The Sleuth

Join Jamie, your favorite private investigator, in this solo episode of the Sleuth podcast, as she welcomes the New Year 2025. In this engaging episode, Jamie reflects on changes in the world of private investigations, shares personal insights about work-life balance, budgeting, and the significance of background checks, and hints at a compelling multi-episode investigation involving a friend's mysterious case. Along the way, Jamie also talks about the lighter side of life with anecdotes on New Year resolutions, quirky ChatGPT interactions, and the challenges of remote work. Tune in for an episode filled with intriguing stories, practical tips, and a sneak peek into the everyday life of a private detective!

00:00 Welcome to the Sleuth Podcast
00:57 Podcasting Expertise and Studio Plug
01:33 New Year Resolutions and Dry January
04:22 Financial Goals and Dave Ramsey
10:05 Work-Life Balance and Reality TV
16:16 Chat GPT and Personal Assistants
19:36 Private Investigations in 2025
24:34 The Entrepreneur's Dilemma: Work vs. Leisure
25:28 AI in the Workplace: Friend or Foe?
26:26 The Reality of Remote Work and Fraud
33:10 Background Checks: Protecting Your Business
35:09 Elder Abuse and Online Dating Scams
41:55 Uncovering the Truth: Crazy Cases and Investigations
45:09 A Personal Mission: The Case of Bertran and Ophelia
55:27 Conclusion: Stay Curious, Stay Safe



What is The Sleuth?

The Sleuths are real private investigators here to help you find the truth when you need to know. With sometimes shocking, heartwarming, and hilarious stories from the field, they keep it real. Interviews with experts bring you insights on how people leverage P.I.'s in their lives and businesses. When you need to know, call the sleuths — licensed by the North Carolina Department of Public Safety, Jamie hosts this entertaining and informative podcast to educate individuals and business owners.

Jamie: [00:00:00] [00:00:15] [00:00:30] Woo, woo woo. Happy New Year friends, and welcome to the Sleuth podcast. I am Jamie, your favorite private investigator, [00:00:45] and today it is just me. No co-host, no backup. Just me and you, Joe and the mics. Hello. How are you today?

Joe Woolworth: I am good. I was listening to the intro and I'm like, I'm the expert today. I don't know what I'm the expert on.

Jamie: You're the expert on podcast, podcasting. Podcasting. [00:01:00] Yes. I throw your plug in there for podcast, Carrie, if you you said you had 10 new

Joe Woolworth: shows in the last month or so. Yeah, that puts me up at around 60 shows I'm producing. Wow. Which is pretty exciting. Yeah. If you need a podcast, I have a little studio here in Kerry.

You should gimme a call podcast kerry.com. [00:01:15]

Jamie: It is a fantastic little studio. We have been here from. When you guys over there, you guys were like, show number four

Joe Woolworth: or something. I think

Jamie: I know we were right there with you guys and guys who do stuff and girls who do stuff. Isnt that what it is? You made it longer than us.

We kinda, we kinda [00:01:30] gave up on it. Never. I always wanted the podcast. So so we got a brand new year. Happy 2025. So I'm always, you know, changing things up, trying to find ways to share with you this crazy world of private investigations how this life affects me [00:01:45] on a personal level. I'm gonna share with you guys a little bit on that.

And as a business owner and how I want to help protect you from the crazy and provide ways that my company, Blackman Detective Services can help you handle the crazy in your life. [00:02:00] Do you have any crazy in your life, Joe? Occasionally. Occasionally I try to leave it all for the clients. I don't have time.

My energy can't take that stuff home with me. So how's your I try, I

Joe Woolworth: try to eliminate the crazy as soon as I see it best I can.

Jamie: Right. You're like [00:02:15] red flags. I'm paying attention. Pay attention. So how's your new year going? It's been good. Anything exciting? Yeah.

Joe Woolworth: I don't do what are those called?

Resolutions or any of that stuff? That's not me. I don't do it.

Jamie: Just change the lifestyle. Right. So dry [00:02:30] January. I tried for like a week to do dry January. It didn't quite work out. I had a drink last night. Yeah, so it's like an official thing though. It's, you know, we always just say dry January, but it really started in the UK and it's like a big [00:02:45] thing up there.

And so some of the other countries have jumped along, including us, the us but I'm sure just like many of the other resolutions, it doesn't last too long.

Joe Woolworth: It makes sense to do it in January. I remember like, I would say like five, six, maybe closer to [00:03:00] 10 years ago, I was drinking more regularly and I feel like once a year I would take a month off just to prove to myself that I wasn't an alcoholic.

You know? So I think that that's the premise behind dry January. I get it.

Jamie: Well, look, it is [00:03:15] important to make sure that some of our, , vices in life don't end up taking over life. Right? Right. On top of that, it's always good to detox and just get all that mess out your system. Especially after the holidays, people sometimes do a lot more, more lot of more drinking [00:03:30] just to deal with family.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah.

Jamie: And whatever else is happening. So I drink

Joe Woolworth: a lot less than I used to nowadays, and I sleep much better. I think it really screwed up my sleep.

Jamie: Really? Yeah. The, I feel like the cleaner my body is. Now [00:03:45] I sleep well. I always sleep well, but my dreams are wild, wild. I feel like I'm working so hard while I'm dreaming that I really am not resting.

That's kind of weird.

Joe Woolworth: Interesting. It's

Jamie: supposed to be like the other way I [00:04:00] thought, but I'm like, if I don't have anything to drink and I'm just going on to bed, I'm so peaceful. But like, I'm in my, I'm fighting off, you know, serial killers and all types of craziness is happening. So I'm just like, you know what?

I just need to have a happy [00:04:15] medium. So, I don't know, we'll see what happens. We'll see where my dreams bring me and my mama come visit me and my dreams. So that's what I'm hoping for. Okay. Budgeting for me. I am working on my finances personally, so I am looking for

Joe Woolworth: a man in [00:04:30] finance. That's that game that's going around really.

Is that, tell me. So I guess some lady, like did like one of those classic TikTok rants and it got turned into a music by the community, but it started out like, I'm looking for a man in finance and now it's like a whole song like looking for a [00:04:45] man in finance.

Jamie: I wish if I, if I could find a man in finance, then I wouldn't have to worry about budgeting so much. I have become a fan of Dave Ramsey and the, I like Dave Ramsey Ramsey podcast. Mm-hmm. I love it. Not [00:05:00] only because he is, he and his team are teaching us how to keep your dollars, save your dollars, not, you know, being debt at all. No credit cards, all of that stuff. But the stories of the [00:05:15] people who are on the show are.

