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CES 2026 is here, NVIDIA's Alpamayo AI taking centerstage with its autonomous driving and its potential to challenge Tesla. 

We discuss NVIDIA’s unfathomable Rubin chip, OpenAI's ChatGPT Health, and Anthropic's astronomic valuation with it's recent raise.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 CES 2026
6:17 Nvidia FSD
9:13 Rubin GPU
17:08 CES Inventions
21:53 ChatGPT Health
30:19 Anthropic Raise
34:05 Closing

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Josh:
Welcome back to the AI Roundup, the first of the year in 2026.

Josh:
And the first year of every year always comes with a lot of excitement,

Josh:
for me at least, because it is the biggest consumer electronic show in the world.

Josh:
In fact, that's what it's called.

Josh:
CES 2026 has come, it is on the way out. And there have been some pretty amazing

Josh:
announcements that have come out of it.

Josh:
But through all of these amazing announcements, it has become increasingly clear

Josh:
that almost every CES now should just be rebranded to the NVIDIA show.

Josh:
NVIDIA is releasing the coolest, most badass

Josh:
technology every year jensen shows up with this like really

Josh:
fancy shiny alligator leather jacket and he just drops the

Josh:
most honestly the most groundbreaking new technology that

Josh:
we've ever seen and this year is no different there are two major announcements

Josh:
he made one around full self driving the other around their new chip architecture

Josh:
and then also this week on the roundup we have a few other updates one of them

Josh:
being open ai's new health application are you going to give them all of your

Josh:
health data do you want them to know everything about you we'll get into that but Ijaz,

Josh:
I want to start with the autonomous car situation because as a Tesla diehard,

Josh:
as someone who has been driven around autonomously for the last X amount of years,

Josh:
what's going on with nvidia and their attempt at doing this because it feels

Josh:
like if nvidia puts their mind to something normally they can do it and this

Josh:
is the first real attempt i've seen at someone else who doesn't actually manufacture

Josh:
the car trying to build some sort of full self-driving technology i

Ejaaz:
Don't think you need to start selling your tesla shares just yet but it's something

Ejaaz:
to be uh aware of um okay what is it just an yeah so they announced this uh

Ejaaz:
new self-driving ai model called Alper Mayo.

Ejaaz:
And in Jensen's words himself, it's the world's first thinking,

Ejaaz:
reasoning, autonomous vehicle AI.

Ejaaz:
And he's launching it on US roads as soon as Q1 of this year with Mercedes CLA

Ejaaz:
cars, which is going to be like an insane turnaround time.

Ejaaz:
He says it's trained end to end, literally from camera in to actuation out.

Ejaaz:
It reasons what action it's about to take, the reason by which it came about

Ejaaz:
that action and the trajectory.

Ejaaz:
If this sounds similar to end-to-end neural net, which is exactly what Tesla

Ejaaz:
FSD is, you would be correct. That's basically what he's built with Alpameo.

Ejaaz:
It's a vision language action model, which takes in a lot of data via different

Ejaaz:
types of sensors, such as cameras, kind of barometers, stuff like that.

Ejaaz:
And it feeds it into the neural net and judges what to do in a particular scenario.

Ejaaz:
But it's not just one model, Josh. There's a few other aspects to it,

Ejaaz:
such as simulation testing,

Ejaaz:
which is also what Tesla FSD does to kind of generate different types of hypothetical

Ejaaz:
ways to deal with a particular scenario on a car so that it can judge and reason

Ejaaz:
to kind of do the right type of action, whether to decelerate,

Ejaaz:
accelerate, change steering, etc.

Ejaaz:
Now, the main core difference between what NVIDIA has built here versus Tesla

Ejaaz:
FSD is that he's not building the actual car.

Ejaaz:
In fact, he doesn't want to go anywhere near it. He's not going to be building

Ejaaz:
any of the sensors either.

Ejaaz:
What he's proposing here is the end-to-end model itself that you can retrofit into a car.

Ejaaz:
And the first brand that he's working with is Mercedes to achieve this.

Josh:
What I like about this is that NVIDIA, in a way, they're kind of acting like

Josh:
Apple, where Apple normally kind of sits on their hands, lets the fields play

Josh:
out, decides what the winning strategy is, and then goes all in on that.

Josh:
We had really Waymo and Google and Tesla kind of competing on these different

Josh:
types of way that you could train it. One was hard-coded, one was neural nets.

Josh:
It became clear that the convergence was on neural nets. And that's what NVIDIA

Josh:
did is they built this architecture just for that.

Josh:
What I find interesting is that this is kind of like Apple CarPlay,

Josh:
but for full self-driving, where Apple doesn't make any cars and yet their software

Josh:
is prevalent in every single car that's basically made in the US today because everyone has an iPhone.

Josh:
Well, NVIDIA is doing the same thing, but for full self-driving where they're

Josh:
not going to actually try to manufacture these cars.

Josh:
Like you said, they're just going to license them to other dealers like Mercedes

Josh:
using this thing called Drive Hyperion, which is this reference architecture.

Josh:
And it's built on the standardized sensor set. And one thing that I found interesting

Josh:
with the sensor set is how

Josh:
Detailed it was, how much there was going on in this, included but not limited

Josh:
to 14 cameras, nine radars, one LiDAR, 12 ultrasonic sensors, and a microphone array.

