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(upbeat music)
Oh, that is so good. When
you're a coffee drinker,
those are the best sips.
Yes. Right, that first one.
First sip of coffee is just,
it's so pleasant.
It starts your day off right.
I really need this, Mommy!
Nobody's breath is pleasant.
No matter what. Ever.
Never are you like,
open your mouth, let me.
Let me smell.
From the depths of your lungs,
give me just a walked,
from as deep as you can get it.
That is nasty, that kind
of ruined my coffee for me
this morning, I'm sorry everybody.
It stands for morning mayhem.
Morning mayhem, yeah.
I'm not gonna be confused
with the little
chocolate candies that we eat.
I don't even know that reference.
M&Ms? Oh.
Okay, you have, maybe you
do need it for the caffeine.
Morning mayhem, so I'm like,
what kind of candy is
named morning mayhem?
I'm like, is this that Texas thing?
Probably another Minnesota thing.
That's my exasperated saying.
Are you kidding me?
Jiminy Christmas?
Shut it down, baby.
Gotta shut this mouth up
and shut this story down.
So I'm like, long story short.
You're gonna shut up and shut down.
You're using your brain.
You know how it's difficult to do that.
You always say, we're gonna miss this
when those little voices
aren't doing that together.
And those shoes aren't in
the middle of the floor.
Yeah, I only wanna work in the second.
Yeah, out of five people, one of us has
had canes in our family.
And that's like a big deal down here.
Same with Waterburger,
I've never had Waterburger.
Never had it.
When we lived in
Chicago, we never had Castle.
White Castle. White Castle.
Maybe join the World
Aerobic Championships.
I can, I can.
Do you remember those people like kicking
and dancing and leotards?
I have enough headbands or
leotards for that matter.
A lot of spandex. A lot of spandex.
A lot of lycra.
I don't have any spandex.
Oh darn, I guess I can't
beat the next Jane Fonda.
One, two, three.
Tick tock. Normal C.
Need to suck in that
face skin a little bit.
Low taper food.
Whatever our kids do.
Yeah, mewing.
Mewing.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
La La Land.
La La Land.
Oh.
An actual Academy Award winner, right?
I think so.
Was that the one that actually won it,
not the one that was said wrong?
Oh yeah.
That vaguely reminds me.
What movie was said
wrong, do you remember?
If you're gonna bring that
up, you gotta remember it.
Which I know, that
was more of a question.
Which one was--
Here's what I'll do.
Last time we were
gonna edit something in,
so what I'll do is you'll remember it,
and by the time I edit
this and put it on YouTube,
it'll be right here in the middle of us.
Oh, sure.
This movie right here.
This movie right here was announced.
Yeah, that's right.
Let's both be in here and look at it
so I can get that on the TikTok one
or you can put our faces in there.
Oh, that movie.
That, yeah.
Uh-huh.
(laughing) Cheers, welcome everybody.
Cheers.
There it is.
Usually there's a stronger beverage,
but this is the beverage
we always start out with,
a little bit of coffee.
This is the second time
we've ever shot in the morning.
We got up extra early.
Yup, yup.
And we're, I don't know
if this is real pep yet
or if this is really pushing through
because I'm first sipping to the coffee.
Yeah, you know, I gotta say,
I've noticed over the last month or so,
I like down my coffee almost.
Yeah.
To the point that I'm
starting to drink a second cup,
which I've never done. I've noticed.
Now usually it is decaf,
my second cup is decaf.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it just
tastes good or I'm thirsty,
but anyway, so I'm probably,
I've had probably more
coffee than you have.
You probably have.
That's funny.
I was literally thinking as
we were preparing for this
that we're having coffee on here
and you know, I just
started drinking coffee
when I was 45 maybe.
I don't even know that
it's been that long ago.
I'm like two years
into my coffee journey.
Yeah.
But that first, right
now we're just having
those first sips, which is the best.
Oh, it is so good. When
you're a coffee drinker,
those are the best sips.
Yes.
Right, that first one.
First sip of coffee is
just, it's so pleasant.
It starts your day off right.
I held off for a long time.
I was kind of proud of it.
Everybody had was, I
kind of thought of it
as a crutch for some people.
I gotta have my coffee.
Don't talk to me before I have my coffee.
And I was like, I just need orange juice.
And I don't know what it is.
I don't need the caffeine necessarily,
but now I like the taste.
I used to, like coffee ice
cream I'll still pass on.
That's the bueno.
And you love that.
So in 20 years, I'll be late.
I'm late to everything, you know?
Amazon took me a while to catch on.
Now we've been there
for a long time, but--
We have.
When it first started in
Chicago, we lived in Chicago.
We had a buddy and
people might remember this.
I don't even remember this.
This is before we got on
Amazon, but they sent out buttons.
So if you needed say TP or a coffee,
paper towels or whatever, yeah.
But they'd send you like
a, literally like a button,
like an easy button.
And you'd put it in
your cabinet or wherever
and you just hit that
button and automatically,
whenever you hit that
button, they would deliver it
within the next day or two.
Obviously they did away with that, but--
Right.
These are like, I really need this mommy.
15 cases of toilet paper.
Right, right.
Wow, big plans.
They must be having burritos for dinner.
That's right.
What was that burrito comment
we just had the other night?
Oh, that might've been a soccer comment.
That was a soccer comment, yeah, yeah.
So anyways, yeah, so
coffee, I remember though,
part of it was I grew up with,
my parents never drank coffee,
so that was a big part
of it, big part of it.
