Hot Takes on Patient Healthcare and Nutrition

Join Bill LuMaye and  Jim Baker, a successful entrepreneur and owner of the 50 Cups Tea Company, as they discuss their "hot takes" on patient healthcare and the importance of nutrition. In this episode of '50 Cups Tea Company Hot Takes,' Jim shares personal anecdotes about his 85-year-old mother's struggles with the healthcare system, the unforeseen consequences of the Affordable Care Act, and the role of pharmaceuticals and insurance companies in maintaining a revenue stream rather than focusing on patient health. They also touch on doctors' lack of nutritional education and debunk widespread misconceptions about so-called 'healthy' foods like Cheerios and Gatorade. Jim advocates for self-education and personalized health management, emphasizing the significance of sunlight, vitamin D, and real food. The episode concludes with a heartwarming discussion on faith and the importance of a greater life purpose.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:52 Tea Time with Jim Baker

02:00 Patient Healthcare Concerns

02:08 Personal Healthcare Stories

04:40 Healthcare System Critique

07:02 Affordable Care Act and Its Impact

07:36 Pharmaceutical Influence on Healthcare

08:18 Chronic Conditions and Revenue Streams

10:42 Patient Advocacy and Self-Education

19:08 Nutrition and Healthcare

28:00 The Truth About Popular Health Drinks

28:41 Breaking Down Gatorade Ingredients

32:29 The Role of Government and FDA in Food Safety

37:56 The Importance of Vitamin D and Sunlight

46:30 Faith and Perspective on Health and Life

53:09 Concluding Thoughts and Optimism for the Future

Creators & Guests

Host

Bill LuMaye

Talk Host WPTF and Voice Over Talent

Host

Jim Baker

Author of "The Adventure Begins When The Plan Falls Apart" Converting a Crisis into Company Success, Jim is a husband and father of 4, Baker has spent the last 30 years in the business world as an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor. He had a successful exit in 2014 after owning and managing a CRO and functional services company, Ockham, specializing in Oncology. During that time prior to exit, Baker grew ASG and then Ockham both organically and through M&A. Over time Baker has experience in acquiring and selling companies, working with investment bankers, private equity, and mezzanine debt funding. In addition, has vast experience in business branding and managing and leading people. After the sale to Chiltern International, Baker started Sumus Development Group, an advisory business focused on operational excellence, exit strategy and marketing. In addition, Baker is an active investor in the business community.

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Podcast Studio 01: [00:00:00] there's a lot of doctors that end up getting their degrees and licenses that have never taken a nutrition course in their life. [00:00:15] [00:00:30]

Bill LuMaye: Ladies and gentlemen. It is the 50 Cups Tea Company Hot Takes. I'm Bill LeMay and Mr. Jim Baker is here with us. It's good to see you, Jim. You as well. How are [00:00:45] you? I'm doing well. Now, Jim, of course, you know as an author, he's an entrepreneur.

He's a very successful businessman. In fact, you are the owner of the 50 Cups Tea Company. We started each podcast off with a little t and I noticed you didn't forget today. So what do we have today? Just have [00:01:00] traditional

Jim Baker: iced. Black tea. Okay. And in our case, this is gonna be Earl Gray Tea. That's iced. And truth be told, I never really was a an iced Earl Gray fan, simply because I'd never tried it before.

I've always just done traditional black tea when you're making iced tea. [00:01:15] But this has a nice little taste to it and I add a little bit of lemon to it. There is no sugar, but for those out there, like it sweetened, you certainly can put some honey in it and and or some organic cane sugar. I wouldn't recommend anything else but those two things, [00:01:30] nonetheless.

So I'm gonna go ahead and pour some out at this point. Yeah. And absolutely as always we have specials on our website and we do the herbs, herbal teas. Oh, thank you. And we have the blocks as well. And, [00:01:45] hopefully you like it.

Bill LuMaye: You can just just send me the tea. You don't even have to bag it.

Just send it. Where do go? What's the address? Well, no, I mean that's

Jim Baker: true though. Yeah. Www 50 cups tea.com.

Bill LuMaye: Perfect. [00:02:00] Oh, well, let's get into the hot takes and I noticed the first one is Patient Healthcare. Man, that's a pretty broad topic. You could go anywhere on that one. What's your take on it, Jim?

Podcast Studio 01: I've been thinking recently that. My mom, for example, had a couple episodes this year. She's 85 [00:02:15] years old. Thankfully, and still pretty good health. But she's has AFib, which seems to be the diagnosed du jour, you know, for anybody over 65 at this point in time. And it's a heart condition. Yeah.

And they give you [00:02:30] a drug called Eliquis. And in my mom's case, the Eliquis is creates very severe bleeding issues if she was to cut herself, I. And some of the blood thinners in the past also [00:02:45] had that situation as well. And Eliquis was supposed to be one of the new lay levels of drug that, you know, could thin the blood, but at the same time, you know, still allow for some clotting.

And unfortunately she's been talking to the cardiologist about this [00:03:00] forever. And, you know, their cardiologist is focused primarily on making sure she doesn't have a stroke. Mm-Hmm. Or a heart attack and quote unquote. Don't worry, you're never gonna die from bleeding to death. Well, that's not true.

You people actually can die from bleeding [00:03:15] to death. I've heard

Bill LuMaye: of people dying from bleeding to death. Yes. And

Podcast Studio 01: so then she goes to her general practitioner. Mm-Hmm. And she says, why are you on Eliquis? I mean, there's no reason for you to be on Eliquis. You haven't had an AFib event for a while, et cetera, et cetera.[00:03:30]

So my mom always wants to drive wherever she goes. And thankfully she can still drive. Yeah. And so we do a little bit of beach vacation back in the 4th of July timeframe. And I, I asked her to come down and [00:03:45] she wanted to stay in her house a little bit longer than drive down by herself. I was reluctant to let her do that.

I. We had this battle back and forth. But at the end of the day, you know, mom wins, mom wins, and maybe it's good for her to drive too, you know? Yeah. So mom won and so she drove down, had a nice little break [00:04:00] and drove back and I called her up when she got back to make sure she got back okay. And she said, yeah, had a great time.

Well, about a day later, I get a call from one of my family spies. Yes. My daughter in this case who said, Hey, by the way. Grammy had a scratch on [00:04:15] her leg, a itch, and she was itching it while she was driving on an interstate, and she couldn't stop the bleeding. Oh my. So she had to pull over to a restaurant.