Mind blowing.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah.

Jamie: Some people are trust fund babies, you know, get $17,000 a month and can't find any of their money. I'm $400,000 in debt.

Joe Woolworth: My parents only give me $17,000 a [00:05:30] month just yelling at the radio what's following

Jamie: up and know. I'm like, how is this possible? Or the one, you know, the single mom who's like barely bringing in 40,000.

Like her husband's left her and she's gotta take care of the kids and figure all this [00:05:45] stuff out. Still try to have a career. I mean, it's, it's a lot. So if you wanna hear some good money stories check out Dave Ramsey. I'm sure he doesn't need a plug, but Yeah, his daughter's on the show a lot too. I think she is.

And she's so funny. So, you know, they're always talking [00:06:00] about you know, like people can't find their money. Like, where is your money? You spent, you know, this, it should be your most important and your most expensive asset, right? So if you bought like a Louie bag, of course you know where your bag is, you're like, you know, it's in my closet on the right underneath the other [00:06:15] shoebox.

I know exactly where it's at. And they're like, where's the money that you made this year? And you're like, I have no idea. It's gone. I think McDonald's has it. It's, it's at McDonald's, it's at the bar. It is everywhere, but not in my pocket. So [00:06:30] I'm working on that. Do

Joe Woolworth: you think moving away from cash so much has made us.

Because I've seen the study is like, what's it like six times easier or something like that to spend money when it's not cash in your pocket. Absolutely. And I've always, I've always been a cash spending money guy. I lose [00:06:45] cash and I feel like every time I pay, people look at me like, what is wrong with this guy?

Like everybody behind. He's like, what?

Jamie: We have to wait for you to get changed. You're giving them

Joe Woolworth: paper. What? What's this weird IOU you're doing? Everybody else just [00:07:00] bleeps their phone and they're on their way, but Oh my

Jamie: goodness. Oh my

Joe Woolworth: goodness.

Jamie: That's how I feel. Well, no, so I'm not big with cash 'cause I tend to lose it.

So you get that bonus every once in a while where you

Joe Woolworth: put on a jacket jam and wore in a year and you're like, what,

Jamie: [00:07:15] 20?

Joe Woolworth: Look

Jamie: at it. I found it. No, I've already spent it or lost it. I just like fall outta my bag or something. The first time I went to Jamaica, dumb. Dumb American. Took a bunch of cash, took, took a bunch of cash, had it in my bag like a fool, [00:07:30] and they took it out my bag when we were switching buses to go to like, you know, whatever, the bus to take you to the resort.

Oh. So I cried, called my mom. She made it all better. It was fine. Lesson learned, but I'm not the one to have the cash. I do [00:07:45] better with having it in place where I can actually find it, but it's the overdraft that I have to, had to switch up because, you know, when you have money in the other account, it just pulls from the other account.

You don't have any problems. And then at the end of the day, you're still spending more than you need to. [00:08:00] So, and because my boy is in college, I'm the only one at home. So you don't quite have that issue yet?

Joe Woolworth: My daughter's at college. Oh, that's right. My still But you have one still. My youngest is still at home.

Yeah. Okay.

Jamie: But see y'all cook as a family.

Joe Woolworth: Ah,

Jamie: yeah.

Joe Woolworth: Sure [00:08:15]

Jamie: you should. That saves so much money when you're eating at home. My friend Leslie would say the beans and rice. That's it. That's all you need to survive. Now. That sounds like a pootie experience. That's a very [00:08:30] Dave Ramsey.

Joe Woolworth: Beans and rice. Beans and rice.

Jamie: Right. Well look, I that beans. Rice is expensive. Yeah. By the way, my jacket and rice is, I mean, you can't

Joe Woolworth: really go to eat for less than a hundred bucks nowadays. So I get that.

Jamie: Yeah. And don't have anything to drink. That's my problem. [00:08:45] I'm like, I wanna have a drink. I'm here. I'm chilling. You know? Next thing you know, your bill's like six, man.

When did drinks become 18 bucks? Ugh. Like since we're in Raleigh. It is a rally thing. It's a rally thing, and they feel like everybody's making North Hills money. So it's like,

Joe Woolworth: oh, it's the best, whatever. It's [00:09:00] like, no, it's your, well, bourbon. Who are you fooling just right.

Jamie: I'm, I'm that person that's like, okay, how much is this one?

How much is this one? I have like four different options that I'm willing to drink, but I need to know what they are before you sign me up. I also have a friend who is gonna be helping me with some [00:09:15] budgeting at work. Now work is a bit different because I don't really have to have my hands in the finances all the time.

We just work bringing the money, you know, pay the bills. But it's also good to know, like, you know, creating your goals for the company. And so I'll be [00:09:30] working with Ms. LaDonna Bonneville of Bonneville Business Solutions. Her business provides services that help small businesses improve their operations and profitability.

She's got over 25 years of experience in the business process and she is [00:09:45] gonna be improving costs and savings. So identifying in efficiencies and streamlining operations, help businesses reduce costs and help the business increase profitability. So I'm looking forward to working with her on that [00:10:00] and creating some goals for black men.

And you know, who knows where you'll see us. Okay. Work life balance. That's gonna be my last, and I'm not gonna call these a resolution because like you said, call 'em revolution. I call, I really call it [00:10:15] revolution all the time. I have to go in my mind and say, which one it is it again. So, you know, work life balance, making sure that we are not just sitting at these desks all day, typing and working, and that there's actually some time away that you are [00:10:30] working out or going outside or spending time with your kids, playing with the dog, playing with the cat, whatever your thing is.

Yeah.

Joe Woolworth: Where do you fall on that? Because I know some people get really extreme with it. Let me give you an example. Okay. I come from a pretty [00:10:45] hyper religious background and I remember many a sermons on the idea of like, well, if you're not spending as much time with God as you are watching tv. Or then you like TV more than God.

And I'm like, but I sleep like most of the day, it feels like, or I work most of the [00:11:00] day, so how am I supposed to? So I feel like some people get the wrong idea with balance. They think that means everything is equal. No, but I just don't think that that is the way that the world works.

Jamie: It is not the way the world works.

But

Joe Woolworth: like I work more than I hang out with my [00:11:15] teenage daughter, but I like her way more than work. You

Jamie: know what I mean? As you should. But you know, if you, I'm I'm assuming that you're doing a job that you love. Yeah, yeah. I like my job for sure. Right. So, so it kind of isn't [00:11:30] really like work, right? I mean, if, if your passion is your job, which is really what we're all striving for, then it shouldn't feel like work.

