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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes Lockie Jones and Lleyton Wall, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Speaker 1
She goes in front would help the younger.
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Speaker 2
Of courage.
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Speaker 1
Unbelievable. There's nothing but. Racer.,
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Speaker 2
Man.
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Speaker 1
World championship title.
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Speaker 3
Alrighty, here we are, back in the studio. Well, one of us is back in the studio. We are here with episode 54 of the unfunded podcast. As always, I am Lachlan Jones, your host here with my good friend.
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Speaker 4
Late and all.
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Speaker 1
There was, there was.
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Speaker 3
There was a little bit of a little bit of a hold up on that. I think we might be having some technical issues here, but there was a yeah, well hopefully we can get through this whole episode. Sorry if it's a little bit patchy. Unfortunately, our producer is away so late in the night having to deal with things on our own.
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Speaker 3
It's taken us a good hour to set up. I think we wanted to record 45 minutes ago, but that's okay. We're here.
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Speaker 4
But yeah, that's all that matters. Been been probably a month since we've recorded. So mate, it's been hard, these technical difficulties to do that much.
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Speaker 3
Where we're not the brightest when it comes to this sort of stuff, where we're kind of just guessing as we go and laden for anybody that is or couldn't half tell. Leighton's just woken up as well. So if you say he's a bit tired, just cut him some slack.
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Speaker 4
It's been up for 45 minutes trying to figure it out.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3
True. Actually, he hasn't just rolled lot, rolled out of bed. We've been at this for a while. But anyway, mate, how's how's your life? How's your Euro summer.
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Speaker 4
Oh, it's been good so far. So good. Been over here now for a month. Pretty much. Bang on a month. It's coming to an end. Which is sad, actually. I've only got two more weeks. Two more races though, so that's good.
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Speaker 3
What are you racing?
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Speaker 4
So you got staying font remote actually today.
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Speaker 3
This is your last name font.
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Speaker 4
So I've got. Yeah last name font today I had to. Ireland tomorrow and then off to Tunisia after Ireland. So should be good. But yeah coming to a very very close end. Yeah it's kind of sad.
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Speaker 3
It's actually gone pretty quick even like over here. Like knowing that you boys are going to be coming back in, you know what, a month? About a month like it, it has actually gone pretty quick.
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Speaker 4
I mean, it's I'll be back in like two weeks, but yeah.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Right. You because who are you coming back with? You come back with you on or just yourself?
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Speaker 4
Na young staying over in holiday. I thought it was coming back solo. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
Me. You don't want to do the holiday.
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Speaker 4
Oh the Muppets. Yeah, but I'll tell you what Font Remote is. It's a cracking spot. Absolutely cracking spot. Like it's probably the triathlon Mecca of wherever. I've never trained in a place where so many people. It's pretty ridiculous, not gonna lie.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, I've.
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Speaker 4
Just seen.
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Speaker 3
Stories like everyone's there. You got every squad in Europe basically basing in font this time of year.
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Speaker 4
Yeah. And then there's us for boys just, you know, kicking it.
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Speaker 3
Who's the biggest big dog?
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Speaker 4
You know, it's good like.
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Speaker 4
Mate those it was last mid last week and I saw all of the men's Olympic podium on the one day. No way times. Yes I saw Leo I saw Hayden having a coffee out the front of our little Airbnb. And then Alex at the track that morning.
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Speaker 3
No way they're all up there.
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Speaker 4
No. Yes. There was no joke. Everyone up here. And then there was Cassandra before she went to weigh high. Yeah. It was. It was packed before. Way high.
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Speaker 3
Wow. You've seen for the Six Olympians. Up for the Paris Olympians up there. That's mad.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. It was. Yeah, it's been really cool. Like, Yeah, it's a pretty cool atmosphere. Like, even on, you know, everyone's down at the bloody. You probably see it on Instagram, but like the main bridge that they run across. Oh yeah. Down here the lake and like so they morning we did a brick and that was just it just packed like no joke.
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Speaker 4
It was just every man their dog every squad and their dog. Yeah. So it's actually been really cool.
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Speaker 3
How was it? I'm sure he was probably rapt to see you. Our podcast. Biggest fan, Hayden Wild. Did he?
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Speaker 4
Oh, well, I kind of stay clear. I just kind of watched from afar..
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Speaker 3
Why you didn't go.
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Speaker 4
Big old Porsche.
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Speaker 3
I made unfunded podcast. Yeah. Just want to get a quote. It was.
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Speaker 4
Having a coffee and we we walked past back from the shop to our place, and there's the coffee shop across the road, the car park, and then our, our little Airbnb. And we're like, oh fuck, pretty big. Porsche got a couple nice Kenyans on the back like, oh, whose is that? And we look over the other side of the cafe and it's Hayden, this big old Porsche.
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Speaker 4
And he's couple Kenyans sitting on the back of the bloody cheese.
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Speaker 3
And people people say triathlon doesn't pay well. It it pays well up the top. Pays all up the top.
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Speaker 4
Oh mate they you. Yeah the top handmade there. They've got some nice fancy cars. And then Cassandra's bloody skidded into the car park in a Audi or something like that. Yeah. I thought she'd be rolling around in a G wagon or something. Crazy.
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Speaker 4
Yeah. So no, it's been it's been cool. They've they've got some flash cards, some of the, some of the big dogs. Maybe it's what we what we aspire to. We'll get there next. Yeah. Exactly right. We will be having bloody big dog cars when we come here and serve the the poor show. Oh, mate, nothing wrong with her show.