But I do remember people
that I would meet or talk to.
And I remember coffee
breath was a thing to me.
Oh yeah.
And I didn't like coffee breath.
It still is.
It is, I don't, and now
I'm one of them, you know?
So it's like, hi.
Hi.
Yeah.
I like that, so that
probably turned me off for a while.
I can see that.
Although even when I was in the office,
are you really close
enough to people to be like,
and I smell people's
breath, not intentionally,
it just comes with a wicked nose, right?
All the time, and
coffee breath is one that,
if you're at an
acceptable distance like we are,
I would never be able to smell it.
No, I thought you were
gonna say it was pleasant, yeah.
No, I'm sorry.
Nobody's breath is pleasant.
No matter what. Ever.
Mint gum?
I guess, I guess.
Maybe if you just--
Those little mints that I eat at church.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean--
Never are you like,
open your mouth, let me--
Let me smell.
From the depths of
your lungs, give me a--
That is so good.
Just a waft from as
deep as you can get it.
That is nasty, that
kinda ruined my coffee
for me this morning.
I'm sorry everybody. Sorry, yeah.
I gotta switch to that one.
I know.
You gotta switch on to that.
It's a morning, it's a morning,
it's like a morning cereal edition of--
Of, yes.
Oh, it's a morning mayhem.
It's morning mayhem.
M&M.
Around the house here,
we refer to this podcast
as M&M, Mr. and Mrs.
But sometime this morning,
it stands for morning mayhem.
Morning mayhem, yeah.
Don't you be confused with
the little chocolate candies
that we eat.
I don't even know that reference.
M&Ms?
Oh.
(laughing)
Okay, you have, maybe you
do need it for the caffeine.
Morning mayhem, so I'm like,
what kinda candy is named morning mayhem?
I'm like, is this a Texas thing?
Probably another Minnesota thing.
Minnesota has a lot of weird things,
including M&M candies, apparently.
Let me just explain just briefly though
that I'm not that stupid.
I mean, close, but not quite that stupid.
Partially what's in my mind right now
is on morning cereal this morning,
I refer to a black cow.
Yes, you did.
Which is an old
reference to a black cow float,
which is another name
for a root beer float.
Yes.
And so my mind was on this, like,
well, there's all these other
names of things that I like,
but I just don't know it,
because I don't know that name.
Right, right.
Morning mam's love those.
Right, right.
Pop a couple morning
mam's and I'm good to go.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love that.
It was a fair comment.
Minnesota has some
very unique things that,
like, I don't know if
it's just a Northern thing,
and so every now and
again, I'll pull it out,
and I'm like, wait, that's not a thing?
You're like, no, no.
Kinda like your dad's sayings.
Oh.
You used to pull those out,
and when he pulls some of
those out, it's like, whoa.
I'm sure it's a
saying up north, northwest.
Yeah, those are
usually rural Iowa sayings.
Rural Iowa sayings.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think pretty much,
I don't know if it's a rural Iowa,
but is it a rural, just kind of anything,
kinda has a couple colloquialisms, man.
In my, I can just tell
you, in my past career,
as a banker doing a lot of food
and agribusiness banking,
I made my way out to
a lot of rural areas,
and I don't know that I ever heard
one of your dad's quotes quoted.
Yeah.
And I've been all over to rural,
I've been rural everywhere.
You've been rural everywhere.
Yeah, well.
He's just one in a million.
Yes, he is.
Or rural Iowa is just extra special.
Shout out to bobbers.
Yeah, we can't even say--
Can we say names?
Yeah, we can say names, we can say, yeah.
Although we can't say
most of the sayings.
Yeah, that's right.
Most of them include a four-letter word.
That's right, that's right.
I mean, everybody's grown up with that.
Everybody knows certain
things that their parents say.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, if
anybody watching right now,
they're probably thinking of the things,
my parents said this all the time.
Yeah.
It's one of those things like,
they put them on the gravestones.
Yeah, yeah.
Our kids know some of my sayings.
Oh my gosh, you have a
shirt with one of your sayings.
Yeah, yeah, Jiminy Christmas.
Jiminy Christmas.
Yeah, that's my exasperated saying.
Like, are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Jiminy Christmas.
Because I don't, I don't cuss.
For no other reason than,
maybe it's like coffee,
I'll end up doing it someday.
I just don't cuss.
So Jiminy Christmas is my like, uh oh.
It's like my, I had a
football coach in ninth grade
who would get so mad,
but he never cussed.
He would yell, farm houses.
(laughing) I mean, it had the
opposite effect on all of us.
Like, oh, you're not scary at all.
Like, we're just
laughing at what you say.
You're like, yeah,
that's, I'm just giggling.
I mean, you have my attention.
Which is not the way you
wanted to have my attention.
One of yours is, let's get it back.
Oh my gosh, I, yeah.
It's soccer games, we get scored on.
Let's get it back.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the glass half full mentality.
Yeah, it is.
Right?
Yeah, sure it is.
I have no doubt.
I'm trying to think, I
can't think of any of my parents
one other than, I can't
think of any of my parents.
I know, I am.
I'd have to sit and think of it.
I'd have to think about it.
We've been so far
removed from it right now.
Yeah, but there are certain things that,
you know, my parents say,
there's a word that I use
and you're like, oh my gosh,
you sound just like your mom
when you say it.
Oh, it's a certain way
you say certain things.
Yeah.