And thankfully there was some strangers there that were able to go in and buy some, [00:04:30] packing material for bandaids, gauze, et cetera, et cetera. And they ban her up and you know, thankfully the blood did stop at some point in time and she was able to proceed home. So taking that story into account, it just becomes more and [00:04:45] more evident to me that our healthcare system was never great, but it's becoming worse and worse over time.

And. I just look at my own personal situation on the Affordable Care [00:05:00] Act exchange three or four years ago, I think I had five or six choices of healthcare in our area. And today I have two mm-Hmm. And the price has gone from, let's just say it's gone up about a hundred percent. Yes. [00:05:15] In the last five years for worse, healthcare with higher deductibles.

So I then started doing some research and I. I remember I was on the Duke Children's Board a few years ago, [00:05:30] duke Children's Hospital Board.

Bill LuMaye: Right.

Podcast Studio 01: And they had a a guest speaker come in. And they do these annual biannual events basically, and they invite all the, they call 'em board of visitors from different parts of the school as well as the [00:05:45] the healthcare system, you know, to to come in and give you a nice dinner.

And basically it's a I love you, you know, type of meeting where Duke had kind of pat themselves in the back and Sure. They had a, a nurse practitioner speak that night and she talked [00:06:00] about going into the community to. Teach people how to become more healthy. And I thought to myself, you're not gonna do that for too long because Duke isn't getting paid [00:06:15] for people to become healthier.

If they do, they're not, they're not getting paid, reimbursed for the insurance company to do this, so therefore they're not gonna do it on a regular basis because they're taking a paid employee, putting them out into the field. And if they're effective, [00:06:30] then that means less people will come to the hospital.

Right, and insurance isn't gonna reverse that nurse practitioner to go out into the field. So at the end of the day, you're not, there's, that's insane. Well,

Bill LuMaye: that's what's happening, right? But that's ins, yes, it is happening, but it [00:06:45] is insane. Why would you not want to, it would seem for an insurance company from their perspective.

You want healthy people, right? Wouldn't you? You wouldn't have to pay out claims. Oh, right. Wait. Okay. I'm trying to deal in logic and common sense. I I, I'm gonna throw it [00:07:00] all away Now. Continue, Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: So once the Affordable Care Act was passed, if you recall, oh, there you go. Yes. Who were the big players in the Affordable Care Act?

There was the government. Yes, there was the insurance companies. Yes. And there were the pharmaceuticals? Yes. All right. So as an [00:07:15] aside, the, I think a lot of us have been going around telling people that the. F FDA is financially supported by the pharmaceutical industry up to 50%. They did send out a correction the other day by the FDA and they said no.[00:07:30]

50% is incorrect. It's actually 47%.

Bill LuMaye: Okay. Wow. Woo. Touched a bullet there. So,

Podcast Studio 01: if the pharmaceutical firms are supporting financially the FDA, what drugs do you think are never not gonna be approved? [00:07:45] Right. Well, of course, yes. So that's number one. Yeah. But let's set that aside for a second. So I, from what I understand, and it gets very complicated, and we don't have enough time today to go into all the details, but because the three parties were involved, [00:08:00] the structure I think that's been built since then was a structure that allows for the insurance companies and the pharmaceuticals to continue a, what I would call chronic.

[00:08:15] More like an annuity, a revenue stream for each patient. So the goal now with a doctor isn't to heal you. It's to maintain you on a drug. 'cause now the pharmaceutical gets paid. The insurance [00:08:30] companies, the way they do their math, they also make money on that. And obviously the hospital, the provider makes money on that as well.

And the provider obviously makes money on the visit. So they're incentivized now to. They get paid per visit. There is no [00:08:45] bonus. There is no incentive for you to come in once and for you to never come back in again. Now, yes, there are some penalties if you are in a hospital, for example. Mm-hmm. And you get discharged and for the same exact condition, you have to go back [00:09:00] in like two or three days later.

There is a penalty that the hospital has to pay. I would argue that that person that has to go back in probably would not be going back in for the same exact condition. I think you're pretty for the hospital can still get

Bill LuMaye: money, and I [00:09:15] don't think people saw the link, Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: So if our healthcare system is built now to, to see you, to maintain you, and obviously you've, and, and maybe you're not as familiar with this as I am since I was in the drug research business for a while.

Yeah. [00:09:30] None of these drugs that are being developed now other than, by the way, there's only three drug. There's only one class of drug that actually cures you. And those are antibiotics for infection? Yes. And our antibiotics are old and antiquated. There aren't new ones that are coming [00:09:45] out on a regular basis.

They've been genericized. There's not a lot of money in 'em. But this at the end of the but also there's not a trail of revenue for them. It's a one shot and you're done, so to speak, or maybe a second shot and you're done. But if I can put you on [00:10:00] Keytruda for lung cancer, for example and I can keep you on for three or four years, or if I could put you on a a drug that if you have a blood disorder that I'm gonna keep you on forever then.

Those drugs, by the [00:10:15] way, that aren't generic, are expensive drugs. They're 10, $15,000 a month, you know? And if you're on those for the next 20 years, giant revenue stream. Right? Right. So and by the way, in order for you to stay on those drugs. And you get to, and to get your script renewed [00:10:30] after let's say three or six or 10 or 12 refills, you must go see the practitioner.

Ah, so he gets

Bill LuMaye: a cut too.

Podcast Studio 01: Well, he's little office visit no matter what. Everybody's involved and everybody's sharing that pool of money, right? Yeah. And so the, the, the, the patient care [00:10:45] really is out of the patient's hands at this point, and it's forced all of us as patients. We have to be our adv, our own advocate.

And we can't

Bill LuMaye: settle for the status quo. But how do you do that? I mean, you probably would've a pretty good shot at it based on your knowledge [00:11:00] base, but for the average patient to even begin to understand now I'll say antibiotics, I'm well aware of that. And the, the, because now we're very concerned that there could become ineffective because of how often we use them.

[00:11:15] And yet what you just said seems to suggest. Nobody's doing anything to look for something better. So that's going to impact everybody. But even on a day-to-day basis, I'm on a lot of drugs. Honestly, Jim, I don't know if I need to be on 'em or not. I trust the doctor, so what do I do? I. [00:11:30] Oh, Jim, you're supposed to have answers.

Come on. I'm getting there. You wouldn't let me finish. Okay. I'm sorry. By the way, I

Podcast Studio 01: was savoring the the, by the way, your tea is delicious. It really is good. It's very refreshing this time of day. I mean, it's 90 degrees outside and yeah, it's [00:11:45] very, very good. Highly recommend it.

