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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Willhaus. So as one of the perks of this job, you know, being a host of a show and doing this is that I get to speak to people that are my personal heroes. And today, my guest is one of those people, and I'm sure you've heard of him. It's g Edward Griffin.
Seth Holehouse:So he's the person that wrote the creature from Jekyll Island. He's also wrote a lot of other books. If you perhaps have seen the very famous interview with Yuri Besmanov warning about the communist overthrow of America, that was mister Edward Griffin that was interviewing him. And today, we're gonna be talking about what I think is probably the most important thing that we could be talking about, and it is the looming collapse of the global financial system. But we're gonna be talking about it through the perspective of the Federal Reserve, through the perspective of what is the next goal?
Seth Holehouse:What is how does Central Bank Digital Currency fit into this? So, you know, he will go in at first and give a little background, which I think is very fascinating of what led to him writing the book that I think changed the perspectives of millions and millions of people around the world. It woke a lot of people up, the creature from Jekyll Island. We're talking about that, and then laying the foundation for getting into a discussion of where is this creature right now? What's happening with the Federal Reserve?
Seth Holehouse:What comes next? Where is the global financial system at right now? Because we're seeing that they're just printing and printing and printing. When does it stop? So he's gonna give some really, really solid information about where he sees we're at right now in this timeline, but also what comes next and how we can prepare to not just survive this fight, but to win the fight.
Seth Holehouse:So folks, please enjoy this interview with the legendary g Edward Griffin. Mister g Edward Griffin, it is such an honor to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. Thank you for inviting me. It's always a pleasure.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. So while you're a man of many, many different areas of wisdom, everything from the communism, the threat of communism to cancer, the medical industrial complex, the one of the the main ways that I came across your work was the book, which I'll pull up here for folks. The creature from Jekyll Island, which was my first interaction with really understanding the Federal Reserve. And I think that myself, like a lot of Americans, I always looked down at our dollar bills and thought, oh, this is from the government. It's federal.
Seth Holehouse:It's a Federal Reserve. It's the the government, you know, prints this money, and it gives it to us to use, and that's part of its roles of government. But to understand that the Federal Reserve was not, in fact, a government organization. It's about as federal as Federal Express as I've I've heard many people say was mind blowing to me. And so in today's discussion, I'd like to talk a little bit about the Federal Reserve and your perspective on it, but then get into its role in today's world and the inflation, the the fact that we've been printing trillions and trillions of dollars in the last couple of years, and where you think that's headed.
Seth Holehouse:So I guess I'll just hand it over to you and and lead with the first question of, can you just give this basic explanation for people of what the Federal Reserve actually is and whose money it is? What's what's behind this?
Speaker 2:Yes. Well, that's undoubtedly the the correct place to begin because you're you're quite right. Everybody, including myself in the beginning, had a totally erroneous view of what the Federal Reserve was. I, I was very young at the time. I was just divesting myself from my corporate job.
Speaker 2:I was, prior to that, trying to climb the corporate ladder and trying to make myself part of the system and be successful. Like most young people, I have no idea about history. I came to the public school system. I hated books because they had it took too long to get to the meat of the matter. I was in a hurry and so forth.
Speaker 2:I was trying to I finally came to a realization that the world was not at all anything that I thought it was. Especially the more important the issue, the more likely it was, the more certain it was that it was probably presented to me as deceit. I had a false impression about it. And once I discovered that first, when that first crack appeared in the egg, of course, the next crack was much easier. And the first thing I know, I was in a cascade of finding more cracks in the egg, and I found out the egg was pretty rotten on the inside.
Speaker 2:And, so, I decided to divest myself of this corporate mythology that I was pursuing, and even that was something that I didn't realize what it was at the time. It was sort of a trap. And had I stayed with it as a young guy trying to climb that ladder, I probably would be dead long ago. I, I worked for a large insurance company, and my job was to, install group insurance programs for corporations. So, I was dealing with corporate executives for the most part, and we'd have to take these chaps out for lunch and buy them a martini or so, and it was I thought it was a cool lifestyle because you get to go to expensive restaurants and charge it off to the company and all that sort of thing and meet some interesting and powerful people.
Speaker 2:But I look back on it now, and everybody else in that whole operation was an alcoholic, and I could say I was pretty much on the way to it. So anyway, that's a little background. I couldn't help but think about it as I started unbox all of these memories. So I decided finally I would break out of that and go and become a crusader. My crusader gene started to vibrate.
Speaker 2:So, at that time, I really didn't know what I was going to do. I wasn't trained to do much of anything in this field because I was just beginning to learn about things. I thought, well, I went to school at the University of Michigan, and even prior to that, I was in the entertainment field. I worked for one of the first big television companies broadcasting stations, WWJ TV in Detroit. And prior to that, was if you want to go back further, was a snotty little child actor.
Speaker 2:And so, that was my background. Thought, Well, okay, now I'm in the real world, and what can I do? Well, I'm learning about all these red pills that we call them now. At the time, that word wasn't in our vocabulary. So, I thought, Well, I can produce maybe some very low budget documentary films.
Speaker 2:I had some training in communications and filmmaking and television and so forth. So I said, I'll do that. And that's how I started. In those days, I couldn't afford a real 16 millimeter camera or setup and everything to do it like we do it today so easily and so cheaply. So, in those days, we had what was called film strips.
Speaker 2:It was a series of 35 millimeter pictures, and it would go up on the screen, and the operator at the projector is sitting there with his hand on the knob, and the soundtrack is usually playing on a like a disc, an old fashioned disc. And there's a good beep, and that's the sign to advance the film to the next screen. Sorry about the phone in the background. I would just let it go, I guess. So anyway, so I decided to do a film or film strip on inflation.
Speaker 2:I didn't know much about inflation except it was bad. And I didn't know really what caused it. And I had not much information about the Federal Reserve System. But I thought it might have something to do with that. So I decided I was going to do a film on inflation.
Speaker 2:Well, a good and somewhat bad choice. It was good because it launched me in a direction that I have benefited from tremendously. And I think and when I say benefited, I mean I have great satisfaction in knowing that I have benefited a lot of other people to understand a very important aspect of our daily lives. And that makes me feel very good. But I really didn't have much knowledge at the time.
Speaker 2:So, when I got into it, of course, when I started to go to the library internet was not in existence, so you had to do all your research in the library. And I started looking around in the bookshelves, and I found out that there's something called the Federal Reserve System. I'd heard about it. And it had to do with money supply, and supply and demand, and quantities, and balances, and all these things. And so I started reading books, and collecting books, and reading magazine articles, and listening to sound recordings and all these things.
Speaker 2:And I got overwhelmed. I thought, Holy moly, this is way too complicated for little old me. Why don't I do something that's more my size? So, I kind of abandoned it. I thought this would be a lifetime project to get me up to speed so that I could even pretend to produce a film on on it.
Speaker 2:So, I collected a couple of banker boxes full of books and reports and things, and I put it in the back of my closet. And, I don't know, maybe this is too much of the detail, but I'm sort of stream of conscious now talking about how it happen. Anyway, to make a long a very long story short, I had occasion I was being called to give some speeches later on because I was that's one thing I could do. I learned how to do that in school. So I was giving little presentations before Kiwanis clubs and PTA meetings and so forth, like that.
Speaker 2:And I had occasion to speak before a group in Pasadena once, and they wanted me to talk on taxes. So I decided I would talk on the hidden tax, which of course is inflation. By this time I had a pretty good idea that that was a tax and that the loss of purchasing power that the average consumer experienced wasn't just lost into the dirt or into the clouds, it went somewhere. Our lost purchasing power went to somebody, and I found out it went to the banks and to the bankers and to their partners in the government. It went to the politicians, went to the government and to the banking cartel.