You, yeah, those are your ronda-isms.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't do it
constantly, but when it's out,
it's like her head appears
on your face, on your body.
It's like, whoa, ronda, welcome.
Yeah.
Didn't know you were around.
I don't know if it's rascals.
There's like a word
that it's like, oh yeah,
that's what my mom would say.
I'll point it out to
you next time you do it,
because it's something you do obviously,
and I'm like, oh, there's ronda.
It's a ronda-ism.
I say it, I usually say it to you.
Yeah, you do.
Because it's so obvious when it happens.
Yeah, but you can't really, I mean,
so much of that is
just part of who you are.
You don't even realize you do it.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
And so you're like, ah, I don't.
You know how you
realize you do things a lot,
is when you edit yourself on a podcast.
Really?
Yeah, so one of the things
I say a lot on this podcast
in particular is, what do I say?
Now, I say, long story short.
That's what it is.
I had to think of it for a second.
I say long story short,
because it's already been
a long story when I say it,
and I'm like, I gotta close this one.
I gotta shut this up.
Shut it down, maybe.
Shut this up?
I gotta shut this mouth up
and shut this story down,
is the way I was thinking there.
And so I'm like, long story short.
(laughing) You're gonna shut up and shut down.
Yeah, and on morning
cereal, I say right all the time.
Yeah.
And I am not good at
transitions on morning cereal yet.
I've done 120 episodes on that,
and I still say, well, way too much.
Well, well, it's the easiest transition,
but when you transition every 30 seconds
to a different segment
or something like that.
Yeah, so I guess, feedback.
I listen to morning cereal every day,
and I've never noticed
that you say well too much.
Oh, great, now it's gonna be, now I just,
I'll cut that out, nobody
needs to know that one then.
(laughing) You keep your
transition, because nobody notices.
Yeah.
There you go.
Well, you're preparing
for another work trip.
I know, I've had a lot of,
I don't usually travel for work.
Yeah.
I don't, well, I
mean, what, twice a year?
How many?
I mean, a lot of the people that we know
have one or two parents
that travel quite a bit
for work.
Right, I don't know how that works.
Well, you do, because we do it.
Yeah, it's exhausting.
So you know exactly how it works.
It doesn't work well, I guess.
I don't know how it works well.
Yeah.
And I don't travel, when you were
traveling at your most,
I traveled none, basically.
Once, maybe twice a year.
Yeah.
And that's how it worked.
I mean, if both of us traveled
as much as you used to travel.
Crazy.
I mean, there'd be no way.
I mean, I had a couple of friends,
I feel like that their family does that.
Yeah.
And then they travel,
because they have a couple of older kids,
they travel even more with their kids.
Yeah.
Cross country.
Yeah.
For activities.
I mean, it's difficult.
I will say, when I traveled though,
I, and we talked about
this a little bit last week,
I don't like being away from the family.
I'm a home person.
I love the comfort, the
creature comforts of home.
I love my family, I love
being around my family.
Now, they may not feel the same way,
because when I'm
home, sometimes, you know,
dad's dropping the hammer, you know,
things might be easier when I'm not here.
But I just never loved traveling.
Maybe early on, it was
like, maybe it was sexy.
I've always talked about that.
It's not sexy.
Once you do it for 20 years,
another airplane, another
airport, another hotel room,
it's not sexy.
Plus, like I've talked about,
I went to a lot of rural areas,
where there was huge
manufacturing plants,
and that's where we passed.
But I will say that I did
enjoy the night or two off,
I thought I didn't miss the family.
But those were a night or two.
And you knew, because you would call me,
and I'd be like, "Mags,"
because generally
speaking, I was talking all day.
I was with a client, I
was with a prospect, right?
So I'm on it all day,
intellectually, on top of it.
You're having high-level conversations.
You know, you're using your brain.
And you know how it's
difficult to do that.
Oh, yeah.
You know, for a sustained period.
There's a come-down period from that,
especially for me as an introvert.
So at those nights,
I'd be like, "Hey, Megs,
"let you go."
Yeah.
You're like, "I love you.
"Love you more than anything.
"Love the kids, can I let you go?"
So I can just sit here and
stare at a TV in a hotel room.
Yeah, yeah.
And not have, did you
like the fact that you had,
you don't have
decisions, you don't have people,
kids usually,
pestering you or asking you,
even just little things?
It wasn't that, it was just downtime.
Yeah.
Like, I don't, I love the kids around.
As much, I'm talking
too much this morning,
I'm being aware of it.
But you always say,
"We're gonna miss this
"when those little
voices aren't doing that."
Yeah.
Or, you know, "Those shoes aren't
"in the middle of the floor."
Yeah.
So, you know, I do try
to take that to heart,
because you say that quite a bit to
remind us to enjoy that.
But one or two nights
every two weeks is not bad,
just to sit and do nothing.
Mm-hmm.
You know, a lot of times I
have the personal computer
and try to, you know, I'd
have to catch up on this or that.
Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, what--
I was gonna say for you, well, go ahead.
Oh, yeah, no, I was gonna
say, what was the worst,
obviously, being away from the family.
That never gets easy for anyone.
What was the worst part about it?
The worst part of traveling would be,
that's a good question.
I mean, I had it so
down that it was being away
from the family.
Yeah.
You know, maybe the
airport was the worst part of it.
Yeah.
Dealing with a bunch of travelers.
Yeah.
That don't travel frequently.
Frequently. Oh, you have to take your, sir,
you are in the pre-TSA line,
yet you still need to take your phone out
of your back pocket.