Bill LuMaye: Well, I won't interrupt you again.

I'm sorry.

Podcast Studio 01: I think what you have to do is you have to, and thankfully we have the internet. Yes. And thankfully there's a lot of information at our disposal and you have to, [00:12:00] you have to access that information. You really have to do a deep dive. Any medication you have, you have to look it up. You have to look up what the side effects are.

You have to look up, do I need to take this forever? You know, what are the markers that tells me that the medication is working? And then can I [00:12:15] go to that provider and say, by the way, if it's a blood pressure medication, for example. And you've been at, let's just say one 20 over 90 for a year now, and you're taking two pills a day.

Hey, can I go down to one pill a day to see if it stays at one 20 over 90? He [00:12:30] said, no drug is a good drug. I remember my research statistician telling me that a long time ago, no drug is a good drug because for where, for all the positives that it does for some people, there's could potentially be adverse effects.

And if you ever looked at the [00:12:45] packaging closely they have to by law. Tell you all the negative things, you know, that could potentially happen to you in that drug?

Bill LuMaye: Well, I've had some experience with that. My daughter was had a terrible [00:13:00] reaction to Tamiflu, so, no, I do look at that. I look at the side effects and if there's even a, a remote chance, no matter how remote that it could trigger the episode she had.

I'll try everything I can to avoid that. And you know what, I have noticed that the [00:13:15] doctors have been very helpful in that respect, although sometimes I get that you're out of your mind, look from them, but they, they tend to help. But there's so much medical information there that most people don't understand.

But I do [00:13:30] understand that. Yeah. Like anything else, you have to take responsibility for yourself and your family. So if you don't love yourself enough, and maybe your kids, and maybe that'll be the imp impetus for you to get going on that.

Podcast Studio 01: Yeah. Or you know, if you're uncomfortable talking to the doctor, then if you're [00:13:45] older, bring your son or your daughter in with you.

Mm-Hmm. Bring an ADV patient advocate. There's, you know, nurses now that have left the healthcare system that have started their own patient advocate companies and they can speak the lingo. They can go with you on visits. It's gonna cost you some money. Mm-Hmm. But ultimately, what's [00:14:00] your, what's your, what's your.

Life worth. Right. So, you know, if, unfortunately I think our system is, is built now where it's all about transactions. And I'm not laying the [00:14:15] blame on the doctors on this. I think a lot of 'em have very good intentions, but you know, they're in a system where they can't maximize their. Compensation. They can't spend enough time with patients, to truly treat them based [00:14:30] on the system that's been built since 2010.

Really.

Bill LuMaye: Well, and that I think is an indication or, or you can tie it directly back to Obamacare and that it, a lot of these doctors who were in practice for themselves, for instance. Got bought up and they became [00:14:45] corporate in order to, to deal with the new whatever it is that Obamacare created. So I just wonder if you're in it to treat people how frustrating that must be for doctors, for instance, who want to make you healthy, but because the system doesn't allow 'em [00:15:00] to do it, it's gotta be not only frustrating, but I mean, why, why do it then?

Podcast Studio 01: Well, I think on the positive side, you're seeing that, you know, there's a lot of practitioners that are leaving to start off their own functional medicine. Yes practices, holistic medicine [00:15:15] practices where they're actually looking at what is actually causing all these autoimmune diseases. Why?

Through our, does our under 18 population, 56% of them are on some type of medication, whereas in [00:15:30] 1998 it was 14%. And so, but they don't want to hear that, you know, they, you know, the vaccine not to get into the vaccine controversy, but you know, this day and age, a newborn potentially could get up to 60 [00:15:45] shots on the first day the baby's born.

They are. Given a Hepatitis B shot which by the way, you can only get Hep B through in intravenous drug use and it transmitted sexually well. I don't think a [00:16:00] newborn's gonna have that issue. And the mother's already been tested, so she doesn't have it. So there's no carrying from the mother, but it's prescribed.

Right. And then they get erythromycin on their eyes, so they're already getting. You know, some type of a lotion with additives and [00:16:15] chemicals in it on top of an antibiotic that's going on their eyes to prevent a one in trillion situation eye infection. So that newborn is literally born and within two hours of life, they're potentially given these two treatment options.

Well, it seems

Bill LuMaye: [00:16:30] like this whole medical industry is based on trust. A mom with a baby, a newborn, and a dad. They're really trusting whoever it is that's providing the care to do the right thing. You know, and whether, whether it's vaccines or not, you're, you're seeing autism go [00:16:45] crazy. I mean, they're looking at a half the population being autistic into the not too distant future or we talked about testosterone too, and the, how it's been lowered by a great deal for people today compared to my, my father [00:17:00] or your granddad.

All of this. It could be environmental, it could be even they're talking about social media for anxiety. I don't know. They, they seem to be finding all kinds of reasons why, but nothing seems to be. Being done about it, Jim?

Podcast Studio 01: No,

Bill LuMaye: it's

Podcast Studio 01: because I don't, there's, there's no [00:17:15] incentive to look into it. Excellent.

'cause of the way our system has been set up now with those three players controlling our system, you really think if vaccines are causing autism, we don't know, but let's look [00:17:30] into it. It's our children. Shouldn't our children be healthy? Because if you're sick as a kid, you're not gonna be healthy as an adult in most cases.

So now you're in the system visiting doctors, getting medication for as long as you live. Well, that's a [00:17:45] windfall for the insurance company. That's a windfall for the pharmaceutical industry as well. But that to me, simply put, you know, trumps any type of research that potentially could be done [00:18:00] out there, you know, to look at either eliminating Mm-hmm, you know.

That cause as the vaccine cause for autism or if there is some issues there, then we gotta fix it,

Bill LuMaye: right? Well, yes, you'd [00:18:15] think we would've learned a little something from the Covid episode where so much of what we were told was not truthful. Right. And and now we have people that have been hurt by the whole system.

You know, I gotta take a sip of tea. I'm sorry. This is too much. I get angry over this, Jim. I really [00:18:30] do. Because, well, it's frustrating,

Podcast Studio 01: but, so I think, but, but I think the solution. As what I said before, you have to take things into your own hands, and if you're not feeling well. And you've been going to the doctor and they're prescribing and they're just telling you it's old age.