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Speaker 4
Nothing wrong. Nah, it's been good though. Like, it's definitely, like, it's tough training because it's. You're on the mountain, so it's either 15 K down and you go ride 15 K back up. It doesn't matter where you go. So you're doing a lot climbing, mate. You're getting stronger than I've ever done. Yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully we'll see. We'll see you next this weekend.
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Speaker 4
We'll see. This way. Yeah. Whether altitude even does anything. Yeah. How you to how you feeling leading to your race.
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Speaker 4
Yeah. Good, good. I mean, I had a decent one in Switzerland. Yeah, yeah. It's now pretty much a month ago. So it was, it was positive. So that was good compared to I think like the last couple of years haven't been the best for me. So it was good to actually like be within a race again and actually like although the run wasn't crazy, crazy great, but it was a lot better than what I've been doing.
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Speaker 4
So yeah, I think I was like, we spoke about it, faith restored, I guess. Yeah, you were, you were, you were, you know, you were a competitor in the race. You were actually up the front. You were sort of, you know, not just feeling like you were dragging your toes kind of thing. You were actually there, able to give it a good crack.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, exactly. Which is, I guess, all you really ask. Especially when we race very similar, don't we? Like, you want to be at the pointy end of the swim and the bike and then get off in the best position you can? Although it was a pretty big park, I mean, and a couple up the road, it's like at least you still felt in the race.
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Speaker 4
So try and try and keep that going for this weekend in Derry. So although Euro cups are pretty stacked. Yeah they are. I mean not that Switzerland was bad but like Eurocup. So I guess like these days are crazy.
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 4
It's another level at this point. 70 guys on the start line. Yeah, yeah. Oh the euros definitely put on a show in comparison like racing wise. Yeah. The atmosphere is just it is like a lot better than what you have in Asia or Australia. Like you can't really deny that. But yeah, there should be. Okay. It's pretty late at night, actually.
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Speaker 4
It's about 7:00 at night. We race.
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Speaker 1
I'm pretty sure last time.
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Speaker 4
Last time I raced in Ireland, it was it was a late race. Like we raised. Really? Like you sit around all day just waiting for that reason. It's not.
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Speaker 1
A lot of those euro. A lot of those Euro races.
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Speaker 4
Are really late races. But I don't know, it's kind.
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Speaker 1
Of cool. It's exciting. It's something new.
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Speaker 4
Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Something new. And then off to off to Tunisia. Yeah. Out there though hopefully.
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Speaker 1
You.
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Speaker 4
Make it back I guess. Mate I'm, I mean I'm there for about 48 hours and then I'm out. What do you mean? You're literally going in, what, two days before the race?
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Speaker 4
Yeah. And then flying out race day. That's. That is such a panic move like that is such a panic. I just want to get in there, get it done and get out of it. That's a business trip if I've ever heard one.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, I know. Usually I wanted to, like, you know, have a little poke around, have a little look. I'm pretty sure we said that after after a soccer, we were like, we should we should normalize, like staying around and seeing the site, seeing what the race location has to offer. But not this one. Yeah, not this one, actually.
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Speaker 4
They emailed me the other day and they're like, oh, there's like these tourist activities. I'm like, no, I won't be going, mate. Sorry. Fortunately, unfortunately, yeah. My flights out of there straight away. Yeah. Get me out of there and get me to nice. Yeah, I was about to touch on that. Good news. Unfunded. The unfunded. Have a media team on the ground in at 70.3 worlds.
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Speaker 4
We have a media team. Yeah. Whether we have an official media pass. Oh, no, I'm not too sure yet. Oh, no, we haven't been granted that, like Iron Man beef with World Triathlon. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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Speaker 4
So wait, putting my application, I was like, yeah, we've had these people that people, you know, all these people on. So you know surely. But then it said what Iron Man branded events have you covered and made same. All of them minimal. We've covered them all. But we'll see whether Iron Man in the world triathlon BFR continues. And they don't allow us to get a media pass over there.
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Speaker 4
Anyway, we covered we covered 70.3 worlds last year, to be fair.
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Speaker 4
We did. We did. Surely friend of the show? Sure. Exactly who hasn't? Come on. Still, we haven't got him on yet. No, but I mean, we were we were in we were clubbed with the Pro Tri newsreel, that of yellow finishing. So that's got to mean something. Yeah, exactly. Nick Thomson walking in. We collaborated that real. Now they're going to be there.
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Speaker 4
The pro training is guys I, I saw as they were going to be around and they're going to be on deck. So hopefully we can I don't know we'll figure something out. Maybe we should do a live show. We'll do a live show the day before and they can jump on ours.
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Speaker 4
I'll be, I'll be, mate. I'll be on the plane from Tunisia. Okay. Maybe, maybe do a live show. We do a live show the morning of. You know what we should do? We should do a lot. Well, we'll do a live show watching. We'll do a live spectating show, and then we'll bring you in as the man on the ground.
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Speaker 4
Oh, yeah? Well, I was kidding when I do that because I think it's going to be a silly. It's going to be a silly, silly time for me.
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Speaker 4
It'll be around now. Actually. It'll be around 2 p.m.. Oh, okay. I could do that. Then they start around 630. They do? You're right. Yeah. Okay. I could do that. Yeah. Oh, that'd be good. We'll have to think about it. Brainstorm. Well, brainstorm. Figure that out when we are. Once we get out to this year. Exactly. Either or either or.
