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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. I think that if there's one word that would describe what I want to happen in this world, it's justice. We've gotten so used to living in a society where justice is a joke. Look at what's happening to Donald Trump in the courts.
Seth Holehouse:Look what happened after the twenty twenty election. Look how many of these people just keep getting let off with a slap on the wrist. We want justice. And if you look at what's happened these past few years with COVID, is which is just the tip of the iceberg of this global cartel. What I think I want more than anything is some sort of justice on that scale.
Seth Holehouse:And so joining us today to talk specifically about this is attorney Todd Callender, who was before a prosecutor, and who has been intentionally building a case by case by case full of evidence to prosecute the people behind the evil that's happening in this world. And so he really believes that's really exciting that there's going to be global Nuremberg Two Point o esque trials and tribunals to bring these people to justice. And not just the frontman, not just the Anthony Fauci's or the Klaus Schwab's, but the real ringleaders behind what's happening in this world. So this should be, hopefully, an inspiring conversation when it's it's grounded in practical understanding of the law, you know, coming from a very experienced attorney. So, folks, please enjoy this interview with my good friend, attorney Todd Callender.
Seth Holehouse:Todd, as usual, welcome to the show. It's it's always it's just so fun. It's so I really enjoy chatting with you. I enjoy discussions. I enjoy what you bring to the table, and I always leave smiling.
Seth Holehouse:And I hope that the audience has the same experience. So it it just it's good to have you on.
Todd Callender:Yeah. Yeah. I love it, man. It's really fun. And you and I are mentioning I'm gonna hold you to this.
Todd Callender:I made you a promise. You guys come and visit. We're gonna have a beach barbecue and film it so everybody can join in our fireside chat.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. We'll do a live q and a from the beach of Bahama or Caribbean or whatever island you you find yourself on all the time. So that's perfect. Now so I there's it's funny because I I've been on this mental wavelength of just envisioning the future, actually. And I've done some some great interviews that I've had a chance to talk about this with some people and, you know, without even planning it.
Seth Holehouse:You know, you know, we're chatting before we started recording, and you were talking about your life living in The Caribbean and how it's it's life that you envision that you then built for yourself. And you're saying, look. If if you want it, you create the vision of it, and you and you create it. Right? And so I wanna bring that into the discussion as well as looking at the positive elements and the positive things happening in the world that reinforce what I think is a very realistic but positive vision of the future.
Seth Holehouse:And so
Todd Callender:Yes, sir.
Seth Holehouse:Let's let's first start with that, which is more of just the the details. What are some indicators that you're seeing in this battle of good versus evil, the battle of the elites versus We the People? What are some indicators that you're seeing that we're winning and they're losing?
Todd Callender:There are many. We we are in the battle for souls. And I also just before I get to that, because there's a laundry list, I want to endorse what you just said. We have it in our power. We are so extraordinarily powerful.
Todd Callender:Our souls, our spirits that we can manifest things that we envision. I think you've got that exactly right. And I think that that is the scary part to those who seek to destroy us is that if we get clarity and we unite together and we all envision a new beautiful future, instead of one of division and hatred and war that will happen. It's the connected consciousness of humanity that they fear, particularly as it relates to Christianity or frankly, any particular belief system. It's extraordinarily powerful.
Todd Callender:So I'm all in for what it is you said. Let's go down that road because I'm seeing this being the year humanity retakes our planet. And I really sincerely mean that it's taken a long time for people to wake up to the reality. It's worse than uncomfortable. It's egregious and unthinkable that where we're at is where we are.
Todd Callender:Nonetheless, humanity persists, we survive. So a few things I was jotting down notes that would demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about. The first one that caught my mind was Tucker Carlson. He's probably got the biggest draw of anybody in the world right now in terms of his audiences. And he's talking openly about how Trump had the election stolen from him without any equivocation whatsoever And without being banned, barred, censored, otherwise, that message is getting out.
Todd Callender:Why? Because it's the truth, right? Anybody that looks at this in a clear way of light will recognize it for what it is. It's absurd to think otherwise, whether you support the guy or not is immaterial. Election was a fraud.
Todd Callender:So now the people are calling it that you see governments reacting in different ways. The Canadian government, way of example, is now saying they're going to imprison you for life. It's a new bill they proposed. Named it the hate speech, online harms bill. Sorry.
Todd Callender:It's the online harms bill. And if the government doesn't like your hate speech, undefined what that is, they'll block you away forever. What does that show? They lost control of the narrative. Similarly, France, a couple of weeks ago actually passed their law, that if you talk negatively and publicly about mRNA in particular, they said they named it mRNA, you're talking €45,000 actually in a fine and three years imprisonment.
