EP 30 | BEARS TO THE FUTURE

In this lively conversation, Grizz and Ice Bear explore a variety of topics ranging from the refreshing sounds of their podcast to the intricacies of fresh hopped brews. They delve into the absurd myth about synthetic vanilla and beaver anus, share nostalgic snack memories, and engage in humorous discussions about sports team logos and mascots. The conversation flows seamlessly, highlighting their camaraderie and shared humor, culminating in a light-hearted debate about Halloween and its memories. In this lively conversation, the hosts explore a variety of topics ranging from musical references and cultural connections to NFL history and beer tasting experiences. They engage in humorous banter about their favorite beers, the significance of family connections, and the excitement surrounding sports events like the Super Bowl and the World Series. The discussion is filled with personal anecdotes, reflections on international beers, and a light-hearted approach to their tasting ratings, culminating in a fun and entertaining episode.

Hosts:
Grizz: https://www.instagram.com/senpaistrength
Ice Bear: https://www.instagram.com/_._icebear_._ 

Untappd Accounts:
http://untappd.com/user/IceBearBeer
http://untappd.com/user/GrizzlyBearBeer

Takeaways:
- The importance of sound effects in setting the mood.
- Fresh hopped brews are a seasonal delight.
 -The myth about synthetic vanilla and beaver anus is debunked.
- Beer can have flavors that don't taste like traditional beer.
- Nostalgia plays a big role in our snack choices.
- Sports team logos can evoke strong opinions.
- Halloween brings back fond memories for many.
- The conversation often segues into unexpected topics.
- Humor is a key element in their discussions.
- Exploring the absurdity of certain food myths. Musical references can create cultural connections.
- The Cleveland Browns have never appeared in the Super Bowl.
- Beer tasting experiences can vary widely.
- Engaging with the audience adds a fun element to the show.
- International beers can have unique flavors and histories.
- Domestic beers often evoke personal memories and stories.
- Family connections can enhance discussions about beer.
- Sports events can significantly impact local energy and morale.
- Personal preferences in beer can change over time.
- Humor and banter are key elements of engaging conversations.

Sound bites:
"You shut your mouth."
"Too tough to fluff."
"It was a baseball fan's dream."

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Sound Effects
03:09 Exploring Fresh Hopped Brews
09:29 The Myth of Beaver Anus and Vanilla
13:12 Tasting Fresh Fluff Beer
22:22 Reviewing Citrus Slicker IPA
27:25 Nostalgia and Childhood Memories
28:17 Nostalgic Treats and Childhood Memories
34:25 Cultural References and Humor
40:26 Sports Team Logos and Branding
54:23 Halloween Memories and Celebrations
54:57 Cultural References and Music Appreciation
57:25 NFL Teams and Super Bowl History
01:00:26 Beer Tasting and Ratings
01:06:21 Charitable Acts and Community Support
01:08:22 Exploring International Beers
01:12:19 Beer Quality and Personal Preferences
01:22:57 Exploring Asian Beers
01:26:22 Domestic Beer Week Planning
01:31:28 Family Beer Preferences
01:36:24 Live Calls with Family
01:40:23 Reflections on Beer Choices
01:45:24 Baseball and Beer: A Perfect Pairing
01:58:07 Episode Outro

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Creators and Guests

Host

Grizz

Texas never saw a more hefty bear.

Host

Ice Bear

The fairest bear in all of Maple Land

What is 2 Bears 2 Beers?

"2 Bears 2 Beers" is a fun and laid-back podcast where two friends, often indulging in a beer or two, chat about anything and everything. From quirky stories to random thoughts, it’s all about enjoying great conversation and sharing laughs in a relaxed, no-pressure vibe. Perfect for anyone looking to unwind and have a good time!

Grizz (00:32)
my God.

Ice Bear (00:34)
⁓ what a refreshing sound that was.

Grizz (00:35)
I think.

This has been a much

Ice Bear (00:39)
When's the last time you heard one of those sounds?

Grizz (00:44)
like 24 hours ago. Actually a dual tandem, cause a dual tandem one's been a minute. I don't think we've hit a tandem like perfect sync or crack in a while.

Ice Bear (00:47)
My neckicles.

It has. It's been a long time since that crack was syncopated.

Well.

Let's see, much has been going on since we've last visited ye.

Hmm.

⁓ we're on to something now boys. We're cooking with Crisco right off the bat.

Grizz (01:29)
Look at that.

Ice Bear (01:29)
That's a nice little, ooh,

look at yours. We got some, we have one very pretty and we have one very handsome. This is the duality of Bear.

Grizz (01:32)
Look at that.

⁓

You know what you know when I think of stuff when I think of bears I think you know we're usually we're usually hip to the jive one would even say fresh and you know what everybody knows that bears they come with fluffers and this is right here is fresh fluff

Ice Bear (01:57)
One might say fresh.

man, I can't wait to see this cam when it's not super blurry.

Grizz (02:08)
This is.

Oh, yes, fair. This is fresh and fluff from matchless brewing the matchless brewing or whatever the hell they're. The word after matchless is this right here is pretty cool because apparently, are you aware of. Hopscroll a lot in this area. In the old Washingtonian area.

Ice Bear (02:37)
Yes.

Yeah. ⁓

Grizz (02:40)
So apparently

the local breweries here have a thing where they call, they do fresh hopped brews and they have releases around this time of year where they just use a fuck ton of fresh hops. And so, and so there's this, so there's specific releases that all the breweries do and it's fresh hop IPAs. And so it's fresh hops of the season. And so this right here is fresh fluff.

Ice Bear (02:54)
You shut your mouth.

Grizz (03:09)
fresh hop hazy EPA from Angeles. This fresh fluff is it has the hops. What are these hops? Fresh carpenter, fresh carpenter ranches, Citra, fresh CLS, El Dorado, the grains is Pilsner, flaked wheat, flaked oats, descriptors is fresh and juicy, fluffy, or juicy fluff. And this is from Old Tom Water.

Ice Bear (03:42)
He old Tumwater strikes again. I don't think I've ever heard of carpenter hops. That is a new one to me.

Grizz (03:51)
Same.

Ice Bear (03:53)
All right, how is my screen looking for you? Is this coming in clear at all?

Grizz (04:00)
yes, skibbity toilet, silky tan. Is that Otter? Or is it a bear?

Ice Bear (04:01)
No. It is. This is Skibbity Toilet.

This is Skokie Tail. Nope, that is an otter. This is Skokie Tail. This is Skokie Tail. And ye old Skokie Tail has produced the Flavored Dessert Brown Ale, a 5.9 from Sawdust City. Now it reads, Skokie, the lovable otter.

Grizz (04:09)
A beaver. it is an otter.

⁓

Ice Bear (04:29)
has been the mascot of the Gravenhurst Winter Carnival for over 50 years. His bright orange sweater and long curvy tail are well known around Muskoka. In honor of Skokie and inspired by a classic carnival convection named after another beloved Canadian mammal, we bring you all that you love about that deep fried pastry and turn our very own Skokies into beer. Notes of cinnamon, vanilla, and maple round out this scrumptious brown ale. ⁓ Hops.

Grizz (04:34)
Ooh.

Mmm, scopious.

Ice Bear (05:00)
Magnum. ⁓ This is great. This is a delicious. This is another one. Like a few weeks ago, I had that kind of orange smoothie one. It was pumpkin-y. And I was like, this doesn't taste like beer. This is another one that straight up just doesn't taste like beer. It's just, it's like drinking a fucking beaver tail.

Grizz (05:02)
⁓ damn, that's the big boy.

Mm-hmm.

Interesting.

Beaver tail from an otter. Does that mean it tastes like vanilla? Because there's beaver butts?

Ice Bear (05:29)
It-

What about beaver boats?

Grizz (05:36)
Yeah, isn't like, is it, or is that like an old wives tale or like a thing, but where synthetic vanilla extract is like beaver anus or comes from beaver anus.

Ice Bear (05:49)
What the fuck are we talking about? If that's true, I have never heard that and I'm so thrilled. I hope that's real. That's insane. Why would that be real?

Grizz (05:58)
So we're looking it up

like ready does synthetic vanilla come from All right, look at this let's say we're asking our boy Leo ready

Ice Bear (06:03)
We're looking it up live. This is, this is a perfect use of internet.

You

All right, Leo, what you got for us?

And let's be honest, can we really trust Leo with whatever he produces for us?

Grizz (06:33)
Yeah, mean, you know, we can trust him pretty damn close. I would say he's been like 95 % accurate.

Ice Bear (06:41)
We can trust him pretty damn close.

For those that don't recall, and even for those that have been with us on the entire journey since we brought this back at the start of the year, you may remember in one of our first episodes, we asked Lord Emperor Leo who was gonna win the World Series. And ⁓ we were asking for last year, but it gave us a prediction for this current year's World Series. And it said confidently.

the Milwaukee Brewers were going to win. And up until last recording, it was still entirely possible. Like the Brewers made it as close as you can get it before they ran into the robot god that is Otani. Were it not for him, it's entirely possible the Brewers are also in the World Series and competing against my beloved Jaybirds. ⁓ But

Grizz (07:24)
Yep.

Yep.

Ice Bear (07:42)
That didn't happen and so therefore I am slightly skeptical of Leo and his answers.

Grizz (07:52)
So, ooh, perfect.

Ice Bear (07:54)
Now,

while you're looking this up, my question is, what did you search? What was your phrasing? Were you like, are beaver anus's vanilla?

Grizz (08:07)
So I read, so I'm reading a couple of things, but the one I'm reading, let's see. So I put, synthetic vanilla come from beaver anus?

Ice Bear (08:22)
Yep, okay, that's you're on the watch list for sure There is no way you're not on the essay list

Grizz (08:24)
and

And Leo says, ⁓

What's called? Yeah. So here's the thing. So it's again, he's 95. No synthetic vanilla does not come from beaver anus. The claim that artificial vanilla flavoring is derived from Castorium. A section of beaver's castor sacs located near their anus is a myth. While Castorum has been historically used in small quantities for flavoring and perfumery is not used in commercial artificial vanilla flavoring today. Today.

Artificial flavorings, okay, whatever. Let's go through, keep going, keep going. Although Castor is occasionally used in niche products such as some Swedish liquors, it is not a significant component of the global vanilla factor flavoring supply. Therefore the idea of synthetic beaver comes from the beaver secretions is not supported by current food manufacturing practices, but it can be used and it is used, but it's expensive.

Ice Bear (09:03)
Ha ha ha ha.

So this is like Coca-Cola used to have cocaine. So back in the day, faux vanilla was just beaver taint.

Grizz (09:37)
Yeah. So he's, so it says, ⁓ so the Smithsonian goes, if you've been on the internet in recent years, you might've seen the claim that artificial vanilla flavoring found in cookies and ice cream comes from goose secreted out of the beavers behind every few years, post go viral social media warning consumers. Okay. Whatever. Keep going. All right. As natural flavoring. Okay. While this statement is not entirely false, beavers do excrete sweet smelling and edible Castorium from sacks near their anuses.

Experts say you probably can't find this goo on the shelves of your nearest grocery store. It turns out the stuff is incredibly expensive because it's rare. I can't miss from whatever college does.

So yeah, so apparently beaver butts.

Ice Bear (10:18)
Did you say that was from the Smithsonian?

Grizz (10:22)
This was, yes, Smithsonian Magazine.

Ice Bear (10:26)
What a wild thing for them to cover.

Grizz (10:29)
Yeah, and National Geographic hovered it too, but it makes more sense for them to do it.

Ice Bear (10:33)
Amazing.

Absolute, yeah, National Geographic. You know what? Good. Good for them. I like it. I support this. I support this a great deal.

