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I'm Brian Bashore, Professional walleye angler and owner of The Walleye Guys Guide service. I am here to reel you in with captivating stories, expert tips, and interviews with some of the biggest names in the fishing community. So, sit back, relax, and let the drag scream!
Brian Bashore (00:01.58)
Hey, welcome back folks to another episode of Real Talk Fishing with No Limits. Today we're going to dive in deep on the technical side of lithium batteries. We've got Kyle from North coming on. Got to tell us all about North lithium batteries. Tell you a little bit about the ones in my boat and why I like them. But if you've got questions or you're just wondering about this whole lithium craze and why everybody's kind of switching, it's pretty much the thing. It's coming in, the new boats are showing up with the lithium batteries in it. You why the big change? Ice season's coming up.
lithium batteries for your eye shuttles and stuff is phenomenal pretty much about all anybody really uses nowadays and if you haven't you've got questions tune in you're gonna get your answers right here as we talked to Kyle from Norsk lithium we break down the ins and outs of lithium batteries
Brian Bashore (00:01.66)
Hey folks, thanks for tuning into another episode of real talk fishing with no limits today. We're going to get a little technical with things and dive in deep with Kyle from Norse lithium batteries and just having break it down. All the stuff that I can't explain because I'm just not that battery nerdy, I guess. So we've got to listen to the man himself. Kyle with Norse. What's what's going on over there, Kyle? What's new in the lithium world?
Kyle Koisti (00:28.376)
Well, to be honest with you right now, we're in that weird transition period. So we're in Minnesota. There's still time to get the boat out, but I feel like those days are fleeting. Everybody's looking forward to ice at this point. So getting gear prepped, making sure everything's ready to go. And one of the number one things that can fail you is that battery. So I'm trying to correct that.
Brian Bashore (00:51.764)
Yes, yes you are. And you have come up with the solutions and it is ice. It's, uh, the Senate forecast. I saw some negatives, think. So I was supposed to do some, some videos here and I was like, we got this week guys. I'm like, other than that, the boats put away, I'm not going out and you know, highs of twenties and the lows and the negatives. That's not good for, for anything. Um, but it's yeah, by the time this airs, we, may have ice in Minnesota. I see some of your, river obviously flows for a little while over here in South Dakota yet, but.
It's coming and it's coming quick. think the, the Thanksgiving ice time that a lot of guys try to shoot for, they might hit it.
Kyle Koisti (01:30.382)
It's possible, especially in that northern area. So in the Twin Cities here, I don't think I'm close, but I'm OK with it. The Mississippi River's still open, and I feel like there's walleye to be set in the hook on still. So I'm OK with it.
Brian Bashore (01:45.49)
There is, I'm going to be out the next couple of days out here. Stay custom walleye. but yeah, that's, that's probably it. think after this weekend we're done. And from the looks of it, I was just at the Dakota Angler ice Institute a couple of weekends ago, everybody's ready for a little ice place. Had a really good crowd. think Todd said it was a record number. and they were buying, but I got asked so many questions in that North booth, not just about the ice gear.
Kyle Koisti (01:53.806)
You
Brian Bashore (02:11.678)
But about the open water, you know, the Marine battery stuff, everybody's looking to switch to this stuff come spring. And that's what we want to talk about, obviously, as well as the ice gear. but let's get into the lithium. I was on the fence for a long time with lithium. wanted, I sat around here and all the horror stories of these garages burning down from people leaving their, you know, boats plugged in all winter or whatever the case it was. And I was like, like anything new, right? There's always some growing pains and just a little bit of the evolution of the, of the product.
So I kind of sat back on the fish and watch brands and there's more and more of them kind of popping up. And then a couple of years ago, I was like, all right, it's these things are legit. No more horror stories. There's a ton of brand. mean, the new boats are coming with lithiums in them nowadays. So this, this must be great. And I made the jump over to North, you know, a couple of years ago now and couldn't be happier. It is, it's no bull. This stuff is legit. You want to talk about some runtime and not having to worry about things all day on the water and how fast they charge. It's.
You know, now I'm kind of kicking myself like, I could have did this years ago. you're seeing guys get rid of their kicker motors because they can just run their trolling motor at three. Some, you know, the trolling motors have come a long way as we got brushless, you know, and I can pull my ZV 21 over, you know, three and a half, 3.7 miles an hour. And you could theoretically do that all day long. So you don't necessarily need a kicker motor anymore. Nothing wrong with having a kicker motor, but you know,
The live scoping and the power pole, the drift paddles, just makes little sense. let's talk. So you're guys in Minnesota. did Norse come about?
Kyle Koisti (03:46.68)
Let's see. So I believe at this point is about seven or eight years ago, it was started in North Dakota. And at that point, there was a guy named Derek, he had created it. And we had kind of joined forces roughly about that 2021 time period when Derek approached In-Depth Outdoors. And so we kind of brought that on and we're running those for IDEO.
And then it kind of grew from there. As we created more technology, the business grew and we actually ended up being purchased by Seafoam.
So Seafoam here is in Chaska, Minnesota. They are technically our parent company. And so once they brought on, it gave us the ability to really start pursuing more and more features, getting more inventory, doing things that we just couldn't do when we started out with. The lightweight feature of lithium is one of the biggest things, and that's kind of where it started. But...
There's more to be, there's more needed out of these things. It's not just okay to have a lightweight battery. You need more from them. You need the ability to know what your runtime is. How long can you run throughout the day? If you have accessories, you know what? I'm always running my cell phone dry. I need to plug that in and charge one out on the ice. All of these needs is why we kept evolving.
When we were making that TV show, there's no way if something didn't hold up, we weren't gonna run it. So plain and simple, we wanted a way to correct and add more to what was out there. And that's kind of the route we went on the north side of things, developing things as we went.
Kyle Koisti (05:43.927)
So here's one question I for you, Brian. And I've heard this from a few different guys, but that switch to lithium. People have told me the hardest part about switching my boat over to lithium is lifting out those old heavy lead acid batteries.
Brian Bashore (06:00.34)
Yeah, for sure. For sure. You're talking about lightweight. I think my boat runs. I mean, that's a lot of weight when you got, you know, at least three just for your trolling motor. And now you have marine batteries out there and what have you. And then bringing it down to one or two or even you swap three lead for three lithium. I don't know what the difference is, but it's a few hundred pounds. 50. Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (06:13.571)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (06:19.35)
roughly about 50 pounds a piece. So if you were running 12 volt Norx and you took out say like a Group 31 Odyssey or a Group 31 Lead, I mean those are easily 75 to 80 pounds a piece. People will ask, how much weight savings can I see? And I kind of joke with them, but to be honest with you,
It would be the rough equivalent of like me pushing you out of my boat. That's how much weight you would save. You could push your buddy out of the boat and yeah, you're saving 150, 200 pounds easy. So, yeah.
