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Ever wonder how successful real estate investors really build their wealth? This candid roundtable discussion pulls back the curtain on the strategies, mistakes, and hard-won lessons from a group of Arkansas real estate investors and construction ...
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What's up, guys? This is Obi from Eleva. We are here with part of the crew of the real estate roundtable 2026. We're excited because the team is back to offer some of the best resources and information for the community. The next meeting is on February 12th at 6. 6pm at the Russellville Country Club. Today we. And we're actually waiting for Esmeralda. She's going to be the first speaker at the 2026 Real Estate Roundtable at the Country Club. We're waiting for her, but while she gets here, I got a few of the guys. I got Juan with HJR Construction, Bob the Builder. Randy with Wooten Customs, and Jonathan Fontes. With Diamond Wrist Construction. Awesome. So these guys, I feel great to be surrounded by you guys. All like, contractors, entrepreneurs. I learned a lot from you guys. I love your car, bro. Driving up and down the street, man. Like, man, that's dope, man. That cyber truck. I heard they're going to stop producing some of the Teslas, but I don't know. Oh yeah, they are right. Like, he was going to focus on. On robots now, but I don't know if that's AI or just. No, I think it's real. I've. I've been one in one. Yeah. You want robot? Yeah, talk to us about it. You're going to. So I want a robot so I can put it on the restaurant. Okay. So it could be like the host. So if you see like a team of robots building a house, then Juan doesn't have workers, he has robot. I wonder if, I wonder if you have to pay workers. Comp on them. You know. You never know they're going. To want electronic insurance. Yeah. But, hey, so the Round Table, why don't we talk a little bit about the History of it, you know. You know, I know it was going on for about two years. So who start. How did it come about? I. I went, you know, a few times, but I wasn't really part of it. But anybody have some information on how it started or what, you know, what was the purpose? Etc? You were part of it first, I think. Were you part of it with them? I got invited by Jason McGee. Yeah. Yeah. And I believe it was Billy with next insurance. Yeah. That he started it. Yeah. And then so. And I took Caesar de los Cabos. He went with me for the first time. Then he. I guess he got busy and I came back. Then I went with Brandon and then Brandon. Yeah, I got into it more. Then I kind of quit for a bit and then I started again. And it's then. Then in. Billy left and basically gave it. Gave the stuff to Brandon, right? Yeah, yeah. Billy was doing it for at least a couple years. Whenever I came on, maybe a year, I don't know, we. We did a couple at the old bank. It wasn't the old bang. When. Yeah. And then I think I went to their first. I went to their first meeting. Yeah. And their second, third, and then probably like a year later started again. Yeah, yeah. Brandon embodied me too. And yes, Old bank was cool. It got a little rowdy in there with the weak crew, you know, having stuff. So we moved out to the country club because a little quieter, more secluded. It. It was there for at least a year. Mean, I haven't missed one, I don't think, since it started. Well, Billy, the last. I think the last episode he done right there at the country club. He said he. He was doing it for two years and his wife showed up for the first time, you know. No way. Yeah, two years. And. And I was like, wow, he's been doing it for two years, you know, so that shout out to him, he's good, good, good. Get something going in like this. But yeah, Brandon invited me and then Tommy told me. I guess Brandon invited Tommy and Tommy told me about it and. And I was like, you know, in this industry, some of us right here, we're working and we want to invest and everything and we don't know everything, so why not learn from people and experts and know about it? So I went to it. I was actually a little bit. I was a little bit intimidated. I was like. But I went to it because at that time I was starting a little bit of journey of like going out to these places and to learn more. So I went to it. I liked It. It was pretty good. Good info. And every time, pretty much that I've been to one of these meetings, I've always learned something. Yes. So these meetings, like, who are they open to? Who can show up? Anyone. I mean, you can come as a guest the first time, and I think that there's a fee for you to go after that to join them is what we ended up doing. I'm not sure how we talked about it. Yeah. In our little group meeting last, but they would embody different speakers. You know, cpa, a banker, an attorney, title person. You know, Carol Collins was really good speaker. She's always got good knowledge. Jason McGee from Union Banks always got good information. Esmeralda, her information