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Nick Loudon (00:00)
It's another podcast that we have, not just the other ones. It's called The Real Podcast. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the break room. We are starting a series, okay? And I have decided that we're doing this. I haven't asked either of these two, but it's a series to test really everything about us and specifically these two titans, okay?
Corey Haines (00:03)
The third one.
Nick Loudon (00:28)
In one corner we have Corey Haynes, classic only child vibes, right? Yeah, even though he's not an only child. And then in the other corner we have Zach, alpha male, pit bull. You know what I'm talking about. And the thing that we're quizzing each of these people on, the thing that we're testing, we're putting them to the test on is how big of nerds they are.
Corey Haines (00:37)
Basically I'm-
Uh-huh.
Nick Loudon (00:57)
Corey and Zach both are self-proclaimed nerds in many fields. And so this is round one and it's really the Super Bowl for you two because we're talking about Star Wars. So a little pregame interview. Corey, how are you feeling? How do think you're going to stack up here to your opponent?
Corey Haines (01:09)
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure I already lost, but I think like just by a hair. Cause I already know I got one question wrong and it wouldn't surprise me if Zach got every single one right. Cause he has a more like photographic memory, you know, with like things and places and people and quotes and lyrics and, just like nouns in general. more, my memory is more like abstract. Yeah. It's more like concepts and equations.
Zach Stevens (01:21)
Yeah
Nick Loudon (01:23)
Okay.
He... No. It's a noun guy.
A concept. Abstract
memory. Okay, sweet. All right, Zach, how are you feeling?
Zach Stevens (01:51)
Well, I'm pretty sure that it could be classified as like with Asperger's or something like that if we, you know, put it to a test when it comes to things like movie quotes, song quotes, or just anything that has like a visual and audio component to it. Like it's pretty easy for me to remember that. So I think I'm, I think I'm okay.
Nick Loudon (02:09)
You think you're fine?
Okay, sweet.
Corey Haines (02:12)
sitting pretty.
Nick Loudon (02:14)
Okay, great. This is all great information. So full disclosure to anyone who dares listen to such a podcast. These two have already taken a quiz that I have crafted on Star Wars. So I'm just gonna do a couple questions and then we're gonna review the results and discuss who the winner is. They don't know what their scores are and I do.
Corey Haines (02:28)
I can't believe you put that together.
Nick Loudon (02:40)
So I get to like listen to them talk and hear this and that's the, it's really just, this is for me. Okay, so I want to know when both of you became obsessed with Star Wars and like, what was the thing? And I will personally judge whether or not that makes you more of a fan or not.
Zach Stevens (02:59)
Corey, go ahead.
Corey Haines (03:01)
Well, whenever it was that I saw one of the movies for the first time, I was immediately hooked and obsessed. I must've been like, I don't know, six or seven or something like that.
Nick Loudon (03:14)
Do know which movie it was? This isn't looking good,
Corey Haines (03:16)
I don't, I don't know which one
Zach Stevens (03:19)
Yeah.
Corey Haines (03:20)
it was. I know it was one of the old ones though. It's one of the originals. and
And then I, how about this? I think that it was probably like crystallized when I got my first Lego Star Wars set. That's when it was really like, dude, once I had a little Lego Jedi character with a lightsaber, it was over. That's all I cared about. Yeah.
Zach Stevens (03:38)
Hmm which was
Nick Loudon (03:38)
Hmm. You're.
Zach Stevens (03:44)
What did you get
Nick Loudon (03:44)
you were participating in the fight
Zach Stevens (03:47)
though
Nick Loudon (03:47)
against the Empire.
Zach Stevens (03:47)
specifically like like x-wing would you get the Lego set?
Corey Haines (03:51)
geez,
no idea. Probably.
Nick Loudon (03:53)
Dude, I had like a
hundred different Star Wars Lego sets. It'd be hard to pinpoint which one.
Corey Haines (03:56)
I know
I had like a Darth Vader that I loved. I had a few Luke Skywalker's. I had quite a few from.
Zach Stevens (04:05)
I mean like the ship because because
they all came with ships right or like or like a scene
Nick Loudon (04:07)
Do you remember what set they came in or what sets you might have
had?
