Eggheads

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Travis Bybee spent 25 years in banking, all while quietly building toward the life he actually wanted. He bought his first piece of land right out of college and spent the next two decades accumulating 1,400 acres, farming until dark after every shift, with one goal in mind: becoming a full-time farmer. The missing piece turned out to be eggs.

In this episode, Greg sits down with Travis to talk about how a chance meeting as a banker—not a farmer—sparked the idea for a layer operation unlike anything his neighbors had seen, and how he used everything he learned financing other people’s farms to build his own.

Here’s what we discuss with Travis:

• How Travis used 25 years of ag lending to design a better barn than the farmers he was financing
• Why eggs were the final puzzle piece that made full-time farming financially viable
• The year of research, 40 to 50 barn visits, and hundreds of YouTube videos before breaking ground
• Why he GC’d the entire construction himself — and how stressful that actually was
• What drew farmers from eight different states to pull into his driveway during construction
• The open house that drew over 1,000 people before a single bird arrived
• What a day in the life looks like running two 50,000-bird barns alongside a cattle and hay operation
• Faith, family, and farm — and what it means to build a life around all three

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Greg Schonefeld
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Editor
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Podcast Producer at Lower Street Media

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- Some people have hobbies.

They might golf or they
might like to go fishing.

And my hobby is farming.

(swooshing)

- Hey, everyone.

Welcome to the inaugural
video episode of "Eggheads."

If you're listening to us
on your normal podcast app,

it shouldn't sound much different,

but if you wanna see our
fancy new studio set up,

you should go check us out on YouTube.

(swooshing)

We all know the farmer's
life isn't an easy one.

It's all day, every day.

To do it, you really gotta love it.

And today's guest loved it so much

that he gave up his incredibly
successful finance career

to go build a life with
his family on a farm.

And not only did he build a
successful layer operation,

but in designing his barn

to fit the needs of a specific farm,

he built something truly unique.

So unique, in fact,

that people came in
from neighboring states

just to see what the
heck he was cooking up.

With that in mind, let's get
into it with today's guest,

Travis Bybee.

(cheerful music)

(swooshing)

You spent 25 years in finance,

and eventually became a bank president.

So by most people's
standards, you made it.

(Travis laughing)

That's a good career.

What was missing from that life?

- I did have a very fulfilling
career in the business world

and I enjoyed it,

and it allowed our family
to do a lot of things.

But my goal,

from whenever I was a little
kid growing up on the farm,

my grandpa farmed, my dad
farmed, my uncles farmed.

And so that was the goal in my life

was to become a full-time farmer.

But starting from scratch,
you know, it's tough.

You gotta buy land, you
gotta buy livestock,

and you can't just start
from scratch day one

and make that all happen, so.

It took an off the farm job
to make that become a reality.

And so, yeah, I've spent 25 years.

Bought my first piece of
land in the year 2000.

Over the years we've
accumulated about 1,400 acres.

So for those years, you know,

working off the farm and
accumulating and building the farm,

and spent a lot of long hours
coming home after working,

you know, eight to five job
at the bank, or whatnot,

come home and farm until after dark.

A lot of late nights,

but always with that goal in mind

of becoming a full-time farmer.

You know, we spent basically every dollar

we were able to save up
investing into properties

and local farms and into the
cattle industry to begin with.

So we have a cow-calf operation.

- The whole time you
were working at the bank,

were you farming on the side,

or was there a period where
you were pure banking?

How was that?

- So I started off in
the insurance industry.

I had an insurance office
in a local town there.

And then after a few years
moved over into banking.

And then like you said,

the last eight years of my banking career,

I was the president of
the local bank there.

But yeah, from day one, I
purchased my first farm.

I got out of college,

and a few months later a farm
came available to purchase,

and I scratched and clawed and
was able to make that happen.

And then, you know, four years later,

another local piece came available

and was able to purchase that.

And so we purchased our last
piece of ground in 2019.

So it took several years.

It didn't happen overnight.

So that was a long process
of trying to build a farm

big enough and efficient enough

to make it our full-time job.

Like I said, started off
with a cow-calf operation.

We sell a lot of hay.

We combine a lot of fescue
seed, Kentucky 31 fescue seed.

So we were a little bit diversified,

but it still wasn't enough
to make it a full-time gig.

So just hung in there with the banking.

And then the layer barns

came into the mix

and that allowed us to make
this our full-time life,

I guess you'd say.