Grizz (10:48)
who knew beaver butts are sweet

Ice Bear (10:49)
Bye.

So this is another one that you think back like who is the first person just like Who was hungry enough to start chowing down on on beaver taint?

Grizz (11:03)
I mean, like people talk about all the time. Remember like.

Ice Bear (11:04)
And then they were like,

Grizz (11:07)
E.G.A.N. LAS

Ice Bear (11:08)
Mmm,

sweet!

Grizz (11:11)
You know, it's like, ⁓ I mean, maybe they had the same fixations. were all the same people eventually, essentially never like 10 years ago was all about like eating stuff like groceries. know what? Under that Beaver Tail grocery store. Apparently.

Ice Bear (11:29)
God, you're onto something. You're onto something.

Grizz (11:34)
I'm just like Leo.

Ice Bear (11:35)
⁓ What are your first impressions on that there? Fluff.

Grizz (11:42)
It is actually very fluffy like like the the mouth feel is actually kind of like it's thick but not

stout thick like it feels like I guess it feels kind of unfiltered you know how like some like unfiltered ones they kind of have like they kind of have a little bit of ⁓ not density but you know what I mean like there's just a little oomph to them

Ice Bear (11:57)
Interesting.

little something there little little froth yeah a little froth well i expect nothing less from old tom water

Grizz (12:14)
And so like, it's like, like a little frothy almost, right?

And so it's interesting because

Tom Water, just like I say.

I ain't gonna say what I say, it's not right. I just remember that one time I accidentally called him cum water.

Ice Bear (12:34)
What do you say? No, do it. You know you want to

Yeah, yeah, that's where I thought you were going with it.

Grizz (12:43)
That's what I call them in accent that one time. ⁓ but it, ⁓

But yeah, it's, it's, it is real interesting because it actually does taste really fresh. Like it doesn't take, like it's, it's hard to describe this. I've never had a beer that like tastes like beer, but it also tastes, yeah, it tastes fresh. I don't know how to, other than like, I don't want to say it doesn't taste fermented. It just doesn't taste as.

Ice Bear (12:58)
Hmph.

Are we talking fresh

like?

like fresh in the same way that like if you pick an apple off a tree and eat it right there like that like crisp fresh or fresh like it's light and airy.

Grizz (13:26)
Yes, okay. Yeah.

You pickin you pick an apple. You pick an apple on a cold morning where the dew is still on the grass, you know.

Ice Bear (13:37)
⁓

Grizz (13:38)
Like that kind of rush.

Ice Bear (13:43)
like it. That sounds good. That sounds that sounds very fluffy. Very good. Be coming over to fluff with us. The sea the seal looked like she wanted to fluff with us but now she's

Grizz (13:48)
It's very, very like front heavy.

Ice Bear (13:56)
Okay, goodbye. Sometimes you can't bring them in for fluffing. No fluffing. No fluffing for this guy.

Grizz (13:56)
She can't, she don't fluff with it tough.

It's gonna too tough to fluff.

Ice Bear (14:09)
like that's my next shirt that absolutely that's gonna be my next shirt too tough to fluff and it's just gonna be a powerful little like outline of a of a a bear bit yeah the whole you know I always forget ⁓

Grizz (14:20)
Hahaha

There you go, the old icicle, majestic and free.

Ice Bear (14:38)
What's his name? Bertek the Pokemon? Like he has the little like crotch flop of like who approved this design? Why was that necessary?

Grizz (14:41)
you

It's like,

how did he get it?

Ice Bear (14:55)
It's it's such a weird yeah like there's no reason for even in a fictional world like that makes no sense to have that be the tuft of hair.

Grizz (15:05)
I think, I think, you know how like, you know, the best of us, some wayward boys get, ⁓ get curious and go into, go start gyrating on sofas, you know, between the, between the, between the pillows. think all, I think all bear tick, I think he did that with a little bit of, you know, some snowman or something.

Ice Bear (15:27)
you

Okay.

Alright JD, you settle down over there.

Grizz (15:37)
I'm just saying what happens in Appalachia

Ice Bear (15:39)
will couch couch aficionado

Grizz (15:48)
It's just like Bobby Lee, how he talked about how they made the when they were like in high school, him and his brother made their own like flashlights, both the Pringles can and like two sponges and glove.

Ice Bear (16:01)
⁓ no. No. ⁓ I have heard this. Yeah, no, that's terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. ⁓

Grizz (16:06)
Yeah.

I'm just saying, would you rather find your

buddy having one of those Frankenstein flashlights or just find out he snuggles with the couch a little too much?

Ice Bear (16:24)
Damn, what is worse? Hold on, let's think about this.

Grizz (16:26)
What's worse?

Ice Bear (16:29)
What is worse? Because with the Pringles can, like, one would hope that's just getting thrown away afterwards. I know that's intent, but like a couch I might have to sit on.

Grizz (16:34)
That's intense.

You would hope.

you would hope it does get thrown away. But then again, you can probably just change the glove, right? Like, that's not that bad.

Ice Bear (16:47)
⁓ so you think you think but you wouldn't put you wouldn't put new Pringles in it would you?

Grizz (16:54)
No, think the Pringles is that, ooh, what if he doesn't empty all the Pringles? What if he just empties enough and then eats the Pringles later?

Ice Bear (16:56)
So, some.

Grizz (17:09)
That changes things completely. I'll take couch boy all day.

Ice Bear (17:11)
⁓

yeah, I'm 100 % taking couch well day after that. ⁓ no.

Grizz (17:19)
Ha ha ha!

Ice Bear (17:20)
no, what if you what if ⁓ God. And then and then you kind of tell the tell the intensity of the session based on how many chips are cracked at the top. Like, shit, you to the top four chips are

Grizz (17:30)
Yeah, yeah, and then like ⁓

If you if you don't know an old boy, know, he offers you a chip and you just see what do you do if you about to get a chip from a Pringles can and you have a buddy that's just looking at you like

Ice Bear (17:47)
I'm first of all, I'm never gonna eat Pringles again now. So Pringles are now off the table. I don't trust Pringles anymore. No sorry Bob, no more Pringles. ⁓ But.

Grizz (17:48)
All wide eyed.

No sir you Bob, now that is a classic saying right there. I don't think, we don't use that enough anymore.

Ice Bear (18:07)
I'm going to start trying to least once per episode embrace ⁓ my honkitude. Like, I'm just going to lean into becoming an old white man.

Grizz (18:20)
No, Surrey Bob is great one. It's, it's, it's a great one. I, I remember that was like a class on the classics list. Like that was best hits growing up.

Ice Bear (18:21)
Just gonna, let's do it.

Yeah,

absolutely. It's for like, it's now like volume seven for white people slang. No Surrey Bob. No Surrey Bob. Well, you're an honorary white. You're allowed to the Mayo cookout.

Grizz (18:41)
Remember using that I don't like my aunt using that on me

Ice Bear (18:51)
We'll have, we'll have...

Grizz (18:52)
I'm just collecting them like I'm just

collecting them like that. I'm an honorary Kuya. I'm an honorary. I'm an honorary white now. I got like I just.

Ice Bear (19:01)
That's

how I feel. That's amazing. I love it. We're the full Captain Planet thing.

Grizz (19:07)
There, just like.

We're taking pollution down to zero.

Ice Bear (19:18)
I wonder if it would, do you think it'll censor us? What? It's the greatest, it's the greatest opening ever. Captain Planet, he's a hero.

Grizz (19:19)
I hate a capital planet.

No, the opening's great. That's the thing.

Back to zero. Yeah, like, no, the opening was great. The thing is.

Ice Bear (19:32)
answer.

But just the show, the show in general.

Grizz (19:39)
Yeah,

the show is like, you know, unlike like though you had the little like the little brown kid with the heart power. The monkey. All right, bro. All right, bro. Get out of here. Like that or that or like Captain Planet just had like the high top fucking buzz. Erase your head thing.

Ice Bear (19:48)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a real good haircut. Captain Planet had a real good haircut.

Grizz (20:05)
I don't know, man.

I think the only one that could pull that off was old Arnie in the 90s.

Ice Bear (20:11)
the...

Grizz (20:13)
That that and the guy from house

party.

Ice Bear (20:18)
Wait. Yeah. Yeah. What about what about Guile from Street Fighter?

Grizz (20:22)
But that one was like, that was like.

Ooh, Guy always get to.

Ice Bear (20:29)
Yeah, there's a couple people that have pulled it off over the years.

Grizz (20:31)
Yeah, Giles. Wait, who is

the American live action Street Fighter that came out like in the 90s? Who was Giles? It was fucking, wasn't it Jean-Claude Van Damme?

Ice Bear (20:41)
it Van? Yeah, I was gonna say, think it was Van Dam. Yeah.

Grizz (20:44)
Yeah,

dude, I fucking love jingling. He's my favorite frog

Ice Bear (20:51)
He's top tier. Top tier. ⁓ I would say.

Grizz (20:54)
Broken Arrow?

Ice Bear (20:58)
I would say for me, like number two, right behind GSP. GSP will always have a special place in my heart.

Grizz (21:06)
Mmm.

Yeah, didn't GSP do that that he was like the final boss in that one movie. ⁓

Ice Bear (21:14)
He's been

like a villain in a couple movies now. Yeah.

Grizz (21:18)
There was the, there was like a B movie that was fucking great. And it was like an action B movie and it's the guy that played spawn. I forget his name, but like the guy that plays spawn who actually like does grappling and stuff. It's called blood and bone or like the thing. I think it's called blood and bone or it's bone and something like, and it's a fighting movie basically. Like he comes out of like, I think jail or whatever thing. And he has, he ends up in this thing where he has to fight.

Ice Bear (21:30)
⁓

Grizz (21:47)
for money stuff and like, I'm pretty sure the final boss in that movie is JSP is fucking, and it's like, in San Diego is fucking awesome.

Ice Bear (22:00)
Sorry, I'm trying to figure out who spawn is. It's driving me nuts. can't. Michael Jai White. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's like a legit martial artist too. Yeah.

Grizz (22:08)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (22:14)
⁓ Well let me tell ya, ⁓ sidebar, Skokie to-

Grizz (22:17)
Yeah, Blood and Bone 2009.

How do Otter Boys do?

Ice Bear (22:22)
Skokieboy,

our beloved Otter friend. That was a great start. I mean, it could be that I'm just excited to be back in the booth, having some brewskis with my friend, but I'm saying that is a solid A-.

Grizz (22:40)
Ooh, A-. I think for right now, fresh and fluff. Fresh and fluff, I am going. So here's the thing. I've never had fresh hopped beers before. like, this is really good and I like it a lot. When I compare it to other beers, I'm like, eh, probably B+. I feel confident giving this a B +, but I am holding off on because this right here is an old Grizz.

Ice Bear (22:44)
solid a minus

Grizz (23:09)
fresh hot bonanza, because all old Grizz offerings today are all different fresh hot beers. So, so.

Ice Bear (23:17)
Ooh, interesting. So

the appeal of that gimmick might wear off.

Grizz (23:22)
So we're going to see how this compares to other fresh hot beers. So I am very excited for this.

Ice Bear (23:23)
and or it will grow on you.

I'm excited. ⁓

All right, what else you got?

Or wait, are you still working on number one? you got you got one locked and loaded. You are ready to go.

Grizz (23:41)
no, we done.

This right here, you know what?

One thing I don't like is the city, even though I live in the heart of the city. But sometimes I ain't one for city slickers, but I'm definitely one for citrus slickers. This right here is the citrus slicker. This is a wet hop, Ipa. It's a 6.2. Just the other one was a 6.4. This is 6.2. This is from Bailbreaker. Never heard of it in my life.

