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All aboard the chaos express! If you’ve got a ticket for this ride, you already know it. It’s the one where there’s never enough time in the day—kids’ schedules outpace yours, work demands keep piling up, and oh yeah, the laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn, and bills aren’t going to handle themselves. Let’s not forget staying connected with friends and family, even though you planned to be in bed by 9 pm…but it’s now 11 pm, and tomorrow starts before the sun does. Sound familiar?
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(upbeat music)
Cheers. Cheers.
To the weekend.
When I sip, you sip.
You get hearing it.
Smash that like button.
You get the Roach Killer.
You get the hearing it.
You get the steering wheel.
Long story short, it's like Christmas
for a lot of weird stuff.
It is the weirdest.
We're not wanting to talk.
We met on a cruise.
Yes, we did.
I honestly think that that's one of
life's biggest lies.
Is that at some point, you figure it out.
Yeah.
Because everybody always
looks like they have it together.
Yeah.
Everyone does.
Yeah.
And you're like, how do I not?
I think that's profound though.
I think that's profound.
That's life's biggest lie is
that at some point you make it.
Yeah.
It's AI on AI action.
Yeah.
And nobody's actually doing anything.
This is on their wall for a long time.
It said, there's two things
you need to give your children.
One is roots and one is wings.
That hit one with me for sure.
Yeah.
Roots and wings.
Roots and wings.
Totally.
And it's like, am I
gonna be strong enough
to make sure that they have the wings?
Yeah.
But the key for me
and those wings is that
they carry them on too.
I mean, I'm happy to do a cha-cha slot.
Okay, I think we've just solidified.
We're both a little
uppity and that's okay.
Instead of the chaos
train, it's the uppity train.
The uppity train.
Yeah.
It's the first class steerage.
We're not first class.
That's right.
We're first class steerage.
First class steerage.
You threw out a lot of
Minnesota radio names.
(laughing)
I have never.
I don't know that guy.
That's a Minnesota thing.
This is not a Garrison Keeler thing.
He knows what he's doing.
See, another name nobody knows.
No, not Minnesota.
And it was very lonely.
I can still picture myself
laying in the bottom bunk
in my dorm room in Birch
Hall at the University of Iowa.
And just being scared and lonely.
Yeah.
But we're just still 25
year olds trying to figure out
our way in the world.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
100%.
And although we have a
couple of things figured out.
All right, until next time.
At a medium pace.
(laughing)
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
(upbeat music)
Imma name it.
Morning mayhem, I could have been it.
(clapping)
Tater tots, tater tots, la la land.
Tater tots, la la land.
Oh wow, we added land and tater tots.
L's are good.
Oh, a lot.
I've noticed, yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Well, and I do like your mayhem.
Morning mayhem.
Morning mayhem.
Yeah.
It really does fit.
Yeah, I don't, that's my brain.
Again, messing up words all the time.
Regular watchers of this know that
I do struggle to find words
and mash up words all the time.
(laughing) I don't think you do it that often.
I don't think you do it
nearly as much as you think you do.
You've always said that,
but maybe everybody
notices their own mess ups
more than other people do sometimes,
but I'm always well aware of it.
Top of mind.
I know.
Mine usually then I
kind of have that pause
because I'm trying to think
of what is the right phrase.
Yeah.
Well, cheers.
Cheers.
To a holiday weekend.
So here, we gotta get in here
because when we need to
put these on like TikToks,
I need you all, I need your
like face in here a little bit
because they can't see us.
Oh, there it is.
All right, that's fine.
(laughing) That was really good for the listeners.
Oh, I'm sure.
I need to do that at the very beginning.
Like when I first do tater tots.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you have to
put like a cover for it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Are our phones dinging away
if you were sending us texts?
I know.
It's good.
We, so it's been a strange weekend,
even though holiday weekend,
but with our daughter
being away for her first
like trip with another family,
we're actually getting
pictures of them right now.
That's why it's dinging away.
And I'm fighting every urge like to not
look at the pictures
and see what they're doing.
Yeah.
They've had a fun trip.
They really have.
But it's one of those ones
where we're talking about
where it's just, we're happy
that she's getting to do it
because we did that as kids, right?
Either we went with friends
or we had friends come with us at times,
but it's when your own kids,
it's sad.
I know.
Like I think your
brothers feel a little lost.
We miss our middle.
We miss our daughter no matter what.
Yesterday was okay though,
because it was a nice day outside.
We're all at the pool.
