Cinematic Anarchy

In this episode Chris and Piper sit down to talk to Hazard Valley films and The Head of the Northwest Flying Saucer Film Festival. Watch The Hazard Valley film submission here: https://youtu.be/2FiHc2nZOkc?si=_XheyXussUcYq4PH

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Speaker 1:

Hey, guys. This is your warning. We do post up spoilers. At times, we're relatively offensive. We use vulgar language.

Speaker 1:

So if you think that any of those are going to offend you in any way, shape, or form, take your step back right now. Because, buddy, this is not the place for you. Anyhoo, have fun listening to us, and, yeah, this has been your final warning.

Speaker 2:

Hello. I'm Chris, and this is another episode of Cinematic Anarchy. And, we are welcoming back some folks we had earlier on this year, discussing some of their, YouTube projects. We have Hazard Valley Films.

Speaker 3:

We got me. I'm back, Benel. But I got someone new with me today.

Speaker 4:

My name is Evan. Nice to meet you guys.

Speaker 2:

Evan and Bunnell? Welcome. Thank you for coming back on.

Speaker 3:

He's our voice talent, Chris. Piper, he's our voice talent, with with this recent film that we did. And so

Speaker 2:

Is he is he the one that did the alien voice?

Speaker 4:

Yep. That that one is me.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it. I love it. And, we do have Piper who I I forgot to introduce almost immediately out of the gate.

Speaker 5:

Here. Hey, y'all. It's been a bit

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Plea please don't disappear again. I apologize.

Speaker 5:

Don't worry. I'm watching Friends and Duffy.

Speaker 2:

Yes. We have to get that started next month. And

Speaker 3:

Hey, Fripper. Nice to see you again.

Speaker 5:

Nice to see you all. There's just a little less of me to see now.

Speaker 2:

And, though I have dropped the ball and I should have had you back on a lot sooner than this for other projects, what we are discussing today is, an impressive little piece that they had submitted to the Northwest Flying Saucer Film Festival. If you'd like to go ahead and just, tell our audience, what you put out there.

Speaker 3:

Wow. You know what? It's a long story to how we got got there. We initially had a, well, you know what? Back in April, I well, that's when I first heard of the festival.

Speaker 3:

And it was really interesting because I was looking for film festivals up here in the Pacific Northwest. And I came across this particular festival. I was like, oh, this is interesting. And I looked into it. They had only done 1 year prior, and I was like, hey.

Speaker 3:

You know what? Why not? And then I looked at the, the festival itself and it man, it it looked like a lot of fun. And so I said, oh, no. Let's put together a, let's put together a film and submit it and see what happens.

Speaker 3:

That was our initial thought with, a couple of my other buddies, and we had planned to, film outside. Film film in the outdoors and and and just do some kind of like outdoor makeshift spaceship, you know, because it was flying saucer, inspired. Right? That's that's what the whole festival is for. And as time went on and and and the, and the submission date was coming and with everybody working, we weren't able to, submit that initial film that we had we had planned.

Speaker 3:

So, luckily, I had, like, a week prior to submission to the final submission. My my cousin came down from, from Texas with their kids to come visit Washington. And at their last day of their visit, he mentioned that my my wonderful niece and wonderful nephew, Mina Noah, wanted to just do a fun film in this shit. Right? Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 3:

You know? 10 years old, 8 years old. And, from there, I said, okay, let's let's do something. And, we started we just started filming for fun and then I realized, you know what? What if I did a a a a contingency plan for the film to submit?

Speaker 3:

Because I had already filmed like the the the the little model ship that was coming through space and then little little b shots or whatnot. And, we just went for it, Chris. Piper, we we just I just had him start filming. And, it was fun. When they say don't film with kids or pets, they were right.

Speaker 3:

They weren't kidding.

Speaker 4:

Oh, geez. There's a couple of good most of them on the blooper reel that that made me really laugh.

Speaker 2:

They did not do too bad at all.

Speaker 3:

No. They they actually did pretty good. They gave me a headache, but it was a fun headache after the fact. So I appreciate, if if they're listening. Me and Noah, thank you for participating in this because I don't know, man.

Speaker 3:

It was it was it was it was definitely a fun, fun experience for them and for me and for myself. And, throughout the filming, I wanted to add a little bit of, you know, how how do I portray an alien? Because, you know, my my my little nephew, he's kinda all over the place, man. He's just he was an active kid. And, I tried to have him do some do some alien voice for me.