Ice Bear (24:02)
Pfft!

⁓ okay.

Grizz (24:18)
This is Balebreaker. is heavenly dry hopped while light in color and body. This beer is all about these fresh farm grown hops fresh off the farm in the Yakima Valley citrus liquor.

Ice Bear (24:19)
Neither have I.

you

Grizz (24:37)
Cloud burst collaboration with Bailbreaker. Bailbreaker Brewing Company. This is our first time on old 2B2B. This is from Moxie, Washington.

Ice Bear (24:40)
Very nice.

Okay.

well that sounds good I'm engaged I want to see it let's see that bad boy here I'll do a tandem crack with you again okay well

Grizz (25:13)
wow. Okay, so this on first thing.

Ice Bear (25:14)
My next one here, I'll tell you.

Hoppy is the first impression.

So, so this next one, I'm confident, probably the floor is a, well, I would say I'd be shocked if it was anything less than a B plus. Why? Because this is from our beloved pals at Flying Monkeys. They have another new one out. This is a double EPA. This double EPA is described as luscious and crushes. This double EPA is killer, dosed with exotic

pandan leaves, citrus custard and vanilla cupcake aromas animate the merry gold haze that this bouncy double EPA with an edge cut of bitterness on the finish. Cute can be vicious. is an 8.3 called Killer Cupcake Panda.

Grizz (26:26)
Panda. That's where the missing bear was. Look at that. He's in a cupcake and he's on Wonderful

Murder now.

Ice Bear (26:33)
Yeah, he's been doing some doing some

Grizz (26:36)
Does that make him like a Five Nights at Freddy's

thing?

Ice Bear (26:41)
don't can, can you, can you, can you see the pandas? they coming out or is it blurry?

Grizz (26:42)
Killer cupcakes and bears? That's pretty, that's pretty on par.

Oh yeah, no, they're coming out. Oh yeah, they're coming out. It reminds me of...

Ice Bear (26:51)
Okay, yeah. It's just it's there. They

they always crush the art. They're so good.

Grizz (26:58)
They really

do. Do you remember these old magazines where you had to like find the different things? It wasn't like Scholastic. I forget the name of it. It's going to fucking kill me.

Ice Bear (27:09)
⁓

highlights. Highlights.

Grizz (27:11)
Fuck

you, there you go, yes. Highlights. It reminds me of psychedelic highlights.

Ice Bear (27:18)
Yeah, yeah, like find find all the panda murderers. There's 17 panda murderers in this picture circle them all. Yeah, those were great. Man. That was

Grizz (27:21)
Yeah.

Yeah, do I still love fucking highlights.

Ice Bear (27:30)
You know, it's wild to think back on it, especially when you think of like kids now that have to have their iPads for attention. Do you remember going to a doctor's office as a kiss? No, I mean, yes, Zubox were also great, but like those little like the wire things with the little like how entertaining those fucking things were.

Grizz (27:38)
Zoo books.

Dude. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, dude.

And you get the one that has the fucking tight ass curl and you like, and he was

Ice Bear (27:58)
⁓ yes. So satisfying.

Grizz (27:59)
And you're like, dude.

And you watch that shit like, this is great. ⁓ dude, so good.

Ice Bear (28:03)
and

Did you

ever set yourself up for the one you're talking about, the really tight corkscrew curly Q thing, and you get it to the point you know that you can launch it and then you just flick it and it just like it rabid. Is that was that's going to be impossible to explain to. Like when this next generation has kids, that's going to be impossible to explain. They're like, wait, you just fucking flicked.

Grizz (28:17)
Yeah, you flicked. yes. Yep. Yeah. So good. So good.

Yeah.

Ice Bear (28:34)
checkers with a hole in them on wires and you loved it. Yeah, it was awesome. And then we went to our highlights books and we found seven cherries.

Grizz (28:37)
There you go.

Yeah. Or, like you time it perfectly. Yeah.

Or you flick one and it's the one that goes across and it's like long and right before it gets to the end, you flick it back and try to make it to the other side. That was like one of my favorite shits to do.

Ice Bear (28:55)
Yes.

Yeah. Yeah, that was really good. That was really good.

Grizz (28:57)
Fuck yeah.

This kind of smells like the weeds.

Like, it's just danky. Yeah, it's fucking danky.

Ice Bear (29:07)
Like the wacky weed? Like ganja?

Grizz (29:13)
That's interesting.

Ice Bear (29:14)
This

one straight up smells like a cupcake.

Grizz (29:18)
We're interesting. So how does that pair with like, I, IPA is like hops.

Ice Bear (29:26)
much like my first one, like this, this is another one that like, it's, it doesn't really give me any sort of beer energy. I just, I keep picking things that just taste good that aren't beer-y. So it's weird in a way, cause it's kind of disappointing because it doesn't feel like you're drinking a beer, but it's, it's very tasty.

Grizz (29:47)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (29:51)
The smell is absolutely, have you ever had, ⁓ what the fuck are they called? They're like a long rectangle, it's like a cupcake, they're white, there's like a zebra on the box. Is it just zebra cakes, is that what they're called?

Grizz (30:09)
Yeah,

gonna say, I zebra cake. Yeah.

You zebra cakes, they're, they're, they're not rectangles, but so zebra cakes are, they're more like, I think they're like octagons or hexagons. And they're like this thick and they have the little chocolate curly cues.

Ice Bear (30:14)
Yeah, okay, so zebra cake then. It smells exactly like that.

Okay, so that's the other one. So then

it must be

Yeah, okay, so it must be a knockoff version then because it's that exact color and taste but they're longer and they're like

Grizz (30:31)
I think I what you're talking about, but I think I know what you're talking about though, because it's still a white

cake with a filling, it kind of shaped like the Cosmic Brownies, but it's not. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Ice Bear (30:41)
Yes.

Yes. Yeah. So whatever that is, it smells exactly like those things did.

Grizz (30:49)
Don't those have like tiny like chocolate chip ish kind of things on top of them or like dots? Like not a lot of it's really like, okay. Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Ice Bear (30:54)
Yeah, yes. Yes.

Yep, just a little little little little tiny guys.

I used to, I'd get off the bus and I'd run home and I'd pull one of those out and I'd put it on a plate and I would eat it with a fork and a knife like I was some kind of like elegant aristocrat. no pinkies out but I would cut it into like six or seven pieces and I'm yes, excellent to you. Yeah.

Grizz (31:18)
Fucking Pinkies out.

Just so can savor it. get that. Yeah. Just so you could, you're just prolonging

the, you know, you're just elongating the experience. Yeah, that works. I take that.

Ice Bear (31:34)
That's exactly it. Just wanted to savor that bad boy.

Grizz (31:38)
One of my favorite was like, so a little Debbie's all of a little Debbie's right. Grew up with star, star conscious, probably the one I ate the most. Cause cause my mom loved them. Um, and then, and then my dad liked like nutter bars. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and they're kind of like caramely like chewy, like kind of dense chewy, like with like caramel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I grew up with those. Like my mom would hide them cause she'd get a box. She liked them.

Ice Bear (31:45)
who doesn't.

Are those like the crispy chocolate like round things?

⁓ yeah, those are good. Those were really good. ⁓

Grizz (32:07)
But me and my brother were fucking scavengers. So she'd hide them from us. And so I would sneak and I would fuck in the middle of the night, I'd sneak around to find him and I find them and I would get one every few days and I would just eat it in silence in the dark in the kitchen.

Cause I get in trouble. She caught me and ⁓ so good. ⁓ yeah, so good. But I went down and my dad loved like the nutter bars, like the nutter buddies stuff or whatever. And so I get those with him and I love those. But for me, it was always the cosmic brownies, the cosmic brownies. I would get home from school. I would take the cosmic brownie out and put it on a plate. I'd pop in the microwave for like eight seconds.

Ice Bear (32:29)
⁓ I love that for you.

have

Grizz (32:55)
just enough to get a little bit warm.

Ice Bear (32:56)
⁓ elegant.

Grizz (32:59)
And now, and I would, well, it was not elegant. Is it sometimes I forgot about it. It was a little too hot and I'd still try to eat it.

Ice Bear (33:00)
Very elegant.

Hold.

Grizz (33:10)
And it was great. It was still good.

Owen.

Ice Bear (33:16)
⁓ shit.

You know, was in hindsight, like this should have like given me a hint that I was on the spectrum a little bit. ⁓ You know, the little like colorful pop rock things on top of them, the cosmic stars or whatever. I couldn't let them sit on the top. had to press them into the brownie. So it was like a uniform flat top. Yeah, I couldn't let them stay on the top. was like, no, this belongs in.

Grizz (33:36)
Push them in? Yeah, I'd push them in too.

So I would eat them regardless any other way, but sometimes I'd be like, I'd peel them off. I'd pull them off and then eat them separately and then eat the brownie. Or other times I would just push them in. I got my finger, my hand felt if my hand, if my hand felt them anything, I'd push them in. Cause I, just, yeah, it's just, so satisfying feeling the little things. It was awesome.

Ice Bear (33:58)
that's a good move too.

Yeah. Damn, did we were were we the inventors of ASMR before it existed? I think we were. I think we were we gave ourselves the tingles.

Grizz (34:21)
think we're just bare-tarded.

There you go. Have you ever got the, you, we, was, user.

Ice Bear (34:27)
Alright. There we go.

Grizz (34:36)
What's the name of this episode? The name of this episode?

Ice Bear (34:37)
Wait, what just happened?

no, no. All right. Well, if you want to do it, just if we lose our our twenty third ranking in Thailand, it's on you, It's on you.

Grizz (34:53)
I Thailand,

I think Thailand will... Look, we don't disparage the Lady We'll

Ice Bear (35:04)
That's our audience.

Grizz (35:04)
Look, and we love Tony Ja.

Lady boys and Tony Ja.

Ice Bear (35:09)
We do love Tony Ja. We do love Tony Ja. I don't necessarily love Ladyboys, I'm just not opposed to them.

Grizz (35:11)
Yeah, I love that dude.

The gameplays are cool. All the videos I see in them, they're cool.

Ice Bear (35:21)
That's,

they seem very cool. Good for them. They're just hustlers hustling up a storm. ⁓

Grizz (35:28)
Yeah.

Are they

really hustlers though? mean like they're hustlers because they get the money, but they're not hustlers like they're sneaky because they're like, yeah, I'm a lady, but what you want.

Ice Bear (35:39)
Oh no, I just meant like they're on the grind. Yeah, no, no, no, they're not doing anything sneaky.

Grizz (35:42)
Yeah, yeah, they're basically

like Gary Vee, but ladyboy style.

Ice Bear (35:48)
Yeah, they're just putting in work. There's nothing wrong with that.

Grizz (35:50)
Yeah,

yeah. The Thai Gary Vee's, lady voice.

Hahaha

Ice Bear (36:02)
Shit, there's some snack thing that I was gonna tell you about and I got so distracted by moderately offensive made up words. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Grizz (36:10)
Boston baked beans?

Alright.

Ice Bear (36:18)
No, something I ate weird and I'm trying to... It's not important. No one cares.

Grizz (36:21)
six months.

Ice Bear (36:26)
Eclipse.

Grizz (36:28)
Six foot.

Ice Bear (36:31)
What's a six lip?

Grizz (36:34)
They came in little plastic sleeves and they were like little spheres that candy they're chocolate spheres. They were like candy color like M &Ms, but they were like little balls. And there was like red, green, I think yellow, probably blue. Maybe it's like a poor Southern candy or something, but I used to fuck those things up. They're great.

Ice Bear (36:46)
I know. Nope. Never had whatever this is.

Well, let me tell you, because I, being a master of segues, do we talk about what we briefly spoken before the show? Do we get into it? Because I remember sometimes these debates get heated.