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Speaker 4
We've got a media team on the ground. Whether we're going to be reporting legally or whether Leighton's going to be jumping some fences, that's another story. But we will be there regardless. And when I say we packed, yeah, Leighton will be there. I will not be there. Leighton will be there. Should we get on to the. Oh, mate, you know I'm holding it down here.
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Speaker 4
I'm holding it down here, making sure everything's going well. The mix are all. The mix aren't getting dusty. I'm making sure I'm, you know, the. I've just been sitting in here for the last month, basically waiting for a recording. I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for you to call me and say that we're on and.
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Speaker 4
Okay. Yeah. Now we're here. I'm ready. And. Amiga. No, it's been good. Just. I've. Honestly, I've just been training. Just been training heaps, trying to get back into a bit of a a good routine. I'll be honest, I got a little bit carried away with some, silly things in my, in my injury break. So just trying to build some good habits again, trying to get back into training, knuckle into some training.
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Speaker 4
And yeah, it's been good though. We're getting there.
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Speaker 5
That's good. It's good to hear. But you'll be ready. You'll be read up when I'm back.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, exactly. I think we got some racing. We got some racing planned in about three months time, 2 to 3 months time. So hopefully it will be jumping to some World Cup start lines in a couple of months. So we'll see. But I've just I'm, I'm not feeling the worst part of being injured. And I'm sure anybody who has been injured can attest to this is that first, sort of like 2 to 3 months of just trying to get fit again, like it's it's a long time to kind of just be sitting still, not doing any training.
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Speaker 4
So, yeah, just trying to get fit again. And I think I'm nearly there. So I mean, we'll see on race day.
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Speaker 5
That's good, that's good. Good to hear. Yeah, yeah. Couple months.
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Speaker 4
Exactly. Let's get into some short course racing because we have we have missed quite a bit. There has been quite a few World Cups on. We've just we were hoping to record last week, but we unfortunately weren't able to get into the studio in time and sort out a few things. Leighton's time zones are a little bit off.
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Speaker 4
So when we were meant to record.
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Speaker 5
That was my mistake, guys.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, well, went to record last week and yeah, Leighton completely butch the the time and was not. He was awake when I was nowhere near the studio.
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Speaker 5
Yeah that's it I was up.
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Speaker 4
I was getting text messages. I was getting text messages. Hey, hey, I'm recording. I'm like, mate, I'm. I'm nowhere near coming into the studio. I'm like, playing the studio two hours, two hours away. But, it's all good. We're going back in the end.
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Speaker 5
That's it. Are we going into the World Cups in South America? First? A quick recap.
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Speaker 4
There was plenty of them, so let's go.
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Speaker 5
So maybe we just go like the main stories. Yeah yeah yeah. You can find the results on World Triathlon.
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Speaker 4
If you really want to know. Yeah. Well unfortunately we're not going to go through I think there's three World Cups here or two World Cups. And I kind of know I know exactly what Leighton Leighton's just saying. The very first name of the Women's World Cup winner, Rio World Cup winner and gone. I don't know how to pronounce that, so I'm going to just leave that.
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Speaker 5
Yes. Exactly. Right.
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Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Speaker 5
That's right, I don't know. Xander is. Zuzanna.
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Speaker 4
Zuzanna I would say Zana.
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Speaker 5
But.
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Speaker 4
With with Zuzanna on the. When we were watching the live stream, I didn't realize that you'd picked it up as well. But they gave. They put the wrong flag up on her podium.
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Speaker 5
Yeah, I, I wouldn't have picked it up, to be honest, because they do look very similar and they just have a little crest that's a bit different. The Slovenian instead of the Slovakian flag was behind her. Yeah, at the medal ceremony, which it would piss you off if the Kiwi flag was put up.
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Speaker 4
Is that 100? Yeah. That's a great that's a great point. Yeah it would.
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Speaker 5
So that is pretty poor from world. Try to be honest. And I saw it on Instagram. She like put something up and I was like yeah that's fair enough. Like do better world. Try there I mean.
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Speaker 4
It's it's they probably didn't because I know.
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Speaker 5
They say it's been made.
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Speaker 4
Well yeah. Like they, they probably got a collection of flags and then they've just gone. Oh shit. We don't have her one. This is the closest one though. This is this is pretty close for her type that.
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Speaker 5
But it was unlike a digital board.
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Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. Okay. Surely you're not messing that up then.
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Speaker 5
Yeah. But like, I mean, Slovenia and Slovakia. So it's like, oh, I wouldn't really know what the difference is to be honest neither. I'll be honest. My ignorance.
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Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Speaker 4
But I feel like a lot of these I feel like poor mistake, a lot of these sort of South South American World Cups are I don't know, they're so hard to pick. And like, we honestly we don't we've personally never really heard of of Zuzana before. So these World Cups, anything can happen. Like, you know, we were fortunate in Rio that we saw like the men's race be a pretty decent breakaway.
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Speaker 4
A lot of the time we're kind of just seeing run races. So it can be a little bit, I guess.
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Speaker 6
I mean, both of them were a breakaway win.
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Speaker 4
The men and women or the. Yeah, actually, because didn't the boys, the boys came together and then and then they broke away.
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Speaker 6
Not in Paraguay. Paraguay was away from the get go.
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Speaker 4
Yeah. Okay. Right.
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Speaker 6
Didn't watch that one.
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Speaker 4
Did you not.
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Speaker 6
I guess another talking point. So like, we can go over the results, but I mean, that's okay. We'll just go the main talking points. Yeah. Mitch Coachman wearing Jordan Rick's suit.
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Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Speaker 6
Did you see.