Speaker 3:

Was not working out with my little nephew. So that's where I brought this gentleman in.

Speaker 2:

The voice over.

Speaker 3:

He's my voice talent. What can I say?

Speaker 2:

So before I before I go into asking a few questions, I'm gonna I'm gonna give myself a little plug just to embarrass myself. Okay? Before I moved back up here from Georgia almost, 15 years ago, My kids you were talking about, you know, not filming with kids. My kids actually sat down with me and did a little YouTube thing called dead children at play. There's 7 episodes just floating out there in the universe before the kids just could not work with each other anymore.

Speaker 2:

It was those 2 and a couple of their friends, and they if you ever wanna look that up, go ahead. It was thoroughly embarrassing. I can't act worth a damn. So they did drag me in there to do, some overweight adult cannibal, but for the most part, adults are not supposed to be in there. Only the kids survived in this zombie world.

Speaker 2:

So it was fun,

Speaker 3:

but,

Speaker 2:

yeah. Could I could put out a lot of bloopers stuff too. That being said, I watched

Speaker 5:

Not working with animals or kids yet.

Speaker 2:

No. No animals or kids. I don't think we I'm not sure we had But

Speaker 5:

that I haven't yet. Like, the youngest person I've worked with played mother in the very first movie I was on, and he was 17 at the time. I was oh god. I was 28 playing 19. But, yeah, he was the youngest person I worked with.

Speaker 2:

I think they tried to drag their dog into it a couple times, but it never worked out. So we we we just we're not gonna put anything in there with the dog. The dog doesn't know what it's doing. It just wants to bite people. We won't do that.

Speaker 2:

So I watched your your your short your submission a couple times, and I actually enjoyed it the little twist at the end.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it, man. That was kind of off the cuff. Just like, okay. So what what do we do now?

Speaker 3:

What do we do now? And I was asking them and they were just looking at me like and then it just hit me like, you know what? That that that that green outfit that he was wearing was supposed to be obviously. Right? It's it's not an alien.

Speaker 3:

So, well, just pull up pull pull pull that that that mask off and and just I wanted an organic reaction from my my niece, and I think we got it. You know? It was I think

Speaker 4:

we got

Speaker 3:

it. When

Speaker 4:

when he said it was off the cuff, it was really it was really last not like last minute, but it was it was a surprise to all of us too when we were so we sat down and watched it. I don't think he he kept it a really good secret. I think it was only you and the kids that knew. This yep. It it was kinda like a a weird Star Wars episode 5 moment where Darth Vader was all of a sudden Luke's father.

Speaker 3:

That's actually a good, Yeah. That's that's that's that's a good one. That's a good one. That's it. That's true.

Speaker 3:

Didn't think of that. And it just so happened that they, my my my cousin brought that little outfit for him to wear because he wanted to take pictures in the ship where while wearing that. But little did we know we were actually gonna film him wearing that. So I'll be putting up his bloopers. He's got he's got like 3 minutes worth of bloopers just just found his own, my little nephew.

Speaker 3:

He's a he's a wild one.

Speaker 2:

It'd be worth putting those up. Now just the way that you twisted it though, is there a possibility you could be slipping some alien lore into your Hazard Valley horror universe?

Speaker 3:

Dude, that's a great question. Because you know what? Since we did this, why not? Why not? Right?

Speaker 3:

I mean, it is it does take place in Hazard Valley, and it's the residence of Hazard Valley. And you know what? I mean, anything goes, man. Anything goes in in in in Hazard Valley.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna I'm gonna be frank though. In Hazard Valley, don't be a news reporter. That that position is courtesy.

Speaker 2:

It seems to get you killed more often than not.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I

Speaker 4:

mean, it's just like it's

Speaker 5:

just like, you know, Harry Potter, the dark arts teacher is the one who always dies every year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Every time. Every time.

Speaker 2:

I constantly, I

Speaker 4:

wanted to give a little hey, Chris.

Speaker 3:

I wanted to give you a little gist of, of my voice talent over here because truth be told, man, I didn't know he had it in him. And he came up to me one day, overhearing me talking about, some alien voices. And he goes, well, check this out. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2:

There we go.

Speaker 4:

So, I was, playing around just, you know, over the years, actually, just kinda playing around with my voice, at for fun. Just bored. And I figured out I can I can breathe in and and talk at the same time? I don't I don't I can use words. Right?