Speaker 2:And, so I gave a speech on that, and it was very well received, and I'll try and wrap this up now. So, I went on the road with that speech and gave a for about a year and a half or two years almost, I talked to groups everywhere I could on a I gave a one day seminar called The Crash Course on Money, and it was very well received. And then one day, a little lady at the end of one of my speeches came up to me, she said, well, Mr. Griffin, my husband passed away recently, and you have just I have a small inheritance, but I want to I don't want to waste it, and I don't know what to do with it in view of what you just said. Should I should I get out of debt?
Speaker 2:I was thinking about borrowing money so I could buy an apartment building, small one, and have an income. But maybe you've suggested that being in debt is a bad idea. And what about gold and silver? Should I invest in that? And I realized during that brief conversation that I was pretty much a fraud because I had offered myself as an expert.
Speaker 2:Well, I was a semi expert by this time on the banking fraud and how money was created and how it affected inflation. But this lady's question was beyond me. I had no idea how to answer her question. I had no idea about the real world of investments, what's good and what's bad. So I stopped putting on the seminars, and I enrolled in what's called the College for Financial Planning.
Speaker 2:It was sort of like a CPA course except for financial planners. So I went through that, I got my CPA, CPF designation, and not because I wanted to become a financial planner, but because I wanted to understand the real markets. So I came out of that process, I graduated, I got my diploma on the wall someplace, and not here, some maybe it's in the drawer, but I'm a big financial planner, but not really. But anyway, graduated from the course. The reason I mentioned is because when I came out of that, I was shocked.
Speaker 2:I realized that everything that they were teaching financial planners was based on a shallow or wrong understanding of the money supply. And if you believed what they were teaching me or trying to teach me, you could not give good financial advice to anybody. You might give financial advice that's profitable to you, the advisor, because you get commissions on all of these investments that you make, most of them. Sometimes there are non commission arrangements, but most of them are commissionable. And that's why everybody wants to be a financial planner, because they can make money, and according to them, they make money while they're helping their client make money.
Speaker 2:Turns out that the client makes money only in times of expansion, but the client loses money in times of compression of the money supply. They never think about or never talk about that thing. So it was a bad model, and I thought somebody ought to write a book about this. All right, that finally leads me to your question, which is how did I get involved in all this? So I decided I will write the book.
Speaker 2:And that was another unfortunate, bad, unfortunate decision because I still wasn't qualified to write a book on money and banking. I was learning about it every step of the way, becoming more indignant, more horrified, and more resolved that somebody's gotta tackle this monster, this federal reserve system, and because it's destroying America. And, so I started to write.
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Speaker 2:Now I was in the beginning of a seven year project to get all this written down, and it was still way beyond me. In fact, I don't know how I ever got through it. I mean, I was the last person in the world to write such a book. But, I stopped a couple of points during that process. I said, This is too much for me.
Speaker 2:I've got these boxes full of information. I'll never get it all into a book. Well, as it turned out, it still filled up 600 pages. But at that point, I realized I was only about halfway through the story. And I thought, well, I guess if anybody's reading this book, if they ever read this bloody book, if they don't get the message by now, another 600 pages is not going to do it.
Speaker 2:So I decided to just stop it there. And so the most recent history of the Fed is not well, I added some of it later, but the really heavy, heavy load of the history, the background, and so forth sort of stops before World War I I mean, before World War II, goes through World War I. And of course, that's enough. You get the picture real clear. World War I was completely a war of the bankers, and I didn't know that before.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I published the book. And to my amazement, people wanted to read it. And all of a sudden, guys like you, well, let's have you have me on their program. And they're asking me questions, and then people think I know everything. Well, I know of some things, I know a lot of things, enough to bluff my way through the issue of banking and currency, because that's just a part of the whole story.
Speaker 2:But now people want to know what's going on in the real world, and what should we be doing now? And again, I'm coming to the position where I say, well, you know, I'm not really sure, but I do have some fundamentals behind me now. So I understand that you want to talk about what should we do in the future. And I feel like I'm talking to that little old lady that's saying, Mr. Griffin, what's my investment supposed to be?
Speaker 2:I feel inadequate in dealing with the that question, but I do have some opinions. And so, if you're interested in my opinions, I'm ready to go.
Seth Holehouse:I I would love to hear your opinions, especially just your assessment of where this system is at right now. Like, can the money printing continue indefinitely? What happens? You know, this so I'll just I'll hand it back over to you.
Speaker 2:Sure. That's that's really a critical question for today. You can skip a lot of history if you can understand what has evolved in a sort of short understanding. You don't have to know the details to get the picture of where we are today and the precipice at which we are now standing. So let me try and cover that as best I can.
Speaker 2:The banking system, as I saw it, evolved. First of all, the Federal Reserve was put together in 1913. It was passed into law. The propaganda for building it started in 1910. And so that was really the beginning of central banking in America, but it had already existed in Europe.
Speaker 2:And actually, the Federal Reserve was pretty closely modeled after the Bank of England. And one of the most interesting parts of my research is that when the people who created the Federal Reserve, the bankers who created it, they went to Jekyll Island, which is the reason for the title of my book. Jekyll Island is a real island. It's off the coast of Georgia. And in those days, it was owned by the most wealthy bankers and industrialists in The United States.
Speaker 2:It was a resort island. They have a beautiful clubhouse there. It's still there. And people can go and have a nice dinner there. I've been there a couple of times, I've slept in the hotel there, very elegant for the era and all that.
Speaker 2:And so they went there because they wanted to create the Federal Reserve in secret so that nobody would know what they were doing because this was going to be a bill that was going to be offered to the American people as a way of controlling the big bad bankers. Americans were concerned way back in 1900s, early 1900s, about the problems in the banking industry, the fact that people were losing their investments. Banks were going belly up, were going bankrupt. They promised people that they would guard their money with all intensity that they could, but they were very careless with what they did with other people's money. They lied to investors, they said, we'll make this a demand deposit.
Speaker 2:It's your money, they said. Anytime you want, you can come in and demand it, and we've got it, we'll give it back to you. We're just guarding it, that's all we're doing. But they lied because they weren't just guarding it. They were turning it around, and they were investing it and keeping the interest on themselves, but worse than that, they were multiplying it.
Speaker 2:If you gave them a thousand dollars, they would then turn around and loan $9,000 based on $1,000 that they had, ratio of about nine to one at a 10 times expansion of the money supply. Every time you gave them a dollar, they could loan $9 at interest. And the money was created out of nothing. And if you can run a business where you can collect interest on nothing, that's a pretty good business. Now, you're beginning to understand the banking business with you, understand this thing called fractional reserve banking.
Speaker 2:It's accepted everywhere in the world. They teach it in schools as being the proper banking system. That's, well, how we do it. And they don't tell the students that it's complete fraud, that it's, that it's plunder, legalized plunder of the American people. And hence we have this idea of a hidden tax.
Speaker 2:So anyway, so I anyway, I was in I had to write this book, and I don't know where I left it off, but I just try and run it to the edge to where where we are today. It started off that way, And their primary interest, as I saw it in the very beginning, was just how to fleece the public, how to make as much money as possible with no risk. Because with the passage of the Federal Reserve System, they passed along the risk to the taxpayers. They made everybody think it was government money, and if the banks were going bad, if they made bad loans, or there was theft inside the bank and money was disappearing and the bank's books started to look bad, well, then they would go to Congress, and they'd say, Well, these banks are too big to fail. If they fail, well, the country will be in terrible, terrible condition.
Speaker 2:So it's our patriotic duty to keep these banks solvent. So every time the bank would get in trouble, the taxpayer would be called upon to pay the penalty and refund the money to the banks, which they lost because they were very careless in their loan systems, and they were playing this game of fractional reserve banking, where occasionally the people were silly enough to want their money back. And when they couldn't pay them all, anything over about 3% to five percent, all of a sudden they realized that their war chest or that their money chest was empty? That's all they could do, and the banks would go belly up, people would lose their life savings, and so that was the whole hue and cry. They wanted to do something to control these big, bad bankers.