Brian Bashore (06:55.922)
Yeah. Yeah. You can, you'd be at, I'm a good 200 pound battery. you're going to, you're going to definitely push me out. It is a, yeah, it's huge. I mean, obviously it was tournament anglers and just everybody in general, we like to go fast. So lighter weight means we can go little faster and these new boats come with a massive fuel tank. So we have that weight for those rough water days, but you know, it's balanced so we can get rid of some of the battery weight and other weight. Now, if we would all.
Kyle Koisti (07:01.72)
Here you go.
Kyle Koisti (07:09.558)
Yes.
Brian Bashore (07:21.012)
be a little smart, not carry around the entire garage full of tackle. We could probably go faster yet, but it's a walleye guy's addiction.
Kyle Koisti (07:28.366)
It's funny you say that. I have one buddy that he's never fished out of my boat because of the fact of his boat has become his tackle box. And he can't not fish in it because that's where all of his gear is.
Brian Bashore (07:43.346)
Yeah, we never know what to pack when we go with somebody else. So if I go, it's, it's a, yeah, it's a, it's a jig bite. I'm like, all right, I'm just bringing two jig rods and a box of jigs. And that's it. Which is honestly all I really ever need anywhere anyway. So it's pretty simple. What, so like I said, the ice angular, the ice show was, was, was packed. We moved a lot of the ice batteries. you know, this is, we'll get this thing out here next week, right before black Friday, we got a bunch. Norris has got a.
Kyle Koisti (07:46.69)
Bring the kitchen sink.
Kyle Koisti (07:56.194)
Yeah. Yep.
Kyle Koisti (08:07.096)
Yes.
Brian Bashore (08:12.358)
A ton of great deals. What kind of deals you got going on? What are we looking at? What do guys need to be thinking about for their ice fishing setups?
Kyle Koisti (08:19.348)
Sure, when it comes to ice, really what you want to think of is longevity and runtime. That's really what it comes down to. So for instance, we have two versions of our portable sonar batteries. We have the green batteries, which are 12.8 volt nominal, great for underwater cameras, mechanical flashers, that sort of thing.
But we did develop a 14.8 volt lineup, and those are our orange batteries. Those are the ones that have the higher voltage, have the longer run time.
are meant for the digital screens and live scope and all those live imaging options out there. It's amazing to me, you bring up Dakota Angler and someone asked me a couple years ago when I was there, he walked up and he goes, hey, I'm gonna use my head unit from my boat. How long will your battery run it? I go, how big's the screen? And I'm not kidding, he looked at me and he goes, 15 inches. I'm like, do you really wanna bring a 15 inch screen out on the ice? mean.
You know, that's significant. You know, I kind of joked at that point, to be honest with you, I don't think the weight of your shuttle is really gonna matter with the battery at that point. Probably got 25 pounds under the shuttle at that point. But yeah, that higher voltage, one of the big things is people don't realize when you have a higher voltage, those orange batteries have a top end of 16.8 volts. When you have 16 volts versus 12,
Brian Bashore (09:27.188)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (09:44.61)
you're looking at roughly about 20 to 30 % longer runtime just based off that higher voltage being more efficient and kind of I think of it as sipping power rather than gulping it. And so when someone is trying to figure out, know, hey, what do I need? What's the best battery for me? It's really going to be how big is your screen? How long do you want to go for?
So for instance, if someone were, hey, I got a 10 inch screen and I want to fish, I want to fish with live imaging. Okay.
The first thing I'd ask is, do you have the ability to charge at the end of the day, or do you want to go multiple days on a single charge? And if someone is off grid or something to that nature, that 50 amp really shines because of the fact of you can easily go multiple days on a single charge with that battery. 50 amps is pretty significant. So.
depending on what you're running for a screen and that sort of thing. I know a very common one is a 93SV Garmin with LVS32 transducer. We have something called the Guardian app and those orange batteries have Bluetooth connectivity so they can connect to that app. There you go. So yeah, at any point in time you can see what is your draw? What is the estimated runtime?
all of that sort of thing. So I asked one of my pro staff guys last year, he was running 93 SV LBS 30 32 transducer. He showed me a screenshot. He was drawing 1.19 amps per hour. So, you know, that's roughly a 20 amp hour battery. You know, you're going to be roughly like 16 hours of runtime. I mean, you're you're good. And as you grow up in a higher screen, you know, you're to be out on the ice longer.
Kyle Koisti (11:38.988)
There's no doubt in my mind that some of these setups you can get easily 20 to 30 hours on a single charge. a hardcore guy, a 15 hour day is pretty rough. And if you're going to do two of those back to back and the battery can do it, more power to you. But I'll be the first one to admit, I don't know if I'm hardcore enough to go 15 hour days back to back like that.
Brian Bashore (11:52.5)
Thank
Brian Bashore (12:02.356)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (12:05.262)
You're gonna have to really make sure you're dressed warm and man that better be a good bite because that might be rough. Yes, absolutely. Yep. So yeah, that would be the biggest thing is kind of considering what you need and what you're using. And one of the cool, yeah. Yep.
Brian Bashore (12:10.9)
That's sleeper shack stuff for guys that just don't go to work.
Brian Bashore (12:24.82)
That's kind of what came up at the ice show. me. The, was all right. 30 or the 50 over the top top. That's it. That's what people wanted. You run out of a live scope, nine inch screen out all day. I'm going to charge it every night. 30 amp. Good to go. You know, just like you said, well, we're going somewhere. I don't know. Maybe kind of remote. I remote, no matter what, get to 50 amp. Um, or they had a lot of, want to put it in their, their flip over or even in their, in their shack something, but they didn't want their generators to run to charge things. And they wanted to.
Kyle Koisti (12:31.17)
Great.
Kyle Koisti (12:37.688)
Yup, yup.
Kyle Koisti (12:46.274)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (12:54.398)
charge their phone, you know, all this other stuff. And you have the USB and USC ports on the, on those orange batteries as well. Like, then you obviously get the 50. You can charge the other stuff. You're going to be good to go.
Kyle Koisti (12:57.699)
Ciao.
Kyle Koisti (13:02.797)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (13:07.838)
Absolutely. Yeah, it's always going to be a really versatile thing and you never realize how many things you need to charge. At any given time, it's like, I will have either my phone or maybe I have a rechargeable headlamp or they have the rechargeable hand warmers or I'm running a GoPro. All these different things that to this, I don't know about you, but there's nothing worse than cold weather and having to replace a GoPro battery in the back of that thing.
Brian Bashore (13:36.478)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (13:37.556)
I have dropped batteries out of the tree stand because I'll use a GoPro while bow hunting. There's nothing worse. It's going to fall in leaves. It's going to fall in snow. I just hard wire all that stuff now to a Norsk. And then that way, I don't have to worry about it because there's no way that I'm going to sit in that tree or on the ice long enough to drain that battery down for that GoPro. It's not possible. I wouldn't have enough time.