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Speaker 4
That one? I did see that. You know why I saw that? Because I saw that. I saw that he was in, That Jordan Rick was in the front pack. And obviously, like, being being an Aussie and being a friend, I was paying attention to where he was coming across the line. And I've seen Jordan wear that suit before.
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Speaker 4
So when I saw the video on Instagram and I saw the gray suit and the reek, I was like, you are kidding me. Jordan's just pulled this out of out of his ass like Jordan's come what, second or third World Cup? And he's pulled out a podium.
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Speaker 6
Like, yeah.
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Speaker 4
Nuts, nuts. And then I did say it was I was like, that's a bit too tall for for Jordan. So quickly realized it was it was cold. And I was like, but yeah, that was pretty funny. What happened there? Do you know what happened?
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Speaker 6
Well, to fit into Jordan suit.
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Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Speaker 6
So Jordan said that he lost his Mitch Coleman, lost his suit or left it in Edmonton or something like that. Right. And, yeah, he didn't have a certain Jordan had his spare. And obviously the big fella's fit into our Jordan suit somehow. So yeah. And then obviously podium didn't as well.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, right. A good exposure for lots of people are going to think Jordan was a World Cup medalist.
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Speaker 6
So that was quite funny. Out of Rio they were probably the two big talking points. Then let's go to Paraguay from an Aussie perspective.
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Speaker 4
Yeah.
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Speaker 6
Massive Toby.
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Speaker 4
Powers huge first World Cup podium. He's he's a couple of good deeds. Yeah especially on the World Cup scene. So yeah he's got 10th in head which was like probably I think his best World Cup. Yeah. And then a breakthrough podium I would say is probably is its best result. So and he's just just been picked for a pretty just been picked for the Australian team for under 23 world champs too.
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Speaker 4
So I think I think that world champs under 23 level like World Cup experience is, is so important. Like it's it's so important to I think that's probably a similar, similar level to what they'll be racing at under 23 worlds. You'd say like the standard of a World Cup is quite similar to a standard, I don't know, under 23 world champs.
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Speaker 4
So yeah, I think that's great. Great exposure for for Toby. And I think it's probably great signs for him leading into Pontevedra.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, exactly. He's been up here as well. Obviously he's training with like the JTF crew. So yeah, he's up at altitude doing the right thing. So I think he'll be a good contender for 23 worlds as well, to be honest. I mean, like off the back of that, you think, well know for sure it'll be good to see.
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Speaker 4
And we've got, we've got a pretty good, Aussie team announced for that under 23 team. So it'd be, it'd be cool to see I think like our biggest key takeaway is just how quickly Dylan McCulloch has been able to return to his form of genuinely being probably the master. Like we said, the master of the breakaway.
00;23;24;28 - 00;23;58;07
Speaker 4
Like if there is a sniff of a breakaway happening in a race, Dylan McCulloch is a part of it and he's initiating it like he. Yeah, just wants it exactly right. Like he's he kind of had that Tongyeong breakout post Olympics in 2024. That was scary. And he raced day was injured for pretty much 18 months and then came back rescue operation racers which are a little bit out of his league.
00;23;58;08 - 00;24;22;12
Speaker 4
Let's be honest. Yeah, absolutely destroyed them in the only way that he knows how to is the breakaway in a breakaway. And then he race Edmonton I think his first World Cup back. He obviously tried for the breakaway and then he's made these last two stick. And yeah it's kind of his race. And if you're not there with him well you're not going to be on the podium.
00;24;22;19 - 00;24;42;22
Speaker 4
He's just so strong on the bike. Like it is incredible how he can just control a bike pack. And just again, it's I don't need you to do the same amount of work as me. I just need you to come with me and do something like give me a ten second break every now and then and I'll be fine, because I'll just sit on the front and I'll ride your legs off.
00;24;42;24 - 00;25;01;17
Speaker 4
I'm pretty sure he's just road these boys legs off in Paraguay and just run away from him like we we know, we know about. These other two are that were on the podium. And he's just just run away from him by burning their legs.
00;25;01;20 - 00;25;24;19
Speaker 7
Yeah, well exactly right. I think that there was about ten initially in the, in the Paraguay race, and then they kind of looked around for a second. Dylan went, and then Toby's obviously a very strong cyclist as well. He was in that break. And then it ended up being a break of five. And they would be out two, three minutes into the rest of them.
00;25;24;20 - 00;25;26;06
Speaker 4
Yeah. And over Olympic distance.
00;25;26;12 - 00;25;27;18
Speaker 7
There's no coming back from that.
00;25;27;19 - 00;25;32;09
Speaker 4
No you can't. No that's a massive obviously.
00;25;32;09 - 00;25;38;25
Speaker 7
But the legs off everyone else for the run and run the way he does, which is still.
00;25;38;25 - 00;25;47;17
Speaker 4
Incredibly well. So he's going to be a big player. Like I think he's racing.
00;25;47;20 - 00;25;56;13
Speaker 4
Yeah he's on the start list there. The elite Pontevedra. He wouldn't be under 23 still winning.
00;25;56;16 - 00;26;30;24
Speaker 4
No he's too old now okay. But yeah so that'll be an interesting change in dynamic I think he's another he's another athlete that's just going to add fuel to that fire of the like the already really strong swimmer cyclists that are in in the elite men's at the moment. Obviously we're seeing like, yeah, Henry Graf's crutches, your Maddie houses like all those guys that are really gunning for such big swim bike breakaways.