Speaker 2:And so that was the purpose of the Federal Reserve Act, was to control these big bad bankers. It was messing up everybody's financial lives. And so they had to do this in secret. They didn't want anybody to know that the bill supposedly to control the big bad bankers was being drafted by the big bad bankers themselves. Hence, they had to be secret.
Speaker 2:That's why Jackal Island comes into the picture. And so that was what caught my attention. I thought, you know, if they if you do something in secret and you really are serious about it, it's probably because you have something to hide. And I wanted to know what was it they were trying to hide. And that was what really got me deeply into this.
Speaker 2:So I don't know now let me flash forward, on the basis of your question. That's how we started. It was a question of making horrendous amounts obscene amounts of money out of nothing, creating loans, and they didn't have money to loan. They would just create it, and people said, Oh, there's the money. I can see it, or It's on my checking account.
Speaker 2:They had no idea about how money comes into being as a bookkeeping entry. And so they were willing to pay interest on nothing because they thought it was somebody's real money that they worked hard to earn. They said, well, you know, they're loaning me their hard earned money. They deserve an interest. But if they had known that they weren't boning them anything at all, they were just creating numbers in a computer someplace, and that's what you were paying interest on, there would have been a rebellion.
Speaker 2:But of course, they had to keep it all in secret. So that's how it started. It was a money making plundering machine. But since that time, now let's get move over through the World War I, World War II, bring it up to our present World War III that we're now in. It's a totally different kind of war, but definitely a world war.
Speaker 2:And, we find out that the the goal is far more than just making money. They've already got their hands on almost all of the money in the world anyway. Assets that that these people at the very top own are embarrassingly high percentage of all the assets in the world. And it's all concentrated now in the hands of relatively few numbers of banks and investment houses that may not actually own all the investments totally, but they own the controlling interest, and so they have the voting rights to them. And that's almost as good.
Speaker 2:So anyway, that's where we are now. And along with that, this tremendous monopoly over the money supply in every nation of the world. Not the Federal Reserve has got its friends and relatives in every nation in the world. They all have their central banks, and they play the same game, and they work together. They're kind of an international fraternity, and they meet quite regularly at the Bank of International Settlements, which is in Basel, Switzerland.
Speaker 2:You don't hear much about that, but that's really the heartbeat of this whole international banking fraternity. And it has changed. Now we get to the question, how has it changed? It's no longer just money. In order to understand how it's changed, you have to be a little bit philosophical and think about the question, what is this thing called money and power?
Speaker 2:We're always talking about what motivates people. Well, it's money and power. And it's true. That's true. Nobody really can challenge that.
Speaker 2:I suppose there are other motivations, but when you look at the world as a whole, that money and power seems to be the dominant one. There are people that have altruistic views. They have religious views. They have personal things, personal things that are very important to them. But on a global scale, it's money and power that moves nations and changes history.
Speaker 2:And so what is money and power? Well, it's not money and power. It's power. The reason money is in the equation is because money is power. So we're really talking about power when we say money and power.
Speaker 2:Money is perhaps the most visible form and the most fluid and the most useful form of power. If you've got a lot of money, you can hire a lot of people to perform services and provide goods for you. So money is merely a measurement of your access to the goods and services from other people. If you have an endless amount of money, you have almost an endless number of people that you can buy. And especially if it doesn't cost you anything to create the money, you can just create it and buy somebody.
Speaker 2:And that's how the world has evolved. That now, it's no longer just money because they've already got the money, the dominant part of it. It's power. It's raw power. That means they can now get rid of money.
Speaker 2:An interesting thought. And that is what is now going on. The transition that we're now going through is invisible to most people, but to me it's very visible. And to a lot of other very astute researchers, it's visible. Money is being changed from what it was before throughout history.
Speaker 2:The main element that is being changed is that who owns it. It's always been if you had money, you owned it. It was your money. You could do with it whatever you wanted to. Now they might try and take it from you by stealing it from you or from taxing you or cheating you that was sort of stealing it.
Speaker 2:But it's your money, nevertheless. And you can put it in your mattress or in a coffee can, or you can do whatever you want to with it. And if you have acquired some money and you were frugal and you save a little bit of it, it gives you independence. You have your money to go back on. If you have no money, you can't go back on anything.
Speaker 2:If money is actually gone as we know it, now you are dependent on something else to get goods and services that you need to survive. What would that be if it's not money? Well, the answer is it's called money, but it's not money in the traditional sense that you own it. It's yours. What's going on now is a transition a very rapid one, might add from the old style of money that's yours to money in the bank that is theirs.
Speaker 2:And you are not entitled to it at all, except to the extent that they will allow you to use their money. Now, this is a profound change because, well, you can't have any savings. It's impossible to have savings. And the money is not tangible. It's not paper.
Speaker 2:It's not coin. It's digital. So you can't hide it. You can't stick it in your pocket. You can't even sit on the curb and put out a tin cup and ask for people to donate to you because you're hungry, because they have nothing to put in the tin cup.
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey.
Seth Holehouse:Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
Seth Holehouse:So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No.
Seth Holehouse:It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins.
Seth Holehouse:So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home?
Seth Holehouse:No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
Seth Holehouse:It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver, because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
Seth Holehouse:It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
Seth Holehouse:So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero.
Speaker 2:Money is gone. It's all digital now. Now it's true we have digital money today, but you can convert it into paper bills and coin and bullion and so forth and have purchasing power outside of the dollars or the ends or whatever the national currencies are. But what the transition is now that they're going through, this is part of the great reset that Klaus Schwab is talking about and others, is not going to be that at all. It's digital, but it's not yours.
Speaker 2:You can't convert it into anything else because everything else is illegal. You are not allowed to use anything other than this central bank digital currencies. That's what they're talking about. Now these CBDCs, if you hear that phrase, slow down. This is what they're talking about.
Speaker 2:It kind of sounds like, oh, this is going be good. It could be very convenient. And it's wonderful. Won't you sign up? Yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll give you we'll give you a couple hundred of them free just for signing up. And you can buy anything in the world. You don't have to worry about converting one currency into another one. It's all one currency. It'll be wonderful, and people are going, hooray, hooray at last.
Speaker 2:Now if they can cause the economic system to collapse so that the remnants of the old system, this is now coming to an end anyway because they've tweaked it so much it's going to fall apart, they know it's going to fall apart. So what we see now is they're deliberately trying to blow it up. They want it to crash. Previously, they wanted to keep it going as long as possible, to kick the can down the road so they can continue the plundering game that they've used over decades and centuries. But now, they're deliberately trying to blow it up.
Speaker 2:They're creating money out of nothing at such a rate today that it's any child any grade school kid, I think, knew anything about how to add figures and subtract figures could see that this system is not practical. It's got to blow up. And when I say blow up, I mean it's got to the purchasing power of the individual units got to plummet so far that it would be essentially zero. And American dollars would be no different than Zimbabwe dollars and so forth. We've all we've all seen pictures of people going to the store with a wheelbarrow full of Zimbabwe dollars to buy groceries for the week or the day.
Speaker 2:And I even in my collection, I think I've got a a couple of Zimbabwe bills, and it's trillions of dollars on one piece of paper. Actually, it's trillion. So the American dollar is going there, and of course, when it gets even close to that, it's totally useless and the economy will just completely fall apart. Now this is part of the plan now, because they're going for raw power, not monetary power. When the economy falls apart and it costs you a trillion dollars a trillion dollars to buy a loaf of bread or something like that, you can see you're going to get hungry pretty soon.
Speaker 2:And this is what they want because now they'll come and say, well, we, the government, will now take care of you. We'll give you food coupons, or we'll give you digital currencies just because we care about you. You just do what we do, what we tell you to do, and accept all of our rules and regulations. And don't say anything against us as long as you are completely obedient and friendly and don't try and do anything nasty about our regime, we'll make sure you can buy the bread and the milk and so forth. But if you step out of line, brother, we turn the switch like they're doing now in China with credit scores.
Speaker 2:That is what they're after. Now, that is raw power. That's not money. You don't own that. You're allowed to use it.