Grizz (37:20)
I'm about how you're wearing a hat of

How you were talking about, ⁓ you're wearing a hat of pure winners and I'm wearing a hat of losers. Except they're losers doing pretty good right now. By pretty good. mean like not completely losing. They're like a tie.

Ice Bear (37:36)
I mean...

I mean, your boys are in a very winnable division. Like they could pull it off, no problem.

Grizz (37:49)
True, it's true. This is the year, I'm kidding.

Ice Bear (37:52)
The eagles,

mean, mean, Hertz looked good against the Vikings, but this is the year.

When was the last one? We were like, I was like, eight. 95, 96? How long has it been?

Grizz (38:07)
Yeah,

I was gonna say it was, I think it was, was it in 96? I thought it was before that. I thought it was like, I thought it was still technically early, early, early 90s.

Ice Bear (38:17)
I was in, I

think in...

I'm pretty sure I was in kindergarten the last time the Cowboys won a Super Bowl.

Grizz (38:30)
Let's see, let's see.

Ice Bear (38:33)
Ninety-f-95 final guess.

Grizz (38:37)
I was like 96 yeah. They was them against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, approval 30.

Ice Bear (38:43)
96.

Did they win the year before too?

Grizz (38:52)
No, so they won 72, 78, 93, 94, 96.

Ice Bear (38:53)
Was that when they had their back to back?

Okay, 93, 94. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Grizz (39:02)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (39:06)
Who the hell snuck in the middle and broke up that four-peat?

Grizz (39:11)
That's true, of the 90.

Ice Bear (39:12)
Patriots?

Packers?

Grizz (39:15)
Let's see, so three, four, who won five?

Ice Bear (39:19)
Who broke that combo?

Grizz (39:21)
We want to...

Ice Bear (39:23)
Niners? Packers.

Grizz (39:27)
Do you think Packers?

Ice Bear (39:33)
Packers or Niners? One of them.

Grizz (39:41)
Yeah Niners. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, they beat the San Diego Chargers. The San Diego Chargers.

Ice Bear (39:49)
That was Steve Young's year.

superchargers.

Grizz (39:59)
Yep, Steve Young.

Ice Bear (40:00)
God, them being in LA is a travesty.

Grizz (40:04)
Yeah. You know, the one thing I don't like about chargers is I hate the Rams logo.

Ice Bear (40:07)
We need to go back to the whale's vagina.

⁓ because of the color palette or just because you don't like the horn?

Grizz (40:21)
The way it is with like.

pulling up. like the way it is just like honestly kind of as a whole, the color palette is still kind of basically the same, but like it's ⁓ it's it's one because the letters are usually what like white, right?

Ice Bear (40:47)
Okay, yeah.

Grizz (40:47)
Like, ⁓

and then the, and then the ram horn just like sticks out of it all stupid. I'm not talking about when it's with the, when it's with the actual ram head. I'm talking about when it's just the LA and then the ram horn. I don't know. I don't like it.

Ice Bear (41:03)
Yeah. Yep.

No, I can picture what you're talking about. No, I'm not a huge fan of that one. The thing that bothers me more about it is that they had a great uniform when they were in St. Louis when it was the darker blue and the gold. That was a great uni. was a good helmet, good uniform. There's nothing wrong with it. And I get

Grizz (41:16)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, it was great. And then even at that like like the

wanting to look different. get that. the thing is, here's the thing. I feel like, do you remember the memes of like as they got, as we got older or whatever, like our, our franchise chains became more bleak and more like they became more bleak and less whimsical. they kind of, it's like, like, like McDonald's was the thing that the play has and stuff. And it became like the modernized brutalist brick thing.

Ice Bear (41:47)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Grizz (41:57)
pizza had the red roof and then it went to like, right. All the different things. I feel like the LA or the LA. So just the ranch, right? So the Rams used to have the bad-ass Ram with the actual eye, like baking the grunting base. Like he was fucking about to ram something. And it went to this like soulless, modern blocky ramp head, you know? And it's like, I feel like it's the same thing.

Ice Bear (42:23)
Yeah.

Grizz (42:25)
I feel like it's the solos McDonald's and I don't like that. And I think even that one is still better than the, it's still better than the LA with the Ram horn. And so if the better one, I feel that way about it. Like it's just, I don't, it's just, it just sucks.

Ice Bear (42:31)
That's very fair.

Yeah, I'm with you. hear you. ⁓ My boys are the worst example of logo neutering of all time. The Bengals in the 90s had, in my opinion, the best logo in pro sports. They had a full body, well-designed leaping tiger. It was a great logo.

And then even after that, they switched to just the tiger head, which was fantastic. And now they have just the gross B with the stripes in it. It's horrific.

Grizz (43:19)
With the B with the yeah, I

don't get I don't get why they did that.

Ice Bear (43:25)
Same thing with

your birds, your dirty birds. Baltimore had two phenomenal logos before they switched to their bullshit now. I don't know if you remember their first helmet. They used to have like, was kind of like a shield with like the Maryland flag and like wings coming out of it. And that was really cool. And then they switched to like a Raven head, which was super dope. And then they, you know, now they have whatever the bullshit is now.

Grizz (43:37)
I don't...

Ice Bear (43:54)
I don't even know how to describe it anymore.

Grizz (43:57)
Yeah. So like, I like the-

The one that's still popular now, like, like the side profile Raven with the B I still like that one. think that one's good. The Ford facing like screeching Raven face is cool too. I don't mind that one as much. That one's cool. ⁓

Ice Bear (44:17)
I like that one. Yeah.

Grizz (44:23)
Yeah, I don't think I don't I don't think I dislike any of like the Ravens ⁓

I think when you just have the Ravens be just to be, like, that's whatever. But, but, uh,

Ice Bear (44:37)
I'm not a big

fan of the letters. I don't like any time teams do just a letter.

Grizz (44:41)
Yeah, I guess this is just no point. Like I at least am happy that the Ravens at least still kept the side profile of the Ravens head. Like the Ravens head is still cool.

Ice Bear (44:54)
Yeah.

Grizz (44:54)
That's it. That is one thing. Like, I think like,

like the Cowboys really lucked out because like just the star, it's so iconic. Like it's so iconic. It's simple. It's minimal, but it also like, it just gives a thing. You know, like it's very easy. I think, I think even like outside of the Cowboys star.

Ice Bear (45:02)
Star's perfect. It's, it's, yeah.

All of the

Grizz (45:19)
I'm trying to think what else is great. I think the Tennessee Titans. not like, I think logos is super iconic or no, even like, I mean, the Raiders, the Raiders logo is so iconic.

Ice Bear (45:31)
Yep, nope, that one's great. ⁓ Vikings Horn is fantastic. Green Beige is real good.

Grizz (45:34)
The green Bay G. Yeah, the Viking horse great. think

the green Bay is probably the only letter one this great.

Ice Bear (45:41)
⁓

I, yeah, I would agree with that. I did think of another one that's really good that's been this logo forever. The lions, lions helmets, fantastic. No lions.

Grizz (45:53)
Panthers. the lion lions actually,

the lions is up there. Yeah, I would say the Panthers to the lions and the Panthers have been like consistently just great logos that they just left alone because it gets fucking awesome.

Ice Bear (46:01)
It's.

Yep. Yep. I'm with you.

Grizz (46:11)
trying to think who's, ⁓ Buccaneers. Buccaneers is another one. Yeah, Buccaneers is another one that's been great.

Ice Bear (46:13)
Yeah, sometimes you just hit it of the park on the first try.

I like the old one that everyone hated. The kind of sassy Johnny Depp pirate biting the dagger. I liked that

Grizz (46:29)
it's hmm. I didn't hate that one either, but I do.

Ice Bear (46:35)
Like when they had the really orange,

highlighter orange ones.

Grizz (46:38)
Yeah.

I didn't hate it either, the pirate flag definitely is like tougher.

Ice Bear (46:50)
Yes, it is. It is, most assuredly. ⁓

Grizz (46:51)
Yeah, the, the,

the, Texans logo is actually great too. I do like the Texans logo a lot. I've always liked the Texans logo.

Ice Bear (47:00)
Yes, is. Now here's the better question. I'm curious to see if we agree on this. All right. Who is

Grizz (47:05)
Ooh, actually another logo. That's

great. Real quick. gotta give, I gotta give it to Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos logos. Fucking always been phenomenal.

Ice Bear (47:12)
Go on.

Grizz (47:18)
It's a strong ass horse. Yeah.

Ice Bear (47:19)
I like both of them. like

the current one, I like the old one with the guy in the D. I like them both.

like them both a lot. Now, now the real question is who, who is the worst?

Grizz (47:29)
All right.

worse

Ice Bear (47:41)
Who is the worst? Because

I have one that immediately I think is the worst.

Grizz (47:48)
Worst as in just overall design or just color or like change for the worst. do mean?

Ice Bear (47:57)
Both

Grizz (47:59)
This asshole.

That's good, this is a good one.

I have one that I don't know if it's. ⁓

Ice Bear (48:12)
Because for me, it's

overwhelmingly awful. For a number of reasons.

Grizz (48:20)
interesting. I don't think I have.

Ice Bear (48:22)
And to be clear,

I'm talking about the helmet, for clarity. The helmet.

Grizz (48:32)
Hmm, I'm trying to think of...

Ice Bear (48:33)
So not

alternates, not anything on the field. The helmet.

Grizz (48:42)
This is a good one. I can get, I don't know if it's the worst, but I can give you one I don't like.

And this may be the one I've never liked and I don't think it's even a bad logo overall, but I just don't like it. And the thing is the thing with it too is like, actually like the animal that it is for whatever reason. I've just never liked it at all. It's always just rubbed me the wrong way, even though it's actually, ⁓ actually before I say it.

Ice Bear (48:53)
Alright, hit me. Hit me with it.

I think I know where you're going with this.

Grizz (49:21)
Tell me what you think I'm gonna go with.

Ice Bear (49:26)
I think you're going to say Miami.

Grizz (49:30)
dolphins. Yeah. So here, was going to say this because if we were going to go uniforms, I think Miami dolphins is the worst. I think I hate the color palette. I hate everything about the things. It's just lackluster. One, I'm not going Miami because when I was saying like, I like the animal and like overall, it's not a bad one, but I just never liked it. Even though I don't think it's a bad one. Right.

I think that, I think Miami dolphins is a bad one personally, but the ones, one that never, I never like dislike or they get, don't think is a bad play, but I just dislike it. The actual answer is, is the Cardinals. I don't know why I've never liked the Cardinal logo, but it's always just rubbed me the wrong way.

Ice Bear (49:59)
Okay.

So what was the answer?

⁓ you know what? I don't

like it either.

Grizz (50:22)
I don't know what it's about. Cause it's not necessarily a bad logo. If you think about it compared to other ones, it's not necessarily a bad one, but for whatever reason, just maybe it's the way it sits on the helmet. Maybe, maybe, don't know because like that, maybe because the eyes like too like human or something. I don't know what it is, but I've never liked the Cardinal logo.

Ice Bear (50:22)
I don't like it either. Now that I think about it.

He's a little too

ill-tempered. There's something about that bird. Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I'm with you.

Grizz (50:46)
Like, cause you think of like angry

bird, the Eagles has an angry bird, but it looks great. Right. But like, I don't know. I've just never liked the Cardinal logo at all. I don't, I don't necessarily think it's a bad logo, even like on their way things when they have like the white with just the maroon, it looks good. The color palette looks good, but I don't know what it is. I just never, since I was young, I've never liked the Cardinal logo.

Ice Bear (50:53)
Yes. Yep.

