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It's probably the biggest thing that's
happening on the planet right now, but
it's the most hidden thing in the world.
In the month of December, the energies
have really skyrocketed and it's
something that's happening on a
cosmic level as well as a local level.
The concept of I am points to our
true nature as part of God or creator
or infinite universal intelligence.
So stating I am connects us to
that source when we are using that
statement with pure intention.
And whatever we say after I am is
empowered or perhaps activated.
We
are in fact, uh, unlimited is just
how we decide to limit ourselves
in our actions and our thinking.
Everything is thoughts and so it's
limiting your capabilities when
you don't use the right words.
Words are power.
It's a process of enlightenment, and
all the avatars went through this
process to get to where they were.
Mankind is now at the point of
evolving into this whole higher
level.
Hello and welcome to So
Unique, I'm Anu Peter.
My goal with So Unique is to assist you
in uncovering, nurturing and forging your
own personal spiritual path, A path that
resonates intimately with who you are and
with your unique signature and essence as
you navigate your life on planet earth.
In this episode of So Unique, I'm having a
conversation with a dear friend Jerry Gin.
Jerry is someone who always
inspires and amazes me.
You could even say that.
He pretty much blows my mind.
I am more of a creative, artistic type.
Well, Jerry is a scientist, but the
ar, the arena where we meet is the mind
and heart expanding world of healing,
spirituality, the nature of reality.
I. And the evolution of personal
and collective consciousness.
Jerry's diverse background includes
50 years in the areas of healthcare,
pharmaceuticals, diagnostics, and
biotechnology, and 20 years in the pursuit
of research in the arena of what he calls
mind being, which encompasses the study
of consciousness and the nature of reality
from the physical to the spiritual.
Jerry has co-founded and held executive
roles from CEO to inventor in a number
of successful companies over the years.
He's also done research for the National
Institutes of Health, and he is board
certified by the American Association
for Clinical Chemistry and the American
Society of Clinical Pathologists.
Jerry holds a PhD in biochemistry
from uc, Berkeley, an MBA from
Loyola College, and a BS in chemistry
from the University of Arizona.
On top of all of that, Jerry is
the chairman of the Foundation
for Mind being Research.
Otherwise known as FMBR, which is an
organization that bridges the arenas of
science, consciousness, and spirituality.
And in the last four years, Jerry has
published two books that offer the
opportunity to learn about his deep dives
on his path as what he calls a seeker.
The first book is The Seeker and the
Teacher of Lights on the Teachings of,
uh, I'm gonna say this correctly if I can.
Yo, Joki Wich, and the mystery of 3, 6, 9.
And the second book is Science, subtle
Energies and Spirituality, A Path To I Am.
Wow, that's a lot of credentials.
But I wanted to share all of that
because I think it presents Jerry
as a person of exceeding integrity
and intelligence with a pragmatic
background in earth-based science.
Which presents a grounded and fascinating
contrast to his continually unfolding
work and research as a seeker in
the more esoteric and subtle arenas
of spirituality, consciousness,
and the nature of our universe.
So with that, I want to
say welcome to Jerry Gin.
Thank you, ANU.
Uh, I'm happy to be here, uh, today.
I am happy to be able to, uh, give
forth, uh, whatever information I
can to help people on their path.
So I look forward to this, uh,
interview and this podcast.
So appreciate what you're doing.
Wonderful.
Thank you, Jerry.
It's so great to have you here, and
thank you so much for joining us.
There's so much I'd like to ask you about,
but to touch on it all would take hours
literally, if not days of discussion.
So I'm going to focus on some key
points that I think will be of great
value to sole unique listeners.
First thing I want to ask you about
is the experience you had when you
turned age 60, when you discovered
that you could feel and see energies.
I think this all started in a yoga class.
Would you please tell us more?
Sure.
It
was a very interesting,
uh, journey that I had.
Uh, I went to a yoga class and, uh, the
person teaching the class said, we'll
start off with a little bit of Qigong.
And I didn't know what Qigong
really was at that point in time.
Uh, I heard about it, uh, but the
first thing you did was to, uh,
generate she, and you did that by
rotating the hands around your body.
And that builds the energy of Q And
then he said, uh, this guy Herriman,
uh, who's a good friend of mine,
uh, feel the central column of Qi.
So the central column is right
through the center of the body.
And so you put your hands one hand
above, one hand below, uh, the other.
And he said, feel the energy.
And I did.
I moved my hands up and down and I
felt the energy, which is very strange
'cause I had never done that before.
And it was there palatable.
And if you let the energy build, it
becomes like a weight between the
hands and if you push down on the
weight, you feel it being pushed down.
So it was a very enlightening experience.
Then Guy had some huge quartz
crystals, uh, in his, uh, studio.
And I put my hands, uh, next
to the quartz crystals and felt
the energy from the quartz.
Again, it was the same type
of energy coming through.
It is chi is subtle energy, uh, or
whatever name one wants to call it.
And there have been many, many names,
uh, prana, et cetera, et cetera.
Uh, but that's how I got
going and feeling that energy.
I said, I've got to know more about it.
I read everything about, uh,
energies and subtle energies.
I. I spent 20 years researching
that whole subject matter and have
delved into virtually every single
facet of, um, energies and this
other field that, uh, whether you
call it prana, chi, subtle energies.
And, and I'll, and when we're
speaking, I'll be speaking to the, in
the terminology of subtle energies.
It's a basis of virtually
everything behind matter, behind
everything else that, that is there.
Wonderful.
Thank you for sharing that, Jerry.
That's fascinating and really enlightening
really to, I think, to understand how we
all have access to this, this sense of
being able to feel and perhaps see energy.
Can you tell us a little bit also about
your experiences of seeing energy?
Yes.
Uh, when I start feeling energies, I
wondered if I could actually see it.
And it's nothing that, uh,
I looked for in the past.
I said, okay, I, if I put my hands
in front of me, will I see the, the
energy that I feel when I felt it.
So I went to a blank wall and put my hands
in front of my, uh, in front of the wall.
And then I moved my hands up and down.
And as I moved my hands up and
down, I saw the lines of, of
that energy that were there.
Uh, and yeah, if you're not looking
for it, you just see right through
it and it's not there, but it, it
is there if you're looking for it.
And I find that lots of people have that
ability to see, see that it's nothing new.
It's something that probably most people,
if they're looking for it will see.
And then later on, under
dim light, I could see.
The rays shooting out of people,
especially around the head area.
If I look at them in a slightly
darkened room, I see the rays
shooting out of everybody.
Uh, you see the pictures of the saints
with rays shooting out while they're
there for a reason, because people see it.
So I'm not unique.
Everyone sees it if they look for it.
It's just a matter of practicing and
seeing, uh, and understanding that
yes, you have all sorts of abilities
and that's when we later talk about
I am, uh, that I am has lots of
abilities and your creative force.
And that's just one of the, one
of the few things that you can do.
And I talk a little bit about subtle
energies and how you can test for it or,
uh, play with it and do things with it.
It's all same stuff.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
Yeah, that is again, just fascinating
and, um, we'll get into this more
later, but I think that these kinds
of experiences are being, well,
well, they've always been available.
They are becoming even more
readily accessed, I would
say, with what's going on.
Um, so of course, as you mentioned
in your first book, Western Science
was not equipped to teach you
about what you were observing.
When you were seeing and feeling those
energies, how did you bridge that gap?
And was it challenging for you as a
scientist and business executive to
start walking in such esoteric arenas?
I've always been curious about
the nature of things and uh, no.
It was very natural to me because
I've always been interested in how
things really work, and I understood
that since I am, as one of my.
Personalities as scientist, uh, I've
been through the whole gamut of physics,
chemistry, and understand all that.
And I knew that the answer
was not in the solid sciences.
'cause the solid sciences do not
address the nature of things.
Yes, they'll talk about electrons and
things of that nature, but when you
really delve into it and say, what
are these things, no one really knows.
And so I was interested more in what
things really, really are, rather
than the words that people give to
things, just because that's the best
description that they have of things.
But that doesn't explain anything.
Uh, and that's what I found.
And so I therefore, I knew that I
had to look at things and look at
it in another way, and I knew that.
Probably the yogis and others,
Tibetan monks, et cetera, saw things
that I don't see, uh, or didn't see.
I need to get into that realm to
build able to experience it all.
But I read all the books that were out
there at that, uh, time in at least
all the things I could get my hands on.
I, I learned a heck of a
lot, uh, by doing that.
I, I spent 20 years looking at things
and still looking at things because
it's still evolving and we all evolve.
That's one of our purposes.
Absolutely.
There's always more.
It's, which can be daunting, but
it's also incredibly exciting.
Right.
We, we don't, I don't think we ever get to
figure it all out perhaps in one lifetime.
So what was your early, uh, life like?
Were you brought up in a religious
household or did you have inklings of
spiritual curiosities at that time?
No, we really, really didn't
talk about, uh, religions.
My mother, uh, Chinese born in
China and so hit, she did some
chants and things of that nature.
Never understood what she was saying.
Uh, there was just chance
and didn't follow up on it.
When I got a little older, um,
uh, I said, well, I gotta find
out what this is all about.
And, you know, everyone goes to
church and everyone says, oh, I'm
a Presbyterian or this or that,
and, and I was none of those.
And therefore I decided to read and study.
All the religions.
I studied Christianity.
I memorized the greatest story ever told.
Uh, I studied Buddhism.
Uh, what was the Moham Muslim religion?
What were the Hindu religions?
So I looked at everything
and I was done looking.
I went through some lot of experiences
of really getting myself to believe,
but then the religions typically had
things that didn't resonate with me.