- That's great.

So, man, I have a couple questions 'cause,

well, one, I'm curious,

like, what do the people
at the bank think?

Do they think you're crazy or, uh-huh?

- Everyone that's close to me,
friends, coworkers, family,

they've known that this
is what I wanted to do

for my whole life, so.

It's not a surprise to
anyone that's been around me

'cause everyone knew that
that was my end goal, so.

No one was surprised that this is the path

that I was working towards.

- Yeah.

Were you working, like, with ag clients,

or a whole range of clients?

Okay.

- Yeah, so my, you know, we
were a small town hometown bank,

so in that you deal with
whatever walks through the door,

you know, whatever the need is,

you help the client reach their goal,

or whatever their dream is.

But because of my background

and because of what I
did at home on the farm,

it was just natural for me to lean towards

the ag lending side of the things.

I was able to talk with the customers

and understood their trials

and the things that they
were going through, so.

I think it made the
customers feel comfortable

because they were talking
to somebody that knew,

you know, what they were feeling,

what they were dealing with.

And, you know, I was
also able to, you know,

you know, maybe a younger
first-time farm owner,

I was able to maybe give
them a little bit of advice

of what I experienced, so,
yeah, it worked really well.

And that side of the job I just loved.

Like I said, it was a very fulfilling job.

- Working with the farms.

Working with, yeah, people
trying to make it work, uh-huh.

- And when it comes to the
layer side of our operation

that we have today,

that wouldn't have happened
without my banking experience

because I did not grow
up on a chicken farm.

I did not have that experience growing up.

I gained that experience by
working with my customers

'cause we financed a lot of
chicken barns over the years.

So I did farm inspections

and was on-site seeing what
worked, what didn't work.

Obviously I seen the financial side of it

and I seen what worked and didn't work.

After they had their
barns for a few years,

they would, you know, tell me,

hey, I would've done this
a little bit different

if I could rebuild again, so.

Whenever we started our
project of building our barns,

it was not a new thing to me.

I made a mental note

of all the things that
those customers have said,

hey, I would do this a
little bit different.

And so that helped my wife and I

whenever we were planning our project.

- That's really interesting.

So you had a lot of general farm exposure,

but your exposure to eggs

didn't really happen until banking.

- That's exactly right.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- And were you, I mean, I
guess you saw the numbers first

and you were like, man, the
farming money's all in eggs.

(both laughing)

- Well, I don't know about that,

but it works really, really well

with our cattle operation
and our hay operation.

It was kind of the final puzzle piece

that we had been looking
for, so, you know.

We run a couple hundred
head of cow-calf pairs.

We have the hay sales and
the fescue seed combining,

which is just, like,

10 days or two weeks out of
the year, but the layer barns

fit that so well

because we can pack our
eggs in the morning.

Then we can, you know, go check the cows,

fix fence, whatever the day,

you never know what's
gonna happen on a farm,

but go bale hay in the middle of the day

and then come back to
the barns in the evening

and check it over and make
sure everything's okay.

So the timing wise of what's
required with the chicken barns

fit well with what we
already had established.

And then on the financial side of it,

a large expense for our cattle operation

and our hay operation was fertilizer.

We bought a lot of litter every year,

had to have it trucked in.

So that was our number one expense

that we incurred on that side of the farm.

And now we have the litter
produced by our barns.

So basically the only revenue

that we have to contribute to that is,

you know, my time as far as spreading it,

and some fuel and the
equipment to spread that, so.

So our fertilizer cost
on the cattle side of it

dropped tremendously, so, they
really work together well.

- That's really interesting.

So were eggs, was that the
last piece of the puzzle

that allowed you to leave the bank?

- It was, yes.

- Okay.
- Yes.

- Was that the plan or was
there kind of an aha moment?

- There definitely was an aha moment.

And I know exactly when it was.

I went to a meeting.

I was invited to go to
a meeting as a banker,

not as a farmer,

where some guys that were looking
to build new chicken barns

were meeting with some
equipment providers,

some companies that were
wanting to sell them equipment.

And so they invited me to come

and I went hoping to loan
some money to these farmers.

That was my only intent.

And so I went to this
meeting and, you know,

was just sitting there
with my customers visiting,

not really thinking much about,

you know, what was being presented.

And it was my first exposure
to an aviary nesting system,

and it really piqued my interest.

