Mystery Maniacs

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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 254, a killer armed with a car tire cake, a Ren and Stimpy reference, forces someone off the road and into a creek. The return of Horrible Movies: Has Mark Seen it?

Show Notes
Corduroy Roads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corduroy_road

Happy Happy Joy Joy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maCA67ZFWpo

Fast & Femme

PWHL
https://www.youtube.com/@thepw

Thanks again for listening!
 
Mark & Sarah

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Creators and Guests

Host
Mark Bell
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs
Host
Sarah Smith-Robbins
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs

What is Mystery Maniacs?

Mystery Maniacs Podcast is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to British Mystery Television. Formerly, Midsomer Maniacs podcast.

Sarah:

Might be, but he's in his helmet. Hey, maniacs.

Mark:

Hey, mystery maniacs.

Sarah:

You should insert motorcycle here.

Mark:

Can we insert incredibly bad cover versions? Oh. Sure. I mean. Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV.

Mark:

Each week we dig into an episode of the show including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else we love.

Sarah:

This week, Brokenwood season nine episode six.

Mark:

Motorcycle mamas. I'm Mark and my motorcycle name is Mad Dog.

Sarah:

I'm Sarah and my motorcycle gang name is Debbie.

Mark:

Debbie.

Sarah:

Such a badass motorcycle gang name.

Mark:

This is a spoiler podcast. If you let your kids ride motorcycles with Debbie on them, they can listen to the podcast.

Sarah:

But don't because they end up crashing and people die. Yes. Before we get started, new Midsummer Murder is releasing this week. Woo hoo.

Mark:

Yes. So the day this gets released Like

Sarah:

how I make my own sound effects?

Mark:

Yes. The day this gets released, we will be watching our first Midsummer in two years.

Sarah:

Better live up to it.

Mark:

And more importantly or equally importantly, season 24 is being released in ITV this month.

Sarah:

Nice.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

They're not gonna be eight months behind us or two years behind us or some crazy thing?

Mark:

Nope. There will only be a month behind us. And and then somebody on the subreddit from Norway was like, yeah, I'm watching the last episode of season 25 tonight.

Sarah:

What? What? What? No.

Mark:

I think we should invade Norway.

Sarah:

Yeah. I guess it's quicker to translate translate it into Norwegian than it is to English. I

Mark:

It's in English.

Sarah:

I know. That was my point. Also, special announcement. At the end of this episode, a much requested feature is coming back. Yes.

Sarah:

Mark's horrible movies.

Mark:

Yes. Different people have mentioned they'd like to hear some Mark's horrible movies. So I will

Sarah:

And we haven't done it in a while because the folks who play parts in Brokenwood, they've all been in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, and that's about it.

Mark:

I see. Xena. Xena and possibly Lord of the Rings.

Sarah:

Maybe. Yeah. And that's it. And so we just couldn't do horrible movies. So instead of doing horrible movies where the actors in this episode of Brokenwood are also in the horrible movies, I just chose a theme from the episode and chose horrible movies on that theme.

Mark:

And I

Sarah:

like I got two humdingers for you.

Mark:

I like this idea.

Sarah:

Oh, they're prime is all I can say.

Mark:

We also sent out a newsletter this week and I wrote a little emotional essay at the beginning about how nice it was that people listened to us and how we made them feel like family and how they made us feel like family. And then this lovely woman wrote a note about how we had got her through her mom's passing and, you know, thank you all.

Sarah:

Yeah. Thanks for taking the time to send us that email. It was really nice and the feeling is completely mutual.

Mark:

She says, hearing your voices and laughter brought such reassurance that life would go on, I would be okay. Your podcast and community surrounding it support me in my dark, scary time. Likewise. Dark and scary.

Sarah:

Yeah. It's it's important.

Mark:

It is.

Sarah:

It's really important.

Mark:

Okay. Bling bling motherfarkle. Let's go.

Sarah:

We will also have recommendations at the end of the episode. We've had some good discussions on the subreddit about recommendations. Keep them coming. We've got some different ones this week.

Mark:

And people on the subreddit making their recommendations. Yeah. I could not be happier.

Sarah:

Yeah. And and they're good.

Mark:

Yes. Absolutely.

Sarah:

Recipes and all kinds of stuff.

Mark:

Okay. Original air date of this episode was last week on the 05/15/2023 directed by Mike Smith and written by Catherine Burnett and Tim Baum.

Sarah:

Why why do motorcycles have this? Do you know why they have this reputation as being like what wild people and rebels drive?

Mark:

Well, first of all, they're death traps. Yeah. Okay. Second of all, there were motorcycle gangs in the fifties, you know? And they they would be doing gang like behaviors.

Sarah:

But why on motorcycles? Why not in VW Bugs? Why not on bicycles?

Mark:

Because motorcycles are easier to get away. Skateboards. No. Motorcycles. There are skateboard gangs.

Mark:

Vespa gangs. There there are Vespa gangs.

Sarah:

And Those guys that robbed the museum in Paris, they were Vespa gang, weren't they?

Mark:

They they they were all sorts

Sarah:

of They got away on Vespas.

Mark:

But Quadrafenia has Vespa gangs

Sarah:

in it. I can answer this question, actually.

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

Prior to World War two, motorcycles were seen as utilitarian, economical, and convenient modes of transport.

Mark:

All of those things as well as being death traps is correct.

Sarah:

You can say they're death traps, but there's a lot of people who ride them on a regular basis without getting hurt. You just have to ride them carefully.

Mark:

I agree.

Sarah:

I think the perception of them as being death traps more comes from rebels riding motorcycles, which that perception didn't come around until after World War II. Okay. When disaffected veterans came home,

Mark:

didn't have a lot of money,

Sarah:

Had they had ridden motorcycles during the war because they're convenient to get And around because they were angry disaffected people, they got together and formed gangs. That's the truth.

Mark:

Those used today.

Sarah:

That's when motorcycles got that reputation.

Mark:

So when I said that there were motorcycle gangs in the fifties You

Sarah:

were correct.

Mark:

I was correct. Yeah. Okay.

Sarah:

We got there.

Mark:

We got there.

Sarah:

Anyway, that's why these ladies and mama's angels Yep. Can wear jackets that prevent anyone from hugging them because they're covered in big spikes or practical spikes.

Mark:

Or bedazzles? There's a lot of bedazzling going bedazzling going on.

Sarah:

Mama Sass's helmet is very bedazzling.

Mark:

There are a lot of people in this episode Mhmm. That are like, mom, mom, I gotta park people.

Sarah:

Well, and for a biker gang, which has a very good purpose, I completely support Mama Sass's idea of helping women who have been in prison and made some bad choices, build connections with other people, improve their lives

Mark:

They should get together with the nuns and they can take over the world.

Sarah:

That's true. But as a gang, they pick bad names.

Mark:

Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah:

There's Bella Donna. Yeah. I'm guessing her name's just Donna. Yep. Young Hoss.

Mark:

No one ever called my mother Bella Donna by the way. Even though her name was Madonna Bell. They weren't very creative.