Uh, if you don't believe in this,
you'll go to hell, uh, or those
are bad guys 'cause they don't
believe in what we do believe in.
And I thought about that.
I said.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
And I sort of just dropped out of religion
altogether at that point in time because
I couldn't believe that, oh, you're gonna
kill off half the population, or half
the population isn't gonna go to hell
because they don't believe in something
and this do things to make them believe.
And that just would not resonate with me.
And so I changed at that point in time.
I've changed the other way now and I'll
probably get into that later, uh, because
I think I've now understand what all this
is about, at least to a certain degree.
Oh, Jerry, we're so much on
the same page with all of this.
I'm with you.
I was brought up in the Christian
Church and uh, as soon as I was able to
make my own choices after I left high
school, I really never looked back.
I think there was some value in some
of it, and I certainly recognize that
for many people it does have value.
Um, but for me, that was not my path.
And, um, really I have my parents to
thank for honoring that my path went in
a different direction than that path.
And interestingly, in the years following
that, my parents' paths changed as well.
Well, I, I should mention, uh, one
thing before we go on to the next
question in, in the sense that I think
the religions did teach something.
Uh, and if you really look at the words
of the teachings, uh, the Christ factor,
uh, for example, it's not necessarily what
the religions teach in, in the churches,
but it teaches you that who you are.
And if you listen to the words, the
avatars, I. Taught that, but the people
following that did not teach that and
therefore did not empower the people
and therefore the religious folks took
the power to themselves versus letting
people know that they are the power versus
the avatars taught that they are it.
But it's just that the message
didn't come through and for many,
it's still not coming through of who
everyone really is.
Yes, Jerry, thank you for sharing that.
Even Jesus said, everything I can
I have done, you can do as well.
And I think that's in the Bible,
but it's often overlooked or
not really taken seriously.
I would say so.
Um.
I recall that one of your explorations
since I've known you, was studying
the meditation technique and
spiritual practice of crea yoga.
Can you tell us about your experience
of crea yoga and perhaps of discovering
the mystical, incredible, maybe
magical five pointed white star?
Yeah, that's an interesting story.
Um, yeah.
After reading, uh, from Za Yogananda's
book, uh, the autobiography
of, of, uh, Yogi, uh, I decided
to learn, uh, about CRE yoga.
And so I went to the temple.
Uh, I took.
They, I said, ah, I wanna learn crea yoga.
And they said, no, you can't do that.
Uh, you have to do, go through
this, uh, one year of exercise.
And if after that time, if we feel you're
qualified, we'll teach you crea yoga.
So you spent a year meditating
and learning, going through
the basics of meditation.
And I had already done the
transcendental meditation and things
of that nature, uh, before, but I
went through the exercises and, uh.
It's the probably the last four months
of the exercises, uh, that really
gets you deep into the meditation
and you're forced to, before they'll
teach you crea yoga, you have to go
through about four hours of meditation
per day in that last four months.
And they teach you a mechanism where
you in fact, listen to yourself,
you listen to your chakras,
uh, and you listen to each one.
Uh, and you in fact start hearing
the music of the Cha Chakras.
Each chakra has its own tones.
And you start hearing that.
At that point, I had not yet, uh,
seen the five pointed star, but as I
completed that and they taught me, uh,
therefore I was eligible to take the
CHOA yoga and I took that, uh, which is.
Again, forms of, of breathing
and exercises while you're
meditating and, and chanting.
Uh, I did that for a little bit and
they're asking me, do you see the star?
And at that point I said, yeah,
I'm sorry to see something.
And uh, they, it was in fact
a five pointed star that you
see when your eyes are closed.
And so you're connecting with
your, uh, pineal gland and
you're seeing something else.
You're seeing light and other
times you're just seeing light.
And the light sort of shifts, uh,
from white, uh, to sort of, for me,
uh, slightly golden green type of, of
coloration that that's in the background.
So that's just the part of
the awakening of the self.
Uh, and so that's what crea
yoga gets you to, but doing the
practices of it does get you into
a deep, deep state of who you are.
And so that, that practice
is a very good practice.
And the stuff I do with JohE now
gets me into the, that state, uh,
versus four hours or three hours
or two hours or one hour, I can get
to that state, uh, within minutes.
Uh, and that's what the affirmations do.
'cause now you're linking
up with your essence.
Thank you so much for sharing that.
Yeah.
That's a good example of, of
one thing that comes out of, I
think that's Hinduism, isn't it?
Um, the teachings of Yogananda.
Yeah, it's a yogi practice and, uh,
the gurus that are there, there are
some amazing folks, uh, that have
lived and are living, uh, that can
do all sorts of amazing things.
And debe teach one form of things,
uh, of learnings, and the yogis
have slight variations on that.
But, uh, it all comes back to getting
you to be who you are and also to
be the loving person that, and the
divine person that everyone is.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
So let's take a bit of a quantum leap
forward now to a concept that you have
mentioned already and you discuss in
depth in your books and presentations.
The concept of I am, and if you'd
indulge me for a moment, I'd like
to see if I can encapsulate what the
concept of I am is pointing to based
on what I've read in your first book
and on my own studies, and I wanna
see if I've got it right or at least
partly correct from your perspective.
So the concept of I am points to our
true nature as part of God or creator
or infinite universal intelligence.
The fact that each of us has what could
be called inherent divine lineage,
and there's the ego's version of I
Am, which says things like, I am a
business person, or I'm a chef, or
I'm a college student, and so on.
But that's not our truest essence,
our true essence outside of the egoic
mind and outside of, or in addition
to inhabiting a physical body.
Simply that we exist, we are, and thus
from an individualized context, I am.
And so if everything is part of infinite
universal intelligence or God, then
I am is connecting us to our inherent
abilities with which we are imbued
by intrinsically being a part of
that infinite universal intelligence.
So stating I am connects us to
that source when we are using that
statement with pure intention.
And whatever we say after I am is
empowered or perhaps activated.
Does this synchronize with how you
would describe the concept of I am.
You said it perfectly.
You said it better than I could
ever say it.
Probably.
Well, thank you.
I, I, I am is, uh, your essential self.
Everyone is, I am and everyone
is eternal as a result.
And it's the perfect description
of who we really are.
We're not just the teacher
scientists, et cetera.
These are what we're
experiencing in this lifetime.
But the eternal you that you connect
to, uh, when you do affirmations
or get deep into meditation or just
say, I am with capital I, capital
A am, uh, you're now linked to
that, uh, essence of who you are.
So you're stating it perfectly.
Wonderful.
Thank you.
Oh, good.
I'm so glad.
Thank you.
So that brings me now
to your meeting with.
Uh, the healer.
And I think what could als, he could
also be called a spiritual teacher.
Yohe.
Wich.
Can you please share a little bit about
how you met Yohe, what he has taught
you, and how those teachings have opened
up your understanding of our world?
Well, Yohe is an amazing, amazing,
uh, man, and, uh, we met in
a number of different ways.
Uh, I started learning dowsing and uh,
uh, when we were doing spoon bending
and when I joined the Dowsing group,
uh, uh, and FMBR introduced me to
that, and we were doing spoon bending.
Uh, JohE was there and he was, uh,
one of the guys teaching, uh, bit of
dowsing, uh, and, uh, other things.
And I was also, what he
was also doing was, uh.
Going on Saturdays to Starbucks and he
donate his time, uh, for healing, for
letting people learn about who they are.
And, uh, I went to one of his
sessions, they're just free sessions.
He just is there.
He says, I'll be there if he need
any help, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll be
there to help you in any way possible.
And what he's doing was teaching
about, uh, who you are, about I
am, and getting people to feel that
energy, uh, and uh, therefore connect
with that harmony that is there.
And I went to one of those and then I
kept seeing him at the FMBR meetings
'cause he knew I was going there.
And we learned that they
were each on the same path.
Uh, he was, uh, he knew I am and I knew
the essence of who I am is, and, uh.
We decided that, uh, your
message of getting affirmations
out into the world is ideal.
It is a way to get the message
out because it connects people
immediately with, uh, their essence.
And you can do that in minutes.
And so we met and chatted
and became good friends.
Yes, he does sound like an
amazing soul, an amazing being.
I, I hope to have the
opportunity to meet him someday.
I saw him on your presentation
that I attended last week, but
let's back up a little bit here
because you mentioned Dowsing and,
um, uh, what was the other thing?
First, uh, if you could tell us
about Dowsing just to, so our
listeners understand what, what
we're talking about dowsing.
People know about it, um, in various ways.
Uh, people will say, ah,
I know what a dower is.
They find water, the witches that find
water with a stick and stick moves
points to the ground when there's,
uh, water underneath, that's one form
of dowsing and it's actually one form
of radio seizure, which people don't
understand that that's really what it is.
'cause people know the word dowsing
and dowsing for the most part, that the
thing that dowsers do is mental dowsing.
And they'll ask a question, uh, and
try to get a yes or no answer to that.
That's mental dowsing.
What I'm doing is another
step, uh, removed from that.
Uh, yes.
I think mental dowsing is good
and does work in many, many cases.
And I do think the mind can
overcome your dowsing ability.
So you can point if you really
want something, the answer can
be yes, uh, based upon desire.
But what I'm teaching is, is different.
Um, it's a form of dowsing called
radius seizure, which is physical
dowsing and physical dowsing.
What you're really doing is coming
into residence with the energies that
are around you, that are in things
that are in virtually everything.
So what you're doing with radi seizure
is getting that message through
from the right brain, which doesn't
communicate well with the left brain.
The left brain is where all the senses
are, see, hear, taste, et cetera.
And that's where you operate from.
But from the right brain,
that message isn't there.
Uh, it's part of your intuition.