is always good too. So it's. It's neat to be part of something that is growing, you know, I mean, we're adding more people and it's expanding. So I think this year is gonna be awesome for us all. Yeah, I'm excited for this year, 2026, you know, just collaboration and learning from each other, you know, this past year, more, you know, I. I didn't show up to several of the events, but this year I want to just be present and just learn something, meet new people, see how we can help each other, you know, so I'm Just hold. Each other accountable too, you know? Yeah. So if you don't show up on. We're gonna send a text that says, hey, bro. Yeah. No, no, these meetings are important. I remember I was going through a whole thing of eviction in there, and I was having problems getting these people out. And I think it was Collins, Ms. Collins said something about some procedures, how to do it and everything, and I'd done that. So it's really nice to know what to do because it's. Sometimes it's really hard to get people. The. The laws are sometimes not for the landlords, you know, and, you know, those. Know, some of that. So the knowing these tricks or these things to do is pretty good. I remember after that, then Benny Dan said something about, you know, sometimes it's about to just pay them out. Yeah, pay them out, you know, offer them a little bit of money to move out and all that. Because I. I lost a couple months. I don't want to say how many. I lost a couple months. Yeah, you were talking about it. I could. I could have easily said, you know what? I'll give you a thousand dollars, you know, to move out and all that. They probably would have take it, and I would have. I would. I would have saved a lot of money doing that. It seemed like Lot 3 meetings in a row. You were like, what do I do about evictions? And we're like, oh, you still talking about that? So we know for sure that it was tough. That's. That's the thing about property management. You know, we. We have conversation this. This week or this month's gonna be CPA and then possibly property management coming in the next month. Property management saves you a lot of times, especially good property management company. No bs. Get your people out, you know, damage your property or don't follow the. The rules. I know a lot of people like to say that little percentage that they make, but it's worth it. Long run, you know, if you. Especially if you got someone that won't get out for four months. So. Yeah. Yep. I actually. I actually want to. I want to do something like that. So now that we're talking about it, you know, what do you. What do you think about. Does it worth it? You know, because some people tell me, is it worth it when you only got, like, two properties, or do you need to have maybe five where it's. Make it worth it? Because I only have three. Okay. And I got. Once I got them, the first thing I did, I went to property management. Okay. It's only three of them. And then the rest are Airbnb. Those. I manage them myself. Yeah. Well, they're really easy on Airbnb. Yeah. Property management. Yeah. It's only 8%, I believe. Yeah. Yeah, I. I didn't mind that, you know, and I was going to, but I read it. I'm out already and all that, and. But, oh, you can still sign a contract with a property management company. They'll take it over. Okay. It's just peace of mind. And I'm not pushing property management, but I've been involved with property management for four years, and. And it's beneficial. The reason I like kind of that, you know, is like, some of us are a little bit too nice, you know? Oh, yeah. And when you do those kind of things, you got to get mean every once in a while and. And we just got to keep it separated, business and personal, because we all have that weak spot and tender. Tender heart, you know, but when it comes to damaging your property and not paying your rent, it's difficult. Yeah. To be NASCAR all the time, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, that's some good insights. We already given some information. Y' all wait till next month for property management stuff. It'll be good. Good conversations. So February, guys, if you're watching right now. Real Estate Roundtable is going to have Esmeralda Rubio, owner of Rubio Tax accounting firm and CPA stuff. And then next month would be property management, which is, I would say go to that one because there it's like, like Jonathan said, some of us, you want to rent it and you think you can kind of manage it, but when it comes to rent time, you got to give them chances. And then it's kind of like my family, like 12 months of rent. Given chances, turn, it's a big, big check. I mean, some people are depending on that rent to survive monthly. And when that person doesn't pay rent, it, it cost you more in the long run. And then you're, you're starving, trying to survive that. You know, most of us have full time jobs as investors and business owners and Stu. But some older generation, you know, that's what they're