That's fair. That answer is incorrect, but that is a fair opinion. The objective worst helmet in all of foosball belongs to my cross-state enemy, the Cleveland Browns.

Grizz (51:22)
So.

Ice Bear (51:35)
It is a lazy, incomplete project.

Grizz (51:38)
You see,

the C is, yeah, that's fair. This is actually very fair.

Ice Bear (51:44)
There's no, no, there's no, there's no, see? It's brown. There's no logo. It's just brown.

Grizz (51:49)
Although hey, just a

helmet. Yeah.

Ice Bear (51:53)
It's just brown. The logo on the field is just a picture of their helmet. It's just brown.

Grizz (52:04)
True, right? Yeah, because even their new ones, right? It's just orange and brown, right?

Ice Bear (52:04)
If the thing is that really bothers me, if they put their...

Yeah, it's still just that shitty orange, brown, white helmet. And it drives me nuts because they have the pretty well designed dog for the dog pound, which is cool. The Bulldog's cool. Just throw that on your helmet, you have a good helmet. But as it stands, they just have a ridiculous...

Grizz (52:17)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (52:33)
incomplete incorrect helmet and it gets negative five points for zero effort.

Grizz (52:41)
Brownie elf logo used in midfield from 2022 to 2024. The fuck? And an elf logo.

The dog logo is cool though. Actually, the dog logo is actually really cool. Yeah, the dog logo is actually dope.

Ice Bear (52:54)
Yeah, they had like when Baker Mayfield was quarterback.

Yeah, I like the dog logo.

The elf is insane.

Grizz (53:03)
Yeah, the else, I don't know about that one.

Ice Bear (53:04)
Yeah, the elf

is insane.

Grizz (53:06)
But the dog logo is actually great. You know, so bad as I just forget about the Cleveland bounce.

Ice Bear (53:10)
⁓ just use that. you hit you.

I mean, they're a very forgettable thing. just, they're

Grizz (53:20)
Like I know being a Dallas fan, I know being a Dallas fan is like a meme, but like a Browns fan, sounds like Dallas fans are masochistic, but a Browns fan, just being a diehard Browns fan for life.

Ice Bear (53:20)
I don't think they've...

I don't think they've-

Yeah.

Yeah, it's rough. It's as rough as it gets. I don't think they've made a Super Bowl in our lifetimes. I don't think they've been to one.

Grizz (53:40)
That's something else.

Ice Bear (53:52)
I don't know if they've been to one ever now that I think about it. I don't think they have.

But let's not get bogged down in that. That's not a detail to worry about. What I ask you, is do we want to invest the remainder of this episode engaging in the great mascot battle of Major League Baseball?

Grizz (54:23)
We can celebrate the old birds soaring.

Ice Bear (54:26)
or

Or, or do we want to fondly reminisce about Halloween's past?

Grizz (54:40)
All Hallows Eve.

Ice Bear (54:45)
⁓ hell is he.

Grizz (54:46)
Or as Glenn

Dantzig said, Hello, way. That's how he said it.

Ice Bear (54:55)
That was beautiful. Thank you, sir.

Grizz (54:57)
This night anything goes and black cats. That's

how he says it. All the way. This night. Anything goes. Black cats hanging from poles.

Ice Bear (55:06)
I

Grizz (55:11)
Have you ever heard Glendantic sing?

Ice Bear (55:12)
I

like that. No, that's why I'm so I'm just like, sometimes the references are too obscure even for me. And so I'm just I'm wondering, these poor, lovely listeners in Thailand, do they understand these references? Or is it just marveling at our

Grizz (55:30)
Lady boys love the Misfits.

And not the Misfits when they got big. Probably the first singer of the Misfits. That's what I'm talking about.

Ice Bear (55:36)
You

their their their their true fans. The real deal.

That's a killer cupcake, alright.

Grizz (56:05)
What years did the Browns make the Super Bowl? that's beautiful. Is it good beer?

Ice Bear (56:05)
As this has gone on, by the way, it's less cupcake and becoming more beer.

It is good. Yeah, they've they've they never miss. I'm thinking it's like. It's another a minus, it's going to be right there with the first one.

Grizz (56:18)
yeah.

Damn,

damn. What years did the Browns make the Super Bowl? Leo says, the Cleveland Browns have never appeared in the Super Bowl.

Ice Bear (56:29)
So what was the, what's the Browns answer?

Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, I kind of thought that. That's rough. That's real rough.

Is there anyone else that hasn't been in any? Panthers, no, they were in one with Cam Newton. Jags, Jags have never been in one, I don't think.

Grizz (56:49)
Let's see.

What teams?

into the Super Bowl. Let's look at this live.

Ice Bear (57:05)
Cardinals? Nope. I think just Jags. Jags and Jags and Browns, right?

Grizz (57:11)
four NFL teams have never appeared in the Super Bowl. Do you want to guess?

Ice Bear (57:17)
Okay.

Well, I had my two Jags Browns. Let's see who. Yeah.

Grizz (57:21)
the Cleveland Browns.

Jacksonville,

drag wires, Detroit lions. And who is probably, who is the youngest? One of the youngest teams. Yeah. Who's one of the youngest teams.

Ice Bear (57:29)
Okay.

⁓ poor lions. Yeah.

Texans?

Not the Texans? Texans. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

Grizz (57:44)
to Texans.

And I know this. ⁓

Ice Bear (57:49)
That

makes sense.

Grizz (57:57)
I know this cause in granted this, was 2001, right? And this song, and I mentioned the song before, cause it's Cause I talked about how like he's talking about how like 2001 is his motherfucking year and he stopped selling drugs cause like fuck prison. Right. But he, now he's in prison cause he's, cause he's R Kelly basically.

Right. But in there, but in in in all that, there was a. He's from Houston, right. And in there in 2001, he had said.

Ice Bear (58:20)
I

Grizz (58:36)
What say? What did you say?

Yeah, he says

Now how many times do I have to tell you? All my life I've been called a failure. My freestyle flow is so untouchable. I just got out the canning jail two months ago. Now I'm in the studio just like Julio in the city where the bitches never won a Superbowl. Cause he's from Houston.

Ice Bear (59:07)
You

Grizz (59:10)
but this is also 2001. So of course they never won a Super Bowl because they were very, very new at that point.

Ice Bear (59:20)
mean is he also ragging on the oilers who were there for a while with with my boy Warren Moon

Grizz (59:24)
Ooh, actually, I mean, actually, that's fair,

Ain't no Warren Buffett that's all I'm saying.

Ice Bear (59:32)
Shout out to Warren.

You

⁓ Speaking of logos.

Grizz (59:41)
Damn, that's crazy. So I was looking at the thing

right clea- Logos?

Ice Bear (59:46)
Oilers, man. Oilers were peak. That was a great color palette, great logo.

Grizz (59:50)
That's a good one.

Yeah.

It was good. I'll give them that. It was great.

Ice Bear (1:00:05)
What were you cooking up? You were about to say something over there.

Grizz (1:00:05)
That sucks to be like to be in the AFC

like the fucking. The Cleveland Browns have made three AFC championship game appearances, 1986, 1987, and 1989. They lost every time to the Denver Broncos.

Now, if there's ever a feud, it should be that.

Ice Bear (1:00:27)
that's brutal. That's like, that's like the Bengals.

Grizz (1:00:32)
And the dirty birds. The Detroit Lions reached the NFC championship game in 2023, but lost to 49ers. The Jacksonville Jaguars, where I feel the most bad. They made the AFC championship game in 1996 and again in 2017. They lost both times to the Patriots.

Ice Bear (1:00:54)
fuck, that's crazy when that happens. That's like the Bengals lost both the Super Bowls in the 80s to the Niners. That's rough. It's rough when the same team beat you down repeatedly.

Grizz (1:00:57)
Yeah.

Niners.

Yeah.

Sadly.

Ice Bear (1:01:26)
Tasty brusky. A tasty little brusky.

Double up, giddy up, A minus.

Grizz (1:01:36)
Anyways, yeah, I'm, glean

Ice Bear (1:01:37)
Did you have an assessment

on that second one yet?

Grizz (1:01:41)
Yeah, so this second one, not as good as the first one.

I'm going.

B minus for the old citrus liqueur.

Ice Bear (1:01:57)
⁓

Grizz (1:01:59)
And also it's hard R, citrus slicker, not slicker.

And then fresh fluff is I think because B- this is a solid B-plus so far. It's still raining top. This might be becoming A- but so far B+. I'm keeping it a B-plus because I'm prudish.

Ice Bear (1:02:31)
Love it to pieces.

Grizz (1:02:33)
Are you ready for your 2.2.0? Because I'm ready for my 2.2.0.

Ice Bear (1:02:39)
I mean, I'm certainly unopposed for a 2.0.

Grizz (1:02:44)
Alright, all you...

Ice Bear (1:02:46)
so much

so that

I one. I have one right there.

Grizz (1:02:53)
While you do that right there, I'm going to go run and get mine. entertain our Thai audience.

Ice Bear (1:03:01)
⁓ of course.

I'm on it. Okay, no problem at all.

All right. Well, I know what you want. You've all been asking for it. Little bit of a string dance. You don't want to hear me talk. You want to see me dance. Tonight's the night you're in luck. Here it comes. String dance.

Alright people, now you're gonna know what happened. I'm gonna know what happened. He's not gonna know what happened. It's gonna be a good time.

Habs game started had to switch hats.

Grizz (1:04:26)
Damn, you're going night mode?

Ice Bear (1:04:28)
so I'm going night mode while you're away. The audience and I shared a little moment, so you'll just have to wait and see what happened.

Now, let me tell you, I had to entertain the audience and maybe it involved fluffing. And now you also have to entertain the audience because I what's the delicate way to say this, I need a snack to go with my beer. I'll be right back.

Grizz (1:04:46)
fluffing in the dark.

neck attack. So

Well, he's away. I'm sure he said something uncouth.

I'm not nice. So I'm going to spend this time saying good things about them.

One of my favorite memories of E.O.L.L.L.L.

One day we...

got a bunch of packs of bald oak. That's when they first came out. Super spicy, super, super spicy for people. of finish them to neutralize them. We got instant curry blocks. So we made some bald oak curry ramen.

And we got some food truck, little like some food truck, food truck, buns, some IPAs and some Balda curry ramen.

It was phenomenal. And we ate that and over like a three, four day span, we probably filled a whole counter with at least 30 cans of white monsters.

It was beautiful. It was a shrine to.

Bare unity.

Truly phenomenal.

And even more so than.

It's why you should always donate to your local shelter because them boys, they don't know. Them boys, don't know what they're missing until you give them resources.

Ice Bear (1:07:07)
yeah, I thought so.

I knew it. I knew you were being

charitable. I knew you were being charitable in my absence.

HURR-

Grizz (1:07:23)
Yeah. Bless you.

Ice Bear (1:07:28)
I'm dying. don't know what it is. My God.

I have a fresh crackable.

My god.

Grizz (1:07:47)
Oof.

That one went silent.

Ice Bear (1:07:51)
I muted it because I knew it. I knew I couldn't hold it in. I felt it ready to rattle the mic.

It was was on on the edge.

Grizz (1:08:04)
That was pretty powerful. Powerful.

Ice Bear (1:08:08)
The mic

would have just been able to blown out the system. No, it's happening. It's happening.

Ugh.

Grizz (1:08:21)
All right.

Ice Bear (1:08:22)
terrifying.

terrifying. My God. Sorry, Thailand. What's terrifying?

Grizz (1:08:28)
You know what's terrifying? You sitting in that

seat and not introducing your second second beer.

Ice Bear (1:08:36)
yes, my second beer is of course, ⁓ speaking of Detroit, this is Lion Extra Stonk Stout.

Grizz (1:08:45)
Ooh.