Or if you're a [00:18:45] woman, they're telling you, you, you know, you have some, you know, mental health issues around menopause and whatever. That's just simply not true. You know, go find people, you know that. And they're out there now. You just have to look. But go find people that actually will sit down, we'll [00:19:00] talk to you, we'll listen to you, we'll look at your symptoms and run tests.

And hopefully, you know, look at what might be beneficial for you. And I think, you know, not to parlay into the next topic, but no doctor [00:19:15] wants to blame food as we define it today. Yes. As a culprit for a lot of our ailments. Well, and there's a reason for that, why the majority of medical school [00:19:30] classes do not include nutrition.

So there's a lot of doctors that end up getting their degrees and licenses that have never taken a nutrition course in their life.

Bill LuMaye: I wish there was something stronger in the T because you're starting [00:19:45] to get me a little angry because these are people that are, listen, you go into a profession for a variety of reasons, but you would like to think a, a physician is going into it because they have a desire to heal and help.

[00:20:00] [00:20:15] [00:20:30] it is almost epidemic. It's almost everywhere, Jim. You're not being taught what you need to be taught, whether you're in grade school or whether you're a soon to be doctor. And when you [00:20:45] talk about food, well, what is food now? Do we even know? Now you, you're very health conscious. You know, we talk about your teeth a lot and, and the health benefits to that.

And I think food has a lot to do [00:21:00] with our health. Last time I looked, I. You ever see the beach pictures from the sixties? Yeah. Versus today? Yeah. I mean, there's a real problem going on here. Yeah. So why don't we define what real food is? Do you know what it is? Because, well, I mean, [00:21:15] food

Podcast Studio 01: is supposed to be good for you.

It's supposed to provide nutrition for your body so your body can function in its optimal form. Yes. It's not supposed to fill you up. It is not supposed to not make you hungry make you full or, or hungry. [00:21:30] It's simply, it's a, a food are nutrients that your body needs to, to sustain itself for life. So when you look at Cheerios, let's say yes and pardon me, I'm gonna put my glasses on for a second.

[00:21:45] I brought this up because Cheerios has been and I'm just as guilty as this 'cause I ate Cheerios for a number of years in my younger adult life and certainly thought it was a great health cereal for my kids growing up. Mm-Hmm. [00:22:00] And I figured, well, lemme just look up what the ingredients is for Cheerios today.

So we have whole grain oats, so whenever you're looking at an ingredient packet, you wanna look at it. The first. Ingredient is always what is [00:22:15] most in that box, for example. Alright. All right. And then it kind of goes down from there. Alright, well, whole

Bill LuMaye: grain doesn't sound bad.

Podcast Studio 01: Whole grain oats. Well, the thing is they're not non GMO whole grain oats, so they've been modified.

Okay, [00:22:30] explain that they're not Okay. So I think in the early nineties we allowed for genetically modified organisms, GMOs, where research, I think all the intentions were good by the way. Where they could [00:22:45] basically take, you know, oats for example. And they could do something with those oats.

Taking a gene here, doing a molecule here, doing this, doing that to make them more robust when it comes to pesticides. Make them grow faster [00:23:00] whatever it is, but we have no idea for, from genetically modifying food that we ingest on a daily basis, what is that gonna do to the human body in the long run?

We don't know. So number one, they're not genetically modified.

[00:23:15] Right? All right. And I think I explained why, what GMOs are a few minutes ago. But at the end of the day, they're, they're, they've been modified. That's probably the best way to de describe it. Okay. So we don't know what that's gonna do to your body [00:23:30] long term. Right. Number two, that's true. This is not an organic pro product, meaning that those oats have been sprayed with pesticides.

Ooh, not good. Alright. And you brought up [00:23:45] earlier this lower of testosterone. Right. And they're basically endocrine disruptors. So Gly roundup, the, the, the brand term for lack of a better term, is sprayed everywhere. Yes. I've used and industrial farming. Yes. [00:24:00] So you're ingesting, you can't get rid of Roundup, you can't wash it out.

You can't boil it out. You can't. It's heat it out, it stays in the product. So we are ingesting Roundup on a daily basis in foods that we [00:24:15] potentially eat. So is Roundup, for example. And they've had multiple co court cases in the last four or five years. Mostly with people working closely with the pesticide itself that have gotten these wildfire cancers.

And bear by the way, [00:24:30] bought Monsanto, who is the inventor and maker of. Roundup Bear is a German pharmaceutical firm. Mm-Hmm. So they treat patients to hopefully allow them to live longer, but they now own the chemical company that's actually hurting [00:24:45] and killing patients. So they get a revenue in both areas.

It's from a business perspective, it's brilliant. So, yes. Not to, not to focus on bear, but you can look it up. Bear does own Monsanto. They bought them. So the, [00:25:00] so it's, it's not organic and therefore your children, your 9-year-old kid, you know, that you think is eating heart healthy cereal every single day is actually ingesting pesticides and non and g OED food.

All right. [00:25:15] The second ingredient on this is corn starch. Well, that doesn't sound harmful. Corn starch. Well, it's, it's one of the 256, definitions of sugar that the FDA allows.

Bill LuMaye: Oh, okay.

Podcast Studio 01: Okay. Number three is sugar. So [00:25:30] now we have two sugars in the cereal in the top three. All right. All right. Number four. We gotta throw a little salt in there.

Bill LuMaye: Of course.

Podcast Studio 01: All right. Number five. We have a thing called, he's gotta put [00:25:45] potassium, potassium phosphate. Wow. And then you might ask, what is tri potassium phosphate?

Bill LuMaye: Yes, indeed.

Podcast Studio 01: And basically it's was originally. Brought out. And it was traditionally used in [00:26:00] industrial and residential cleaning during our detergents, our degreasers and our mildew removers.

So I don't believe that we want to ingest Cheerios because we wanna have a cleaner body inside. So anyhow, that's what it was used for initially. Wow. [00:26:15] So they decided to throw in food and it's a, it's a, they claim it's a food additive and it basically this main utilizations of include its functions as a thickening agent, acidity, regulator, [00:26:30] emulsifier and nutritional enlargement product, whatever that

Bill LuMaye: means.

I don't know what that means. So basically,

Podcast Studio 01: I think at the end of the day, it just means that your little cheerio that you're looking at is gonna keep its form. For a lot longer than it otherwise would if this [00:26:45] product wasn't in there. All right. So question is is, I'll call it tp, is TP bad for you? And, it is believed to cause kidney damage, soft tissue calcification, [00:27:00] and bone calcium removal.