Josh:
So this is a full stack suite of tools that they're giving to car companies

Josh:
like Mercedes to do whatever they want with it.

Josh:
And notably, it's funny that the ratio of LiDARs to cameras is like 0.75.

Josh:
There's still a lot of LiDAR built into this. So it's interesting to see someone

Josh:
who feels like they actually have a chance at competing with Tesla in the world of autonomy.

Josh:
This is the first real threat that I think exists.

Josh:
Not to say that it's a real threat just yet, because they have a long way to

Josh:
go before they reach the 84 billion miles or whatever it is that Tesla has of training data.

Josh:
But they're on their way, and this is the correct approach to do it.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, it's interesting. We were watching the CES Q&A after this announcement,

Ejaaz:
and someone actually asked him, like, is this a direct competitor to Tesla FSD?

Ejaaz:
And Jensen starts of the response with saying like, hey, listen,

Ejaaz:
Tesla is an amazing company, blah, blah, blah.

Ejaaz:
And then he says Alpameo was designed around a different kind of idea.

Ejaaz:
The first difference being that NVIDIA doesn't want to actually build the self-driving

Ejaaz:
cars, which is the point that we just mentioned, but he wants to build the full

Ejaaz:
stack of technology for everyone else that is trying to build self-driving cars.

Ejaaz:
So reinforcing the point that he just wants to be around the software and maybe

Ejaaz:
some of the sensor stack, but otherwise it's on the car producers themselves

Ejaaz:
to kind of manufacture the actual vehicle itself.

Ejaaz:
And this is an interesting strategy because you could argue that like Tesla

Ejaaz:
has easy scalability because they've built their product end to end,

Ejaaz:
right? And they're churning it out of their factories.

Ejaaz:
Kind of refactored the dye architecture so that they can kind of pump these

Ejaaz:
cars out once an hour or whatever.

Ejaaz:
And NVIDIA is kind of taking a different approach where they're like,

Ejaaz:
okay, we'll just let every single other car manufacturer do this and we'll retrofit

Ejaaz:
with our own kind of model. So I like the approach that they're taking.

Ejaaz:
And I don't know if you saw this as well, Josh, but kind of within all the CES

Ejaaz:
announcements, Uber and Lucid announced that they were also going to launch

Ejaaz:
an autonomous vehicle fleet or network system.

Ejaaz:
So every single car company is kind of veering towards doing this.

Ejaaz:
And I think NVIDIA kind of pitching the software play, like the Apple CarPlay

Ejaaz:
analogy that you just used, it's actually a really, really smart one.

Ejaaz:
Because if this ends up kind of like, if they end up signing like all the right

Ejaaz:
partnerships with the right kinds of car makers, they could end up with the

Ejaaz:
same amount of data and therefore as good a model as Tesla does in fewer years

Ejaaz:
that Tesla's taken to get to the standard that they are at right now.

Josh:
And it's funny, it's not like companies haven't tried to do this.

Josh:
I mean, Rivian's tried full self-driving Ford, Chevy, a whole bunch of companies have tried.

Josh:
They just can't figure it out. So NVIDIA is like, okay, well,

Josh:
clearly there's a huge market demand. We're going to step in to fill this.

Josh:
And to me, it feels like, I mean, they are the NVIDIA, but of the full self-driving industry.

Josh:
Whereas you could kind of compare Tesla to Google, where they own the entire

Josh:
stack. They own the chip architecture. They own the training. They own everything.

Josh:
NVIDIA is just the pick and shovel salesman. They're like, hey,

Josh:
if you want to sell a car, you're going to need to have it fully autonomously. Yeah.

Josh:
You're going to want our software. And this is actually, I mean,

Josh:
people will view this as a threat to Tesla, but a lot of people don't know that

Josh:
Tesla open sourced all of their patents for any other car manufacturer to use from day one.

Josh:
The problem is just, it's incredibly difficult to do these things.

Josh:
So it's not like Tesla has not wanted the industry to keep up because the mission

Josh:
is to move the whole world forward.

Josh:
It's just that no one actually took them up on this and use the patents to actually

Josh:
build something meaningful.

Josh:
So Nvidia came along, they're building the picks and shovels and they're doing

Josh:
it at scale, right? Like a significant percentage of the company has now shifted to

Ejaaz:
Work 20 yeah 7 000 people so

Ejaaz:
20 of nvidia employees are now going to be working um

Ejaaz:
you know monday to friday and probably on the weekends uh for

Ejaaz:
the foreseeable future and that is just like a huge signal that

Ejaaz:
jensen thinks that this is one of the most important industries to win he said

Ejaaz:
multiple times during ces that he thinks robotics is undeniably going to be

Ejaaz:
the future and the next industry to face a chat gpt like moment um and so he

Ejaaz:
thinks that with this bet it's going to be autonomous cars that kind of like flag the play first,

Ejaaz:
it's interesting I saw yeah I saw a response from Elon here because someone

Ejaaz:
asked him like hey Elon do you see this as kind of like a threat the way that

Ejaaz:
I kind of think about this is that it's not really a threat because,

Ejaaz:
whilst NVIDIA is kind of like creating a software that is 95% as good,

Ejaaz:
the extra 5% takes years and years to actually improve.