The benefits of that as far
as the efficiencies of it,

the air quality in the barns,

not only for the birds
themselves, for their health,

but also, you know, if we build a barn,

I want my family to be,

you know, working in a nice environment.

So air quality was top priority
for us on that side of it.

And then also with the aviary systems,

the litter is removed
on a daily basis, so.

We could go in there and get
the fertilizer for our farm

365 days a year whenever we need it

instead of waiting between flocks,

which most of the barns in our area,

they clean out the barn after each flock

and that's when you can
get your litter, so.

All those things combined
really piqued my interest, so.

I left that meeting hungry to
learn more, I guess you'd say.

- [Greg] It got the gears turning.

- It did, so, for the next better,

probably better portion of a year,

I'm kind of embarrassed
to say how many hours

that my wife and I researched.

We traveled.

Even took a couple of
flights to go visit barns,

to visit with people

that have put in the style of nesting too.

We probably visited somewhere
between 40 and 50 barns

and just chatted with the farmers and say,

hey, if you were gonna do this again,

you know, what would you do different?

Or what would you definitely not change?

What did you love?

And we left every meeting
with all those farmers

and all those companies with notes

and we would take those notes back home

and we would just study 'em,

and watch hundreds of
YouTube videos on how

every company's equipment
works a little bit different

and what is better with one

and what's not so good with another.

So long story short,

after, you know, almost
a year of doing that,

we knew we were in.

We were ready to pull the trigger.

So then it was a matter of
getting everyone lined up

to build this facility
'cause it wasn't one that,

there wasn't guys out there
doing turnkey projects

that would've fit what I was doing.

- That's really interesting.

I just got this image in my head of,

well, you're sitting in that meeting

and you've got, you know,
you're just there to listen,

and must've been a good
salesman in that room

because you're like,

yeah, actually, I oughta
buy one of these things.

So you've got this, like,

man, this could be the
missing puzzle piece.

And you go on the road here.

One thing you've emphasized is

when you were talking to these farms,

you always wanted to know,
hey, where can this go wrong?

Can you talk some to that?

- Yeah.

So kind of going back to my banking years,

whenever I was talking to
one of my customers there

that was thinking about
starting a business or whatever,

I would always tell them,
don't tell me the good parts.

I'll figure those out.

Tell me the downside.

Let's talk about that.

If something goes wrong,

you know, how are we gonna navigate that?

Whenever it came to equipments or barns,

I didn't wanna know, you know.

I did wanna know what worked well,

but I was more focused on, you
know, the guy that would say,

hey, you know,

I would've made this area of
my barn a little bit different

and these are the reasons why.

That was very helpful for us too,

'cause, you know, this
is the biggest investment

that I had ever made in
my life building these.

We have two 50,000 bird,
free-range organic barns.

So those are the biggest investment

that I'd ever made in my life financially.

And you do it one time.

It's not like you can build it and say,

oops, I want a do-over.

That's not gonna happen.

So we did our best to
build it the right way.

The research and development
part of it was fun.

I loved every second of it.

Stayed up 'til midnight, a lot of nights,

reading and things like
that, but it was very fun.

I enjoyed it.

Now the construction side of it.

So we had to GC the project ourselves.

There was no turnkey guy out there

that had ever built a barn like we wanted.

So the actual blueprint
I came up with myself

and we pieced together all the equipment,

the concrete guys, the builders,

the installers, the
conveyors, the electricians.

And that was taxing too,

because you have to deal with the timing

because all these individual
companies have a schedule,

but you had to time it to where everyone

showed up in succession
and everything was timed

and the construction guys had
to frame everything perfectly

so the ventilation would fit,

and the ventilation needed the
electrician to run everything

to make everything work in the end.

I'd never been through that myself.

We've never built a house
or anything like that, so.

The construction part of
it was very stressful.

- So what led you to
having something different

than your neighbors?

Was it all the research
you did ultimately,

or was it your preferences?

- The efficiency in the barn.

That is why we did things
a little bit different.

We wanted to utilize
technology as much as we could,

you know.

If we're not on the barn site,

we can basically see everything
on our phones or our iPad.

We can change things, you know, remotely.

In our egg room, we utilized
a packer and a stacker

and a palletizer to pack the eggs, so.

Basically when it comes down to it,

it puts 900 dozen eggs on a pallet,

basically without a human touching them.

And it does it very efficiently
as far as our labor cost,

but also time-wise, it's very quick.