Todd Callender:Then you look at the Michigan vote. I about fell out of my chair. The Michigan primary in Dearborn, Michigan, they had the results of the election of their primary candidates for the Democratic party and CNN, as they do, was fudging the numbers the best they could, but the results were simple. Three to one people in Dearborn, Michigan, that's principally minorities where Democrats do well. Three to one wanted anybody other than Biden.
Todd Callender:They called it uncommitted, three to one over Biden and some poor other guy. I don't know who he was, but he had a handful of votes. And of course, CNN allocated the uncommitted votes to 3,000 and whatever to that guy, again, to try and create voter fraud. That's how desperate they are. And Gavin Newsom, he's facing another recall.
Todd Callender:So again, fraud, Newsom somehow defeats the last recall, gets it tossed out. So the people are saying, I don't care if you toss that, we're going to do it again. We're going do it over and over. And now the best of all, I think Seth is the realization of the mayor of New York City say no more, we can't take any more immigrants. He wants to roll back the sanctuary city policy.
Todd Callender:Really? Are you that slow on the uptake that you're just now figuring out stuff? But but this is the truth. This is where we find ourselves. So humanity has figured it out, Seth.
Todd Callender:We're on the right track.
Seth Holehouse:So I wanna ask you more of a glass half empty, half full question. So as an example, you mentioned two different things. You mentioned Canada with this. If you have hates, you know you know, hate speech in prison for life, you have France banning discussion of mRNA, 45,000, you know, however many thousands of euros you're fine. The question I have, let's just take Canada as the example.
Seth Holehouse:There's a lot of people that would look at that and say, look how much power they have. Canada has now put in a law that they're gonna put you in prison for life for doing for Brett, you know, saying spreading hate speech. So the glass half empty of that is they're really powerful, and they're clamping down, and the freedoms are being taken away. But what you said was the half full perspective, which is Yeah. This shows how much they're losing control.
Seth Holehouse:And Oh, yeah. I find it's a lot easier to to to fall into that negative pattern of here's another example of our rights being taken away. We're living in communism two point o in the West.
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:How is it that, like, what gives you the the perspective that you frame that as this indicator that they're losing control, and it's a good sign for us? Where's that come from?
Todd Callender:Because it's hilarious. It's absurd. It's absolutely absurd because it's subjective and undefined. And that's not how the law works. We define things so that we can particularly describe the behavior that we seek to outlaw.
Todd Callender:Let's put it in the context of law enforcement. So a cop pulls you over and detains you. They must have articulable, reasonable suspicion that you've committed a crime, not just reasonable suspicion. It's got to be articulable. They've got to be able to point to factors that support the thought process that a crime has been committed.
Todd Callender:And that's just to detain you, not to arrest you. And so this is the normal process, way the criminal or penal code works in humanity, matter what country you're in. So imagine the cops knocking on the door, you know, I'm sorry, did you write that you hate, you know, Gumby the green guy? Really? You're going to put somebody, have they thought through how expensive it is to actually house somebody in prison for the rest of their life?
Todd Callender:It's absurd, it's impossible and you could, based on the subjectivity of that standard, could imprison the entire country. It's absurd. It's an impossibility and it shows the desperation how badly they want to censor people and control the content and you know what they can't. Why? Guys like you, God bless you.
Todd Callender:People have abandoned traditional media. They understand the gig. They know what Mockingbird is, in terms of psychological warfare and people are opting out. I don't want any of your poison, and and it's fantastic. I just love it.
Seth Holehouse:It is. It is. And so okay. Now now touching on what I started this discussion with was this vision. Right?
Seth Holehouse:This is something I think is really, really important. And and I go through cycles in my own life of losing sight of my vision. The vision for who I want to be, how I want to live, what kind of father I wanna be, what kind of husband I wanna be, my my spiritual aspect of my life, you know, what kind of house I want, etcetera. And but there's also times when I've I've reconnected with that. And those are the times when I make the most progress.
Seth Holehouse:I'm I'm more disciplined, and I'm working towards that. And I've I've realized and and learned through my life that we can do that. You can manifest something. Yeah. Obviously, it's it's not magic or something woo woo.
Seth Holehouse:It's just that, look, if you focus on it enough and you work towards it, then you can make things happen. So if you're living a certain way and you're not happy with it, we have the power to change the course of our lives. Right?
Todd Callender:We do.
Seth Holehouse:And that's what's got you to where you are. So but I wanna talk about that as let's just imagine that We The People is this person. Right? It's this person named Bill. It represents the the good people around the world that just wanna live their lives and be free.
Seth Holehouse:Now we're in a world where most of almost anything that we interact with is a controlled, you know, a reality that's being fed to us. We don't have access to real technology. We don't have access to free energy. We don't have access to the real medical treatments that can cure almost probably anything. We don't have access to the real history.