Speaker 2:It's owned by the state or by the banks. In this case, in America, it'll be owned by the banks, and not even the state. The state will have to get its money from the banks, who will give the banks even further control over the government. And nobody sees it except the people that care and have taken the time to understand how this mechanism works. So you ask where are we now and where are we going this is it we're there now and that there's some talk about having to wrap this whole thing up by 02/1930, and all of a sudden they're talking about sooner dates than that.
Speaker 2:They're even talking about 02/1926, and now I saw something just the other day that they wanted to get a major portion of this plan in operation by the end of this year, 02/2024. So they're speeding it up. And I think the reason they're speeding it up is because people are waking up. And as long as we still have the remnants of a real money system where we have things in our hands and our money and people can accept them, and it's legal to accept them, as long as that exists, we can break this thing. And so they're trying to, you know, chop off all those avenues of escape as quickly as possible so that there will be no no way for the average person to escape this kind of a prison.
Speaker 2:It's raw power, and money will have trans been transformed from money as we have known it, which is real money, into digital currencies, which are not money at all, but they're they're, tokens that will be awarded to people for their obedience.
Seth Holehouse:What an explanation. The so let me just share back with you what, like, some of the key points I've taken from what you've said because it's it's so important. And how I understand it is that, let's just say, four hundred years ago, the power was spread all across the world. You had kings, you had lords, you had people that owned treasure chests full of gold and silver all over the place. There wasn't a centralized power.
Seth Holehouse:So if a group of people wanted to create a system where they had all the power in the world, like the the villain in every Bond movie, etcetera, they would have to first create a monetary system that would allow them to collect all of the money in the world because that money is power. And let's just say that you're someone that, like, say, Donald Trump as an example, that has billions of dollars that can finance his own presidential campaign. That's power. If you can put a hundred million dollars towards a campaign or say let's just say you were worth, you know, a billion dollars, and you wanted to educate the whole world on alternative cancer treatment, treatments that won't kill you, you could do that. That's power.
Seth Holehouse:It would it would completely destroy a lot of their system, but, of course, they don't let those things happen. And you see that as people get wealthier and wealthier, that system controls them more and more and more. And so that I really like how you put it that that money is probably the rawest form of power, and the and the most basic indicator of power is the amount of money. So they've gotten to a point now where they've consolidated the vast majority of the world's money. And now that they've consolidated the vast majority of the world's money, it's this final stage for them where that money is already power, but they then convert that money, they get rid of the money, and they're just left with raw power.
Seth Holehouse:And so that's where we're at right now. So it's interesting because I've talked a lot about the BRICS nations and the the the de dollarization. And I think that for a lot of people, they like to think that, oh, you'll say Putin and Xi Jinping, they're going against the the evil cabal that's in America. Whereas I think it's actually there in a lot of ways, it's the, you know, we we look at left and right politics as being two wings of the same bird. In many ways, I look at the Eastern block and the Western block as two wings of the same bird, because if the people sitting on top of this, if they can use these BRICS nations to destroy the dollar and collapse that fiat system, it's helping accelerate their plan of getting rid of all currencies.
Seth Holehouse:Is
Speaker 2:that Precisely. Yes.
Seth Holehouse:Is that what you see happening?
Speaker 2:That's very astute. Yes. Anybody that really thinks that, mister Putin and mister Biden or mister mister Trump really have any visions other than what they share, in terms of money, they're mistaken because it's internationalized. I mean, there are clues, of course, that are visible. When you see people like Putin and Klaus Schwab sitting there across the table talking to each other and complimenting each other on how wonderful they're running their countries and or they're running their philosophies and so forth, you know that so there's something afoot that's not being reported in the news.
Speaker 2:And when Trump travels around the world and meets with these people, again, they're congenial, and they're talking about the future and how wonderful it will be when the monetary system is cleaned up and so forth, they use words that sound good, but when you stop and slow down and say, What are they talking about? Oh, they're talking about exactly what I described a moment ago. It's international, and their analogy that you just mentioned that the East and the West are really like two wings on the same bird, just like left and right is. And this is something the average person does not see and really doesn't want to see, is because as long as we think that we're on the side of right and they're on the side of wrong, well, we feel like there's a battle going on. There's a chance that we might win.
Speaker 2:But if you think that, Oh my gosh, both sides are being directed from the same central source, and the whole purpose of the battle between them is not for one to win, but just to gradually move the whole system in one direction. And that's to the point where there would be you can have two apparent sides, but they're not really opposed to each other. I think Orwell's novel, nineteen eighty four, well, predicted predicted that the world had been divided into certain groups that appeared to be at war with each other constantly. But the war was there not to defeat anyone, but just to keep the population controlled, thinking that they had enemies that they had to fight, and they couldn't complain about the sacrifices they were being asked to make because, after all, we're at war, you know? And so that's the game that's played over and over again throughout recent history.
Speaker 2:And you'd think that we'd get wise to it. But look at my own case. I went through school, went through the university, and maybe that's the reason I went to the university. And of course, they taught me just the opposite. They taught me about the advantages of collectivism and globalism and all that sort of thing, and I bought into it totally.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it, and they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that.
Seth Holehouse:And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storeable food that'll last for up to twenty five years.
Seth Holehouse:Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that lasts up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order. Looking at where this system is now, and you mentioned this acceleration, I think that's a really important point as well when people they see the plan was, you know, agenda 2030. Now it's 2026, '20 '20 '5, end of year '20 '20 '4.
Seth Holehouse:It seems like, oh my gosh. They're they're they're getting more powerful, and their their grip their grip is getting tighter and tighter. But I I see it as time is their friend. If they have more time it's like the Chinese, you know, Mao Zedong, his hundred year marathon. He knew that in a hundred years, he could bring down America.
Seth Holehouse:That was how the Chinese looked at things. They looked at it in in generations. So the fact, though, that time is no longer their friend, and they're having to quicken and tighten as quickly as possible, to me, it shows that I agree with what you're saying, that they're concerned that they're losing their window to bring in their system. Because right now, we still have independence. I can take I can take a thousand dollars and go buy, you know, you know, 500 rounds of nine millimeter ammo if I want to, which they don't want that.
Seth Holehouse:Right? But I can do that. I can take a thousand dollars and go buy a bunch of silver and bury it in my backyard. They don't like that. So we still have independence for this moment.
Seth Holehouse:So the collapse of this system, which as you've talked about, they're hastening. They want this now that they've extracted all the power out of the global financial system. They now want it to collapse. No. I know it's hard to make predictions because there's a lot of unknowns.
Seth Holehouse:But do you is that something you see happening? And do you think that we will experience in, say, the next five or ten years or in our lifetimes, the the collapse of the fiat currency, the dollar fiat currency, which is, in my understanding, would then become a domino effect for so many currencies around the world collapsing because so many countries have their holding US treasuries, etcetera. I mean, do you think that we're on the on the verge of an event like that that I think could, you know, make the Great Depression look like a bad year of the stock market?
Speaker 2:Definitely. I think that's a good good way of summarizing. We are on the threshold. And I think that it it was bound to happen anyway because the system is so badly riddled, so badly stretched, damaged that it couldn't possibly there's no way we can repay the national debt, for example. There's just no way.
Speaker 2:It's too large. So how many times the gross national product and the gross national product is probably exaggerated, that it can make us feel good. They twist those numbers a lot to control our attitudes, you know, make us feel good about things. So no, it's bound to collapse anyway. I'm just amazed that it hasn't collapsed before now.
Speaker 2:So that's not the issue. Will it collapse? Because it will. But I think your analysis is correct. They have decided somewhere along the way, in the recent past perhaps, that okay, this is going to collapse, let's time it, let's coordinate it with other things that we are trying to promote, so that it doesn't cause too much trouble for us.
Speaker 2:We'll prepare for it. We'll even know what we're going to how we're going to explain it to the people. We'll have what do they call them? These trial sessions like, you know, let's have an experiment. There's a name for that escaping me for the moment, but it's a it's like a military exercise to prepare for something.