Ejaaz:
And Elon replies, you know what, you're right, the actual time from when FSD

Ejaaz:
sort of works to where it is much safer than a human is several years.

Ejaaz:
So maybe this is a competitive pressure on Tesla in five or six years, but probably longer.

Ejaaz:
So Elon's probably, you know, saying this for public opinion,

Ejaaz:
but he doesn't see it generally as a threat.

Ejaaz:
And to your point around like the Google full stack architecture,

Ejaaz:
I think Tesla still very much has the moat right now.

Josh:
Yeah, and they'll win on the margins. I mean, no one's going to be able to create

Josh:
a lower cost per kilometer for traveling if you don't own the whole stack than Tesla will.

Josh:
So it is good that, I think it's a net positive for the world.

Josh:
It is slightly negative for Tesla, but not in a meaningful way.

Josh:
Both of these companies are going to do excellent. And we probably should get

Josh:
into the other excellent thing that was announced from NVIDIA this week,

Josh:
which is probably even bigger than the full stuff. of drawing architecture,

Josh:
that is their new Vera Rubin chip, which Ejaz, I know you were looking at this.

Josh:
I was taking a peek. This chip is incredible.

Josh:
It's like outrageous how meaningfully an impact this will have on the world

Josh:
of AI training. Some fun facts just to get started.

Josh:
Hopper was the first major chip that was being trained that was from NVIDIA.

Josh:
They went from Hopper to Blackwell. That was a 10% or sorry,

Josh:
a 10x energy efficiency improvement.

Josh:
And then from Blackwell to what we have today, Vera Rubin, is another 10x improvement.

Josh:
So we have two orders of magnitude energy efficiency in addition to other crazy

Josh:
stats like Rubin, the GPU is now five times faster than just the previous generation

Josh:
of Blackwell, but it only has 1.6 times the amount of transistors.

Josh:
So they've managed to squeeze a tremendous amount of compute,

Josh:
energy efficiency, and also ease of integration. If you remember,

Josh:
the Hopper chips from Hopper to Blackwell was a really nasty transition period

Josh:
because the whole architecture was different.

Josh:
So you had to rip out the guts of the

Josh:
entire data center, rewire all the electricity, rewire all the cooling.

Josh:
What's nice about this is it's a hot swap. It's easy. You just pull one out,

Josh:
you pop one in, and you're on your way.

Josh:
And what's also interesting about this new chip is this is one of the most amazing

Josh:
things to me is the cooling, how they cool this thing.

Josh:
So with Blackwell, they had a lot of these tubes and wires that would run through

Josh:
that would cool it with liquid.

Josh:
They still have liquid cooling, but there's no more tubes or wires hanging out of this thing.

Josh:
And the water required to cool it can be, I think, 115 degrees Fahrenheit.

Josh:
It's too hot. So they're cooling these GPUs with hot water now because they're so efficient.

Ejaaz:
Doesn't make sense.

Josh:
So now, this is huge for cost per token. If you want to generate more tokens

Josh:
at a lower cost. This is great for training. I mean, Ruben across the board seems incredible.

Ejaaz:
And Josh, it's four times cheaper when it comes to inference costs as well. That's what it is.

Josh:
Four times.

Ejaaz:
That's huge. It's insane. So to put this into context for listeners and viewers

Ejaaz:
here, this kind of a jump between one GPU model to the next is unprecedented. entered.

Ejaaz:
Usually you'll get like a 2x better performance output. To get a 5x,

Ejaaz:
you must have done something different here, right?

Ejaaz:
And the answer is they did.

Ejaaz:
So typically when you refactor a GPU for the next version, which is what they've

Ejaaz:
done from Blackwell to Vera Rubin, you kind of have six components in your AI

Ejaaz:
chip architecture, right?

Ejaaz:
It's not just the GPU that you want to refactor it's the

Ejaaz:
software components it's the cpu that helps orchestrate and

Ejaaz:
help these gpus kind of like talk to each other it's how

Ejaaz:
you stack these gpus together you'll notice in the tweet that we

Ejaaz:
just had up here i'll show it right here um jensen huang

Ejaaz:
talks about a rubin pod which consists of 1152 gpus 16 racks of these gpus stacked

Ejaaz:
together which if you stack this together in this pod gives you the best performance

Ejaaz:
output the performance output and metrics that josh and i just covered right

Ejaaz:
um what nvidia did was they rebuilt.

Ejaaz:
From scratch, all six of these components to build out this pod, Josh.

Ejaaz:
So it wasn't just the GPU architecture.

Ejaaz:
It wasn't just kind of like neatly fitting in a bunch of transistors in a much more impactful way.

Ejaaz:
They refactored the central processing unit, so the CPU, the graphics processing

Ejaaz:
unit, the MVLink 6 switch, which is what helps the software communicate between

Ejaaz:
the CPU and the GPUs, and a bunch of other Ethernet cables.

Ejaaz:
You'll notice the Spectrum 6 Ethernet switch as well.

Ejaaz:
So the point I'm saying here is they did something unprecedented and rebuilt

Ejaaz:
everything, all six components from scratch, which is what led to this massive, massive jump.

Ejaaz:
And it's just like crazy to kind of see some of the takeaways here.