Brian Bashore (14:01.682)
Yeah, those things do, they do suck some battery that the GoPro battery anyway. Yeah, that, yeah. And it's so tiny in this little flap of paper to try to reach in there. And if you've got gloves, auto, it does, it ain't happening.
Kyle Koisti (14:06.754)
Yes.
Kyle Koisti (14:16.12)
gloves. mean even if you got you got big fingers like I have I have no hope man like that's that's how you end up with a cracked screen on the front once you're done.
Brian Bashore (14:19.752)
No, you're packing cigarettes to get the thing. You're shaking it to knock it out of there is what you're doing. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (14:29.18)
Yep, yep, exactly. So you just posted a video out there on the cheap lithium versus the north lithium. What's the evolution of the lithium? Where does it come? All the technology. What are you doing that's different than the other batteries?
Kyle Koisti (14:45.292)
Yeah, so one of the things that there were always asked for in the video you had mentioned was, okay, well, could go through Amazon and I could find a lithium battery and pick one and say it's a third of the price. Okay, well, we're not comparing apples to apples at this point. So if you were to take a, I'll call it a bargain, a bargain battery, a cheaper bargain battery, if you were to open up that case, inside you will realize that it's a lot of lithium
and then essentially wrapped in shipping tape to keep them together as a single unit. You'll have your internal components, wiring and whatnot, taped onto the side of that. The difference that we do is we have an internal battery racking system. So because of that fact, you have two pieces. They hold your cells across. And when you sandwich them together,
you set up a situation where there is efficient airflow in between all of the cells. They're in there very nice and tight. There's no wiggle room. If you were to grab one of our batteries and you shake it, nothing, you will hear no sound, nothing. Because not only do we have that internal battery racking system, we also have them potted, which means essentially once you put it in there, you have a resin that goes in there.
So then that battery rack can't move within your case.
What that does for us is we know our connections are going to stay good, our internal cells are going to be protected. We know that our BMS does not have the ability to slosh around and move. Everything is in there nice and tight. And the biggest thing for that is durability, because some of these, whether you're riding in a snowmobile, whether you have your unit in the back of the shack being towed,
Kyle Koisti (16:47.374)
I'll tell you one thing, the use itself, I don't think you get a lot of like beat down on really, you know, because you're picking it up and setting it from hole to hole. It's that ride out there and that ride back in where everything's bouncing around. Ice is pretty unforgiving when it comes to terrain. you know what, sometimes, especially if you're a guy that has an older snowmobile, the suspensions back in the day, not as good. So.
Brian Bashore (17:03.944)
Yup.
Brian Bashore (17:15.464)
That's so good.
Kyle Koisti (17:16.672)
So yeah, there's a lot of jarring with that stuff. And then if we're talking about our orange, so that internal battery racking system is on the entire lineup. That's on both the green 12.8 and the orange 14.8 volt batteries. Once you jump into those orange batteries, a few of the additional things that we'll have on there is like you had mentioned, we have a USB-A and a USB-C port. Those are waterproof. So if...
You get water on top of the battery, it sloshes around, it gets dropped. Nothing to worry about. know, if if something makes it in there, turn it upside down, shake it out. You're good to go. You're not going to have any issues. Additionally, we have what we call our one touch power management button. You have a button on there and it has four LED lights. A quick press. It will it will tell you of those four lights how much battery capacity you have. The other thing that that
that button will do is we have something we call deep sleep. And if you guys are familiar with live imaging, one of the things a Garmin Black, a Garmin Black Box, it is always drawing power, whether you are using it or not. So you can charge up your battery, put it into storage. And when you pull it back out, you realize that you've lost some battery capacity. And what that is, is it's what we call phantom draw. It's drawing when you're not using it.
and we developed something called Deep Sleep. So normally, as a battery would sit on a shelf, it would, over time, deplete based on millivolts, right? The difference is when you put it in Deep Sleep, that drawdown is actually what we call microvolts, or one millionth of a volt. So what you can do is you can use either the app or the battery itself, and you can put... There you go.
Brian Bashore (19:07.912)
Try to get it to, there you go.
Kyle Koisti (19:10.606)
Yep, manage deep sleep so you can put your batteries into deep sleep and what it'll do is it'll cut power to the terminals. So then that way there's no way for it to draw regardless of what it is connected to.
So in that deep sleep state, if you were to look on the Guardian app, it's going to show you like a moon and a couple of Z's showing that it's sleeping. It will still give you what your charge percentage is. So if you charge it all the way up, say it's at 100%, but for voltage and whatnot, it will show that it's sleeping. And when you want to use it again, you can press that button or you can wake it in the app and boom, you're going to make those terminals live again.
One thing that I have done, but I don't suggest, obviously don't do this. But I told one of the guys in the office, you know, hey, how much do you trust deep sleep? And he goes, yeah, it's going to cut power to the terminals. All right, let's test it. I put a battery in deep sleep and then I took a ratchet extension, put it right on there between the positive and negative. Guess what? They were dead. There was nothing there. It legitimately cuts the power to the terminals.
This is a disclaimer. Please don't do that. Please don't reach out with messages and emails and phone calls saying, well, Kyle said you could do this. Don't please don't do that. I'm being very clear. Do not disclaimer. But yeah, so that's kind of the the the setup of what we have going on with those batteries. And the other nice thing about lithium is we'll get asked, hey, will this fit in XYZ shuttle? Will this will this work for my application?
Brian Bashore (20:24.436)
Don't try this at home!
I've already done it. worked. You don't need to do it, folks.
Kyle Koisti (20:53.036)
The nice thing about lithium is it can be set on its side. It could be set upside down as long as you have it in your shuttle or whatever application you're using it, as long as it's secure and it's not being hit on top of the terminals by anything, you know.
cover, cabinet, whatever, you're good to go. Because I've seen people use these for a ton of different things. One of the biggest things is a utility trailer. If you have an enclosed utility trailer, a very simple thing you can do is you can put LED lights in there. You can put a portable sonar battery on one of those ice fishing battery brackets, mount that on the wall, and at any given time, boom, you have lights wherever you want to put them.
And then that way that battery is up out of the way on the wall. You have adequate light to dig around in that trailer for whatever you need. So whether it's ice fishing, I've seen a lot of the guys running a ton of field decoys for hunting. It's a lifesaver for those guys because you're setting up well before sunrise. yeah.
Brian Bashore (21:56.21)
Yeah, they,
You know, they, they, they take a beating. Obviously the ones in your boat are strapped down. And if you guys say that they were just, they just bought some and they just bought the 50 amp and they're putting it in their boat because they're running a live scope up front. So it's just separate. added life. You know, they're just getting into the live scope game today. got a garment, a nine 33, whatever SV upfront mounted on my trolling motor and I bought the 50 amp and stick up in there and the guy's rigging it. You know, it's in the shop now. I heard it from a couple of people. like, well, that worked. like, yeah.