Seth Holehouse:We don't have access to real understanding of our world of the universe. I mean, so much of this. And we're born into this cage that we haven't seen outside of it. So it's hard to even imagine that. But if what you're saying is correct, and you're saying that, you know, this is the year that we reclaim this Earth, I'd say part of that process is actually tearing down the walls of that cage.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's opening up technologies, opening up, redistributing money perhaps. Yes. It's been stolen from us, whatever it looks like. And so I want to hear from your perspective because you're a smart guy, and you extrapolate information very, very well.
Todd Callender:Thank you.
Seth Holehouse:Let's let's fast forward a little bit. What does life look like after this battle is over? After we can look at this time period and say, the cabal has died. It's it's now they've lost their grip, their fiat currencies run out, their plans have failed. What does the world then look like that we're rebuilding?
Seth Holehouse:Because I think that's that's a vision for the future that's really important for us to hold in our minds because it can motivate us. It gives us a reason for living, a reason for fighting. Yeah. What's that vision look like for you?
Todd Callender:Yeah. Well, I do think about this a lot. And as it relates to the good parts that I want to see come to fruition, it really is a function of people's pride in their culture, their families and their nations. Competition is a human trait. It happens, it always happens as does our tribal instincts.
Todd Callender:We like to congregate around people that are like us. It doesn't mean that we exclude others, but it's a world of trade. Actually president Trump and president Putin circa 2019, if memory serves, met in Sochi. And that's what they agreed. They said, look, we need a strong China.
Todd Callender:We need a strong Russia. We need a strong America to compete commercially on the world scale. Everybody has the right and the ability to compete at what they're good at. There's something called economies of scale whereby smaller communities that have a specialty in winemaking, for example, have the ability to trade with others who don't make wine. Maybe they're not in an area that don't have grapes and things of that nature, but the the trade flows because each of them have different things the other one needs.
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Todd Callender:And and that's how humanity has always worked. It's only when we are distracted, when we are ruled, that we find ourselves being intimidated or fooled into aggression and into fighting, because I don't think that actually comes naturally to humanity. So you can take a good example, the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave rise to Vietnam. We now know it's been declassified that North Vietnam never fired on a US ship. The ship was out there blowing off stuff to make it look like there was an incident.
Todd Callender:There wasn't. It was a complete fiction and a predicate to a war that killed millions of people. Why? Because the North Vietnamese weren't trying to kill anybody in The United States Of America. They had their own culture, their own tribe, they were doing their own thing.
Todd Callender:If they want to be commies, who cares? Be commies. If that's what you want to do, that's up to you and the people that want to live there. And frankly, that's how our nation really started too. You look at Utah, right?
Todd Callender:Had bigamy laws. Why? Because the Mormon faith had that as part of their foundations. There was more women than men or something along those lines that gave rise to it. I had Mormon friends, but I never went to the study, but I know that that was what was behind a lot of law in Utah.
Todd Callender:Nevada next door, just the opposite. Gambling and all kinds of other sinful things were made legal. They're more of a libertarian state. The point is people chose their lifestyle and they found the place to live out their lifestyle, their dream, the manifestation of where they wanted to go. And God made us with free will, Seth.
Todd Callender:That's the one gift that he gave us is the ability to choose for ourselves, our future holds, who we want to make a family with. You and your lovely wife are building your family because that's what you two wanted to do. And that's what the future looks like. Having said all of that, I am not delusional in this. We absolutely must have a reckoning.
Todd Callender:That reckoning means holding people accountable. And I've volunteered to a lot of people that are notable in different circles. Volunteered to spend effectively the remainder of my life prosecuting these people for what it is they did. And that's going to take twenty years at least to do. So this is just because we take our planet back doesn't mean the hard work is over.
Todd Callender:Just means we survived it.
Seth Holehouse:And that reckoning, want to hone in on that. Because that's one of the things I think that is the most difficult about this process of learning just how evil these people really are. Especially if you're just the average person, which is a good good natured person. The average person doesn't wanna harm children or or depopulate people or poison people in in their air, in their water, in their food. We just wanna live our lives.
Seth Holehouse:And so when you talk about the reckoning, that's important because once you see the evil that's there, you wanna have justice. You wanna see these people
Todd Callender:There must be.
Seth Holehouse:Prosecuted, you know. And I think what's most important is that we need to leave a lesson that can never be forgotten. Where we've got to right now, it can never happen again. I I don't care if it's 50 generations from now. We cannot allow us to happen again.
Seth Holehouse:And I think that's a big part of this is that there has to be this record. There has to be this something that's carved into the stone of every capital building of every city and every state, every whatever it is around the world.
Todd Callender:Every nation.
