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Gav and Dan lend their unique perspective to horror films and the world surrounding them. With Gav's unique perspective as a filmmaker and Dan's peculiar perspectives, The Podcast on Haunted Hill offers a fresh view of horror cinema!
The podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.
I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's work.
I saw this when I come.
And be one of us.
Hello, and welcome to the podcast on Haunted Hill, episode 167.
I am Gav.
Sexy heaven, I am Dan.
I again paused, because I was like, oh fuck, I think I got a number wrong.
No, you did it right.
Welcome, ladies, gentlemen, non-gendered ghouls, ghoulies, things, things that come out in the cold season.
If this is your first time.
Windigo, snowy thing, snowy, the snow monster, a bumble snowman.
Just welcome one and all.
Santa Claus will soon be coming down your chimney, delivering you presents of happiness and joy.
Well, if you are a regular listener, then you'll understand what's going on.
Sackloads.
So as Gab says, if you're a regular listener, welcome back.
If you're a new listener, welcome front.
And if you're just someone who pops in now and again, sideways, up, down, come around the side.
Sneak in wherever you can, that's what I say.
If there's a window open, pop on in.
We are the podcast on Haunted Hill.
This is 167.
We are ridiculously cheap with our humor.
But yes, go on, carry on.
This is...
We've jiggled a few things around because we were out without technology for a month.
Well, Gav was.
The world hates him.
The electronic world does not like Gav at the moment.
Even today, he had a problem.
Almost.
It didn't happen.
I kept texting saying, we're going to turn your power off.
But it'll be back on at 4.30.
And I was like, all right, OK.
And then it's like, we're all going to text.
We could turn it off later.
And then they text me again saying, don't worry.
We could do it another day.
What?
Stop doing that.
It's because you keep talking about AI.
And so the government is listening and it knows that you...
Government been listening for ages.
But we jiggled things around.
This one is still in schedule, but our next few episodes will be moved around a bit because Christmas, as Gav said, is really coming in fast.
So this is still what we scheduled.
This is an episode where we're taking a look at two sequels.
Oh, my God.
I've just seen Exorcist II has 3.8 out of 10.
Yeah.
I didn't realize it was so low.
Well, there we go.
We're recovering Exorcist II, The Heretic from 1977 and Exorcist III.
There's no the in that one, just Exorcist III.
Oh, no, it is The Exorcist III.
That's right.
It's the number two that doesn't have the the.
It's just Exorcist II.
And that's from 1990.
It was supposed to be just called Legion, wasn't it?
But they were like, no, no, come on.
Let's just make everyone go to watch it at the cinema.
Well, there's a lot to talk about with both of them because they're both kind of...
The third one is quite loved in the horror community.
Almost directed by John Carpenter.
Indeed.
You're ruining my trivia.
But that's fine because it's your show as well.
Yeah, the third one is quite loved in the horror community.
I edit it as well so I could just chop, I could literally just chop anything I want.
I could actually turn your words around and make you sound like any sort of person I'd like.
So you be careful what you say.
Never mess with the editor.
The third one is loved mainly because of one specific scene, but also because of a few little bits and bobs that go on in it.
But it is still a little bit of a mess of ideas, but quite loved in the horror community.
And the second one is one that you just don't really hear people talk about.
It was absolutely bombed.
There's a lot of backstory to the making of it and the mess that was going on behind the scenes and the alcoholism and stuff like that.
However, my card is slightly showing it.
I quite like Exorcist II The Heretic.
I agree it's a mess, but as I said to Gav of Mare, I feel it's a bit of a classy mess because it's a 70s movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about it.
It's my first viewing of it, so.
Oh wow.
Oh my God.
I didn't know that.
So I didn't come in there with it.
I came in here and everyone's saying how bad it was, but I know bad films.
This isn't a bad film.
This is still a well produced film in some departments, not all departments, you know.
Yeah.
Well, that's what we're covering.
So we're probably never going to cover any other Exorcist movies.
Let's be honest, they're not worth covering.
But I feel that these two are.
So we covered the first one many, many moons ago.
Yeah, because it's part four and five.
Five is a remix of four, supposedly.
So it's like.
I've seen them both.
OK.
Barely.
I have kind of seen them, but it's just a vague thing in my mind.
And I haven't seen the newest one with two girls, which I can't remember the name of it now.