Uh, if you sta at a a, if you're
a male steering a female across
the street, the female will turn
the head and look towards you.
'cause the, the right brain
cease that, and therefore
they'll pay attention to that.
The conscious mind just turns
ahead unconsciously and,
and, uh, it's, it's there.
Well, the same tr is
true with radius seizure.
What you're doing is training yourself.
To come into resonance with the
energies of virtually everything.
And then you pinpoint the energies
of anything specifically by saying,
ah, I want the know, the, uh, the
resonance with this color blue, or
this, uh, energy of white, or whatever
it is that you want, or the sound.
And you, you have that intention there
of coming into resonance with it.
And you find the wavelength based
upon the length of string, uh,
on the pendulum, which gives you
the resonance to that energy.
And it's that length of string
and that resonance that connects
you with that energy, and now
you're in tune with that energy.
And that's different from,
uh, I want to listen to the
energy or make my pendulum go.
The pendulum does its automatic thing.
When the the string length is correct,
it automatically goes clockwise.
'cause clockwise is resonance.
Uh, it's the, uh,
entropy aspect of things.
Uh, creation is ne entropy
decay is, is entropy.
And when you're in tune and in resonance
with it, that means it's something that's
good for you or it's something that
you can tune in on and recognize, and
therefore the pendulum goes clockwise.
So you're not doing any
mental dowsing at all.
You're feeling the energy that comes
in and you're letting the right brain
make the decision of when to when the
pendulum could, should go clockwise.
No mental aspect of it as in
this is what I want to do.
And then the string length determines
the energy that you're looking at.
So it is a science, uh, it's a science in
which you are the person that is doing it.
And I also want to back up and ask you
about, when you're talking about like
the, the man looking across the street
at the woman, was that because the, the
woman were use using that, uh, description
because a woman would as potentially
more in, in line with their intuition
in their right brains, so they would.
Sense that, or would that also happen if a
man was looking across the street at a man
or a a, a woman was looking at a, at a man
and the man would perceive it, et cetera?
Yeah, it's universal.
It is.
I just used a woman 'cause I'm a man.
I look at a woman, okay, it's your
intuition, but it's more than that.
Uh, it's the waves that are
there, the subtle energies are
there and you're detecting it.
Uh, and everyone has
that ability to detect.
Uh, anything they want to pay attention to
is really paying attention and intention,
and the other person will see it.
Uh, I think women are more intuitive
than men for the most part, but not all.
Uh, many men are very, very intuitive.
Uh, uh, sometimes they pay
less attention to it, whereas a
woman tends to pay a little more
attention to those types of things.
Uh, but that's the only difference that,
uh, we're all the same, uh, within us.
We're all immensely divine,
wonderful, beautiful persons.
Um, so let's just.
Take a moment and back up a
little bit further, further.
You also mentioned spoon bending,
which I think our, our listeners
would love to hear a little bit
about that and what your take on it.
Um, that is as especially being a
scientist, everything is thoughts.
And, uh, once you come to
that realization, then the
thoughts can do things that
you didn't think were possible.
And sometimes you have to throw emotions
and intention into those things.
And that's what spoon
bending is really all about.
And if you're doing it in a group, the
group thought, uh, is more powerful.
So if you're doing it with a group,
and that's the reason you have spoon,
Benny parties, uh, everyone will chat.
Ben, Ben, Ben.
And then they forget about the words.
Ben, Ben, Ben.
And so the message is across and
then they wait for things to happen
and the spoon suddenly becomes soft
and you turn it like a pretzel.
And it, it's, it's very soft at that
point in time, and that is spoon bending.
It's possible.
And I was surprised at FMBR,
they had spoon bending parties.
Uh, in the past, uh, before I became,
uh, the chairman of FMBR and, uh,
I, I asked, can we see how many
persons, uh, really been spoons and
who has been spoons of this room?
And about three quarters of the
group said, yeah, I've meant a spoon.
So I was one of 'em.
Oh, wonderful.
You have that ability and now you know,
you know that you are more than just,
uh, what everyone thinks they are.
Yeah.
It's pretty mind blowing.
And with that in mind, you know, I,
I feel compelled to share something
here that where I've, I've actually
had the experience of seeing the,
the white five pointed star in
my third eye with my eyes closed.
This was an ex exercise that I, I
was engaged at when I are engaged
in, when I was a student up in
Washington state, which is kind of
a controversial place, but I had
some mind blowing experiences there.
I'm no longer a student there, but
I value what I got from that because
it really stretched and opened
my mind about what was possible.
And we were doing this practice
where I think there were 300 people
there, uh, in this first retreat
that I did, which was a week.
And we were all in a, a building on
this property and each of us made
two, three by five cards, um, with
an image on it of something that
we wanted to create in our lives or
something that was important to us.
And it had to be an image that we could
keep in our mind's eye, in our, in our
third eye, so to speak, but keep in our
mind's eye that we could visualize easily.
And then a, a team of of staff members
went out and put all of these cards
face down on the, on the inside
of a, of a fence on a giant field
about the size of a soccer field.
And then all of the participants who had
made these cards came out to the field.
Of course, nobody knew where
their cards were on the, on the
perimeters of the field, on the,
again, on the inside of the fence.
And everybody put blindfolds on.
And we, we did a sort of
meditation pro, uh, process.
Uh.
That we called consciousness and energy,
which, which, uh, took us into a sort of
a deep focused state using deep breathing.
And then the idea was that if,
if you're able to, oh, and yeah,
we, so we had blindfolds on.
The idea is that if, if everybody is able
to hold, or if a person is able to hold
the image of one of their cards, we're
only doing one card at a time strongly
enough that as they walk on the field,
they will be guided by spirit or by energy
waves, whatever it is to their card.
And they of course have no idea
where their card is on the field.
I mean, that just sounds crazy to me.
But I would say, so I was in what
could be called beginner's mind.
And I was excited about this
exercise and the possibilities.
And so the second time I hit the fence,
well, the idea was, I guess I should
say a little bit more, that when you
hit the fence with your blindfold on,
and of course you're walking slowly
and you have your hands out in front of
you, so if you hit the fence, you, you
are only allowed to look at the card
that's immediately in front of you.
You can't look over to the right
and to the left and try to see if
maybe those cards are your card.
You're only to look at the card that
you felt, that you were guided towards.
And if that's not yours, then
you go back to the center.
You turn around and around, around both
directions, you have your blindfold on,
and then you, you start walking again.
So I hit the, within the first five to
10 minutes of this exercise with 300
people on the field, 600 cards on the
perimeter of the field, on the fence.
Um, I hit the card, the fir, or I
hit the fence the first time, looked
at the card, it wasn't my card.
Went back to the center, put my blindfold
back on, round and round and round, round
and round around, walked around again.
And the second time I hit the fence,
I picked the card up and it was the
card that I had been focusing on.
And at that moment I was, my mind was
just so blown away by this possibility.
It was like energetically, I felt
this sort of, when I got to the card,
there was this, this, I don't know
how to describe it, but this sort
of vortex that happened very fast.
And I looked at the card and it
was my card and I started crying
and I just couldn't believe it.
And, um, I. Interestingly.
Then for the rest of the week, we
did this exercise, I think probably
three more times, maybe four, um,
in the next few days each afternoon.
And I, after the first time, I
got so in my head about it all
that I wasn't able to do it again.
There was one guy in the group who did
it every single time, and when they,
when you found your card, the, the staff
member would tape it to your chest or
tape it, put it around your, put it on
a chain and put it around your neck.
And this one guy did it so many
times that I think he had seven
cards hanging off of his neck.
But, and so when I continued
being a student at that school
for a while and doing subsequent
retreats, we would do that exercise.
And I did find more cards again
in the future, but it was later
on once I was really in this deep
state of concentration and focus and
practice in this exercise, that while
I would be walking on the field.
Searching or, you know, being guided
to my searching for or being guided
to my card, I would start to see
that that five pointed white star
show up in my mind's eye, or I
think you would say the third eye.
And I never could
understand what that was.
And I asked staff members, I asked
some of the main teachers and none of
them had ever heard of that before.
So when I read this in your book
about, or no, when you shared with
me about your experience with Crea
yoga, it was very enlightening and
helpful to me to find that somebody
else had had this experience.
And here it is somehow connected with
going into this deep internal state of
meditation and focus, um, that I guess
can be accessed in different ways that
you accessed it through crea yoga.
And I accessed, accessed it
through this other practice.
That's a wonderful story.
I, I, I appreciate that, that story.
It, it's, it's, and I, I
look at it another way.
Um, I look at it from the view of Radie
and in Radie, you come into resonance.
I. With whatever it is
that you're intending.
So your right brain or subconscious
mind or whatever you wanna call it, uh,
comes into resonance with that energy.
And I think that's also
how people find water.
It's, it's not mental dowsing,
it's that they are water and
they know the feel of water.
They're in resonance with
water and they can find it.
So you're in residence with the card.
You know what it is that you want,
and now you're trying to get the
subconscious mind to get your feet
to go in the right direction and your
feet will go in the right direction
because that's, uh, that's who you are.
You're able to do that.
Your conscious mind won't be able to
do that, but your subconscious mind or
right brain will be able to, to do that.
And that's how I, that's one
way of, that's just another
way of interpreting that story.
Thank you, Jerry.
Yeah, that's really
helpful and insightful.
I appreciate that.
Another interesting thing about the
experience was that, uh, for the most
part, when it, when you were really
dropped in behind the blindfold and
walking around in that field, if you were
completely focused and I guess you would
say in the, the magic if you will, of
radius seizure connecting to the card,
and you're truly on the path of getting
of going in the direction of the card.