Speaker 2:Simulation, I'm trying to think of simulation. They always have simulations and they're beginning to have simulations now of what to do when the banks close or when they're if there's a war or all the things that they're they have on paper as possibilities for new crises that drive us into further fear so that we stop talking like we're now talking. We have to talk about, are they going to bomb us now? Or when does the water get turned on? I'm dying of thirst.
Speaker 2:They want us struggling for life so that we stop thinking about constitutional rights and things like that. We only worry about, how am I gonna live? That's what they want. That's under those conditions people will be grateful for this central bank digital currency, which will be offered to us, and we can we can get our water and our our soup and the wine and so forth that we if we have these little cards or or something tattooed under our hand, we oh, yeah. Look.
Speaker 2:Griffin's got that. He's got capability of withdrawing, 250 units today today. But he can only spend it on certain things. And if he does this, this, and this, he gets nothing today and maybe nothing tomorrow either. And if he really is a bad boy, he's we lose him completely.
Speaker 2:He's not even in the system anymore. So he has to starve or beg for people to give him bread. That's what we're going into. And I know it sounds extreme. People say, this guy is a fruitcake.
Speaker 2:He's a real conspiracy theorist, he is. Well, I'm not a conspiracy. I don't mind being a conspiracy theorist if that were the case. But this is conspiracy not theory, but history. It's history.
Speaker 2:It's what we can prove has happened up until now. And we can look at what they're saying. They're bragging about what they're going to do. This is not me saying that they're going to do these things. They say these that they're going to do these things.
Speaker 2:But they make it when they say it, they try and make it sound like it's going to be a good thing, but they're talking about the same thing. They're gonna say we need we need government to control our lives. That's that's trouble with history, they will say. Freedom is we used to think it was a good idea, but freedom is a terrible idea. Look at the wars we've had.
Speaker 2:Look at the famines we've had. You know? All the things that they create, they'll say, that's because we these people had freedom. Now, it's the best thing for mankind. It's the greater good of the greater number for us to have total control over society, and you should be grateful that we are doing it.
Speaker 2:That's the argument, and a lot of people are buying into it.
Seth Holehouse:And so
Speaker 2:I feel so sorry to say that, but right now
Seth Holehouse:I agree.
Speaker 2:Too many people are buying into that. I
Seth Holehouse:agree. And so for people that are watching this and trying to figure out what to do, and this isn't about financial advice. It's not about, you know, if you invest in this stock, it's gonna double in the next three years, and it's not about this. To me, it's it's no different than buying food. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Like, know, having because that's a good example. If I have a thousand dollars of my own money right now, I can go buy a thousand dollars worth of, you know, survival food, and I can store it. And that means that if I need food, I have my own food store. But if that thousand dollars disappears overnight because of their collapse of the system, and I can't buy that food, that now gives them power over me to say, like, what
Speaker 2:I said.
Seth Holehouse:Well, as long as you're saying what we want you to say, and you're thinking what we want you to think, we'll keep giving you food. So in terms of, let's just say, people that do have money right now, because we do have it in the system. We might have savings or, you know, stuff, you know, mattress full of hundred dollar bills or whatever it is. How what is the best way to plan and and and to avoid falling into this trap of losing everything when they flip that switch, and then becoming really controlled by them and giving up all of our power. What are what are some things that people can do?
Seth Holehouse:And again, I want to frame this. This isn't about financial advice. This is this is about survival advice. Because I think that the more of us can act in ways now that we can survive whatever's coming, we increase our chance of winning. But if we if if they come out in the first wave of the war kills off, you know, two thirds of all of us who are trying to fight against them, that's not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There are a lot of things that are not good in their agenda, and that's one of them. Well, it's pretty simple, but there's an aspect to it that many people miss, I think. So let me explain what I mean by that. Usual advice is if you're going to become independent or try to be as independent as possible in times of great collapse, economic and civil collapse, the obvious things are you've got to have food stored.
Speaker 2:Okay, any questions? You gotta eat. You gotta have a good water supply. And if you're living in the city and all your water comes out of a pipe, you better invest in a lot of big barrels of water, big ones, and so have a lot of storage capacity. But even they get emptied out after a few months, you know?
Speaker 2:And so, it's a question of how far can you go and how much food can you store? How much water can you store? And how will you defend it when people are dying of thirst and hunger? They'll be coming around looking for you because they've heard that you've got food and water. Now you've got to defend your your life in order in order to have your food and your water.
Speaker 2:It's a very grim picture. So you can talk about these things and you can do these things, and I think I have done some of that. I have a little food put away. I have some water stored just like for the reason I said, but I don't think for a minute that's going to get me a free get out of jail free card in this thing. It's not enough.
Speaker 2:Now let me just jump ahead. The only thing we must do those things. Get some gold and silver, especially negotiable coins. Or there's a new system out called the gold backs where there's real gold in a plastic envelope. And it looks like it's a dollar bill or a $10 bill, but it's gold.
Speaker 2:And I'm looking at that very carefully. In fact, we might even start advocating that if I can see that there's real gold in there, and I've seen some videos of how they get the gold out of it. You put it in a crucible and heat it up, all the plastic burns away, and then sure enough, there's some gold in the bottom. Now, I'm going to do that experiment myself. And if that is true, and it's something that the average person could do if they really wanted to, I would start adding that to the list of things that you might want to, store.
Speaker 2:But you can't eat these things. So they start with things that you have to and you have to defend yourself against mob violence and desperate people. So you have to have weapons, unfortunately. But if you don't my old saying is that having guns is very dangerous. People get killed accidentally with guns.
Speaker 2:Little children get killed with guns. The only thing more dangerous than having guns is not having guns. That's the reality. So, you have to face up to some of these realities. That's why the government wants everybody disarmed.
Speaker 2:They don't they could say it's because of bad people shooting in schools and things like that or in supermarkets. No. They just don't want people like us to have guns to protect ourselves so that our only means of protecting ourselves is to have the government protect us. And then who protects us from the government? Which becomes the greatest predator of all.
Speaker 2:Anyway, so you can talk about things you should do, food, storage, water, weapons. Another thing is we always talk about find out who your friends are. Form into little groups. Make sure you've got assistance when you need help. Don't be so alone.
Speaker 2:You need you need family. You need the bigger family. You You need the clan, the tribe, as we call it now, who will come to your aid if you need help. You need to have medical supplies and know how to treat basic infections and things like that. These are things you can do.
Speaker 2:Now, that's the first part. There are plenty of articles on the internet on this sort of thing. Everybody sort of knows instinctively anyway what to do in that area. But the other part that never gets talked about is these things won't guarantee your future in freedom. They're merely delaying tactics.
Speaker 2:They slow down the ultimate end of your freedom or your life. They may delay it a little bit. You can hide it a little bit. You might survive another month or two or three, but sooner or later, all your preparations will be exhausted or subverted in some way, and if the system is allowed to go the way we're talking about, none of that will make any difference. So, this is reality.
Speaker 2:If that is true, then when we talk about how we should act now to prepare or to survive, We need to add one more word. Not just to prepare or survive, but to win. To win, that means we have to be proactive, not defensive. We have to have our own plans, our own we have to recover the system. We have to we have to engage these forces that we're talking about.
Speaker 2:We must depose them. Whatever it takes, we must we have to win, otherwise our freedom and our lives are gone. So this is a life and death struggle, and we shouldn't just be talking about how do you survive. I think we should talk about how do you survive while you prepare to win. And if that element is added to it, now count me in.
Speaker 2:I'm all for it. And so we start with educational programs where people have to be informed. I can assure you most people in America or the world know nothing about what we are talking here today, about money and banking. Know nothing about that. That means they're helpless.
Speaker 2:They cannot defend themselves. They'll fall for all of the lies and deceptions that they can think of. They'll just fall for them all. And so we have to do an educational campaign, which is already underway, and underway quite well, I might add. But we have to do more than that.