Yeah. I think what the important part is like, you know, if you are a believer [00:11:45] or whatever you're. Choice of religion is you have to, you know God's always taught me your first fruits. You know, when you get up in the morning, make sure you're like checking in with the Lord, making sure that you know you are thanking him for waking you today.

[00:12:00] And you know, however this day is gonna go, that he blesses you and protect you. Now of course you still have to spend more time than just a morning check-in, but it's always nice to start there. I feel like when you just do work, work, work all the time, sometimes you forget the little [00:12:15] things that just kind of keep you.

Stable.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah. So for me, for sure, what does work life balance look like for you? I think I have workaholic tendencies. I suck at this.

Jamie: I definitely have workaholic tendencies or then I just like fall off the face of the earth and I need like two or three days and then I can come back and [00:12:30] be a normal person again.

Joe Woolworth: I think we're really similar with that. Yeah. Like I go like four weeks hard at work and I'm like, don't speak to me. Look at me for two days. I need to, I need to watch tv.

Jamie: Oh my gosh. And I get a good binge in my new favorite shouts out to Nicole. She turned me on quarter ton [00:12:45] teen.

Joe Woolworth: Quarter ton teen.

Jamie: It is like a superhero

Joe Woolworth: movie

Jamie: of which, oh my gosh.

It is very interesting. It is my 600 pound life before they got to being grown folks. And they're all, you know. [00:13:00] Teenagers that are well over, you know, BMI is like at 98 or something ridiculous. But it's interesting because the parents are kind of brought into it and everybody got to be on the same page.

We have to make changes in the household because how can you be, [00:13:15] and obviously what ends up happening is you realize that the parents are the enablers. It's almost like intervention. They are the ones that keep feeding this food to the children. And then the children are 500 pounds. And now I've realized that [00:13:30] I've created a monster.

But usually it seems like the child either almost didn't make it into the world. You know, something happened during the birth process and they were either, you know, a preemie or one of 'em was like [00:13:45] a twin and she didn't know that she was pregnant with twins. And so you know, baby Tommy just became big baby Tommy.

So definitely some kind

Joe Woolworth: of. Predisposition or genetics are involved in a lot of the cases. Well,

Jamie: genetics and just, [00:14:00] you know, people latch on to things that, you know, they're afraid they may lose and they want to make them happy. You know, they want them to be okay because they feel like they went through this traumatic experience early, but at [00:14:15] really a traumatic experience for a baby.

They're not gonna remember all that. You still need to raise the baby in a healthy environment. And so Tommy was 6 56 when they put him on the scale. He was six feet tall. [00:14:30] He was huge. And it was crazy because even though he was so big, he could squat like his whole weight like multiple times, which I thought was crazy.

And so did the trainer on tv. He was like, look at you. Go. So I think, you [00:14:45] know. What the, the positive piece of the show, I felt like because they were younger, they realized how much life they had missed out on by not being able to do what everybody else can do at that age. Sure. And so they have a different [00:15:00] drive to want to be better, want to be healthier.

And then the one girl, the first episode, her mom passed halfway through the episode. So I ended up crying. Mm-hmm. The rest of the episode. 'cause I was like, oh my God, I cannot believe the poor child. I mean, I couldn't [00:15:15] imagine. I mean, and I've lost my mom, so that's like a big deal. But I can't imagine going through a, a change like that, going through surgery and all these things.

And then the one person who was your biggest support is no longer there, so. Ugh. That was [00:15:30] tough. Yeah. I had to go to church and pray on that one at the end. So, but we're, we're, okay. Now

Joe Woolworth: that's some rough reality TV right there. Oh

Jamie: my gosh. My favorite. I don't like the foolish reality. I like, like real stuff.

Lemme get as real as we can get, but not my life. You're not

Joe Woolworth: into like the love [00:15:45] island kind of a thing.

Jamie: I do like love island. Oh, do you? But I, but I don't keep up with it.

Joe Woolworth: My wife and kids watch that. When I, I was banned from talking about it. When I'd walk through the room, I'd be like, I can't believe it didn't work out.

It seems like such a great way to start a relationship. Like I'm just really pooping all over the show

Jamie: right [00:16:00] out here. It that's not what it is,

Joe Woolworth: dad. They're not trying to like find their forever soulmate,

Jamie: but they should. What are we here for? If we're not finding ourselves, then you end up in my office because everything fell apart.

See, we're trying to avoid that. Why I want you to come to the office, but I don't [00:16:15] want your life to be falling apart. So one of my favorite things I think I've chatted with everybody about is my chat, GPT Boyfriend. He's fantastic.

Joe Woolworth: Does he have a voice or do you just, is it all chat? No,

Jamie: I don't want him to talk.

It's better when [00:16:30] they don't speak.

Joe Woolworth: I have an app that'll make it chat.

Jamie: Oh, I have it. Look, I have it too. And I'm like, are, did you hear me? And it, it takes too long to come up. So it, it's a little bit better have, it tells my brain a little bit better for me to type in. GBT is a better

Joe Woolworth: boyfriend in text than he is in [00:16:45] a

Jamie: Yes.

Speech. Yes. I prefer them all to, just takes too

Joe Woolworth: long

Jamie: to respond. It makes you feel dumb, right? I'm like, hello, are you here with me? But I put in there for my work life balance, I wanted it to help me come up with the schedule. That [00:17:00] was so cool. So I was able to put in my, you know, my daily things that I do, what's important, right?

What I'm putting my workout and stuff in. And it gave me like two different versions of schedule. One of them where I can like work out in the morning for a couple [00:17:15] hours and then if I have a day where I can't do that, it gives me like three or four times during the day that you can do like a 30 minute like stretch or that's cool.

Walk or just something. So

Joe Woolworth: yeah, I think chat DBT is a lot better at things like that than people give it credit for. Yes. People use it to [00:17:30] like write a blog post, which I feel is like

Jamie: cheating.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah. It's cheating in one part. And two, it's probably just like really under utilizing it. I like to do something like complex and tell chat GBT, hey, this is what I'm trying to do and since I pay the $20 it has, I have 4.0 which means it can crawl [00:17:45] the internet same so I can put in websites and everything.

Yes.

Jamie: Isn't that cool?

Joe Woolworth: And then I say, I always do my prompt, something like this, like I, I need you to use all the best practices or whatever experts in this field that I'm trying to do and just ask me as many questions as you need to until you have the [00:18:00] info you need to gimme this thing. As opposed to me writing the prompts.