Ooh.

Ice Bear (1:08:48)
God, the sneezing. ⁓ This is ⁓ Revel in the Rich, flavors and heady, aromas of Lion's Stout, our most decorated beer, and Asia's most famous stout. 8.8, Lion's.

Where is this from? It said Asia. Blah, blah, blah, blah. London, Ontario. That's who. this is from Sri Lanka.

Grizz (1:09:05)
Bless you.

Interesting.

Ice Bear (1:09:18)
Cool cool let's see what a Sri Lankan beer tastes like I don't know if I've ever had one for sure

I'm not 100 % sure we've ever dabbled with these bad boys.

Grizz (1:09:33)
I don't think I've ever heard of a strong gin beer. That's really, really cool.

Ice Bear (1:09:36)
Yeah, I, when I got this, that was unintentional. just liked the can. was like, Ooh, lion fun.

Thanks.

Grizz (1:09:49)
All about clean this right here.

Ice Bear (1:09:53)
my god, this is

this is Guinness level thick. It's all. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give that a second.

Grizz (1:09:59)
Holy shit.

Them, them Sri Lankans to get down.

God damn.

Ice Bear (1:10:14)
What do you got over there? What's in your neck of the woods? What the fuck?

Grizz (1:10:25)
Fable would have failed your ass.

Ice Bear (1:10:30)
That's all of it. That's the whole can. It's all froth. There's nothing but head on this bad boy.

It's like a vertical chode all ahead.

all head.

Grizz (1:10:48)
All hail the head.

Ice Bear (1:10:50)
⁓ man. All right. What are you drinking over there?

Grizz (1:10:59)
coming from.

Ice Bear (1:11:01)
Ooh.

Grizz (1:11:02)
Astoria, or Georgia fucking Oregon, what the fuck Astoria, Oregon. This is mirrored realities. Fresh Hop IPA. I had two Fresh Hop Washington beers. This is a Fresh Hop Oregon beer called shared realities and look at this.

Ice Bear (1:11:16)
⁓

South of the border, drug capital of the world. I like the can. like the font. I like everything about it.

Grizz (1:11:32)
This here, fantastic. West Coast EPA, 7%. This is the strong boy of the century for me because I don't know what it is about the Pacific Northwest, but they do not like high ABVs. I have yet to find a sub above 7.5 here. So this 7 % is the strongest one I've had from this area.

Ice Bear (1:11:58)
You- you-

You normally used to always be higher than me. And yeah, lately you're right. I have been... Because I might have been in the eights and you've had a lot of sixes and sevens.

Grizz (1:12:12)
Yeah. Texas is all I could easily always find eights, nines, tens, 11s. And from the Texas breweries, these. Yeah. So that's one thing I've been missing, but you know what's been giving, getting me through that reliable 9.5 Voodoo Rangers. I can reliably get a Voodoo Ranger Imperial boy. 9%.

Ice Bear (1:12:19)
Everything's bigger, even the ABV.

God bless Voodoo.

Grizz (1:12:41)
Juice Force 9.5%.

Ice Bear (1:12:45)
Good job, Voodoo. Good job.

Grizz (1:12:56)
Damn, this is very aromatic. Like I'm pouring this kind of like pretty away from me. Now I'm still catching whiffs of all the hops from the pour. damn.

Ice Bear (1:13:10)
bro this is this is horrendous I'm scared this is not good my combo is about to be

Grizz (1:13:18)
like lion, like, like, like.

Ice Bear (1:13:23)
I don't know man this this is this is bad

Grizz (1:13:28)
What what are we talking what are we talking?

Ice Bear (1:13:33)
I mean, I'll try it. I'll taste it. But this this smells as bad as I can ever remember to beer smelling.

Grizz (1:13:41)
What's this smell like?

Ice Bear (1:13:44)
⁓ Give me a second. gotta I gotta brave the strength to go back in. Okay.

⁓ It smells like ⁓

Damn it, I have to go again and again because I'm not articulate.

Have you ever like burnt pasta on the stove?

like one of the noodles just accidentally gets out of the pan somehow and it just starts burning on the stovetop.

Grizz (1:14:22)
Yep. Yep.

Ice Bear (1:14:25)
That. It's just a burnt, weird burnt smell.

Grizz (1:14:27)
Thanks.

Interesting.

Ice Bear (1:14:35)
man, it's, and there's something else going on there. Like a.

man, Sri Lanka, what are you doing?

revel in the rich flavors and heady aroma I mean is this literally a lion? okay here's the ingredients water, barley, sugar, roasted malted barley, caramel, hops like this shouldn't smell like this this should be okay alright

Grizz (1:14:48)
Is that where all those people die in the mountains?

Ice Bear (1:15:10)
Wish me luck.

Grizz (1:15:13)
That's black as fuck, holy shit.

Ice Bear (1:15:19)
Okay, it's not as bad as I thought it was gonna be but this is not

This is like it's blacker than my black hat.

Grizz (1:15:33)
That's what I'm saying, like, this shit is dark as fuck. This shit's extremely dark.

That's rough.

Ice Bear (1:15:41)
Yeah, don't. We'll see. I don't know if this one's gonna get finished.

Grizz (1:15:48)
No.

Ice Bear (1:15:53)
This might be our second ever pour out. And we know it's a sin to waste good beer, but this is not good beer.

Okay, go ahead. Nope.

Not good. Not good.

I wonder if people think I'm hamming it up for a reaction. And I can assure you I'm not. is very real. This is what it makes my body do. No likey.

Grizz (1:16:42)
W R R

Ice Bear (1:16:47)
Bless you, powerful bear roar. Bless you a lot.

Grizz (1:16:53)
So this beer is nowhere near as bad as what you're experiencing.

But this is by far the worst beer out of all the other ones I've had.

Ice Bear (1:17:06)
It's freshness can't save the day.

Grizz (1:17:10)
Yeah, it is, yeah. It's a...

You know, I've been like on this epiphany for a minute now. I don't think I like West Coast style IPAs.

I could tolerate them, I feel like I'm tolerating them less and less. And like.

Ice Bear (1:17:34)
Now that you mention it, the last few you've had, yeah, you've not been having fun with them.

Grizz (1:17:40)
Yeah, this, this one is the thing is that like, even with the freshness, the bitters outweigh everything and not in a way that's satisfying. So like Manhattan project in Dallas has a, has a West coast IPA that's has like a, like a lime zest, citrus zest kind of thing. And so that zestiness, like that little bite from that.

Ice Bear (1:18:07)
Okay.

Grizz (1:18:09)
Sour. just nullify some of that bitterness you get from West Coast styles. It was fucking great. Delicious, super great beer. And it's called this, the one that's called Hoppenheimer. Fantastic fucking West Coast style beer. I love it. When I think of West Coast too, I also think of like kind of like saltiness. The other one is dogfish head has that like salt like one or whatever the fuck it's called.

Ice Bear (1:18:35)
Yeah.

Grizz (1:18:35)
You

know I'm talking about? And it's like sea quench or sea quench or some shit. That's also not, that's also a good one too. Cause that saltiness like counteracts the bitters.

Because like, think West Coast IPA is what I don't like is that they're, they're not full body. They're very bright, but insanely bitter too.

Ice Bear (1:19:02)
Yeah, that tracks. That makes sense.

Grizz (1:19:03)
I don't mind bitters when it feels

fuller. And so it's weird when you have this brighty, like not beer taste mixed with heavy bitters.

Ice Bear (1:19:17)
Okay. Yeah, I'm on board with you.

Grizz (1:19:18)
Drinking this one it

Yeah drinking this one. I don't think it's a bad beer Because I'm drinking it and I'm like this this is it this doesn't taste bad But it's hard for me to swallow it And I'm like, I'm not having a good time while I'm drinking it

Ice Bear (1:19:38)
That's... I want to say I'm in the same spot, except this is a bad beer. There's nothing redeemable about this so far. I'm having a bad time, and I don't think anyone else would be having a good time. I'm trying to imagine who this is for.

I would really like to know what other things in Sri Lanka taste like.

Grizz (1:20:11)
That's fair.

Ice Bear (1:20:12)
Like is this the best in the country? Is that why it got exported? Like is this the peak Sri Lankan beer?

Because if so, what are the bad ones like?

Grizz (1:20:28)
That's true. That's really true. I'm just saying, you no red horse. That's all I'm saying.

back it up how it wouldn't allow.

Ice Bear (1:20:43)
Ugh.

Do I go in for more? Do I just pour this out? No, I've got to commit. I've got to commit for the people. Thailand is here to see me torture myself.

Grizz (1:21:03)
The biggest thing is how does Thailand feel about Sri Lanka?

Ice Bear (1:21:09)
You know, that's one of those things where our knowledge of like Southeast Asian geopolitical climate is ⁓ sorely lacking. What if they're at war right now? I wouldn't know. I'm not keeping up with it.

Grizz (1:21:24)
So they'd be happy to see you suffer with shitty ass Sri Lankan beer.

Ice Bear (1:21:31)
like this asshole deserves it for supporting them. ⁓

Grizz (1:21:35)
that

are like they're like, of course they fucking hate him because there's trash and they love us.

Ice Bear (1:21:40)
You

Grizz (1:21:42)
Everybody says bears got Thai taste buds.

Ice Bear (1:21:42)
I'm gonna...

I'm going to get ⁓ doesn't hold on is where's tiger from the Vietnam or is that Thailand where is that beer from do you know I'm talking about

There's a beer called Tiger that has like kind of a similar can.

Grizz (1:22:02)
Tiger, Thailand.

It's funny. I thought you meant I thought you meant like my tiger, but I'm pretty sure the beer you're talking about isn't from Thailand.

Ice Bear (1:22:06)
Is it?

and

outs from Singapore.

Grizz (1:22:17)
f-

Ice Bear (1:22:19)
Yeah, Singaporean beer brand launched in 1932.

because tiger i like like that's a good beer but this is ⁓ well shrelonk i'm sorry you're not

Ugh, should have kept this with Ceylon.

Little... little renaming humor for the kids. ⁓

Grizz (1:22:42)
Apparently some Taiwanese beers are

not Taiwanese, Thai beers, Chang beer, Leo beer and Singha beer.

Ice Bear (1:22:54)
I can say with certainty I've never had any of those.

Grizz (1:22:57)
Yeah, I've never seen any of them.

Ice Bear (1:22:59)
⁓

I also bet if you were to go to Bangkok right now, they're probably not drinking a lot of that. I bet they're drinking Heineken. I bet they're drinking Heineken and Sapporo and Cass.

Grizz (1:23:22)
Definitely Soboro. I think Soboro is a great beer.

Ice Bear (1:23:28)
pros good and you know what's nice about it it's very like

Christmas is the wrong word, but maybe that is the right word. It's always refreshing.

Grizz (1:23:46)
So here's the thing.

How do you get over the fact that like Sapporo and these are very similar to like Budweiser and Bud Light?

Ice Bear (1:24:03)
because I don't think they are, I disagree.

Grizz (1:24:07)
I think they share a lot of similarities. I think they're better, but they share lot of similarities.

Ice Bear (1:24:13)
I think the only similarity between Sapporo and say a Budweiser is color.

Grizz (1:24:25)
The thing with them though is they're actually pretty similar.

The reason why the similars are both rice based there. They're both rice. They're both rice based beers.

Ice Bear (1:24:38)
Get your, get your.

get your get your beer science out of my face. Don't you don't you come to me with facts and logic. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Grizz.

Grizz (1:24:51)
It's because the first time I, the first time I had

the support, was like, this is great. But then I had a support. Okay. And then I left out for a while and it got really warm. I still drank it. And I this shit tastes like fucking Budweiser. What the fuck? And then I started looking into it and I was like, holy shit. Anheuser Bush or rice beers. And I was like, Oh my fucking God.

