order to come into fullness.
Speaker 3:Right? Guess what? Cow's blood can be used in transfusions. We believe that they, the so called extraterrestrials, are creating artificial wounds. How do we know this?
Speaker 3:Abductees see the jars with different stages of hybrid beings floating in them. So the blood from a cow is being used to create an artificial womb. Now that's conjecture. And we broke the story. And by the way, if you, if you want to watch the calamutilation film, I think it's number five.
Speaker 3:It is the darkest film I've ever worked on. Watch it in the daytime and trade up before and afterwards. And I really mean that. You can watch it for, drum roll, please, 99¢. There you go.
Speaker 2:I wanna get deeper into the hybrid phenomenon. I know we've discussed this here before. Do you think what is happening is they are creating hybrid beings that are going to be able to survive here on the planet, and we would never even know that they're here. But there's most likely multiple reasons behind it that we wouldn't even be aware of.
Speaker 3:Satan's out number two to one. He's building an army. And that's what I got that from my late friend and mentor, Doctor. Chuck Messler. Satan's on number two to one.
Speaker 3:He's building an army. Hybrids are walking amongst us. That's the title of Doctor. David Jacobs' book. You know, they're here.
Speaker 3:Al Matthews, who's once again, he's in our very first film. And then on on the abduction, we have... That's number four on abductions, where we have two men and two women. All of them have been taken. The women have had their babies taken from them.
Speaker 3:The men have had their sperm taken from them. And Al Matthews comes on the record in this film. And and that's number four on abductions. And it's Al was a professional mover and he's moving this woman and she's coming in from Kuwait. She gets a big shipping container and he meets her.
Speaker 3:Her name is Diane and she is not an interesting Diana. Diana of Ephesus. I'm just, you know, whatever. So it's, she's got these really dark glasses on that wrap around her eyes, really dark glasses. And pretty gal, well dressed, and Al doesn't think anything of it.
Speaker 3:And when they're riding up on the elevator together, a freight elevator, just the two of them, she leans over and whispers, they're listening, Al. And Al goes, who's listening? You know the grace. I know that you were taken and I was taken, and we were supposed to meet on the ship. And Al gives this woman his phone number, and she calls him every single night trying to get together with him.
Speaker 3:Finally, he caves, and he goes up and meets her. And they are, she's with... Her name is Diane and she's with this friend and they're drinking wine out of these huge goblets. I'll use this as a prop. I digress, Alien Marzulli.
Speaker 3:A deer fly lands on the edge of the wine glass and Al goes, I'll get it for you. She goes, No, I haven't. I'll get it. And she reaches over and she doesn't grab the fly. The fly sticks to her finger.
Speaker 3:Yeah. She brings it up to her mouth and she goes like that from about six inches away. So how's that even possible? She takes off the glasses. She goes over and sits on Al's lap.
Speaker 3:So she's face to face. And I stop and I go, Al, Al, you have a girlfriend at this point. Is this normal behavior for you? And this is UFO brain fog.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He... And he's never processed it. And he goes, no. No. He...
Speaker 3:The light bulb goes off. Yeah. Why did I allow this? Because you have UFO brain fog. Because you're being manipulated by this entity, who, by the way, is a hybrid, a modern day nephilim, days of no walking amongst us.
Speaker 3:Thank you, doctor David Jacobs. Now you
Speaker 2:mentioned UFO brain fog. I've been speaking with others that have specific theories about orbs in particular that they may cause a hypnotic trigger that changes your perception and puts you into an altered state so that it is easier for you to perceive these things.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's what they do. And people who have been around these things have have all sorts of drastic health problems in in many cases, in many cases. So, he pushes her away. When she goes to kiss him, he pushes her away.
Speaker 3:So she's like going to kiss him, pushes her away as he pushes her away, her eyes shape shift, her eyes shape shift and go yellow. And she lets out the most beautiful laugh you've ever heard. He, he runs out of that place and goes to a mutual friend, Gordie Tong. He's not a Christian at the time. And at this point he, calls me on the phone and we talk to him about Jesus.