Continuous ingestion over a long period of time is linked to bone density diseases such as osteoporosis. Also has intestinal and stomach lining orientation and lactic acid [00:27:15] reduction in muscles. Now, according to the FDA 47% owned by drug companies, mm-hmm, you are allowed to safely consume 70 grams of the additive every day without risk any health issues.

However, [00:27:30] the fact that so many popular foods contain TSP, so for example, if you're eating Cheerios. Of course, then you go get a, a jersey mike sub for lunch. A lot of the cold cuts have it in it. If you're gonna have a little snack in the afternoon maybe some [00:27:45] popcorn bag popcorn or some, some other type of thing, well, you could be getting hundreds of grams a day of, of this product.

You just simply have no idea. Wow. So that's in our Cheerios that we probably feed our kids and ourselves every day. 'cause we've been [00:28:00] taught. That if we eat our Cheerios, we're not gonna have a heart attack

Bill LuMaye: in the future, but that's what we're eating. This sounds, well, I always thought putting all that sugar on was really bad for me, but now I'm beginning to wonder what foods I should eat.

Jim? Yes. If the FDA isn't responsible,

Podcast Studio 01: [00:28:15] well, let's go to the number two or three branded healthcare drink in the world. That popular athletes. Are on the commercials, drinking? Yes. After they've won NBA [00:28:30] championships and Yeah. Track meets and everything else. What would that be?

Bill LuMaye: That would be Gatorade.

Oh, I have some in the car. Oh, no. I'm gonna pour it out, aren't I? Yes. Tell, tell me. Okay. Tell me what, how bad it is. So we have water. Well, that's okay.

Podcast Studio 01: Yep. Then we have [00:28:45] SUP sucrose,

Bill LuMaye: sugar. Okay.

Podcast Studio 01: Then we have dextrose.

Bill LuMaye: Dextrose. I don't more sugar. Okay.

Podcast Studio 01: Then we have citric acid.

Bill LuMaye: Preservative. Okay.

Podcast Studio 01: Citric acid, by the way, isn't you squeezing an orange in that citric acid?

It's actually a industrial [00:29:00] product that is used to preserve, and your body can't methylate it, so you need to, 53% of the country excuse I sent the country of the world have a gene that won't, that, that, excuse me. They don't [00:29:15] have the gene that allows for methylation. So it creates stomach irritability over time.

Oh wow. Then we have mono potassium phosphate, the other phosphate again. Okay. So that's probably, again, to [00:29:30] keep its robust color and flavoring and everything else. And then it's got various flavoring and coloring ingredients on top of that. So some Gatorade flavor variations also contain brominated vegetable oil as a stabilizer.[00:29:45]

Bill LuMaye: Well, the fact that you can pronounce those words, I am impressed, Jim, but, but if you have to really think if you have to look 'em up to pronounce 'em, I always, I always worry about what it actually does to your body. But this is Gatorade, so if you have a bullet Cheerios and Gatorade, you're not off [00:30:00] to a great start today.

You're not.

Podcast Studio 01: And sadly, again you know, we're in this soccer crazed area that we live in, and I see these wonderful kids every day with their backpacks. Going to soccer practice and [00:30:15] 99% of them, I shouldn't say that, that's, that's exaggerating. A large portion of them in, I think in all in good faith by their moms or dads.

Mm-Hmm. Pack them their Gatorade that they can

Bill LuMaye: drink. I do [00:30:30] that every morning. My daughter puts one in her backpack and goes off.

Podcast Studio 01: Yeah,

Bill LuMaye: not anymore, but I had no idea. I had no, nobody knows this, Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: And it's, that's why I'm saying you gotta take control. I know, but, and you gotta look it up and you gotta say you really want to [00:30:45] drink a drink that has all this stuff in it when you could just simply, and sadly, this is a different podcast.

But our water isn't pure. No, I know that. So this is being made in some giant manufacturing plant [00:31:00] somewhere. They're pulling water from whatever local source of water there is. If you just simply take our water here and carry, it's loaded with chemicals.

Jim Baker: Mm-hmm.

Podcast Studio 01: Chlorine, phosphates, bunch of other stuff, right.

To keep it quote unquote [00:31:15] clean. Right. So. So you're the, the biggest ingredient in this thing is water, but you're not even, you're getting chemical water in addition to all the other chemicals that you're getting in the drink. And now we're wondering why people aren't healthy. [00:31:30] And when we go to the doctor, back to the doctor real quick.

Yes. And we say, Hey, could Gatorade be no? Could Cherry no. Could, you know high fat [00:31:45] diet with steak. Nope. Terrible for you. Make sure you get low fat. Make sure it's loaded with chemicals and you're gonna be fine. Right? They, they never look at food as a possible, but they're not taught that unless you go to an allergist.

Yes. But they're not taught that. No. [00:32:00] And also by the way, if you ever go to a fat doctor leave, because if he doesn't believe or she doesn't believe in health and she's trying to treat you Yep. Then

Bill LuMaye: you're not gonna be treated the proper way. Hm. I'm not even gonna write that down because that, so [00:32:15] as your doctor, how many miles a week they

Podcast Studio 01: run?

How many days a week did they exercise? Look at them, you know, if they look like they're in great shape, well, you might be onto something, but they look like they're a bunch of TA goo and you know, maybe you want to go someplace else.

Bill LuMaye: That's an excellent point. [00:32:30] You know, all of this again, we rely on government far too much.

Okay. But we do rely on government to do the things that. People just either don't have the time or the ability to, to, to comprehend [00:32:45] what's in a bottle of Gatorade. We rely on them, Jim, I know to test this stuff and make sure that it isn't gonna hurt us or kill us. And yet it seems that we, in order for a cheerio to stay in its shape for a little bit longer, it could actually cause us some [00:33:00] harm.

So. Why do we have government, Jim? I mean, if this is some of the, these are some of the things that people say, we need government for this, and this would be a good reason if they actually did their job. But you're telling me, Jim, you're telling me they're in bed with the [00:33:15] pharmaceuticals because they pay half of the F fda.

Well, it's true. Look at that budget.

Podcast Studio 01: Don't,

Bill LuMaye: don't believe me. Look it up. Well,

Podcast Studio 01: I

Bill LuMaye: believe you, Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: That's why, and I just don't think if you're, if I, if listen. I donate, you know, to some causes and, [00:33:30] mostly children's education. And I'm a donor and I, I'm gonna want to expect that the school's doing what I want that school to do.