Speaker 4:

But, you know, using kind of just funny noises makes the alien, like, language seem a little bit more authentic. So sounds a little bit like this.

Speaker 3:

And to translate what he just said is I still haven't got my payment on Venmo for this film yet. That's right.

Speaker 2:

That's actually pretty good. Waiting on that. Come come a little closer to the microphone and do that again because we I could barely hear that. Okay. Did you

Speaker 3:

hear that, Chris?

Speaker 2:

I could hear that a little bit better.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. He's still waiting he's still waiting on that payment from me.

Speaker 5:

That he's still pissed about that nonpayment.

Speaker 4:

There there was a couple of choice curse words in there too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I sent them a I sent them a check. I think it bounced. People still do that.

Speaker 2:

Checks? What's what's check? Right. The only thing I pay for with a check now is, is my rent, actually. I don't understand why he won't let me Venmo it to him.

Speaker 5:

Give that CHEQ a check.

Speaker 6:

Shouldn't be

Speaker 3:

easy. I mean, you do live in Chris, you do live in Massachusetts, so I'm just joking.

Speaker 5:

You think it'd be more backwards where I am in Georgia?

Speaker 2:

No. No. You're gonna go over to the, border into, New Hampshire to get a little bit more backwards.

Speaker 5:

That's the backwoods.

Speaker 2:

Backwards, backwards. Whatever.

Speaker 5:

Backwards, backwards. Chris, you've gone silent again.

Speaker 2:

New Hampshire is the north of the south or the south of the north. I think I had that backwards. I'm backwards.

Speaker 5:

You are back asswards. Yes.

Speaker 2:

So it looks like, Vincent has, let us know that he's ready to step into the podcast and have a conversation with us. Thank you for joining us today, Vince. I appreciate you you coming on and having a talk with us. We've been talking with Hazard Valley Films for a little bit. We wanted to make sure to take a quick pause to bring you on so we can we can talk with you as well.

Speaker 6:

Excellent. Yeah. Hey, Benel.

Speaker 3:

Hey, Vince. What's up, buddy?

Speaker 6:

Just,

Speaker 3:

nice to have you on.

Speaker 6:

Doing doing a thank you. Yeah. I've been doing a lot of much needed relaxing since the, that past weekend.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I can imagine, man. You had quite a lot on your plate that weekend, we saw.

Speaker 6:

Yeah. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. Thanks again for, introducing me to these podcasters and for submitting, spaceship hazards. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

No. These guys are

Speaker 3:

great, man. I love cinematic anarchy.

Speaker 2:

So I was, looking over your, Facebook page, and I I did my best to try to hunt down a lot of the the submissions because that yeah. I'm not imagining that, people made it as easy to find as as our friends at Hazard Valley Films did.

Speaker 6:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Some of them I couldn't find at all. I I was looking around, and, I was just wondering. So before we get into, everything, I was just wondering. I actually read through your your description of the the origins of your your film festival, and I was wondering if you could just, describe that, to our our listeners.

Speaker 6:

Sure. So Chehalis, Washington is a really special town, especially in terms of the history of our our culture's obsession with UFOs UFOs and the study of UFOs themselves. Back in, June 24, 1947, there was this private businessman pilot named Kenneth Arnold, and he, he lived in Boise, but he was in Chehalis that day doing some business. And he, flies

Speaker 3:

out

Speaker 6:

of the Chiales airport heading towards Yakima on the next leg of his business trip, and he sees, near Mount Rainier, 9 weird echelon Chevron shaped aircraft that are flying in the distance. And he clocks their speed, somewhere around, like, 1600 miles an hour, which in 1947, completely unheard of. So that's that's very fast. And, you know, he arrives in Yakima, tells a story, and then just almost instantly, he gets picked up by the the the newswires, and it's all over the place. And he's asked later that day to describe the way these craft flew.

Speaker 6:

And the only way he could, describe their flight pattern was to say that they're, like, skipping saucers over the water. And somehow from that description, the term flying saucer was misconstrued he was, like, misquoted as saying the word flying saucer. But that term just exploded. And pretty much that summer and beyond, the The concept of UFOs and flying saucers were just one of the biggest things in American pop culture. And, you know, I grew up around Chehalis.