Speaker 3:And he, two weeks later, he accepts the Lord and the abduction stop. But like Karen Wilkinson and like Emile, they know when they're close. They can still, that, that channel is open. It was open and it... It's there.
Speaker 3:It's blocked. They can't be abducted, but it's but it's there. So Al knows when they're there. Karen Wilkinson, that was my fourth... My foresighting of a UFL.
Speaker 3:So we're vacationing with Dave and Karen and, and another couple. And, at, in Florida on the Panhandle at the Varr Beach. And it's, it's about 09:00 at night and we're right on the sand. We, we all chipped in and rented this house right on the sand. So we have our own private beach.
Speaker 3:It's really cool. So it's just, we're on the sand. There's the beach in front of us. There's the ocean really special. And do you hear that?
Speaker 3:No. Okay. Good. That's a truck starting outside.
Speaker 2:No. I don't hear it.
Speaker 3:Okay. I got the tree guys here
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Today and, doing a lot of tree work here on the property. So, anyway... Because I'll be 76 in December and I can't do that no more. I don't
Speaker 2:want great for 76.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Appreciate it. Praise the Lord. So that's all in. Let's give L.
Speaker 3:A. A little film of you, if you So where were we? So we're out on the deck with Karen and I can tell she's she's bothered. And I go, you okay? And she goes, no, they're they're near here.
Speaker 3:Like that. She goes, they're close. Okay. So a couple of minutes go by and she goes there. She points right in front of us.
Speaker 3:This is what I see. I see a dull silver disc and it's, and it goes like this, like 50 miles in two seconds, just streaks across the sky. But we saw it plain as day, And that's the thing, abductees know. They know when they're around. Karen's a former abductee.
Speaker 3:She was impregnated by them three times and she's had lots of health problems. And there's other abductees I have talked to, lots of health problems. So see, this is where... Let's circle back to this group of people that are insisting that there's no physicality to them. Maybe they think they really need to rethink their position because it does a great disservice, first of all, to the body of Christ.
Speaker 3:Second of all, to the people in the body of Messiah that have been taken in abducted, people like Karen Wilkinson. Well, you're delusional. Well, you're a liar. Well, you're just making this up. No, that's not the case at all.
Speaker 3:They're not lying. They're not delusional. They have been taken. It's Genesis three fifteen. There's a physicality to it and we need to protect these people and and understand that when we say that there's no physicality to it or that it's all demonic delusion or that they just presented themselves like this to you, you were doing a great disservice to these people.
Speaker 3:And we're obfuscating we're obfuscating the reality of the phenomena. And that's why I'm so earnest about it. It's time to rethink the positions. You know, the government is telling you that we have crass craft and and retrieved bodies. You know, affidavits from Walter G.
Speaker 3:Hawk saw the bodies, saw the craft. So, you know, you either have to say that everybody's lying. Right? Mhmm. Or you need to change your position.
Speaker 3:And it's the latter for me. You need to change your position. And we love you. You know, even though even though you don't like what I write and and discourage me every chance you get, that's okay. We're still praying for you.
Speaker 3:I can't do any more than that, But I will not surrender my position because my position from thirty years ago is the correct position. Not because I'm so smart, but maybe because the guy upstairs was leading me all all all along. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 2:What are your thoughts on the other side of the phenomena? People's, quote, unquote, positive contact experiences where they're healed or dramatically changes their lives. They come into contact with beautiful light beings or what they perceive as, quote, unquote, Palladians, something along those lines. What do you think this is? Is this a deception as well?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. So if I'm if I'm a fallen angel, if I'm a demonic entity, okay, let's just go fallen angel. First of all, there's a word that I got from my late my partner battle buddy, Isdar. What that means is the ability to shape shift. So in the Spielberg film, he actually shows that.
Speaker 3:So let me just ask. I'm gonna throw it back to you. So in the Spielberg trailer, the third trailer in particular because he finally tips his hand a little bit. So this little girl, about five or six years old, alone in her bedroom, little cardinal. She's got this mobile above her bed of cardinals.
Speaker 3:But then a real cardinal comes in Mhmm. And a stag, huge stag with big antlers comes in and the cardinal lands on the antlers. And there's a little friendly raccoon and a little friendly fox. Yeah. And she trusts them, and she goes walking out with them in the snow and air in the distance is the gingerbread house.