Ice Bear (1:25:04)
Yeah.

Grizz (1:25:17)
So all these Japanese beers and all the beers that are rice based beers that are great. Budweiser and Bud Light are also rice based beers. like, I was like, holy shit, there is a similarity. So I drink them cold. I'm like, okay, I can see the similarity. I can see how they taste similar. They're not as, I would put Sapporo over both for sure. if you let a Sapporo get warm.

You start tasting that Budweiser.

Ice Bear (1:25:53)
You know, to be fair, I've never had a warm Sapporo. I've never had a warm Orion. I'm kind of tempted to buy one of each and just let them get room temp and see how I feel.

Grizz (1:26:10)
Yeah, like I, I genuinely love Orion.

Ice Bear (1:26:10)
Also do I do I buy a Budweiser just to test

it?

Grizz (1:26:16)
I mean, I did it on, I think I did it.

Ice Bear (1:26:16)
Hold on. Here's a thought.

Do we do domestic? Do we do domestics next week?

Grizz (1:26:26)
⁓

Ice Bear (1:26:30)
We've definitely never done them on the show at least.

Grizz (1:26:33)
That's true.

We can do we can do a poverty a poverty episode.

Ice Bear (1:26:40)
I think we should do a domestic week.

I think we should do it for lolz. What if we like them? What if we're just like, fuck yeah, Coors Light's the one. That's where it's at. ⁓

Grizz (1:26:47)
I'm down.

In my head there are certain domestics from like You know like again, I fuck with Coors banquet all day

Ice Bear (1:26:58)
All right.

Well, it's the champagne of beer. See, that doesn't count. You're not allowed to get that.

Grizz (1:27:06)
I don't, yeah.

Okay. Again, also too. I love me some Shinerbock. They ain't got them here though. Here in old Washington. Ooh. Actually it'd be fun because, because I've been seeing that Rainier beer here and it's, I'm assuming it's like the Lone, it's like the Washington Lone Star is what I'm assuming it is. Cause it looks like a Washington Lone Star. I'm down.

Ice Bear (1:27:11)
You're not allowed to get Coors Banquet.

Yeah. Yeah.

⁓ yeah.

Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, it is.

Grizz (1:27:36)
Next episode,

let's do it. I'll I'll I will get the brenier

And then whatever the fuck else like I see a Budweiser or a Bud Light or whatever. Budweiser.

Ice Bear (1:27:48)
Do we want to do... All right, here. You do the rainier. I'll do moose head in honor of your pops.

Grizz (1:27:57)
Yeah, my dad loves the moose head. I'm telling you, I swear to you.

Ice Bear (1:28:01)
and then

And then we'll both do a Budweiser.

Grizz (1:28:10)
All right, I'm down with that.

Ice Bear (1:28:13)
All right, there we go. Look at that planning. The first ever pre-planned episode. You saw it here. You saw it here first on Halloween Eve.

Grizz (1:28:14)
Let's just do this one thing.

Hello?

What's up, Dad?

Doing good

So I got, I was talking to my friend, the one that lives in Canada right now.

The one that lives in Canada, right? Yeah. Okay. So I was telling him about what was the beer that like, you know, when you're feeling like you wanted to have like a treat, right? ⁓ Something that like they were hit, you know, when you want to enjoy the beer, what was the beer?

I mean just like when I was a teenager like kind of like one of the beers that you would get like you know like when you wanted to like not when you're drinking like I like bush not like Budweiser so something you wanted to get when it was like a treat you know what I mean? Yeah. I know if I had my pick when I was young. was always, yeah, I drank so many. Heineken, Muscat. Can you say it? Heineken? No, not Heineken. What was the other one?

Moose head. Moose head. Yeah. The moose. Moose head and uh. I heard like what I'd like I want to explain about this. You know, the house, you know, football is what it was. Yeah. Cause I was telling him cause he's, cause he's in Canada and moose head over there is like, but light. You're doing this? Moose head in Canada is like, but light.

Ice Bear (1:29:51)
you

Grizz (1:30:12)
or like fucking, ⁓ or yeah, crazy, right? Cause I was telling him over here, it was like, it was expensive and it was like a treat.

Now that I guess everyone records in high school like the poor owner is sitting cheap over there over there. It's like the cheap as a girl. But actually, one of the other in their friends. Yeah. Yeah. So in Canada, Moosehead's like the cheap as beer over there. It's crazy, right?

⁓ I thought it was good. Cause he told me, cause apparently there's like multi, there's like a, ⁓ base, you know how like, ⁓ the God that has like the especial stuff. Apparently there's like a moose head like that too, but it's like a better one, but still it's considered like the base level shit.

probably yeah i'm already out of work i was just uh i was just calling i was talking to my friend right now so i was he was talking about moussa so i decided to call you and ask about it because he didn't believe me

Yeah, I thought when we say we'll, you know, cover the line. Everybody does. did or...

Like, I think it went out and I was going to the club. know what I mean? Yeah. I remember I tried. I liked it.

now I mean you know and I the dark and beers I got on drinking it but I stick to the couples with lightness for other reasons yeah yeah it's been pretty good but I'll ⁓ I'm ⁓ I want to call my my buddy right now so I'll I'll call you back pretty soon pops

All right. Okay. All right. Love you too. Bye bye. So they see

Ice Bear (1:32:39)
I love that too. Next week we should also get my dad on a call just to see what wild shit his brain comes up with.

Grizz (1:32:51)
Hahaha!

Ice Bear (1:32:52)
Apops, what

beer do you like? I like the beer that involves as much human suffering as possible.

Grizz (1:33:01)
the ⁓

Ice Bear (1:33:06)
I would be willing to bet if we called my dad with no, like unprompted, if I call him right now, he's gonna say.

shit. If I call him, because he's, he's going to think it's a test and he's going to think I'm trying to be sassy. He's going to say San Miguel. I can almost guarantee he would say San Miguel.

Grizz (1:33:32)
Hey.

Hey, that's a choice though.

Ice Bear (1:33:39)
And then if I doubled down and I said, on, what's really your favorite beer? He's going to say, ⁓ what would he say?

Corona. I bet that's how it would go. And neither of those are his favorite beer. His actual favorite beer. His actual favorite beer is like the, what is it called? Like the, the, the Nanny Bob, but like the light one.

Grizz (1:33:58)
Alright, get that guy.

Ha ha!

Ice Bear (1:34:18)
shit man I'm really I'm really tempted to test this I'm really tempted to test this fuck it let's let's see all right let's see if let's see if yes

Grizz (1:34:18)
an idea like.

Let's do it, let's do it. Let's end this episode with this, let's do it. Let's do the old, the bare forefathers. Look, it's perfect thing, because I talked

about how Moosehead was like the champagne of beers for my dad. All right, I'm telling you. That's confirmation there.

Ice Bear (1:34:34)
Yes, yes we did. All right, hold on because my mom's going to answer.

My mom's going to answer so I need to I need to we'll have her on the call too.

Can you hear that?

Grizz (1:34:55)
Yeah. Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:34:55)
Yay, nay. OK.

Watch me get ghosted by my parents. I can see that happening too. it is late here. I didn't even look at the time.

Grizz (1:35:11)
Oh, yeah, that's true.

The part of it might it's late for my. Is a from my dad to my dad's a fucking. Character again, my dad's doing yard work right now in Texas when it is nearly all when it is 940 PM. My dad's doing yard work right now. ⁓

Ice Bear (1:35:36)
hold on. We could play another game. We could play another game with someone I know that's awake right now. All right. Do I call? Do I call my the beloved seal, my wife, ask her her favorite beer, and she's just going to groan aggressively in the phone. I think that's what we do. All right. Bear with me. Bear with me. All right.

Grizz (1:35:43)
Let's do it.

Let's do it.

Ice Bear (1:36:11)
Can you also hear the Jurassic Park noise in the background?

Grizz (1:36:16)
No, your microphone's too good.

Ice Bear (1:36:18)
Why are you calling me? Because you're now live. You're on the air. You're on the episode. We need you. We need you. right. I'm seeing how well I know you. What is your favorite beer?

Grizz (1:36:24)
You

Ice Bear (1:36:37)
I thought I thought you were gonna groan aggressively. I didn't think you're gonna give an actual answer. That was very generous of you. Are you being are you being kind for the show?

All right, very good. thank you for your service. I love you. Goodbye.

Well, that wraps another one, boys.

Grizz (1:37:10)
Let's do a.

think with, I think with the tiger, the tiger does like her some epas, but she also feels like she talks like she's fucking geriatric and she, my Lord. She talks like she's like 60 and then the doctor told her that she has alcohol or anything that's not anything that her body's falling apart, even though she's very physically fit and everything, but she, she acts like she's a fucking geriatric person.

She also has IPA. I don't know what she's going to say.

Ice Bear (1:37:49)
⁓ time

out, time out, time out, time out, papa, papa ice bear calling.

Grizz (1:37:56)
⁓

Ice Bear (1:37:59)
Hello?

Hello? Did you mean to call me? I meant to call you. right. ⁓ My question is, is dad still awake? Yes. Can I speak with Paul?

Grizz (1:38:04)
speaker.

Ice Bear (1:38:17)
He's gonna be live on the air.

He's live on the air, we're recording an episode right now.

Yeah!

Grizz (1:38:27)
Ha ha ha!

Ice Bear (1:38:31)
Hello, Paul, you're live on the air. You're live on the air with me and Old Grizz. Now, I predicted what you would say in advance. What is your favorite beer?

Damn, you went right for the interesting. Okay, if you were if you were feeling fancy, if you're feeling fancier than Budweiser, what is your next favorite beer? I should have known that. All right. Well, I failed. I don't know you and I failed as a son and a person. I thought you were gonna say San Miguel.

Okay, so it was just a timing thing.

Well, there we go. Okay. So it's just purely time. Purely the passage of the years has removed San Miguel from your memory banks. That's right. That's right. Very good. But as of present day, the ranking is Budweiser followed by Killian's Irish Red. Yes. All right. Well, you're a man of the people, Dad. I thank you for your service.

No, you're the man of the people, not the Killians.

All right. Good night. Love you, dad.

Bye. What a journey. What a journey that was.

Grizz (1:40:08)
You

So he went from a Kuya to a fucking IRA fucking guy that gets down. Hell yeah.

Ice Bear (1:40:23)
⁓ What a time.

Grizz (1:40:23)
⁓ Icepaw is a fucking...

is a unit.

Ice Bear (1:40:27)
Absolute unit. ⁓ I'm gonna have to ask my mom about I've never seen him drink a Budweiser, not once. But maybe he does now. Maybe he does now.

Grizz (1:40:39)
Really? maybe he does.

Maybe as like, you know.

higher to foraging, you just want to get what's readily available to you.

Ice Bear (1:40:49)
how he how he

how he self medicates the Alzheimer's.

Grizz (1:40:56)
Look, it's like my dad. So it's just so funny when I think about it. Cause like, when I think about the time my dad's in his thirties and he's like, when I was young, which was when he was in his twenties, he would be a drink Budweiser, but then it got too much for him. So he wished a Bud Light.

Ice Bear (1:41:08)
Yeah.

Grizz (1:41:14)
And then he switched to bush because again, but sheep. Cause again, I this before an episode, but Budweiser means because you deserve what every individual should enjoy regularly as Budweiser.

I don't know if that's actually real, but that's what was told to me by my dad. So I believe it.

Ice Bear (1:41:38)
That's like

Adidas being everyday I dream about sports. Neither of these things are real. But I like that. I like it.

Grizz (1:41:46)
Bush is,

Bush is because you save cash, homie.