There's a couple of
things here and there,
but it was a really fun day,
games at night and whatnot.
So that was fun.
We're stuck inside today
because it's rainy and thunderstorm.
Literally, I don't
know if you can hear it,
but it's thundering right now.
I can hear it.
I don't know if they can hear it.
But yeah.
So I think now that we're
inside and we're one man down.
No, it's really sad.
It is.
It's, I miss her.
I know she's having a good time.
I know she is just
having a blast and laughing
and getting to do all
kinds of cool things,
but there's an emptiness
that's kind of left at home.
Yeah.
First off, I'm just heating up my,
we haven't cheers yet.
We've got these sippers.
And I'm just heating it up, holding it.
Cause I haven't, I haven't cheers Jesus.
Cheers.
Cheers.
It should be a weekend.
All right, everybody take a sip.
It's a drinking game.
Yeah, I know.
When I sip, you sip.
It's a song too.
Yeah, what is it?
I sip, you sip.
When I dip, you dip.
(laughing) You know it?
Yeah, yeah.
I probably did that on a
cruise at some point, right?
Yeah.
Somewhere like the cha cha slide.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
So we are going on a cruise this summer.
Yeah.
But it's not the cruise that,
well, we can talk about
our cruise a little bit,
but it's not the cruise that
some of the families went on.
One of the families
went on on the soccer team.
Yes.
Oh man.
Which you talk about the cha cha
and everybody up top
dancing, line dancing.
Cause I've seen some of these reels
where cruises are just
like old school block party.
Yes.
You know?
Yeah.
Which would have been
fun at a point in my life.
Yes.
I don't think we're there anymore.
I'm just not sure I'm at
that point in my life anymore
where I'm ready to get up and do the,
I mean, I'm happy to do a cha cha slide.
Heck yeah.
I mean, you just heard our,
I just heard our
youngest doing the cha cha slide
and then he was like,
"Oh, I'm gonna have to go up in his
bathroom the other day
after the shower."
And I was like, "Wow, it's 9.30
and we're cha cha sliding."
But still, yeah, it
hopefully isn't quite like...
Yeah, but they were going,
what was there?
There was like a three
nighter or something.
It was a three nighter and it was,
it was her mother-in-law's
like 90th birthday party.
And it was almost like a
booze cruise just overnight.
Yeah.
It was wild.
I mean, it's like a party ship.
And they were just like,
"What are we gonna do with
our 90 or 95 year old mother?"
But it's the one she wanted to go on.
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny that it's a booze cruise and,
you know, like I said,
you just get to a certain age.
Like the booze cruise is not,
I mean, we're not wanting to talk.
We met on a cruise.
Yes, we did.
It wasn't a,
I guess it was a booze cruise probably
because it was a carnival.
Kind of, it was.
Almost 20 years ago.
No, it was 20 years ago.
You're right, it was 20 years ago.
It was 20 years ago last month.
That's right, that's crazy.
So maybe a lot has changed at carnivals.
We were there, but.
I don't remember it being that.
I mean, obviously there was drinking.
I mean, we were well into our twenties,
but I don't recall it being.
There's just a difference
between like a block party
and like celebrating the
fact that you're, you know,
casting off on a, you
know, seven night cruise.
Yeah, yeah.
To me.
It was a total, yeah.
I'm not trying to be
judgmental about this.
I just think as you mature,
there's some things that
you're just not as much into.
I totally agree.
And getting blasted on a cruise ship is
one of those things.
Getting blasted on a cruise ship.
Not that we got blasted,
but you know, you hear stories about,
I mean, we saw plenty of people.
Oh yeah.
I mean, on the cruises that we've taken,
we've seen plenty of people who was like,
whoa, you are over-served.
Yeah, we've only been on two cruises.
The one that we met on
down in the Caribbean,
which was a what?
Western Caribbean?
No, Western, Western Caribbean.
Yeah, I think it was Western Caribbean.
And then our honeymoon, we went on a
Hawaiian Islands cruise
that left from the mainland.
Yes. California.
And that one I thought was really uppity.
Like I didn't, I don't know.
Oh, you're right.
Apparently I needed that
move to make it uppity.
That one I don't feel
like had any of that.
So you're saying we fit much more
into the uppity cruises now?
Wow.
Okay, if the shoe fits.
Yeah, I mean, you're
really painting a picture.
Last week it's like, I'm not gonna camp,
I'm an indoor gal, kinda gal.