Interestingly, even though there's other
people walking around with blindfolds
on, you will somehow actually be guided.
So you don't run into anybody,
which I found whenever I was able
to drop into that state during
this practice, that would happen.
And it's just incredible.
And of course then there would be other
times where I would be not focused and I'd
be in my head, and then I would bump into
people, um, and people would bump into me.
So, yeah, I just love this stuff.
It's so, uh, fascinating and mind
opening and mind blowing in many ways,
um, to discover that we're, we, we can
do these things, that there's so much
more to us than quote unquote meets
the eye or any of our other senses.
Um, okay here, so moving on.
Uh, one of the things you talk about in
your first book is how Yoakim taught you
about the subtle, energetic quality that
we can measure, which you call 3 6 9.
Can you explain more here about
what 3 6 9 is referring to?
I had heard, uh, Nicola Tesla's statement,
uh, if you knew the secret of 3 6 9,
you'd have the key to the universe.
And I always wondered
what that really meant.
And one time I was listening to
a lecture, and in the lecture
there was a picture of a Taurus.
It was a side view of a Taurus as a donut.
And if you cut the donut in half
lengthwise, you have the two
little, two circles of the Taurus.
'cause that's, uh, how the Taurus
is if you cut it in a certain angle.
And I looked at that
figure and I says, okay.
I see three, I see six and nine and three,
depending upon how you cut that Taurus.
It's in this wind within that structure.
And I said, that's curious.
That must be what, uh, 3, 6, 9, and
what Tesla has been talking about.
So I said, well, how do I prove that?
Well, I knew about geometry
and I knew BG three pendulums,
and, and I knew about harmony.
And I said, okay, let's see
if this structure has any
harmony associated with it.
And it didn't.
It did not.
Then I, I said, well, me,
I'm doing something wrong.
And uh, what if I trace out the six
and the nine in a clockwise manner?
I did it clockwise because I knew
about Walter Russell's work in which
creation is a vortex into the center,
which is clockwise and decay is a,
uh, is light coming into the center,
clockwise and decays light going
outta the center counterclockwise.
So I knew the concepts of clockwise
and counterclockwise, so I drew
the six in a clockwise manner and I
drew the nine in a clockwise manner.
And if you connect those, you do
actually also see the three there.
And when I did that with the to
structure, BG three showed up.
There was harmony energy that
was there, but it was different
than the BG three energy.
And I knew that it was different,
uh, and I learned the reasons why
later on I didn't talk about it in
my books or anything of that nature.
And I found that all the key.
Symbols in the Hindu religion, Chinese
religion all had symbols that gave,
uh, the 3, 6, 9 energies or the, the
harmony energies that were there.
Uh, and so they all had
their separate signals.
Ohm, when you write the Sanskrit ohm
structure, it's nothing more than 3,
6 9, but in Sanskrit, so it's there.
You write yin yang, the symbol of yin yang
with the circle and the curly cue around
it, and that's just a Torah structure.
Half of the tourist structure
connecting a clockwise motion
with the counterclockwise motion.
So that is, if you, the yin yang structure
itself has no energy, but if you do the.
Clockwise and counterclockwise
motion on that, that center motion
on it, it now has the BG three
energies or the 3 6 9 energies.
And in my recent work, uh,
especially working with Meg, we
learn about the nature of, uh, some
of these energies and the energies.
The initial things that we learned were.
The Taurus nature of the energies.
Uh, and so BG three is the
masculine Taurus going into the
center and the feminine en energy
going into the center is a 3, 6 9.
They come into the center, then they
go out and as a decay, but as they
come into the center, and the center
is a stillness that is there, uh,
that's a center of stillness, and
that's the plane that we live on.
Uh, it's where everything becomes
still as it's going in, it's big
circles coming in and goes very fast.
That's the reason your vibrational
rate goes up as you come into the
center and as you DAOs and make the
affirmation statements and rethink.
We think I am.
If you say that you're out here
and out, then you go faster and
faster, and then when you're
there, stillness, pendulum, stomps.
And so it's these two concepts of,
of these things, of the BG three and
360 9, and then with the shift in
energy, which I'll talk about later,
the shift, cause other energies
are more, even more powerful than
the 360 9 would come into being.
And those replace the energies and
each shift has higher and higher
and higher levels of energy.
And these early shifts
were in the thousands.
The new shifts are in the quadrillions,
which is 10 to the 15th and higher.
Uh, so I'm getting ahead of my story
at this point in time, but because
I'm trying to describe 3, 6, 9, and
BG three and what it's all about.
So it's a story of how things.
How we learned about things.
And it's not given in my first book in the
stories of 3 6 9, having the energies that
it, that it had is now in the past because
the new energies have supplanted that.
And therefore when you look at at it
in terms of looking for those energies,
the pendulums no longer turn clockwise.
'cause you're now over here and
those energies no longer serve you.
So therefore.
It's a, it's a different scenario all
together and you are no longer the same
person you were a couple of years ago.
'cause now you're living up here
and everyone who is of a loving
nature is living up here now.
They just don't realize that unless
they do a personal wavelength and check
articles and seeing if things resonate.
'cause it's like electrons
going into different orbits.
Uh, electrons are in this orbit, and if
they jump to another orbit or jump back
to another orbit, energy is given out and
whatnot, but they're in another orbit.
And so you keep moving up to orbits,
but you can also see all these other
orbits because we're of who we are.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Jerry.
Wow, that's, that's a lot to, um, try
to unravel, especially for somebody
like me who's not a scientist.
But I really appreciate
all that you shared.
Um.
I'm, I am continually fascinated
by 3 6 9 and I'll, and I'm actually
been, have been using that with my
own affirmations and statements.
Uh, I am statements, but I'd like
to touch on how can we use a 3 6
9 for healing harmonization and
reaching the pure level of I am.
As you talk a little bit or
maybe a lot in your book.
Both books.
The simple answer is that, uh, uh, 3 6
9 helps you to spiral into who you are.
Just like you say I am,
helps you to spiral you in.
And the, uh, since it's a Torah structure
that you're spiraling and the motion
of that, uh, it is a 3, 6, 9 structure.
It helps you to get there.
You don't need it.
It's a crutch in a certain sense.
Uh, but I still use it.
Uh, 'cause the crutch is sometimes
good to help you do the spiraling.
Uh, if I'm.
Doing, uh, certain affirmations like,
uh, di Am thoughts within Thoughts within
thoughts I am, and understanding who
I am, I may say that three times, six
times, and nine times, and it'll spiral
me into, uh, uh, the essence of myself,
uh, quicker if I'm a little bit off.
I said, okay, I'll, I'll
do it 3, 6, 9 times.
And it, when you're in that essence,
you are, I. That center of stillness
where there's harmony, and harmony is
a fundamental aspect of, of healing.
You bring yourself to that state,
and in that state you're connected to
virtually everything, and it's easier to
connect to all your cells in your body.
All the cells in your body are,
have their own separate thoughts.
And how do you communicate with this?
All the separate thoughts.
You come into harmony and you
ask the cells to come into, uh,
harmony with their disharmony.
They may not know that there's in
disharmony, uh, where there's, they're
causing the cancer or whatever.
There's the pain or whatever it may be.
They're being themselves and
trying to survive, but if you
invite in harmony with the, their
disharmony, then that gets the cells.
Aware of that, ah, there's
this, this harmony that's there,
and this is where harmony is.
Okay, I'll change.
'cause change is just a thought.
And healing is just a thought also.
And that's the reason that people who
have cancers or whatever it is, if they
can wrap their mind around thoughts
and wrap around their minds around love
and, and being at peace and being in
harmony, a lot of times their cancer goes
away, uh, or whatever the problem is.
Uh, it's, it's a ability to.
Not limit yourself in
terms of your own thoughts.
And that's a easy thing for me to
say, but very difficult thing to do.
But it is the part of you
that is able to do that.
And if you can recognize that and
come into that loving being of
yourself, that's where healing occurs.
Healing is all done by the self.
Yes, people can give you energies
to bring in harmony and things
of that nature, and that helps.
But if you don't have the intention or
your intention is that I like to talk
about a particular disease, and you
live that disease, that's where you are.
And your body will listen to
that and therefore you manifest
your own problems a lot of time.
And you may not be aware of that.
You're just saying, woe is me.
Uh, but you're manifesting
because you are.
That's where your attention is.
And therefore your body thinks,
okay, that's where your attention is.
Let's listen to the, to your message.
That's all it is.
And that harmony is getting yourself
out of the way and coming into that
harmony, and that's where healing
occurs.
So again, I keep using the word
fascinating, but it, it certainly
is, um, a lot to unpack there.
And I definitely recommend that if people
are interested in what we're talking
about and what Jerry is presenting,
that you check out Jerry's books.
So, and in your book and in your recent
presentation that I attended last
week, you talk about how 3 6 9 can
be used in the form of affirmations.
Affirmations that are empowered and
activated by use of the words I am and
the energetic principles of 3 6, 9.
One of the affirmations you
mentioned is, I am rethink, rethink.
I am.
Can you explain how that works and what
the, the word rethink is pointing to?
I see it as two different
definitions of rethink.
One definition that's more common that
everyone can recognize easily is that, uh,
you, you can have thoughts and if you have
a thought, that's where your mind goes.
It goes in that direction.
Uh, I'm a conservative, I'm
a liberal, I'm a teacher.
Whatever it is that you're
thinking, that is where you are.
But thoughts and thinking
is a limiting word.
So therefore you only get
away from a limiting word.
'cause that locks you into
a way of, of thinking.
And so if you use the word rethink
versus thinking, that opens the door.
All the possibilities that are there.
