Magic Meets Adventure

In this episode, Tim and Ayren choose between current Universal and Disney attractions vs. the attractions that replaced them. Listen and play along as we pit old and new against each other to see which era is the best! 

What is Magic Meets Adventure ?

Magic Meets Adventure is where Disney meets Universal! This is your one stop shop for all things Disney and Universal Theme Parks. As park enthusiasts, Tim and Ayren share their ideas, rankings, travel tips, history, and more to help create an everyday escape into the incredible worlds of magic and adventure!

Episode 3
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Gentlemen, boys and girls, dreamers of all ages, welcome back to the Magic Meets Adventure podcast. I am Tim, and I bring the magic. And I'm Aaron, I bring the adventure. And we got another exciting episode for you today on episode number three of the show. Today we're going to be taking a look at the past and present of Universal and Disney attractions.

This time we're taking kind of a this or that approach to some attractions that we know and love from the past compared to their present day counter. I have an entire list here of 11, and Aaron has not seen these yet. I have not. And so this will be interesting. I'm never prepared.

You're never prepared. This will be interesting to see. There's a few on this list I don't think either of us have done, but that's okay. I like that, it kind of gives you this chance to like, you know, if you could, if you only had a chance to do one of these like would you rather sort of stuff.

So, I think it'll be good. Yeah. And it's not all that are on this list because There's 50 [00:01:00] billion of them, , but go ahead and place your lap bar right in front of you, pull up on the yellow tab, and let's have a ride, let's head on in to number one.

Let's do it, what you got? All right, number one, kicking off to probably two of my favorites. We're kicking it to Epcot over here. Um, okay. Kicking it to Ellen's Energy Adventure. Okay. And Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind. Oh gosh. Okay, so I've seen video of Ellen's and it looks pretty cool. It looks very Epcot y, but Guardians is one of the best rides on Disney property right now.

So yeah, I'm taking that all day. No, I definitely agree. I mean, I grew up. Riding Ellen's was probably one of my favorite attractions as a little kid. I'm dead serious Shout out to Bill Nye the science guy. What a legend. But that being said guardians is is something else man It's something else. It's when it comes to the ride system in general Like, , do you think you were the type of person that would naturally default more towards like coasters over dark rides?

Like [00:02:00] if they were to ever replace a dark ride with a coaster, does that feel like an automatic Trump for you? Or would you argue? Yeah. So in this case, like I enjoyed the previous attraction. I enjoyed Ellen's. But like I love marvel, I love guardians of the galaxy. So it's like Okay, we gonna see what happens here.

Yeah, this is one of those rides that i've never done , so i'd love to hear just from people who are watching what their experiences were with it and stuff guardians is also the thea Winner for outstanding coaster. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Oh, I saw that Yeah, no, it's super solid keeping it in the same park because this park is a graveyard for these things.

Horizons and mission space So i've never done horizons me neither. It's a shame, but I have done mission space And I would almost do anything over Mission Space, and I mean, I've heard from people who are lifelong Disney fans and stuff that Horizons might be the best attraction Disney's ever created.

, so yeah, that's, [00:03:00] that's gonna get my vote. Same here. , as a major Disney history buff, 100 percent that is the, the ride to go with. At the same time as well. It's like a sequel to Carousel of Progress, and if you enjoy Carousel of Progress, , it's a fitting sequel. I love the Carousel of Progress.

Let's go ahead cuz like I mentioned Epcot is a graveyard for Let's move over to Universal real quick. Okay. We got a few got a few here. I want to talk about a graveyard Universal definitely falls in that category. Oh for sure. There's a bunch of like shows and stuff that I was looking at earlier I'm like, yeah, this is ridiculous.

Yeah, let's start off with a tough one Confrontation or revenge of the mummy. I didn't know that's what took its place. That's really interesting Yeah, I just learned this today, too So man, I'm actually okay with that like I think we talked about this in one of the previous episodes but like one of my biggest gripes with Universal is they've moved so far away from practical effects and Both of those rides still use practical effects A [00:04:00] great degree.

I don't know if this one's just like FOMO or if it's not like a better ride system. I don't know. What do you think you have an answer for this one? I mean, this is all about personal preference. So I have seen only bits and pieces of confrontation. Okay. I mean, I've ridden Revenge of the Mummy and it's fantastic.