Sarah:

No. Young Hoss.

Mark:

Young Hoss.

Sarah:

Is there old Hoss?

Mark:

Okay. Young Hoss is a reference to Bonanza.

Sarah:

What? Yeah. Which these ladies have never heard of.

Mark:

No. No. Then there's Sammy. Sammy.

Sarah:

And Debbie. Debbie. Badass names if I ever heard one. Sammy and Debbie. I mean, there might be Debbies out there who are badasses.

Sarah:

Your sister Debbie is a badass.

Mark:

My sister is a badass.

Sarah:

But it's not a biker gang name? No. It should be like Debbie Death

Mark:

And or my sister is not a biker lady.

Sarah:

No. She's the opposite.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Like, come on. Pick better names.

Mark:

I agree.

Sarah:

So the whole the whole episode is around Gavin Murphy riding Debbie's motorbike. Somebody's cut the clutch line, so he crashes, and then he drowns in a creek on his wedding day. Yes. I fully believe that when bikers get married, they sometimes put flowers on their motorbikes.

Mark:

Yeah. I can see that. I can definitely see

Sarah:

that. I totally buy that.

Mark:

Who carries around an invitation to their own wedding?

Sarah:

Somebody who thinks they might forget when it is.

Mark:

Oh, that's today?

Sarah:

I'm sure glad I found that piece of paper in my jeans that I washed. But it's clear from the get go that Gavin didn't die in the accident. He was severely injured in the accident. Like, both of his arms and both of his legs are broken. Right?

Sarah:

Yeah. But he didn't crawl down to the creek and and drown himself

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

In three inches of water. But So that's all it takes if you can't move.

Mark:

We're gonna say this again. We're a spoiler podcast. Okay. Can you imagine a more excruciating last half hour of life than having an older middle aged woman drag your broken body cross country?

Sarah:

Down a a creek bed.

Mark:

Down a creek bed only to have her step on your helmet and force your head underwater.

Sarah:

While wearing your boots. Yes. I think it would have hurt just to take his boots off.

Mark:

I why is he not screaming?

Sarah:

He might be, but he's in his helmet. Actually, the helmet would make a pretty good pretty good gag.

Mark:

I guess?

Sarah:

He can't exactly lift his arms up to take it off.

Mark:

No. But wow. When that all comes out at the end, I was like, oof. What a way to go.

Sarah:

You know, when you've got a mullet like that, you're angry.

Mark:

You you That's an angry mama mullet. I guess.

Sarah:

Apologies to anybody who's got a mullet. I know they've come back in style. I've seen some some younger people with cute stylish mullets. Mama Sass's mullet is not. It's functional.

Sarah:

It's it's helmet mullet,

Mark:

I think. 10/07/2023. It's do they call the year

Sarah:

of the mullet and I missed it?

Mark:

No. That's the date of the wedding. So that's the date of what's happening.

Sarah:

I thought you were trying to say back then they were in style, Sarah.

Mark:

No. No. I did have a question though. Mhmm. So does this make it a summer wedding?

Mark:

In New Zealand? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's weird. Isn't it?

Sarah:

Because it's all like opposite and everything.

Mark:

Why don't they just use the metrics? Oh, wait. No. That's us.

Sarah:

The other theme we have besides Gavin's excruciating death, he's just like being held together by his clothes at that point, and then he drowns, is poor Mike and Beth have broken up, and everybody is so concerned about Mike, especially Gina, who is back to being way over the top. Way, way over the top. Frodo is offering to be his wingman Yep. When he gets back out on the dating scene, because that's what you want is Frodo being your wingman.

Mark:

My heart came out like a hovering heart shaped hovercraft. Oh, Frodes, we've missed you. That is fantastic.

Sarah:

He genuinely feels bad for Mike. Everybody feels bad for Mike except Mike. Yes. He's like, I've accepted it.

Mark:

Now now I've said many times to different people that one of the hardest things I ever had to do was cancel a wedding, and I totally lied when I did it.

Sarah:

Oh, they hadn't actually planned it though, Mike and Beth. They were in the of starting to, but couldn't go much further because he was still married.

Mark:

That's not what I was referring to. I was referring to Mike having to go to the wedding and tell them that the groom was dead.

Sarah:

I don't know why he

Mark:

That is a tough day on the job.

Sarah:

Why he chose to, like, start at the top of the aisle and walk down? He takes a little moment, and

Mark:

and I thought, like, the wedding march was gonna stop or something.

Sarah:

There must be lots of jobs like that where you have that kind of duty every once in a while.

Mark:

Sarah said duty.

Sarah:

Thanks, seven year old. And you know, just get it over with. Just don't think about it. Just go do it. Deliver the bad news.

Sarah:

Tell them what's happened. The more you think about it, the more you won't wanna do it, the more difficult it will be. Just do it.

Mark:

Yes. And wow, It's still mind boggling to be tough.

Sarah:

I know. But you just gotta spit it out, and then it's done.

Mark:

Yep. Kristen likes corduroy cushions?

Sarah:

No. Gina, in her over the topness, says that she's gonna have to cut Gavin's leathers off. She says, if the family doesn't want them, we could save them and make cushions for your new house, Kristen. And Kristen is so appalled by the idea, she jokes back and says, I'm I'm more looking into corduroy. Imagine taking a nap on a corduroy cushion.

Sarah:

No. Okay.

Mark:

It would not be good.

Sarah:

It's gonna leave, your face is gonna look like a Ruffles potato chip. Yes. Right? So I think she's just being sarcastic. But Gina's like, oh, okay, If that's the style you're going for.

Sarah:

Do you know where corduroy comes from?

Mark:

I don't know if corduroy, the fabric, is before corduroy roads. It is. Corduroy roads are a thing that is pounded into Canadian school children that are things that were needed in early

Sarah:

What is a Corduroy Road?

Mark:

A Corduroy Road is

Sarah:

It's hard to say, by the way.

Mark:

Like a. What it is is when you're in the wilds of Canada and it's muddy

Sarah:

Uh-huh.

Mark:

You you cut down trees

Sarah:

and you put You lay them across.

Mark:

Lay them across and you go over those.

Sarah:

Oh, that must have been fun in your shockless wagon.

Mark:

Yes. Again, Corduroy Road.

Sarah:

Yeah. And just imagine the conversations.

Mark:

Well, I We

Sarah:

were out here on the frontier. We're gonna build a cabaret.

Mark:

I don't think they were very long. I think they were only

Sarah:

They just spanned the muddy parts?

Mark:

The muddy parts.

Sarah:

Yeah. So Corduroy is way older than I thought it was. You want you want to guess when it was invented?

Mark:

Well, I'd say that that was nineteenth century Canada. And if you're saying it's older, I'd go seventeenth century Europe.

Sarah:

Older. Oh. The original. I don't know. It's ancient Egypt.

Mark:

Oh. Dun dun dun. Twenty five hundred BCE to March.

Sarah:

That was exact? What you've been studying? Maybe. But the the version that we know, yes, seventeen hundreds England, simply made to be very durable.