00;26;30;24 - 00;27;06;06
Speaker 4
And it's been working. We've been seeing, you know, the likes of an Alex Hayden Wild, those guys trying to return. They haven't been able to do it successfully yet. And that is because of that swim bike pedigree that these boys have. Dylan McCulloch's just going to add to that massively. Like he's going to get there in Pontevedra and just he'll be top five out of the water and he will just he's probably loving the change in direction of short course triathlon where oh awesome boys like we're one breakaways now like that's as Dylan's thing Dylan loves that.
00;27;06;06 - 00;27;12;16
Speaker 4
Yeah that's that's his bread and butter. He's bread and butter right there. Like he he licking his lips of the.
00;27;12;16 - 00;27;30;12
Speaker 8
Last half. Many races his race. So he's raced Tongyeong. And then he raced a couple in Asia which were breakaways himself. And then he raced Edmonton which wasn't. And then the next two his race. So he's, he's had. Five out of six breakaways.
00;27;30;13 - 00;27;56;08
Speaker 4
Yeah. Nuts. He's just he just knows how to do it. Six races. He knows what works for him and he just he gets him like honestly he's such an athlete that that's that for me that is the pinnacle of like that's an athlete I respect. And I love that so much because it's that I want this to be as hard as possible from start to finish, like I want to.
00;27;56;08 - 00;28;11;01
Speaker 4
I want to swim away from everyone. If you can ride with me, come ride with me, and then I'm just going to hang on for this run after I've just burnt everybody's legs and he's probably burnt his own, but he's just going to hang on on the run like it's so impressive for me. It's so impressive because it's a it's a complete athlete.
00;28;11;01 - 00;28;15;14
Speaker 4
There like that is a complete triathlete.
00;28;15;16 - 00;28;21;03
Speaker 8
Yeah. It's not just you're running you know 1350 off the bike.
00;28;21;04 - 00;28;21;15
Speaker 4
Yeah.
00;28;21;16 - 00;28;28;05
Speaker 8
Type of athlete. It's you can do it all. You don't have to wait for the race to catch up.
00;28;28;06 - 00;28;28;29
Speaker 4
Know exactly.
00;28;29;00 - 00;28;32;27
Speaker 8
You you don't have to wait to catch up to the race. You're the race.
00;28;32;28 - 00;28;47;20
Speaker 4
You're not you're not a passenger sort of sitting in hoping. I hope the guys up the end don't soon bike really well. And I hope somebody gets me to that front pack. You know, it's it's on him if, if, if he wants the race to go on a certain way, it's on him. And I respect that so much.
00;28;47;20 - 00;28;52;14
Speaker 4
I think it's so cool. It's so cool and so exciting.
00;28;52;16 - 00;28;54;19
Speaker 4
Yeah.
00;28;54;21 - 00;28;57;09
Speaker 8
So it would be interesting in Pontevedra.
00;28;57;10 - 00;29;13;12
Speaker 4
Yeah. And I yeah. I mean, Pontevedra is going to be such a such an epic weekend. I can't wait for that. Should we move on to the big one, the World Series in way high?
00;29;13;14 - 00;29;16;01
Speaker 4
Did you get around to watching that.
00;29;16;02 - 00;29;19;20
Speaker 8
Get into it?
00;29;19;22 - 00;29;20;16
Speaker 4
No I didn't.
00;29;20;23 - 00;29;33;05
Speaker 8
The times is absolutely the worst. The one WTS that actually kind of works well for Australia. It works. Yeah. Here mean Europe doesn't work at all.
00;29;33;06 - 00;29;33;17
Speaker 4
What was.
00;29;33;17 - 00;29;36;09
Speaker 8
It like 2 a.m.?
00;29;36;11 - 00;29;37;25
Speaker 4
Yeah. Now we were good here.
00;29;37;25 - 00;29;41;15
Speaker 8
I can't I can't remember what, what time been.
00;29;41;18 - 00;30;03;22
Speaker 4
Yeah I think we were hours and hours was definitely good. I think we were about 10 p.m., 11 p.m.. Oh sorry. PM am. So we were out in the in the middle of the day. Yeah. Hours in the middle of the day. So it was great. But the honestly, it was really as an Aussie like super disappointing I think, because we had actually.
00;30;03;22 - 00;30;25;12
Speaker 4
No, I take that back. It was like what both ends of the spectrum was super disappointing from like I guess our top guys like, Maddie Hauser and Luke Wilson, who, you know, Luke Wilson sitting in fourth right now trying to edge his way into a potential series podium. And you got Maddie Hauser obviously trying to fight for the the World Series win.
00;30;25;14 - 00;30;55;07
Speaker 4
Obviously those who didn't have their day. But then it was unreal to see you had two guys that just had career best results in kamikaze Brendan Copeland, a sixth and an 11th like both of them, having a career best days, like racing out of their skin. So I was very it was very bittersweet. It was like gutted for these two because their overall series titles kind of probably put on the line now, but then these two have just having career best days and two guys that have been teetering on the edge of a big result for a long time.
00;30;55;07 - 00;31;05;20
Speaker 4
So shout out to Cal and Brando. They definitely served it like and we picked it with Cal, like he just needed to be in that front pack and he would have done something crazy.
00;31;05;22 - 00;31;13;29
Speaker 8
Yeah, exactly right. I actually on the Running dog, it was a little bit arrogant, but I thought, oh, this has got to be an all Australian podium for the man.
00;31;14;01 - 00;31;26;23
Speaker 4
You did pick. And also I thought that was I saw that and I thought, you know, I thought it was arrogant but I, it's not the crazy. I still don't think it's the craziest picture you've done. I honestly like it.