Kyle Koisti (22:09.72)
Yes.
Brian Bashore (22:28.212)
Yeah, you bet. You can obviously have to figure out how you're going to charge it, whether you're going to take it out or, or they have it wired into their charger. don't know. But another, I mean, that's something that people probably overlook. A lot of guys are just taking that ice shuttle, put it in their boat, come open water season. And one guy said, goes, this one, he had to 30 up. He goes, I ran it three days. You know, I'm like, that's pretty excessive, but a of it goes to some guy overheard him and he's like, well, that's, I'm like, well, you don't know. I think he had an eight or a nine inch screen.
Kyle Koisti (22:28.75)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (22:34.958)
Sure.
Kyle Koisti (22:43.117)
Yes.
Kyle Koisti (22:46.797)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (22:54.996)
Like you may turn the dim, you know, the brightness of that screen down just a couple percent will add a lot of life. Your battery. said that would really sucks that juice down on your screens, your ice fish. When people have the brightness maxed out at 10. Um, I mean.
Kyle Koisti (23:00.194)
Right.
Kyle Koisti (23:08.93)
Yeah, well, especially if you're running at night, I have no clue how someone has it on maximum brightness at night because that just kills my eyes. Like I can't do that. You look around and you just have that like light halo as you try to see anything else. Try digging in the minnow bucket right after looking at a bright screen. man, I feel completely blind trying to do that. So, but yes, it's a...
Brian Bashore (23:31.4)
Yeah, that's why you starburst into military. They are meant to blind you momentarily when you look at bright lights in the middle of the night.
Kyle Koisti (23:38.348)
Yeah, yeah, but you bring up a good point because there's a lot of people that are using those portable sonar batteries as dedicated power for live imaging in the marine side. I know of people that have installed them and they don't just run one unit. I've seen it where someone will hardwire it and they will run two units off of a single battery because you get that dedicated
power for your electronics so you know at that point the pumps are not involved, the radio is not involved, nothing is affecting it.
And then you have the ability to also get that higher voltage because when it comes to pumps and whatnot They're 12 volts. You can't go with higher voltage because you don't want to ruin the pumps the radio that sort of thing but electronics these days You know some of them will handle, you know above 30 volts It's very very common for them to you know max out at 18 at 20 That sort of thing so they can handle that That extra voltage and there's there's no issue
when it comes to it and it actually gives you longer runtime and it gives you, I would say clearer picture. I've had a lot of people mention that, I feel like running the higher voltage has given me a clearer picture, a better return. One thing I will say is there's no way to put a data point to that. I don't have a way to say, well, if you use a higher voltage, it's gonna be 25 pixels per square inch clearer.
It honestly comes down to personal preference and someone's personal judgment. But the 16 volt running longer, that you can actually do in a data scenario. You can actually see what the draw is. So yeah, the runtime, there's no doubt about that. That's a proven thing. Yeah, personal view when it comes to clarity.
Brian Bashore (25:35.22)
And all the ice batteries come with chargers or I think it's a three amp charger So if you fish all day, you got to be coming every night to charge it. No problem But you have the rapid charger, but that just works with the orange batteries, which are is it N NGM?
Kyle Koisti (25:39.936)
Yes. Yep.
Kyle Koisti (25:52.27)
So what we have is the orange batteries are a lithium ion. The green batteries are a lithium iron phosphate, so life PO4. When it comes to the rapid charger, that is meant to be used with the 30 amp and the 50 amp, because those are two that are going to take longer to charge.
So you are correct. All of our batteries, come with a standard charger right in the box. So you don't need to seek anything out. You have the charger for the job right there and they are three amp. Yep. If you do, what I will say is say you're a guy running a 30 amp battery.
Okay, yeah, three amps. It's gonna take you 10 hours to go from zero to full. So that's why we made that seven amp rapid charger because you drastically cut down on that time. And next thing you know, instead of it taking 10 hours, it's taking a little over four. Or when it comes to the 50, if you were to take the standard charger at three amps on a 50, it's something like 17 hours to recharge from zero to full.
You drastically cut that down to seven hours if you are using a rapid charger. So yeah, it makes a big difference if someone is going real heavy on the draw and they need to charge in a short amount of time.
Brian Bashore (27:15.24)
Yeah, I mean, think everybody should just have one period. So, you know, mean, 50 amp, I if you're charging overnight and it's not all the way dead, then no problem. You're going to just going to charge very quick.
Kyle Koisti (27:27.106)
Well, where it really shined that rapid charger is there's nothing worse than you jump in the truck with a buddy and you're like, hey, did you charge your unit? no, I forgot to. Well, guess what? You can plug it right into the truck with a rapid charger. You can gain some charge on your way to the fishing spot and sometimes save your day. were some guys when we were doing IDL, there was one guy that...
I swear every time we were going to film a show, he's like, I forgot to charge it. Do you have a charger? Yep, in the glove box.
Brian Bashore (28:00.617)
Yeah, I could have used that last year at Lake the woods and got out the next morning traveled up there, somewhere somehow bumped some turned the power on, you know, and then got out there and turned it on. like, sweet. We have 8 % of battery left. It's on all day and night long for the eight hour drive over the entire night. And that was one of the old ones. like a 15 amper and I'm like, that sucks.
Kyle Koisti (28:09.474)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (28:14.37)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (28:18.04)
Sure.
Kyle Koisti (28:22.166)
Right, right.
Yeah, no, it's funny. The nice thing about lithium is you get such a long runtime. There was a guy I was talking to last year that actually he was guiding with some clients and he had mechanical flashers that he loaned out to them. And one guy had left his on overnight.
and he realized it the next day. So it's like he gets back out on the ice, realizes this one's been on since, you know, three o'clock yesterday. And then he proceeded to fish that full day. And then when he got home, he realized he still had half his battery left. So especially when it comes to something with a low draw, like a mechanical flasher, you know, some of these batteries, you know, you're looking at.
Brian Bashore (29:01.833)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (29:09.472)
anywhere from 60 to 70 hours of runtime on a single charge with a mechanical flasher and one of those 15 amps. So yeah, it's wild.
Brian Bashore (29:18.228)
They just, there's no worry anymore. You don't have to, even if you did accidentally turned it on and you went out the next day, you're still like, Oh, I still got a ton of battery left. You know, if you obviously, if you have one of the newer models, what have you, it's just, and it's an investment. You know, we get into the Marine side of things. People are like, Oh, they cost so much. It's a thousand dollar or whatever, you know, battery or I'm, you're setting up the entire boat. I mean, you got several thousand invested into it, but when I looked at other batteries and.
Kyle Koisti (29:21.76)
No. Yes.