Yeah, if you watched episode one, it's my favorite of Universal, Florida I don't know like part of me is like I still would want to see it in person. Mm hmm Kind of that fear of missing out. Yeah, it's the other thing but yeah, that's how I feel. I remember when I got a mummy You're going mummy.

I'm going mummy. I remember being a kid. I was like seven years old went to universal and confrontation was one of the rides I had the option to go on. I mentioned how I was like afraid of theme parks and rides and stuff in the first episode that also translated over to universal as well.

So I didn't go on confrontation. , because I was afraid of it, but I remember my family being like, Oh no, there's just like this monkey and you just go by it and stuff. And I think they were trying to downplay it because I didn't go on it, but when I go back and watch videos, [00:05:00] man, I'm like, yes, this is what I wish Universal had more of.

, Oh man, I'm trying to think, especially considering the state of that park, which one is. Beneficial I would say I would say mummy because What I would do is is I would take all the screen based rides and make those practical effects But you still need a solid coaster in that park and so you have Gringotts, which is there like that's cool, but that's like a weird coaster sort of not really Then you have Rip Ride Rocket, which like they have to do something with at some point It's got to get a refurb at the least if not a complete retheme.

So yeah, I would say let's keep the mummy there I'm uh, yeah, I'm gonna stick with that. I like it. I like it. We will talk about Gringotts later on this list. Okay But let's move back to Back to Disney back to Epcot real quick. Yeah Frozen Ever After Or Maelstrom. Okay, so what you're gonna learn. Again, you heard the history a bit of me in theme parks.

Like I haven't been going to the parks my entire life. I went once when I was younger. Never done [00:06:00] Maelstrom. Sad. I feel sad for you. So I think I know your answer. But I do think, I like the Frozen representation in the park. I like the use of IPs. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with Frozen on this one. I respect it.

I mean they did a good job bringing that. Now that they have the Hong Kong Disneyland Frozen area that is either pretending when you see this either just about to open or is open, I mean they have that exact same ride with like the face animatronic of like, uh, the like projection mapping. Not even projection mapping, no.

Oh yeah, that's right. Tokyo Disneyland with Beauty and the Beast. Can we get that at Epcot? Dude, oh gosh. Please, . I can be part of the 60 billion. , and I'd be totally okay with it. But, that being said, Do you like the projection faces thing? It works in Runaway Railway, which we'll also get to.

It does not work for Frozen. Because of the animation style, you feel? Because of the animation [00:07:00] style. And how the character is set up it fits better frozen ever after it doesn't I agree with that It was cool at the time not so much anymore that being said though. I gotta go maelstrom Okay, that was that was Because I was again big dark ride fan.

That was my favorite attraction at upcott really was when I was a kid Yeah now that's changed because of cosmic rewind if I was a kid maelstrom would have scared the mess out of me Like I knew that for a fact. Yeah, I still like remember hearing disappear disappear And I may re watch that ride at least twice a year.

Really? Just to kind of remember. Yeah. I miss this. But anyways, we're going to hop back over to Universal, we're flip flopping a little bit. I like the flip flopping. Exactly. Flip flop like a fish baby. Uh, maybe not so much. This one, however, just has nothing to do with fish. Uh oh. I was hoping we would go Jaws here, but.

You know, uh, that's true. That would have been a better transition, but, you know. Back to the future Oh back to the future don't even have to finish the statement man back to the [00:08:00] future 100 I hate the simpsons ride so much Yeah back to the future I completely agree because back to the future is a phenomenal movie.

Here's the thing Disney their advantage and what they have over universal that universal will never be able to compete with is the nostalgia factor And because of the state of the properties that Universal owns Like Disney's characters are timeless. Mm hmm Universal's Classic stuff is old.

Does that make it make sense? Right? Like, oh, I agree 100 I don't don't get me wrong like back to the future is a great movie legendary movie, but , it dates itself. Very much so, right? It, it has not aged very well, so. Since 2015, it's really aged itself. Yeah, exactly. So I say all that to say, I do think Universal needs some way to keep the original nostalgia, at least of the parks.

And I think there's a lot of these older attractions that do that. Just overall, I mean, I understand it's the same ride system and it might even be the same ride mapping, but the [00:09:00] experience was just so much cooler, I thought, for Back to the Future. No, I, I definitely agree with that.