Seth Holehouse:So everybody remembers what happened when the evil took control of the world, when good people allowed that and did nothing. And so that's an important part of the vision for the future. It's not just, hey, maybe we'll get this Tesla free energy that's been locked away, and what we know, we want
Todd Callender:to pay
Seth Holehouse:for our bills anymore for energy, or we'll have floating cars or, you know, water powered cars or whatever it is. Right? That's one aspect of it. But I think in in many ways that the more inspiring part of this vision is that reckoning. And so you certainly understand the legal process.
Seth Holehouse:You understand, you know, what it means to prosecute to to prove someone is being guilty. What do you see that reckoning process look like? I mean, what Yeah. And and and, I mean, do you foresee, like, something like forget which country it was. One of the communist countries where they had they televised the firing squad of the Sure.
Seth Holehouse:The the the leader, the communist leader in his
Todd Callender:Oh, Cuba did.
Seth Holehouse:Yep. There you go. Cuba did. So what do you see planned? What's his reckoning look like?
Seth Holehouse:And how does it become something that will be memorialized in the pages of history for all time?
Todd Callender:Well, let's confront the truth of the matter first. And that is twofold. Number one, that in 1994, the world leaders got together in Cairo, Egypt and decided 7,000,000,000 people needed to go. That's malice of forethought. That's planning.
Todd Callender:That is how we determine homicide to be the most egregious of all homicides and the one for which we take a life. That's the first starting point to this. The other part I want people to understand is that the legal realm globally was transformed over fifty years, at least in the case of The United States, others may be less, to cut off all possibility and forms of redress. So for instance, when the US Department of Defense was tasked with Operation Warp Speed, which was in fact the basis of this worldwide democide, It was our military that planned it and executed it. Let's be frank about that because it was those shots engaged by our DoD built by Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, AstraZeneca.
Todd Callender:And those shots were flown around the world on military aircraft. And they were paid for with our tax dollars from a military budget. The biggest killing machine in the world was trying to do the biggest killing job ever tasked to it. It's killing 7,000,000,000 people. And so they made the laws unstoppable.
Todd Callender:They made public health militarized in every country. And I know that because I'm an international lawyer. I live outside The United States. I know. So the reckoning must be global for if we do not hold people accountable for what they did, they'll do it again.
Todd Callender:Right? We're in that scenario right now, where they've been caught, the genie is out of the bottle. And now if they don't finish the job, they know they're going to get hung. Then this is what you're seeing is the desperation of Canada. Hey, if you say something we don't like, you're going to go to jail forever.
Todd Callender:This is why you see mRNA is a topic you can't talk about in France, right? That's exactly why. And what you see inside of the DOD and governments generally are deer caught in headlights, because now they've come to understand that when we filed our lawsuit and said, Hey, don't do this. We filed it to stop them from doing it. They did it anyway.
Todd Callender:That's notice. So in the law that notice, counts for malintent. We put them on notice, Hey, this stuff's dangerous. You got polyethylene glycol, that's poison. You can't, that's antifreeze.
Todd Callender:You can't put that in people. And you know what they did? They gave us the bird. There you go. And they did it anyway.
Todd Callender:That's malice of forethought. That's, the worst kind, most egregious form of murder. And, and so what I'm trying to say to you is that those people must be the highest priority. They must go. There are, and it must be globally in every country where that happened.
Todd Callender:It's identifiable as to who these people were. They had knowledge in advance. They did it anyway, and dusted. The other ones become more difficult where you've got doctors in a hospital, somebody comes in and they test positive for COVID because the tests were all rigged. And then they hang a bag of my dazzle lamp.
Todd Callender:That's what we used to kill prisoners with. Why did the doctors do that? Because that's what the protocol from Fauci said to do. Oh, and then give them remdesivir to destroy their kidneys in the process and then put them on a ventilator where something like a quarter of people ever get off of them. But the doctors have a special knowledge, right?
Todd Callender:They know my dasalam is a lethal drug. They know it that it tranquilizes the lungs, and they did it anyway. Those are the hard cases. Is that negligent homicide? And so this is where in the law we study something called mens rea and mens rea is the single most important part of criminal law because you have to get inside of the accused.
Todd Callender:What was their intent? And we look for evidence to understand how much intent did they have? Did they not know? Could they have known? Did they plan it?
Todd Callender:All of those things come into a factor, but that analysis must be done. And this is not the first time Seth, this happened in World War II. Right? Where did the Nuremberg Codex come from? It came from Hitler experimenting on people without their knowledge.
Todd Callender:And even though that law was applicable along with Convention on Human Rights, International Convention on Civil Political Rights, three different UN agreements that said universally experimenting on people so egregious, the whole world agreed you can't do that. Those rights were suspended. Who suspended those rights? Who did that? Who made the declaration of a public health emergency of international concern?