So what Yohi teaches is that, forget the
word, think, always use the word rethink.
So that's one definition.
Then in the, the statement of
I am rethink, rethink, I am.
So in this case, the rethink
has to do with I am, most
people do not know who they are.
They think, ah, I'm the teacher,
I'm the student, or whatever it is
that I'm the wife, I'm the husband,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
They have all these little pockets.
Whereas the the thinking who
you really are is the essence
of, of all of everything.
The essence of who you are is
really what you're trying to get to.
That's where your true home is.
That's where the harmony is located.
So even though you do not know the
meaning of I am, rethink, rethink, I am,
the word says it and you're a creator.
And when you say those words, the
message comes through your, what
you're doing is you're spiraling
into the truth of who you are.
So as you say, I am
rethink, rethink, I am.
And you spiral into your
essence at that point.
And so making that statement without
knowing anything else, your pendulum in
radius seizure, if you do, your personal
wavelength will go faster and faster and
faster if you measure those energies.
And I did that little experiment of
someone not knowing anything about
it, but just stating the words.
I checked their level of energy before
and afterwards I. It went up to a hundred
thousand or 200,000, I don't remember
the exact number from, from a few
thousand just by stating those words.
They hadn't gone to the center
of stillness yet, but that's
what Center of stillness.
But there were, the vibrational energy
had already gone up considerably.
So that's the magic of Rethink.
Uh, and there's other words that have
that magic also, but rethink is a key one
to spiral a person into their essence.
Yes.
I remember you talked about that last week
in the presentation and it has it sort
of quality of sort of dropping you into a
deeper state of being or perhaps expanded.
Would it be correct to say that Rethink
is kind of like reconsider or like open to
new to more unlimited possibilities around
your thoughts or your perception of.
Reality or what you're
focusing on in the moment?
I think the rewords are very, very
crucial words in our vocabulary.
And we use the rewords more often.
We'll run into a lot, lot less problems.
Uh, and there's a lot of those
rewords that I sometimes in my
meditation, if I go to sleep, I repeat.
A whole litany of the rewords because,
uh, of the power of that, of those words.
'cause you're trying to get
yourself not locked in to things
that may not be beneficial.
We, in fact, are our own
worst enemies 'cause we use so
many words that are limiting.
And Heim's dream is to have a dictionary
that has, that eliminates all the
re all the words that are limiting.
Uh, 'cause we are in fact, uh, unlimited.
Uh, it's just how we decide, decide
to limit ourselves in our actions,
uh, in our, in our thinking.
And it's really, everything is thoughts.
And so it's limiting your thoughts
and limiting your capabilities when
you don't, uh, use the right words.
Words are power.
Uh, the whole saying of, of when you're
kid, uh, uh, words won't hurt, harm
me, sticks and stones that harm me.
You know, tho those si types of words.
No, it is the words that sets the
stage for everything else that occurs.
And, uh, if you.
Teach a child to be loving and give them
the right atmosphere and everything else.
You set the stage for the whole life.
And the same is in true, is
true with all these words.
You use the words properly
and you become unlimited.
And that's the, the goal.
And that's where the shift is all
leading us to, to be who we are.
Would you say words are sort of like
a form of programming and if we, you
know, if we have a sort of a structure
of words that we say that make up or
describe our current reality, we can
sort of get locked in that programming
and we just continue to repeat that
even though we may be asking for
change or transformation in our lives.
Definitely the case, uh,
words are limiting and we learn the words
from our parents, from teachers, from
the government, and from everyone else.
Uh, it's how to recognize
that and teach yourself.
To not limit yourself, uh, because we
really are unlimited, uh uh, and we
should behave that way and be at the
creator that we are as long as we're
doing everything in harmony and love.
One of the statements or affirmations
you mentioned earlier was that I am, um,
thoughts within Thoughts within thoughts,
and that's one of the statements where you
use the 3 6 9 repetition with a statement.
Can you explain that a little bit?
Like what is the I am thoughts
within thoughts mean, and then
how do you use that With 3 6 9,
you are in fact thoughts within
Thoughts within thoughts.
You just may not realize that
if you considered your body, if
you're talking to your body, uh,
each cell has its own thoughts.
Each atom has its own thoughts.
So each, uh, organ has its
own series of thoughts.
So if you want to, if, if you're
thinking about healing and you want to.
Think about that.
Consider every organ as
having their set of thoughts.
And therefore, if you want to communicate
with that, uh, you have to get down
to the level of communicating with it.
So you can say, I invite
thoughts within thoughts within
thoughts to rethink with me.
And then you repeat that.
Uh, I am thoughts within.
Thoughts within thoughts within thoughts
within thoughts within thoughts,
within thoughts, within thoughts,
within thoughts to rethink with me.
That's six times.
Then you do it one more time, uh, nine
times, and you can get to that level of.
That state where healing can occur,
and then you can put in the further
fa uh, phrases of, I invite in harmony
with the disharmony of the cells that
are causing whatever the problem is.
Uh, so you bring yourself to those stages
and you learn to do all those types
of things, and that's all part of, of
healing and uh, part of who you are.
Oh, wonderful.
Yeah.
It's like, it's a whole different
way of accessing our power as, as
divine points of consciousness, which
is just so inspiring and inspired.
Jerry.
Uh, it's wonderful.
Um, so for creating and imagining
what we want to create, you
mentioned, I think in the first
book, the Statements I am recreate.
Again, there's the re and I am Reimagine.
I am.
Sorry.
It's, I am recreate.
I am.
And the other statement, I am reimagine.
I am.
Can you please tell us more about
these and how those can be used?
Well, you're, we're always
creating, we're always
evolving.
And if we want to truly evolve,
then we really want to do more.
And if you recreate, you can recreate the
things that you want to see happen, uh,
in the world or in life, in your own life.
And it's more powerful.
Uh, yes, you can be a creator.
You make this, uh, beautiful wood carving
or whatever it is you want to do, but if
you're recreating, you can see a bigger
picture and you want to see that bigger
picture and therefore your creation.
Uh.
Will be more.
And so the word I am recreate
I am, or I'm reimagined I am,
brings you to that next level.
It's just that rethink brings
you to that next level.
Recreate brings to that next level.
And the word ee is also
is another key word.
'cause when you see something,
you're seeing one thing.
Uh, it's like thinking, you're
thinking one thing, but for reason
to see those things are past.
So if you want to not be
encumbered by that past and see
all the possibilities, then you
recreate, you rethink, you re-see.
And those are some of the key
words or re-remember, or Reno.
Uh, wonderful.
All wonderful words that, uh.
Enlarge your scope of who you are
and what you can be.
Okay.
Thank you for that explanation.
That's very helpful.
So I wanna share with you that
after reading about 3, 6, 9, in
your first book, I started adding,
I. 3, 6, 9 to my own meditations.
And after I meditate for a period,
I will often do affirmation that
in affirmations that include I
am statements such as I am divine
love, I am divine light, I am divine
wisdom, I am divine peace, and so on.
From your perspective, am I using or
phrasing these statements correctly
or as effectively as I could?
What you're stating
is, is very, very good.
Yohi has a particular statement,
uh, that he uses and I use,
and I say it in different ways
depending upon what my goal is.
If I'm trying to influence the world to
be more loving, uh, I may state it, uh,
in the situation that I maintain, sustain
and support, uh, divine love, harmony,
gratitude, divine light, and life.
Uh.
Uh, divine forgiveness, uh, compassion,
humility, tranquility, uh, happiness,
joy, wisdom, uh, oneness and inner peace.
Uh, and then you say, I am, or if
I'm just talking to myself and I
still wanna get the message out,
I can state it, it with court to
myself that I am, uh, love, harmony.
Gratitude, et cetera, and say exactly
the same words, uh, over again.
Uh, and then you're linking
yourself to all these messages.
And that's what you're doing when you
say, um, you're divine love and you're
making the statements, you're choosing the
key ones that you're making statements.
They're all important statements and
they're all encompass who you are.
And I think, uh, you're
amazing as a result.
And because you do that and,
and you're trying to get that
message out and trying to get that
message out with these podcasts,
and I think that that's wonderful
that you're doing it.
Oh, thank you so much, Jerry.
Thank you very much, Jerry.
That's another thing I remember
from what, uh, Joaquin talking about
that thank you so much is actually
implying sort of, uh, lessening or a
limited quality when we say so much.
So I have tried to change that
phrase to thank you very much, uh,
or something that's more, a little
more effective and unlimited.
So let's take another quantum leap
now and touch into what you talked
about recently in your presentation
that I attended last week, which
was called Birth of a New Humanity
and Increasing Vibrational Energies.
You also called it the shift.
Can you describe the subtle energies
in and around us, what they are and
how they've been building over the last
couple of years, including the massive
increase just in the last few months?
Few months?
Okay.
Few
months.
Well, back in
2023, before May of 2023, everything was.
Sort of normal.
And we had our structures, uh,
uh, we had energy surrounding us.
Uh, we had a biofield and
a Corona surrounding it.
Uh, we had a central column and
it had different colors going
up, uh, through the top of the
crown and down below and the feet.
And then the earth and the biofields
surround us had this ribbon like effect,
uh, like an eggshell Easter eggshell
with colors, uh, that were there.
And we had layers of BG three and 3
6 9 within, uh, our structure within
the biofield next to our, our body.
Uh, and it was a certain size, about
five, six feet is the size of the, of
the, uh, biofield that surrounds us.
And what happened during
20, after 2023 was that, uh.
Continuously changes were occurring.
There were activations that
were occurring, uh, to us.
And that would trigger
things that would happen.
Uh, example, your pineal
and pituitary glands.