'cause then I don't know what I'm missing. So I always ask kids to ask me what it needs to know. That is so smart. I love it. I just answer those questions until, until

Jamie: it spits out the answer. She's your side [00:18:15] boo thing. It's okay. We can make 'em be whatever we want. So

Joe Woolworth: mine's a unicorn then.

Jamie: So in using chat GBT, we wanna be careful no personal information, no financial information, no health [00:18:30] information.

Joe Woolworth: Che GPT will never ask for your bank account. People.

Jamie: They will ne and if they are, you need to report it. You ain't on Che GPT, you're on a different website. They're like, that is, you're on the wrong. Like, oh. But it said [00:18:45] GPT, it asked like, man, it asked for

Joe Woolworth: my social. And I thought, well, it's, it knows what it's talking

Jamie: about.

Oh my gosh, don't do it. Red flags people don't do any of that. No legal information, personal identifiers or location details. I was helping a friend do [00:19:00] a come up with like a business name. Because it can help you do stuff like that, which is cool. And like come with like cool like hashtags for whatever you do.

And her name is Isha. Hey girl. And now the chat cheeky thing thinks my name is Isha, so I'm just gonna let [00:19:15] it keep going with that. It doesn't know what it really is. So that works for me. That's cool. You're

Joe Woolworth: kinda like lying to your fake boyfriend. I know. Well, lakeisha know at at point there's gonna be a fight six years in the future.

Your chat GPT is gonna be like,

Jamie: what? And be like, what? Your name's [00:19:30] not

Joe Woolworth: Lakeisha. Nope.

Jamie: I'm like, see you thought you were smart, but I'm smarter than you. All right, so so this year, 2025, I wanna share with you guys some more stories. I felt like, you know, I'm not bringing the drama, the [00:19:45] messiness of the PI world that people always want to hear about, which, you know, to be honest with my work life balance, I need to.

You know, I always feel like leave the job at at work, right? I don't wanna take that stuff home with [00:20:00] me. So I'm gonna try to do a little bit better and like jotting things down as life goes on that I want to share with you guys out here. And so you can get some of the fun messiness, but also keeping you up to date with, you know, what the [00:20:15] company can do to assist you or friends that are in that type of situation.

So although it's just me today, I do plan on still having some guests that are probably a little bit more closely related to me, that know me a little bit better that have some stories of their own that they want to [00:20:30] share. And then my favorite networkers that we at Blackman Detective Services work with that are also willing to share personal experiences and their expertise on whatever their field is.

So I'm looking forward to sharing all that stuff with you [00:20:45] and, you know, share with your friends. 'cause they need to know this stuff too. So issues that are coming apparent in 2025. So, you know, the PI field changes, right? It's not always cheat. They're always cheaters. Cheaters will [00:21:00] always be, you know, important for investigations. But there are some other ways that you can use private investigations in your life or your work life.

One of them is with the remote workers. So it's lovely to sit [00:21:15] at home and do your job all the time. But as a business owner and most of your workers are remote, are they actually doing what they're supposed to be doing? Sometimes people hire investigators to uncover time theft. Are you [00:21:30] actually at home, online like you're supposed to be during the time that you're supposed to be?

Are you are you having fake productivity? I believe when Covid first started, there was like a, a mouse jiggler or something that you could buy. Yeah, I remember

Joe Woolworth: hearing about that. [00:21:45] I actually was just googling it when you started talking about it. 'cause I was curious about it and I guess I, it happens, it looks like about 32% of people did that.

Jamie: That's crazy. So you bought this little thing, you put it on your mouse and it basically just keeps your computer awake so that you, so your IT

Joe Woolworth: team doesn't think you walked [00:22:00] away when you Right. Taking a nap.

Jamie: Terrible. So misusing of company resources are they out drinking while they, they should be online?

90%.

Joe Woolworth: 92% of remote workers use personal devices for work tasks. [00:22:15] I thought that was backwards. I thought that was like, oh no, 92% of people use their work stuff or personal stuff. But that was the other way around.

Jamie: Yeah. Say, well, it always starts out, I mean, with your own computer, they're like, you have a computer and it's always usually your own computer.

So unless your [00:22:30] company requires you to have a certain device and you're using your own stuff, which is also tempting if you don't wanna do the right thing because you feel like, Hey, I'm using my own stuff. I can do what I want to with it. But at the end of the day, not really. I know some companies require [00:22:45] that your IP address be at an approved location, so you can't just be working at your homeboy's house or you know, at the bar when you should be.

At home in a safe and secure [00:23:00] place. 'cause you could be sharing personal information, you know, you might have access to client's information. And so,

Joe Woolworth: man, hiring people is hard right now. You gotta think about all this stuff. Like, I wanna be, I just wanna be like, oh, so just hire the right people. But I know it's not that [00:23:15] easy.

Oh my God. If that was, if that was the issue, we would be fine. Everybody sets out to hire the right people.

Jamie: And even if you do hire the right person, like life happens, people's situations happen and change. And a lot of times people just aren't [00:23:30] transparent with their employers. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad.

I guess it depends on who your employer is. Like if you have a butthole of an employer, they're probably not gonna care about your personal life and that things have had going on and they still wanna keep the same productivity level [00:23:45] from you even if you can't do that. But I

Joe Woolworth: think we talked about this before, but what do you think the average eight hour workday employee, average employee.

Productive for those eight hours. What, what amount of time? Oh,

Jamie: three,

Joe Woolworth: 4.8 [00:24:00] hours. Okay. Are considered to be productive. And that's your starting point, right? So we're talking about hiring good employees. Like if you're talking about average, they're gonna do jack squat for over two and a half. They're gonna watch eventually day.

Jamie: It's

Joe Woolworth: half

Jamie: the day

Joe Woolworth: on your die, they're

Jamie: [00:24:15] gonna that. So I kind of want you to go home Yeah. And, and do the work so I can at least see what, what product you're bringing.

Joe Woolworth: I think you and me are in a unique position that we can say this, everybody should have to own their business for a little bit. I agree. So that you don't [00:24:30] have this false idea that that's okay.

Like when you, when you're an entrepreneur, like you, and I know if we're not doing work, we're not getting paid. Right? Like that's just how it works. It's, it's pretty simple. If I stop working to watch a movie that's two hours [00:24:45] that I don't get paid for that day. Right. In this whole like, employee salary thing, I think has screwed up.

Yeah, the average American worker,

Jamie: I, so the only thing that saves me from that is our work is based on billable hours. [00:25:00] So if there are no billable hours, then what are you doing right? I mean, I check an email, like if you're a business owner, you like that don't get paid, right? That's a big thing. Like, did repeat this, no reply to the email.