00;31;26;23 - 00;31;31;17
Speaker 8
Could have been.
00;31;31;19 - 00;32;03;24
Speaker 8
Yeah, it could have been. But that I guess. Yeah, it was a little bit disappointing seeing from Australian perspective. Matt Hauser and Luke Wilson not perform to their best and potentially you know that title race. You know it's it's going to be hard to win now. I mean although I don't doubt the likes of Matt Hauser coming back and winning it because that's what he can do, especially when he's down a little bit.
00;32;03;25 - 00;32;24;22
Speaker 8
And as he said last year, like he had that Calvary race, a bit of a kick up the ass. Yeah. To keep going. But yeah, it's good to see that. Like, both Carl and Brando had very promising results, especially like leading into LA where Australia want to qualify three quota spots.
00;32;24;23 - 00;32;25;10
Speaker 4
Yeah.
00;32;25;12 - 00;32;40;05
Speaker 8
And if you keep having results like a sixth and an 11th as maybe like you're three and four athletes or like what you would like to say off the past couple of years. Yeah. It's good sign.
00;32;40;07 - 00;32;57;09
Speaker 4
I don't doubt for a second I mean like, obviously I don't want to speak to early, but man, the Aussie men right now are in such such good ways. You got those three there Carl Houser, Brando in the ad in Luke Willie. And when he's on his day, you know, he probably would have been fighting for a top ten there as well.
00;32;57;10 - 00;33;21;24
Speaker 4
Like those four. Plus you got the guys coming up. We obviously saw Braden Mercer Luke Schofield. Like we've got some guys coming up obviously. Like there's a number of other younger athletes to knocking on the door of racing a World Series. So like the Aussie men are doing really well.
00;33;21;26 - 00;33;25;16
Speaker 8
Yeah. Good to see. Yeah. It's very good to say.
00;33;25;17 - 00;33;50;03
Speaker 4
Because I mean obviously for a little while like one we, we we weren't the, we weren't like the I mean we were good. Don't you were wrong. But you know, there was that little period where you had your all since like, I almost want to say Aaron Royal Jake Birtwistle kind of time in that like 2016. We've just been lacking a little bit.
00;33;50;06 - 00;33;56;06
Speaker 4
So we're definitely not anymore. We're definitely at the forefront of those races.
00;33;56;08 - 00;34;09;10
Speaker 8
Yeah, it's pretty cool to see again that it's. Yeah. Coming back, the podium in way high will gain to them.
00;34;09;12 - 00;34;11;08
Speaker 4
Was that made doing that or do you want to do that.
00;34;11;10 - 00;34;23;02
Speaker 8
So it was oh well I can do it. So the podium it was Max Studer. Yeah. Let me actually get up because I don't want.
00;34;23;07 - 00;34;26;03
Speaker 4
I've got it up here. We've got yeah.
00;34;26;04 - 00;34;30;20
Speaker 8
David Quintero and then Tielemans. Latour. That's on the podium.
00;34;30;22 - 00;34;39;09
Speaker 4
Yeah. So good to see Tyler back on the podium. That's awesome. Like just such a guy that just won't go away.
00;34;39;11 - 00;34;54;12
Speaker 8
Yeah, and he said I thought there was a little bit older than that. But he's not that old. He's just got no hair anymore. But the boys here were training with Tyler in Flagstaff or. Oh.
00;34;54;14 - 00;34;59;14
Speaker 4
Yeah, before the Edmonton, Edmonton World Cups.
00;34;59;17 - 00;35;28;13
Speaker 8
Yeah. So they were living with him or like training with him beforehand. And they said he's really like targeting these back end of the race, the calendar. So I mean a podium there shows very common. I mean he he had a good couple results like you know test event champion in 2019 and then, you know, maybe like a little form slump.
00;35;28;13 - 00;35;35;15
Speaker 8
But it looks like he's kind of back on, on form that he was like a couple of years ago, which is really good to see.
00;35;35;21 - 00;35;59;14
Speaker 4
He's I think he's such an underrated athlete like the, the, the resumé of Thailand and the experience that that guy has. It's it's honestly you can never doubt him out in, in any race at any level. Like if he's like he's always there, he always seems to make the front park. He can roll around with any front pack, and he's got the run pedigree that he just went off the front with.
00;35;59;14 - 00;36;14;04
Speaker 4
David Cantero, and Max stood up like two of the best runners in the sport. Like a guy that can make a most front packs is and can run like that. That's so dangerous. It's so dangerous.
00;36;14;06 - 00;36;16;17
Speaker 4
But it'd be really good to say can.
00;36;16;19 - 00;36;23;04
Speaker 8
Onto the women's. It was.
00;36;23;06 - 00;36;24;10
Speaker 8
What was that? Sorry.
00;36;24;12 - 00;36;39;10
Speaker 4
I was sorry. I just said it was good to see. And it'll be good to see him contesting Pontevedra as well, because I don't think he's he's one that's also not doing Karlovy Vary. He's going to go straight to Pontevedra.
00;36;39;13 - 00;36;42;15
Speaker 8
Yeah.
00;36;42;17 - 00;37;04;08
Speaker 8
In the women's it was also like I would say, the quality of field in the women's was probably better. Yeah. Like have the top three in the world there. And I mean it's, it's hard to beat. She's just so hard to beat. I feel as if that's kind of the narrative of this year. We're just going to have to wait for Pontevedra for anything to happen.
00;37;04;13 - 00;37;20;17
Speaker 8
Yeah. And Sandra Grant, with the win, quite convincingly. Like, she just never looks. It's not as if it's like convincing by a minute. There's not as if she ever looks as if she's going to come second. Yeah.