Uh, the energies that the right next
to each other and the brain, the
energies would, uh, exchange, uh,
between the two glands and it would
go in one direction sort of more.
The male energies would
go in one direction.
Female energies would go in another
direction, and, and you'd see that
and it would last some months, and
then the energies would change and
reverse other energies would happen.
And these were all activations and it
happened to every part of your body.
Your organs were, is happening
to, uh, your gut, your
brain, et cetera, et cetera.
Things were activating and I. Uh,
it was sort of the a hundred monkey
effect, and more and more people got
these, if they notice certain ora
uh, aurora borealis or crop circle or
painting, things would trigger in them.
And things were happening to
people that you can detect.
And these changes would permanent
until the exchange came, came along.
So a year later, by May of 2024,
that whole structure that I talked
about before had changed entirely.
Now, instead of, uh, biofield being
these ribbons of colors and having
different auras within the, uh, uh,
the biofield and within yourself,
and having the 3, 6, 9 and BG three,
now all the energies were white.
And the white was the strongest color,
but had all the other colors there versus
all before all the colors were separate.
But now you're uniformly white with all
the colors that are a part of you, and a
lot of the energies that are interchanging
within yourself have changed also.
So all those things happen you before
there are channels in which you connect
with your, uh, mother's side of the family
or father's side of the family, and all
those mushed together into one uniform,
white connecting with your higher self.
And you can detect all these types
of changes that were occurring.
Our biofuels grew.
So by mid, uh, by May, 2024, our
biofuels had gone up to around seven,
eight feet and we were radiating all
this white energy out, uh, from us.
So that changed.
Then as we went on into 2024, the
energies kept changing and modifying.
They were happening very quickly.
Every month, new things were
happening, and all the old
energies sort of fell to the side.
All the old energies that you
were detecting, you can no
longer detect by the same method.
Uh, you devise other, there's a tool
that we developed that you can detect all
these energies, but you can detect things.
And now the energies have
in the month of December.
They just really skyrocketed.
It went from the thousands to
the millions and billions and
trillions by middle of of September.
Then in December they spiked up and they
were going into the quadrillions and
then quadrillions to the quadrillion
power, then quadrillion into the
quadrillion to quadrillion power,
which is our huge, huge numbers.
Uh, they're all on the exponent
of base, the exponent of 10.
These huge, huge numbers.
And that's where we are now.
And so we're different and we're
different, uh, on physically.
You and I look the same.
Internally.
We are different.
And things that used to bother
you probably no longer bother you.
You just may not realize it 'cause you're
not using the tools, uh, to test for it.
The personal wavelength is a
tool that you can test for it.
Uh, you can test that.
Ah, is EMF.
Cell phones, uh, your, your, uh, iPhones,
Samsung phones, whatever it may be.
And the towers are giving off the
energies they used to be very bad for
you because they would activate, uh,
calcium getting into cells that caused
this whole inflammatory process that
eventually caused the, uh, the oxidative,
uh, damages to occur within your body and
cause cancer 10, 20 years down the line.
Now, I no longer worry about that.
I do the personal wavelength on EMF.
And the pendulum, instead of going
counterclockwise, which means it's being
harmful, just goes back and forth, meaning
that it's not harmful, it's not just
good for you, it's just indifferent.
It just goes back and forth.
Uh, and lots of things that,
uh, were, ah, you needed this
because your body needed this for
protection, for bringing in harmony.
And you test these things,
the tools that you've bought.
Uh, and I won't go through all
the tools that you probably have.
Everyone has their own tools to
bring in harmony if you test it.
You may find that ah, no
longer is going clockwise.
It's just going back and forth.
You no longer, no longer need it.
So that's the reason you
do testing on these things.
So you understand what is
good and what's bad for you.
But if your mind is back in the
times of 2023, your mind is such
that, ah, this is where I want to be,
then things may not happen for you.
You may be changing, but you may
just not be recognizing those change
until you decide to recognize it.
So you decide either live in
the now or live in the past.
You have that decision to to make.
So things are changing though.
I see the energies that are changing and.
It.
That's, that's how I see it.
At any rate, so that, that's
what's happening in the shift.
It's a huge thing.
It's probably the biggest thing
that's happening on the planet
right now, but it's the most hidden
thing in the world at this point in
time because people don't see it.
They just see and hear, uh, the
noise around them, uh, whatever the
politicians and everyone else is doing.
And that's just all part of it.
And I, I look at chaos in a different way.
Also, chaos helps to bring in
the harmony because now you
see the two ends of things.
If you didn't have things that were
not so good, then it's harder to
recognize the things that are good.
And so, uh, that's the reason I
think there's been a growth of
those types of things, but it's
causing people to now recognize.
And so the next generation will look at
it and look at things in a different way.
And, and most people, if you now
talk to people, really don't.
Uh, say that, ah, we
should be doing this bad.
We should go shoot feed
people and ah, they're bad.
Yes, there are fringes there of that
nature 'cause they have not gotten
that message and their vibrations
are not going in that direction.
But a lot of people are in that
direction and they have changed.
And you have to take these people,
people like yourself and myself.
If the government says, go there
and shoot those folks 'cause
they're bad, are you gonna do that?
Of course not.
You're gonna just say, okay,
shoot me if you have to.
That's not what I'm gonna do.
Uh, and you're not,
you're gonna take that.
And besides you're eternal anyways.
And most people don't
realize that they're eternal.
Uh, but they are, everyone
is eternal in, uh.
Uh, once you realize that things
just keep going on, your, your view
of everything is, is different.
Oh, it's very exciting.
What a time to be alive.
So these inner, these energies
you're talking about are in us
and around us, is that correct?
They're part of everything.
Uh, it's just that it's not the
typical standard electromagnetic
energies that people measure.
And, uh, pure scientists will say, I can't
measure it, so therefore it's not real.
Uh, but that's their belief system.
But if you're in the Hindu religion,
ah, there's pana, there's in Chinese.
Medicine, there's qi and you can
work with it and do things with it.
And if you're, if you know radius
seizure, you can measure it, you can
detect the amounts of it, you can
detect the various qualities of it.
Uh, and you can do all
sorts of things with it.
And it's all you and who you are.
So it depends upon what your
system of belief really is.
You are more than just the matter,
matter has these energies into it.
Uh, and if you now start setting the
energies, the energies are evolving
in this amazing way used to be just
the vortex that you're seeing now.
The vortexes have combined in all sorts
of different ways, and the elementals
have combined in all different ways.
Sound has come in, uh, light and
everything else has come into it.
Shadows and light and everything else.
So there, there's thoughts within
thoughts and thoughts all combined
in this miraculous ways that are who
we are and what these energies are.
And that's the reason the
energies are skyrocketing.
Uh, it's not just, oh, this one thing.
It's all the symphony of things
that are occurring within you.
And, um, if you'll study it and
look at it, you'll, you'll get it.
We in ignore it, and it's all
up to the individual as to what
they want to do, but it's there.
Uh, at least that is what I am detecting
and that's what Meg is detecting in
the army of folks that surround us, uh,
that are detecting it, uh, that way.
But not everyone is, is,
uh, detecting it that way.
And I'm not there to change anyone's mind.
It's how they, people want to look
at things and, uh, how they evolve.
And everyone is gonna evolve accordingly.
I'll get my messages across and hopefully
people, enough people will listen.
And the a hundred monkey effect, uh,
comes into play at some point in time.
But that is what I am doing and trying
to help in this process, uh, of.
It's a process of
enlightenment, uh, in essence.
And all the avatars went through this
process to get to where they were.
And so we are in mankind is now at
the point of evolving into this whole.
Higher level.
That's how I see it.
At any rate, and no more separation,
we're all, we're connected, but we're
separate and we'll all always have our
own separate ways of looking at things.
But we are also this oneness that is there
too, because we're all of the same nature.
We're all these little
bubbles doing his own dance.
And if we see what the dance is,
then we can help that dance along.
And that's really my sole purpose
in, in doing all the things that
I, I do at this point in time.
I love it.
Jerry, again, so inspiring.
And you've mentioned Meg
a couple times already.
So that's Meg Lund who, um, is as another,
as a scientist that you're working with.
I understand based on your talk last
week that, that you and Meg have
been testing for and studying these
energies and have created systems or
techniques by which you're able to,
uh, test and study these energies.
I'm right there with you, but it just
brings up so many questions I have to say,
and you know, I'm one of them is where
do these increasing energies source from?
Does this energetic increase
have anything to do?
I'm curious with what is called the
precession of the e equinoxes, the
cycle of our planet and solar systems
orbit that completes itself and
restarts its orbit every 26,000 years.
Yeah, I think all of it is
related and it's hard to
pinpoint any single thing.
It's just like, uh.
A child going through puberty.
Uh, it's something that happens.
And whether it's procession, the
timing of that, uh, it's happening
at this 26,000 year cycle.
So something is happening.
Uh, did it happen before?
Probably in some way, but again, we don't
have records of anything of that nature.
We have the Mayan calendars,
so we see something and we know
something about the 26,000 year
cycle, which some Mayans knew about.
So it's, uh, it, it's something
that is there and it's something
that's happening on a cosmic
level as well as a local level.
Uh, you see the Galactic Center and
the energies that it's pouring out.
You see the energies of the sun.
You see the energies of earth.
You see the energies of ourselves.
Our energies are reflecting
what's happening on the earth.
Earth a year ago did not give off
these quadrillions and quadrillions
of, of uh, what I call eq, energy
quality, uh, uh, units out, uh,
was not doing much of anything.
But then as the energy started
going up, earth started going up
and we started going up, uh, also.
And so the galactic center's involved,
the sun's involved, the moon's involved.