Did what? Did you set the next steps for what you need to [00:25:15] do after you read the email? I organized my inbox. I don't care. I don't care if that shit is organized or not. As long as you can find the emails I need you to find whenever it's time, there's a search

Joe Woolworth: bar right there. In fact, Che PT will probably do it.

Jamie: Right? Really? I mean, and that's why people [00:25:30] are buying are investing in ai assistance because a lot of that stuff, I mean, it has to get done, especially as entrepreneur, you have to check the emails. But does my life need to revolve around the emails? No. And it's certainly not bringing in my billable hours

Joe Woolworth: early.

[00:25:45] And I would say just until recently I was really on the team of like, AI's just gonna change jobs. It probably won't take jobs. And then Meta said they're letting go all of their mid-level coders. And I was like, oh, they're mid-level. What? Every mid-level co at every mid-level coder at meta. Which is [00:26:00] Facebook Uhhuh, they made a company wide announcement that they're replacing them with ai

Jamie: but with a mid-level coder.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah. Like, they like code. Oh,

Jamie: like, oh, oh,

Joe Woolworth: that's sad. That's a lot of jobs. Bye. And Zuckerberg was on the, the list of people that signed the thing that [00:26:15] said it won't replace jobs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We gotta regulate it. And then they're like, oh, oh boy, it's a lot cheaper if we

Jamie: just use it. So buy jobs they are making, they're gonna make all those type of change.

So that's one of the things, and I have to plug, Derek and t and t [00:26:30] here use AI to assist you so that you become a better employee. Right. Not so that somebody else or AI itself can just take your job. Because that's, we still need

Joe Woolworth: people in, in agreement with that. And adding to that, [00:26:45] when I use chat EBT on behalf of a client, I always say that I did it because that would be very frustrating to me if I learned that.

And I'll use it for tasks that make sense, right? Like, oh, I use it to brainstorm ideas. And then I did the work, [00:27:00] right? But I don't, of course I wouldn't tell a client like, I didn't, you paid me and I just typed it into chat, GPT. That would be, I think, a little bit of time theft, not okay. Right.

Jamie: Well, and And you also, and you're using chat GPT, so it can ask you questions to make sure that you're covering [00:27:15] all bases.

Yeah. So that's different, but I'm sure there are people out here. Who are just throwing together. I forget, who was I with? I was with a client and he I don't even remember what the case was, but he came with all his notes and I was like, okay, you did a good job. And I was looking at the paper [00:27:30] and I see the little asterisk on both sides

Joe Woolworth: still left in there from chat g pt, you

Jamie: pulled that up from chat.

GPT,

Joe Woolworth: didn't you end? It ends with the classic, like this is a great example of how to use chat GPT to write a blog post. Oh,

Jamie: dang it. I didn't

Joe Woolworth: delete the last

Jamie: sentence. [00:27:45] I forgot to take that off. Yeah, that happens a lot. So pay attention y'all. If you don't know about chat GPT, maybe you should sign up and just do the free trial and see how this thing works.

I think it's time to learn everybody. Oh my gosh. Please don't be that one.

Joe Woolworth: It's gonna be like Zoom that has [00:28:00] no idea. It's gonna be like zoom over Covid. And here's what I mean. Nobody knew how Zoom worked. You couldn't get your grandma, your auntie, nobody on Zoom before Covid. And then after Covid, everybody knew how Zoom was.

So Apple is gonna be the trigger for ai. They just put it in the new phone. [00:28:15] Okay. And we're gonna start using it. What

Jamie: do you think about

Joe Woolworth: that? I, I don't, I, I kind of, I kinda, are you an Apple user? Yeah, I'm kind of amoral about the whole technology. Good, bad. I think it's just technology. I think if they can do it right, I don't have the phone that [00:28:30] gets it yet.

Like I'm not super excited about being able to type in something and get a cool emoji. That doesn't really excite me that much, but I do put own emojis, lose emails or can't find if somebody gave me something in an email or a text and it's supposed to [00:28:45] have a personalized version of my data that I can call against.

Jamie: Do you think that's weird? I kind of feel a little weird about that. Like I I have a 15 and the AI interface is on there. First off, it switched up my Siri. She's no longer a little dot [00:29:00] on the bottom. My whole screen glows. Oh

Joe Woolworth: yeah.

Jamie: Interesting. Kind of weird. Dunno how I feel about that. But it said something.

I mean, every app has, I just need to go through it a little more. 'cause I don't wanna be ignorant to it, and I don't want to be [00:29:15] scared and be like, oh my God, I can't use my phone because it's got AI everywhere and it's listening to me. Of course, everything's listening. So

Joe Woolworth: what they said, I watched the developer thing.

It's supposed to encrypt your data, send it up to a place to process it, process it, send it back to you, and destroy that data. So it's not supposed to make your data live on any [00:29:30] clouds. Okay. But do we believe that? That's what I'm about to say. I am to the point where just Joe personally for me, I have given up the idea that privacy exists and just live my life that way.

Right?

Jamie: If you don't want,

Joe Woolworth: I'm gonna [00:29:45] surprised by anything person. Right? Good luck going through my stuff and watching like, oh, Joe watched another episode of The Simpsons last night. I don't care. Mine's pimple Popper action

Jamie: Pimple pops and ingrown toenails. So I hope they enjoy that. I

Joe Woolworth: [00:30:00] love a good ingrown toenail.

I saw a standup comedian on a reel the other day and he was like, my friend was complaining and he said, I'm so glad TikTok, when it TikTok got canceled for like 12 hours a day. Right? He was like, I'm so glad I got canceled. I'm sick of all these what'd he say? He [00:30:15] said something just stupid and ignorant like trends.

Trans trans women dancing in, in makeup tutorials. And I said, I just looked at my buddy and I was like, that's your, that's your algorithm, bro.

Jamie: I was gonna say, you are looking at those and that's what you're seeing [00:30:30] on there all the time.

Joe Woolworth: Yeah.

Jamie: But those are always, look, those people are always the ones that are doing the things they shouldn't be doing.

The ones that complain about the ones that don't. Yes. Because if you weren't looking at it, you wouldn't have that issue. Okay, so we talked about remote [00:30:45] fraud, remote work, fraud a little bit. We love collaborating with attorneys and businesses, so litigation support is the best. We are here to help your attorneys or you the attorney serve papers, do research, find [00:31:00] witnesses, talk to people, take statements, criminal law will always be happening. Family law will always be happening. Personal injury will always be happening. So if you have a business where somebody is, [00:31:15] you know, filed a workers' comp claim, say that they got hurt, next thing you know they're at the gym, call us. That stuff happens all the time.