So that was with having
two barns and the cattle

and what we already had,

efficiency as far as
time-wise was important to us.

So we did spend a little more money

to invest in those things.

In the end, we felt like

it was gonna pay us back in efficiencies.

- And then what about, like,

your banking background
at this point in it?

Do you think that played a role

in how you though through this, uh-huh?

- Whenever it came to, you know,

trying to decide which
birds we wanted to have,

whether we wanted to go
pasture or free-range,

the numbers nerd inside of
me came out during that time.

And, you know, that
part of it, I had been,

you know, thinking, hey, if
I built one of these one day,

you know, what direction
would I go in that?

So that was something that,

you know, I thought about for a long time.

That wasn't something that
we decided last minute, so.

Yeah, my nerdy banking brain

had been working on that for a long time.

- Okay.

So your experience already gave you

a pretty clear picture on that end.

- Right.

- So, like, I mean, you're
doing all this research

on how to kind of build
the optimal facility.

Did you already have worked out

where your eggs were gonna go?

- Yeah, for sure, yeah.

We weren't gonna jump into building,

you know, a facility without,

you know, having means
to repay it, you know,

and to make it efficient on
the financial end of it, so.

Yeah, we had a contract
before we broke ground

with our egg company,
so, that was established,

or basically the first
thing we established

and then moved on from there

after we were confident with that.

- You know, and then you
ultimately, I guess you said

you ended up deciding also
to go free-range organic,

and that came from your banking days.

You knew that was a good avenue for you.

- Right.

We initially thought we
were gonna go pasture.

And we actually had our
excavation company come out

and shoot an area to see if it would work.

But what it came down to,

so the name of our ranch
is Thomas Creek Ranch.

And that is because Thomas Creek,

which is a decent sized waterway,

runs about a mile through our farm.

Even though that's one
of our favorite parts

about our ranch,

whenever it came to the pasture
side of the chicken barn,

it kind of threw a wrench into that

because it's so big you
can't fence across it.

And so it eliminated a
large portion of our farm

as a potential location
for a pasture raised-barn

because we couldn't fit enough acres

around the barn without that
creek interrupting that area.

- That's interesting.

So you've got your eggs lined up,

you did your research, you
know what you wanna build.

And then it sounds like
the construction itself

was more difficult than
what you had in mind.

And part of it is that you
were doing something different.

- Yeah, and keep in mind,

at the beginning of the construction,

I was still working at the bank

and trying to navigate all that,

and trying to take care of our cattle.

And yeah, that was,

I wouldn't wanna go
back to that time period

'cause that was very stressful.

- And then on top of it,

I understand you had visitors there.

- Yes, yeah, that was
kind of overwhelming, so.

Because our barn was unique for our area,

we just literally, you're
gonna think I'm exaggerating,

but we had between 10 and
20 people that we don't know

randomly pull into our
barn during construction

and wanna walk through.

And so it was a lot of
fun, I do have to say.

We got to meet so many good people.

I think at last count,

there was people from
eight different states

that swung in there to see it.

And I still have those
connections today, so,

you know, I wouldn't
trade it for the world,

but wow, it was just nonstop.

We ended up having to put
security cameras on the entrance

so that if we weren't there,

we knew if someone pulled in.

Yeah, it was quite the experience.

- Were these skeptics or
just curious people or?

- The majority of them were people

that had tossed around the
idea of building a chicken barn

and somehow they had heard
that we were building something

that might be a little bit
different than the norm.

And so they just wanted
to visually see it.

I don't know how many of those ended up

building the barn like ours.

And then, you know, some
of 'em were probably just,

you know, curious and wanted
to see what was going in, so.

But I do know that there's several barns

that have our blueprint floor plan

that are in operation now.

I don't remember the last
count, but there's several, so.

For Dena and I, that's kinda cool.

- Yeah, for sure.

- That we kinda got something started.

- Did anyone, I mean, was anyone
looking at this and saying,

oh, this will never work
or any aspect of it?

(both laughing)

- Oh, I'm sure, but they
probably didn't tell me.

- Was there a moment
that you ever had a doubt

during this period of, like,

what am I getting myself
into or anything like that?

- Just during the construction, I'm like,

is this gonna work, you know.

- Uh-huh.

- Whenever a certain construction crew

would have a delay, you
know, on another project

and then have to push us back,

and then I had to push the next guy back

'cause they all have to fall in the line.

Yes, during that time it was like,

oh, my, is this gonna work?