And why would that be any different for a pharmaceutical firm? And [00:33:45] sadly, the news organizations, the media's not gonna call that out. No. Because if you've watched any commercial at any time it's especially during the Olympics. Dominated by pharmaceutical ads dominated, and we're the one of two countries in the entire [00:34:00] world that allow the, the pharmaceutical firms to advertise on tv.

Bill LuMaye: Well, I think Europe has a, a healthier approach to the food as well. Do they Percent? Yes. Do not ban? Yes.

Podcast Studio 01: Well, their main simply put, if you want to add a food in to [00:34:15] get it approved, you have to prove that it's good for you. In our world, in the United States, you have to prove that it's not bad for you.

So you don't have to worry about it being good for you. You just have to prove it's not bad for you.

Bill LuMaye: Well, government has given us the food pyramid [00:34:30] initially. Mm-Hmm. Which has got us all obese and very unhealthy. So if there's a lesson to be taken from all of this is you have to be an independent thinker and take the responsibility for yourself and your family, which is gonna require a [00:34:45] lot of work because we eat a lot of different foods.

It seems like the foods that are, I thought good for you. Like strawberries meat. And one time we, we believed those were healthy foods, and yet they seem to be saying over and over again that these foods are not good [00:35:00] for you. I don't know where it's coming from, but certainly they gotta be healthier than a bottle of cater.

Right?

Podcast Studio 01: Well, it did not, wasn't like three or four months ago, they FDA came out with like the 10 most healthy foods, and I think Lucky Charms was like number one or number two. I didn't see that. Which was absolutely preposterous, right? Yes, [00:35:15] exactly. Again, look it up. I'm not sure exactly what the timeframe was, but I think it was within the last year.

So I guess the saddest part of this whole story is you and I probably have choices and other people have choices where we can Mm-Hmm. Have [00:35:30] access to information. We can go to a grocery store and buy on the outside. Mm-Hmm. Not on the inside outside's where all the fresh food is, where all the processed food is, and we can buy organic, which costs more money.

Great point. So reduce. It's not [00:35:45] gonna eliminate, but you can reduce your pesticide consumption. Right? But the average person, they can't do that. No they can't. And with inflation, this, this day and age, oh man, you know, they can't afford probably a lot of the good food and they're therefore buying the cheap stuff that's on the shelf thinking it's good for them and [00:36:00] it's only potentially, it's not even food, but ultimately it could end up being harm in them.

Bill LuMaye: In fact, I think the poorer you are, the worst. You actually eat? Potentially. Yeah. And it's, it's really quite [00:36:15] sad. doctors that I go to and I say, you know, gee, I take a lot of vitamin DII do, they begin to look at you and go they almost give you that look.

Like why are you wasting your time? Right. I have this new drug you can take here and your insurance will pay for it. [00:36:30] Is the medical community open-minded enough to recommend? I don't know, things like sunlight, vitamin D, dermatologist, I mean vitamins. I remember the Flintstones chewables, the, and I don't know how healthy they are, but you know what I'm [00:36:45] saying.

There are other ways to get healthy other than popping up pills.

Podcast Studio 01: There are, I mean, absolutely are, and you know, obviously it starts with, traditional life, you know, being outdoors, eating good food that's comes from the [00:37:00] earth. You know, a cow comes from the earth, right? Lettuce, fruits, you know, anything that's earth based that we lived off of really until, what, 50 years [00:37:15] ago?

Mm-Hmm. If you look back at the data, you'd probably see that there was, there weren't any autoimmunes back then, for the most part. Right. You know, there certainly weren't these, all these other chronic issues at this point in time. Heart disease might be [00:37:30] the same simply because they, you know, everybody smoked back then.

But now that that's been eliminated, heart disease is still the same. Cancers were less back then than they are now. So, you know, you just gotta of think about, you know, what is it, you know, that you really need to do. [00:37:45] You know, as a human from a, a food standpoint. And then obviously if you do get sick, you know, from, from making sure that you have enough information to really be your own advocate, you know, when you're talking to these doctors.

But sunlight, yes. We wouldn't exist without sun. [00:38:00] This is true. We wouldn't exist. I've heard it's good. It's, it's really good for you. Obviously UVB, ultraviolet B Yes. Is the. The primary [00:38:15] ray that allows for the body to receive and absorb vitamin D, right? Vitamin D is important, is it not? Right? In this particular case, vitamin D three is the primary vitamin D that you know is [00:38:30] you need to survive healthly.

I mean, you could survive very sickly with low vitamin D, but you need to be. You know, up over 60, you know, preferably between 60 and a hundred. And the government says that you need to be [00:38:45] around 30 just so you don't get rickets. Well, they did a study a few years ago and they just literally talked about the flu shot, and they said that.

Most flu shots are 3% effective for some people, not all people. And [00:39:00] the flu shot that you get is based on the flu strand from the year before? Yes. Right now there're, I think there are some of them shots might be mixing up the, the Covid vac within 'em too. So now you're getting into two for one deal and the, but the vitamin D, if [00:39:15] you were at if you were over 60.

You added like an 800% less chance of getting the flu by simply taking a supplement that is pennies on the dollar compared to the flu shot and compared to all these other [00:39:30] antivirals that you'll need to take once you get your flu. And the was free in this whole thing is sunlight and you literally need 15 to 20 minutes, three times a week of sunlight.

You won't get burned. [00:39:45] You don't need to have sunscreen on, you just need to simply be out there and for 15 to 20 minutes enjoy it. The most optimal sunlight is at [00:40:00] 35 longitude and below, so Raleigh, North Carolina. It is right at 35. Well, there

Bill LuMaye: you

Podcast Studio 01: go. Right? There's no

Bill LuMaye: excuse. Yeah. Right. And

Podcast Studio 01: the further south you go, the, the lower it becomes, which means that you get more sun.

Right, right. [00:40:15] So Charlottesville, Virginia, for example, is at 38. So three three hours up the road, a little bit higher on the longitudinal scale. So doesn't mean you can't get new nutrients out of the sun in the north. Obviously you can. But much better in the [00:40:30] summertime than it would be in the wintertime up there.

So we don't get vitamin D for the most part from a lot of our food sources. We get a little bit of it from meat. That's usually vitamin D two mm-Hmm. We get it from some fish [00:40:45] salmon mackerel, for example. And some vegetables, which I can't remember which they, what they are, but they're, they're not the common ones that are a little bit off the grid, so to speak.