Corey Haines (04:11)
Yeah, I was just going to say actually it's kind of coming back to me. So episode one, the Naboo star, star, star ship. I'm pretty sure like the yellow, like the gold and silver one or yellow and silver. I'm pretty sure that was the first one that I ever got with it. There was like a, a ship. Yeah, that I know. I know now would be like vintage. could probably sell it for like a thousand dollars, but I just probably like left it out in the dirt for too long.
Zach Stevens (04:19)
yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
Nick Loudon (04:28)
It's a great one. Yeah.
Zach Stevens (04:29)
That one's sick. That's super cool.
Mm-hmm.
Nick Loudon (04:36)
Yeah.
Zach Stevens (04:40)
And it had mismatched pieces. Corey probably added some other sets to it. I was like, well, what if I added these things on it? Yeah.
Corey Haines (04:42)
or just like repurposed it into something else.
Yeah, Frankenstein.
Nick Loudon (04:53)
I think my first one was like the Luke like speeder from the new hope like the first one that's just like it looks like a flat like like a piece of bread with a little thing. But you know the little thing. Yeah it's great. OK Zach can you tell me the moment you became obsessed or do you know the moment.
Zach Stevens (04:57)
Mm-hmm.
Corey Haines (04:59)
oooo
Zach Stevens (05:00)
Yeah, the Lance... The Lance-beater.
Here's,
that's the thing. I don't, I've just always known Star Wars. Like I don't have memories without Star Wars. I remember, I remember being, like, see my, we were in the apartment complex in Point Loma. And this was before my sister was born. So I was before five years old. I remember waking up.
Corey Haines (05:17)
Right.
Zach Stevens (05:35)
with my stormtrooper blaster going watching Star Wars out in the living room and firing at like all the stormtroopers like bam bam bam bam bam dead and killing every single one of them and never getting hit because stormtroopers can't name. And as far as which movie, as far as which movie it is, all three of them, the original trilogy like just kind of blend together in one. I don't remember a time where I didn't know that Darth Vader
Corey Haines (05:46)
you
Mm-hmm.
Nick Loudon (05:50)
notoriously.
All done.
Zach Stevens (06:04)
wasn't Luke Skywalker's father. Like I've just always, it's been a fact. Darth Vader might as well be my dad, cause like I just know he's Luke Skywalker's dad.
Corey Haines (06:13)
Daddy Vader.
Nick Loudon (06:14)
Your
dad didn't cut your hand off or anything?
Zach Stevens (06:18)
No, but I cut his hand off. I didn't do that, no.
Nick Loudon (06:21)
Okay, I was like,
big turn of events. Okay, sweet. So like, if you had to rank yourself against the other person, do you think you're more of a nerd at this in this topic than the other person? Zach.
Zach Stevens (06:39)
For Star
Wars? Yeah. Probably.
Nick Loudon (06:41)
Corey.
And I don't like forget about the quiz. mean, like, do you think that you're like, no, no, no, I am more obsessed and like, I know more in general. Sorry. Maybe I should have colored it more before Zach answered.
Zach Stevens (06:55)
Corey might know a little bit more like when it comes to books, like, because I never read any of the Star Wars books. Corey does. That's why he writes well.
Nick Loudon (07:01)
Who reads, dude? Reading is dumb.
Corey Haines (07:03)
Mm-mm.
Zach Stevens (07:08)
But I've done stuff like I watched an entire History Channel special on the mythology behind Star Wars and the mechanics of Star Wars and stuff like that, which I found absolutely fascinating. I loved, like the movies themselves, I could go down some serious rabbit holes on what they mean and the significance of some of the things, but more how it pertains to things outside of Star Wars, if that makes sense.
Corey Haines (07:33)
Wait, I have a very
important question for Zach. This could actually, this could change the whole, this could change everything.
Zach Stevens (07:41)
Turn the tide.
Corey Haines (07:42)
This could
turn the tide. Zach, have you seen the Clone Wars series?
Nick Loudon (07:44)
Let's see.
Zach Stevens (07:47)
I've only seen bits and pieces of it. I haven't watched the whole thing. I know it's fantastic. The only one that I've watched? Which one? Which one? The 3D series? The 3D series? Or did you watch the OG 2D one as well?