Speaker 2:We have to take this growing group of awareness, these people who are now aware, and get them talking to each other and getting organized and not hiding in their homes and saying, I don't want to go out. I don't want to speak up because it's controversial. They've got to get out there and start shouting from the rooftops our message and get organized so that we can depose these people politically and nonviolently. We don't want any blood in the streets. We don't want revolution.
Speaker 2:And they don't either, by the way. Real revolution. They'd like to have revolts here and there that they can easily squash with a couple of squads of police with their armored shields and all that stuff, batons, drones that come in, and they've got plenty of weapons for that sort of thing, but they can't overcome the 99 to one ratio of the human race of these people at the top and the bottom. So we need we need to get about 15% of the population mobilized so that they're they represent political power. Now we start replacing these people in positions of authority, and we start reversing some of these laws and these trends.
Speaker 2:We do it legally because we still have the power to do that. If we wait much longer, we may not have that power. So that's where the urgency is. The urgency is not so much how much gold and silver you have and how much food you have? But the urgency is how organized are you, and are we going to get on board with taking back control of our political system?
Speaker 2:And for that reason, in fact, I wasn't thinking about this, but it leads up to something very important that I would like to close with on this whole topic, and that is the reason that we created something called Red Pill University. Red Pill University cyber organization, so by itself, it can't do the job. But it brings people together and provides the information that we need. And then we have the Red Pill Expo, which is put on by the Red Pill University. And we have our next expo coming up in June, by the way, in South Dakota, in Rapid City, South Dakota.
Speaker 2:Oh, you've already pulled it up. Thank you. Yes. That's Red Pill University. And, if you get to Red Pill University, you'll have links where you can see what's going there's Red Pill Expo.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're way ahead of me there. Yeah. Those those are the two opening doors that, we've created so that we can lead to this kind of, political influence that we're talking about. The most important part of this is the creation of local, what we call them campuses of Red Pill University. They're more than just campuses.
Speaker 2:They're not just educational organizations. These are activist groups. These are people who support candidates. These are people who go visit the sheriff and make sure he's informed and make sure he's the right one. And if we need candidates, these are people who will go find candidates for public office.
Speaker 2:We don't we're not interested in waiting around until election time and say, well, let's see who's running for office. Who who should I vote for? No. The game is over by that time because our opposition usually has presented both sides, And we have your choice between the left and the right wing, as you said before. No, we have to field our own candidates.
Speaker 2:Mostly the people that we will put up as candidates are people who don't want to be in public office. That's a pretty good litmus paper test. People that want to be in office just to be in office are usually it's because of some self motive that they intend to benefit themselves from it. What we want is people who are leading successful, normal lives and don't want to get involved in all this dirty business of politics. We have to involved in this dirty business of politics.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, we'll forever be ruled by those who do get involved in dirty politics. So we're building campuses now, and and we have an organization behind it all called Freedom Force International. And it gets complicated, I know, all these levels levels of organization, but they're for different reasons and different different levels of the population with different levels of awareness, let's say. At the very top, at the red pill above the red pill at the Freedom Force International level, these are people who are dedicated warriors. They're guardians of the flame, so to speak.
Speaker 2:What's the flame? I'm gonna come to an end on this. What's the flame, guardian? It's an idea. It's an ideology.
Speaker 2:It holds us all together. It's our common bond. One of the problems that the forces of freedom has had in not winning we've been losing. Freedom has been losing for a long, long time. One of the problems or the reasons is that those of us on the side of freedom have never been able to say what it is we believed in other than the word freedom.
Speaker 2:What does that mean? Freedom to rule over others? You know, if you're a lawyer, you can take a word like freedom and mess it really up. So we need more than just this idea. We wanna be free.
Speaker 2:We more than holding up the constitution says, look. We we support the constitution. Then you ask him, well, what's in the constitution? Well, it's the constitution, you know. What's what about the constitution?
Speaker 2:China has a constitution too. Is it how is ours different from them? Oh, I don't know. It's ours. No.
Speaker 2:That's not good enough. That's not good. We have to know what it is that is necessary for freedom to exist. What are the pros and the cons and the danger points? One of the danger points, of course, is that should we win in this struggle, we might be corrupted by power and become just as bad as the people we oppose.
Speaker 2:That's the story of history. History is complete with these examples of tyrannies that have been overthrown by the cost of great blood and treasure, and yet they've been replaced by new tyrannies who are just as bad, if not worse, than the old. It's because when people fought against tyranny, all they knew was that this is tyrannical and we don't like it, So if we just get rid of the tyrant, we win. No. If we get rid of the tyrant and we're led by another tyrant in getting rid of the first tyrant, we haven't gained anything, and that's why we have to be on guard again.
Speaker 2:So what is the thing we have to look for? What is this thing, tyranny, called? We know what it's called, but what's it built on? What are the elements of it? And so we have this thing called the creed of freedom, and that's what everybody signs in on.
Speaker 2:And we find exactly as we hoped we would find is that this creative freedom is truly universal. I don't care what culture, what nation people live in, I don't care whether they're rich or poor, whether they're male or female, I don't care what their lifestyle is, I don't care about anything of that. If they read The Creed of Freedom, I find that by most I mean 90% of people who have goodwill toward their fellow man will say, Yeah, that's true. That's true. This is what binds us together.
Speaker 2:And most of it is dealt with the differences between individualism versus collectivism. That's the core of our battle today, and very few people talk about it. They they talk about, well, Republicans versus Democrats or left wing versus right wing or they talk about communism versus fascism or socialism versus capitalism. They don't understand that underneath all of those layers of confusing words that can be redefined in any way you wish almost, underneath all of that, there's a basic ideological conflict around the world, and it's individualism versus collectivism. And all of the rest are merely variants of those words.
Speaker 2:So we're building a movement based on an understanding of what it takes not only to overthrow a tyranny, but to keep it overthrown so that we don't accidentally, out of ignorance, create another one just like it. So all of that, I'm gonna say, focuses down now to these campuses of Red Pill University, because that creative freedom is what drives these people. And we found already through experience and we're just beginning to build them now but already I've tested it if you get you give me let tell you a different way of approaching it. I was involved in creating one of these things, and we started with three people over coffee. We decided, Okay, this one's going to I'll be good at that.
Speaker 2:Well, let's start by meeting twice a week, at least twice a week, and we're going to have coffee or lunch or dinner or whatever, or just get together, and we're not going to leave our conversations unless we've all agreed to do something tangible to make this happen. And within about five weeks, we had attracted, I'm going to say, 20 people. And at the end of six months or seven months, we had built a little army I don't know what the number is. We don't even know who they were but people who volunteered to distribute our pamphlets and call in on the radio, talk shows, express opinions. It was organized.
Speaker 2:And we defeated a very strong opposition that was sponsored by the big corporations. They were trying to sell the idea that we needed a water district. And the reason they wanted it is because they wanted to put meters on everybody's wells and say, we have a water shortage. And they wanted to tax everybody on the water, and then they wanted to steal it. And they wanted a water commission to do that, and there was no water commission.
Speaker 2:The rules and regulations relating to the water supply were being handled pretty well by the County Board of Supervisors. But they wanted their own water board which they could control. They already had their people in position for it. But nobody knew that they had people in position for it. They talked about water independence.
Speaker 2:We want to be free from Sacramento, which was the center of California's state government. We and they had a slogan. Unless it was what's their slogan? Well, it had to do with water independence. And I'm surprised.
Speaker 2:I can't think of the word, but they had a very good word for it, like freedom in water or something like that. And people thought, yeah, they they didn't want Sacramento to tell them how to run their water, so they were all for a local water board. Local control that was their phrase local control. And of course, it was local control, right? But it was controlled by the corporations instead of by the Board of supervisors.