And I'm also, I mean, A little biased because I'm not a big fan of the Simpsons, , to be honest. Yeah, me either. Me either. At any rate, , we'll, we'll stick in a universal, , now we'll do Jaws. , although technically it's Diagon Alley that it was replaced by. But I put Escape from Gringotts because it is the only attraction there.

So, Jaws or Gringotts? Is it actually Gringotts? I thought it was, Fast and the Furious or is they just all they just kind of lumped in together a little from what the official Universal Orlando page said it was Jaws was replaced by along with that whole area by Diagon Alley got you or diagonally as Harry Potter once said

escape from Green Goss dang that's good again I'm gonna go jaws on this one I think you just need the nostalgia factor Also, if Escape from Green Gods didn't exist, you still have Hogwarts on the other side of the park, and so you would still have that Harry Potter presence. , Escape from Green Gods is a good ride, it's not a great [00:10:00] ride, I think, I do think it's really, really good.

, I'd say an A tier attraction, maybe not an S tier. , Jaws is just looked back on so fondly, and I know it had a ton of issues, and like, experiencing it in real life wasn't as You know, it might have let you down a little bit. , but yeah, I think we need jaws back in the parks. I like it.

I like it. It's weird because like I enjoy jaws and like the history of it like jaws the movie not jaws the ride. I never did that. I don't know Imagine tough one. It's I mean for me jaws was like No, what's funny is you didn't do Jaws, I didn't do Jungle Cruise, but for me, Jaws is like a Jungle Cruise, but like, with an adventure element to it, I always liked the live actors that were on there, , I felt like it was just kind of unique.

It was an opening day attraction, which like, so yeah, maybe this is just more of the soft spot and kind of missing that, but. Yeah, no, I mean there should be a nostalgia factor, gosh, this is tough. I guess I'll lean jaws too because also like the one thing like again, like you said Gringotts is is solid There's a lot of things in there that is like, oh, [00:11:00] this is actually really really cool.

Yeah. But it has the plague problem of Universal which is screens. Yeah, it's not to say it's a bad thing but man to have like a animatronic of Voldemort and Bellatrix. Yeah, that would be cool dope I do feel that the Harry Potter rides in the park utilize screens better than any other attractions at Universal Agreed whether it's escape from Gringotts or forbidden journey.

Those two ride systems. They're unique enough that I feel like they Yeah, yeah, I do like the fact that they also kept all the original actors. Yeah. Yeah It'll be interesting to see if they refurb it with this, , Harry Potter series. Yeah, I don't know I think there might be well, yeah, I mean they're doing the like

fantastic Beast sort of stuff in epic universe. It's kind of the direction they're going with there I yeah, and there's still I mean you you don't have , lost continent anymore. So they could always expand. They could always bring in different IPs and stuff there. So I would be interested to see what they do with it.

They're making so much money off of it. They're definitely going to try to do more and [00:12:00] milk it a hundred percent. Although I think like, at least comment wise, I've heard from universal fans has been like, please don't get rid of it. Like don't, don't expand it just to be another part of Hogwarts. .

I mean you're getting that's what i've heard I was pretty surprised that they decided to go one with fantastic beast for epic universe because it's I mean as far as I know those movies weren't really received super well. No, um, but i'm Yeah i'm interested I mean they're reaching the point now where like i'm sure Like if they did go over the lost continent like 50 of their parks 40 maybe It's like becoming all harry potter ip and so I get it.

It makes them money. So they're gonna go for it, but Yeah, better idea move jaws over into anyways, that's for another another episode for another time Give me John's back. However, you need to make it All right. Let's head. Let's head over to to Disney. So we got two more universal ones 20, 000 leagues under the sea or [00:13:00] finding Nemo submarine voyage.

So we're heading across to Disneyland. Okay here real quick I'm gonna go 20, 000 leagues same full transparency. I wish they would get rid of the submarine rides. But I remember my mom went on 20, 000 leagues when she was a kid and before she took me to Disney world, she was like, I want you to do this cause it's like the one thing I remember.