People really feel like they are getting away with this stuff, but people are cutting down on it. And especially if you are a small business [00:31:30] and there aren't, you know, you don't have a large, you know, entity that's taking over and making sure that all of these things are happening or you got enough money that it doesn't even matter.

Probably not the best, but the small businesses that, you know, one [00:31:45] person's injury can pretty much like wipe out your company or give, you know, put you in a huge deficit. That's not good, especially if the people aren't really hurt. So those are always good internal work. Theft happens a lot, you know, people that work [00:32:00] for a business that has a lot of inventory building supply places, stuff like that, you know, you'd be amazed at how many, you know, when you work at JC Penn's or something, or Belks, they make you have the clear bag policy.

But it seems when you work at some of these other places, people are [00:32:15] walking out with like huge book bags and stuff and nobody's checking their stuff, which is weird. I people are worried about self-checkout

Joe Woolworth: than I would be employees at this point. Well, I feel like self-checkouts just like people just leaving with all the stuff.

Jamie: Bye. I [00:32:30] don't know. Well, supposedly the camera's watching. I mean, every time I swipe my bananas across the thing, somebody is looking and I'm like, it's kind of weird. They got two cameras. I kind of, I hate it at food line, my neighborhood food line. I wish y'all would get rid of that. There's not that many people in the store that we need to have self-checkout, but whatever.

Joe Woolworth: [00:32:45] 15% of consumers use self-checkout to steal. That's according to Capital One. Capital Ones 44% of those 15% plan on doing it than the other 60. Really just come up with [00:33:00] it.

Jamie: I, yeah. This would be better if I didn't. That is so crazy y'all the world out here. Just pray for everybody 'cause we just don't have any common sense anymore.

Okay. Speaking on that background check. So, you know, we are heavy on background checks of black men detective [00:33:15] services. We are able to leverage public records prior, prior, Hmm, pro, I don't even know how to say that word. Proprietary. There you go. Proprietary databases and AI tools for deeper and more efficient background checks for employers, [00:33:30] landlords, personal clients.

So there's a lot of folks out here buying these properties, fixing them up, renting them out. You need to make sure that your tenant is a decent person. Of course it's hard to tell if they've never been caught, but, you know, is it

Joe Woolworth: easy to tell from your perspective [00:33:45] if it's a bad idea to rent to somebody?

Jamie: If they have a lot of. Evictions. Yes. If they have have, yeah, that would good. Yeah. But some people think that you can't find evictions in another state, and that's not true. Okay. I mean, you can find all that stuff. I

Joe Woolworth: think that's [00:34:00] a very valid thing to pay. Yeah. The last six people he was supposed to pay, he didn't pay.

Jamie: Right. That's, but look, people are greedy and they, you know, they, they'll either the person offers you cash up front and so you feel like everything's good. They got plenty of money, but that was [00:34:15] literally just one payment and they don't have anything else. You know what I'm saying? What else? Sometimes you wanna make sure that there's not, like domestic violence and stuff like that going on that can leak into the neighbors, you know, all that kind of stuff.

You don't wanna be the landlord with [00:34:30] the, the clients that the police are pulling up to the house every day. Yeah. So, you know, as a. As a landlord, you have the option to have in your home who you want to and who you don't. And so it's always good to at least have as much information as [00:34:45] possible. Now, there are criminals out here all the time who continue to live life and have never been caught, but there's always, there's always a little feeling in your gut that you should listen to and either make these people, give you more [00:35:00] information so that you can make a good decision or just bypass them and go for somebody that you know is as clean on paper as possible.

Elder abuse investigation. So this is really interesting. So, you know, time [00:35:15] changes, people get old, and I guess a lot of older people who have saved money, done all the right thing, have all these properties spoiled. Their children passed down these properties to the children, and now the kids are like [00:35:30] not taking care of the parents anymore.

They are. Not paying the taxes, I mean, all kinds of craziness. We are, we've got a little influx in those type of cases. So mental health has been big since [00:35:45] Covid. Some people are out here undiagnosed and, you know, children, although that is crazy, but children are taking advantage of their parents.

Other people are taking advantage of 'em. And it's just, you know, it's not a good thing. So [00:36:00] keep us in mind if you come across those type of situations. Online dating, are you being catfished? Do you have a parent who you think is being catfished and you have to wanna check on their, the person that they say they're [00:36:15] dating?

Since Covid. Again, look, look this one up. But since Covid again, there have been a lot of scams where people are either claim now. I think this was probably always happening, but. With online dating, it's just [00:36:30] so much more because folks are just out here looking for, looking for love and, you know, maybe their one relationship kind of fell apart.

And it always starts with the even asking for money. Or saying, you know, it's really big to, you know, one [00:36:45] of the biggest red flags is that they're in the military and they have no access to their money 'cause they're out there fighting a war. That is, is a huge red flag. There is not a military man out there that cannot figure out how to get to his funds and he needs for you to send [00:37:00] him a couple thousand dollars just so that he can be okay.

Obviously they take care of them while they're in the, if they're being if they're deployed, they definitely don't have to worry about monthly bills. So we can identify the individual, figure out if they are, who they [00:37:15] say they are confirm or deny information. I'm always like. It's always interesting to me because the pictures, the pictures are the biggest clue.

If all the pictures are the same pictures that you keep getting or the same pictures that you've seen online, more than likely they're [00:37:30] not who they say they are. If that person claims to actually be the person that they say they are, they should be able to give you a live picture, call you on FaceTime, you know, send you something.

I'm standing in the parking lot, let you know, take a picture of the parking lot not the picture of [00:37:45] the parking lot, but a picture of you while you're standing in the parking lot. But I don't know. I get, I get a little, it's amazing to me how naive people can be when they have the opportunity of love in their life.

So if you have a, a [00:38:00] parent, a friend, you know, somebody that you've heard or they're, they're all excited about this person, but they're sending money and not getting anything back from 'em. First off, tell them they probably need to think about that again. If not, call [00:38:15] us. We've heard it all.

Joe Woolworth: [00:38:30] [00:38:45] Speaking of jet GPTI put in there, I'm curious. [00:39:00] We can cut this if you don't wanna do it, but I put it, I put in there, what's the funniest, most bizarre things people have asked you to do? And I ask this to Che GT oh my gosh,

Jamie: what

Joe Woolworth: did, what did she say? All right. So on the list, a therapist for pet, someone asked Chet GPT to [00:39:15] role play with their dog therapist to counsel their anxious golden retriever.