Speaker 6:

And my my partner, business partner, Jason Matson of Lewis County Historical Museum, I told him this story that, like, Chehalis was basically the birthplace of the flying saucer, and you could trace a modern ufology back to what happened there or what started there. And we were surprised that no one in the community really knew this story. No one knew that Shaheil has had this amazing place in pop culture history. So we decided to do this festival. Started off as just your typical UFO festival with speakers and live music and everything.

Speaker 6:

And, last year, we actually expanded it to a 2 day thing, and we included the Northwest Flying Saucer Film Fest. And just did the 2nd year, it's going pretty great. And, you know, I just love the idea of having having a film festival like this with the theme that it has being just less than a mile away from where this crazy journey started over 75 years ago that, you know, with with without which, I mean, you could probably trace Star Trek, Star Wars, all the things that we just grow up with and know, you can trace in a in a way, like, the origins of that to our thoughts of UFOs. And it's just kind of amazing how much started from this great little town.

Speaker 2:

So one of the things that I wanted to ask so I I I know this is only your 2nd year in. And, having you explain your your your film festival is sort of me segueing into to, asking. So seeing as I went through the Facebook, I tried to find a lot of these submissions. Do you have any plans in the future of maybe setting up sort of an online portion for your film festival? Sort of a way for people that aren't necessarily local to be able to access, the submissions via maybe a fee or so on and so forth to see things more either, you know, countrywide or worldwide.

Speaker 6:

Right. You know, there hasn't really been anything like that being planned. One thing is, as a film festival, we only have the rights to show all of these films in one place. People submitted for it to be shown at the theater. And a lot of people who have their films still in the film festival circuit, they won't be putting it up online.

Speaker 6:

Some film festivals have rules that if your movie's available on YouTube, then you can't be screened at certain festivals. So I think that's one of the reasons why, some people haven't put theirs up yet.

Speaker 5:

That is true. Because if there's if there's so much of it that's seen, then it's not it's not available to go into different film festivals. Like, you can put it into different film festivals. It can be seen there, but if you have it public use, only a certain percentage of that film can be seen for just still be able to be submitted.

Speaker 6:

Exactly. Yeah. And, you know, we do our rules a little different. I I just like having a cool collection of creative work, you know, whether it's online already or not. But but I get why other festivals, do that.

Speaker 6:

Another thing is I I I'm kind of old school. Like, I I like the idea that the one and only time you're ever gonna see this particular collection of films is when you go and enjoy in this beautiful theater surrounded by hundreds of people who are there for the same reason. And it kinda makes that that experience way more precious. Understandable.

Speaker 2:

That's that's definitely fair. And sounds like I might have to start planning to make a few trips over to the the West Coast.

Speaker 6:

It's a it's a nice area. Where are you from?

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm from up and down the the East Coast over here. Everywhere from, New Hampshire down to Georgia. I kind of I've moved around a little bit.

Speaker 5:

Cool. Georgia. So

Speaker 3:

Well, Chris, if you ever come up to, up here in Washington, man, come look me up.

Speaker 2:

I got a a couple of friends that have moved, from this side of the country out to the around the Seattle area. I'm trying to remember where my my friend April is even out over there. If she's listening to this, she's gonna call me out for not remembering. She's like, I've told you, like, 50 times. This I've got a a short attention span and and and,

Speaker 3:

To be fair, there are dozens of little towns and cities around Seattle. So, I mean, we're 45 minutes from Seattle. We're about, like, traffic. Yeah. 40 minutes from Seattle.

Speaker 3:

So a little town called Everett.

Speaker 5:

I think I've been living in Seattle.

Speaker 3:

It's a

Speaker 6:

weird, cool region. I I I grew up in this area, and it, it's always gonna be home. There there's there's just there's a strange alluring quality to the northwest that I love it.

Speaker 2:

I haven't been to the west coast

Speaker 6:

back of the country.

Speaker 2:

But I will say something about Georgia that, there was was never a dull moment when I lived in Georgia. I cannot say the same for the northeast over here because dull seems to be what they strive for sometimes. There's You

Speaker 5:

think there's never a dull moment down here in Georgia? You have dull moments.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no. No. No. No. No.

Speaker 2:

No. No. No. No. You you remember where I used to live.

Speaker 5:

I lived in Okay. I'm sorry. You never had any dull moments. There's plenty of dull moments for me.

Speaker 2:

All of those areas out and around Athens, well, they they can be dull moments. Yes. But I was constantly stuck in the middle of one bit of chaos or another.