Thanks for doing, oh, sir,
you gotta take your car keys
out of your pocket to go
through the metal detector.
Yeah.
You know, same guy.
Oh, same guy, he's coming back through.
Oh, for some reason, you have $4.88 of
change in your pocket.
Sir, that's gotta come out, you know?
And then, you know, these 80, I don't,
I'm trying to be more positive,
especially pre-7 a.m. or whatever it is,
that was the most frustrating thing.
Yeah.
You know, or people, I flew Southwest,
and I am anal, I am anal, and I know
people watching this
will be like, yeah, that's
anal, Sean, I know it's anal.
Southwest, I'm a rule
father, I've told you guys this.
(laughing) Southwest makes it as easy as possible.
You have a boarding
ticket, one through 60.
Guess what, you get in line,
you've done that since kindergarten.
Yeah.
I'm number 16 every time,
because I was a traveler, right?
So one through 15 is
business travelers, you buy those.
You have to upgrade for those.
16 is always the person
that's probably traveled the most.
It's the next most frequent traveler.
So I knew my buddies, 16 through 20,
we travel all the time, right?
Those five of us, because
we're always put up front.
That's how Southwest used
to do it, now it's changing.
When you don't stand in your,
when you're 33 and you're
standing right next to me,
or in front of me, and I
don't, I didn't say anything,
because I don't like to pick that fight,
but I'm gonna stew on it in my own...
I'm gonna be mad at you.
I'm gonna be mad at the world.
It bothered me, so
that was the worst part
of traveling for me.
So now that you travel a little bit more,
I'll flip the script on
you, what is it for you?
Maybe outside of being away from family,
and maybe that's the best.
I, no, it's not.
I mean, I don't, because
I don't travel frequently,
I don't have those annoyances.
Like, I mean, when you are literally,
I mean, you are on two to
four airplanes every week,
and you had to line up two
to four times every week.
You saw it, I still only do it once a
quarter, so it's not...
Plus you fly different airlines.
Your company, you don't fly Southwest.
You don't give it a signed seat,
so it doesn't matter as much.
Yeah.
I think a lot of it for me is that...
As I get older, I get more
anxious about being on time,
and like, oh, okay, how
long am I gonna have to wait
for my Uber, is that
gonna make me late for this?
Is that, you know, so
just the logistics of it
are probably the worst part for me,
other than the family piece.
Now, I don't wanna sound uppity here,
but does your admin take
care of a lot of the logistics?
Does she or he make those
reservations and all that?
The reservations, but I
mean, the Ubers and...
Yeah, yeah.
Will be me.
See, that's different for you and I.
I never had an admin.
Because of that, I booked everything,
so I knew everything, start to finish,
but I always had a rental car, too.
I never Ubered, ever.
Unless I was downtown, that's not true.
We did it at downtown, but that's easy.
It's not hard, it's just,
okay, did I allow enough time
because your Uber takes, I don't know.
I waited the last trip I
had, I was like 30 minutes.
You know, one of the
differences for you, too,
that's a long time to wait for an Uber.
I waited, I had a colleague
and I, we waited for an Uber,
but we didn't land in
Memphis till like 2 a.m.,
flight was delayed,
and there was no Ubers,
it's like 2.30 a.m.
No, and if you get one, it's a weird one.
It was a weird one.
It was, we had to wait for it.
But the difference between you and me,
I was just thinking like,
mine were all very intimate,
I was the meeting, right?
I was going to meet a
client, there was 10 of us,
and I was the one leading the cut.
So everybody's
waiting on me to get there,
for the most part, right?
You are one of, a lot of times you're
going to a conference,
there's 30 of you, there's 300 of you,
there's 1,000 of you, so
you just don't wanna be
that last person walking in
the door with the spotlight.
Which I was the last time,
because my flight was delayed.
Well, I mean, not quite,
there were quite a few people
for my company on that flight.
That's a little bit different of a feel,
you know, it's like, gosh,
I don't wanna be that guy.
For me, if I was
late, it was like, sorry,
I'm gonna communicate, we're
behind, I had a flight delay.
Everybody's good.
Yeah.
But like, so it's just being on time,
the accommodations, all that,
you stay at nice places though.
Yeah, we do, yeah, the accommodations
are usually really nice.
You get to do some more of the,
you do have a little
more sexy travel than I did.
They're usually nicer places, right?
You get a Gaylord or a nice Marriott or
something like that.
So the best part of it is what,
I bet it's the same thing for both of us.
What's the best part
of the travel for you?
Honestly, it's the lack of,
I don't have to deal with,
I don't have to prep meals.
I love to cook, but I hate meal planning.
Yeah, I was gonna say eating,
because I always got, I mean, not always,
but generally there'd be at
least one or two good meals,
like with a client or
something like that,
so a nice steak dinner, good drinks,
all that kind of stuff, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's drawn out, you know?
Yeah, you do get the nice meal.
As long as it's good company.
I had a couple meals
where it was just so hard
to get people to talk.
Introvert, if I can't, if
you're not volleying back.
It's tough.
Oh man, it's the toughest.
So yeah, you get nice
dinners, no meal prep.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like that's the best.
And you got fancy ones,
but I'm not entertaining
clients or anything, so.
You still come to some
pretty nice places though.
I mean, like it's not Dairy Queen, right?
And I had my fair share of
Dairy Queens on the road.
Yeah, yeah.