Exorcist Believer or something like that.
Something like that.
I don't know.
Yeah, and that was slated.
That was by David Gordon Green, wasn't it?
David Gordon Green, who's apparently, well, I think you told me they're going to continue to make Exorcist films.
Well, the studio spent a hell of a lot of money acquiring the rights to the name and the franchise, so essentially, basically, you know, if you're putting your name on it, you're the same reason they did for Exorcist III.
It's a reason to get people in a seat.
So it's a validated reason, they think, because it's already got ticket sales because of the name Exorcist.
Unfortunately, they fucked up royally and probably didn't really think about it.
And at that point, David Gawne Green started to be a little bit disliked in the horror community, let alone the average community.
Hey, do you need someone to take up the Lovett franchise and then sort of make a really shit weird re-think of it?
We do live in a very fast social media.
So if you have a bunch of horror fans even just start saying, oh, it's bad, blah, blah, blah, that might trickle out into the mainstream, which might not be horror fans, but they might get wind of, oh, I heard that was pretty shit.
So, oh, OK, let's not watch that.
It's easy as that.
Well, I've got a good segue there to start off with what we've been watching, because, well, a double segue, if you're ready for a double segue.
Oh, that sounds like a position.
Are you ready for my double segue?
Are you ready for the double segue?
So, part A of my segue is The Exorcist II was a turkey in the box office, and David Gordon-Green should have stuck to what he knows, which is comedy, in my opinion.
So, well, here's my segue.
I watched a film related to turkeys where the director seems to have come back to doing what he was good at originally.
I'm talking about Thanksgiving by Eli Roth.
Oh, yes, yes.
It's fun, isn't it?
I had an absolute fucking blast with it.
Yeah, it's the dude that loves...
He grew up on 80s horror films, and it's his favorite, I think, 80s slashers, that Italian one, Pieces, you know?
And he loves that sort of stuff, so like him making that nowadays as well, and we kind of need it, don't we?
Oh, I was feeling a bit down.
It was Thanksgiving Day, not that we really celebrate it in the UK, and I thought, ah, I know what I'll watch this afternoon.
I just feel like watching that.
I watched it and I wasn't disappointed.
I actually gave it seven out of 10 on my first period.
That might come down when I watch it and pick it apart a little bit, but I thought it was funny.
It was original, but also was a nice homage to the 80s and some of the 90s stuff we were getting.
There was great kills in it, great practical effects, a real twist with the killer that I didn't see coming, to be honest.
I did.
I knew who the killer was.
Did you see that?
I didn't know it was going to be that.
Only because of...
Oh, I don't want to say it if you haven't seen it.
Only just because of who the actors were and stuff.
I kind of guessed from that, really.
But it was a really fun movie, and it made me hopeful that Eli Roth...
Because I do like Eli, and I didn't mind the green inferno, and some of the stuff he's done has been like...
Eli Roth's fine, absolutely is.
I've always, for the first time ever, saw him when he did his little, like filmed it on his phone or whatever, years ago for Cabin Fever premiere.
I didn't even know what the movie was or anything.
You just go to Fight Fest, you sit down.
The same as any film festival.
You don't know what you're going to watch, and then you sit down, watch the film, and he has a little introduction card.
And I was like, this dude loves fucking horror.
You could just tell how passionate this guy was.
But there's a couple of things, films are a little stinky.
But, you know, he's pretty good.
He's still a lover, you know.
Hostel is supposed to be getting a TV show.
Oh my god.
Like a series, he's producing it.
I just don't know if we need it.
I don't know, I'd probably be up for it.
I do like the hostel idea.
I love that, you know.
Well, before I go and let you talk about what you've been watching, I double-billed Thanksgiving, and I highly recommend it for anyone who hasn't seen it.
You know, don't expect it to change the game, but it's just fun and fun callback.
But on the same day, so Thanksgiving, I also watched a movie which is related to that theme, and that is Black Friday, which is...
It's brilliant.
Got Devon Sawyer and Bruce Campbell.
Oh no, sorry, I was thinking Black Christmas in my head.
No, no, no.
Devon Sawyer, it's got Michael Jai White, it's got Bruce Campbell, and a few other people that you might recognize in it.
And essentially, it's a bit like Intruder.
It's like a comedy version of The Mist, is another way of describing it.