thriving on is their rental income. So that should be a good conversation. Yeah, it should be good. I'm just gonna throw out there, we're, this is entertainment purposes. Don't take our word for it. Go to a professional, you know, just want to throw it out there. Yeah, yeah. Don't hold us. Yeah. Don't have this liable for these conversations. You do your own research. Get a professional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was, I was talking to Juan about this, you know, you know, there's all kinds of things to invest in. And we had that conversation with that gentleman you, you, you took me with to me. That his name already? Yeah, Gernaldo. I don't know, I forgot. What, I won't say it because I, I told him, you want to come to the park. He's like, no, no, no. But we're thinking about, we're thinking about gold. Talking about gold, silver and stocks and all that. And he's like, everything's kind of sketchy, but real estate. And everything points out to real estate. You know, if you look at, you know, some big investors, real estate, you know, look at McDonald's. That's a real estate. Real estate property, you know. Yeah. That's all. So property always goes well, it can crash and they can go down, but if you hold on to it, I mean, it's going to come back, back up again. So he was telling me, you know, hey, I guess you're addicted to real estate, huh? And I think we are. That's what we're all hearing this, you. Know, and after that first one, you're so deep. Addicted to it. I could do this Again, you know, that's good. Well, I like the vibe, you know, you know, a group of people just coming together and just kind of putting events for, for the community. Anyone? I mean, it's not like you can't go or it's like a whole secretive. And it's only us. Like, like you said, anybody can go. You know, if you want to learn, meet some new people. I'm definitely going to encourage entrepreneurs around me to come to all these events. You know, what's happening at the co create at the Round Table, any other event. Esmeralda's throwing one this Saturday. So it's, it's beneficial to going out there not just to learn, but you network, you meet new people. You know what? I didn't know you did that. Well, I do this and then now you guys can collab, you know. So, yeah, I'm definitely excited. I'm excited for the growth. I've already told, I mean, 10 people about it. Probably. The property management conversation came up yesterday with another person. I went to Clarksville, look, some houses and they were guided a little bit wrong when they purchased a home and they didn't have a whole lot of construction experience, so they were trying to do all the projects by themselves, you know, and I'm like, you can. But, you know, you should have the house looked at thoroughly before purchasing it because it cost them a lot of money to purchase the house that wasn't in good shape to begin with. And people just sometimes take advantage. So I think group meetings like this, all we're trying to do is just help people. It's not like we're teaching the, the book, you know, we're just teaching experiences. What we've done, what Juan's done, what everyone's done. Like Airbnb has been a big hit for you guys, huh? Oh, yeah. It's one of the best things you probably ever did, huh? Yeah, I love it. And when I learned that the houses that we have, we build equity and then you can go and get. Borrow against it. Yeah. All your properties and you get some money and you can use that to buy more properties. It's just like never ending cycle, huh? Yeah, it's cool. And I love this. Yeah. Because I mean, someone else at the end of the day is paying the mortgage on the place if, if you're renting it out and stuff. And. Oh yeah, building the portfolio, trying to build that generational wealth. That's what, what I'm trying to do, you know. So, yeah, it beats working. It'd be, I mean, we still work every day, but, well, doing it that. Way, leveraging your equity. Yeah, it's like the bank gives you money to get free houses, basically. Yeah. They pay for it for you. Yeah. Yeah. Are you gonna give a class, too, or what? Like, at the round table? I think. I think. I think you should. Yeah, I think you'll be good. That's how I ended up with three Airbnbs. How many. How many rentals do you have besides the Airbnbs? So. Three. Three. Three. Yeah. And then two commercial. Nice. Nice. And on the Airbnb, like, for myself, I got. I got two that are running one that we're finishing in, and with my brother and my mom, we have. Let me see. One, three. And we're about to. Well, we're finishing building the third one with them, and then we're about to do another one. A duplex. Heck, yeah. I'm gonna build a duplex this year. I'm excited about that. Yeah, I'm building a duplex this year. Hey, we need to do a grand opening. When you start. Guess the. Get the. The footing and all that. Bring us over, do a ceremony. Hey, let's celebrate each other's success. Yeah. I think be good. And it inspires us, you