And then like obviously we couldn't do it. So, Yeah, so just for that fact alone, i'd love to see that attraction come back also i mean Finding nemo's cute again. It does utilize screens a lot. Which I get you have to with those types of characters and stuff, but Yeah, it's kind of a hit or miss for me.

Yeah, I didn't mind nemo I think the story wise was better than the one over in the seas pavilion at epcot But I think the ride better is better at Epcot, but that's a point No, that being said also 20, 000 leagues is an underrated Disney movie Yeah, that is one of those things that I think Rides that that line of nostalgia versus old.[00:14:00]

Mm hmm So I can see why Disney made the decision that they did but yeah, I mean I get it but like Hey, the cool thing is though, there is still a submarine, like from 20, 000 Leagues, at Disneyland Paris. Yeah. Their Discovery Land. Yeah. So, there is that. Yep. Alrighty, next one up is,

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride or Winnie the Pooh. I'm specifically talking about Walt Disney World. Gosh. Because Those are Bangers, bro. Yeah, both of those are so good. Mm-Hmm? . The one at Disney World was slightly different, but not by much compared to the one at Disneyland. Was Disneyland's the og? Disneyland's was the og.

Was it opening day? , I think so. It's because it's the og. I'm gonna go Winnie the Pooh. I don't think you need, there's such a charm about Mr. Toe's Wild ride. Mm-Hmm. . And I think just like with Fantasyland there's just this, this, the way that it draws in like, especially younger audience and Walt Disney World, I think [00:15:00] Winnie the Pooh is a good fit in there.

Like even where it's nestled in the park feels like a good spot for it. I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna stick with Winnie the Pooh for Disney World. I'm going to agree with that. Granted, I also think it's better than the one at Disneyland, which took over Country Bears there. Yeah. But that being said, like as one of, that's probably my favorite

disney World Fantasyland attraction. Yeah, it's solid, man. It's, I like it a lot. It's so fun. Cute. Yep. This is also probably the one that is going to be the most hot take there because there was such protests. Oh yeah. Back when. Yeah. It's just the way it's going to be, man. Facts. All right. Let's move, let's move back to universal here real quick.

Dragons challenge or Hagrid's I knew this one was gonna come up and I've actually been thinking about it all day I'm gonna go Hagrid's Hagrid's Hagrid's is go to dude. It's so flipping good And then we're getting another dueling coaster over at epic universe soon.

So Yeah, I'm gonna say leave Hagrid's right where it is. It's oh gosh, it's so good. Yeah, it's so good I do feel like that's the thing man Obviously [00:16:00] fans are gonna protest and get upset whenever a beloved attraction leaves the park And so if you're gonna do that You have to make it better and I think universe will knock that out of the park with this one I agree.

Hagrid's is phenomenal. I'm really excited about that dueling coaster. That is like a star ship. Yeah. Stars. Something racers, I think is the like proposed name for it right now. It's like the one that's like most done, I think currently in Epic Universe and it looks insane. Yeah, it looks awesome. Can't wait to can't wait to hop on it at some point.

Alright, this one, Twister, Ride It Out, or Race Through New York City with Jimmy Fallon. I did not realize that that's what replaced Twister. Now I'm even more mad. This is why it's at number 8 on the list. Love Twister, Ride It Out, man. It is one of the vivid memories I have from going as a kid. I mean, when you talk about practical effects in Universal, this is like the cream of the crop.

You create a tornado inside of a show building. Like, fantastic. And then, man, Jimmy Fallon, like, gosh, everything about that ride just feels like such a [00:17:00] cash grab. Like, oh, people like Jimmy Fallon, let's put this in here. And then that's about where it feels like the thought process stopped. . So it's to ride it out for me.

I could go on and on about it, but that's, that's the bottom line. Yeah. I didn't even know that's what replaced it. And I remember walking through, , universal Florida. I'm like, why is there a Jimmy Fallon attraction? We're still trying to answer that question. Why is that a thing? Like, I don't, I don't understand.

I don't like it. Yeah. , it's like if, , Disney replaced, , . Disney jr. With a Jimmy Kimmel attraction, it would be like if Disney gave Ellen DeGeneres a ride. That's what it Oh, wait

It's a totally different experience, but like, you know that that had Bill Nye so it means I get you Shout out to everyone else who watched Bill Nye in science class instead of your teacher actually teaching All right, that was that one I'm sorry I don't [00:18:00] really have an answer for either. Well, you just said it was, yeah.