Basically, a bunch of employees get trapped in a toy shop they work in on Black Friday when there's a riot outside for people trying to get in to get the cheap deals.
But there are zombies slash aliens, and it's practical effects.
It's Bruce Campbell being Bruce Campbell, but it's the best I've seen him in years.
And it was just really fun, cheap and cheerful movie.
It kind of like if The Void was a comedy.
So yeah, think of The Void, The Mist and Intruder, but make it a bit more funny and Chuck Bruce Campbell in it.
It wasn't quite as good as Thanksgiving.
And I know it hasn't got very good ratings.
It's actually only got 4.7 on-
Yeah, I watched it before, I wasn't-
It was a lot of fun.
It didn't take itself seriously.
It knew exactly what it was from the opening.
And for that, I was just like, great, this is exactly what I need.
So that was a great double bill for me on Thanksgiving.
I think it started off strong for me, that film.
And then just because I really did it like, you know, I like the-
There's a film like Intruder, which was in Bruce Campbell camp a long time ago, one of the filmmakers that he works with, which is the same-
That's why I said it, it's like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I do like that sort of idea in this, but yeah, and I like the practical effects in Bruce Campbell, but then something about it, I don't know, half a film went there.
I don't know, whatever reason, just-
The glue that held it together for me was the writing, because it was genuinely quite funny.
And although it was a bit cheap and cheerful at times, the delivery of everybody in it, everybody just seemed to be having a good time.
So, that was that for me.
But that was the first couple of things I've been watching, Gav.
What else, what have you been watching?
Well, it hasn't been long since we recorded, but over the weekend, I just was just with the kids, but wasn't with the kids, because they're starting to get to the age they don't really need me.
I'm just there for food or lifts or something like that, you know.
Yep, or money.
So I was just sitting in the living room waiting, like a butler, waiting.
Ding, ding!
Yes, sir, what is it you require?
I'm hungry!
Okay, sir.
That's basically my life's apparent nowadays.
Now I need a lift, Mr.
Uber Daddy.
I have the internet.
I don't need a father, but the internet cannot produce the food.
Well, it can.
Well, actually, it can do everything, but I don't have the money.
Anyway, so I watched a movie which kind of reminded me of American Wealth in Paris and Hostel, funny enough, which was Euro Trip.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I kind of watched that.
And I was like, I've never seen this before, because I was always like, I'm not going to watch this shit.
But it gets to that point nowadays, which takes me on to my next film.
Get to that point nowadays where Amazon produces all these, you're basically in the free video shop sitting in your pants at home, you know, and any of the videos, yeah, you pay a subscription, but any of the videos are essentially free.
You can just pick them up and watch them.
And there is free V and there is stuff.
There is free channels as well.
And even if they're not, it's like £1.99, £2.99 to rent sometimes.
Or even if you have to rent them, but there's so many libraries are so huge.
I've got Paramount at the moment as well, because my mum wanted to watch Yellowstone, so she could watch that.
And yeah, so you come across this, you're like, you're a stripper, it's like, it's going to be crap.
But nowadays, I kind of wouldn't mind a raunchy comedy thing from early 2000, because it's not going to be so bloody woke and they might say some shit which should make me laugh, do you know what I mean?
So it's nice to go back and re-visit, or not even re-visit, watch stuff that you didn't watch, which takes me on to a movie I'd never seen before, which was also on Paramount called Turbulence.
Never heard of it, and it sounded like a really cheap one, and I saw loads of those, like Turbulence, one, two, three, four, and there's like loads of them.
Anyway, this first movie is pretty decent, actually.
It's got a low rating and no one really thinks much of it, but I thought it was pretty decent.
Set on Christmas Eve, taking Ray Liotta, a prisoner, and I can't remember what the other dude was.
You know from movies, but there's loads of people in the movie which you're like, oh, what's that dude?
Oh, there's Agent Johnson from Die Hard, playing an agent again and loads of different people in the movie.
So you're like, oh, it's quite good.
And it was all right and Ray Liotta was there.
It was one that came out around sort of the speed.
It was that time of those sort of thrillers.
Yeah.
Yeah, action and thrillers, but something happening.
You know, with Ray Liotta being passed on nowadays, nowadays, now, find it moving and then watch that again.
I love because I love aeroplane thrillers.
I like that contained thing in this space, space in the air, which is just works really well.