Mark:

Was it another, hey. People make this. So should we steal it?

Sarah:

No. It was these people from faraway places, as you reference, make clothing that is pretty durable and and tough. And we have workers who need durable tough clothes. Maybe we can reinvent this and make it even more annoying to wear for people who can't afford anything better.

Mark:

Unlike Paisley, which is just theft. Yeah. Okay.

Sarah:

Well, it's just cool. I mean, how could you not steal Paisley? It's cool.

Mark:

Do imagine some really dour English people finally arriving in the subcontinent going, wow. Color. Nice threads. Yeah.

Sarah:

No. So it was invented in the early seventeen hundreds in England and early industrial revolution. So they finally had mills that could make a more complex fabric like that. That's got kind of a I don't know. It's it's almost like a shag carpet almost.

Sarah:

They they weave loops into it, and then the loops get cut and shaved. And that's what makes the whales. Yeah. The the lumps on it. I had no idea it was that old though.

Mark:

I had no idea.

Sarah:

So I'm thinking like French revolution. Like, they they might have been wearing cords.

Mark:

Oh, yeah.

Sarah:

It makes that whole viva la revolution. It makes it more fun.

Mark:

Off with their heads.

Sarah:

Yeah. You're not sneaking up on anybody wearing corduroyce.

Mark:

We used to have Nigel, Sarah, but do you know who we have now? No. Aiken makes a second appearance in two episodes.

Sarah:

Oh, yeah. That's right. Yep. So Debbie was in prison. Debbie, the fiance who doesn't seem very sad, was in prison with Trudy.

Mark:

Now, I'm gonna say this, and I don't know if you agree, but Ray is a stand up brother in this. Absolutely. He is absolutely looking after his sister. Yep. He could tell that she's scared.

Mark:

Yep. He could tell that she's upset. And he tells her, we need to go in to talk to the cops Yep. When it's vitally important

Sarah:

to do. He lets her lay low as long as she needs to and then pretends to be a lawyer next to her and pops up like, that's enough truths. Don't say anymore. Even though snake and tiger is for aspirational drinking.

Mark:

Aspirational drinking.

Sarah:

We get this whole story about Trudy and Debbie being in prison together. And whether Debbie was the troublemaker and threatened Trudy, or Trudy was the troublemaker and threatened Debbie. We end up finding out that it was Debbie who was bad, And really wasn't even bad. She just wanted a few days in solitary to kind of be by herself. And so she just Used Trudy.

Sarah:

Pretended to strangle Trudy and accuse her of narcing on her just so she could get put in the in the hole, I guess, for

Mark:

a I couple of guess. But I'm telling you, if I I was in would be heading to the hole all the time.

Sarah:

What? Just to get away?

Mark:

Yes. You get all that time by yourself and you don't have to deal with the idiots?

Sarah:

Yeah. I don't know. I think there's some trade offs there. Maybe somebody who's been to prison will write us and let us know.

Mark:

If you've been to prison and are a mystery maniacs fan, please get in contact.

Sarah:

If you're in prison now

Mark:

listening to this podcast You're in prison now. You've not

Sarah:

been to solitary, get sent to solitary, and then let us know. Do you prefer to be in or out of solitary?

Mark:

Send us an email or record an audio.

Sarah:

So narc, you know, Trudy's thing is I'm no narc. Yep. But she doesn't say that until after she goes to prison and gets out.

Mark:

This is the origin of I'm no narc. Absolutely.

Sarah:

Yep. They knew that seasons ago.

Mark:

Now, Tracy who plays Trudy

Sarah:

Tracy Gray. Let's just say

Mark:

friend of the show.

Sarah:

You've said that so many times. People are like, snore, Mark.

Mark:

I sent her an email. Well, I sent her a message saying that she did really good work in this episode.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Mark:

And she did. This may be It's a great her best episode. Well,

Sarah:

I don't know. There's another one where there's a woman who's being battered and scared. Oh, yeah. She does a really good job.

Mark:

She's really coming in her home.

Sarah:

But, yeah, much much wider range of acting going on. Yes. Why are there so many pikes at the snake and tiger? Did you ever notice the pikes before?

Mark:

There are a lot of pikes.

Sarah:

The weapons? Yep. The very multi pointed weapons.

Mark:

Why would you have weapons in a bar?

Sarah:

They seem like they're easy to access too. They're just kinda like

Mark:

They're just

Sarah:

in a rat.

Mark:

Kinda hanging out there.

Sarah:

I've never

Mark:

noticed with them. But

Sarah:

No. But you can pick them up like you do a pole cue and start a fight.

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

I I feel bad for truths in this episode because Debbie's a wrongin' Yeah. In a lot of ways. Well, they're all wrongins.

Mark:

Well, they've had tough times and they've made bad choices and they have to take responsibility for the choices they've made. Right. Wow. That was dad tone.

Sarah:

That yeah. Are you okay?

Mark:

I was hiccuping in your dappy.

Sarah:

I mean, Sammy's not a bad person. No. Bella Donna's just female Frodo in a lavender leather jacket. She calls

Mark:

him Frodolicious. It's very quiet. It's really at the end of a speech. She says, bye, Frodolicious. It's not something I I had to go back and be like Did she really

Sarah:

say that?

Mark:

Say Frodolicious?

Sarah:

No wonder he's so disappointed when they move on.

Mark:

Yeah. But, you know

Sarah:

He's met

Mark:

his soulmate. He's hovering hovercraft as I

Sarah:

am. Oh.

Mark:

He's hovering hovercraft heart.

Sarah:

Gavin also has a brother, Jason.

Mark:

Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Jax.

Sarah:

He's a recce.

Mark:

Let's talk about Jax. It's Jace. Jace. Do you think Jace looks like a biker, wrecker guy? No.

Mark:

No. He looks more like an accountant or a baker. He looks like he could play cricket.

Sarah:

Yes. Mhmm.

Mark:

Not the right, like no His hands are very clean. They're very clean. There's no scruff, there's no longish hair, there's nothing like that. But the question I have is because this is this episode, Chalmers gets invited by the wrecker guy back to the garage. Mhmm.

Mark:

Because the wrecker guy knows Chalmers because Chalmers is a biker.

Sarah:

Mhmm.

Mark:

And he owns a bike. He knows the bike terminologies.

Sarah:

Evil. Plus, I imagine the police in a small town know the local record guy pretty well because of fender benders and whatever.

Mark:

So tell tell me what happens. Turner shows up, and he goes to talk to Jace. And there's the guy from the wrecker Mhmm. And there's Jace.

Sarah:

Mhmm. And then there's, like, one or two other dudes.

Mark:

There are three other dudes Sitting there

Sarah:

nothing. No. They're just there for James. What are they? Because he's sad.

Sarah:

Because his brother's dead. Oh. They're drinking beer at work. That's what they're doing.

Mark:

I I was like, who are those dudes?

Sarah:

They're background artists.

Mark:

I have in my notes. He looks more like an accountant than a wrecker.

Sarah:

I don't know what a wrecker looks like, but he's kinda clean for somebody who's supposedly fix his cars.