Ejaaz:
So there's a summary here where Rohan over here goes, NVIDIA rolled out six

Ejaaz:
new chips under the Rubin platform.

Ejaaz:
And one highlight is the Vira Rubin Superchip, which pairs one Vira CPU with

Ejaaz:
two Rubin GPUs on a single processor. Now, if none of that is making sense,

Ejaaz:
the summary is here where it talks about the Rubin pod and I mentioned that.

Ejaaz:
Now, they haven't released pricing for this thing.

Ejaaz:
But let's conservatively take the cost of a Blackwell GPU, which was between $35,000 to $40,000.

Ejaaz:
I'm going to take the high-end estimate of that. If we factor in the number

Ejaaz:
of GPUs in this pod, which is 1,152, that comes out at $46 million for the cost of this entire pod.

Ejaaz:
So if you're an AI lab or a startup, God forbid, that's trying to enter this

Ejaaz:
market with the best of the best GPUs, you're going to need to fork out 46 to

Ejaaz:
get some of the best metrics ever.

Ejaaz:
So this will continue to be a game played by very big hyperscalers and big AI

Ejaaz:
labs like Google, OpenAI and XAI, which are securing majority of the capacity so far.

Josh:
But you know why that price doesn't matter at all is because the constraint isn't dollars.

Josh:
The constraint is energy. So they could probably charge double for that rack.

Josh:
And there will still be no shortage of demand because, again,

Josh:
that energy constraint means everything. And when you look at the performance

Josh:
per watt of a Vera Rubin rack versus a black hole rack, it is that multiple,

Josh:
would you say four times multiple?

Josh:
That is worth so much money because you are limited in energy.

Josh:
That you cannot make more of.

Josh:
But now you can get four times the amount of compute for the same energy.

Josh:
That is worth more than any amount of dollars you can possibly spend.

Josh:
Like they will spend infinite money to get that efficiency.

Josh:
And that's why this chip is going to do so good. Another really interesting

Josh:
fact for those who don't really spend their life in this world,

Josh:
think of the internet, how much global bandwidth the entire internet uses every single day.

Josh:
One of these racks moves 240 terabits per second, which is equivalent to twice

Josh:
the entire global internet bandwidth in one rack, double.

Josh:
So this is a tremendous amount of compute that we're talking about,

Josh:
and it is all powered by NVIDIA.

Josh:
Now, you just, if you scroll down to the first reply here on this post,

Josh:
it's from none other than our good pal Elon Musk, who says this will probably

Josh:
take about nine months or so before the hardware is operational at scale.

Josh:
And this is an important thing to note.

Josh:
Because to move from Hopper to Blackwell, it took like 16, 18 months.

Josh:
And we had this weird lull period where there wasn't a lot of progress on the hardware front.

Josh:
The progress came from software. So this is when we started to get these chain

Josh:
of thought and these reasoning breakthroughs that kind of held us through that

Josh:
lull period between Hopper to Blackwell.

Josh:
What we're getting now is we're just starting to feel the effects of Blackwell.

Josh:
And then we have this nine-month period until Vera Rubin. So there should be

Josh:
this weird lull period where we're starting to see what happens with Blackwell,

Josh:
but we're not actually gonna feel the effects of this new chip until probably the end of this year.

Josh:
So I would say if we're gonna get AGI, it's gonna come from these chips.

Josh:
It's going to happen in Q4 once these

Josh:
things are actually online and fully operational and training things.

Josh:
And there's also just one random fun fact that I thought, Ijez,

Josh:
you probably didn't know that you should know that I found out.

Josh:
Vera Rubin is actually the name of a person. It's an American astronomer whose

Josh:
work helped convince the world that dark matter was real.

Josh:
So I just thought that was like a fun fact. It's like, okay, cool.

Josh:
They got some cool meaning behind it. But yeah, this ship is remarkable.

Ejaaz:
Insane. I'm super pumped about it. It is an impressive feat of engineering.

Ejaaz:
I just wish it was here to play with already.

Ejaaz:
You know, like Blackwell announced, what is it, like five to six months ago?

Ejaaz:
And it's only now coming online. Probably the first data center is going to be XAI's Colossus 2.

Ejaaz:
So we're going to see the real effects of that generation of GPUs.

Ejaaz:
Kind of like relatively soon. So Vera Rubin is probably not going to be seen

Ejaaz:
until early next year if we factor in pre-training and post-training for AI

Ejaaz:
models once they've spun up these podcasters.

Ejaaz:
So I'm excited to see that, but I hate that we have to wait so long.

Ejaaz:
Another point to make, I guess, is NVIDIA is pumping out these new GPU versions

Ejaaz:
way more frequently than they used to be.

Ejaaz:
And that just is kind of a sign of the competitive times as the likes of AMD,

Ejaaz:
Intel, Google's TPU kind of breeds down their neck.

Ejaaz:
They kind of want to make sure that they're top dog.

Ejaaz:
And they've shown this with the 5x performance increase. I expect to see probably

Ejaaz:
a new NVIDIA GPU probably come out at a cadence of once every year eventually,

Ejaaz:
which gets me thinking, if there are constraints around memory,

Ejaaz:
we actually did an amazing episode on this earlier this week,

Ejaaz:
definitely go check that out.