I lean Twister because I enjoy the movie. It's a really good movie. , the amount of effort that went into that ride versus the amount of effort that went into Jimmy Fallon is just like what are we doing? Budget cuts. Oh my gosh, it's ridiculous. Budget cuts. It's not just Disney folks. There was explosions.

I mean, there was a flying cow. It was freaking great, man. There was a flying cow. It was a flying cow. They recreated the scene from, that's awesome. Yeah, it was incredible. And I remember as a kid being like, that was the one ride that I was like, this is the most magical thing that I remember. But I remember the entire time, like.

That was the first time I was ever on a ride and I'm like I want to know how this works Like I want to go behind the scenes. I want to know how this happens Because it was just that yeah, it's incredible man. Yeah. All right last one and probably then maybe what could be most controversial Oh snap going back to Disney.

Okay. This is the last one like for all of them last one Oh, yeah, we flew through these but that's good. That's great through these. Yeah great movie ride Or Mickey and [00:19:00] Minnie's Runaway Railway. I know my answer. I'm going to let you answer this one first, because I really want to hear what your thoughts are.

Oh gosh, I don't. Now that I've done the one in Disneyland, in Toontown, which I think works so much better. The Mickey and Minnie's? Mm hmm. Okay. I think it works really, really well there. And the queue is phenomenal. All that stuff. Great. I gotta go Great Movie Ride. Do you think Mickey and Minnie's would work better?

In the like, uh, I don't even know what it's called, but like the circus area of Fantasyland You know I'm talking about where like Barnstormer is and stuff like if they cleared that out and made that more of a If they kept Toontown fair, it would have been a perfect spot. Yeah, I'm still I have no idea why they got rid of that because fantasyland needs an expansion to put a seven dwarves mine train, but And Mickey's house, bro.

What? Oh, I I get it. I get it. That's yeah But anyway, I I got a great movie ride. I like how they get rid of it And they're like, you know what this these parks need a Mickey attraction. It's like well, you had one that people actually yeah [00:20:00] But yeah, okay. I would go great movie ride as well

Here's a follow up to that. Do you think that if we had great movie ride, would you still want it to keep the same movies that were there? Or is it something you would want to see? Like maybe some of those scenes and stuff change over time. I think some of it changed over time.

Yeah. I remember writing it as a kid and this is when I was like really getting into movies and stuff. I'm like, Oh, this is great and wonderful. I love movies. I wish I'm like. Why is there not a lot of star wars Why is there like there's certain movies that were missing that I grew up with so I would have loved to see you know, Some of those things but that being said going back through some of those classic movies like wizard of oz the original tarzan casablanca Which I know like, Was it like the the witch the wicked witch wasn't that like one of the first like really advanced animatronics?

, I think so that Disney had like I remember watching video of that and be like, holy crap I thought that was a real person like it reminds me a lot of the hondo animatronic and to think of how long ago that was like that's [00:21:00] so impressive Yeah, I mean it was it was great. My favorite scene though.

100 percent was the indiana jones part. Really? Oh, yes by far I was a big Indiana Jones fan as a kid. Big Indy guy? Big Indy guy.

I mean there's just something about it. Also the use of like live actors and You know the surprises that were in it and , it also was the first time I Encountered alien.

Oh, yeah, so I never watched it like growing up. Yeah, so that was my only experience with Ripley and the alien they were yeah, I'm terrified me. I'm trying to find it I don't know if you know any of these off the top of your head But there's a there's something I was watching but it was talking about like all the movies that almost made it into the great movie Ride, they're like weren't able to happen like some different scenes and stuff.

They wanted to pull off but couldn't And then other ones was like there's some rides that they would have to get rid of because of like licensing rights and all that Sort of stuff which like it's always gonna be an issue for Disney, right? Especially when they're not using their own IPs, but I mean like think about it.