know? Yeah. Goodness. My turn. No, it's a great feeling, man. I've never built anything. Well, I have, but through my dad, but on my own with my wife was our house. And this is. I was looking through the pictures. I'm like, look, this is the land with. By itself. And then. And then the footing and rebar. And then, like, the foundation and the brick or whatever, blocks, and then the. In espanol, the plateau, the plate or whatever. And putting. I was like, dang. Like, that's cool. And now it's done. It's like. It feels good. Yeah. You know, if you download the company cam app, you could just search for it, and it's all in one little folder. There it is. I'm still trying to get you on company house call Pro still. Yeah. Yes. You don't. You don't do a lot of photos on it or what? Not really. So what? I take thousands of my guys, they use. What's that? WhatsApp. Oh, what's up? So I just make a WhatsApp group for per project. Oh, that's. And I just go recording walkthroughs and I point out, hey, we need to do this, this, this, this. Send it to them. And I'll be like, hey, we need this done today and tomorrow we need to do this so nice. That's how I kind of. That's your little system. My little system with them and they love. Yeah. This. All I do one a group per project and then I have one, I get one of my guys a card. I was like here's this little. On this message you're going to send me all your receipts. Cuz sometimes he forgets to give them or he's gone and I'm not there way he just sends me. I. I've got a better way for you. I have it on my. On the card. It's a company card so I could just see myself where it's at but I forget sometimes to do that so I just send it over and that one's linked to my wife and my wife keeps on like this is for this project. That way I don't do it. Plus for them. You know I know how that is. You know for them you have to whatever best works for them. You know I tried to get them company cam but like she here. My guys were like I don't know how to use this. I don't want to learn to use this. They're not interested in learning. They just want to work. Yeah. And they're used to WhatsApp so that's what I use. I like that actually. Yeah. That's a good explanation on that. So that's why I don't whatever I want to use it but if they don't want to use it, half of. Us use it and half of us don't. On my side it's like we have a thing called Connect Team. It's what everyone does their shift notes and all that stuff on. And it's cool. I'm still die hard company cam for all the construction stuff I do. It's just so much better. You know. I had 7,000 pictures on my phone and it was wild. So now that it's on it by itself and folders, it's a paid for thing but it's totally worth it to me. Yes, yes. Documents, pictures. That's the part I like. Yeah. But I haven't really used it. Yeah. Because my guys don't use it. So I'm like why am I. Yeah. Well you can use it for your purposes. You know like if y' all needed. If we did a project together, I can literally send you a link and you click it and go through it. Might not work for our guys as much as it does us as business owners but it's, it's nice for the client. I mean you'd Be surprised. I start a project and I take pictures at the beginning and then I send them a timeline link. And every single time I upload a photo, it shows them the progress of the project. Oh, that's pretty. And then at the end, it shows you the completed project, you know, and before and after shows your logo. The whole works. It's. It's beneficial for construction company, you know, just might not be for the workers as much, you know. Is that the company came one. Oh, yeah. I'll send you a link, a referral link on that too. You got that market when I might be switching to QuickBooks on everything, but I'm just super organized and I expect things to be certain way, you know, so I'm probably a little OCD about it. Yeah. All right, well, guys, we got Esmeralda Rubio already in the studio. Jonathan's gonna go grab her, and she's going to be talking to us about a little bit of, I would say, what she's going to hit that day. I know Randy has a couple notes. I don't know if you want to. We'll let her lead into. Yeah, I. I'll ask her a couple questions, but I think we're just doing this for the. The publicity of the. The meeting. I think it's cool. I think it'll be beneficial to bring the speakers in, let them have a little FaceTime with it, and then talk about their stuff, you know, so, yeah, I think this will all work out well. Hey, how are you? Welcome. How are you? Good. That's cool. So we've been talking about the first roundtable of 2026, and now there's, you know, a group, you know, leading it, and, and you're going to be the. First speaker, so no pressure. No pressure. I'm excited and nervous at the same time. Yeah. What are you nervous about? You've. You've been there before, so it's like riding the bicycle, right? Well, that's the good thing. I gotten to know more of these people, so it's getting a little bit better. Not