Ejaaz:
And other types of things like energy, as you mentioned, Josh,

Ejaaz:
I wonder how many of these GPUs are just going to be collecting dust.

Ejaaz:
Do you remember we spoke about, there was that clip of Satya Nadella saying,

Ejaaz:
hey, I have like $300 million worth of H100s just collecting dust because I

Ejaaz:
don't have the energy to kind of like fit this out.

Ejaaz:
I wonder if we'll start running into those kinds of problems going forwards

Ejaaz:
but such a such a cool announcement.

Josh:
Yeah it's exciting and then in the meantime we're just going to get these

Josh:
software breakthroughs so the um like you

Josh:
were saying the breakthroughs from blackwell have not totally

Josh:
come we have this like nine month lull period in between where we're going to

Josh:
make some software innovations and it's it's just this like double parallel

Josh:
exponential progress they're both building on each other they're both compounding

Josh:
the line is going vertical progress as fast as you think it's moving it is moving

Josh:
so much faster but i want to round out the CES segment was something a little more fun,

Josh:
Ijaz, because it wasn't just the NVIDIA show, there was other stuff.

Josh:
I'm curious if you saw anything personally that got you excited,

Josh:
because for people who don't know, this is the consumer electronics show.

Josh:
This is where they announce all the cool new technology that,

Josh:
for the most part, you can actually buy sometime this year to put into your

Josh:
life. So is there anything that caught your eye in particular?

Ejaaz:
Yeah, this is peak AI. For any of you who are just listening,

Ejaaz:
I suggest you turn the screens on.

Ejaaz:
The world's first robot vacuum, Josh, that has legs. With legs.

Ejaaz:
So, hey, hey, hey, listen. The number one issue I had with Roomba,

Ejaaz:
which, by the way, went bankrupt last week,

Ejaaz:
was that, okay, it can move around my floor and vacuum and kind of get into

Ejaaz:
crevices, but it can't climb stairs.

Ejaaz:
So how can it, can I, I just want to leave it alone and let it clean my entire house.

Ejaaz:
This Roborock Saros rover has the ability to now climb stairs.

Ejaaz:
You have a video of this where it basically helps to put it up there.

Ejaaz:
It has a rectangular surface versus a circular surface.

Ejaaz:
It has AI-powered software and sensors, which allows it to map out your entire

Ejaaz:
house in 3D so that once it's mapped the entire house out, it can just kind

Ejaaz:
of run the same routine over and over again.

Ejaaz:
Here is a separate angle for those of you who are really keen to see like,

Ejaaz:
hey, I don't know if it's cleaning the entire step.

Ejaaz:
It is look at this look at this like flexibility and mobility on this i i just

Ejaaz:
freaking love love it um so it's going to be coming out uh relatively soon uh

Ejaaz:
they haven't kind of like gone into production yet but i like the fact that

Ejaaz:
it's a prototype that actually works josh versus something that is a kind of

Ejaaz:
like graphics video demo very cool that's pretty sick.

Josh:
Yeah i love i love the robots look it could even jump it was hopping a little bit earlier

Ejaaz:
Exactly all right what about what about you what you got what were you for me excited about.

Josh:
Yes this year this was the year of displays, man. This display technology in

Josh:
general was so exciting for me.

Josh:
First, I want to reference the Samsung folding display because what you're seeing

Josh:
here isn't just a Samsung folding display.

Josh:
This is the display in the new iPhone that's coming later this year.

Josh:
And it's cool that we get to see the core technology displayed before it gets

Josh:
placed into products that we'll all use later in the year.

Josh:
And the cool thing about this new Samsung folding display is for the first time

Josh:
ever, your display can fold in half and when it unfolds, will not leave a seam.

Josh:
So if you see on the left here, there's a display that has a seam right down

Josh:
the middle. It doesn't look that good. You could tell that it's folded,

Josh:
The display on the right looks no different than an iPad. And this is what we're

Josh:
going to be getting in the iPhone Fold later this year.

Josh:
So it's cool to see Samsung, who is a supplier of Apple, showcasing their new

Josh:
technology that will eventually be in their hands and pockets later this year.

Ejaaz:
Android users are punching the air right now, Josh. Because they've had this tech for so long.

Josh:
Yeah, but yours had a seam. Ours doesn't have a seam,

Ejaaz:
Bro. Hey, don't. Okay, yeah. Sorry, I thought you were personally attacking

Ejaaz:
me. I'm an Apple user. Come on.

Josh:
No, I'm attacking the Android people. but like, yeah, okay, you guys have been

Josh:
folding for years, but like, yeah, have fun with your seam.

Josh:
Anyways, the second cool technology is micro LED displays. And what's cool,

Josh:
what we're seeing on screen is they're transparent.

Josh:
You can actually create these beautiful transparent displays that use micro LEDs.

Josh:
And the difference between a standard LED and a micro LED is a micro LED actually

Josh:
has all three color diodes.

Josh:
It has RGB built into each one of the tiny little pixels.

Josh:
So it's really high fidelity, really cool, interesting displays.

Josh:
And then the third and final thing in the display world is for people who use Macs.