Speaker 3:But when I saw that in the first trailer, I said, that's not a gingerbread house. That's a UFO. I was right. Not because I'm so smart, but because I've been studying this phenomenon for decades. Metaschitzmanasai, the ability to shape shift.
Speaker 3:So they shape shift it in in a way that the little girl will trust and somehow that gets a pass, that's called deception.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's shape shifting or altering our perception of it?
Speaker 3:Oh, it's both. Okay. They can do both. Yeah. They can they can have you look...
Speaker 3:They can shape shift and appear... Look. The goddess Mora in Portugal, this is in one of our films, on on the whole UFO thing, actually. It's it's in here. It's in our it's in our Fatima films.
Speaker 3:Two films on Fatima where we talk about this. So, and let me just show you this real quick. So this is our, my two films on Fatima right there. So in the second film, strange phenomena. So what does that look like right there?
Speaker 3:What does that look like right below the letter h?
Speaker 2:Ah, there's a little orb in the sky.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So look at the people. This is 1917. Mhmm. October 13.
Speaker 3:Look at the sea of umbrellas.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right? Now look directly above the operation site. There it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I see it.
Speaker 3:That's a UFO. And we, and we know, we know from the people that were there in the field, I looked up and saw a dull silver disc. That's what you're looking at. You're looking at a disc that's presenting itself this way to the camera. Let me see where is it?
Speaker 3:You're looking at a disc that's presenting itself this way. That's what you're looking at. And we interviewed Jose Machado, who's a professor of semiotics who had access. That's the original photograph taken by Joshua Bonnoli on 1917, 10/13/1917 on the Moors Of Fatima. And it lay in the archives for almost one hundred years till Jose Machado had access to it.
Speaker 3:And he goes, we got problems here. And he let us publish that. We broke the story on it. It's in our film. So the phenomenon is very complex.
Speaker 3:There's a physicality to it. They are creating hybrid beings, and they present themselves as Nordics. And the Nordic might be actually, according to my informal cohost, Dev, who was a Christian, get this, who was taken by them multiple times. Now, they never did anything with her that we're aware of. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:She was always thrown back. So they... She'd find herself in room where she was supposed to create, complete these tasks. She wouldn't do it. She wouldn't comply.
Speaker 3:Let's throw her back down. And this happened over and over and over again. Finally, the abduction stopped. But she was a Christian when they were doing this. There's some other interesting things which I won't get into with Deb, but she's our informal cohost and she's usually appears on my show like once a week.
Speaker 3:So what's happening with this, in her opinion, what we would call the the Nordics might be what fallen angels actually look like. Okay. Okay? And then, you've got messing with the genome how do we know this? Because the book of Enoch tells us that these fallen angels, that's who they were, messed with the animal kingdom, creating hybrids, creating chimeras, and the chimeras might be minotaurs, scintars, fawns, what we read about in Greek mythos, but the late Chuck Muscher once again, Chuck was way ahead of his time.
Speaker 3:Would say that, you know, maybe they weren't. Maybe it's not mythos. Maybe they were there. And that's what I think. So the reptilians, the the the insectoids that we see, the insectoids that we wanna see, those might be, manipulating
Speaker 2:Hybridized beings, genetically manipulated. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Exactly. So, again, you know, no one sat down with Beelzebub with 10 questions, and I don't wanna be the first person that volunteers for that. No. Thank you. But as a ufologist, you know, I...
Speaker 3:I've been studying this for decades, and it's malevolent. And this is what I say to people at... When I used to... When they used to invite me at UFO conferences, they don't do that anymore. They don't wanna hear about Jesus, and that's fine.
Speaker 3:I could care less, folks. You know, I'm I'm all over the Internet, 16 books. We have 10 films of the whole UFO phenomenon. You can watch each film for 99¢. There it is again.
Speaker 3:So when I was at UFO conferences, I would go, how many of you think it's okay to abduct a five or six year old boy and implant them with an implant? Anybody? Never a hand goes up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Never. Not one. And I would go, you've already proven my point. I'm done. I can just walk off and not even do my presentation.