Todd Callender:Who made the public health declarations in The United States? And I'll add to this before I shut up. Our government is hiding that the secretary of health and human services who made that declaration. We FOIA for their oath of office and the government refuses to give it to us. So what does that show?
Todd Callender:It shows intent. All of them must be tried. And this is gonna take some time to do that.
Seth Holehouse:And so a lot of what you're doing, it's interesting is that you're slowly building a case against these people.
Todd Callender:Yes. From day one. Well, two things. We are poisoning the well to stop it. And then yes, we've been building a case from day one.
Seth Holehouse:And has that then that's an interesting perspective. So has that all I mean, obviously, your your your strategy as an attorney and everything is is far beyond where my my mind would naturally go towards. But has that been part of your intention since day one?
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:Obviously, you're trying to stop this, but that you're taking certain actions now knowing that at some point in the in the future, this evidence and their reaction to your actions becomes admissible evidence in court that they knowingly can make.
Todd Callender:Precisely. It's exactly right. That's why I spent three years in the federal courts depositing as much evidence from expert witnesses as I could, including in the very first filing was a temporary restraining or observed it on the secretary of defense, secretary of health and human services and Janet Woodcock, the head of the FDA on purpose. We had expert testimony put into the federal record. They can't deny it didn't happen.
Todd Callender:And not only that, Seth, but we filed whistleblower reports all over and 400,000 service members, which is how we really stopped the DOD. They filed criminal complaints inside of the DOD. They filed inspector general complaints. They filed work article 138. We and even Nuremberg notices we made, I think it was seven different templates for the service members to use and 400,000 of them used them.
Todd Callender:So you can't deny that they were on notice and they did it anyway. Right? That's the worst kind of human. Those are the worst kinds of humans, period. We cannot tolerate them to be in our society, or we will never find the peace that we seek.
Seth Holehouse:So you must be really building up this anticipation and this drive to prosecute these people because that's what you do.
Todd Callender:That's right. Yes. And I came from that background. I started off under a special license in Colorado. In my last year of law school, I let you work for the district attorney's office and actually be a prosecutor.
Todd Callender:I did that. I really enjoyed it for a lot of reasons, but it's the satisfaction of justice served. And I would have, you know, by the way, sometimes as a prosecutor, you look at a case and you go, no, they didn't have the malintent required for this. You dismiss the case, but this is where we have to go back to. We've got to have people confronting and embracing the truth most importantly of everything in this.
Todd Callender:We've got to go back to a time, a means by which the truth is the single most important thing and and how we conduct ourselves.
Seth Holehouse:And that will set us free. And so with these so with this reckoning with this these trials, because this isn't just a an isolated event here in America. It's global. So
Todd Callender:Global.
Seth Holehouse:Do you imagine that there's some sort of global commission, some sort of, you know, Nuremberg Nuremberg
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:A two point o that and how does that work? Like, how does it is there
Todd Callender:is there a
Seth Holehouse:jury? Would it be televised globally? What do you think that would there be executions? Like, who would carry out the executions? And walk us through a little bit of that because this this is interesting because it gives my mind something to to hold on to.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, oh, yeah. Like, imagine the day when there's the public executions of these people. It's like, that's gonna be an important lesson for history. Folks, how do you feel? Me?
Seth Holehouse:I feel great. And one of the reasons I believe I feel better is because I take Balance of Nature's fruits and veggies in a capsule. They have an amazing story how this product was developed by doctor Douglas Howard. It's right there on their website. Balance of Nature receives over a thousand success stories every single month.
Seth Holehouse:They have hundreds of thousands of customers who've purchased billions of capsules of their fruits and veggies over the past twenty years. You should check it all out on their website. Their products are gluten free and non GMO, and they contain no added sugars or synthetics. I think if you're looking for something to make you feel better naturally, you should definitely give Balance of Nature a try. In fact, order today.
Seth Holehouse:Whether you order online or call them direct, you must use a promo code Seth, that's s e t h, to get this special offer of 35% off, plus $10 off any additional sets, plus free shipping and the money back guarantee. So call them at 802468751 and use discount code Seth, or order online at balanceofnature.com Use discount code Seth to get 35% off.
Todd Callender:I think it has to be. We used to have public hangings in the country where I live right out in front of the courthouse, and we didn't have a crime problem. Now I live in the top 10 most dangerous place on the planet because we don't execute prisoners. So that must happen. Your question is a really important one in so much that the law already exists.
Todd Callender:The penal code already exists. International criminal law was born of Nuremberg. That's where international criminal law came from. The law is already there. And so the answer to your question is that it must be done in an international format because let us assume that this was done in a vacuum.