Right.
Kyle Koisti (29:30.862)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (29:36.332)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (29:45.752)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (29:47.742)
came, mean crystal clear to the people at the ice show that were buying batteries when we told them what the warranty was with Norris, they just went, okay, I get it.
Kyle Koisti (29:54.434)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if we're talking on the marine side, we have a 10 plus two warranty. What that means is it's a 10 years non-pro rated, and then we add an additional two years if you sign up for the Norse Guardian app. So 12 years non-pro rated. So if at year 11 you have an issue, still covered.
And then when it comes to the portable sonar batteries, they all have a four year non-pro rated warranty. Because the green batteries, they don't have the ability to connect to Guardian, they don't get the plus two. But the orange batteries, the 15, 20, 30, and 50, those will have in total a six year non-pro rated warranty.
So yeah, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to longevity and use. And like you said, it's an investment. Here's a little number crunching for you. So on average, a lead acid marine battery, you would be lucky to get, the average lifespan is 500 charge cycles. The difference is with a Norsk, a Norsk Marine battery will have 4,000 plus charging cycles.
So a little bit of math tells me it would take eight sets of lead acid batteries to equal that same longevity in terms of charge cycles. And I don't know about you, but eight sets of lead acid, that kind of sounds like that might be more expensive than lithium. So an investment, you might pay more on the front end.
but you are going to get better usage, a longer lifespan. And you know what? If you need to take it out of there, it's a heck of a lot lighter. yeah, sure. Okay. So a charging cycle.
Brian Bashore (31:41.0)
Yes, so explain a cycle. I think that confuses people who think every time I turn on it's a cycle.
Kyle Koisti (31:49.87)
is based on 100 % depletion. So you taking the battery from 100 % all the way down to zero and recharging it. That is one cycle. So if you go out and say you use 20%, you would have to do that five times to equal one charge cycle.
Brian Bashore (32:08.82)
Makes perfect sense. the people that are like, well, I plugged it in at night, it? Then they start over as another charge cycle. Nope. It's you're still, you're, taking 20 % off the next basically you're already 20 % into that, into that cycle. So until it hits zero.
Kyle Koisti (32:13.036)
Yeah.
No, you're still going, so.
Kyle Koisti (32:23.574)
Yeah, right, so if we're talking charge cycles, I have a guy on the team named Shane DuBois and he guides for Lake Trout on the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Wyoming. And he holds the current record of most charge cycles in a single year. And he is constantly using that boat.
And I'll tell you right now, on a bad year where he had about three days worth of ice and then the wind took it out, he essentially spent the whole year in his boat. He got a whopping 63 charge cycles. That is the most I have seen in one year. So if you have 63 charge cycles, I mean, that's going to take a heck of a long time to get to 4,000.
So a normal guy, even if you were to get, say you do 200 charge cycles a year. Well, to get to 4,000, you would need 200 charge cycles a year for two decades. That's how long we're talking charge cycles.
Brian Bashore (33:30.1)
Yeah, nobody owns their boat that long. And most people don't fish that. mean, 200 years obviously would be a lot. mean, people like me has been 200 some days a year on the water and then basically charge their boat every day. I'm very seldom below even 50%. So you're looking at.
Kyle Koisti (33:35.565)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (33:42.37)
Yeah.
Right. I joked that you could hand these batteries down to your kids.
Brian Bashore (33:49.225)
Probably could, probably could. It's an investment. mean, I've had to buy, I needed one lead acid before I switched over, but I knew the new was waiting on the new North ones to come out. And I'm like, you know, when you switched that lead out, should switch all three of them out on your trolling. like, I just need to get it through November. I don't want to buy three. I went, I'm like, I'm just going to have them tested. like, these are good. I'm like, it'll be good enough for a month, month and a half. It was like $175.85 for a 31 series. was like, when the hell did these go up so much? I'm like, yeah, this is.
Kyle Koisti (34:03.042)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (34:07.288)
Right.
Kyle Koisti (34:12.462)
Sure.
Kyle Koisti (34:18.338)
Right?
Brian Bashore (34:19.188)
you know, and then are you going to replace that in a couple, three seasons?
Kyle Koisti (34:22.707)
Yeah, you using your boat a large portion of time and really putting it to work.
you know, realistically, if you kept a boat, you would probably have to swap those batteries out, you know, every year and a half to two years, I would suspect, based on volume of use and, you know, them not keeping up because one of the things when it comes to lead, the design itself, the moment you use 50 % of capacity and further down, it starts damaging the cells. So if you have a lead acid, if you use 50%, okay, you're okay still, but you use
60%, 70%. As you get closer to zero, you're actually damaging the internal components. Lithium, you have a 100 % depth of discharge. So I could use that battery and I could use 10 % or I could use 90%. It doesn't matter. There's no harm from that.
So that's one of the big things too, is you don't have that slow die off. Like if you go out in the morning and you're trolling and you're on setting three to go, say you wanna go two miles an hour. Well, by the time you get to noon one o'clock.
to go that same speed, suddenly you're creeping up. You're at setting four, you're at setting five. You don't have that with lithium. Lithium gives you everything it has and then is done. So a very, very steep discharge curve.
Brian Bashore (35:56.949)
Yeah. And, and they, they're heated. All your cells are heated now when they're charging. I mean, I got three instead of the three lead acid, lead acid batteries in the boat. also had three backups in the truck all the time. So not carrying all that weight in the boat carrying all that weight in the truck as well. You know, especially for tournaments. And I'm like, you know, but now I got two in the boat, which basically you have your backup with you on hand right there. And like I said, it runs a hundred percent until it doesn't. And then it just goes to a.
Kyle Koisti (36:02.968)
Yep. Yep.
Kyle Koisti (36:11.278)
Yep.
Yeah, sure.
Kyle Koisti (36:22.06)
Right. Yep.
Brian Bashore (36:26.804)
immediate stop, but the cold weather on that lead would drain those things down. And then I've had one blow up in the boat once because it froze or whatever it did. sounded like it was late in the year, like early December, I thought somebody was geese. And then, but I felt it of go thump and my foot was on top of the compartment. And it just, it had just, you know, the popped, you know, enough, but.
Kyle Koisti (36:34.585)
no.
Sure.
Kyle Koisti (36:42.03)
no.
Kyle Koisti (36:46.669)
Sure.
Kyle Koisti (36:50.954)
Yeah, yeah, that's wild.
Brian Bashore (36:53.032)
Values are they're all heated now. I mean, that's that's pretty much it going forward on the Marine side
Kyle Koisti (36:56.31)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on the marine side, we have what's called a thermal core heating technology. A lithium battery will not charge below freezing because of the fact it could damage the cells. So what we have is say, say you, you got done guiding for the day. It's cold. It's, it's 28, right? If a battery is at 28 degrees, what's going to happen when you plug that charger in, it's going to divert the current.
over to the heating pads. The heating pads will then warm the battery internally because that battery racking system gives us the ability to put the heating pads in between the cells. So you're not warming them from the outside, like essentially trying to cook a frozen turkey, right? You are able to warm it from the inside, get them up to a safe charging temperature, and then it will stop diverting current to the heating pads
it will go into your charging cycle.