Ice Bear (1:41:56)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Grizz (1:42:00)
My dad would spend ten dollars and come back with like six fucking quarts of beer. ⁓

Ice Bear (1:42:08)
my god.

Grizz (1:42:10)
I remember being like, ⁓ shit. I remember being in high school and we bought a case of Bush courts, like 12 courts of Bush, right? 12 forties.

$14.

$14.

Ice Bear (1:42:31)
That's bananas.

Grizz (1:42:35)
Downhilling me and my three friends. Shitface drunk. In high school. Off a fuckin' 14 bucks got all of us fuckin' wasted.

Ice Bear (1:42:42)
Sure.

⁓ God damn it. ⁓ Sri Lanka, get better beer. It's so bad. It's so bad.

Grizz (1:43:01)
And don't

people die in mountains in Sri Lanka?

Ice Bear (1:43:05)
Probably to avoid this beer. Like they're probably climbing them and leaping off so they don't. Sri Lanka is an island as far as I know, so I really doubt it. But let's investigate, shall we?

Grizz (1:43:10)
Are the Himalayas in Sri Lanka? Or like, go by Sri Lanka?

Isn't there a big mountain?

Isn't there a big mountain in Sri Lanka?

Ice Bear (1:43:27)
If I will, I'll find out. I not that I know about. But that doesn't mean anything. I could be wrong. I could be misremembering things Sri Lanka, historically known as Ceylon, an island country in South Asia in the Indian Ocean, southwest of the Bay of Bengal. ⁓ Yeah, so definitely not Himalayas. But let's find out if there's a mountain. How do we want to do that Sri Lanka highest point? Yes.

Let's do that. Highest.

yes. Pedudu Talagala, previously known as Mount Pedro, is the highest mountain in Sri Lanka. 8,000 feet. So, I mean, that's a reasonably high mountain.

Grizz (1:44:26)
You know what I was thinking?

Ice Bear (1:44:26)
smack dab in

the center of the island? What were you thinking of?

Grizz (1:44:30)
Damn.

I was confusing Sri Lanka with Nepal.

Ice Bear (1:44:38)
Now that tracks because that would be Yes, okay now now now the Himalayas thing makes sense

Grizz (1:44:48)
I was kinda close, almost, not really, a little bit.

Ice Bear (1:44:52)
I mean, they're both in Asia, so you got that part.

Grizz (1:44:57)
And they're both like what, like southeastern Asia? Southern?

Ice Bear (1:44:57)
They're both and they're both nearish. They're both near

India. So that's yeah, you get bonus points. both they're both

Grizz (1:45:05)
Yeah. Because they're

South Asian with the ethnic Indian flair. they, you Yeah.

Ice Bear (1:45:17)
I like your commitment to this. I approve.

Grizz (1:45:24)
You know.

Ice Bear (1:45:24)
Give me your rankings for these three things you've had tonight.

Grizz (1:45:33)
All right. I ended. All right. Actually, you know what? I started high. Fresh fluff. A beautiful B minus. No, a beautiful B plus. B plus. This ends up being B plus. I enjoyed every bit of it. I loved it. It's awesome. Citrus liquor. You were great. You are a B minus. You were not bad, but you were not remarkable. You were a decent beer.

mirrored realities, as much as I love your can, you are a C at best. I will give you a C. And the only reason why you were giving you a C is because I still have this little bit and I took a drink of it while you were kind of warm and you were actually pretty good. So you get a C.

Ice Bear (1:46:22)
Okay. ⁓

Grizz (1:46:25)
I'm just telling you, cum water would not

treat me like this, Oregon.

Ice Bear (1:46:32)
⁓ Skokie tail killer killer cupcake panda. Neither of you led me astray. You're both delicious a minus bruskies. I enjoyed both of you immensely. ⁓ And like Icarus, I flew close too close to the sun. Because when I got to lion our little lad from Sri Lanka, the extra strong stout that couldn't

It's an F. It's not good. I don't recommend anyone drink it ever. It's bad. It's a bad, bad, bad naughty boy beer.

Grizz (1:47:12)
I wonder how bad it is, I genuinely want you to try that fucking shitty ass Ukrainian beer.

that I had to pour out.

Ice Bear (1:47:22)
send me the name of it and I'll try find it.

I don't remember it, if you can find it, or tell me which episode it was in and I'll go back and watch it.

Grizz (1:47:35)
Yeah, I'll find it. I hate it.

Ice Bear (1:47:38)
Well, So... ⁓ Yeah.

Go Jays, they're in the World Series.

Grizz (1:47:50)
J's all the way. Birds are gonna soar. I swear to God that the Jesus to the Dodgers I'm fucking throwing shit. Look as much as Joe Hay is great and all the stuff and motherfuckers a robot and yeah I get it everything and your cherry blossom teas, the jerseys were cool. I don't need the fucking Dodgers and shit. J's better win.

Ice Bear (1:48:14)
Look, here's the thing. I want the Jays to win with all my heart. I'm rooting for them. Even if they go down 0-3, I'm going to be rooting as hard as I can game four. ⁓

Otani is not a person. is a weird booster gold robot from the future mixed with alien genetics meant to destroy us.

Grizz (1:48:34)
There's a fucking cyborg. Do the last game.

dude the last game fucking red dick. my God. I was so I was at all you can eat sushi in Pasadena with the tiger and her brother watching the game.

Dude is a fucking monster. Like it doesn't make sense. It genuinely doesn't make like, I hate the Dodgers, but Shohei is fucking like, he makes me, he makes hating the Dodgers harder. I'll give him that.

Ice Bear (1:49:03)
Okay, here's the thing.

He really does. Like 10Ks, know, damn, like impressive. 10Ks in a homer, wow. 10Ks in two homers, just bananas. 10Ks, three homers with one of them like launched to the fucking moon.

I was, I didn't, I didn't know what to do with it. My brain could not process that much going on in one game. It doesn't seem fair. Like it seems like he's the human equivalent of that guy that had a game shark and like would invite you over to play after school and like his character was invincible. And you're just like, I'm doing really good, but I'm losing. Like what's happening right now? Like Otani's just a human game shark.

Grizz (1:50:06)
Yeah.

That's the perfect way to put them. That's literally what he is.

I will say, chewy aside, that's bringer dinger. Fucking absolutely amazing.

Ice Bear (1:50:27)
That was the most just poetic way to end a game seven. It was so perfect because especially for those that didn't watch the series, ⁓ our first in the lineup, George Springer, had his knee just absolutely blown to smithereens just a bit prior in Seattle. And it was questionable whether or not he would even play game six and seven.

And so not only does he come in and play on the weekend at home in Toronto, but game seven with all the pressure on the world, two men on, he just crushes one into the stands and just brings it home and, and, and that sends them to the, to the world serious. So it was beautiful. It was, was, was. Yep. Yep.

Grizz (1:51:19)
because that was what the seventh ending, right?

Ice Bear (1:51:24)
And it was was to that point, like the the momentum there, it felt I was nervous, like it felt like Seattle's there for the taking.

Grizz (1:51:34)
I thought honestly, thought Seattle was going to say here's the thing. like J's had the strongest office, like straight J's had the most wins in the series at that point going into going into the thing. Like as like for, for the year, J's had the most wins. Right. So J's were coming in strong. Yeah. J J's were like coming in strong, but Seattle, you know, they had the underdog tail. Like they were, they were f****g scrappy and they were doing damn good this year.

Ice Bear (1:51:45)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, they were the one scene.

Grizz (1:52:04)
Like when I mean, Texans fan, like Texas got put out pretty early. So I was like, you know, it is what it is. I'm in Seattle right now. And so like having all the hype and stuff. I'll make, okay, cool. Like they're taking it like, like it's, it's great. Like, like I got huge momentum right now. The city's fucking electrified. You feel the energy everywhere, but the J's are still fucking monsters.

Ice Bear (1:52:25)
Well, I mean...

After that 15-ending game with Detroit, mean, it felt like, like if you're writing a script, this feels like the team, if you're writing a script. But obviously, like reality isn't a movie, sometimes shit, yeah, sometimes shit gets thrown in the works, and that happened to be the Jays this year, so.

Grizz (1:52:35)
Yeah.

Yeah. This is Friday Night Lights. this is this. Yeah.

Yeah. And so the thing with the J's, it was like, when they went up against the J's, I was like, I don't know if they're taking this to be honest. And then like going through the series, I was like, I don't know. Well, when we got to game six and game seven, was like, it was a toss up.

It genuinely felt like a toss up by the time we had to game six and get seven. So like springer to come out at the end.

Damn.

Cause I stopped watching in the sixth inning.

Ice Bear (1:53:36)
I'm gonna go out on limb and assume you've been saying things for the last 30 seconds. And I have been able to hear none of them.

Grizz (1:53:42)
Yes. was,

yeah. Okay. Go back over the thing. So I was saying that going into game six, game seven, it was still felt like a toss up to me and going in the watching game seven. stopped at the, I stopped watching around the fifth, sixth inning. So like,

to stop watching and then get your text messages and then looking back at that and going back and see what Springer did. I fucking blew my mind.

So.

Ice Bear (1:54:20)
Yeah, no, it was,

was, uh, the springer dinger was incredible. It was, it was, was just, it was, was a perfect, it was a baseball fan's dream. Unless you're Seattle fan, then it was a nightmare. It was super fun. It was super fun.

Grizz (1:54:39)
The energy drain from like all of my mutuals in the city. The next day was palpable. And it was so funny as one of my coworkers again, because one of my coworkers told you he's second job. He's he works media for the Mariners. And another one of my coworkers is from New York and the diehard Yankees fan. Right.

Ice Bear (1:54:48)
no.

Yeah, I can imagine.

Mm-hmm.

⁓ yeah.

Grizz (1:55:05)
till the next day.

Ice Bear (1:55:06)
So mad at the Jays this year.

Grizz (1:55:09)
Yeah, so the next day he comes in with his because he always wore Yankees hat. He wore a murdered Yankees hat. He hasn't worn it for like a while now. Ever since the Yankees got knocked out he hasn't worn it. The next day after the Mariners lost he had his Yankees hat. He walked in with Yankees hat.

And my other guy that works for the better he was like, now you are saying ⁓ now you just trying to put salt in the wound.

Certainly the energy suck from the city after the mayor's loss was insane. Which is probably good that they lost because I think I genuinely think like the city would be burning a little bit if they won.

Ice Bear (1:56:00)
They would have set the cat pill on fire.

Grizz (1:56:02)
And like, you know, I'm close enough to cap hill, why I don't want that to happen because it's gonna be inconvenient.

Ice Bear (1:56:07)
Yeah, keep it to a dull roar, please.

Well.

Let me tell you.

It was what the kids call a hoot and a half.

Grizz (1:56:33)
It was beautiful. Bringing on the old Papa Bears.

Ice Bear (1:56:41)
Yeah, that was nice. That was fun.

Grizz (1:56:41)
I'm glad we're

able to go full circle to where you can see... my lord. I'm glad you're able to go full circle.

Ice Bear (1:56:50)
You

Grizz (1:56:54)
Well, you can see you heard firsthand that the old moose head.

Lore is real.

Ice Bear (1:57:01)
The the

moose head is now confirmed. Yep, moose head confirmed.

Grizz (1:57:13)
So with that, beers rated, Papa bears talk too.

Jays given their flowers. How do we end this in a strong and powerful way?

Ice Bear (1:57:38)
strong and powerful. I'll show you strong and powerful. I can I can I can reveal my my cardinal bears in that I pretended to finish my beer when in fact there was a little bit left that I was dodging and I'm going to drink it right now for you Thailand.

Grizz (1:58:06)
BLEH!