Todd Callender:The United States Of America was the target and Americans sought redress. How would they do that? Just like you see in Ukraine, the breakaway Republic said, Hey, Russia, would you please come and help us? They didn't have the resources to protect themselves. They called in the big brother who stepped in and said, I'll protect you.
Todd Callender:So that was what was cut off in the process of changing the laws to eliminate accountability from other nations. So we have something called mutual legal assistance treaties, where countries agree that in the case of these crimes committed by a citizen of your country, then we will extradite them under the following terms so that they can be held accountable in your country. And here we are in this international scenario where the countries are going to hold each other accountable, but there extrajudicial bodies, the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice, who have special authority because there are times when the heads of sovereigns, most of our political people enjoy sovereign immunity. Why? Because they're supposed to be doing the best they can with what it is they have and the information they're provided.
Todd Callender:They don't want to be bogging down government guys for making decisions, but there are certain things that vitiate sovereign immunity. War crimes is one of them. Bioweapons is another one. Guess what? Nuremberg Codex says experimenting on people without their knowledge and consent is so egregious, it is universally prohibited.
Todd Callender:That is enough by itself to hold leaders of countries accountable. This is precisely what happened with, the guy, Hussein in charge of Iraq. Never before had international criminal law gone to the extent of holding a head of state personally responsible for the crimes that he committed and executed. Therefore, he was the first one. They didn't even bother with giving Qaddafi a trial.
Todd Callender:They just killed him. Why? Because he dared to bug the system and turn his economy into an equity model economy. But the point of which is international law already provides for this. There's a mechanism to do it right now.
Todd Callender:And we would have to change, I think the people that are sitting judgments, most of the time they do them by a group of judges. Because they've proven that they are not acceptable. They are not willing to do this job because we've already filed papers with them. When I say we not me personally, but I've helped others do it. They had the ability to stop this and they did not.
Todd Callender:So they gotta go to.
Seth Holehouse:It's just interesting as I'm just thinking about the future, and I'm I'm imagining what it will be like to watch these things. Because I believe this will happen. I really believe this will happen. It will.
Todd Callender:It must.
Seth Holehouse:And I think it's not just, say, COVID, for instance. I mean, looking at communist China. Right? The the the people in communist China that have been raping and pillaging their citizens that that need to be brought to justice. I mean, there's there's so much beyond just COVID.
Seth Holehouse:Then you get into all the the the gender stuff, the doctors that are going along with that and mutilating children. I mean, it's Yes. Like, there's I think there's never been this much evil on Earth, which means that we're gonna need some pretty heavy duty trials and a lot of time to get through this. But I can imagine this time in the future, which reminds me of when I was a child watching the Olympics, where it's like every night the Olympics is on, and everyone's hanging or at the OJ Simpson trial.
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Wherever everyone's kinda glued to the TV, what's happening in the OJ Simpson trial was they find the glove. Did this happen? I imagine that, except it's the Fauci trial. It's the Barack Obama trial.
Seth Holehouse:It's the Klaus Schwab trial. It's the, you know, the any number of people. Right? The George Sorr, whatever it is.
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:Imagine when that's happening. Because this is also important because, you know, Olympic athletes, as an example, they know the power of visualizing. You can sit there and visualize the high jump over and over and over again. Your body once you do enough, your body won't know the difference, and it and it changes us physiologically, and it's been a really good way for thinking the right thing. So it's almost like close your eyes and picture that where you're sitting around the the the the TV, and you're watching the trial, but it's a real trial.
Seth Holehouse:It's not this kangaroo court. It's not the trial of Donald Trump where they're, you know, making things up and everyone's bought off. It's a real trial where people are coming out and they're presenting evidence that you knowingly participated in a global genocide campaign. Right? You've been you have now been found guilty of x, y, and z, which is you know, you've now received 2,000, you know, lifelong prison sentences.
Seth Holehouse:Right? It's like whatever it looks like, I really believe that will happen. And it's really important because we have to reestablish justice in this world. Yes. It's so
Todd Callender:important. It's a do or die mission, Seth. Either that happens or we all perish. There is no in between. It's really that simple, because they are in a do or die mission.
Todd Callender:They've got to finish the job of destroying us or they shall be held accountable. There's no other way. And what you said is so important, you know, to see this with your own eyes, this thing happening is being forced to confront the truth. And it can be really uncomfortable, but the truth is what it is. And we have to confront that.
Todd Callender:And that's what these things do. They help us confront it. They help us understand it. They help us see where others have gone wrong. And if we're really smart, we'll take notice and not do those things.
Todd Callender:That's part of the rationale behind this. The other part, which I'm a huge believer in is why I want to resemble a lawyer, is being judged by your peers. It isn't me and you necessarily. It's not necessarily judges by themselves. It is the people around you that share that community that are in your tribe that judge you.