Brian Bashore (37:58.617)
slick and a lot of people probably don't get that or they realize all the batteries and cold weather have issues with it. But obviously when you can, and it's going to hold that heat for a while too, after you unplug it in there. mean, I think that that battery stays pretty warm for quite a while.
Kyle Koisti (38:06.178)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (38:09.966)
Yes, Yeah, once you go into a charging cycle, then it keeps itself pretty warm because you have that current flow and it generates some heat to it. don't know if you remember, so a few years back, the NWT went to the Detroit River. And do you remember? was like, it was in the 20s. It was bad. And yeah.
Brian Bashore (38:29.328)
yeah. huh. The ice didn't come off my boat the entire week of practice. had a nice thick layer and it just, it was just there every day.
Kyle Koisti (38:40.386)
Well, in that instance, if you were to be running lithium and you were to not have one that offered a heating feature, what you would realize is there were guys that had their boat covers on with Mr. Buddies underneath there. There were guys putting electric blankets around them trying to warm these things just so they could get a charge cycle to be able to fish that next day.
And to be honest with you, especially a tournament guy, when you have to trust your equipment, that's not something you should have to do. You should never have to pull a false floor and try to warm up your batteries in that instance. Let's make sure that if it's ever needed, you have the ability to charge regardless of what the weather. So don't let Mother Nature choose when you get to fish.
Brian Bashore (39:31.316)
Yeah, that was definitely a cold one. And these things are used in more than just your ice shuttles, more than your boats. mean, people are using them, like you said, in your tree center hunting. They're in the ice shacks or in construction trailers, camping. can use them in your camper. mean, there are just so many places. That's why there's so many lithium companies out there. But obviously the technology that Norris has, the
Kyle Koisti (39:52.843)
Right.
Brian Bashore (39:57.107)
The ability with the app, which is the second to none, the thing is phenomenal to make sure when you're in your hotel room at night, you know, I can look and go, yep, I'm charging. And the fact that it'll say it'll be fully charged in two hours and some minutes, usually, you know, if I get off water at six, seven, I'll look at that at like 10, 11 o'clock before I fall asleep. And it's usually charged or almost charged or whatever, but I know that, all right, it's plugged in the breaker at the hotel didn't trip, you know, whatever the case is. Cause that's usually the ticket you walk out the next day and you're like, man, nothing. When, when did this?
Kyle Koisti (40:07.054)
Share.
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (40:14.478)
Sure.
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (40:21.411)
Right?
Kyle Koisti (40:26.744)
So yeah.
Brian Bashore (40:27.23)
trip on me last night, you know, and now I can look at it go, at least I'm 87 % charged before the breaker trip.
Kyle Koisti (40:33.358)
Yeah, it's funny you say that because if I'm looking at my guardian, I took a screenshot here and I'm running an 18 foot tiller and I have a 24 volt 90 in my boat. And when I was this is setting three on my mincota, I was drawing 2.8 amps. My voltage was at 26.52, 99 percent capacity and my remaining runtime was 28 hours and 38 minutes. I think I would have enough.
Brian Bashore (41:00.678)
You're good. Yeah, that.
Kyle Koisti (41:02.144)
Yeah, I'm good. I think I could I could troll some cranks all I wanted and some for some fall walleyes and I don't think I'm going to lose. I don't think I'm going to run dry. So.
Brian Bashore (41:11.796)
No, I've had people ask, well, how long is that? I'm like, I can run it. have two 36 volt, 16 amp hour batteries on 10, a hundred percent max out trolling motor all day long. You know, when a seven, eight hour tour, but I say, can run it all day long and I don't have to worry about it. You know, you're on spot lock in the wind when I didn't have these and have to turn the big motor on to keep the trolling motors charged. If I had one of those type of chargers going to that would, you know, about four hours in, I'm like, yeah, we're done with the anchor mode.
Kyle Koisti (41:22.253)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (41:40.053)
You know, it's blowing 30 miles into our face. But now I'm like, Nope. Now the only problem is keep the troll motor down in the water, you know, but I'm like it. I just don't have to worry about it. It's, know, I, I mean, I remember sitting right next to boats and I'm going, how come? You know, I got to turn my motor on at noon to keep this thing charged on my old batteries. When I had to power pole charge it and it not work, but you're putting hours on your big motor and the guy next to me never has to touch anything. I'm like, it's cause he's got lithiums. need to, I gotta get the switch. I gotta get these lithiums and it's a game changer.
Kyle Koisti (41:45.728)
Right, right.
Kyle Koisti (41:58.22)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (42:05.108)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (42:09.746)
What if so a lot of question gathered me different you got an 18 foot to I got a 21 foot, you know fiberglass boat what? How do they decide? You know, what what do I need? What's the kind of setup I should get? You know, it's obviously it's every boats different every anglers different and how they fish is different I wish the best way to figure that out
Kyle Koisti (42:10.359)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (42:22.733)
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what I would take into consideration, so like in your instance, you have a larger boat, a fiberglass boat, and you are going to be running some really long days. That's why you are running two 3660 batteries in parallel in your setup. If a guy, normally if someone would reach out to us, what I take into account is, okay, are you running fiberglass or are you running aluminum?
How big is the boat? Is it 16 foot? Is it 21 foot? And one of the big things I always ask someone, so are you gonna be fishing lakes or are you gonna be fishing river where you're gonna be battling current? Are you gonna fish big water? You know what mean? Are you gonna fish green bay? Are you gonna fish these larger great lakes where conditions can get a little Western, we'll call it.
And it's one of those things where you try to decide what someone's running into. So for instance, just a normal guy say, hey, I want to go, I got a 18 foot boat. I want to go troll cranks, right? Two miles an hour. Well, what I would say is if you went with a 3660, if you had calm conditions, I'd say you'd probably get between 10 and 12 hours of use out of that trolling motor at that point. And you would only need one battery.
Kyle Koisti (43:52.01)
So if you were a guy that, hey, I fish a lot of river systems, I'm going to spot lock on windblown points and heavy current and wing dams and stuff like that. At that point, then you'd need to consider, OK, do I need a second battery to have more runtime?
But the other thing I will point out is, and one thing we brought into development this fall, is we actually have a DC to DC charger now for both 36 volt and 24 volt. So in your instance, you could have a 36 volt trolling motor. And if you rent a DC to DC charger, what that gives you the ability to do is actually steal power from your starting battery.
and give it to your trolling setup. Because the nice thing about that, your outboard alternator is going to replenish your starting battery. So you can do that right on the water. But yeah, that's kind of where I would base that off of is it depends on what kind of water conditions you're going to run and how long you're going to do it.