You did, and you're like,
I'll never forget we were on
a family road trip one time,
and you're like, oh,
this particular burger
at Dairy Queen, it's really good.
It's one I always get
when I'm in a Dairy Queen.
You know, I mostly ate at QT's,
because I just, I'm not a
fast food kind of person.
I was telling someone just yesterday,
I'm eating at a Taco
Bell in probably 25 years.
I know.
Last time I ate there,
there was worms in it,
so I'm like, oh, that's enough for me.
Plus, I just don't like it.
And McDonald's, I
broke the seal on that one
with somebody along,
I hadn't eaten there.
You and I hadn't eaten
in McDonald's in 15 years.
Now we have kids, it's
more of a travel type thing.
Chick-fil-A's kind of a go-to.
But when I'm on the
road, none of it sounds good.
Every now and then I'll
break down, Panda Express,
maybe I hadn't had
Burger King for a long time,
then a Whopper sent it
really good to me out of nowhere.
(laughing) So I kind of broke that seal too.
But more than often, I
would just get beef jerky,
and a Gatorade, and some corn nuts.
And that would get me through the day,
until I got, then I'd Uber Eats or
DoorDash changed the deal
because now I can just order
anything to the hotel room.
Yes, yes, that is huge.
Game changer.
Yeah.
I do feel like, I don't
know if I'm proud of the fact
that our children have had
very, very little fast food,
comparatively speaking,
or if I'm embarrassed,
because our kids will
hang out with friends
and they'll be like, "Hey,
do you want In-N-Out Burger,
"Water Burger?"
My kids are like, "I
don't know, I've never eaten."
People would be like, "Canes?"
I don't know, only one
of our kids has had canes.
Yeah, out of five
people, one of us has had canes
in our family, and
that's a big deal down here.
Same with Water Burger,
I've never had Water Burger.
Never had it.
When we lived in
Chicago, we never had Castle.
White Castle. White Castle.
I had White Castle as a kid, once.
I've never had it.
I was with a friend and her family
ordered White Castle
and I was like, "This is the
worst thing I've ever had."
It was awful.
Anyway, I probably just made
a whole bunch of Chicagoans
really upset, but I'm
making fun of White Castle.
But our kids are like,
"Yeah, I've never had."
You pick it.
If it's outside of, I
don't think our kids
have ever had Burger King.
Yeah.
Once I remember taking
them to a Burger King,
in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Okay, so they've had Burger King once,
they've had McDonald's,
Chick-fil-A, Dairy Queen.
Jersey Mikes.
And Jersey Mikes, but are
sandwich places truly fast food?
Yeah, I would say they are.
They're the most healthy feeling one.
That's why we go to Jersey Mikes so much.
Chick-fil-A even, I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah, we might be giving them a
disservice to some degree.
It's like with alcohol, right?
Like what we're
trying to do with our kids.
It's like, sure, you can
sit and minor, just taste.
Because we don't want it to
be this big, scary secret.
That's like, "Oh," and it's time to,
when they finally rip that band-aid off,
they do it in a way that's unhealthy.
It's like, if you are
aware of it, you're around it,
you've tasted it
before, it's no big deal.
You just ease your way into it.
Maybe we've done it the
wrong way with fast food.
Our kids are gonna, obesity scales.
Just off the charts.
Yeah, off the charts.
Yeah, body fat ratios, I mean, 50%.
Right.
They're like, "This
water burger is incredible."
They're like, "I
wanna be on Super Size B."
You could eat seven in a row.
Really starts bringing out the flavor.
So nasty.
I mean, part of it is you and I,
I, it physically hurts my stomach
most of the time to eat fast food.
My digestive system, team up.
I was just gonna make the joke,
hence the 98 cases of toilet paper.
(laughing) Just to bring that one back around.
Exactly.
Poop it back around.
Well.
Did you just say, "Poop it back around?"
No, that would've been funny though.
Just one of those little things.
Yeah, I was like, "Wait,
did I hear that right?"
Yeah, you're doing.
Did you say, "Meow?"
Meow.
Yeah, that's funny.
I was telling you, so
switching gears here,
we all try to stay in
shape as we get older, right?
Everybody tries to
find whatever they can do,
jogging or whatnot.
So I've had this, and you know it,
I've been joking around the house.
Are we joking or are you partly serious?
Well, I'm serious for the most part,
but I am kind of
joking, maybe feeling it out.
But our daughter, I almost said our
middle daughter again,
I'm trying to get away from her.
She's our only daughter.
She's our only one.
She is our middle child.
She's a track, she's a track club runner.
Track star seems to be, it
seems to want to come out.
It seems a little--
She's a track star.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Those two words just go together.
A little
megalomaniac, but it's all right.
She's a track club runner.
That's a good, yeah.
She's a track runner.
She runs track is what it is.
And I ran track when I was younger,
and I used to think I was fast.
I was fast back in the day, who knows.
Long story short, at these meets,
there's some all comers, right?
So they actually have
open, after all the kids
and the fast athletes, the true athletes,
then they have some
of the older guys run.
And I'm like, man, I
might want to do that
just for the fun of it, but
I don't want to hurt myself.
I don't want to make fun.
I don't want to embarrass myself either.
In front of my family
or anything and whatnot,
because I don't know,
I've just enjoyed that.
And I could bring this up.
This could be a next topic we
could talk about real quick.
Difference between guys and girls maybe.
But long story short,
I'm thinking about running
some track and sprints as well.
So our daughter and I were at the track.