Todd Callender:That's the most important part to me is that process.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Well, that's also what is very difficult to corrupt, and and that which I think is really important. Like, I'm I'm sure that you've probably seen the movie 12 Angry Men, one of my favorite movies, you know. And and you can see that that's what comes out of that that jury.
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:You know, by the peers and how important it is. And so where do you think would be the global center of this? You know? So would would you refer to it as, like, a tribunal? What is it is that what we're entering into that that these are this is a war crime tribunal that's happening on a global scale?
Seth Holehouse:Is that how you describe this?
Todd Callender:Happening is the word. It's already started. People don't know it. And I Really? Necessarily would.
Todd Callender:Yes. Absolutely. So I wouldn't have known if it weren't for the, you know, it's a human rights group that does imprisonment causes. It'll come to me, but the point of which is, yeah, Russia started war crimes tribunals in Donbas already. It's actually a couple of years old now.
Todd Callender:Don't forget our country had a bunch of bio weapons laboratories that were doing experiments there to kill Slavic people. That is now well known. And so the point of which is Russia was also in charge of the UN Security Council. They were putting into evidence these war crimes, these international crimes we talked about rising from the Nuremberg Codex Amnesty International, that's who it was actually made a complaint. Hey, you got to stop these war crimes tribunals.
Todd Callender:UN stop it. Don't let it happen. So the Russians, as I understand it actually captured senior US people. I understand that to be a general as well. And I think a Canadian general as well that are involved in what appear to be war crimes.
Todd Callender:And they're being tried for that. Let us not forget that while we were having the Nuremberg commission in Nuremberg, Germany, we were trying German officers and doctors and news people too. They ate it in a bed and they also got tried. But while we were doing that in Nuremberg, don't forget the other half of Europe went to the Soviet empire and they had their war crimes tribunals in Kyiv of all places, go figure. And so between the two of these was born international criminal law and Russia has already started.
Todd Callender:The genie is out of the bottle. It's already taking place. So what we need to do is find out what's happening and rinse and repeat.
Seth Holehouse:So war crime tribunals are already happening.
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:That's yeah. In Donbas. That's significant. That's significant.
Todd Callender:Yes. It is. And it's been going on for a couple years now, by the way. So it's pretty amazing how the wag the dog Hollywood types in in Kyiv have been able to keep this all quiet. And I don't jest when I say that there are professional film crews from Hollywood that are in Ukraine all the time, how and why to affect our thinking to hide things to make sure censorship, why Canada doesn't want us talking about anything they don't want us to talk about.
Todd Callender:They can't let people understand it. They're even hiding the fact. I feel bad I've got Ukrainian friends. They aren't winning this war. They never have been.
Todd Callender:They've been losing their people 10 to one to the Russians getting demolished. An entire civilization is being wiped off the face of this planet. And our government saying, everything's going great. Let's send some more money. No, no, no, no.
Todd Callender:That's a money laundering operation. Our poor friends in Ukraine are getting slaughtered. And by the way, slaughtered in the case where, you know, Russia's observing the Minsk Accords, the agreements that were put in place long before the color revolution that Obama waged in Ukraine to change the government. My point in saying all of that is that we have to be very careful about the same pretext to war that we've heard about before. We've had the war on drugs.
Todd Callender:How many people died from that? We've had the war and how many rights were taken away. We had the war on terror. How many people died and how many rights were taken? Now, Seth, we have the war on viruses.
Todd Callender:And guess what? You and I are the viruses and when they seek to eradicate that. So I just want people to stick that in the back of their head, that we've got to be really careful about the pretext to war. And the same thing could happen in the case of these war crimes tribunals. I don't want people thinking it's us versus them, good guys over here and bad guys over there, because it's not that simple.
Todd Callender:There were bad guys in every government that made this happen. So take that to heart.
Seth Holehouse:Do you think that these tribunals would actually get high enough up the chain of command to fundamentally change the rulers of the world. Right? Basically, is it because I think Yes. You know, Fauci, you know, even Klaus Schwab, I think they're frontmen. They're people that
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:They're puppets. They stick them out there and make them say these things. Everyone hates them, and everyone's so focused of, like, I wanna see Fauci arrested. Well, it's Yeah. You know, they'll they'll bring in two more.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's the heads of the Hydra. Right? But do you think that this would actually go up the ladder far, you know, far enough so that we would actually be toppling some of these core core people that are orchestrating this global chaos?
Todd Callender:Well, yes, the answer is it must. When you mentioned Fauci's being a front man, the same applies to effectively most every head of state. They are selected to be put there. So if you go back and I put it into the criminal complaint, drafted back in 2020. Warren Buffett, Oprah Winfrey, Ted Turner, Bill Gates, et al, the billionaires club got together in New York and they called themselves the good club.