I would say the common guy, you would only need a single 3660. Or if you have a smaller boat, say it's a 17, 18 foot, and you run in 24 volt, a 2460 would be sufficient. I run a 2490 because I could go multiple days with that. Because I had almost 30 hours run time when I took that Guardian screenshot. So once again, if I were putting two 15 hour days back to back, I could do that in a single
charge.
Brian Bashore (45:27.07)
Yeah, my 3660s I'll run 7 AM and then if it's like a league night till 9 PM and by six in the morning, I put that thing on charge of 10. It's fully charged because it's still at 50 % running those in parallel. And I have forgotten to charge it and have gone two, three days, know, just regular days, seven to three or seven to four and been like, you know, the breaker was tripped at the hotel or whatever and didn't look at the app for whatever reason. went, you know, until it.
Kyle Koisti (45:33.09)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (45:46.03)
Yup.
Kyle Koisti (45:55.448)
Right.
Brian Bashore (45:56.657)
And it dies like when it dies, it, dies and it's like, when the battery issue, was idiot. Didn't look at the app and make sure he was actually charging it. but it seems like they charge fast. think they, I mean, it, charges pretty quick.
Kyle Koisti (46:02.826)
Right. Yeah. Right.
Yes. Yeah, well, the nice thing about charging with a lithium too, you can actually charge them up to half capacity. So I'm running a 2490 and I actually have a two bank charger. So I put both banks onto my single battery and instead of charging at 10 amps per bank, I take that back. The charger is 10 amps per bank, but doubling up.
I charge that battery at 20 amps per hour. So then I can take that 2490 and I can go from zero to full in four and a half hours. Where that's really nice is say a guy is going to run a single 3660 and he's going to go dock and grab a bite to eat. Well, the nice thing is you could go to the dock, plug in.
You can go in, grab a burger, and when you come back out, you just put a significant amount of amp hours back in. So it's like if you're running a 3660 and you have two banks giving you 20 amps per hour, that one hour time period, you just gain 33 % of your battery replenishment. there's definitely some things that you can do with lithium that is really, really convenient.
Brian Bashore (47:22.388)
Yeah, and the 2836, so you got it if you guys got a 24 volt trolling motor and you're looking to maybe upgrade it down the way, you buy the 2836, you're good to go. You don't need to buy another battery. This battery, Norse battery is good for 24 or 36 volts.
Kyle Koisti (47:30.403)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure. Right, right. And yeah, I can cover that secondary set of terminals if you want and why those exist. So if you were running a 3660, we have a second set of terminals that is a consistent constant 28 volts. What that's perfect for is a guy that's running LiveScope or ActiveTarget, that black box module.
That can take a higher voltage compared to most of the screens. So that black box can take up to 30 volts. And so then you have a way to give the best possible transducer return as well as runtime by not even having to power your house battery, having to power that black box. That black box can go onto your trolling battery.
And just a little bit of inside baseball, if you were running a 3660, we technically have 64 amp hours in that battery. The four additional will run a black box for 10 hours. So that's why we call it a 3660. That extra four is set aside for those 28 volt terminals.
Brian Bashore (48:47.348)
Yeah. I mean, there you go. One less battery. You got to put in the boat. You run it. You added the live scope, switch out your trolling motor battery, your scope into that. You know, you're good to go. have a 135, 16 amp and all my electronics run on that. And that's, mean, that's kind of where it together. What size do I need? I'm like, I run four graphs of live scope, a troll master and some other stuff off that still doesn't get below 60%. You know, after a 10 or 12 hour day, I mean, this thing is phenomenal. Uh, but that's going to basically boil down to.
Kyle Koisti (49:09.24)
Right.
Brian Bashore (49:14.92)
What do they have? How many screens? mean, you see it now. It looks like the spaceship in front of some of these, you know, on the consoles and then, you know, the bow of these boats with three and four screens. And yeah, maybe you might need to put a couple of them in there. don't know.
Kyle Koisti (49:28.558)
Well, then you have those guys that are running the the NBT screens too. So I got a musky guy here in Minnesota. Nolan is running one of those 22 inches on the front of his for musky fishing. And you know what? You look at that thing and it doesn't even look real. I mean, it literally looks like he went to the store and put a flat screen on the front of his boat.
Brian Bashore (49:51.721)
Yeah, it's, it's getting a little crazy. It's insane. It's cool. I mean, Hey, if you got bad eyes and it's going to help you see things, you know, I, got it. Yeah. I mean, you know, whatever suits your fancy folks. If you like that, you like that. And there is something out there for everybody. So the best, solution is just get a hold of Kyle or email Norris and say, Hey, this is my boat. Here's my setup. I'm looking to make this switch.
Kyle Koisti (49:57.006)
So that's what I told him. I'm like, you're too young to have bad eyes, buddy. Like, you don't need this yet.
Kyle Koisti (50:10.499)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (50:17.42)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (50:18.174)
And now you got Marine batteries too, for the starting side of things. So, I mean, you got them completely covered. can go on this Norse all, all with the app. I'll get that, you know, invest into that, that, which I don't, I'm not aware of anybody else that has a warranty. It's not pro, pro rated, which is huge. I mean, that's really just the best way to go was just reach out and say, is what I got. What is it that I need? Just like you did with me. said, Kyle, here's my setup. What do need? You're like, boom, boom, boom. Here you go. Here's the charger. Here's the batteries.
Kyle Koisti (50:21.89)
Yes, we do.
Kyle Koisti (50:34.819)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (50:41.55)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (50:46.541)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (50:47.262)
Badum bing, badum bing, we put them in and haven't looked back and haven't had to mess with them or touch them at all. Cause you know, besides I'm getting ready to put them in a sleep mode here shortly in a few days probably, but other than that, they just, they've been flawless and awesome.
Kyle Koisti (50:53.012)
Right? Yeah.
share.
Yeah. Well, we have a couple of tools on the Norse Glythian website too, because we have a question and answer section. We have a help center on there. And we actually have something called Ask Odin. So Odin being the Norse god, he'll give you those technical answers. So we have some Q &A on there. If you're looking for a specific question, you can search your question at the top.
If the question's not on there, you can actually submit it to us and we'll respond with it. So even if you are unable to reach out and your issue comes outside of our customer service hours, we still have a way to get you an answer when needed. The other thing that we're rolling out is we actually have a portable sonar battery runtime calculator.
So if you're a guy that wants to know, well, if we had set it up with a bunch of drop downs, so if I am running a Hummingbird Helix 9, I'm running Mega 360, you can actually choose the different options for Norse batteries.