Mark:

Should be a little rough around the edges. And in addition, in this particular episode, he does nothing but do things that make him look guilty.

Sarah:

Mhmm. What? Like, back his truck up and pull the gate off of the cop shop?

Mark:

Yes. He he commits crimes.

Sarah:

He goes to jail twice in a day.

Mark:

That's a crime. Yeah. Okay? That's a crime. You maybe shouldn't look so clean-cut being a criminal like that.

Mark:

Well, that's the way you

Sarah:

should look if you're a criminal and you wanna get away with it.

Mark:

If he's that stupid.

Sarah:

But you're not gonna get away with pulling the gate off of the the cop shop in No. The middle of the day no matter how clean-cut you look.

Mark:

He's he's totally, well, you guys should do something, turned up to eleven. Yeah. Oh, well, you haven't done anything in eighty six seconds.

Sarah:

Well, I've been watching you. You haven't solved the crime. But to be fair, Gavin doesn't look like a biker either. He looks like a bodybuilder.

Mark:

Yes. He does.

Sarah:

Who wants black doves at the wedding.

Mark:

Black doves.

Sarah:

Black doves do not exist in New Zealand.

Mark:

No. They do not.

Sarah:

I looked up. It took me half an hour trying to find the closest bird to a black dove that is native because New Zealand is very careful about invasive species. You're not just importing some pigeons

Mark:

No. No.

Sarah:

From somewhere else and spray painting them.

Mark:

No. Black doves.

Sarah:

The closest thing I could find is called like a hoku bird or something like that, and they're purple. Okay. And they're mostly land birds. They hop around more than they fly. If you release them, they would jump out of the box and peck at the ground.

Mark:

Oh, okay.

Sarah:

So I don't know what he's thinking.

Mark:

I do not know.

Sarah:

And I don't know what missus Baker,

Mark:

is that Missus her Baker.

Sarah:

I don't know what she's thinking. And that cake is sad.

Mark:

The tire cake? I don't

Sarah:

care that it's a tire. That's fine. That's cool. Have a stack of tires at least.

Mark:

Yes. It's one tire. What do they ride?

Sarah:

Uh-uh. It's not on a motorcycle. It's a car tire. It's a car. Black and white checked it's an Indy five hundred cake.

Mark:

It's an Indy five hundred cake, and they ride motorcycles that are important because they have two wheels.

Sarah:

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Have a stack of tires or a a tire and some handlebars or

Mark:

Something. Something.

Sarah:

That's just fondant on Styrofoam anyway.

Mark:

It's just fondant on Styrofoam.

Sarah:

You know what? When you make a cake like that for like an event, you bake it a couple of days in advance. Right?

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And you decorate it. It takes a couple of days really because you're doing other things too. By the time the cake actually gets to the event, it's like the last possible moment that it's going to be good. Yes. The day after, not so much.

Sarah:

If you have to hold on to it for a week, I don't care how much fondant's on it. Yeah. That wake is getting a real tire with fondant on it because that's the texture it's gonna be. Yep. Yep.

Sarah:

And they're just sitting looking at it on the

Mark:

Just What are we gonna do with this? Sitting room.

Sarah:

I don't know. Eat it. The problem I have with It's not even in a box in the fridge.

Mark:

The problem I have with the groom is they don't do a very good job of revealing his character because he is revealed slowly as a attentive groom. Right?

Sarah:

Yeah. But the the attentiveness gets turned into actually he was just really controlling. That's why he was making all the decisions.

Mark:

Which is not a bad arc, but the way they portrayed it was a bit sudden to me.

Sarah:

He goes from I want black doves and I've chosen the music to like I'm gonna rubbing her by her throat. Yeah. Yeah.

Mark:

And I again, I'm not challenging that as an arc that is good. I'm challenging that they maybe missed the middle half of that arc.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah. So so does Jason know his brother is like that?

Mark:

I I don't know because Jason's too busy being mixed up. Oh, wait a minute. I pulled another wall down.

Sarah:

Well, and he has no vehicle other than his wrecking truck. Like, that's his get around car too. When he goes through a drive through, it's in the wrecker.

Mark:

Yep.

Sarah:

Right? Brings a new baby home from the hospital. Wrecker. The wrecker. Yep.

Sarah:

You just you just swing it from that thing on the back. Right? It's a big hook.

Mark:

So I have a question to ask you because I noticed this about this episode and I noticed these things. I'm wondering if you noticed because Mama sass his hair?

Sarah:

Yes. I noticed it.

Mark:

No. No. What? There is a lot of b roll in this episode. Yeah.

Mark:

Like a lot of shots of Babbling Brooks Yeah. Cars and downtown and

Sarah:

Filler footage.

Mark:

Like a lot. Like, were they short on film?

Sarah:

Well, they can only have so many shots of ladies in leather jackets milling around.

Mark:

Well, that that was the other thing. The three dudes at the garage are only overcome by the, like, five whir biker ladies Who don't have speaking parts. Who don't have speaking parts, who change between scenes

Sarah:

Yes.

Mark:

And change ages. Be like, at the bar, they're all young, pretty girls. And then another part, they're on their bikes, and they're all middle aged women who are pretty.

Sarah:

I was gonna say.

Mark:

No. No. They're always pretty.

Sarah:

They're bedazzled. Tell when they're wearing helmets.

Mark:

They're bedazzled. Okay? Yeah. But their ages change.

Sarah:

How can you tell when they're wearing helmets?

Mark:

Well, none of these people are actually doing any motorcycle driving. I I feel like what's her name should ride by on her horse? Hi, I'm here to run the horse race.

Sarah:

Missy? And

Mark:

then the thing that said, stop the presses. Stop the presses. And it was the first thing you mentioned to me about the episode, and I was like, I know.

Sarah:

Mike makes a Ren and Stimpy reference.

Mark:

Ren and Stimpy is a American cartoon from the nineties. Mhmm. K? It is an acquired taste.

Sarah:

Yeah. Don't go watching it with your grandkids. Okay. It's kinda gross.

Mark:

It's an adult cartoon. Okay?

Sarah:

It's a teenager cartoon.

Mark:

Okay. At young A young adult cartoon.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Mark:

Okay. It is visually stunning. Okay.

Sarah:

But gross.

Mark:

But gross. It was unlike anything on TV. It was very, very brave.

Sarah:

And it did have some very funny moments. And it was better than Beavis and Butthead.

Mark:

It was way better than Beavis and Butthead. But it is the source of the happy happy joy joy.

Sarah:

Yeah. Mike says, oh, they were acting like everything was just happy happy joy joy. And I was like, pause. That's a Ren and Stimpy reference.

Mark:

Well, I was like, that clearly can't be a Ren and Stimpy reference because Mike is making it.

Sarah:

They must both be referencing something else.

Mark:

Yes. No. No. No. He's referencing Ren and Stimpy.

Mark:

Mike is referencing Ren and Stimpy.

Sarah:

Because in Ren and Stimpy, if you've never seen it, now that we've said the name of the cartoon like 15 times Yes. There's a song that they sing in an episode. Yes. It's a dark song.