Speaker 6:

Whether Children.

Speaker 5:

I've been blessed to not have any.

Speaker 2:

Not just children.

Speaker 5:

I get to I get to live with my some of my dull moments. Ain't the gods.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. No. Once once you stray, stray into parenthood, there's there's no looking back. You're not

Speaker 5:

It's like the only time I would love Not

Speaker 2:

getting a lot of peace.

Speaker 5:

Moments if I was acting a lot more. I would have no problem, like, telling to somebody, like, if I got paid what I've got paid now for acting roles and I was struggling, but I was always acting, I'd never bitch. I was like, because I could I could pay my bills and doing what I love to do.

Speaker 2:

So, now that people know a little bit about the background of your your festival, would you like to say anything about this year's submissions or or happenings at the festival?

Speaker 6:

Oh, yeah. I mean, just this just being our 2nd year doing it, it was definitely an evolution, a growth from the previous year. There are a lot of films I loved in the 1st year, and there there is even more that I loved this year. Spaceship Hazard, one of the the best practical physical sets that I've seen in in, an independent film

Speaker 3:

in quite a while. It's not It's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's

Speaker 6:

not it's not

Speaker 7:

it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not

Speaker 3:

can see that.

Speaker 6:

That's great. How long did it take for you to put that together?

Speaker 3:

I started putting this together in June. 1st week of June, finally finished. Still not finished. Right?

Speaker 2:

Still putting things in.

Speaker 3:

I think it was like the the the the the I finally finished the 1st week of August. So lots of lots of, lots of scraps, lots of plastic, material, lots of packaging materials. You name it, man. It's in the ship.

Speaker 4:

I have to give a lot of credit to the unique uses that he's found for some of these objects in here. So, I mean, obviously, you got you got egg cartons. Right? But then there's just these these fun, like, printer or toner pieces up here. There's some base to firework mortars up here that that look like speakers.

Speaker 4:

Ink cartridge containers. Yeah. And then there's just those, you know, those fun, like, pressed cardboard inserts that protect electronic items all over the place. That's great.

Speaker 6:

That that that's my favorite thing about filmmaking is having the ingenuity to create something physical like that that when you when you aim the camera just right at it, it becomes its own universe. Like, you're inside of a spaceship when you're when you're looking at that. I I I like seeing those types of films come into us, films where you you can just really tell someone someone spent a lot of hours beforehand putting something together to communicate the effects they were going for. Another big standout this year was this, stop motion claymation film called No Oats. And it was just about this couple, and they're they're baking a cake for their their cow called Oates.

Speaker 6:

And then this alien comes down demanding cake, and they don't have enough cake. So he kidnaps the cow and holds it for ransom until they teach him how to make cake. Yeah. It's the most adorable piece of cinema you've ever seen.

Speaker 3:

Vince, I'm pretty sure, and I'm, like, 90% sure that my middle daughter voted for no oath and not for spatial hazard. I'm almost certain. Like, it was bad. Because she couldn't stop talking about it. She was like, oh, it's this and oh, it's that.

Speaker 3:

I'm like, where where where's your boning lift? Let me see that boning slip. Because they were they

Speaker 4:

were following that, film on Instagram before the intermission started.

Speaker 2:

And, Vince, what was this year's winner?

Speaker 6:

Well, we had winners in multiple categories. Best short film went to, this piece called Dark Forest. And that that one, that one had a really good kinda independent seventies 19 seventies horror style to it that that we all liked. Best animation went to No Oats. Best documentary went to, the shaver mystery, which is a really interesting, supernatural tabloid story that happened right before the Kenneth Arnold flying saucer, incident, and it's closely related to that.

Speaker 6:

It's, story of Richard Shaver. Too long to go into here, but definitely look that up. It's it's just interesting piece of American pop culture. And this documentary did an amazing job tying it, you know, to the relevancy of flying saucers and where they started. We had best music video, went to this film called the flying saucer film, which had some people playing John Lennon and Harry Nielsen in some weird drunken music video.

Speaker 6:

It was really bizarre and and clever. Best first time filmmaker went to Hailey Moreland who did No Oats. We had a best alien, went to this, Seattle filmmaker named Katrina Braid. She did this one called Aftermath. It's a really interesting looking alien at the end.