Nick Loudon (07:50)
You
Corey Haines (07:51)
Dude,
I'm the bigger nerd, obviously. It's clear now. I knew it. Dude, there's six seasons.
Nick Loudon (07:54)
Hehehehehe
Corey Haines (08:06)
Also watched that one. Yeah, but I mean, I mean the animated Clone Wars series, like that was for kids that they ended up making for adults basically.
Nick Loudon (08:06)
He probably watched both. Yeah.
Zach Stevens (08:08)
Okay, then yeah.
Yeah.
So the thing is like, know enough about them. Like I know that all of it kind of predicates around Mandalore and like there's the battle for Mandalore. What? Yeah. Clone Wars does it. That's where the entire culmination is.
Corey Haines (08:22)
No no no no, well...
Nick Loudon (08:25)
Okay, well this isn't a debate.
Corey Haines (08:26)
In like the second half.
No, but listen, listen, listen. Here's the reason why I ask is because I actually think that the Clone Wars series is the most like detailed, like you get the most Star Wars content and lore of anything else in Star Wars. That show like just has so much, so many like deep cuts and so much backstory and so many characters.
and so many things that happen, especially in such a critical time that connect episodes two and three, that like, it's crazy that you haven't because I just feel like you're missing so much.
Zach Stevens (09:01)
Mm-hmm.
I don't feel like I need to though, that's the thing. Like, I feel like I could...
Nick Loudon (09:11)
Say love you.
Corey Haines (09:13)
I didn't either. And then I watched
it and I was like, I knew nothing before this.
Zach Stevens (09:17)
Okay, let's move on to the quiz line.
Nick Loudon (09:21)
Okay, give me a
second. that's your answer, Corey, is you do think you are a bigger nerd because you have more of the like, not just the main line, main series.
Corey Haines (09:34)
Well,
here's the thing.
Zach Stevens (09:36)
I consider...Cloamores
is definitely mainline canon. For sure.
Nick Loudon (09:40)
I mean, like, guess
Corey Haines (09:41)
Yeah, that's
like.
Nick Loudon (09:41)
the like widely, like everyone's seen these six movies or nine movies or whatever, like because you've watched more of the other stuff.
Corey Haines (09:45)
Right, right, right. That's what I was gonna say. If we're taking
like episodes one through six, Zach's definitely a bigger nerd, like knows it better through and through, can quote it, know, lives and breathes it. I'm more like, you take the whole Star Wars universe as a whole. And I think like I have that, I think I have like 95 % of people beat who would consider themselves like a Star Wars nerd.
Also considering that I've read a ton of books, I've watched every like behind the scenes thing. I've read a book about how they made the original trilogy. You know, those types of things are like a little bit more expansive. I'm more like a mile wide and inch deep and Zach's more a mile deep and inch wide. And more ways than one.
Nick Loudon (10:38)
The whole time we were talking to that, was just
thinking like, this is like a pitch for why you shouldn't reproduce.
Corey Haines (10:44)
You alright?
Nick Loudon (10:47)
Which is it, I don't feel that way, but you know what I'm saying. I was just like, this is so funny. Okay. Well, I have the scores. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The Clone Wars. problem is that the quiz that I created didn't include anything from the Clone Wars, I don't think. It was more like general, like knowledge that anybody who gets into Star Wars could probably ascertain.
Corey Haines (10:54)
Clone Wars though.
People, come on, comment in the chat.
Right, right, that's okay. Yeah, because it's not...
Mm-hmm.
Nick Loudon (11:16)
or obtain or I don't know the right word there. Okay, so, but you do think that you've lost when it comes to the quiz. Are you guys ready for your scores?
Corey Haines (11:24)
Yeah, I'm like 99 % sure.
Zach Stevens (11:29)
Now you're making me second guess. Let's just hear it out.
Nick Loudon (11:33)
Okay, I'm
going to read the first score out of 20 points. It's from Zach. Out of 20. No, no, no, no, no. It's 20. It's out of 20. You didn't get 20. I didn't say that, did I? I said out of 20.
Zach Stevens (11:40)
out of how many.
Hey, all right.
Nick Loudon (11:53)
You got 16.