Todd Callender:And they decided that they were going to depopulate the planet. And they bragged about it. It's in the Wall Street Journal of Memory serves, but it wasn't like they hit it. So when you talk about, know, the heads of state, those guys are picked by the class of people I'm talking about. Gates of this world that control the World Health Organization.
Todd Callender:If you read through the international health regulations, it will lead you to him choosing who are these steering committees that control what happens. So the answer is yes, it will have to go that high. And I agree with you entirely. You can see the setup for Fauci right now. He's going to be used as a straw man, and they will cause him to be hanged and everybody feels good and could go home now.
Todd Callender:No, no, no, no, no. This has got to go all the way to those that had any involvement whatsoever at the highest levels, the highest levels, meaning the owners of governments, the owners of this world, those that create money out of thin air and lend it to governments, those people, if you can call them people.
Seth Holehouse:That's there's probably a lot of a debate around that one. So what they actually are. Hey, folks, I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that?
Seth Holehouse:Is it just a thing of, hey. Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at?
Seth Holehouse:So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive?
Seth Holehouse:No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
Seth Holehouse:So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
Seth Holehouse:Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now. We're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver. Because what it's doing is it's protecting you.
Seth Holehouse:This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value.
Seth Holehouse:So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900.
Seth Holehouse:Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. So we're gonna have to wrap up because I've got back to back interviews and with the newborn, my schedule's a little more tight. But before we go, I want to talk more about KloutHUB and just give you a couple of minutes just to give us an update on what you're doing on KloutHUB. Obviously, you know, you're not gonna be, you know, submitting people, you know, to the, you know, FOIA requests to the Canadian government, so people go to jail for their life or, talking about Trudeau and showing his blackface pictures on CloutHub.
Seth Holehouse:So tell us what's going on with CloutHub.
Todd Callender:Oh, that's really kind of you. Thank you. Yeah, you're absolutely right. So again, you know, I do think like a lawyer because I have one and it's one of the things that we'd figured out is that if the secret police come knocking in China on the door of somebody who wanted to do Bible study, we actually made the whole platform, the meetings platform as well, in such a way that it's completely anonymous. We don't collect data on people.
Todd Callender:We don't geo fence. We don't want to know you or we don't want to know anything other than we prohibit porn and we prohibit gambling on our platform. Other than that, we're not collecting that data. There's nothing to take from us. That's the way to do it.
Todd Callender:So it's anonymity plus privacy equals freedom. That's what we're about. And if you look at our privacy policy statement for CloudHub, it effectively says, it's the only one in the world I'm aware of, effectively says, we don't want to know. Don't tell us. All we need is your language preference because we make it available in all languages.
Todd Callender:We want to know a username we can call you by, and we want an email address we can communicate. Other than that, be free. It's about freedom. In the case of the meetings platform that we have called CloudHub Meets, we built it in such a way that is browser based. We could be doing this meeting right here and we don't keep a copy of it.
Todd Callender:If you want to keep a copy, that's up to you, but otherwise we don't have any of the data. It's transactional data. It's end to end encrypted and when you're done with the meeting, you simply hang it up and the meeting never happens. So when the secret police want to see your computer, hey, what were you doing? Oh, there you go.
Todd Callender:Thank you. The only thing it'll show is that you were on the internet. It won't show where you were on the internet or what you were doing. It just shows that you're on the internet. So they can't use you for body parts if you weren't caught going to Bible study.
Todd Callender:That's it. So thank you very much for that. Yeah, come to CloudHub Meets. And unlike Google, unlike Zoom, who keeps all of your data, we don't want yours. We just want you to be free.
Seth Holehouse:Well, beautiful, beautiful. And so I'll put the links in the description. I know that we've also got America profile in there. Think now all of our videos are going up there, which is great.
Todd Callender:Yes. And available in more than 60 languages, by the way, the closed captioning, you click on it. So we're trying to get you into other other cultures, other tribes.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. Perfect. Todd, I wish I had an hour with you. It's always enjoyable.
Todd Callender:Let's do that.
Seth Holehouse:I really appreciate all that you're doing. It's always fun talking with you. And I look for honestly, I want to see you on the TV as the prosecutor for the global tribunal war crime, you know, trials. I want to see Todd calendar there with your your your notepad and looking forward to that. Let's make that day Take tip
Todd Callender:on that offer. Yeah, I'll do that. I would like to do that. I think God built us for this day, this mission set. So thank you, by the way, you know, none of this would be possible if it weren't frankly for your courage, your inspiration to others, and sharing the information.
Todd Callender:This is what's changing the world. You're helping people see that vision. What does it look like in the future? And I think it was really important what you said today about that. Let's all do that together.
Todd Callender:And, again, thank you for your leadership. God bless you, Take
Seth Holehouse:care. You so much.