Speaker 6:

And, what everyone is really excited about every year is the audience choice. So we we give out ballads at the beginning of the film festival, and at the end, the audience writes down their favorite one. And we we have a team count them in the back, and that that audience choice winner wins a custom trophy. This year, the trophy was made by as as it was last year, the trophy was made by this really talented local artist named Max Reinhardt of this company called Skull Clown. And I don't know if you've heard of the the the video distribution company called Something Weird.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Definitely.

Speaker 6:

So the film the the audience choice trophy was made out of 3 16 millimeter film reels from the Something Weird company. Oh. And they were stacked on top, and at the top was this silver alien holding up his hand.

Speaker 2:

One of my favorite, b movie, low budget film, makers does a lot of audio commentary for their films, Frank Henenlacher.

Speaker 6:

Oh, okay. The gentleman

Speaker 2:

that did, like, a basket case, Frank and Hooker, stuff like that. He he ended up, kind of trans he he did a lot of films, like, in the eighties, and I think one in the nineties and one more recently, which is more body horror than anything else. I'm trying to remember the name of that film off the top of my head, but, for a while there from the eighties on to recently, he'd done a lot of, film restoration and then, audio commentary for some of the more obscure films in the, so weird, catalog.

Speaker 6:

It's a great company. But yeah. So the the, the audience choice winner this year went to this film called Regoob. Yeah. Play that words backwards.

Speaker 6:

And, yeah, it was just a really, really funny, audience pleaser about a couple of Bigfoot hunters in the woods who get abducted by aliens who are looking for human boogers to power the kids. And

Speaker 3:

then I think I had to turn away when we were watching that a couple of times. Then it sounds like, okay. Pretty cool. That's pretty gross.

Speaker 6:

It was it was it was cheap for those.

Speaker 3:

That's

Speaker 6:

But, but, yeah, audience audience loved it, and that one, I won vote. Ended up, getting the audience choice award.

Speaker 2:

That is a creative idea for a fuel source at the very least. Just human boogers. I

Speaker 5:

I would not be able to watch it. I can't stand tonight.

Speaker 6:

I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4:

I can. Good good practical booger effects. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2:

You obviously didn't, live in the times of, Nickelodeon slime. Because essentially all that was was mucus.

Speaker 5:

Slime. I had no problem with slime. I can't do boogers. It's why it it's probably one of the reasons I didn't procreate. Because kids come with

Speaker 3:

a lot of them.

Speaker 6:

Kids and boogers go hand in hand.

Speaker 3:

That's the reason. That's a good one. Not to procreate. Piper.

Speaker 5:

One of my reasons. Because I told the man, I was like, we ever had kids, not that I can't have them, but still. If I if we did, I'd be like, you know, if they're bad, they could be mine. If they're good, they could be mine. When they're crying, it's not running, they're yours.

Speaker 2:

Do you have any, plans for the future of your your festival?

Speaker 6:

You know, right now, we are all just in recovery mode. I I have been spending a glorious week doing absolutely nothing of value, not nothing to benefit my life in any way, and it's been wonderful. I think after this, I'm gonna play some video games, but not not even a thought for next year yet. We're we're definitely gonna do it, but although all that planning comes a little later.

Speaker 2:

For right now, just some breathing time.

Speaker 6:

Yeah. Yeah. And basking. Like, it was it was a it was a very well received event. I just remember nothing but smiling faces in the lobby during, you know, intermission, and that was just good to see.

Speaker 6:

And it's

Speaker 3:

Well, all all the beer they serve hope too, Vince.

Speaker 6:

The beer is key to making any film festival. Maybe not memorable, but but worthwhile.

Speaker 3:

That was definitely a plus.

Speaker 5:

I think alcohol is key to making any con or film festival. Any type of big gathering, alcohol is needed.

Speaker 2:

I've watched several films in the past that, beer shaded goggles, definitely helped get through.

Speaker 5:

That would be movie. Beer shaded goggles.

Speaker 2:

Beer shaded goggles. And, Hazard Valley Films, one more question for you. Now that you've built this massive intricate set, do you have any plans on making more, sci fi and, sorry, sci fi shorts in the future?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Actually, you you mentioned earlier about, implementing, maybe an alien into one of our stories. And I already got a voice actor for that. So I'm go there. I'm definitely gonna write something where you know what?

Speaker 3:

Maybe, maybe a alien traveler meets up with one of our little serial killers and let's see what happens. Little kinda alien versus predator type of, situation here.