So in order for you to get your D three, you need either supplement. [00:41:00] Or you have to, you know, probably do both actually go out in the sunlight and at the same time, you know, supplement for that. And again, goal is to be over 60. Now your traditional doctor to get back to them again, they're probably [00:41:15] going to, some of them will be concerned if you're up over 90 to a hundred.

'cause they're gonna tell you you might have toxic toxicity. The only way you can truly be toxic if you're taking was it. 7 million [00:41:30] IUs a day for five months. That's the only way you could get toxic. Wow. So even if you're at a hundred, you wanna keep your doctor happy, maybe tone it down a little bit, but for the most part, you're gonna be perfectly fine at a hundred.

Bill LuMaye: That's good to know, because that actually happened to [00:41:45] me just the other day when I had my latest physical and I, I think I was 90 and they said I was high. But you know, in everything you've said so far today, and I don't wanna. Take you off track from the sunlight, because that seems very easy to do, [00:42:00] but it also suggests a lifestyle.

You know, when I was a kid, we played outside, right? People worked outside. It, it wasn't a very difficult, it was a, it was even a life choice really for a lot of people. You had to do it, and yet we were healthier. If you go back in time, you said it, [00:42:15] we were healthier. Adults were healthier, kids were healthier.

You weren't overweight, you didn't see the autism, you didn't see the autistic kids like you do today. So it seems the more advanced we get, if that's what you want to [00:42:30] call it with the pharmaceuticals and medical practices and. It seems a sicker week at Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: Well, if you think about it, you know, if you take a typical adult, let's say, that's in an office now and not working from home, or even working from home, you know, they'll get up in the morning [00:42:45] you know, the sun's just coming up, you know, if they do exercise great, but they're not really out in the sunlight, you know, per se.

Then they come in, probably get something to eat, and then they get in their car and they go to the office or. They, you know, go from their kitchen to their, their [00:43:00] office somewhere in their house, and now they're indoors, you know, for the majority of the day. Let's say they finish at five o'clock at night.

You know, maybe they gotta run their kids around someplace or whatever, but they're probably not going outside at that point in time and laying down in the grass, you know, getting sun [00:43:15] raised. So your body, the human American body, probably is not exposed to sunlight at all Monday through Friday, and then recreationally on Saturday and Sunday, you probably have a chance of getting some sunlight.

I. But what are, what have most of us been trained to do? Lather up. [00:43:30] That's right. We're gonna put this sunscreen on us. That's gonna block UVA and UVB rays, so it's blocking the good ray. And then we're told to apply every five seconds. 'cause whether you have a 15 or a 30, it could wash off, you could sweat it off, et cetera, et cetera.

And [00:43:45] also, if you looked at sunscreen ingredients, which we didn't go into today, there's a lot of chemicals in those ingredients as well that are absorbing into your skin. Oh my goodness. So. The body is not getting enough sunlight just simply by lifestyle today. So now you have to make it [00:44:00] a point, you know, to stop your day, to get outside to, to make sure you get your sunlight.

But you're right. I mean, the old days, that wasn't a problem.

Bill LuMaye: Today

Podcast Studio 01: it's a problem

Bill LuMaye: it seems. If you just turn off and stop listening to some of these experts, you'd be a heck of a [00:44:15] lot healthier.

Podcast Studio 01: So a couple things that it does, right? Obviously vitamin D yeah, strengthens bones kills bacteria, may reduce blood pressure, high, high, high blood pressure.

Sunlight can also [00:44:30] improve sleep quality just through the whole circadian rhythm, et cetera, et cetera. So you know, if your body knows that the sun is setting, you know, then that's, that. That's at the internal clock that. It tells it's time to go to sleep, but if again, you've been indoors all day, you don't have a [00:44:45] windowed office, you know you're coming home at night, you know, you're eating, you're checking email and everything else, your body may not even know it's dark out, you know?

And then obviously if you know, you're getting your sleep and you're. Feeling refreshed and your vitamin D's up and [00:45:00] everything else, your mood's gonna be better 'cause you're gonna feel better. And last, and obviously it can boost your immune system and it can be associated with weight loss as well.

So it's the only way this planet can exist by having sunlight. So it makes no [00:45:15] sense for humans not to be in it.

Bill LuMaye: So maybe we shouldn't block the sun, like just yet for global warming. I don So it sounds like it's, it's a necessity. Yeah, but it, if you wanna be healthy, it just seems if we could adopt some of our lifestyle, we once had it.

And for even when we talked about the [00:45:30] food, it, people are so busy to take the time to sit down and research. I don't know if they have the time. It seems we're we're moving forward into, things getting worse. In fact, our life expects to say, I believe dropped the last two years. That's correct, yes. And they're trying to [00:45:45] scratch their head and figure it out.

I think you may have figured it out, Jim.

Podcast Studio 01: The drops are inventory rates the highest in the first world countries. Yes. And we're supposed to be this, you know, robust, healthy, most powerful nation on earth. Yeah. And our population is [00:46:00] sicker than three quarters of the first world population at this point in time.

In any way, shape or form.

Bill LuMaye: We gotta change that. I mean, where do we go from here? I mean, I, I've listened to you and I've, your [00:46:15] tea's delicious. I've drank it. It's delicious. But my faith's a little shaken only because, it seems like there's a lot of work here for an individual to try to stay healthy when it used to be just kind of living [00:46:30] natural.

Podcast Studio 01: why I feel compelled to talk about this and why you probably feel compelled to join me is that, you know, we have faith. You know, we do, we, we think we're here for a larger purpose than just enjoying the fruits of our labor, [00:46:45] our families and the life that we live. And, you know, at, at the end of the day, you're not, you can't take your money with you.

You know, you can't take your cars with you and. You can't even take your family with you. You know you're gonna [00:47:00] die. And, you know, I truly believe that there's, there's life after death and I believe in Christ, and I believe in God. And I think he put me here for a reason. And if I leave tomorrow, hopefully I've made a difference in this world.

Not through this [00:47:15] podcast, but just with other things that I've done Mm-Hmm. In my life. And so, I think that's refreshing at times because you kind of, as you go through life, you. You get into a rhythm, right? And you know, you're, you're still faith-based, but you [00:47:30] know, maybe that becomes second or third, you know, sometimes.

And yeah. And then certain things, you know, occur in some cases, tragedies. But in other cases, you know, somebody drops a book at you or somebody you know, [00:47:45] reminds you of this or reminds you of that, and then bang, you're brought back into reality. And, it's and I think if, for those that don't have any faith, it, it, it must be wildly depressing, you know to, to live because [00:48:00] your, all your short term satisfaction is just what it is.