Josh:
There is no 5k 120 hertz

Josh:
display for mac and that has

Josh:
driven me absolutely crazy because 120 hertz is

Josh:
what is it feels very smooth it's what the new iphones use and 60 hertz just

Josh:
doesn't cut it but they haven't been able to do this because they've been throttled

Josh:
by thunderbolt and long story short if you are a macbook user and you want the

Josh:
native display resolution this is a big year for you you will be buying a new

Josh:
monitor it is very exciting but that wraps up our CES news this week.

Josh:
Ejaz, we had some other big news, not CES related, but instead from Big Dog

Josh:
OpenAI. This is their first big announcement of the year.

Ejaaz:
I am pumped about this.

Josh:
With, yeah, ChatGPT Health. You were very excited about this.

Josh:
So please explain to myself and the audience what caught your eye with ChatGPT Health.

Ejaaz:
So one of the biggest ways that I use ChatGPT is through all the research and

Ejaaz:
reading that we do, including prep for the episodes that we talk about.

Ejaaz:
But the other, probably second most used one is around personal health and fitness.

Ejaaz:
I would use it to kind of design gym routines for me, diet plans for myself.

Ejaaz:
And in some ways, Josh, I will give it my medical labs,

Ejaaz:
my reports, my records to kind of like gauge whether I'm going to be facing

Ejaaz:
some sort of issue in the future,

Ejaaz:
or whether the diagnosis or rather symptom that I'm feeling or getting today

Ejaaz:
is actually accurate. And I've run into a few obstacles.

Ejaaz:
Typically, ChatGPT would give me a weird sort of answer that isn't really accurate,

Ejaaz:
or it'll just politely decline and say, sorry, I'm not a doctor,

Ejaaz:
I can't do this. Until this week.

Ejaaz:
OpenAI released something called ChatGPT Health, which is a dedicated space

Ejaaz:
for health conversations in ChatGPT. Okay, so what does that mean?

Ejaaz:
Basically, it's a separate space that you can connect your medical records and health fitness apps.

Ejaaz:
So now Apple Health, the likes of MyFitnessPal, and also Peloton and an array of other apps.

Ejaaz:
I'm hoping Aidsleep, Aidsleep, if you're listening to this, please connect to this.

Ejaaz:
And you can feed this data into

Ejaaz:
your ChatGPT, and it can start to identify certain patterns of health,

Ejaaz:
whether you're feeling something, you can recognize whether you've consumed

Ejaaz:
too much alcohol the night before, and it can give you personalized information

Ejaaz:
about how you can start to improve your life.

Ejaaz:
Now, it's important to stress that it's not trying to replace the role of a

Ejaaz:
doctor, and they've been very explicit in actually saying that,

Ejaaz:
but it's meant to be an aid.

Ejaaz:
It's meant to be an assistant, and it's that jump into a personal AI assistant

Ejaaz:
that extends beyond just becoming your essay writer or kind of writing up a

Ejaaz:
product plan for you for your kind of nine-to-five knowledge worker job.

Ejaaz:
This is something that actually applies to

Ejaaz:
pretty much anyone that wants to live, which is every human on earth.

Ejaaz:
And so I'm excited to see something like this scale. This, this to me is something

Ejaaz:
useful that I would like pay an extra 10 to 20 tech, even 50 bucks to use.

Josh:
I'm finding it funny the roles that companies are finding themselves in where

Josh:
we have in one corner, Anthropic, they are the world's best at coding.

Josh:
They're sounding the alarm that we are building AGI very quickly. We need to be careful.

Josh:
We need to make sure this is aligned then we have grok which

Josh:
is dead set on building the truth-seeking ai they're building the biggest data

Josh:
center in the world as fast as possible and then chat gbt is like we partner

Josh:
with disney to give you cute little things that you could pair with your videos

Josh:
and now we have this like fun little health feature where we can improve your

Josh:
health by ingesting your records and it's it's nice it's important it's just

Josh:
the stark contrast between

Josh:
the other companies and open ai kind of made it clear this year that they're

Josh:
going to be leaning more into the commercial side of the business versus the

Josh:
consumer side of the business.

Josh:
So this is interesting to me. I think the personal take was that we're reaching

Josh:
a crossroads now where you kind of have to make the personal decision of how

Josh:
deep do you want to go with these LLMs, with these companies?

Josh:
Are you ready to go all in? Because if you do, then you open yourself up to

Josh:
all the benefits that will come from it. You give them your health data.

Josh:
Well, you'll get all the health advisory stuff. And then as the hardware comes,

Josh:
it'll track more of your health.

Josh:
It'll It'll gain this full stack profile on you and know you better than anything else in the world.

Josh:
And if you're okay with the people at OpenAI having that data to use at their

Josh:
will, then this is a great thing.

Josh:
But I think it's a personal decision whether or not you want to decide to go

Josh:
all in on a company like this and give them all your data versus kind of reserving

Josh:
it and maybe giving it to someone else who you trust more or just keeping it for yourself.

Josh:
It's this interesting world dilemma, but this is like really awesome and really impressive.

Josh:
And I frequently think about how

Josh:
Steve Jobs would think about AI and how someone like Kim would sell AI.

Josh:
And it's not the way that OpenAI is doing it, but I would imagine it would follow

Josh:
similar principles where, listen, now you have a doctor in your pocket that

Josh:
knows everything about you. It can help save your life.