Speaker 2:

Alien versus versus

Speaker 6:

Jason or something rather.

Speaker 5:

I like it.

Speaker 3:

But yes. Yes. Definitely.

Speaker 2:

I I feel like it would be Alien versus a more aggressive version of Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 3:

Yes. Again, Chris, with your with your with your samples and your ideas, man. You gave us a lot of ideas last time. So I I gotta give you some credit, man. You're a creative dude.

Speaker 3:

You should look into short film, creating, man.

Speaker 2:

I told you. We did for a short period of time. Go look that up. Dead Children at Play. Go look it up and then immediately forget it, please.

Speaker 6:

I'm gonna look that up.

Speaker 3:

Chris, I'm gonna look that up, but I'm scared to see where Google takes me to when you type in dead children at play.

Speaker 2:

No. No. Go over to YouTube. It's just 7 episodes on YouTube. Don't or I'll share the link to you.

Speaker 2:

You can watch it and then please immediately forget it because that was back there somewhere. Okay. And before this, discord decides to completely and utterly sever my ties with this chat, I'm gonna go ahead and pose the question that I sent out to both of you, last night, at almost midnight after I got home from the concert and had to, probably a few too many beers. So so hell is full and the dead are now walking the earth. What are your top 5 eighties and or nineties film characters to take into battle to push back the hordes of the dead?

Speaker 3:

Actually, Evan right here has his list. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

Evan has the list. Okay.

Speaker 4:

I'll go. Alright. So I I I came from a angle of overall team utility. So I I have a a little bit of a lineup, for individual specialties. So first, we start with the survivalist, and, we'll go with Crocodile Dundee on the survivalist front.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 4:

To get a little a little bit more aggressive on the survivalist side for for actual, you know, hunting slash protection, We're gonna go John Rambo. Next. I need a scientist. I need to help recreate society from a from a technology standpoint, so we're going Doc Brown from Back to the Future after that. And then I need some experience.

Speaker 4:

So I have, Ellen Ripley, to help me fight, some hordes of undead. She's got experience with aliens. And I was torn on the last one. I I felt like Indiana Jones may not the the eighties nineties theme because technically he's in the thirties. I would want him for to try to figure out where the curse is at, archaeology wise, to to break it.

Speaker 4:

But if I don't get Indiana Jones, I need a wild card. I need John McClain from Die Hard.

Speaker 3:

Solid list. I that's solid list. What?

Speaker 6:

That's a good list.

Speaker 5:

That is a good list.

Speaker 6:

I'm seeing you will survive.

Speaker 2:

I'm seeing a knife fight at some point. Smith. I'm talking right over you, Piper. I was gonna say that I'm seeing a a knife fight at some point between Dundee and Rambo.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. I think I think that's inevitable. That's a good one.

Speaker 2:

Alright. Do you have a list for us, Vince?

Speaker 6:

Yeah. I also went with team utility more or less. To start with, I I you would need some brawlers. You know, some brawlers used to fighting undead villains. So I I picked Ash from the Evil Dead movies and Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 6:

I think that Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That definitely worked. Yep.

Speaker 6:

Wrecking Crew. So 1 and 2. I think we're gonna need an inventor, a scientist. So I chose Wayne Zalinski from Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Rick Moranis' character. That dude could turn us to be 50 feet high or as small as an ant depending on the situation.

Speaker 6:

I think you're gonna have to think, micro and macro, if you're going to survive the horde of the undead. You're also going to want a good aerial advantage, so I would bring in Falkor from The Never Ending Story. And we know nothing bad is gonna happen to Falkor, so it's just fun. I like it. And, I I like a wild card too.

Speaker 6:

I I like having someone on the team that no one would expect you to have. So I would choose Peely Herman.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that that did not see that coming. Man, after you guys tell your list, I'm screwed. My list is screwed. Oh. Because I have I have Swamp Thing.

Speaker 6:

I see.

Speaker 3:

I I got toxic Avenger. I got 2 mutants, so to speak. Right? I figure, hey, man. If we're gonna fight the undead, we might as well fight them with the undead.

Speaker 3:

I have god. I was torn between t 800 or Robocop. So so one of those 2. And then Xena Warrior Princess? Yes.