as nervous as before. Yeah. Yeah. And then I, I remember a long time ago, I invited you to the podcast and you were like, no, I'm not embarrass or whatever, but I've seen you doing videos and videos, so I could see from where you were at to now, you're more. You're comfortable and like, it's just the more you do it, the better you're going to get, you know, so they. Say fake it till you'll make It So it's very. That's funny. That's true. So, well, welcome to the podcast. Well, tell us, like what can people expect? I mean we talked about the round table, the purpose and what we're trying to do. So what can people expect on February 12th at the Russellville Country Club at 6pm what can they expect? That you're going to be leading it. So. Yeah, so one of the things that I really want to talk about is how you can use rental properties to not have to pay in into taxes to the irs. So a lot of business owners as you are using this as a tax strategy. And what is really interesting is that even me as an accountant, I didn't know about these tax strategies. So the rich people, what they're doing is they're paying, you know, people to actually look at the IRS code, find all the loopholes and then they're using that to their advantage. So I'm bringing this knowledge, being able to, you know, any ordinary person can use it to help, you know, bring down their taxes. There's a really famous one, I think Juan, you've seen him, Carlton Dennis, have you seen. You sent me a video of his a while back ago. You don't remember? I don't remember. Really? Yeah, like a center. Actually I found him out through you. You sent me a video and he was talking about like self employment taxes, putting your kids on payroll. I think I was looking into how can I pay less taxes legally and I'm not getting to jails to be away. And they're like, oh, I don't understand this, but it's not that. Well, yeah, there you go. Yeah. So then I got to see in some of his videos and that's one of the things that he teaches is the real estate as a loophole as well. So he has really rich people like doctors that are making like 250, 000 or you know, making a million dollars. And then he teaches them how to use the real estate to offset their taxes. Wow. Well, if you guys want to offset your taxes, you guys need to come on February 12, you know, and for first timers, it's free. I know there's a fee, I guess we'll have it there for, you know, come. But I think it's kind of like when they say invest in yourself. You know, sometimes when everything's free, you kind of don't take it serious. But if you invest in yourself, plus is at the country club, there's food, drinks. So I mean, come out. I mean we're gonna Love to see all you guys there. So I think that's, that's a really interesting topic, especially with taxes, you know, tax seasons, you know, April, it's among us. Yeah. So it took some ways to kind of use those legal loopholes. Yeah. And also, you know, by not knowing this information, a lot of people make mistakes. And one of the most common mistakes I see are the when they're buying a house and then they sell it and then they want to buy another house, but now they're having to pay taxes on that first house that they sold. So part of their profit, you know, gets sent in, in for taxes. So what if you could use the section 1031 exchange and then just have the title company hold on to it and then you don't have to pay the IRS yet. You can use more now you have more power to, you know, purchase more and more, buy the next property. And then you delay that tax and you keep delaying. You delay forever. Yes. You know how. So let's say you have this, you know, you have a 100,000 home and then you, you sell it. Now you have, you know, 200,000. Then you, you keep going up. Well, you can inherit that to your children. So then they don't have to pay any taxes because when you inherit something, you get a step up basis. So now the value of what they received is whatever the value was, the market value of when they received it. So then Uncle Sam doesn't get any money. So that's one way. The other way is like loans. Loans are not taxable. So if you have a million dollar home, you know, you can take loans and then, you know, you don't have to pay taxes on that. Yeah, that's the brrr method. Buy, renovate, rent, refinance, Brrr. I ended up moving into the Airbnb because I didn't want to pay capital gains tax. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go. And then we'll Airbnb that thing while we build a house so we don't pay taxes on it, you know? Yeah. It was a larger number than I was willing to swallow to move past that, you know, so. And then I think everybody, when they do their first flip or you always underestimate all the costs that go to go with remodeling. So that's, that was a first hand experience for me too. Like, man, I had my little budget and like, we went way over budget. Does that happen to you? People don't realize what stuff costs at the end of the day? And I wanted it to be a higher end Airbnb. So we spent money, you know, and so I'm like, that costs way more than it should have. You know, I anticipated the roof and stuff like that, but the first time. What about you, Juan? When you did your first flip, did it cost more than you thought it was going to? Well, I've never actually flipped the house. I always say that I buy it to flip it, but I always keep it. Yeah, but you. You still put money into it, but I. Well, I kind of stay where I want to put the money. I'm like, I'm gonna put this much and that's it. Yeah, that's what I. I do. But so even if it's tempting to get, man, this better sink. Or to be like, no, I already. No one goes high end. Don't let him want to. You. I. I get it, but I already calculate for it. Okay. So he's more prepared for all the cost. I had an idea. This is what I do. I. I research, like, all the sinks and those shower bells, whatever I want, and then I make a list and I say, like, like this last house that we're building right now, one of the. The shower system, It's a, like, $1200. I could have just went and bought, like, a $201 in Lowe's, but I wanted the 1200 one. Yeah. So I just make my own budget based on that. And then since I. Whenever I know what the materials is going to cost me, then I'm. Then I go to, okay, what's the labor going to be costing me? And I kind of do like a. Little spreadsheet, but that helps because you have a construction company, too. Yeah. And then I'm like, okay, I know I'm going to save money doing this, which I can buy higher end, like, finish stuff. Have you had any big surprises? Like, mine was on. On. I have on a remodel. A house that I. Not on the new one. On the. On the one that's a remodel. I went. I bought, I seen it. I walked through it, and I was like, oh, I'm just gonna fix this. This one floor. Right. Because it was, like, sunk. And we went. We fixed that when we tore it up and I didn't care. Or I was like, I'm not even going to do a home inspection on it. Yeah, big mistake, Big mistake. I learned that the hard way, too. And I was like, we fixed stuff anyways. This. That was what I was saying, right? So, like, yeah, I want it. I'll take it. Did the closing and then I, like, went with my guys, let's tear this one out and, and do the floor. When we tore that one out, I'm like, I would look under it like, oh, it's the next room, too. And the next one. And the next one. It was like the whole house. We had to do subfloor on the whole house. Yeah. Wow. On the Airbnb, we. We didn't get a home inspection. It was in pretty tough shape. And I thought the same thing. We'll just fix it anyway. And then I went to get a termite contract, right? Yes. And they came inspected and we had termite damage on both sides of the garage wall, so we had to tear all that out. New studs, new framing, all that stuff. So I probably wouldn't have changed it. I probably wouldn't have gotten an inspection still. But it's one of those. If it would have been worse, I would have been deep crap, you know? So on termite damage, do you have to replace it? Oh, yeah, yeah. There's no choice. Yeah, some. Some may not, but I wasn't going to put it back together without replacing everything because if I sell the house, it needs to be ready for the next person, you know, and yeah, we. We tore everything out. They showed us exactly where it was. We removed all the drywall and. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, Jonathan. Yeah, they actually, they explained. I don't know if you were one of those meetings, you know, they say you had to non disclose or something. Yeah, you had to disclose everything or nothing. You know about it and you sell it and then find out it can come back at you and all that. So that's why they want the termite inspection. Well, I just wanted it because I wanted to make sure that I was covered because I knew if someone else wanted to purchase a home later down the road, if I didn't continue to do the Airbnb because I didn't know how successful it was going to be as an Airbnb or not. So I was just taking a chance with a good group of guys around me, though, they pushed me to buying that and doing that, and I'm like, okay, so I could do it. And then, you know, you found it. It was like, well, that sucks. But we, we went ahead and redid everything. It let me see what the house is built out of. You know, it's two by six framing, not two before. So that was cool. And got to experience what tunnels on concrete look like and termite damage. And it brought a lot of learning to me on that, you know? Yeah. Oh, well, you got a little experience on that termite. Why don't you explain a little bit about that one? Yeah, yeah. We did a subfloor. It was sunk. I almost fell through to it through. I mean, it was bad, you know, but the owners, they don't know until you show them pictures. You explain. I mean, these were years of termites just eating the wood and all the nests, like going up. Was it active? Yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah. So we had