Mark:

Yeah. A very dark song.

Sarah:

But the chorus is happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, happy, joy, joy, happy happy joy joy joy. Right?

Mark:

And it is it is implied that that is meant to be ironic. So they use it fantastically Yeah. In this episode. Reference. But I'm thinking it's probably more Tim Baum than it is mic.

Sarah:

Yeah. Another revelation in this episode regarding Trudy or Kristen. I'm not sure. It's a mystery. Kristen makes coffee and Trudy drinks it.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And makes a face like, it's okay, and keeps drinking it.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

So either Kristen's coffee has gotten better or Trudy likes it.

Mark:

I'm betting Trudy likes it.

Sarah:

She's the only one in Brokenwood who likes Kristen's coffee? How to be

Mark:

an esoteric person? Tracy, I know you're so super cool and a friend of the episode and everything. What were you thinking

Sarah:

when you drank Kristen's coffee? Because Trudy's not a character who would pretend to like it if she didn't. No. So either Kristen has gotten better. She is making French press, at least.

Sarah:

Missus Marlow has shown her how to do it, but it's had no no measurable effect on its quality No. Yet No. That she learned how to do it. No. She stirs the cafeteria with a wooden spoon that she, like, takes out of the sink and then puts back in the sink.

Mark:

Nigel's like, no. No. No. No.

Sarah:

I'm gonna have to watch that later. But Trudy drinks it and goes, okay. Whatever. And takes another big gulp voluntarily. She took She's not even made to drink

Mark:

it. Another big

Sarah:

gulp. Then Chalmers out of nowhere says Farkle.

Mark:

Yeah. So there's this really weird conversation between Sims and Chalmers where Chalmers has a psychotic break in the middle of it.

Sarah:

I don't know why because she says she's gonna go see somebody. She's gonna go see the ladies. He'd rub them the wrong way. So she's gonna go on her own.

Mark:

And so And then he

Sarah:

just randomly says something about Farkle, which is functional sparkle.

Mark:

So then he says Farkle, which is functional sparkler, to which Kristen is like, okay, I'm gonna go see these people.

Sarah:

Whatever, crazy man.

Mark:

And then he turns to his computer and says? Bling bling mother farkler.

Sarah:

What? Maybe he drank Kristen's coffee. Maybe. Maybe she put some stuff in it. Maybe that's why Trudy liked it.

Sarah:

Have you ever caught anything in a zipper? Any skin in a zipper?

Mark:

No, but I do have a story.

Sarah:

You know someone who's caught skin in a zipper? So Because mama sass apparently gets her fingers stuck or at least snagged in the zipper of Gavin's boots when she puts his boots on because she's savvy enough. She should be mama savvy to think ahead enough to not leave her footprints going down to the creek.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Though wouldn't she have bare footprints leading back? Yes. Okay. Anyway, I'm just skin in a zipper.

Mark:

So we're gonna call this individual Ian.

Sarah:

Okay.

Mark:

This was at a Boy Scout camp.

Sarah:

Most of your bad stories happened at Boy Scout camp.

Mark:

And I was a year older than Ian. So I think he was in the ninth grade and I was in the tenth grade.

Sarah:

We should be playing violin music behind this.

Mark:

Because poor Ian got part of his private parts caught in his zipper.

Sarah:

Oh, there's nothing you can do that won't hurt more. Now Right? Like, unzipping hurts.

Mark:

Imagine You

Sarah:

can't keep going with the zipper. Oh.

Mark:

Imagine 30 teenage boys Oh, no. Wanting to know what's going on. What's wrong with Ian?

Sarah:

Why is he screaming?

Mark:

I could still remember Ian's screams. And

Sarah:

Like, a nurse go and help him or something? No.

Mark:

Were no nurses here. It was a camp on a farm in Lennon

Sarah:

Oh, okay. And Like a parent? A mom? The Somebody?

Mark:

The scout leader took him into a tent.

Sarah:

And unzipped.

Mark:

As we all stood around the tent. Oh. And there was a moment where the crying was louder. And then Ian went home.

Sarah:

And we never saw him again.

Mark:

No. No, no. He was well known as the person who this had happened to.

Sarah:

Did he get a nickname for it? Was it called Zip or something after that?

Mark:

Not a nickname, but not me. But people would reference it with him, which I thought was horrendous up until the point where he was in university and he went to another university that one of my friends went to and he worked with a guy that my friend knew and that guy asked my friend, is it true that Ian got his cot in his zipper one time? This had nothing to do with our high school.

Sarah:

Ten years later.

Mark:

Ten years later.

Sarah:

Is it that rare, I guess, then?

Mark:

I don't know, but I don't wanna look up his Facebook because it'll be like,

Sarah:

Zipper man. Ian,

Mark:

the kid

Sarah:

who Ian the Zip baker. Wow. Like, here are my children and my grandchildren.

Mark:

I know.

Sarah:

The zipper didn't take me down.

Mark:

I know I've dreamt of what he That's sounded like

Sarah:

Lord of the Sly stuff going on. Poor Ian.

Mark:

And it was raining. I remember it.

Sarah:

I remember it raining. Oh. I just imagine we're going on about this. Like, just imagine a town after after everybody hears about it. When somebody says his name, everybody drops their head like, oh, poor Ian.

Mark:

Next week at our friend's place newspaper, Ian's incident mentioned on podcast.

Sarah:

The picture of Ian with a little pixelated square.

Mark:

Poor guy. He was a nice guy.

Sarah:

He was super That's a horrible thing to happen to anybody. Yeah. I kid him he'd be justified not to be nice afterwards, especially to the people standing around going, yep. How's your winky?

Mark:

No. So yeah.

Sarah:

It's like on Christmas Story, you'll shoot your eye

Mark:

out.

Sarah:

Yeah. Everybody knows. Yep. I'm kind of sorry I asked now.

Mark:

I had forgot. You know, you kind of forget things and You

Sarah:

block it out. Oh, yeah. And then it comes back.

Mark:

Oh, can I like, I remember the tent? I wish they people could see

Sarah:

your face right now. It's all scrunched up in pain. Sympathetic

Mark:

pain. I'm good.

Sarah:

So moving on, we find out that Debbie and Stevie have kind of a thing going.

Mark:

Well, you think all empowered women are lesbians?

Sarah:

Mama's ass has a line for everything. Yeah. She's she's ready to shoot back.

Mark:

She does. Indeed.

Sarah:

She's got her girls back until she wants to frame one of them for murder.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Ain't that convenient?

Mark:

I did notice that.

Sarah:

They've they've been in a relationship on and off for a year. Yeah. Like, this is not a recent thing.

Mark:

I don't know why she's with the groom. Because if he is a controlling asshole, okay?

Sarah:

Then why isn't why isn't mama's ass using her her gang weight to get her out of it? Like protecting Debbie from Gavin saying she doesn't want anything to

Mark:

go Like what did Gavin bring to the table that was nice?