Speaker 3:

Definitely. And then the final one is kind of my personal favorite, Shokusogi. Little, ninja warrior back in the eighties from revenge of the ninja, Enter the Ninja, the Master. I figured with all his, his his weapons, he can help me, you know, find out somewhere. But the only problem is we have no scientist.

Speaker 3:

So, we're probably not gonna last more than maybe a month in our apocalypse.

Speaker 6:

Well, you would think that, like, the Terminator would have all this scientific programming in them. So I bet, like, no one ever asked the Terminator in the movies, but I bet if you asked him can he solve this algebraic equation for me, he'd be able to do it, like, instantly.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. As long as you're not Sarah or John Connor, he could be nice. You just never tried to ask him.

Speaker 3:

You know, that's a good point, man. You never know. It's unless you asked.

Speaker 2:

I think that's probably why I would lean with the the Terminator over a Robocop in that particular situation.

Speaker 3:

Right. Where I was torn, man. I gotta say.

Speaker 2:

Alright. Well, thank you, Vince, Benal, and my brain just went off on your name. Evan. Evan. Evan.

Speaker 2:

Evan. Jeez. My brain is

Speaker 3:

It's okay. You pronounce my name, Benal. It's Chris, it's Benal.

Speaker 2:

Benal. But

Speaker 3:

yeah. I'm

Speaker 4:

a good at FaceTime.

Speaker 3:

I don't have, like, you're driving home. Alright, man. I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2:

This is why you don't I I don't do podcasts after a heavy night of drinking generally. You know, like, I I've had I've had a couple of films that have, names in them that we've had to pronounce afterwards, and then I've had, Piper and or miss b just sit back and wait for me to try to pronounce certain names. And they're like, they already have the correct pronunciation ready to go, and they're like, Chris, no.

Speaker 6:

So How

Speaker 5:

about that? That it's fun to do that. It's like it's just fun to watch you trip over your tongue and see your tongue's right around your neck. And then we're like, okay. Now we'll help you out.

Speaker 2:

Hey. You guys do like to wait for me to to do the, proverbial, Chevy Chase face plant before you help me out with certain things.

Speaker 3:

There you go. I

Speaker 5:

just love it.

Speaker 2:

So we'll start with Hazard Valley Films. Just provide our listeners a little bit of information on where they can find your, all your submissions, your short videos, so on and so forth.

Speaker 3:

Of course. YouTube, Hasselbel Films, please check it out. I think it's, enjoyable and we do have, another film festival that we submitted to. And, hopefully, it's more in the horror genre. And, we'll be posting that.

Speaker 3:

If we do get accepted, then, I hope you guys get to to see and I'll share with with all of you. Cinematic anarchy, Vince. So yes, a 18 minute film of all of our shorts, blended together to make one one film. So we're we're hoping that one goes. We do have an Instagram page, also Hazard Valley Films.

Speaker 3:

You'll see our our logo there, the the Hazard Valley I with our name on it. Sometimes it's just the I, but we're easy to distinguish. So check us out. Join the fun. Enjoy the ride.

Speaker 3:

Come with us, you know, live with our our film festival circuit adventure, and, hope you guys, subscribe and and check out our work.

Speaker 2:

And, Vince, where can they find some information about your festival?

Speaker 6:

Well, you can go to flying saucerparty.org, and that, that's where we'll be making announcements and letting y'all know once we start to plan this this upcoming year. We're also on Facebook, Instagram. Look up Chehalis flying saucer party. You'll you'll find us there. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

We we would love the the feedback we've gotten from the film festival thus far. And, yeah, if you're you're out there listening and you've got an idea and you live in the northwest, start thinking about making that film and submitting it for for next year's festival. We're we're on Film Freeway, the northwest flying saucer film fest. And, yeah. I wanna wanna thank Bunnell and, the the host of this show.

Speaker 6:

Thanks for having me on. This has been a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

It's absolutely no problem at all. It's always enjoyable to to meet new people and, give myself a reason to go out there and travel a little bit. And then seeing as I I'm I love films as much as I do, and then, you know, maybe setting a little travel around the idea of visiting certain film festivals when they pop up over the year. That may be where I need to start focusing my travels because I haven't been able to give myself a good excuse lately.

Speaker 6:

You you are you are welcome in the state of Washington. It's

Speaker 2:

So I've heard. Pretty well. So I've heard. And, as we we usually tie up this podcast, with something that, miss b is constantly spouting at the end of every single episode, drink some water, you thirsty bitches.