- Mm-hmm.

- But it did, so you
had to have faith, yeah.

- That's great.

And then when did you quit your bank job?

Was it, like, the day
construction was over?

- It was a couple months in
the construction, yeah, yeah.

It was just too much, so.

I had to be there

because it was such an
important project, you know.

For us, for our family, it
was a life-changing project.

And it was too important
not to be there, you know,

with boots on the ground
to make sure everyone's,

you know, answer their questions,

or get 'em what they need, or, you know.

There was several days,

you know, a crew would come
and maybe they were short,

whatever material they might be short.

And my wife and I would
just have to make a run

and go get something,
so, we had to be there.

It wouldn't have worked
without us being there on-site.

(swooshing)

- Okay, so you had it all basically ready

well before the birds were coming,

and then when the birds placed,
it was now you're a farmer.

- We built our barns basically in unison.

You know, when a crew would
get done with one barn,

they would drive down the road

and do the same thing to the other one.

And they were mirror
images of each other, so.

They basically went up simultaneously.

And so we were finished with construction.

Everything had been tested
and was ready to roll.

The ventilation and the nesting companies,

they wanted to have an open house.

And so they organized
that and I don't remember,

we lost track of how
many people were there.

It was over a thousand people showed up.

It was kind of a neat
deal, so we had that.

Once everyone left for that, we cleaned up

and we just waited on our birds.

And ever since then, we've
just got to live our dream.

- That's great.

How long ago was that?

- We got our birds in April of last year.

- Okay, cool.

- So we're just finishing
up our first flock.

- Yeah, no, that seems
like a major experience.

Like, I almost feel like every,
you know, population date

should be celebrated like that.

Yeah, a thousand people that's neat.

So then, well, then I guess
now that you have that running,

you know, I think you
touched on this a little,

but what's a day in the
life now that you've got,

I guess you've got the eggs running

and plus your other
farming operations as well?

- Sure, yeah, yeah.

So we always start off our
day by going to the barns,

you know, walk through the birds,

make sure they're all doing well,

and start packing the eggs.

I tell people the good thing
about the layer industry is

they lay eggs seven days a week.

So you get income seven days a week.

The bad thing about it is
they lay seven days a week

and you have to be there
seven days a week, so.

For a while, my wife and I
just did it on our own, so,

you know, we didn't leave.

We wanted to make sure this first flock

got off on a good foot.

And so we were there all the time.

After, you know, about a month,

we had a local individual
contact us and say,

hey, if you ever would
like some help in the barn

to give you a day off or something,

we would be interested in
that and we lucked out.

That person's still with
us today, so, you know.

Either them or us starts packing the eggs

about eight o'clock in the morning.

It takes about two hours per barn

to pack the eggs in the mornings.

And then normally our normal
day would be after doing that,

we go grab some lunch

and then whatever needs
to be done on the farm,

whether it's, you know,

moving cattle around and checking cattle,

working cattle, baling
hay, repairing equipment,

you know, that's what we would
do in the middle of the day.

And then always finish our day

by checking in with the barns again.

But that's kind of a
day in the life for us.

- You know, is the
diversification of things,

would you say that's a part of, you know,

being able to make it work
from a farming perspective?

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- Well, any business, I
think if you can diversify,

it's gonna help you get through the,

you know, the economics
of the business world.

And so, you know, if one thing, you know,

right now, cattle, the beef
cattle market's really good, so.

That side of it's going really well

and, you know, who knows
what the future holds?

And we went through times in the past

where the cattle market's been down

and we might have a drought and
our hay market just explodes

'cause people, you know, are
running short on hay, so.

All of those working hand in hand,

it really kinda helps us
maybe be a little more stable

as far as a steady income.

- And then you already mentioned how,

I guess the manure from your egg operation

can feed your other operations too.

- Yeah, that's been really nice, yeah, so.

- Yeah.

- We got some of that put on last fall

and it's working very nicely.

- Part of it, I think,

it sounds like you manage
your time really well.

You know, you work hard,
you have that all laid out.

I guess, what do you think

are some of the keys to
making it all work, you know,

from the family and farming side?

- Sure.

Well, I was forced to
become a better time manager

whenever I was working in
the business world, you know.

I had an office job trying
to take care of the farm.

And like I said, my family
is number one to me, so.

I'm always being there

and not trying not to
miss anything with them.

Yeah, you just have to manage time

and have a lot of
jam-packed full days, so.