I mean, okay, [00:22:00] so Disney They have Lucasfilm. They have Marvel. They have Fox Muppets Muppets. I'm just trying to think of Pixar was that did we talk about this? Like a great movie ride but themed to Muppets Yes, did we talk about that? I think so or I saw something recently I do I feel like I remember hearing about this somewhere like that was gonna be like a retheme or like it was gonna be their way of Being able to keep some of the movies represented but like not have to pay for the likenesses of certain characters and stuff like that They were gonna put it in if I remember correctly, they were gonna put it where Muppets Courtyard was where Grand Avenue is now They were gonna put it kind of towards the back by like Mama Melrose. Yeah, and the Muppets Christmas shop That is still yet to be opened but you know, I'm Great movie, right? It's fantastic. It's not to say mickey minney runaway railway is bad.

Yeah, because I really like the neon sign I think it's all right, but okay. Here's one last question before we wrap this up. Let's go for it. [00:23:00] What do you think will be the next? I don't know if classic is the right word to use. What do you think will be the next attraction to close? Or get a retheme remodel.

Oh gosh No one in a million years would have said, like five years ago, no one would have said Splash Mountain, right? And yet, here we are. Well, my next answer would have been Country Bears, but that was just announced. Yeah, now they're getting that refurb on that, right? Yeah. Or an update. Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about that one.

I'm glad they're keeping them, though. Yeah, same. Um, oh, goodness. I don't know, either, even to think about it, And we'll just say Disney produced them and all that's controversial. Ideally, ideally, it would be Figment. Cause I don't know if you saw, but they recently posted, Figment, like the meet and greet character, at Disney Studios in Burbank.

Oh, that's cool. And him meeting with people. Yeah. And then he, at the end of it, goes into the Imagineering office. Oh, snap. That's funny. I could be wrong and I could have mistaken that. Can, disney, right. , uh, serious moment with Tim here. We, we need to, we need to rethink, [00:24:00] we need to bring back the dream finder.

But that would probably be if I had to do like a shocking one. I'm trying to think too, and I, I literally can't think of one. I mean, I know there's probably for contractual reasons, um, rock and rollercoaster is probably going to be changed over soon. Yeah. , do you see them? Well, I guess they can't legally.

I was going to ask if you think it's going to get the parish treatment and do the like Iron Man or Avengers thing and then like overhaul that back area. Yeah, they can't do it. Yeah, unfortunately. What do you think of Athena too? Do you think they just try to find another band? Do you think they would try to?

Depends on what they want to do. Yeah. They want to connect it to animation courtyard and make like a whole. Land out of that. I could see them doing something like that. Yeah but that depends if They still keep Sunset Boulevard. I think it'll be a Band of some sort but it but I think they're gonna end up gonna go an IP route with this one Yeah, they've got so many options man.

As long as they keep essentially the bones of the ride the [00:25:00] same. I'm cool You know, you can theme it and rescan it to whatever you want, but screw the theming. Just give me that Yzma coaster. I'm kidding. Okay. Hey, I'm kidding I'm here for it. I'm kidding tie it with tower of terror Pull the lever you go down into Into some sort of roller coaster thing that brings you all the way over.

That would be the wildest overhaul Sounds like a mousetrap article. Yeah, it does. It does. Well, that's good, man. I like that. That was a solid list. Yeah. I mean, obviously, like I said earlier, it's not all of them. You know, you have journey into imagination that was rethemed 50 billion times. You have the people mover replaced by the rocket rods at Disneyland, which goes without saying which one is the worst one.

I mean, there's so many, so many attractions that have been replaced, particularly at Disney because it's had. Such a long history of the parks, but I mean, honestly, I think for the most part, they've done a good job, both Disney and Universal in giving. Some great attractions after [00:26:00] replacing some sometimes you have some misses.

Yep. Universal has some misses Universal has some misses. Yes. Disney has some misses. Disney does have some misses as well But for the most part, I think they've done pretty good there. Yep Here's what we what we know for sure fans of the parks when they announce that there's a ride changing. Don't lose your mind Don't lose your mind.

I understand people are going to get upset but there are people getting paid billions of dollars to Triggered this sort of stuff out. And so just trust the process , . Or wait till, wait till it opens. There you go. There you go. At least wait till it opens and then you can, then we can talk about it.

But that being said, , thank you all so much for listening. , let us know your list. What is your this or that? , we'll try to have this posted on, , our Instagram, which, by the way, you should totally follow, at MagicMeetsAdventure there, , as well. , so go ahead and drop a follow there. And, of course, if you want to, go ahead, review us on, , whatever platform you're watching.

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