Sarah:

Yeah. It seems like nothing. Like she was being forced to marry him. Yes. And it's not because she's pregnant.

Sarah:

That's not that's not a reason to marry him. No. He doesn't even need to know about it.

Mark:

No. She seemed to not care

Sarah:

about it. But they were childhood sweethearts. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But they weren't betrothed as children and they have to No.

Sarah:

Follow through. They're not royalty or something.

Mark:

Sarah, if you were upset and you rode a motorcycle and you needed to let off steam

Sarah:

I would go right back and forth up and down a strip of concrete over and over.

Mark:

At the airport? Yes. With my wolf cut. Why?

Sarah:

I don't know. I I don't understand people who go driving when they're upset either. It's the last thing I wanna do when I'm upset.

Mark:

You know why? I think this is why. Because

Sarah:

she You can voluntarily damage your tires a ton?

Mark:

No. She comes in and takes her helmet off and it's unbroken shot.

Sarah:

Mhmm.

Mark:

I think that was the only place they could let the actor do it. Maybe. Because if you tell the insurance people, this actress is going to drive a motorcycle on a road, they're going to be like, no. No.

Sarah:

You say it's an unbroken shot, but we see her pull up to the cops from behind, and then the camera shows her from the front and she takes it off. Yeah. So it might not be her writing it

Mark:

in there. I think it has to do with something about the insurance because the airport makes no sense.

Sarah:

No. No. So this affair between Debbie and Susan is Sammy, sorry. Susan would be even the worst biker Who's this? Susan the biker.

Sarah:

It's kind of a red herring. Like Gavin apparently knows about it. Well, he knows because he's found the text or whatever and threatens to throttle Debbie over

Mark:

it. Yes.

Sarah:

But he's going to marry her anyway. Yeah. So it's not a reason to kill him. Yeah. The reason to kill him is that he's horrible and Debbie doesn't have the willpower to get away from him.

Mark:

All she All has do

Sarah:

the help of all of her friends.

Mark:

All she has to do is not go to the wedding.

Sarah:

Yeah. Like, just don't buy a dress.

Mark:

I'm going to drive away Yeah. With my mom Yeah. And all my biker girls.

Sarah:

Yeah. And what are you gonna do?

Mark:

And you and the account brother are Who? Not gonna get me.

Sarah:

No. That's all she had to do. But no. They gotta kill him.

Mark:

They gotta kill him. Young horse.

Sarah:

Yep. Otherwise known as Tanya Lee. Tanya Lee. In that waist up choker thing.

Mark:

Yeah. Got a hand tattoo.

Sarah:

That says, dilly gaff.

Mark:

It says, list the work and work the list.

Sarah:

No. That's what yours would say. So It says, dilly gaff, which is do I look like I give a

Mark:

You know, I think this is a thing that bikers do to make fun of people who think they're bikers. Yeah.

Sarah:

Well, getting a tattoo like that on your hand is a statement. It's there's no going back

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

To polite society for me. I'm committed. If you had an acronym or an initialism on your hand

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

What would it be?

Mark:

It would it would be list the work and work the list.

Sarah:

That would be l t w w. I'm trying to

Mark:

spell It the letters

Sarah:

it's not a acronym No. That you can

Mark:

Maybe rage bait. Rage bait.

Sarah:

I came up with two. Well, no, actually three that I think might be good.

Mark:

Oh, no, wait. I I know what. What? The first hand would say r I j t.

Sarah:

Which is?

Mark:

Right. And the second hand would say l e f t.

Sarah:

R I j t?

Mark:

Rigid it.

Sarah:

Do you know how to spell right?

Mark:

I'm just trying to get into four letters.

Sarah:

But it's not like that on Tanya Lee's hand. It's on the back of her hand. Yeah. It's not a knuckle tattoo.

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

Right? So you can have

Mark:

On the back of my hand?

Sarah:

How many fingers do you think she has if she has dilly gaff on her?

Mark:

Just it's a lot of fingers. So what are you gonna have?

Sarah:

I thought maybe I would have thug, which would stand for tired, hangry, und, grumpy. I had to go with und because fag really isn't a thing. So it's tired, hangry, or grumpy. Or Dilfet. Dilfet.

Sarah:

Do I look fat in this?

Mark:

Do I look okay.

Sarah:

Or I think this is my favorite. This is serious. Okay. Dilliness. Dilliness.

Sarah:

What do you think it stands for?

Mark:

Do I look like I give an ass? N a s. Give.

Sarah:

N a s. What would the n a s stand for?

Mark:

Not poop.

Sarah:

Need a snack.

Mark:

Do I look like I need a snack?

Sarah:

I'm hypoglycemic. If I'm on the floor, I would just hold my hand up. And they would know.

Mark:

Give her

Sarah:

a piece of candy.

Mark:

Those Snickers commercials that you've seen where the one actor steps in for another Yeah.

Sarah:

You're hangry. You need a snicker?

Mark:

That is that's

Sarah:

My personality changes when my blood sugar's low. Then Angry is an understatement.

Mark:

It has to be the most scared question that I have ever asked you, which is something like

Sarah:

Have

Mark:

you eaten? Would would you like some butter? Please

Sarah:

don't hurt me. So Dylan asks

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Do I look like I need a snack? And then it's followed by, don't answer that question. What do you mean by that? What are you trying to say? And then we're back to Dilphid.

Sarah:

Do I look fat

Mark:

in this?

Sarah:

Because you think I need a snack.

Mark:

There is a needless contradiction between what a CD is and what a memory stick is.

Sarah:

Yeah. It doesn't really matter, does it? It's silly. Except missus Baker's like, I've never seen one of those sticks that can remember things. Okay.

Mark:

And meanwhile, Chambers has regained consciousness Yes. Now. And he's using real words in real sentences.

Sarah:

He's not like, He's done doing his Swedish Chef impersonation. So so young is Has cuts the clutch line because independently of anybody else, she thinks Gavin needs to die.

Mark:

No. No. Mama Sass gets her to do it.

Sarah:

You think so?

Mark:

Yeah. Puts

Sarah:

her up to it?

Mark:

That's why mama Sass comes back and says

Sarah:

To make sure she's that he's dead. Yep. So young Hass cuts the clutch line because mama Sass says Hass. What did I say?

Mark:

You said Hass. Okay.

Sarah:

Because mama Sass knows that Gavin is gonna take Debbie's bike to replace the spokes Yeah. Thingamabobs on her tires.

Mark:

I'll get you some new wheels, baby.

Sarah:

They're they're they're shiny. They farkle. Pink ones would be hideous by the way.

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

Shiny pink or matte pink, hideous. Again So so Young Haas does that.

Mark:

Baby, I only buy you new wheels because I love you.

Sarah:

He does crash. Yeah. But then mama sass says, oh, I'm gonna go pretend to pick up the music CD Yes. As an excuse to check to make sure that it worked.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And she sees him

Mark:

screaming. What is it, Ian? Is

Sarah:

that the helmet over his mask? Screaming like Ian in the tent at boy scout camp and finishes the job. Now if Mama Sass got her to do that, did she also say, and if we get caught, you're going to take the blame? I'm going to let you take the blame?