Zach Stevens (11:56)
Really interesting.
Corey Haines (11:57)
Wow.
Nick Loudon (12:00)
Corey out of 20, 13. yeah, big. Okay, cool. I will tell you which ones you missed. Do you want to know which ones you missed? Okay, Corey, let's do Zach's first, cause there's less. The first one that you missed.
Corey Haines (12:04)
Ooh, ouch, that's embarrassing. Ooh.
Zach Stevens (12:09)
Womp, womp, womp.
Corey Haines (12:11)
Really,
I missed seven? That's crazy. Yeah, of course.
Zach Stevens (12:20)
Hahaha
Nick Loudon (12:24)
Zach is before being called Luke Skywalker, this character had another name. You put Luke Starkiller, it's actually Anakin Starkiller. Sorry, Anakin Starkiller was the original name that they were going to use. There's some debate because it was like, well, the last name is so similar that they interplayed them together like, Luke Starkiller or Luke Skywalker. But really the original version was Anakin Starkiller, apparently.
Zach Stevens (12:28)
Luke Starkiller.
Corey Haines (12:33)
it was Anakin.
Yep.
Zach Stevens (12:54)
Did you spell Anakin correctly in that?
Nick Loudon (12:56)
That is how it was spelled when I found this question and typed it in. So I just went with that.
Zach Stevens (12:59)
Okay.
Corey Haines (13:02)
That threw me off too. I should have known that
because I read that in this book about how they made their original trilogy. And he talks about writing the manuscript. And I think actually Kane was one of the other options that he was considering. So I couldn't remember which one it was.
Nick Loudon (13:16)
There's some Kane in the Star Wars world too, I don't know who it is.
Corey Haines (13:19)
It
might have been his dad, actually, like in the original, like Darth Vader wasn't his dad, and Kane was his dad, and Darth Vader kills his dad, Kane. Anyways.
Nick Loudon (13:32)
Other question you missed. Who wiped out all the information about Kamino from the Jedi temple archives? You answer Qui-Gon Jinn. Correct answer, Count Dooku. Yeah. So I'm assuming Corey got that one right.
Zach Stevens (13:40)
Is it Dooku? okay.
Corey Haines (13:41)
Dooku.
Qui-Gon Jinn? Are you
saying he's a... he's a freaking Sith?
Zach Stevens (13:49)
No, I'm just saying that he had ties to Count Dooku and was his apprentice as, yeah.
Nick Loudon (13:51)
He and to Camino.
Corey Haines (13:56)
Yeah, but...
Nick Loudon (13:56)
That's that I actually added the so these these ones I I picked the like alternate what.
Corey Haines (14:02)
Wait,
this one is perfect because in the Clone Wars, they go through all of this and it's all about how Count Dooku impersonates, what's his name, Saifu? No, so yeah, Saifu Diaz. basically, yeah, the whole, nevermind, just.
Zach Stevens (14:08)
That's what they discuss.
Nick Loudon (14:10)
So he knew.
Zach Stevens (14:16)
Safe, safe ideas.
Nick Loudon (14:26)
I, this one, I came up with the multiple choice. So I just had the question and the answer and I was like, who's going to cause the most confusion when I threw Qui-Gon in at the end? Cause I figured it would get somebody. Where were the Hoth sequences of the movie filmed? This one I thought was really difficult too. added Greenland in there to throw people off, but it is not Greenland. It's Norway. Norway is the correct answer.
Corey Haines (14:35)
Hahaha
Zach Stevens (14:37)
you
Mm.
Corey Haines (14:48)
Norway. Also
read it in my book.
Nick Loudon (14:53)
Okay, Corey got all the easy ones wrong.
Zach Stevens (14:53)
Okay, 13 points.
Corey Haines (14:55)
Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. My memory
is not a conventional memory.
Nick Loudon (15:02)
This was probably my favorite question. In the Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon uses a communicator that is actually a real purpose object. What was it originally? You put garage door opener. The answer is a Gillette sensor Excel razor. It's a Gillette razor that like button clicks and talks into.
Zach Stevens (15:09)
yeah.
Corey Haines (15:16)
I don't even know what that is.
you're right, guess. Is it kind of silvery? It is, isn't it?