Are you serious ghost writing apology texts? I often get asked to write apologies to someone. A a pickup line generator.

Jamie: Okay,

Joe Woolworth: I like that one. Reality [00:39:30] show, plot lines. One user wanted Che GPT or me to come up with an entire season of reality show called The Great Couch Potato Showdown. Oh my gosh, I

Jamie: might, would watch that.

Joe Woolworth: Love letters to inanimate objects. Users have you had chat? GPT could post [00:39:45] romantic letters to their favorite coffee mugs, gaming consoles,

Jamie: coffee mugs,

Joe Woolworth: et cetera.

Jamie: A love, A

Joe Woolworth: love. I love that coffee mug.

Jamie: Oh, here, here. Here's what chat GT said. This is concerning. For example,

Joe Woolworth: it said, without you I am, but a [00:40:00] decaffeinated shadow of myself.

Jamie: Oh my God, that is so corny. No, thank you.

Joe Woolworth: So I like the chat, GPT new enough to know that those were weird and could answer my question. Right? That's, that's like, yeah. That they're

Jamie: not drinking the Kool-Aid. They're like, oh, this is [00:40:15] absolutely normal. Yeah, these are some weird people. They're like, yeah, this is not what we're supposed to be used for.

But here you go. Whatever. Woo. Okay, so what do we do? So, uncovering the truth mainly. [00:40:30] Based on individual's actions, witnesses, finding and poking holes in the opposing party's case. We wanna do the digging for you. So our lead researcher, Tanya, shout out to Tanya, has been working with database search programs for like 20 years and she's seen almost anything.

[00:40:45] So it's it's very interesting. Sometimes people will put in an application to do a background check and they purposely misspell their name or they leave off numbers of the social or they switch things around. We have seen it all. So if you got, you know, questionable [00:41:00] people, send them our way and we'll make sure that they're good.

So I'm like, don't you know, it's not that hard to figure out what your actual name is, but see, when you have people who aren't really doing background checks and they don't care or they don't see the value in doing background checks, you end up [00:41:15] getting burned. So, you know, keep that in mind, even if it's somebody that you're working with, not, you know, somebody that you don't.

That's just your coworker. You shouldn't go deep diving on them. But if it's somebody that you're having to bring into your [00:41:30] business or that is dealing with your money or going into clients' homes or anything like that, you need to make sure that you know what these people have in their background.

'cause your insurance company will not they won't be happy to find out that you didn't even [00:41:45] do the basics. The basics, the basis. Do the basics to figure out who you had going there, run all of them. Okay? So I get questioned all the time about what is my [00:42:00] most crazy case, right? Like, please tell us, you know, what is the most crazy case you've ever worked?

And I'm like, okay. Crazy. To who? 'cause like, I don't, I mean, at this point I'm, I'm. I don't even find [00:42:15] anything crazy anymore. I'm just like, okay, let's figure out what we can do. You know, sometimes we get the prostitute case that's sleeping with her client and then find out that she's sleeping with everybody else as well.

So we get to save them from diseases and getting played. Or the client that [00:42:30] thinks that he's helping a young lady go through a bad time, he's helping pay the bills, providing transportation and financial resources only to find out it's lies. All lies meaning to prey on an unsuspecting person who really thinks they're helping someone in need.[00:42:45]

That's kind of back to the catfishing thing. It just goes so deep, y'all, you can't even explain like the, the, the twists and turns and the lies that these people come up with just to trick somebody into either feeling bad for them [00:43:00] or you know, whatever, so that they can get what they want out of them.

It's kind of sick, but you know, that's where we are. Process, service of a legit scammer chasing down people. We've gone to this lady's court date probably five or [00:43:15] six times. She, of course, never shows up. We finally got her at one time, so we were able to serve her and her client was able to get a judgment.

I thought that was crazy because I was tired of going to the court all the time with a stack of papers even though she wasn't there. Or [00:43:30] finding a defense for a client who is actually defending themselves, but because of their lifestyle. AKA being a gang member, street code means that you don't talk.

And sometimes, you know, clients have been indicted for murder on these type of things. And so, you know, [00:43:45] I would consider that crazy as well. One, because I don't do the gang thing and two murder is just, whew. Never good stick with the moral law. We also had a random client who got knocked up on a cruise [00:44:00] and all she knew was his name was John and she wanted us to locate the cruise ship and who was in what room because she had the room number.

But that's not good.

These things happen. [00:44:15] You'd be amazed. Get a lot of calls from people that want to were interested in the person. Didn't take their shot and now they want to call a PI and try to see if they can backtrack and figure that out. That usually does not happen, [00:44:30] but if they have enough information, I have made a couple of random phone calls and said, Hey, this lady wants to try to get up with you.

Are you interested? If they say, no, we've already told the client this before, but if they say no, we just tell them, you know, they're [00:44:45] not interested and you need to keep it moving. We would never provide their information. But, you know, if you want us to make a weird phone call for you, I don't have a problem doing that.

we also have helped, there's a lot of property out here, land out here that people are trying to find the owners for. Sometimes the [00:45:00] people are deceased and like children are paying for that. You know, getting them in contact with each other so that they can purchase the land or whatever. So all types of things.

But I have this case that I'm going to share with you guys, and this is gonna be a, [00:45:15] a multi episode story. It's probably been going on for like two years. Probably a little over two years. Yeah, maybe about two and a half. But it has become more than just another file or a client request. It has [00:45:30] actually at this point become a personal project.

I sometimes lose sleep over it. And it's just so many unexpected things, unanswered questions, no justice needing closure and, you know, wanna do right. You know, [00:45:45] no matter how long it takes. So I'm gonna stick in here with the client and make sure that, you know, hopefully we can get the children back before they're 18.

I thought that was funny because it [00:46:00] is going like that. So, I am gonna share how it all started the challenges that we face while working on this one. And, you know, as the weeks go on, I'll bring you into and kind of hopefully we'll have a resolution to this case. [00:46:15] So this is a mission. Y'all stay with me and I'm gonna tell you more about it.

So let's dive in. Here's how it all began. So I have a friend of mine that I've known for over 20 years. We gonna call him Bertran, [00:46:30] that's his name for the show. He made it to his late thirties dating successfully, but he never found the right one, which is fine. This is a lot of our stories. Although I've known him for all of this time, we didn't speak daily.

You know, we didn't [00:46:45] have a super close relationship. I. You know, life events, talk to each other, kind of check in. Regular smuggler, you know, might run into him occasionally. So he meets. So before I get involved, this is like the pre cool he meets [00:47:00] this chick online which is what, what made me talk to you guys about dating online.