We went to a track on Saturday or Sunday,
I don't remember what it was,
and ran and did some sprints.
I kind of did her workout with her.
And I am sore today.
I mean, the different muscles you use
when you're sprinting,
and I probably only got to 80%.
It felt like 100%, but I
know it was only like 80%.
80%, and I am sore.
Yeah, interesting.
It's like when I used to play basketball.
If I hadn't played
basketball a long time,
different muscles.
So sore.
So sore.
And you jog, you run
like longer distance,
what, four or five times a week?
Yeah, five times a week.
Yeah, five times a week.
And like, so your body is
used to running, sprinting.
Yeah, and it's not even running.
It's jogging.
I mean, literally, you
could fast walk faster
than my jog probably.
I'm sure, I often
think, I wonder if people,
because people that know me on the loop,
if they ever see like, you
know how you used to look out
in the front, and you'd know the joggers.
So I'm sure there's people
like that in that neighborhood.
Like, oh, here's that guy again.
They probably just make fun of me
because I'm jogging so slow.
I don't know.
I don't usually make fun
of the joggers that are,
even if they are running slow,
because I was like, you know what?
Good for them.
Like they're out doing something.
Yeah, I guess I don't
make fun of people either,
but I can make fun of myself.
You can.
Knowing how slow I am going.
Like my watch tells me in my mile times.
I'm like, wow.
Wow, that used to be a lot faster.
Burning it up here, apparently, Shawn.
It's all right.
You're keeping your
heart rate in the right zone.
Yeah, yeah.
It's that burning zone.
I don't even know if I'm doing that.
But I might, there's an
all comers meet coming up
in the next month, I think.
Yeah.
So I might run the 100 yard dash in that.
We'll see.
Which will be good,
because it'll show the kids,
because our family, just
like everybody's family on here,
I'm sure.
We all want to win, right?
We have high expectations
and all this kind of stuff.
And everybody gets upset
when they don't win and whatnot.
And our kids have been lucky and blessed
that they've been at the top
of some of their respective
things, they like to win a
lot, they like to be the best.
But it's okay if you're not,
we teach them all the time.
And this might be a
really good opportunity
for me to teach them, like,
hey look, I want to win too.
But I might lose a race against,
because you race against
guys that are 65 down to 35.
Or even younger, 25.
25, yeah.
So I'm going to get
smoked by somebody out there.
And I might hopefully
be the 65 year olds.
But they'll be able to
see, I'm a competitive guy,
I like to win, I like to work hard on it.
But I'm also going to
be okay when I don't win.
And they need to see that,
because that's part of life.
Always going to win, unfortunately.
Right, it is true.
It's true.
Honestly, had she been
in track and whatever,
even up until before I hurt my knee,
I would have been like, I
might want to try it too.
Like, I would, you know?
I'm not there yet.
I got to a slow jog yesterday, but.
I was going to break it up,
you brought it up before me,
because I was going to
make the joke that you were,
I always bring the best jokes,
everybody's ready for it.
But I was like, you can't sprint now
because of your need,
but what you can do after yesterday's PT,
is maybe join the World
Aerobic Championships.
I can, I can.
Do you remember those people like kicking
and dancing and leotards?
I have enough headbands or
leotards for that matter.
Lot of spandex.
Lot of spandex.
Lot of lycra.
I don't have any spandex.
Oh darn, I guess I can't
be the next Jane Fonda.
That's a good quick
update though for you.
PT, you're doing.
I did ladders.
And then.
On the ground, you're not
climbing ladders, correct?
No, not yet, no.
Not everybody might
know what a ladder is.
Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, the
ladder on the ground where, yeah.
You like doing high knees
into each square kind of?
Yeah, not really high, high knees,
but just even little, little taps.
It's like stepping
through a hopscotch thing.
It's like a hopscotch
thing, that's exactly right.
And what did our
oldest call the other one?
He's like, oh, those are typewriters.
I didn't know that was the name for it.
Anyway, that wasn't
more of a lateral thing.
I never heard that name for it either.
Yeah, neither.
That's awesome, yeah,
and you actually jogged
a little bit, I believe.
I did.
That's huge.
So, note to self, PT's
kicking up a little bit,
so I can't wear business casual.
To PT.
I was sweating through my nicer shirt
that I was wearing yesterday for work.
I was like, oh, this is--
It's good turning up a notch.
This is classy.
Yeah.
Rocky Balboa, Eye of the Tiger.
Yeah, yeah.
Good for you.
But I don't wanna gloss over
what you were saying though.
I was telling our daughter
when we were at the track
that mom was fast too.
We were just talking about
genetics and stuff like that,
right, because she was
talking about some of the mechanics
and how she has a natural
mechanic to turn a foot in
because their club is the real deal.
They video them, they
actually work on their mechanics
of running, all that.
It's very interesting to hear.
So she recorded me and
was walking me through mine.
So we were talking about
genetics and mechanics.
And I was telling her
that when we used to run
in the little
cul-de-sac, we'd do sprints,
done that little cul-de-sac.
I was like, mom was fast off the line.
I was like, all right, now I'm never--
I was like, I remember I'd
had to catch mom off the line.
Not that I was going
100% or anything like that,
but you were quick and
you've always said you were fast.
So I haven't seen the
ladies out there, though.
And that's a great segue to the next one,
but I haven't seen any ladies out there
running any of these opens.
You could be first place every time.
Could be.
I don't have to tell people that I was
the only one doing it.
Do you think they'd
give you a medal for that?