Mark:

I guess.

Sarah:

Or is that young Haas voluntarily saying,

Mark:

I'll do I think it's young Haas voluntarily

Sarah:

Thinking about this woman's done a lot for me. I'll take the blame for her.

Mark:

Yeah. I'm a bad person, you know. She's a good person, even though

Sarah:

she drowned him in the creek with her with his boot on her foot on the back of his helmet.

Mark:

Yes. But what it what it is, Sarah, is it's not talked about in Fast and Femme. Do you know what Fast and Femme is? No. Fast and Femme is New Zealand's women's motorcycle magazine that is shown in one shot.

Sarah:

It's like Fast and Furious?

Mark:

Yes. Ride or die with mama sass, kiwi bikers, mud, sweat, and gears. Wow. There's ultimate gear guide and Shabbat Siobhan Cade, twenty five years of riding. Fast and fam.

Sarah:

Somebody worked really hard on that.

Mark:

Yep. And it has the the motorcycle mama's logo on it and it has Debbie and Steph.

Sarah:

You mean angels, mama's angels?

Mark:

Mama's angels. Debbie's and Steph on the cover with Mama Sass.

Sarah:

I'm just upset with them for not being more original. Mama's Angels, that's the best you could come up with.

Mark:

Yeah. It's just a reference to Charlie's Angels. Or Hell's Angels.

Sarah:

Or Hell's Angels. Probably the more obvious one.

Mark:

Oh, wow. Bling bling mother farkle. Farkler.

Sarah:

I'm just disappointed, you know? Yeah. I mean, when you think about Mama Sass's dedication, they do all this charity work and everything else, and these are women who really needed a hand up and a family. Yep. And they can't come up with something better than that.

Mark:

I wish they did, and I also think that this is end of the season. It's been a long season and they're they're ready for bed.

Sarah:

Let me ask you an honest question. Do you think though you wouldn't ride one, that people who ride motorcycles look cool?

Mark:

Oh, definitely.

Sarah:

Okay. Does mama I sass

Mark:

have rode a motorcycle. Okay.

Sarah:

Does mama sass look cool on her three wheel motorcycle?

Mark:

Yeah. The bling, I think, has more of a less of a cool factor.

Sarah:

It's the bejeweling that takes it down, not the fact that it's purple three wheeler.

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

Okay. So you think you can look cool on a three wheeler?

Mark:

Well, I would look cool on a three wheeler. That's for sure.

Sarah:

It looks more comfortable.

Mark:

Yeah, it does.

Sarah:

But probably not quite as cool. Not as badass. Yeah. I mean, you can't take corners real fast. No.

Sarah:

And you could have luggage.

Mark:

I guess.

Sarah:

It's a bit more practical. And practical's never cool.

Mark:

There's carrying cases.

Sarah:

You don't have saddlebags, you have luggage rack, I guess. Though if I had to ride a motorcycle, that's what I would want.

Mark:

Oh, well, yeah.

Sarah:

Or at least a sidecar. Yeah. Because Olive would need some place to add.

Mark:

And I definitely will ride

Sarah:

Or I with put you in my sidecar. You and Olive in the sidecar.

Mark:

And that goes to Photoshop.

Sarah:

I'm gonna AI that later. I don't even need to Photoshop it. Are you kidding? There's going to be a video because I have both you and Olive on Sora. Yep.

Sarah:

So in the end, though Tonya Lee has confessed Yep. Nobody's fallen.

Mark:

There's a roadblock.

Sarah:

It's clear that Mama Sass did it. Yep. But they don't have the evidence right off. They're gonna have to do DNA, and so they've blocked the road.

Mark:

And they put too much b roll in the episode, so there's no end End it. Yep. There's no denouement.

Sarah:

I I think probably mama's ass is just gonna confess.

Mark:

Yeah. I think so.

Sarah:

I don't think she's gonna let Tanya take the wrap.

Mark:

It's a little sad trombone of womp womp womp. Yeah. Yep.

Sarah:

Shall we do bad movies or recommendations first?

Mark:

Let's do bad movies first.

Sarah:

Oh, boy. It's been a while since we've done one of these bad movies. So if you don't remember the format, the goal is for Mark to guess the movie that I'm describing because he's probably seen it.

Mark:

I've watched thousands of bad movies.

Sarah:

I'm gonna guess though. I've got two for you. Yeah. I think I'm gonna be two for two.

Mark:

Oh, I'm I'm I'm thinking you might be, though I have seen a lot of biker movies.

Sarah:

These are both bad biker They're really bad. But I tried to stay away from like, you know, exploitation movies or you know, really niche like independent movies. These are both movies that were released big Wide release. Big screens. Yep.

Sarah:

And I still think I'm going to be two for Okay. So the first one was released in 1982.

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

It has a zero rating on Rotten

Mark:

Tomatoes. Zero.

Sarah:

It was directed by the same director who made Smokey and the Bandit and Cannonball Run.

Mark:

Two movies I saw probably in 1980.

Sarah:

Mhmm. The tagline is there's never been a superhero like Ace Hunter. Oh. The good guys, the good motorcycle gang in the movie, their signature thing is that their motorcycles can fly. A gold jumpsuit.

Mark:

Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, I've never seen this movie, but I remember, like He's holding poster.

Sarah:

He's, like, grabbing his head with both hands. Like, he's gonna squeeze the idea out.

Mark:

Oh, what is that movie? No. It's called Megaforce. That's right. Megaforce.

Mark:

I saw Megaforce at the theater.

Sarah:

Barry Bostwick plays the leader of the good motorcycle gang.

Mark:

What you didn't say is it is post apocalyptic.

Sarah:

Well, that's a given.

Mark:

Yeah. Not only have I seen Megaforce, I may have rented Megaforce

Sarah:

You have to say Megaforce.

Mark:

Megaforce. With with my friends, and I think we said, we should do this in Gamma World, which was a TSR role playing game set in a post apocalyptic future.

Sarah:

Yeah. Barry Bostwick wears a gold jumpsuit and has, like, a a strap across his chest that seems to have a calculator tape to Yeah. That's Yeah. And he has a headband on all the time across his forehead.

Mark:

I definitely have seen that, but did not remember that.

Sarah:

One for me.

Mark:

One for you.

Sarah:

Okay. I'm gonna give you the full out description of the second movie. What year? 1971. Okay.

Sarah:

So it's an oldie.

Mark:

Yep. It's an oldie.

Sarah:

There's two taglines. One, if you're hairy, you belong on a motorbike.

Mark:

Oh, okay. This is the werewolf oh, hair horror the werewolf biker movie that I don't think it's British. Go on.

Sarah:

The gang thought it was tough till it found a new kind of hell, the bride of Satan.

Mark:

Oh, I definitely know this movie.

Sarah:

You basically got it.

Mark:

We've done this movie.

Sarah:

It's called werewolves on wheels.

Mark:

Werewolves on wheels. We've done that movie as a bad movie before in another episode.

Sarah:

We have?