It's short term. You know, oh, I had a great day at the beach. Well now what? You know geez, I had a great time with my dog today, but now what? Whereas if you have faith, you know, you recognize that those, those great times are, [00:48:15] are, you appreciate them, they're part of something that's bigger. So you're not always thinking, well, now what you're thinking, well, can't wait to, for the next day to see what's gonna happen at that point in time.

It's almost like social media. I mean, you scroll down and they're feeding you [00:48:30] whatever they're feeding you and you're like looking and looking, looking and you're thinking. I'm not feeling any better. You know, I can't, I can't, like I can't get off it. Right? Yeah. So but, but if you just put it all down, you know, and you just look at life and, and I was [00:48:45] walking this morning and sun was rising and I'm like, and today's a beautiful day.

I mean, the sky's super blue, you know, got the sun out, got my sunlight in. You know, thankfully everybody's healthy and my family at this point in time, they haven't been. But you know, that's what it's [00:49:00] about. And there has to be a reason why. This all, why do we get this? You know, why are we different than a cow and an ant?

Why? You know, and it's not, I just don't believe it's a bunch of molecules luckily got together at some point in time and, you know, we ended up [00:49:15] being who we are today. You know, why do we have free will? Right? How did all this start? You know? Oh, big bang, great. Well, who started the Big Bang? I mean, something had to have happened, right?

And I just think to myself, you know, that's what. I don't really care who wins the presidential election. Certainly I have my, [00:49:30] my choices, but it's not gonna change my life. You know, I'm gonna move on. And but there are people out there that are terrified of one candidate over the other getting elected, and like, that's who cares.

You know, it's theater, it's fun to watch, you know, it's fun to [00:49:45] be vested in a little bit, but, you know, so what, you know, it's like you're gonna die at some point in time. And then are you prepared? You know, to move on and, and hopefully live in eternity someplace else.

Bill LuMaye: I can't imagine not having faith [00:50:00] because the time here is very short.

I don't care how old you grow before you pass, it goes by so quickly to not believe there's nothing. I mean, if you believe there's nothing I. I mean, that would be a [00:50:15] frightening death to me. But, and I don't, and I agree with you, Jim. I don't know how you step up and every day and try to do good or even want to do good for anybody.

And but I have faith too, and I mentioned to you, and I'll just say my, my dad [00:50:30] just passed. So we've gone through that, that self examination, those events you have in your life and you realize when it comes to this. And you'll feel, I bet you do too. You feel it inside when you, when you have that prayer, when you have [00:50:45] that communication with God or that aha moment inside you because of an event.

It's a real physical kind of thing that happens. So not to preach, 'cause I don't wanna do that, but it, it is an amazing [00:51:00] thing, faith. And you're right. None of this matters. None of it matters. Ultimately, we're all gonna be we're gonna be somewhere and I'm hoping it's a wonderful place. Well, not so much a lot of music though, but I mean, you know, a [00:51:15] wonderful place and I'm

Podcast Studio 01: sorry for your loss, obviously.

Oh, thank you. Yes. My dad died when I was, when he was 53 and I was 24. And, you know, for a while there I, I, I never got mad. But it happened so fast. Yeah. He was diagnosed [00:51:30] and within two months he was dead. So I never, wow. That's fast. None of us ever got a chance to say goodbye to him. Yeah. He probably thought he was gonna beat his cancer and obviously that didn't happen and he had a stroke and he passed away.

But, the, but looking back [00:51:45] on it now, you know, the negative is sure, you know, my kids never got to know their grandfather. Mm-Hmm. But the positive is, you know, he's with me every day still, you know, he lives with me and I had a great. You know, 24 years with him. Wow. And you know, you had a great 70 years [00:52:00] with him.

Yes, right. Or 60 or 50 with, 'cause you're a young guy. Yeah. Thank you

Bill LuMaye: doing

Podcast Studio 01: that. And but, but you also have the benefit.

Bill LuMaye: I've been out in the sun lately. Maybe that's why it looks No, but No. Yes. But you

Podcast Studio 01: also have the honor and the benefit Yes. Because you were his son that your [00:52:15] family thinks highly enough of you to be able to do the eulogy.

Yeah. That's tough. Right? Yeah. And I think most people will look at that and say. I'm sad. I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to get through it 'cause you're gonna be thinking about yourself. But if you're thinking about God and you're thinking about what he, [00:52:30] what gifts he gave you, you know, then hopefully that allows you then to be not happy that he passed.

But celebration, celebratory, you know, in your eulogy going forward because of the gratefulness you've had of. Your father and [00:52:45] wife and everything else. Exactly. And so I think just you have to look at it a little bit differently.

Bill LuMaye: Well, I think that faith is powerful and especially at times when the world looks pretty bleak, like when it comes to food and the patient healthcare.

No, I'm serious though. I mean, it's all these things that [00:53:00] impact your life knowing that there's something much greater and you got your back. That's that's pretty, that's pretty powerful, I think.

Podcast Studio 01: And that's why I'm mostly optimistic that we are gonna fix the food. It's gonna take a long time. Yeah.

And we're all gonna fix the healthcare system. [00:53:15] It's gonna take a long time also, but I, I think there's a movement out there. I think it's growing significantly and I think people are tired of not feeling well. And I think they're tired of getting poor service

Bill LuMaye: and there's a lots of alternatives, but it's gonna require some work.

One thing you can do [00:53:30] is go to your website because, no, I'm serious. The t there. Delicious, but also awful also has some health benefits. I mean, just think about, this could help me talk, but it, it's, it is delicious.

Podcast Studio 01: For those out there moms, dads, [00:53:45] you can buy a ton of detox tea. You can buy a ton of refresher tea.

You could make it put in a big, pitcher poured out into containers, into your yetis for your kids. And they're drinking a [00:54:00] healthy drink. And again, you wanna throw a little honey in there, little sugar in there, that's fine. But they're not getting any else but something that the earth produced and it's organic.

It's virtually, hopefully all pesticide free and it's great for you. So [00:54:15] it's been great talking to you today,

Bill LuMaye: Q2, Jim. I'm going with this instead of Gatorade today after our talk. But as always, it's a, it's a pleasure to be here and I appreciate being involved in this Great, great stuff today.

Thanks, Jim. Yeah,

Podcast Studio 01: thank you. [00:54:30] [00:54:45] [00:55:00]