You don't know how many medals you'd
probably accumulate.
I could rack up the medals.
Right now you could run--
It was like for vanity.
I could do it now.
You could run a 30 second 100 yard dash
and get first place medal.
Do you think I could
even do it in 30 seconds?
I'd be longer than that.
I'd be scared that you'd
hurt yourself right now.
I'm pretty sure my
surgeon would not support this.
That's hilarious.
He did say still like,
I'll fully clear you.
I still have one more appointment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, but honestly up until probably,
yeah, six months ago,
I would have considered doing it.
But who knows?
Would you really?
You would have got out in
front of all those people.
We've been to track meets now.
All those people, all those
parents, in front of your kids.
Yeah, because I realized--
Put on spikes and ran.
What I realized is that
nobody's really watching
unless their kid is competing.
Unless they hear all
the old guys are going.
Well, then you were glued to--
well, I'm going to use your
words, not mine, the old guys.
You were like, oh, I want to see.
I want to see the--
I was scouting out the competition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was funny as I was
helping people get checked in.
And there was a guy.
And I was like, nice.
Round your age, plus or
minus three years, right?
I have no idea.
And that man was serious.
Like he had on--
it was not the hot suit.
But I mean, like he
was wearing a sweatshirt.
I think I mentioned
that in our last podcast.
It was 100 degrees outside.
It was so hot.
He's like in a sweatshirt.
Game day attire.
He was locked in.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And he got smoked.
Yeah.
We actually watched him because I was
like, I really want to see--
because he was in shape.
He was in shape.
I actually saw the guy.
He ran the 400, though.
He didn't run anything but the 400.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a tough race.
That's a tough race.
But that was a great segue into what I
was going to say earlier.
And I know we're already
getting short on time here.
But the difference
between men and women, for me--
I've talked about it a
little bit on this podcast--
is guys that are athletic and
competitive at a high level,
even in high school, but in the college
and even beyond that--
we know people that have--
that is all your life.
Yep.
Right?
And even after you're done with college
or even if you're done
with professional sports,
it's still your life to some degree
because you're going to be
playing in some rec league--
semi-professional league or
rec league or pickup games
or something like that--
till you get to a point
where you cannot play anymore.
And my back was that for me with
basketball in my early 30s--
back spasms where I just--
it wasn't worth it anymore.
But what I lost, not
only was the game I loved,
which was that any free
time I had, I played basketball
for a long time, not
when I was really older.
But what you really lose
is the competitiveness.
Like for guys,
getting that aggression out,
laying into somebody, yelling still,
getting that emotion
and aggression out--
that's a huge part of
our lives that now for me,
really going on 15 years, you got to find
another place to get that out.
And it's hard.
You almost can't find a place other than
the refs in your kids
at your kids' games.
I think that's why some guys are so over
the top, even me included in that.
Do women have that?
Is there anything in you
that's like, I needed--
I don't have that outlet anymore.
Or did you ever need that outlet?
I don't know that I
ever needed that outlet.
I may not represent--
I know I don't represent all women.
But I am competitive.
I love to win, even if a board game.
But there was never a time when I'm like,
I've got to get this aggression out.
Running did help that for me.
That was enough, just
getting time and space.
But that's not about aggression.
I need space to just do
nothing but listen to music
and not have people bother
me for 30 minutes and sweat.
So maybe that's the
closest thing that I have to it.
But no, I mean, I
think that it is different.
I think that's how that guy was, though.
Obviously, he stayed in
shape, which is great.
But he needed that competitive angst,
that competitive edge.
He needs that just to survive.
If he's close to my age, he's
still that serious about it.
Now, don't get me wrong.
If I'm going to run in a sprint or
something like that,
I might put my headphones on while I'm
warming up a little bit,
just to get my head space right, to get
locked in a little bit.
I don't know.
To me, that's always just a
box that can't be checked,
unless I were to go down to the gym and
play and pick up basketball games,
which I did.
It was great.
It was incredible to get it
out, hitting people in the air,
getting knocked over,
getting mad and stuff like that.
That was great.
Now, again, can my body handle that?
That's the biggest question.
So where do people--
I wonder where other people do that.
Where do you displace that?
Or does it just go away?
Does your testosterone levels fall enough
as you get older that it's like,
I don't need that?
And I'm talking about
sports right now, or competitive.
We have to have a doctor
tell us if that's the case,
and people get less competitive.
I don't know.
I bet there are women that
play sports at a high level.
For sure.
It's different than maybe
your experience has been,
that they don't know where to get that
competitive edge anymore.
I'm sure that's the case.
Monopoly or trivial
pursuit won't check the box.
Won't check the box.
Yeah.
I think that's true.
And I don't know that it does go away.
I'll never forget my
uncle playing football.
He played football at a high level.
And just playing in the
front yard with the cousins.
And he threw a ball, and it nailed my
six-year-old brother
at the time in the face.
And he got mad at my
brother for not catching it.
And you're like, you're a grown man.
And he's six.
You just rifled a ball at his face.
It's not his fault he didn't catch it.
Yeah, settle down, Tiger.
Yeah.
I was like, whoa.
You should probably bring that
competitiveness down.
I'm sure there's personality.
There's a lot of things into that.
But I just know that's
the thing that for me--
and I don't know.
I think a lot of men
are like that, honestly.
There's no way to get that out anymore.
Yeah.
Especially if you
competed at a high level.
Yeah.
I mean--
Like you have.