Now it's, I prefer the uppity cruises.
I prefer the uppity cruises.
Well, I mean, I do remember
the guy who was super drunk
and he like fell off of
a dock and broke his leg
and then he walked
around, I mean, it just--
He was like the class clown,
but he was the cruise clown.
He was.
Everybody knew that guy.
Everybody knew that guy.
He was everywhere.
Yes, he's actually in
some of our pictures.
We don't know this
man just for the record.
We have no idea who he was,
but like everybody
knew of him on the cruise
because he was the life of the party.
Life of the party, he was everywhere.
Everywhere.
Until he was too drunk
and he fell off a dock
and broke his leg.
Yes, and even then he
was still like splinted
because they couldn't cast him.
Still just drinking up a storm.
Do you remember how much he sweat?
I don't recall that, I
probably blocked that out.
He was just drenched
in sweat the whole time.
He was, I mean, but he was always like,
even in the, cause he
got a wheelchair, right?
I remember him on the
dance floor in a wheelchair
because he didn't now have a
cast on his fully broken leg.
Yeah.
And yet still drinking.
Wow.
That's the type of like
thing that we tend to avoid
now on cruises.
And then.
I guess they have that.
Now and then, yeah.
Now and then, yeah.
That's right, that's right.
So the cruise that we're going to,
we've just spent this holiday week
and we spent hours and hours and hours
kind of rebooking our excursions.
Yes.
I mean, almost every
excursion we rebooked,
but now it's all, I mean,
every excursion is planned at this point.
It is, it's better planned.
Cause I've been nervous
that we're getting closer
and closer to it and
we don't have everything
kind of nailed down.
I don't want to show up and be like,
it's all going to turn out great.
And we can't get a
cabana, we can't get a beach.
We can't, I don't like to be the family
that didn't get the perk.
Yeah.
You know?
Or in the front of the line or whatever.
Maybe that's a little uppity too.
I don't know.
I know.
It comes with maturity,
comes with maturity, I guess.
Okay, I think we've just solidified.
We're both a little
uppity and that's okay.
So yeah.
That's why we fit together so well.
Yeah, that's right.
So we're changing maybe
the quote for the show.
Mr. and Mrs., instead of the chaos train,
it's the uppity train.
It's the uppity train.
Yeah, it's the first class steerage.
It's the first class steerage.
That might be the best.
Because it's definitely not first class.
We're not first class.
That's right.
We're first class steerage.
We're first class steerage.
Yeah.
So anyways, so that's been
fun getting all that kind of,
you know, I mean, I'm
really looking forward to it now.
It's going to be incredible.
I've never been over to Italy.
We're going to hit like
four or five countries.
You know, it's an 11 day cruise.
So the kids are going to enjoy it.
It's going to be a go
vacation and we're not goers.
We're not goers.
We're not goers.
We did plan, I think a couple excursions
where it's a little more
chill that day, you know?
Yeah.
It's like--
A couple boat outings, a couple,
like when you get
there, we'll go on a boat
and swim here or there, a couple beach.
A couple beach.
And then a couple where it's just like,
hey, we're hitting
this archeological site
and then to this one
and then to this one.
And we're going to grab lunch in between.
I mean, those are the days
that we're going to be like,
I'm so tired.
But I know it's going to happen.
I mean, our youngest is still young.
Yes.
And I'll never forget,
I probably have already
told this story on this,
but when I went to the middle East,
when I was 21 and I was just taken aback
by the history of it, how
old it was, the architecture.
I mean, it's just, to
me, it just hit you,
like a 30 foot wave of just the cultural,
historical significance
of what you're standing in,
just everything that's
come before you and that,
it's incredible.
And then I look over and
there's these 18 year olds
who are just picking apart
this 4,000 year old fence
or stone wall, like
knocking a brick off of it.
I'm like, are you stinking kidding me?
Yeah.
So, I mean, I'll slap
the heck out of our kids.
I won't, but I'll slap our kids
if they were to do something like that.
But I know we're going
to hear the first church
is going to be really cool, right?
Like, oh, that's incredible.
The third church.
Is going to be like, okay,
we've seen a lot of churches.
They're going to be so bored.
I know, I know.
So bored.
Well, that's one of the cool things,
I think if I'm
looking back at every port,
it's almost like we
don't have too many days
of that sightseeing or
archeological or like church things,
like, you know, where
it's a gorgeous city.