Josh:
It can save your loved one's life. It's like this very powerful technology.

Josh:
And OpenAI is leaning into it with this whole thing. So I don't know.

Josh:
I'm feeling excited about it. I'm not there yet.

Josh:
I signed up for the wait list. I'm not sure I'm going to be user number one.

Josh:
But if they could prove that it really is valuable enough, it seems like it makes sense to do it.

Ejaaz:
Well, what I appreciate with OpenAI from the start is that they've hyper-focused

Ejaaz:
on the retail consumer, like the average Joe and how they can benefit from AI.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, they're focused on enterprise.

Ejaaz:
I'd say Anthropoc actually is focused more on enterprise, but OpenAI has always

Ejaaz:
tried to figure out, okay, what's the best consumer product loop that I can provide them?

Ejaaz:
And I think health is a really good one to focus on.

Ejaaz:
We've just obviously ended 2025. And one of the most painful tasks that I need

Ejaaz:
to do at the end of every year is figure out my health insurance for the next

Ejaaz:
year, living in America, right?

Ejaaz:
And being in New York on the East Coast, it is the most arduous.

Ejaaz:
I absolutely hate it. I have to like sign up to like 10 different accounts.

Ejaaz:
I need to evaluate a million different plans.

Ejaaz:
And then even when I'm on the plan, it is super hard to kind of verify whether

Ejaaz:
the information about a particular doctor and their address is even correct.

Ejaaz:
So it's very, very antiquated.

Ejaaz:
And I've been waiting for this industry to be disrupted.

Ejaaz:
And then came along an app like Oscar Health.

Ejaaz:
For those of you who haven't heard about this, this kind of like changed healthcare

Ejaaz:
in many different ways in America in particular, because you could just pick

Ejaaz:
up your phone and FaceTime your doctor and get that live healthcare, right?

Ejaaz:
ChatGPT Health, to me, is that next step evolution where eventually,

Ejaaz:
you mentioned, Josh, it's funny, that you'll have a doctor in your pocket

Ejaaz:
you'll have the best doctor in your pocket. In fact, you won't just have the

Ejaaz:
best specialist in your pocket, you'll have the equivalent of 10 specialists in one doctor.

Ejaaz:
How much would you be willing to pay to see that doctor every single day, 24-7?

Ejaaz:
These doctors don't sleep, right? And then I think about the next step evolution, which is,

Ejaaz:
if you have this doctor in your pocket, it can start feeding into pharmacies,

Ejaaz:
which can start delivering personalized pill packs, or maybe even personalized

Ejaaz:
treatments, peptides, stuff like that going on to the future.

Ejaaz:
So this is the first step of many.

Ejaaz:
And Sam Altman has said for a while now, I'd say like for the last five months,

Ejaaz:
that he intends for health to be a big component for OpenAI.

Ejaaz:
They have RetroSciences as well, which are kind of like their lab to kind of

Ejaaz:
build out future cures for diseases that ChatGPT helps discover.

Ejaaz:
So I think this is part of a much larger puzzle that will help kind of like

Ejaaz:
build this health AGI, which they're aiming for by the end of this year.

Josh:
Yeah. And the key piece to the health puzzle is data. And the problem is that

Josh:
a lot of, for a lot of people, it's just difficult to collect the data.

Josh:
You're not really going for MRIs and CT scans and scanning a lot of parts. It's very topical.

Josh:
It collects data from something like an Apple Watch or maybe some blood results you got from a doctor.

Josh:
One interesting thing I've seen people doing that I would advise you to possibly

Josh:
try if you've ever done a DNA test or you've ever done Ancestry or 23andMe or

Josh:
whatever companies give you your DNA profile.

Josh:
It's normally a couple hundred gigabytes of raw data, but you can actually upload

Josh:
this into an LLM and get customized feedback on what types of things could possibly

Josh:
affect you based on your genomic makeup.

Josh:
So you could see if you are resistant to insulin or if you are prone to these types of diseases.

Josh:
And these LLMs do a remarkably good job of analyzing this tremendous amount

Josh:
of data and kind of giving you the places that you need to focus on and be most

Josh:
cautious of as you move forward.

Josh:
So this type of health practice, as we collect more data and figure out how to parse through it.

Josh:
It's really exciting. And it's made me want to go get a DNA test and try to load it up into an LLMC.

Josh:
And I think it's super exciting stuff. Health is going to be a very large category

Josh:
this year and OpenAI is making sure of it.

Ejaaz:
Going to be huge. Okay, in the final story on the docket, we have some capital

Ejaaz:
raised news from two of our favorite AI labs that are out there.

Ejaaz:
We've got Anthropic of Claude Code.

Ejaaz:
They've confirmed that they're raising $10 billion at a $350 billion valuation.

Ejaaz:
Now, this nearly doubles its previous valuation of $183 billion.

Ejaaz:
Josh, you gave me the timeline of if you were an investor in August of last year what's the return.

Josh:
Yeah i was looking at like uh i think it was foundry is the name of the company

Josh:
there's like uh basically spvs you could buy into them employees will sell some

Josh:
of their shares in the public market or private market you could buy into them

Josh:
it showed the chart over time and i think august 1st of 2025 it was trading

Josh:
at 69 a share and now it's something like 260

Josh:
so 4x in a couple of months i mean if you own any of these things if you are

Josh:
an employee at any of these things, congratulations.