Zach Stevens (15:20)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (15:24)
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I think that's all of them for you. Let me see if Corey got any wrong that weren't. yeah. Corey missed. What type of droid is BB8? You put protocol droid. He is an astromech droid.
Corey Haines (15:31)
I also missed that one.
He's not an astromech droid. That's stupid. Okay, but
Zach Stevens (15:43)
He's definitely not a protocol droid.
Nick Loudon (15:44)
Okay.
Yeah.
Zach Stevens (15:48)
Shut up, you're wrong.
Corey Haines (15:48)
but R2-D2
is an astromech.
Nick Loudon (15:52)
I don't know what to tell you.
Zach Stevens (15:52)
BB-8s and Astromech.
Corey Haines (15:53)
Astromechs
have the legs and they're supposed to be able to never mind. They have the little appendages and
Zach Stevens (15:57)
That's not true. They don't have to
Nick Loudon (15:59)
is
Zach Stevens (15:59)
have legs. is, BB has those.
Nick Loudon (16:02)
Yes, BB-8 is an astromech droid from the Star Wars franchise.
Corey Haines (16:02)
BB-8 is a rolling ball.
Zach Stevens (16:05)
He doesn't have, he doesn't
have, he doesn't have legs, but he has the like, he has a little flame flower thing that he does though. Yeah. He just doesn't have.
Corey Haines (16:10)
Yeah, I felt like it was too easy.
was like, Astromech, no, he's got to be something else.
Nick Loudon (16:16)
I thought scout droid was going to get somebody, but I don't even know what that is.
Zach Stevens (16:21)
That doesn't exist.
Corey Haines (16:21)
think it's a thing.
Zach Stevens (16:21)
Well, a scout droid would be something like a, like in the Empire Strikes Back, the, the scout droids that go to Hoth. Like that'd be the, that'd be what those are. And it's like, he's not one of those.
Nick Loudon (16:32)
Okay, the little
you also missed the what was Luke Skywalker's original name you put Kane Starkiller
Corey Haines (16:39)
Mm-hmm.
Nick Loudon (16:42)
original, this one was bad, original Star Wars movie, A New Hope was released in what year? You put 1974. The answer is 77. To be fair, this one had multiple choices when I found, I was just like, let me just find as many questions as I can and pick the ones that I think are best. The multiple choices on when it gave it the question to me were like.
Corey Haines (16:45)
Yeah
Zach Stevens (16:46)
1977.
Corey Haines (16:51)
Yep.
Nick Loudon (17:04)
2002 and like 1932 and I was like none of these are going to be picked so I changed them all to be like really close to the answer to throw people off and it worked
Zach Stevens (17:14)
you would know that if you watched the the special edition VHS release where they say in 1977 George Lucas created like a whole new world and that line has always stuck with me it was like in 1977 George Lucas
Corey Haines (17:23)
wow.
Ha
Nick Loudon (17:30)
You'll never forget. You missed, how old was Padme when she was elected Queen of Naboo? You put 12. The answer is 14.
Corey Haines (17:31)
That's funny.
That was an option?
Nick Loudon (17:43)
Yeah, 12, 14, 18, 20.
Corey Haines (17:47)
Oh, I thought. Did you put like a randomizer because I just saw like 12? I remember 1218 and then like 2022 or something like that. Oh, I thought 12 was a little young, but I was like, OK, I guess it's 12. Hello, OK, maybe.
Nick Loudon (17:59)
No, they're the same. I just put them in and...
There's a 14 in there.
Who said, don't frighten, don't try to frighten us with your sorceress ways Lord Vader. You put Princess Leia. The answer, the answer is Admiral Moti. I don't didn't know he had a name.
Corey Haines (18:20)
don't even know who that is.
Zach Stevens (18:22)
He's the
guy that Vader, like it's the first time you see the, no, not the raise up, just like the slight, the, I find your lack of faith disturbing. That one. So to be fair, I don't know if you would count this as cheating on that one. I didn't know who Admiral Moti was, so I just checked to see, I wanted to see who his face was. I knew who said it, I was like, it's the guy who gets choked like this.
Corey Haines (18:33)
Yes, he's one of the other admirals. Right, right, right.