Looking at sites, we don't
have too many of those in a row
because then they're broken up by,
oh, we're going to be on a catamaran
and going snorkeling the following day.
Right, right.
So, I'm hoping that helps.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I just, talking about
being uppity and all that,
I just, since we're on a large ship
with, you know, 3,000
of our best friends,
you know, it's just, that's very,
we talked about it when
we were at the soccer game,
you know, when there was like 60,000
of our best friends over there.
Oh my gosh, there were
so many people there.
Yeah, but those big crowds and stuff,
you know, getting on and off
the boat and waiting in line
and, you know, people
that are just not thinking
of other people.
Yep.
I'm just going to have to
either grow some patience,
because I don't have patience,
I was not blessed with patience.
That is the virtue you do not have.
That's the virtue I do not possess,
I've always said that.
Or I just need to drink a lot, so.
Let's do a little bit of both.
Oh, okay.
After that.
I guess, you'll bring the patience
and I'll bring the drinking.
Yeah, that works.
That's how it always works.
That's how it always works.
I mean, we're going to
classic wine places, right?
You have Greece, you
have Italy, you have France,
like we're, Sicily.
There's going to be.
It's going to be incredible.
Oh my gosh, it's going to be incredible.
And there will be good wine.
There will be.
There will be.
The kids did tell me, they're like,
"Mom, you can't go to the wineries."
I'm just like, "All right, I mean,
guess I'll have to go
back to go to those."
We didn't even, yeah, we
will go back for those,
but we didn't even
consider going to those.
Trying to do fun things.
No, we're trying to do fun things
and things that the
kids would enjoy as well.
This isn't a Shawn and Megan vacation,
we'd probably do
things a little differently
on a vacation for just us.
This is a very go-go vacation though,
but the reason I
brought up the one in Hawaii
was because that was really nice.
I had never been to Hawaii before that.
I had neither.
And so that trip, we
went to four of the islands
and then back to maybe one or
two of them on the way back.
Correct, yeah.
So we got to disembark
on every one of those
and explore them, but it was a great way
just to get to know each island
because they're all so
different out there obviously.
And then we knew what we
wanted to do when we went back.
And so I think this is a
little similar over there.
Okay, I want to do this.
We're going to see all these spots.
Like when we go to
cans, how do you say it?
Cans or cons?
Cans.
I think it's can, yeah, can.
Okay.
The can can, is it from can can?
Sure.
Why not?
Yeah, but we're going
up to Nice, up to...
Monaco.
Monaco.
So seeing, just seeing all those places
and putting eyeballs on
them and putting your feet,
then you'll know like, I
want to go back to Nice.
It was incredible.
Or just some of the
places on the Sicilian coast.
It's going to be incredible.
One of the places, just
as we were researching,
Malta is the one I'm
like, this one might be one.
I'm actually, Malta was one
of those where I was like,
oh, it might be an easy day, whatever.
Go back to the ship early.
After we started doing the research,
Malta seems incredible.
We'll see.
We'll have to do a Rick
Steves style, like podcast after.
I don't know who Rick Steves is.
Oh, he's like a big travel guy.
Is or was?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I thought he still did it.
Oh, I've never heard of him.
Is he from Minnesota radio?
No, you'll--
You threw out a lot of
Minnesota radio names.
(laughing) I have never--
I don't know that guy.
That's a Minnesota thing.
This is not a Gary Sinkeler thing.
See, another name nobody knows.
Unless you're from Minnesota.
No, Rick Steves, like he
does a whole bunch of like,
travel guides and stuff like that.
I don't know.
The name is--
Okay.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
There's a lot of names I don't know.
A lot of people I don't know.
You can find him in
the Google pretty easily.
I'll have to do that.
Yeah, you'll have to Google that one.
Okay, interesting.
Or chat GPT at like--
Chat GPT, oh my gosh.
That'll be a whole nother
episode of just talking about
these kids, this generation.
I've even seen some articles
about how even teachers now
are using AI or A1.
People that aren't familiar.
AI to like grade things even now.
So-- Well, that's cool.
It's AI on AI action.
Yeah.
And nobody's actually doing anything.
Just sounds like a really weird porn,
just for the record.
AI on AI action.
I know, well that's
why I said it that way.
And you just had to
put a spotlight on it.
I just dropped a nice
little funny, you know,
maybe people go like one eyebrow up, go,
"I wonder if he knew he did that."
Yeah, I did.
I did.
(laughs)
You just went there and punched it in.
I did.
Just make sure people
bite you in the face.