to go in there, clean everything up and then add visqueen and then, you know, just re. Pretty much grade underground. All the. All the. The crawl space, all the dirt. Yeah. So that it was just. It was built bad. Like they. It's kind of like they digged and left all the mounds of dirt and then just built on top. But we were able to fix. We just did one in January that was under pest control with the company, and they still had termites active. Like they didn't think they were active. And we pulled walls out and it was like, oh, wow. So they had to come treat again. Yeah. And they held the. The termite company responsible, you know, because they're paying for their stuff. So. Yeah, we got the family on a termite contract. They came and then did everything they have to do before we covered. That way that was taken care of. And then we. This queen and everything. And the new subfloors. It's pretty wild how a little bug can eat a whole house up, huh? Well, two morals of the story. Get your house inspected before you buy. And the other one now is like, now I. I bought a termite contract. No, I bought a suit because I. Sometimes I'll go under the house. So now I have a. Like a dicky pullover because I. I went in that first. I came out all like, oh, my gosh. As I forget that. So now I have a little. A little dicky pullover with a tracksuit, you know. Yeah. So there's just some examples of stuff that you learn by coming to a real estate, you know, round table. You get to bounce. You know, what you learn from other people. Yeah. And their experiences. Yeah. So come out February 12, La Casa Yena, which is full house. You know, you can come over here, bro, if you want. Yeah, I think that'd be cool if you come over. Yeah. But I would. I know there's an event this weekend, but I don't think this will be out by then, so. So you Know, but we already been promoting it out there, so. Yeah. Yeah. February 12th Russellville Country Club 6:00pm Real Estate Round Table 2026. I, I like to say 2026 because it's like, it's like, it's, it got handed over, now there's more people and I think it's gonna. Not that the one before wasn't great, but I think expanding on it. Expanding. From what I see it's. Everybody has like a say and there's more ideas and just move forward together, you know. Yeah. Brandon couldn't be here today either. He had some other stuff going on. So I think it's cool that Juan was able to show up. Yeah, yeah, it's cool to have four or five or six of us going on. Yeah, we're gonna hold each other accountable this year. Yeah. So it's cool. I'm a, I'll make my T shirt, you know, but so I mean we talked about the topics and you know, the real estate coming, everything. Is there anything else anybody wants to add? Be there, be square. There you go. Any shout outs or anything? No. He did good in the nervous seat over there today. I know. Yeah, he did good. I thought he's gonna be more quiet because he was quiet over here, but just give him a mic and he turns into Juan. He comes with a lot of knowledge. Juan has a lot of knowledge, so does Brandon. They're both pretty knowledgeable people. So. Jonathan, he's got knowledge too. You know, it's, it's, it's cool to be around a good group people. I'm grateful that you're part of it now because. Thanks. You're coming into this thing and it'll, it'll be cool for you too. Trying to invest and get a property, so. Yeah, I'm excited for that. How's y property? How'd the house on 4th street go? Did it. So it's still for sale. So if anybody wants a new home. It's a really nice interior. Yeah. Brand new house too. Are you selling the apartments? Yes, I just. Is that the Field street yesterday? Field Street Apartments. I didn't realize you own the Field street apartments. Yeah, like five showings on it already. The realtor really fast. Yeah, the realtor that list them, she's pretty good. Sarah, there's, there's good realtors all in this town, you know, from every company there's a good realtor to work with. I've, I've personally know probably one in every one of them, which is cool. She's really fast is what I like. Yeah, very, very. She's thorough too, so. And she's lockable. So it should sell pretty quick for you. Yeah, I have another tax free idea. I think Juan knows a little bit about it, but there's another way to make tax free income. So I'm reinvesting some of my money where I can get more tax free income. So that's going to be part that I'm going to go over as well on the round table. All right, well, you guys heard it here, guys. Esmeralda Rubio from Rubio Accounting Firm is going to be holding the workshop on February 12th at 6pm at the Russellville Country Club as part of the Round Real Estate Roundtable. So come out if you if it's your first time, you don't pay a fear anything, but come out. It's going to be great. And well, thank you for watching another episode of 11 here in Russell Bull coming at you from Town Square and the co create Innovation Hub and to many more. Thank you for watching. See you guys next