Earth is involved, we are involved,
and we are becoming the centers
of these things on earth Also.
We're intimately involved.
There's a lot of us on earth
now, and I think that's pro.
You hear the stories that the star
seats have come in at this time,
and I believe that is true also.
I believe it's true that the reason
you're here at this time, the reason
I'm here at this time, I'm not saying
I'm a star seat or anything else.
I don't know what I am.
I'm just me.
Uh uh.
And so I'm not claiming anything but.
We're here for a reason and therefore
we're doing the things that we are doing.
I was driven to do what
I'm doing right now.
I didn't realize that, uh, growing
up, yes, I gotta make a living.
I gotta do various things and I, I
got to, my parents didn't have any
money, so therefore I had to figure
out what to do and go forth in life.
So I did all those types of things.
But once the impulse came and once
the age, that impulse came in,
was there, I changed my focus.
I'm still doing all the other
things, but I. I'm also focusing a
lot of my attention on this because
that is who I am at this point in
time and that's what I want to do.
I'm not trying to make money on the doing
anything, uh, I'm just trying to get
the message across, uh, and let people
learn for those who are willing to learn.
Wonderful.
Yeah, and clearly people are resonating
with this and are interested.
I mean, the, the Zoom presentation you did
last week, there must have been, I don't
know, a hundred people or more on there.
It was really wonderful.
So you also talked about how as
creators and divine points of I
am consciousness, we can put these
increasing energies into use in our lives.
One example was being able to
improve the quality of water.
Um, just briefly, I'm curious if, if
you can tell us, how can we do that and
what effect does it have on the water?
Water is universal.
Uh, it's, you know, 85,
90 5% of, of, of us.
It's a huge amount of, of our, our, our
body and water is probably not just water.
There's various states of water.
Pollard talked about the easy water,
uh, as an example, which is a water
that will cause a battery, uh, that
he can make, uh, run all by itself.
Uh, uh, and Emoto talked about,
uh, the structure of water.
Uh, if you give water love, uh, the
crystals come very crystalline and pretty.
They're hexagonal and,
and beautiful to look at.
If you give it hate and anger.
Uh.
The, uh, the, the picture of your
freeze water and then look at its
crystal will be jagged and it'll be,
uh, something that's not very pretty.
So water has a lot of structure.
The structure is probably
within the cells of our body.
It's probably in a crystalline
manner within our body.
We think of it as all just this
liquid water that you drink.
Uh, it's much, much more than that.
It'll pick up the energies.
That's the reason homeopathy works.
Uh, it's picking up the energies
of whatever it is, even though
you dilute the molecule.
So it's no longer in the water.
The water still holds the energy of
whatever it is that it's picked up.
So it is, it is there.
And if you give it eq, the energy
equality of the quadrillions of energy
units there, it'll pick that up also.
Um.
Typically I explain that if you, uh,
have a glass of water, in the old
days when I was looking at water,
it had, uh, in the EQ terminology I
use now, or the BG three terminology
I use, then it had maybe 200 units.
Not a heck, heck of a lot, but
something, uh, and then I learned to
bless water and, and Yohe used to say,
just put your hands around water and
the water will, the energy will go up.
And I did that and I, I measured
that and it went up to a
thousand, 3000 or thereabouts.
Good, good amount of energy.
And you can measure all those energies
with the old tools, even with the new
tools, you can measure that energy.
Then I made the statement that, well,
if I can do that by just putting my
hands around it and knowing who I
am, what if I say and shout out I am.
Blessing this water.
And when I did that, the energy
of the water went up to a million,
which is very, very amazing for me.
Now I'm in the quadrillions, so, and I've
learned something about subtle energies.
You're a creator, so you can do things
with energy and you can copy the energies.
I can copy of color of red, and
I can put that on a zoom, call
the back of your wall back there.
And if you knew how to detect
red, you go back to the wall
and immediately say, oh, okay.
The red is here.
It's not over here.
It's not there.
It was right there, and it
would be where I put it.
And you do that instantaneously.
So I said, okay, if I can
do that, what if I copy.
Say, I am copying my, I am energy
essence, energy and permanently
placing it in the water.
Now, if you measure that water, that
water is now in the quadrillions in
terms of its energies, or you can do
that and, and you do that with the pipes
coming in into the house, or, right.
I am vc I am.
And put the energies of that
into the pipe by just placing it
and sticking it onto the pipe.
Now you have water that's coming in
that is at much, much higher level.
So you have these abilities that, uh,
if you want to use them, they're there.
'cause you are a creator.
You just want to create in harmony
and don't want to create in disharmony
and do things that are negative.
But you can do all sorts of things.
If you're loving, if you're in and do
things that are negative, you're probably
not gonna get all these abilities.
Uh, but you have it.
And everyone, uh, who's listening to this
talk, uh, as of this nature, ha have it.
It's just a matter of whether they
wanna own it or not own it, and
wanna get rid of, uh, limitations
or not get rid of limitations.
'cause we all have, we don't believe
that we are beautiful and amazingly
delightful divine beings, but we are.
And it's taking possession of who we are.
That's really the basis of
all the things that we can do.
Oh, again, I love it, Jerry,
this is just so inspiring.
So, I know you're a scientist, but
would you be willing to comment on
the, perhaps the personal, social and
worldwide implications of this enormous
increase in energies that is taking place?
It seems to me that these energies
have the potential to amplify
whatever is active within us.
For example, as you said, pe-people
who are in a place of negativity or
darkness that's in need of healing that
darkness in whatever form it may take.
I am, I would assume with all this
energy coming in, the energy will cause
it to be increasingly more activated
and brought more palpably to the
surface so it can be seen and healed.
And likewise, if we are
operating primarily in the
realms of love and compassion.
Those qualis qualities would be
amplified and activated as well.
Would you agree?
I
would agree.
You have all the energies and
all the tools that are needed.
Uh, but we do also have free will.
And your free will is you'll state
what it is and whatever you believe
is, uh, from your free will.
If your free will says, I want to
be in pain 'cause I get attention
this way, or whatever it might be.
Uh, you can have that.
It's your will of what you want.
So if you will, if a, if a person
wants to open up to the energies and
to think in terms of the harmony and
who they really are and to evolve.
They can have that, uh, it is there for
everybody and it's happening to anyone
who, who will want to live in that manner.
But you have to stop the limitations.
You have to do what, uh, is, uh,
you have to start thinking and using
these words in a way that is, uh,
will, allows you to grow and evolve.
And I think, uh, the newer generation
will maybe have this more into their
normal abilities and vocabulary.
The older generation will, if they start
examining it, will learn it and use
it, and they can become, uh, unlimited.
It's just, it's a choice.
It's a choice of everybody.
So I'm not saying that things
are gonna happen overnight.
Uh, if a person is married to a certain
way of thinking and want to retain that.
That is fine.
That is their journey.
And they're, they have their free will.
I cannot stop their free will, and I
don't want to, uh, um, that's not me.
I am here and I'll teach and I'll do
things and I'll live my life accordingly.
And that's how I see things.
At any rate, uh, as, as we evolve.
So it's not a, uh, something that
will happen to everyone, but, uh,
it can, can't happen to everyone.
And, and would you say these increasing
energies are sort of giving us
greater access to our abilities as,
or our, what could be called our,
our powers As creators, our, our
abilities to manifest, our abilities
to make changes and transformation
or even our abilities for healing.
We're, as a result of these
increasing energies that are
taking place, we have more access.
To these abilities than
we ever did before.
That's what it sounds like you're saying.
Is that correct?
I think that is correct.
I think we now, uh, it's a period of
waking up and we are being awakened and
the energies are helping us to awaken
in our vibrational levels are just
through the roof at this point in time.
And thank you so much
for what you're doing.
I have deep gratitude to you, Jerry, and
you have so much compassion and kindness.
I've always seen that in you.
And wow, I think we could do about
five more episodes, episodes of this
podcast together and still wouldn't
be able to cover all of the amazing
things that you're working on right
now and sharing with the world and
your books and your presentations.
Thank you for the all that you're doing
in service to the evolution of humanity.
So before we wrap this up, IJI just have
a few more questions, um, that get a
bit more personal about your personal
path if you're willing to indulge me.
So I'm curious if you were de to describe
your current spiritual perspective in your
life today, how would you describe it?
I would describe it as I am, uh, simply
because I'm coming into the essence
of who we I am and that is everything.
It's the essence and that's
the eternal aspect of, of me.
Uh, so my spiritual journey has brought me
to that and actually brought me to that.
Point, maybe 10 or 15 years ago when
I, after all my studies and listening
and talking to people and healers,
uh, I realized that I am, uh, and
with the affirmations, it was a tool
to center all that, uh, knowledge.
So Yohi supplied me with a tool that
brought those to enable me to bring
this message out to people in a way
that, uh, is more all encompassing.
So, uh, it's a journey and everyone
goes through their journey and
everyone's journey is evolving and
it's this journey of enlightenment
and there are all levels of that.
Um.
If you're in the Hawkins, uh,
scale and you're at 500, you're
at one level of enlightenment.
At 600, you're another level.
If at the Christ level you're at a
thousand and the level goes up, but
he, that, he stopped it at a thousand.
But it continues moving up and you can go
as high as you want in that, uh, scale.
And that's, uh, that's who we all are.
And these things can
happen instantaneously.
Um, yes.
If you live your life and think along
the same ways all the time, then
you're locked in into one level.
But if you change your perspective
and come to realize who you are and
step away from limitations, you're
automatically at another level.
And that level goes up,
ah, now I can do this.
Now I can do that.
Well, it's not doing things, it's just
you're, you're removing the limitations
and it takes time to remove it.