Speaker 3:You know it's not right and yet you still give it a pass. You still say it's okay. It ain't okay. It's not okay. Why not...
Speaker 3:And this is this is what I've been saying all along. Why not give us the cure to cancer?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Why the bat and mouse game? Why not just show up and and say, hey, we're here to, you know, give people free energy. Christopher Mellon in in age of disclosure says, and we have free energy. Ho ho ho. That's how he spends it.
Speaker 3:An age of disclosure which can't which came out last year right around Thanksgiving which led to our rebuttal where we had 10 speakers. We had Carrie Steerman, Michael Gonzales, Karen Wilkinson, Vicky Joy Emerson, Tim Alberino Mhmm. Larry Raglan, Alan Didio, Al Mathews, and, two others which I can't think of right now. Please forgive me. Oh, myself.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Was one of the 10. So we had all these people that gave forty five minute presentations. You can still watch that at lamarzulli.com for $19.99. You can watch all the whole deal.
Speaker 3:We had 2,500 people sign up for that webinar. 2,500 people. I'm And not doing another webinar until the Lord tells me to do one. And right now I'm not. But there's...
Speaker 3:We have a warning. I will say this, that there's a warning that's been given to stockpile food and water. Mhmm. All of Europe is saying it. We've heard rumblings in this country.
Speaker 3:Glenn Beck was stating it. So why is that? Why is The UK telling their people at least three days of water? Why Germany? Ten.
Speaker 3:Ten days. Why why are different countries... Why... What what do they know? Just today, Moscow was bombed.
Speaker 3:That's the capital. K? Moscow was bound by a bunch of drones from Ukraine. Moscow, Russia has stated on the record, they will use a nuclear device if pushed into a corner. In my book, rungs of disclosure, the the last rung on the ladder of disclosure, when they show up, there's gonna be a nuclear event.
Speaker 3:That's the trigger. That's what they're waiting for. Because a nuclear event that happens anywhere on the planet creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced collectively. And that's when the so called space brothers show up and they will say this. We created all life on this planet.
Speaker 3:We started the world civilizations, world's religions. We manipulated early man genetically. We created the world's religions, world civilizations. Now it's a critical juncture. We are back to usher mankind of a golden age.
Speaker 3:I'm not making this up. I'm not making... I've been saying this for decades. Right. This is the coming great deception.
Speaker 3:Think about this. Why would Paul admonish us in first Timothy chapter four? The spirit especially states that in the latter days, some will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrine of demons. Why would he say that? And so if you're a Calvinist, well, that's not me.
Speaker 3:Once saved, always saved. There's no way I can possibly ever be taken out. You know, now unto him who was able to keep me from falling and to present you before his presence was singing. That's the scripture they'll use and I want to cling to that too. That's comforting.
Speaker 3:I take a great amount of and I believe that. Well, and and so they'll say, well, the people who fall away weren't really Christians anyway and they'll cite chapter and verse that we find, well, these people that went out from us really weren't from us. Anyway, that that's how they'll couch it. But the Armenian side of the aisle will say, well, not so fast citizen. As a human being, even as a Christian human being, I have free will.
Speaker 3:He's not taking my free will away. I'll give you an example. I have free will. Okay? So I have free will, and I'm gonna use something really graphic right now to show you what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Okay? So as a as a as a free will person, I could choose to drink a milkshake every single day. Was that good for me? Is that good for me? No.
Speaker 3:No. It's not. It's loaded with sugar. Run to the nearest accent, but I have free will. I can choose that milkshake, baby.
Speaker 3:And and why not too? I want a milkshake in the morning and a milkshake before I go to bed. I could do that because I have free will. But my free will says, no. I'm not buying that.
Speaker 3:Too much sugar. No Bueno. That's where I think Alzheimer's comes from. Because we eat more sugar now than anybody in all of history. So I'm...
Speaker 3:I don't take any sugar at all. I run from sugar. Like like, you know... Anyway, but that's my point. So as as a guy...