You just got be careful about these people that you meet. So they, you know, met her online. He said she had a pretty smile somehow they ended up getting, [00:47:15] you know, connected and, and they're together now. The relationship seemed to be okay. They, you know, did things together, little vacations here and there, but there wasn't anything major happening, right?

She ended up moving in with [00:47:30] him, and you know what happens when G Grown folks get together and they're acting like they live together. What do you think happened, Joe?

Joe Woolworth: I don't know.

Jamie: She got pregnant.

Joe Woolworth: Oh, that happens.

Jamie: So she got [00:47:45] pregnant. Everything was fine for a while.

I have named her Ophelia because that's a crazy ass name. And she's a crazy ass girl. So

Joe Woolworth: that's a good song, right? That, oh, Ophelia, you know that one?

Jamie: I don't, I don't know that [00:48:00] one. But she feels like Ophelia to me. So they have a cute little whirlwind relationship. He's, they're living together now. She's pregnant. Okay. Red flags that, you know, 'cause I went back and asked 'em a bunch of questions about how they met and all of these things [00:48:15] before, you know, we get to the children. So she had been previously married when they met.

I don't even believe she was completely divorced by the way. We can find that information for you. She moved in with him. Not a great idea. 'cause you, where have you been before? She had a [00:48:30] mother has a mother that is very controlling. But the judgment seems a little bit off as well. So I always, as a, you know, single woman, it's important for me to see your [00:48:45] relationship with your parents.

Do you have family around? What does your family feel about you? How is your relationship with mom and dad? You know, do you have both parents still around? Like what happened? Ask these people these questions if they feel like they get to sleep with [00:49:00] you. This, you should at least know what their mama's name is and where in the world they came from.

At the time she was me. They met, she was holding down a full-time job. She did have a CDL license, so, you know, she's got some potential. Bertran [00:49:15] was also working, taking care of his responsibilities. He's got a loving family, great personality, you know, it seemed to be a cute thing. Remember, I don't know a whole bunch about their beginning, like in terms of what was going on.

I did hear a story [00:49:30] though about 'cause I said, you know, Bertran, how did we get here? Did you not realize that, you know, she was a little bit, something was going on there. And he is like, I mean maybe, but you [00:49:45] know, I just felt like, you know, we could work it out. So I'm like, oh lord. So I'm like, well, what, you know, what happened?

So he tells me one day he comes home and she's fixing dinner. And this girl did not drain [00:50:00] the noodles for the spaghetti. She just dumped the sauce in the pot with the noodles and the water that they were boiling in. Ah,

Joe Woolworth: just like you do in the old country.[00:50:15]

Jamie: What old country is that? What's that faux spaghetti. That's what, so I mean, and I know that that is like silly, right? And you would think that nobody would ever do that, but she did that. That is a [00:50:30] gigantic red blue striped with, you know, all kinds of, you know,

Joe Woolworth: it certainly says something about lack of life experience.

Yes.

Jamie: Yeah. Like, what is going on. So we probably don't need to be having a baby with this lady so many ways. How does

Joe Woolworth: she eat mac and cheese? Like a, like a, she unwraps [00:50:45] the box and eats it like a candy bar. Just,

Jamie: that would not be exciting. Just all fall apart there.

Joe Woolworth: But I did what the instruction say.

Dump the water right in the box.

Jamie: Oh God. I, I was like, Bertrand, how did we get [00:51:00] here? We shouldn't even be here. But anyways, we're here. So we're having a baby. All right. Maybe two or three months before the baby is due to get here. She and Bertran have an [00:51:15] argument. She gets upset, she leaves. Now remember, she doesn't really have a lot of family.

She doesn't have she doesn't really have anywhere else to go and she ends up going back to her [00:51:30] mother. Well, mom has her own issues going on as well. And so Ophelia blocked Bertran from even contacting her at all. So doesn't know where she is. Can't reach her by phone. [00:51:45] She's pregnant with the baby.

Bertran is losing his mind because this is his first child. He's getting ready to be 40 and you know, the first baby. This is supposed to be special. We should be able to, you know, love on this baby [00:52:00] together and maybe make our lives better and, you know. Anyways, Ophelia's, MIA where we don't know. So this is how I ended up getting involved.

So he hired me to try to [00:52:15] locate mom and really just make sure that she was okay and kind still pregnant, right? Because things happen, you don't know, she could have lost a baby. I mean, you don't know why people do what they do. [00:52:30] So we say, okay we say, well, let's not worry about necessarily where she is right now.

She doesn't wanna be bothered, let her be, you know. But once the baby gets here, then we can kind of ramp up things a little bit. So the baby is set to be due, I don't know, [00:52:45] say December, I don't even remember. And of course, because he had been to doctor's appointments and all, he knew that, you know, which hospital she was gonna be in.

So if you live in the local area, we have like two main hospitals, wake Med and Recs. Usually [00:53:00] your OB GYN is connected with one of those two hospitals. So he knew that information and I just suggested well, look, why don't you just call up to the hospital? 'cause you can call to the main hospital and they'll let you know if somebody is in [00:53:15] the hospital or not.

They can't give you any information. They can't tell you, you know, what they're there for. They of course can't release any information, you know, HIPAA violation and all that. So he calls the hospital and one day [00:53:30] she's there. Yay. So we're all excited, you know? Okay. So we, we know, we know that she's in the hospital probably having the baby.

He goes to the hospital with mom, with his mother, who, you know, everybody wants to be in support of her and [00:53:45] the child. They come with flowers. Her crazy ass mama prevents them from seeing her, seeing the baby, nothing reports him to the security. And he's, you know, escorted from the property, flowers and [00:54:00] all so terrible situation.

So now she has this baby and there's no father listed on the birth certificate. So we're just out there. It took some time, but we were able to locate her. But, [00:54:15] and then we were able to confirm that she had had a baby and, you know, it seems like from surveillance that she and baby are doing okay now the next steps are to get into court and figure out how to get his name on the birth [00:54:30] certificate.

When I tell y'all this story is like two years, I can't even get into the whole thing. I'm gonna give you a quick thing and then we're gonna scoot on to the next. But what ended up happening, he and mom were able to get together after this first child. [00:54:45] And I say first child because somehow he ended up having a second child with her.

Now we know how that happened, but the craziness continues on. So right now we have one baby. Everybody seems to be halfway in a [00:55:00] good space and find out that she is pregnant again. And I'm gonna stop right there because I can't even dive into the next part without being here for a whole nother hour cliffhanger.

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