I'm gonna drive that one home.
Make sure you know you got that one.
(laughs) There's subtle, subtlety about it.
There's no subtlety about that one.
Although I bet people at home, like,
they're gonna be like,
"I don't really know what that means."
Like.
(laughs) Yeah, I wonder how
many people don't follow
what we talk about.
Like, okay, now they're back.
Yeah.
I don't really understand what happened
for the last 60 seconds or so, but I
understand words now.
Yeah, yeah.
(laughs)
It's probably a lot.
Yeah, probably a lot.
Happens in this house all the time.
Nobody, one of my pet
peeves, nobody can hear me.
I mean, I repeat
everything I say three times
in this house probably.
I should just
automatically repeat everything I say
no matter what,
because every time it's like,
"What, huh?
"What'd you say?
"Are you talking to me?"
Yeah.
Like, "Yeah, I am.
"I gotta, I don't know what that is.
"I'm just gonna say it's my tone,
"but it's probably
nobody cares to hear it."
No, no, I don't know
what it is, obviously.
I would have changed it if I knew.
Yeah, no, not the
point on bringing it up.
Switching gears, but what
we kinda started on earlier
was just this fact that we're spending
a little bit more money
on vacations right now,
because I know I'm,
and probably you are too,
I'm starting to feel that squeeze
of our kids have
limited time in our house.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
The sands of time.
I cannot bring myself
to really think about,
we have a sophomore in high school.
Yeah.
I can't bring myself to
think about three more years.
We will have, yeah.
And three years from right now,
we're like, "Well, we get,
"not even, what, six,
maybe eight weeks with him
"in the summer before
he'll go off to college."
Yeah.
I can't bring myself to think about that.
I know, but we have to start doing it.
He teases me about it now.
He was teasing me about it
in the car the other day.
What?
Yeah, because he's
like, "What's only gonna be
"three more years and I'm outta here."
Not that he's looking forward to it,
because I know once he starts
thinking about it, he won't.
The world's, he's still young enough
that the world is overwhelming still.
Yes, yeah.
But he'll, the next three
years would be eye-opening,
but I just, I am not ready.
I know there's people
that listen to this podcast
that are in the same
time of life that we're in,
and they're starting to
spend those last few years.
Some of them have already sent their
first one to college.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's people
that did it 20 years ago
and they have grandchildren.
There's people that span
all kinds that listen to this,
but every one of us that have got to this
or been through it have dealt with it,
because it's heart-wrenching.
It is.
But everybody says,
"When it's time, it's time."
Yeah.
It's not time.
It's not time.
For us.
And I just, it breaks my heart to think
that there will become
a time when it's like,
but it's time for you to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Too many adults in the
house, spread your wings.
All these things that everybody says.
Yeah, yeah.
And will I have the
strength and wisdom to be like,
I want you to go where you need to go
if they get a job in Seattle,
which is a really long
plane right away from us.
But because that's
the best thing for him.
I mean, at this point in time,
I would love to keep them as close to me
from a proximity standpoint as possible.
Will I have the courage to be like,
that's the best thing for
you is to go there and do that?
Yep.
And like, I don't
know, my parents did have,
this was on their wall for a long time.
It said, "There's two things
you need to give your children.
One is roots and one is wings."
And it's like, I like to think we've done
a pretty good job with the roots.
This was what,
scribbled in blood on the wall?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just trying to get a feel.
It was in a picture?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Was your mom crochet it?
No, it was like a
saying in nice calligraphy
and it was framed.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it was really nice.
It was on one of the shelves.
Actually, it is really nice.
I probably diluted it there a little bit,
but that is, I mean, that
hit home with me for sure.
Yeah.
Roots and wings.
Roots and wings.
Totally.
And it's like, hmm, am
I gonna be strong enough
to make sure that they have the wings?
Yeah, but the key for me in those wings
is that they carry them home too.
I know, I know.
I know.
I know our oldest, he
wants to live in Colorado.
He knows that.
He does.
Texas is too hot, which I
agree with a lot of the time.
But as I get older, we
talk about it all the time.
I'm freezing, I don't know that I could
handle a full winter,
but Colorado winters are great,
because it's 70 every
other day, I feel like.
Yeah.
It's not Minnesota.
It's not Minnesota.
Yeah, I've never handled the cold well.
Let's just, ironically.
I know, I don't know how,
we always come back to that,
yet you lived in Minnesota.
And Chicago.
Yeah.