Speaker 2:Now, I'm suspicious of boards of supervisors too, by the way. You give anybody the power to do something like that, you better watch them pretty carefully because they might sell that influence for some money. Anyway, so their motto was local control, which tricked everybody into thinking that they really were interested in local control, which they weren't. So we we beat them, at the polls, and it was about a 70% victory. And our total budget was, I think advertising and everything was less than $5,000 And we had estimated they had spent almost a million dollars on their propaganda program.
Speaker 2:But we beat it starting with three people. It can be done. You don't need large numbers, but you need people that are motivated and are all in the same track. They understand what collectivism is and what individualism is. And I'm gonna just say we've already tested it, and the formula works.
Speaker 2:And, if I'm gonna offer, make an offer right now, I want everybody to know more about collectivism versus individualism. And I'm working on another book. I've been working on it much too long, but it's mainly dealing with that topic. And I thought, at the rate I'm going, I might never get this book done, But what I could do is take everything I've written so far on the topic, including the creed of freedom that I mentioned a moment ago, and put it into a document, say a 50 page document. And I can put it up on the internet, and people can download it for free if they're interested in this.
Speaker 2:They should be interested in this, because without this understanding, we cannot win. That's a common ideology in every issue that you can think of. So I'm going to make this offer right now. If anybody listening wants that free download of this book called The Chasm Individualism versus Collectivism, you can just go to the Internet and type in chasmCHASM.realityzone.com. So that's chasm.realityzone.com.
Speaker 2:And you can download this You're way ahead of me. Wow. Can you travel around with me? And, yeah, there it is. There's a picture of the cover of it.
Speaker 2:And that huge chasm there on the front is just a pretty good description of the difference between individualism and collectivism. There's no crossing that chasm. You've got to be on one side or the other.
Seth Holehouse:Well, I'll make sure that all these links are in the description for people that are watching. I encourage everyone that does watch to share this content, because I think it was an important discussion that ended with solutions, which is what I always like to do. So mister Griffin, I just I really truly appreciate not just the time you've given us today, but just everything that you're doing. You are a an exemplar. You're a a just an example of what all of us should be doing.
Seth Holehouse:And your work has reached millions, if not billions of people, and I I thank you for that. And I thank you for the honor of having you on the show today.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for that. And the encouraging thing about what you just said is that there are a lot of people doing what I'm doing. Our job now is not so much to find more people. It's to get the people who are already working together. They think they're alone.
Speaker 2:That's where Red Pill University and Red Pill Expo come in. Getting these people splintered out there together so they realize, Oh my gosh, we are definitely in the majority. And that's, pretty important. So thank you for that, and I'm I just wanna offer my appreciation to you because you're you're part of the clan we're talking about. So thank you for that.
Seth Holehouse:Well, thank you so much. Take care, and God bless. Folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got a very important and very timely and short fifteen minute interview with my good friend, doctor Kirk Elliott. So please enjoy.
Seth Holehouse:Kirk, it's great to see you as always. Thank you so much for being here today.
Speaker 3:Oh, man. It's it's great to be with you too.
Seth Holehouse:So I recently interviewed g Edward Griffin, who, in my mind, is one of the grandfathers of the truth movement. And not just the truth movement, but especially exposing the global banking cartels. And this is something you and I have talked a lot about. De dollarization, the the fiat, the currency system, the Fed, Central Bank digital currency. And I I'm gonna give just a quick summary of this interview to get our conversation going, because there's a few really important things I walked away with that.
Seth Holehouse:Fundamentally, he he made this point that money is the probably the most accurate representation of power. That the more money you have, the more people you can hire, the more you can lobby, the more you can buy and sell corporations, whatever it is, the more food you can buy, the more guns you can buy. You can hire a private army, that money is power, and that money is probably the most accurate representation of that. So take society a couple hundred years ago, money and wealth was spread out all over the world. You had all kinds of kings and different lords and everything, But the globalist and and the people that wanted to control the entire world, they knew that they would first have to control the entire world supply of money.
Seth Holehouse:And so that he's saying that's basically what the past couple hundred years has been, is a consolidation of money. Because that money has been power. We look at BlackRock and the control they have over everything in Vanguard and State Street, and then the the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, etcetera. It's money that has given them the power to change our world in all the ways that it has. But the important point that he made, though, is that that money runs out.
Seth Holehouse:Meaning, once the system that is broken, and they're printing and printing and printing, eventually that money, they in part of their plan, once they have all the money that they need, they then get rid of money, and all they are left with is power at that point. And he said, that's basically where we're at right now in in society and in history. They've accumulated all the money that they need, and now what they're what they're doing is actively trying to collapse the system of money so that they're just left with power, and they have absolute control. And then he we were talking about central bank digital currency, and and even talking about you know, we talked a lot about bricks and dedollarization, and and he shared the same view that I presented that that basically, even what's happened with with the East and the West, the bricks and dedollarization is actually part two wings of the same bird, because what it does is the bricks accelerates the collapse of the global money system that still, you know, it's controlled. It still gives us independence.
Seth Holehouse:I can go out right now and buy, you know, one year's worth of food. I can go buy a thousand rounds of ammo. I can go buy some silver and bear it in my backyard. I still have control. But if that system has collapsed, there goes the control.
Seth Holehouse:And so that anyway, that I gave such a simple summary. I really encourage people if they didn't watch it before this interview to find the interview because it's mind blowing with mister Griffin. So that, I think, sets the stage for just a few of the things that we're gonna be talking about today, which is really an update of where this process is at of this global system that especially with the framing and understanding that the elites, cabal, whatever you wanna call them, they want this system to collapse because what comes into its place is no longer money plus power. It's just absolute power. So I'll hand it over to you now.
Speaker 3:Well, is absolutely power. I mean, so and money leads to power, right? So you amass all the money. You've got the power. And then if you take money away, what do you have?
Speaker 3:You have a global population of slaves, pretty much, right? Because they're going to be dependent on you because you created money, you took it away, now comes the power. Right? There's there's power behind that, because when especially with central bank digital currency, where they give you the ability to buy or sell whether they like you or not. Right.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's power. That's like the ultimate definition of power. When you can tell somebody, hey, this is what you can buy, when you can buy it, where you buy it, and with whom. Right? I mean, that's everything.
Speaker 3:That's power, right? So people are starting to wake up to that, though, right? It's not like it's going to be this super easy path moving forward. Well, I think that they're actually going to win in the sense of we are going to have central bank digital currency, Right? I don't think there's any way out of it.
Speaker 3:However, I think there's going to be parallel systems that come into play, right? There's going to be parallel economy, whether it's state chartered banks backed by gold or or simply silver for barter or something else, some other private currency. This is what our founding fathers warned us against, was a central bank. They didn't ever want a central bank creating money because they knew it would have too much power because of the centralization of it. What they wanted was competing currencies, which is why in federalism, which is basically the separation of federal government and state government, if the states can do it, then the feds can't.
Speaker 3:If the feds can do it, then the states shouldn't. Right? So banks are something that they can do, right? They can issue their own banks, so therefore the Feds shouldn't. Right.
Speaker 3:So this is where it's starting to come full circle, is there's been too much overreach by the Fed and all of these stupid draconian laws and administrative rulings like real time transaction monitoring of every person at every bank. That's Project Icebreaker at the Bank for International Settlements or Project Aurora where they say, well, if your ideology doesn't match up, we just won't let you do the wire. Well, we'll stop it. Right? I mean, and all these other things.
Speaker 3:Programmable money is the key to all of this because when your real life tangible assets, if it has a title, it can be tokenized. You can change ownership of it, right? So even some tangible assets where there's a title like a house is going to be lumped in with mutual funds, stocks, bonds, cash accounts, checking accounts, savings accounts, right? Because they all have a title of some kind of ownership to it. You tokenize it, put it into a packet, then it's easy to flip the switch and say, Okay, everything that this guy or gal owns, we're flipping the switch.
Speaker 3:We're going to give it to somebody else. Right? You can't do that with a tangible asset where there's no title. Nobody knows where it is or what it is, right? So this is where gold and silver being the last of the private transactions on Earth makes sense.