Mark:

I bet we have. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure.

Sarah:

Because when I read the description, was like, wow. I this is crazy. Are you ready? I'm I'm Let me read this.

Mark:

I am 95% sure we I don't mentioned think that so.

Sarah:

Because the motorcycle gang is called the Devil's Advocates. Yeah. Okay. This is the back of the VHS. Yeah.

Sarah:

The Devil's advocates are a rambunctious but largely amiable pack of bikers with style to burn, who meet a horrendous fate at the vengeful hands of a cloister of devil worshipping monks. While the advocates are out cold because of drugged wine, the monks decide to use one of their girls as bride of Satan. The advocates arouse from their stupor before the ceremony is over, beat up the devil monks to rescue their girl and bring upon themselves a terrible fate. Yep. Devil monks.

Mark:

Yep. Devil monks. I think it's British too, which makes it even weirder. The bikers look like hippies.

Sarah:

Yeah. They're not like leather.

Mark:

They're like peace dudes. We've definitely talked about this movie before.

Sarah:

I don't remember that, but I'll give it to you because you clearly know what it is. If you're hairy, you belong on a motorbike. But the hairy is a werewolf. Yeah. It gives a new meaning to two hairy bikers.

Sarah:

Yes. Those guys with the cooking show.

Mark:

It does. They're werewolves. They're werewolves.

Sarah:

Oh, speaking of them, I saw a clip of two fat ladies the other day.

Mark:

Yeah. They came up on my feet

Sarah:

on YouTube stuff. Yeah. I miss them. Yep. Ready for recommendations?

Mark:

I am ready for recommendations.

Sarah:

My recommendation this week is to buy yourself an advent calendar. Yeah. Alright. I have never had an advent calendar. Nope.

Sarah:

My family is not religious. Nope. But now there's advent calendars for everything. Yes. And a friend of mine at work gave me one as a gift.

Sarah:

It's a Bon Maman advent calendar, which is the jelly that comes in the glass jar with the red and white checked lids, which is my favorite brand of jellies and jams, and he knows So he gave me this advent calendar to say thank you for I bake every Sunday, and I take cookies or cupcakes or treats or something to work every Monday. And so to say thank you, Craig, if you're listening, he gave me this advent calendar. And I only had it for a few days so far, and it is so fun Yep. Because every day there's a tiny glass jar of jelly in there that's a new flavor, and I'm so excited to see what

Mark:

it is. Yes.

Sarah:

It's so fine.

Mark:

We have we have 30 little glass jars now.

Sarah:

We will when we're done. Yeah. But it is so fun to have a little surprise. And I see no reason why you have to wait for somebody else to give you one. No.

Sarah:

If you like something, chocolates, cheese, I don't know, Buy socks

Mark:

an advent calendar.

Sarah:

Buy one for yourself. It's a little treat. Better yet, buy one now, and then in January, buy a crap ton of them when they're really cheap. And treat Sell chocolates. And treat January like the month where you're supposed to open it, and you'll have so many surprises for yourself.

Sarah:

Yeah. It's a little thing, but it's been super fun.

Mark:

Yep. Excellent. What's your recommendation? From completely the other end of the field, my recommendation is that you should do yourself a favor and watch some professional women's hockey.

Sarah:

Oh, yeah. Because Even if you're not a hockey fan, it's really fun to watch.

Mark:

It's really fun to watch. They are inspirational women. Absolutely. Absolutely inspirational women.

Sarah:

Just to watch the little girls who are in the audience watching, in the stands watching is inspiring.

Mark:

Yeah. Professional women's sports is now the coolest thing in the world. Yeah. And I think that even with like, I'm expecting a bump for men's hockey because of the Olympics. Mhmm.

Mark:

I think women's hockey is gonna get an even bigger bump. Yep. Because of the Olympics.

Sarah:

And they have super cool mascots.

Mark:

They have super cool mascots.

Sarah:

Like the sirens

Mark:

They and stuff like have teams. They have Boston, Minnesota, Montreal, New York, Ottawa, Seattle, Toronto, and Vancouver. And they do this really cool thing where you're like, okay, I don't live in any one of those cities. They do this thing where they take over other cities for an evening and play games in those cities that where the teams aren't from. Mhmm.

Mark:

So that that's how they gauge where they should Have new teams. The league New franchises. The league is run really well. They did the smartest thing in the universe, which was all games are on YouTube free of charge for anybody to watch.

Sarah:

Yeah. So wherever you are in the world, you can watch women's hockey.

Mark:

And it's not like they're not selling tickets. They're selling out games. The Seattle home opener this year, they're a new team, had 16,000 people at. That's NHL numbers.

Sarah:

Are they the Seattle sirens?

Mark:

No. They are the Seattle torrent. Torrent. And the other thing that I've really liked is almost all of the the men's teams that have teams in these cities or teams related to these teams Mhmm. Have walked in to the their games with their jerseys on.

Sarah:

With the the the women's team

Mark:

jersey The women's team's To jersey

Sarah:

show support.

Mark:

There's a player on the Ottawa Senators whose sister plays for the Seattle team whose his twin sister plays for the Seattle team. And he walked in the other night with her jersey on to Their parents are so proud of Like, they it is everything about it is really well run. It's fun to watch.

Sarah:

You can get an advent calendar, open all of the goodies Yep. All at once and watch a women's hockey game. That'd be a heck of a night.

Mark:

And they have the other thing I love is they have slightly different rules. So, in hockey when you get a penalty, one of your players has to sit in the penalty box. The way it works in women's hockey is if your team scores when you're down a player, you get that player out. It's called

Sarah:

a jailbreak. So they don't have to wait till the time is up. Get released immediately.

Mark:

They get released immediately. And that is, like, so exciting. It makes it even more interesting on a power play.

Sarah:

So in those times in men's hockey when, like, most of the team is in the penalty box Yes. In a women's game, they would just have to keep scoring to get players out

Mark:

over and

Sarah:

over again. Well, the time can run out too though. Right? They don't have to score to get them out. Okay.

Sarah:

Because that would be fun too. Nope. You're in there until they score. Sorry. And it's It might be never.

Mark:

It's fast. It's skilled. It's so fun to watch.

Sarah:

That's a good recommendation.

Mark:

Do yourself a favor and and pick a team. If you're not in any of these cities or you like another city, pick a team and watch a couple of those games.

Sarah:

Put a link to the YouTube channel in the show notes.

Mark:

I will put a link to the YouTube channel in the show notes. They are fun to watch.

Sarah:

So there's our recommendations for this week. Watch some women's hockey, professional women's hockey. Buy yourself an advent calendar. You deserve a treat every day.

Mark:

And tonight, Sarah and I will be watching Midsummer.

Sarah:

There was some silence there. Yes. Brand new Midsummer. And releasing a spoiler free, watch it like a maniac mini episode.

Mark:

Yep.

Sarah:

Alright. Until then, bye maniacs.

Mark:

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Mark:

Bye, maniacs.

Sarah:

I'm so glad you're recording this.

Mark:

There's my outtake.