Even people that just
played in high school--
I don't mean to say just high school.
I mean, a lot of people
take that very serious,
even though they don't go
to another level above that.
But they may play rec
leagues for a long time after that.
Just getting that out.
And then at some point--
some people continue to
play, for whatever reason.
I never did because of
my back and basketball.
And then I never picked
anything else up to replace that.
And maybe that was my fault. Other people
may pick something else up.
They're like, golf.
You know?
Right.
Golf.
It's not as competitive.
It's not like a contact sport.
You're not yelling.
Right.
Not that I yell.
I don't need to yell.
But you know what I mean?
But it's that ah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
The gritting of the tee type thing.
The celebrations.
Just those bursts of emotion.
Yeah.
Well, anyways, we're getting
close here already on time.
You'll be leaving
tomorrow for a couple of days.
Two-nighters.
I hate two-nighters.
Those are too long.
Two-nighters are tough.
Yeah.
You'll miss the first part of a track
meet, unfortunately.
I will.
I haven't missed one of those.
I don't think I've missed one of those.
They're all pretty new for right now.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
You'll miss some soccer practices.
Oh, darn.
Which I'm sure you'll be sad about.
I miss those.
Every night of the week.
Every night, yeah.
An hour away.
Maybe there'll be some thunderstorms.
We'll get some things
canceled, except for the track meet.
Except the track meet.
Which should be fun.
Yeah.
The rest of the week will fly by, I know.
Yeah.
And so--
Get back for the weekend.
Maybe hopefully some pool
time this weekend again.
I don't know.
It's supposed to rain quite a bit.
But it's always nice when we
get an hour or two pool time.
It does.
It's good for the soul.
It's great for the soul.
Yeah.
How nice was that to have
the National Cup playoffs
or whatever it was?
Barcelona, Portugal
game going while we're
floating in the pools.
It was really fun.
Yeah.
There wasn't so much
hatred for the certain Portugal
player on our family.
We are not Ronaldo fans.
Not Ronaldo fans here.
Not Ronaldo fans.
Anyway.
Although I can respect what he's done.
Although the kids can't yet.
They're totally like--
they're all messy here, which is true.
He is the goat.
But I'll give him this due.
Yeah, exactly.
The other guy.
The other guy.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's close this guy out.
Think about what word it was
that sums up our last week.
Then we'll say that.
All right.
I think I know mine.
Do you know yours?
I got mine.
All right.
Mine's got a hyphen again.
Hope that's--
OK.
Let me check.
Will you allow that?
OK.
We're good with that.
All right.
One, two, three.
Tick tock.
Tick tock.
Oh, counting down.
Well, it's a little bit--
you go first time.
We always go into mine.
Normalcy.
You feel like things have
gotten a little bit of normalcy?
Yeah.
I mean, it's been crazy busy.
We keep talking about all these
appointments that we had.
But it's been very normal
over the last week, I feel like.
Yeah.
Until you throw us into chaos tomorrow.
But thanks.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mom.
That's good.
Normalcy, any time.
You get a little bit of normalcy is good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You?
Mine was tick tock, meaning two meetings.
There's a lot coming up
that we got to prepare for.
So the countdown's on for that.
Tick tock, tick tock.
And summer is tick tocking away.
Oh, don't say that.
I know.
Well, no, we're just
making progress into it
and enjoying it.
Just sands of time.
Tick tock.
Either way, slow it
down, but hurry it up.
Yeah.
Hurry up and wait.
Tick tock.
The sands of time.
Golly.
Yeah, I know.
It's actually really sad.
Gosh, I didn't mean to
be a downer on that one.
But no, it is exciting.
Because, I mean, tick tock.
We got a lot to do.
Tick tock is some
exciting stuff coming up.
Such exciting stuff coming up.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
So.
It'll be good.
Well, safe travels.
We'll see you back here soon.
Hopefully, we'll get another
one of these on this weekend.
These weekday morning ones.
They're fun.
Yeah, they're not bad.
That's a great way to start the day.
I like starting the day with 30,
40-minute chat with you.
Next week, we'll talk
about who's a morning person
and who's not.
[LAUGHTER]
Hopefully, you can't
tell by this episode.
We've both faked it pretty well.
Although, my mom tells me
I look tired all the time.
Like, no, mom, I'm not tired.
That's just how I look now.
I think I'm just getting old.
Is that a compliment?
Did I look tired?
No.
I couldn't think so.
Not in any way, shape, or form.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, I was like, no, I
just edited that whole one.
It was a couple of episodes ago.
I was like, no, I
don't think I was tired.
That's just what I look like now.
Ouch.
Yeah.
Yeah, I need to find a new regime.
I need to do more sprints.
That's what it is.
Body fat down.
There you go.
Yeah.
Suck in that--
Me too.
I need to suck in that
face skin a little bit.
All right, let these good women and
gentlemen go, oh, yeah,
low taper face.
Whatever our kids do.
Ewing.
Ewing.
Ridiculous.
Can't wait till this phase is over.
He's going to look back and
be like, what was I thinking?
That was not cool, actually.
And we will actually
laugh at it at that point.
Just like we do now.
Exactly.
Not making fun of him, just enjoying it.
He was doing it.
Yeah, it was amazing.
That's right.
All right, well, this
phase of Mr. and Mrs. is over.
It's over.
Thanks for joining us, everybody.
Have a great week.
Have a great day.
Bye.
Oh, I got to say, see ya.
I would say, see ya.
See ya.