00;37;20;20 - 00;37;21;03
Speaker 4
She's kind.
00;37;21;03 - 00;37;21;26
Speaker 8
Of got.
00;37;21;28 - 00;37;22;12
Speaker 4
She's got the.
00;37;22;12 - 00;37;26;29
Speaker 8
Execution now, so.
00;37;27;01 - 00;37;42;19
Speaker 8
Yeah. Yeah. She just knows how to win on the best stage. And it kind of looks. Yeah. She's just does it too easy. 4000 points. There you are. Yeah. Leads the series.
00;37;42;21 - 00;38;10;03
Speaker 4
Yeah. Nuts actually because she does. Now looking at, I tried to do a little bit of a, sort of what needs to happen leading into the final. And she, she just needs to be, I think, so Beth Potter still has, you know, a pretty decent score herself. But Sandra Grant's on the podium in Pontevedra, which, again, like, it's looking so likely she's got a perfect score.
00;38;10;03 - 00;38;30;28
Speaker 4
She's been unbeaten all year. If she just lands a podium spot, doesn't matter whether it's first, second or third, she wins the title. So it's not until she's off the podium and, you know, potentially a Beth Potter, comes in with a first. That's the only way that you're beaten Cassandra to the world title. I mean, again, never say never.
00;38;30;28 - 00;38;51;28
Speaker 4
Because, like we saw last year in the women's, she had hit the fan. And Lisa Turk came from, I think, fourth or fifth to win the title. So, never say never. But with her current form, it's looking very unlikely that she's not going to walk away with the title.
00;38;52;01 - 00;39;17;03
Speaker 8
Yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah, it's kind of the same situation as last year for the women's, like women's race for the title. I guess you just got to wait for, you know, a month's time really in Pontevedra and see what happens. So it's not as if I don't know whether Cassandra will go race color vari now, like, she doesn't need to.
00;39;17;06 - 00;39;17;15
Speaker 8
00;39;17;21 - 00;39;18;03
Speaker 4
She on the.
00;39;18;03 - 00;39;55;20
Speaker 8
Psalmist points. Just kind of she's on the start list. So even, like, even if one of the other girls wins, it doesn't really change what's going to have to happen in Pontevedra for Cassandra essentially to lose the title. Yeah. So, but the men's title, that's probably the biggest shake up. Yeah. I know Vasco. I've heard from just being up here and it's, you know, everyone's talking, everyone's here and everyone's talking.
00;39;55;22 - 00;39;59;25
Speaker 8
I don't believe Vasco is going to be racing in Kalabari now.
00;39;59;28 - 00;40;01;21
Speaker 4
So I don't.
00;40;01;22 - 00;40;05;22
Speaker 8
You know, bliss in pretty number one.
00;40;05;25 - 00;40;08;19
Speaker 4
Is that so? Was that was that after then?
00;40;08;25 - 00;40;10;15
Speaker 8
Just for a chance?
00;40;10;16 - 00;40;17;11
Speaker 4
Was that after. How's it like after he saw that race. After he saw way. Hi.
00;40;17;13 - 00;40;18;23
Speaker 8
I believe so, yes.
00;40;18;25 - 00;40;46;16
Speaker 4
Well, how's the tactics there? That's awesome I love that just seeing that, you know, he obviously would have like had, he probably would have had the same like, I think a lot of us were expecting Maddie Houser to go out and quite easily win that. So, that'll be quite cool to sort of see. I guess the tactics that do go in, I think Miguel looking at it, Miguel is definitely going to have to raise Kali, Karlovy Vary.
00;40;46;19 - 00;41;29;12
Speaker 4
He's sort of sitting around 400 points behind Hauser, but again, like a solid result. If he was to go win win their that would bump him up a bit closer. And you know he's starting to threaten Hauser again for a podium even in even higher podium spot. I think at this point. Yeah. Looking at the overall championship picture with where Vasco sets points wise, Maddie Hauser six points wise for Houser to win the title, he's going to have to win Pontevedra and he's going to have to hope and pray that Vasco is either sixth or lower.
00;41;29;18 - 00;41;59;15
Speaker 4
So vast goes inside the top five at Pontevedra with the current standings. Vasco is the world champion, which realistically like looking at the standards that Vasco has been, you know, heading this year, he hasn't been off the podium. I don't think so. How? Like it's nuts. It's not. I'm quite surprised, honestly, that after that, Maddie Hauser hasn't made a statement.
00;41;59;15 - 00;42;10;21
Speaker 4
I don't know if he can get on to the start list, but I'm quite surprised at how the hasn't jumped on a plane and gone. We need to get to. We need to get to California.
00;42;10;24 - 00;42;14;24
Speaker 9
Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's,
00;42;14;26 - 00;42;20;23
Speaker 8
I think you got to roll the dice, to be honest, and just go.
00;42;20;25 - 00;42;21;17
Speaker 4
I think he has.
00;42;21;17 - 00;42;43;00
Speaker 8
To try and get on like, there's there's probably no I know it's probably not a favorable course or, you know, different things like that. There's 55 on the start list and he's. Yeah. He's not going to make the wait list. Put it that way. There's 14 men on the wait list already.
00;42;43;00 - 00;43;05;00
Speaker 4
So yeah, it was it was a big risk. And I honestly thought of it. I, you know, I didn't want to like, I wouldn't have said it in the podcast because I don't like jinxing things, but it's a lot of risk to go, all right. I'm going to guarantee you're essentially having to guarantee that nothing happens in the race.