'cause you don't necessarily
believe that you can do that.
You believe it because you've done it.
You've done something that
says, oh, I can do that.
So another level of limitation goes away.
You do something else.
Oh, I can do that.
Another level goes away.
And as you do that, you're going
up the evolutionary ladder.
And it's fun going up that ladder because
it enables you to be who you really are.
That's really the key
of, uh, the whole thing.
That's, that's what you're, that's
what everything is all really
all about and it's to evolve.
Uh, in the beginning
there was unconsciousness.
Now there's consciousness.
And where will consciousness lead us?
And we're testing the waters of
that all the time and re-imagining
and recreating all the time.
What an amazing universe we live in.
So, uh, thank you for sharing all of that.
Uh, if you could give advice to
someone seeking a deeper connection
with themselves and with all
that is, what would that be?
Well, I'd, I come back to the, I am,
start with, uh, a few simple affirmations.
Live with that for a while
and see where that leads you.
'cause the affirmations will lead you.
Uh, you're now getting connected.
You're connected to your I Am, which
will lead you to the next step, and then
the next step, and then the next step.
And that's what I've been doing
for the past basically 20 years.
Uh, 'cause I go through each
step along the way and I explore
many, many things along the way.
I've probably read almost every
type of book, uh, that there is.
And, and, uh, and each one gives me a
different message, another thing to learn.
And so therefore I learn and I continue
to evolve and I continue that journey.
I do research daily.
Uh, you think, oh, okay, got
my PhD. Research is done.
No, uh, it's a daily thing
and you move along that path.
Uh, in the beginning is research
may be on something scientific,
a product or whatever it may be.
Now it's research on things that
are of the subtle energy level.
And where does that bring me?
Uh, and what, where, where
will that eventually lead?
Uh, 'cause everything comes back to
probably the, how the all, everything
is structured comes back to the tourist
structure, comes back to the elementals,
come back to all the other things and
how all things are pulled together.
And that's how we will evolve.
That's how science will evolve.
But scientists do not realize that
at this point in time, but that
is the way of the, of evolution.
'cause that's the way things really are.
Yeah, I, I love it.
I mean, it, it's so perfectly reflects
really what my goal is for the whole
concept of, so what I call sole unique,
which is the idea that, you know,
we all have our own paths and we're,
when we're in alignment with who we
truly are as individualized points of
divine consciousness and follow our
paths, we will be what could be called
guided, um, on that path, or we'll
just be able to navigate our path by.
Always going towards sort
of that, that divine spark.
Like when we discover something
that propels us to what's next,
and so on and so on and so on.
And, and usually they, there's
like a feeling with it.
There's a knowing that, oh, this
is the path I want to go towards.
This is the path for me.
The path of evolution or the path of
personal discovery or personal wavelength
or, um, and so yeah, I, I just love how
you're talking about that, that we're
all on this trajectory of evolution.
That's, that's really what's
going on here on this planet at
this point in time, at least.
So you mentioned books,
you've read a lot of books.
Um, what is your, if you had a
one, maybe two, all-time favorite
spiritually oriented and inspiring
books, what would it or they be?
Well, it's hard to say one, because
it's, it's a journey of, of a
number of different teachings.
Uh.
Uh, Harold, per of all, uh, uh,
thinking and Destiny is a good one.
Uh, yogas, Hanza Yogas Autobiography
of a Yogi is, is another one.
The one I'm reading right now is another
one, uh, mirror Baba, uh, creation and
its causes, uh, uh, and the list goes on.
Kelex, uh, DLO had his Flower of Life
book and gave me a lot of information
on the history, the true history of
how everything came about that, uh,
I didn't know about, uh, before.
So it's been a journey,
uh, of, of, of many, many.
Things, uh, it's journey of books.
It's been a journey of meeting people.
Uh, I've met some wonderful
teachers in, in my life.
Uh, uh, ma Dian Mata Ma is
one good teacher, or Carolyn
Corey is another good teacher.
And I've just had all these teachers
here and there that, uh, I've experienced
and I've experienced a lot of things.
I've gone through every healing
course that there probably is.
So I've understood all the different
types of things that people go through
and they each had their own lessons.
Create Yoga had its own lessons, so these
books I just mentioned are just a part
of it, but they're a good part of it.
Uh, and you see different things.
You know, of course in Miracles.
I saw one message that was there,
and so I got the one message.
Even though the book is that thick,
the Seth books, I see something
else and I get its messages and I've
gone through Channelings with that.
I've gotten other messages
that are important.
Uh, the raw books, uh, uh, con Raw
Contact is another series of things
that I found very interesting.
But each, each one gives another
lesson in another perspective,
and so I'm the composite of.
All these things that are there.
And I have my own unique
ways of looking at things.
And right now it's all
centered around I am.
'cause that's the essence of who we are.
So all these things help to create
that I am, uh, that is there right now.
Even the shift is helping to augment
that I am aspect of it for me, but
I'm seeing all these energies coming
together in very, very unique ways
on your path.
I'm curious if, um, you
could give some guidance.
With regards to helping
people on their paths.
Are there any red flags people
should be aware of when exploring
different spiritual paths,
communities, teachers, or teachings?
No, I think a lot of paths
will lead to the same place.
Some will lead to more
quickly than others.
And if you get stuck, uh, with one
type of teacher or whatever it is, or
teaching and it doesn't give the full
answer, uh, and you follow that to the
end, uh, you may be limiting yourself.
Uh, but, uh, you'll, you know, you're
still going along a particular direction.
Uh, and so everyone will have their own
way of looking at things and not all gurus
are enlightened, and not everyone that
you go and do things with are enlightened.
And so be careful and, uh.
You can test.
Uh, Yohi always says, test and see
if doing this, uh, you're evolving.
So you ask the question, you ask the
question, I am evol evolving if I do this.
And you see what the pendulum says.
Uh, but yeah, if you really
wanna do it, your mind's gonna
tell you to do do it anyways.
So, uh, if you're not reusing radius
seizure, uh, so, but you can still
ask the questions and, and, uh, you
can probably get a better answer
than not asking the questions.
What about, can you do the, um, the
pendulum, like over a book and say,
is this gonna help my evolution?
Is this in alignment with my path?
Yeah.
Is that, uh, I am evolving if I read this
book and watch, watch, see if the pendulum
goes clockwise or counterclockwise.
Wonderful.
So, uh, here's one last question for you.
Um, what's a simple but powerful
shift that someone could make today
to feel more spiritually aligned?
Uh, just say, I am rethink, rethink.
I am.
That's it.
Or I am ee I am, but I am rethink,
rethink I am is a good one to begin
with because that sets you the,
sets the stage for everything else.
It sets the stage for you
getting to the I am state.
And if you state that your energy
automatically goes up and you start
thinking about that, and eventually
you'll figure out what I am is as
you start reading my book, uh, you'll
get that maybe a little quicker.
Uh, even without reading it, uh, things
will come into your life that will
sort of direct you in in that manner.
Things don't happen by chance.
Things happen because you're in
a particular direction and you're
willing to go where your heart leads.
You
follow the heart.
I love that.
Well, thank you very much, Jerry.
It's been a joy to talk with you.
If you'd like more information
about Jerry and his books,
visit his website@jerrygin.com.
That's J-E-R-R-Y-G-I n.com.
And his books once again, are the
Seeker and the teacher of light.
Uh, I'm just gonna show
these on screen here.
And Science, subtle Energies and
Spirituality, A Path to I Am.
And these books are a avail
available on Jerry's website.
Oh, and I did wanna also ask Jerry,
you're working on a new book with
your research associate, Meg Lund.
When will that book be available
and does it have a title yet?
Well, I hope it'll become
available sometime this year.
Uh, yes.
Birth of a New Humanity, uh, or
Birth of New Humanity and New Earth.
Uh, and it'll have a
section on thoughts also.
Uh, 'cause thoughts are really
what the I Am is all about.
'cause we're, the thoughts
are really behind all these
things.
Wonderful.
I will definitely be watching for
it and I look forward to reading it.
Thank you again, Jerry.
It's been a joy to talk with you and
to, to even grasp just some of your
wisdom and your insights and research.
Truly amazing.
And again, as I said
earlier, mind blowing.
Um, but perhaps someday in the future,
we'll come to a point where all of this
is just like everyday stuff, right?
That's the evolution of humanity.
So I wish you well in your continuing
journey as a brilliant seeker and
pursuer of knowledge and truth.
Thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, ANU.
Oh, wonderful being here and, uh, hope
the message gets out to the world, uh,
and the world sees some of this message
so that, uh, we continue to evolve.
Yes.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you.
So, in a moment, I'll be back with a short
recap of my conversation with Jerry, where
I'll pinpoint the resources, suggestions,
and guidance that Jerry shared in a way
that will make it as easy as possible for
you to take whatever you might have been
inspired by or that you found interesting,
and use it to help you in navigating
your own personal spiritual path.
Thank you for being here.
Wow.
That was quite a conversation with
Jerry Gin, and I'm so grateful to
him for joining me here on the second
episode of the Sole Unique podcast.
There's a lot to grok from this
episode, and as it is for every
episode, it's my intention to make the
resources that were mentioned as easy
for you to track down as possible.
And in addition to what was mentioned
in this episode, after our discussion,
Jerry provided me with a list of
other books he recommends highly that
were not mentioned in our discussion.
If you'd like to explore them further
and enhance your own path, the
books, concepts, and methodologies,
as well as the people that Jerry
mentioned in our conversation are
listed in detail@sounique.com.
And in the case of many of the
books mentioned, there are links
provided for where you can find them.
It is my intent as the so unique podcast
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