Nick Loudon (18:45)
So you've it up.
Zach Stevens (18:51)
And then when I saw his face, like, that's him, that one.
Nick Loudon (18:53)
It's cheating, but you still win. in a new hope, this is the one that another one Corey missed, in a new hope, the Death Star Schematics show an opening leading to its reactor core. According to the rebel intelligence, what was the precise size of that opening? You put one meter wide, the answer, two meters wide. No, it's two.
Corey Haines (18:54)
I wouldn't have known, yeah.
Zach Stevens (18:56)
Okay, fine by me. Not.
Corey Haines (19:13)
1.5, two, oh, the 1.5 really threw me off.
Zach Stevens (19:17)
No bigger than
Womp Rats. They're about two meters.
Corey Haines (19:23)
Six feet? That's crazy. A womp rat?
Zach Stevens (19:24)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
Corey Haines (19:27)
Thanks, son.
Nick Loudon (19:28)
and then the
last one you missed was also one that Zach missed about the communicator being a real world object. You also put garage door opener. The answer is a Gillette sensor, Excel razor. okay. So the question is really how we're going to use this information. I think, I do think that we have to take the quantifiable data that we have, which is my subjective decision of
Corey Haines (19:35)
Mm-hmm.
That's funny.
That one wasn't in my book.
Nick Loudon (19:57)
Who gets the most questions right and I pick the questions But I think Zach is gonna win round one. Maybe we'll do a different another Variation of Star Wars on a different round that encompasses other things But I don't know how many rounds we're gonna do but I will decide when it's over and who is the bigger nerd and you Will get a reward and that is we will give you a what's that thing where they put your head in the toilet and they flush it
Corey Haines (19:57)
You
Zach Stevens (20:28)
swirly gosh no wait the winner so this is gonna come down this is gonna come down to Lord of the Rings knowledge and Star Wars knowledge most likely so what should happen is it if Corey wins he should be able to buy using conversion factory money a replica of Andoril and then I get to buy and if I win I get to buy a Darth Vader lightsaber replica and we'll hang it in the background of the podcast
Nick Loudon (20:29)
You'll get a swirly as reward.
Corey Haines (20:39)
Yeah.
haha
You
Nick Loudon (20:57)
Sweet. I'm gonna throw like we'll do other rounds that aren't just Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. We're gonna do, I would like to do like retro video game quiz knowledge, stuff like that. Something really left field where most people will get a bunch of things wrong, but I want you guys to test it out. Do either of you, did either of you play Pokemon when you were kids?
Zach Stevens (21:09)
Hmm.
Corey Haines (21:12)
That's a good one.
Zach Stevens (21:22)
Not heavily. I had a lot of the cards though. Like I collected the cards.
Nick Loudon (21:24)
You guys aren't nerds, dude.
You guys are nerds. Okay, I forget it.
Corey Haines (21:30)
Yeah, I never got into
it. I know. I'll quiz you two on that.
Nick Loudon (21:33)
okay, sweet.
Yeah, that sounds great. I played a lot of Pokemon as a kid. okay. Congratulations, Zach on winning round one and we will see you guys on the next episode.
Corey Haines (21:43)
Well done.
Zach Stevens (21:46)
May the force be with you.
Nick Loudon (21:47)
Do you guys like this? I, is it good that I'm doing this? As the warmup? I thought it was a good idea. It's just.
Corey Haines (21:48)
You
Yeah, I think it was fun.
Zach Stevens (21:57)
Mm-hmm. Warm-ups are warm-ups,
dude. Like, they're supposed to be... There are no wrong answers to it.
Corey Haines (22:03)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (22:03)
was like, let me grab this warmup by the balls and just do something more different.
Zach Stevens (22:08)
The only thing we have to consider is just length of time. That's the only thing that we need to be aware of.
Nick Loudon (22:14)
think what was, how long has it been? Where's the, is there a button that tells us?
Zach Stevens (22:17)
There's 24 minutes total right now, but 10 of that was easily us just like shooting the breeze before we started. So we're chilling.
Nick Loudon (22:23)
Yeah, I think 10 to
25 minutes is fine anywhere in there is probably chill. 10 to 20. Okay, sweet.
Corey Haines (22:27)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.