Josh:
You are getting generationally wealthy and the train is not stopping anytime soon.

Josh:
This is not the only big raise this week. We had a second one,

Josh:
XAI in the news, a $20 billion Series E.

Josh:
And they were targeting $15 billion. It was oversubscribed.

Ejaaz:
$5 billion over target. Oversupped.

Josh:
One of the interesting stats here is that top line there, these 600 million

Josh:
monthly active users, that is encroaching on OpenAI.

Josh:
And they're getting closer and closer to that mythical 800 million

Josh:
weekly active user number granted monthly to weekly so

Josh:
it's a little bit different but uh they're on a roll and i

Josh:
think this capital raise will be enough to this is a crazy take this could be

Josh:
enough to get them to the able could be could be 20 dollars applied to blackwell

Josh:
and vera rubin over the course of the next 24 months leads to some pretty unbelievable progress

Josh:
And $20 billion may be enough to get there.

Ejaaz:
You might have noticed for regular listeners on the show, we've been kind of quiet about Grok.

Ejaaz:
And the simple reason is since Grok 4, we haven't really got their unofficial

Ejaaz:
release of Grok 4.20 or any rumors around Grok 5.

Ejaaz:
And the reason behind this is because I think Elon has gone kind of full on

Ejaaz:
founder mode and he wants to assemble the largest armory of top-end GPUs in

Ejaaz:
Colossus 1 and Colossus 2 data centers.

Ejaaz:
Once he's acquired these, once he's scaled these data centers quicker than any

Ejaaz:
other competing AI lab, he'll be able to train the mother of all AIs.

Ejaaz:
And rumor has it that he's going to amass 900,000 GPUs in Colossus 2 data center

Ejaaz:
alone. And these aren't just any GPUs.

Ejaaz:
He's the largest acquirer of Blackwell GPUs, fun fact, the ones that are going

Ejaaz:
to go live very, very soon in this quarter.

Ejaaz:
And he's also one of the largest purchasers of Vera Rubin GPUs.

Ejaaz:
Jensen absolutely loves this guy and says he's the guy that can scale GPUs quicker than anyone.

Ejaaz:
So he's aiming for 900,000 GPUs by the end, sorry, by mid Q2.

Ejaaz:
That is like astoundingly quick and will beat OpenAI to the punch,

Ejaaz:
even though they started well before.

Ejaaz:
So if he pulls this off, Josh, i think that prediction is not too far-fetched

Ejaaz:
he will end up building the best ai model this year that's that's my bet.

Josh:
At least yeah no and i say this with very high levels of conviction do

Josh:
not mistake their silence for weakness xai is building faster than anybody else

Josh:
and i think they were my winner for the the like winner of 2026 in terms of

Josh:
who's going to create the best ai models they are building at a rate faster

Josh:
than anybody else in the world and in these races where the resources are the constraint.

Josh:
The person to deploy them the fastest and the most efficiently is the one that wins the race.

Josh:
And XAI right now is winning that race, if you're looking at it from a more

Josh:
long-term perspective.

Josh:
But with that, we conclude our weekly roundup. All the topics that we wanted to get into about

Josh:
I think the prompt for this week maybe is CES announcements.

Josh:
What's the coolest CES announcement? There's so many fun gadgets and gizmos

Josh:
that I saw come out this week.

Josh:
And a lot of them are available to purchase right now. Like even Anchor,

Josh:
the charger company that I use a lot, they put like these cute little LEDs in

Josh:
the charging bricks now. It's like a lot of cool stuff.

Josh:
So I think the prompt for today could maybe be, what's the coolest thing you

Josh:
saw from CES? What are you buying from CES?

Josh:
Or what are you most excited about from CES? Did you got anything for them?

Ejaaz:
I have a slightly different prompt. I know a lot of you listeners are Teslables

Ejaaz:
and even in some cases Tesla haters.

Ejaaz:
I want to hear from both of you guys whether you think NVIDIA's competing Alpameo

Ejaaz:
vehicle AI is actually a legitimate threat or not.

Ejaaz:
Kind of let us know in the comments. I want to hear all about this.

Ejaaz:
And yeah, that is all we have for the docket today.

Ejaaz:
We released two episodes earlier this week, one on the semiconductor memory

Ejaaz:
squeeze, as well as OpenAI's new secret device.

Ejaaz:
Definitely go check those videos out. we also dropped a sick kind of thesis

Ejaaz:
and essay on the memory squeeze as well for those of you who don't want to be

Ejaaz:
consuming video content all day

Ejaaz:
we've got a nice little article that we've written out for you um and all.

Josh:
This link in the description don't forget to click that down below

Ejaaz:
All linked in the description and also as you're watching this video we dropped

Ejaaz:
the five biggest highlights of this week um so definitely go check that out

Ejaaz:
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Ejaaz:
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Ejaaz:
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Ejaaz:
And we will see you, hopefully, on the next one. Number two, 2026. Buckle up.

Josh:
We are in it now. This is going to be a huge year and we will be here to cover

Josh:
the entirety of it as we go through. So yeah, thanks for watching.

Josh:
We'll see you guys in the next one.

Ejaaz:
Cheers, guys.