Kyle Koisti (52:07.02)
and it'll give you the estimated runtime of what that would be. So that's going to be rolling out here within, I would say, the next week. So by the time this drops, I would not be surprised if that's up and running. And if you have a question on which battery you need, that's a great place to find out how long each one of those batteries will run your setup.
Brian Bashore (52:26.812)
Just constantly staying ahead of the competition, bring it out in new technology, new batteries. mean, that's, that's kind of the game you got to play nowadays with, you know, with everything out there and, and what makes Norse, you know, competitive and out there with the red. heard a ton of people at the ice show say, Hey, you know, the guys that, that, that shield are doing a great job promoting these things. And, Dakota Angler, I think all the shuttles, they sold a ton of, of, of shuttle packages with the garments and all of them came with Norse.
Kyle Koisti (52:29.711)
You
Kyle Koisti (52:52.908)
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (52:54.004)
All the ones I was aware of there were the HDS shuttles. They had some fingers left. They all had the Norse. And the question was, do these fit? And like you said, they do fit. said the 50F, you turn it sideways, slide it in there, actually makes it easier to connect. Easy day. And for others, I know they fit in pretty much all the shuttle manufacturers are getting on board saying, let's make sure that the batteries fit in these things.
Kyle Koisti (52:58.157)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (53:03.693)
Yup.
Kyle Koisti (53:07.146)
Yup.
Kyle Koisti (53:11.168)
Yes, I have.
Yep, I have yet to find a shuttle, a third party shuttle manufacturer that doesn't fit in. you know, FinGear, HD Innovations, Summit, know, ArcLab, TKI, I have yet to find one that it doesn't fit in. So if, if you're, regardless of what shuttle you have,
Yeah that orientation on the 50 you might need to set it on its side to be able to go in there but yeah if your question is will this fit my shuttle my answer is yes.
Brian Bashore (53:44.105)
Yes. Okay. That's good. Cause that's what I told everybody. was like, far as I know, can only mess with about two or three shuttles and no problem. I'm like, I'm pretty sure with the innovation and the amount of research you guys do with this stuff before bringing it to market, I'm like, guarantee you they went and bought every shuttle there is and made sure everything fit. And if it didn't let the shuttle company know that, you need to make shuttles different to fit these. Cause most company batteries are all pretty similar in size.
Kyle Koisti (53:50.52)
Share.
Kyle Koisti (53:58.168)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (54:01.484)
Yeah. Right. Right.
Brian Bashore (54:10.58)
We got, this is coming out here next week. We've got holiday shopping going. What kind of, know Norris has got some things going on. got some free hats with purchases, anything else they should be looking for. We got black Friday deals started already pretty much because black Friday is an entire month of November. Now, if anybody didn't know that out there, is not black Friday. is all month.
Kyle Koisti (54:10.946)
Yep.
Kyle Koisti (54:18.452)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yup.
Kyle Koisti (54:30.254)
Yeah, I will tell you we did not start on November 1st so I guess we're late to the game but we did start this week earlier this week so yeah we have depending on the battery we have up to 30 % off some of the batteries on the North's lithium website and then on top of that we have free shipping with orders $200 or more and then orders of $100 or more you do get a free North's lithium hat so
Brian Bashore (54:35.958)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (54:59.65)
That's what I have right here. Richardson 112, we always get asked, hey, what are the hats? That's what they are.
Brian Bashore (55:05.874)
what they are. important, know, it's us hat guys, the ones that really need hats because we don't have a lot of hair. There's only certain hats that fit these bald heads properly, right? This one's a winner. I like it.
Kyle Koisti (55:10.444)
Yeah.
Kyle Koisti (55:14.644)
Yeah, you know, sometimes I want to cover the scalp.
Brian Bashore (55:18.612)
yeah. It's a, this mesh though, my wife says it, I get burnt through it and I get like a cross on top of my head. I'm like, it's meant to be. yeah. Yup. It does. does. All right. That is, that's a lot of lithium information and way better than I could explain it. If you guys out there listening to one stuff, reach out to the Kyle on the North.
Kyle Koisti (55:23.796)
It, yeah, it does, it does happen. I will be the first to admit, same with the sunglasses, you know, takes a while for that to go away too.
Brian Bashore (55:44.137)
You know, website ask Odin that's going to help you get your boat set up. Reach out to me. I'll do my best to, give you the direction, let you know what I got set up and what I'm using. Absolutely love it. and just keep paying attention. Cause I got, like you said, new stuff coming out all the time and it's ice season. So get those batteries out of sleep mode, make sure they're good to go. they're going to be good to go. it started getting that gear ready. Cause it's going to be here before you know it, whether you like it or not.
So I know you guys down south are like, the hell are they talking about? But it's a thing. It's a thing up here though, that has crazy people do for a few months. And, I prefer it be the shortest few months of the year, but it's.
Kyle Koisti (56:21.774)
Yeah, up here we can drive on ice with our trucks. I got a 10 by 18 foot skid house that goes out on the lake. People are amazed what you can do. Yeah, those southern guys, look at me like I'm crazy. Be like, you do what? Yeah, so I got a cabin on the ice.
Brian Bashore (56:41.414)
Yep. Yep. Pretty much. mean, that, stuff's a foot. I'm like, it's like really thick concrete with a very lot, a little bit, a few more variables. Like there's not earth underneath it necessarily, you know, but you know, I can swim. So I wear my cold snap suit every time I go, which floats. So I'm, I'm safe. but yeah, Yes. Just keep the windows down and the doors are locked in. Now, once you're on the ice, go ahead and take that seatbelt off. You'll be okay. So you'll be just fine.
Kyle Koisti (56:51.638)
Yeah, yep. Just roll down the windows.
Kyle Koisti (57:06.838)
Yep, you're right.
Brian Bashore (57:08.98)
All right. Thank you a ton for coming on here and giving us all some education on lithium. Kyle, check them out at Norse North lithium.com or Norse.com. Okay. North lithium.com. All right. That's a lot of lithium is just a tricky word to say sometime in Norse makes you sound like a Lisp. So it's, it's just that way. North lithium.com folks. We'll put some links down below and get on there. Check them out this week.
Kyle Koisti (57:18.698)
yep yep norsk norsk lithium.com
Kyle Koisti (57:28.238)
I
You got it.
Brian Bashore (57:36.712)
And save 30%. That's huge. That's a, that is a big, big discount. So, you know, you need it, you know, you're going to get it, get it now, save some money and spend the winter kind of fiddling around your boat, getting the stuff rigged up. And if you need it for the ice guarantee, the ice angler in your, in your life on your Christmas list will love you forever for these batteries. So it'll be like, just what I needed. Trust me. You'll, you'll be the hero. So, Alrighty folks. Thanks once again, Kyle.
Kyle Koisti (57:58.734)
you
Brian Bashore (58:06.03)
And thank all you for tuning in and stay safe. And we'll probably see you on the ice.