After dealing with that for 25 years,

our schedule now, it kind
of seems like a cakewalk

because we have a lot more
freedom with the farm itself

because, you know, whenever
I worked at the bank,

you had to be there
certain hours of the day.

And I have to be on the farm
to take care of the farm

for a certain amount of hours per day,

but it's a little more flexible.

So if I need to run up to
school to watch my, you know,

my daughter's, you know, concert
or whatever, I can do that.

And then I can just work an
extra, you know, hour or two

at the end of the day at
the farm to make up for it.

So that flexibility has been
a really blessing for us.

- Yeah.

Maybe that's the part
that might be surprising

for a lot of people because
when they think of farming,

you know, you hear seven-day-a-week job,

and tied to your job,

and those kind of things, but
you don't see it that way.

- No, and one thing my customers,

whenever I worked at the
bank, they'd come in my office

and they would just be like,
why do you keep farming?

That's all you do is you
work here at the bank

and then you go home and you
work until dark on the farm.

And my answer to that was always,

you know, some people have hobbies.

They might golf or they
might like to go fishing.

My hobby is farming.

It doesn't feel like a job to me.

I love every second of it.

I can work a 14-hour day out on the farm

and come home feeling great

because you get to see
that accomplishment.

You get to see what...

You can look back on your day and say,

you know, look what I accomplished.

And so that's fulfilling.

And I get up every day now

and don't even feel
like I'm going to work.

I just feel like I'm going to do my hobby,

you know, what I love to do, so.

That's just a huge blessing to us,

and I wouldn't trade it
for anything in the world.

- I mean, it sounds like,
you know, your whole vision,

you know, ultimately was
about this picture of a life

and a family you can build.

And it sounds like it's working, you know,

including for the kids.

And, you know, you've talked
about how much they've learned

and just observed being around the farm.

- Yeah, yeah, that's big.

I learned, you know, what
work ethic I do have from my,

you know, from growing up on a farm,

from my dad and my grandpa.

And so being able to continue that

is something I didn't know
if I'd ever accomplish,

but, thankfully, we're kind of there

and I'm able to pass that on, so.

Hopefully, they gain some
life experiences in life

benefit them in whatever path they choose

whenever they get older.

But yeah, we've focused on the three Fs,

faith, family and farm, so.

Right now we're able to
combine all three of those

into our daily life,
so, you can't beat that.

- Yeah, no, that's great.

Well, one thing that
stood out to me before is

you mentioned you got your
son, I guess your youngest,

just on your lap on the tractor

in the middle of the day when, you know,

you'd normally be in the office.

- Yeah, yeah.

We recently bought a different tractor.

One of his first questions
was, does it have a buddy seat?

'Cause he definitely wanted
to ride in there with me,

so that's pretty cool.

- Mm-hmm, that's great.

Well, I've got one last
question for you then, Travis.

How do you prefer your eggs?

(both laughing)

- I'm gonna have to go with scrambled.

And digging a little deeper into that,

my wife, she makes scrambled eggs

with a little bit of
cottage cheese mixed in.

- Ooh.

- And don't knock it until
you try it, it's phenomenal.

- I have not tried that.
- You have to try it.

- Huh, does it melt or is it like visible?

- It's not visible, it's not.

You wouldn't even know it was in there.

- Okay, dang.

- It's delicious.

- That's good to know.

(swooshing)

Travis, I really appreciate
you making the drive

and sharing your story with us today.

It's a really, really cool story.

- Well, thank you.

Thanks for having me.

This was a cool experience,
and when we met you at PEAK,

you know, you had mentioned this,

and we didn't know if it
would really come to fruition,

but it has, and it's something,
another thing on the list

that I never though would happen, so.

It's just a cool experience,

and I'm grateful for the
opportunity to come visit with you.

(swooshing)

- That was Travis Bybee

sharing his incredible
journey from bank to farm

and really having the courage
to do so in his own way.

And because he was willing
to blaze that path,

he's made it easier for others
to follow in his footsteps

and set an incredible
example for his kids.

Thanks so much to all
of you for tuning in.

It was fun to mix it up a
bit and incorporate video.

It's something we'll
wanna do more and more

as we move forward.

So if you've already added us
on Spotify or Apple Podcasts,

go ahead and subscribe
to us on YouTube as well.

Once again, I'm Greg Schonefeld,
and we'll talk to you soon.

(cheerful music)

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