00;43;05;00 - 00;43;28;15
Speaker 4
Which something did. He crashed out of T1. So like he crashed out of T1 clearly wasn't able to you know, it's China as well. There's a lot of risk factors with health food, eating, making sure it's, you know, making sure that what we've seen in the past, you know, some some dodgy food giving you a dodgy gut the next day, it's a lot of risk to go there and just go.
00;43;28;16 - 00;43;41;23
Speaker 4
I'll just go get, you know, a good result here. Head off to Pontevedra and we'll fight for the title there. Because realistically, at the moment they're not fighting for the title. Like, I don't see it being that close now.
00;43;41;25 - 00;43;52;17
Speaker 8
It's I guess it's. Yeah, it's not a fight for the toilets. Kind of like they've got to kind of give up the title right then actually winning it yourself.
00;43;52;18 - 00;44;06;12
Speaker 4
Yeah. Like you can go race the best race on the day in Pontevedra. You're still crossing that line, winning Pontevedra, looking back and just hoping that you're counting five heads before Vasco comes around the corner.
00;44;06;15 - 00;44;23;08
Speaker 8
Yeah, exactly. It's interesting though, because there's not even any Aussies on the start list of Kalabari, so it's not as if he could even be, you know, pulled off, subbed in like I think tactically even enter into Kalabari.
00;44;23;09 - 00;44;24;01
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah.
00;44;24;02 - 00;44;25;22
Speaker 8
Well Sandra pull.
00;44;25;22 - 00;44;49;13
Speaker 4
Off Cassandra clearly did that. Like that's clearly what she's done here. She's got her 4000 max points and she's going to have to go, oh cool. I don't have to race it now like I do think. I do think it's a tactical error here from Triathlon Australia or Maddie Houses camp. Like if winning the world title is means that much to a world title means so much to everybody.
00;44;49;14 - 00;45;10;06
Speaker 4
I mean, I don't know, I just, I just think tactically you make sure just in case, you know, just in case we don't hit that score that we need in way high, we can quickly duck over to Karlovy Vary and get them there. Yeah, I don't know. They've put themselves in a tough spot. They put themselves in a very tough spot because we're even starting to look down now.
00;45;10;11 - 00;45;36;16
Speaker 4
Henry Graf 2407 points. If he goes in, he's he's the, he's coming back as a champion from last year. He won that race last year. If he goes and wins that again, he's only got 3.3 races to his name right now. So whatever he gets position wise those points all go to his overall point score. So say hypothetically he goes and wins it again.
00;45;36;17 - 00;45;56;14
Speaker 4
He's going to be knocking on the door of houses. Score. He's going to be sitting just behind Hauser in 3400. Yeah 3400 points which is only 90 points away from Hauser. So I. It's it's a big result that's left the doors wide open here.
00;45;56;17 - 00;46;09;08
Speaker 8
Yeah I agree. So I mean it's interesting it's very much played into the cards of Vasco. So yeah I know don't know.
00;46;09;10 - 00;46;10;26
Speaker 4
I'm excited. Either way it's going.
00;46;10;26 - 00;46;13;12
Speaker 8
To be you can always go what would you do.
00;46;13;12 - 00;46;18;22
Speaker 4
But yeah they've got a plan. They've they've obviously got a plan and they're obviously sticking.
00;46;18;22 - 00;46;19;01
Speaker 8
With it.
00;46;19;04 - 00;46;37;08
Speaker 4
So yeah it was always hindsight. There's always hindsight of what you should have done. But either way it's going to be it's going to be an unreal final and it's shaping up to be for the women, quite similar to last year and for the men quite similar, but for different people.
00;46;37;10 - 00;46;47;05
Speaker 8
Yeah. Exactly right. Yeah. So I guess the race to the title, one more race and then that, that grand final year.
00;46;47;08 - 00;47;02;02
Speaker 4
Exactly. We'll be able to see one. Told him a lot on mate. Should be a hot man. We have to do another. We have to do another video before Pontevedra yelling at the mix again.
00;47;02;05 - 00;47;03;25
Speaker 8
Yeah.
00;47;03;27 - 00;47;05;15
Speaker 4
Your turn this year.
00;47;05;18 - 00;47;09;23
Speaker 8
We will.
00;47;09;26 - 00;47;20;10
Speaker 4
Alrighty. I reckon we'll we'll leave it there. Let's. I know you've got to get to your big track, Rondonia. You've got to go scope out the competition.
00;47;20;12 - 00;47;27;11
Speaker 8
Yeah, get back on. Going to show them how it's done it. It's just absolutely blowing.
00;47;27;14 - 00;47;37;07
Speaker 4
Yeah. You go, you go show. You go show Alex. You go show Alex. Yeah. And and Hayden wild how to how to run properly on the track.
00;47;37;09 - 00;47;43;24
Speaker 8
Yeah well well he dropped down Big Alex last week. Yeah. He saw me on track and got scared, so.
00;47;43;25 - 00;47;44;19
Speaker 4
Fair enough.
00;47;44;21 - 00;47;50;01
Speaker 8
Oh, I need a freshen up. You had to go back to sea level.
00;47;50;03 - 00;48;13;22
Speaker 4
Back to, say, level with the others? No. Nice. Oh, well, we'll we'll leave you all there. Once again, thank you very much for listening to the On Funded podcast. We'll come back next week with another episode previewing Karlovy Vary. One more race until the Pontevedra world title. All right, guys, thank you very much for listening. We'll see you next time.