Speaker 3:As an Armenian or as a Calaminian with free will, I could do two milkshakes a day if I wanted to because I have free will. So, if if I see an event and it begins to change and shift my perspective, now what? Could I walk away from a Christian faith and believe the lie? Because it is a lie. When they show up, they'll say, we genetically manipulated early man.
Speaker 3:We started the world civilizations and religions, critical juncture in time. After a nuclear event, we're back. This causes the great deception. Here's the problem. There's a saying I came up with years ago.
Speaker 3:We go up, they come down. We go up, they they show up. That might be the scenario that happens. We don't know. And you don't know either, all you critics out there.
Speaker 3:You don't know. So you can you can, you know, yap yap yap to the cows come home, but you don't know. It's speculation on my part. And it could be that we're here for, they show up and we're still here, right? It could be the reverse.
Speaker 3:They come down. We're here for a period of time and then we go up. There's a a little saying in our track that we deliver to people. What is the truth? And it says this, there is a potential for many.
Speaker 3:This is channeled information from so called Pleiadians. Alright? So channel information. We're forbidden to do this. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon.
Speaker 3:The people who leave the planet during the time of earth changes do not fit here any longer, and they are stopping the harmony of the earth. The other side of the aisle, the new agers have already explained the way the rapture of the church. We get your head around that. That's that information is from a luciferian source. We don't know whether it's a form of an angel, a demon, which is the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
Speaker 3:We don't know. We don't know where the source of that is coming from, but it's there. It's from a luciferian hierarchy. So when you say demonic, that's the lowest rung in a Luciferian hierarchy. It's a Luciferian principality, Arcones, Cosmic Crawlers, wickedness in high places, well oiled, well organized structure.
Speaker 3:Kingdom of heaven, same thing. You know, cherubim, archangels, regular angels. I mean, what are we looking at here? It's very complex, extremely complex. So, the rapture of a church, my point is this, the rapture of a church has already been explained away.
Speaker 3:They took em. So, what what if let's let's look at both sides because we don't know. So, let's say, we go up and then they come down. So, when they come down, they'll say, we took these people because they're stopping the harmony of the earth. These are the people that that created this this war that happened with the nuclear event.
Speaker 3:They're not here. Or we could be here and they come down. No rapture yet. And then we're raptured. And they'll...
Speaker 3:But they'll say the same thing. So nobody really knows. You know, it's so funny. Some some people are just so dogmatic and intellectual concrete. They're not flexible.
Speaker 3:I'm very flexible because it could be either or. I lean towards we go up and then they come down. But then I could say I also lean towards they come down and we go up. So for me, back burner. Back burner.
Speaker 3:I don't know. It's conjecture, and I'm willing to say that. I'm willing to examine both sides and say that either either scenario is very plausible. So we're down to three minutes, and then I gotta go.
Speaker 2:That's perfectly fine. Last question. Disclosure, the pace that it's unfolding right now, is that because there is an imminent event within our lifetime that they have to get ahead of and control perception?
Speaker 3:Amen. Absolutely. They are rolling this thing out, baby, and they're not letting up. And what bothers me is the church, for the most part, is completely asleep. And I mean completely asleep at the wheel.
Speaker 3:They have no idea what's about to hit them. None. None. I'm here, folks. If you're a pastor, we'll give you the book for free.
Speaker 3:If you wanna contribute something, fine. We'll give you the book for free. We will give you access to all 10 films for free. Private links to the to the all 10 films and a free book. You need to arm yourself, and you need to arm your congregation.
Speaker 3:I will come to your church. I will come to your conference because the message gets lost in a conference. Because with five or 10 of our speakers, it just gets lost. So when I come I come in a Thursday night, I acclimate to the time change, unless, of course, you're California, then I can come in on a Friday night. And I I speak for about two to three hours on a Friday night.
Speaker 3:That's the primer. Two sessions on Saturday morning, two sessions Saturday afternoon followed by a long q and a, answer your question, speak Sunday morning. I'm I'm willing. Have yak will come. Have presentations will come.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having me on. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, L. A. I'll have your links easily accessible for everyone. We'll definitely do this again. Until next time.
Speaker 2:Have an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all then.
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