Speaker 3:But this is where they're going. It's all about power and control, and people are waking up. So read this article on Greg Hunter's website, usawatchdog.com, where here's the headline. Everything is going wrong for the deep state. Martin Armstrong warns that's what makes them so dangerous.
Speaker 3:Right. So I love the first part of that sentence. Everything going wrong for the deep state, oh, they're getting more dangerous. And I love Martin Armstrong. I think he's brilliant.
Speaker 3:Right. I think he's one of the best forecasters, cycles, analysts, trend analysts that there is. I think he's just absolutely brilliant. So what did he say? So he wrote this article called The Year from Political Hell, 2024.
Speaker 3:So in there, Armstrong is talking about in times of crisis, people will give away their freedoms. They will vote. Well, what's happening this year? It's not just an election year in America. Literally, it's the culmination of a perfect storm.
Speaker 3:60% of all the world is having an election this year. 60%. People are going to the polls. And what are they voting on? They're voting for a new government.
Speaker 3:Right. This is what happens during election cycles. They vote for a new government. So here's where you add that to the mix. And what are the economic and political and geopolitical things that are happening right now that might cause somebody to actually vote where they haven't before voted a different way?
Speaker 3:Well, we've got wars. We've got tons of wars right now. Russia and Ukraine, Israel and Hamas, China and Taiwan, all over a bunch of small regional wars. However, this year, Armstrong thinks this is the year that we could see nuclear capability in a war. Because not just because the economy, we've had nukes for a long time, but because of the actors that are fighting.
Speaker 3:Right? They all have it. Right? Israel has it. You've got other countries that like Europe has it.
Speaker 3:Russia has it. China has it. Right? It's like, oh, boy, this is going to get weird. So he thinks that there's there's a huge possibility we have nuclear weapons this year.
Speaker 3:So so here's the ugly thing about these globalists, Seth. Those people, all they want is war. They don't care. They don't really they they just simply they just don't care. They don't care about the economy.
Speaker 3:They don't care about your health. They don't care about anything other than making money. They make tons of money during wars because they fund both sides. It's like, look at the Rothschild family funded both sides of the Napoleonic Wars. I mean, that's when this all started funding both sides of the war.
Speaker 3:That's the epitome of not caring for people or health or anything. All they want is money. Right? And bankers today still model that. They still model.
Speaker 3:So. So here's where during times of war, what happens to spending? There's a contraction in spending because of uncertainty. And think about it. You're uncertain about your job.
Speaker 3:You're uncertain about the war. You don't know where the future is headed. Boy, you better save up for a rainy day, right? I mean, this is human nature. People stop spending.
Speaker 3:When people stop spending, income tax revenues, sales tax revenues, property tax revenues all start coming down. Well, Martin Armstrong knows this, too, because he said the GDP, The U. S. Economy is he's expecting it to shrink by 12% to 18% in 2024. We're not talking about the stock market.
Speaker 3:We're talking about the entire economy slipping 12 to 18% in one year. So what happens then? Well, if there's no tax revenues come in because people aren't spending, they're going to be forced to go to the printing press. That's going to cause even more inflation, higher interest rates to slow down that inflation. And this is where civil unrest, economic instability causes wars, but it also feeds on itself.
Speaker 3:Right? Because as people are hangry, right, because they can't afford to eat, when there's famine, when there's drought, when there's inflationary pressures, they can't afford to live. They start making irrational decisions. And this is where I expect kind of like a rebellion in government debt. As people start to lose faith in the government.
Speaker 3:I think that they're going say, what, you've gone too far, You're spending all this money. It's not helping any. It's actually making things worse. So this is where I believe that we're headed in 2024. Why is the second half of that headline true?
Speaker 3:Why are they so dangerous, even though it appears that there's they're losing? Well, it's like a rabid dog backed into a corner. Right? They're going to fight to get out when they think that they're they're trapped, they're they're blocked in. They're really going to fight to get to get out.
Speaker 3:Right. This is why we're seeing all of the lawsuits against Trump, because if Trump gets back into power, they're all fired. Right. And they know that they're losing power. So you I think what we're seeing right now, because America's waking up, the global population's waking up, and you see deep state Democrats, RINOs, neocons starting to get dangerous.
Speaker 3:And so what does Armstrong say to do? He says, buy physical gold. That's your answer. When there's uncertainty, that's your answer. Now, I agree with him in theory, but I would change the word gold to tangible assets like silver or gold, because silver's outperforming gold because of its manufacturing status and ultra low supply, high demand.
Speaker 3:It's just simply outperforming gold. But the gist of his comment was buy tangible assets to hedge yourself against all this garbage, And I would use silver to do that. Now, Peter Schiff, he takes it even one step further when he's talking about and exposing the lies from inside the administration. So Jerome Powell, chairman of the Fed, he's on sixty Minutes and he does this big, long interview. And what did he say recently?
Speaker 3:He said the national debt crisis is a distant concern. What? Distant concern? You're lying. He's absolutely lying.
Speaker 3:If it's a distant concern, then why do they have to raise the debt ceiling every year? Because they run out of money. Right? Why is it that the interest on our national debt of 34,000,000,000,000 is now a trillion dollars a year? That's absolutely unsustainable.
Speaker 3:When we bring in four point something as a whole economy, that's up like literally, that's like 25% almost of our entire revenue every year is going out towards interest only payments. So Peter Sheff says this. He says, this is not a problem for the future. This is not a long term problem anymore. This is a short term problem that could blow up at any minute.
Speaker 3:Right? Because if this is the generation where we probably have to pay the piper because the debts become so unsustainable that we can't afford the interest payments anymore. So you have all these lies coming out of DC. You have that everything is going wrong for globalists. And what do we do?
Speaker 3:We act in strength. We act in accordance with those things that we didn't create. We're just identifying them, and you get out of the path of the hurricane. That's where tangible assets like gold and silver come into play.
Seth Holehouse:I'll also add brass seeds. I mean, me, these are all they're all the same class. I mean, make sure you have food. Make sure you have seeds. If if you can get out of a city, get a couple acres where you can have chickens, you can have your own well, even better.
Seth Holehouse:So with gold and silver, we have a website setgoldwithseth.com takes you here. You're the man that I trust that I personally use that I recommend. You're a just incredible business person, principled Christian patriot. Goldwithseth.com takes them here. If people want to reach out to you to say move an IRA into precious metals or to make a direct purchase, what do they do?
Speaker 3:Well, you get you go to the GoldwithSeth.com or you call us, (720) 605-3900 and say, Seth sent you. And what's going to happen? You'll talk to one of my schedulers and they'll ask you questions like, what was it that Kirk and Seth were talking about that caused you concern? What are your fears? What are your goals?
Speaker 3:What are your dreams? Then you'll be put on the calendar for one of my consultants. And what are we going to do? We're going to dig deep into what you want as a goal. We'll map out a strategy for success moving forward using tangible assets and we'll make the transition easy and the burden light.
Speaker 3:If you have an IRA, we'll roll over the funds, tax rate rollover, right? We'll help you with the wire. We'll get everything done for you. So then when the funds show up, we get to decide. Do you want metals at home or do you want them in storage if it's a non IRA account?
Speaker 3:In an IRA account, have to store them, right, because we're also at the distribution out. But there's choices and bullion, bullion, bullion. Don't do rare coins. Don't do semi rare coins. Don't do everything that you see on podcast commercials all over the country, right?
Speaker 3:It's expensive. Don't do expensive coins. Don't do government mint coins. Don't do anything that's rare or semi rare. Just simply do bullion, which we can help you with.
Speaker 3:That is one of our goals. Minimize cost, maximize return, and that will also maximize your ounces. It's the only way you should invest your gold or silver.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. For me, my my favorite is just generic buffalo rounds. Just to yeah. They're great. They're they're cheap.
Seth Holehouse:Maximize ounces. Kirk, it's always great having you on. Thank you so much for being here. Take care, man, and god bless.