And Montana.
Yeah.
And, I mean, Colorado does get cold.
Yeah.
Usually, than here.
You've been here for 10 years now.
I've been here for 10 years.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a long time, anyway.
Before we moved here,
though, almost everywhere
I had ever lived, with
the exception of Las Vegas,
was a cold weather climate.
Yeah, yeah.
So, but I never did like the winter.
That was never my favorite part of it.
Yeah.
Anyway, but it's, I can't
believe time is moving that fast.
I just wonder how other
people have handled that,
because, I mean, again, I
go back to everybody says,
when it's time, it's time.
And when it was time for me to leave,
it was a different situation.
I was ready to go.
Just, you know, it was time.
It was time before that,
unfortunately, probably.
Yeah.
I mean, when you left, was it time?
Yeah.
But it didn't mean that I wasn't scared.
I don't even remember if I
talked about it on the podcast.
I remember that first
night in the dorm room.
Yeah.
And my parents, my
grandmother lived in the same city
as I was going to college in.
And so I could have spent
the night just at her house
with my parents, because they were just
staying at her house
when they were dropping me off.
And they're like, "Hey, do you want to
stay at grandma's house
"or do you want to stay at the dorm?"
And I, as hard as it was, I was like,
"I need to stay at the dorm."
And I will never forget my roommates
hadn't moved in yet.
And it was very lonely.
I can still picture myself
laying in the bottom bunk
in my dorm room in Birch
Hall at the University of Iowa.
And just being scared and lonely.
Yeah.
But knowing I had to do it.
Yeah.
So it was kind of like the baby bird,
you got to take that
step out of the nest,
even though you're not going to fall.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yep.
Well, that's what you hope
your parents have prepared you.
And that's what we hope our,
we have prepared our children for that.
And we've got three more
years and our kids are doing well
with their stings.
I'm like, there's no
way they're ready now.
They need those three years.
They need those three years.
Although I wonder if our
parents thought that about us.
Like, hmm.
Yeah.
Well, whatever they don't know,
I guess they'll figure out.
Yeah.
I bet your parents knew you'd be fine.
I think so.
I think so.
I think you've always been very,
just by the book responsible,
knowing Megan's going to be fine.
Other than, you know,
you're a hundred pounds and five,
three, that was probably the
only thing they were worried
about you getting, you know,
blown away in a twister or something.
Right, right.
(both laughing)
Which I think we doesn't
have that many tornadoes,
but you know, hey.
(both laughing)
A stiff breeze then.
Stiff breeze.
Oh my gosh.
There actually was.
When it got cold,
there was like between two
of these buildings, I would
go into the chemistry building
and there was this super
steep hill down to the river.
Okay.
And it was like a wind tunnel.
And we would get a lot
of ice storms in Iowa.
And so we're talking
about being blown away.
I remember being like, I am going to die
on this super slick hill
that's just a sheet of ice
with this wind blowing
that I can barely stand up
because it acted like
a wind tunnel in here.
People would actually take
the trays from our cafeteria
and ride down the hill like a sled
on those cafeteria trays.
It was so steep.
Because it was so
steep, so icy and so windy.
Yeah.
So I guess--
And the wind blew you down.
And it blew us down.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah, we'd go down to the river.
I mean, so maybe being
scared about me blowing away
was valid, at least going
into the chemistry building.
(both laughing)
Oh yeah.
So anyways, we're trying to, in my mind,
I feel like just
really trying to make sure
we hold onto these because again,
this is one of those weird things.
We talk about it off and
on here, maybe earlier on,
but with me, and I think you feel the
same way with this too,
but we're just still 25 year olds
trying to figure our way in the world.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
100%.
And although we have a
couple of things figured out
and we've figured out a couple of things,
you know, we've done all right,
we're still figuring out our lives.
We're still living our lives, you know,
like we talked about
for the last three months,
we've had a lot of doors closed on us,
a lot of pathways that we
thought were gonna be open,
weren't open, you know,
and we're working out
how to maneuver that.
And that's just part of
life where you thought,
oh, you know, you always think your
parents had it together.
Yes.
And, you know, I'm in my
late 40s and I can't say,
I mean, I've got it together,
but it's not like I'm just
smooth sailing every day.
There's, it's like you're bobbing and
weaving through life.
It's just the constant track circle,
or track oval with hurdles.
Just every 10 yards,
there's another hurdle.
Yeah.
I don't know if everybody
else's lives are like that,
but amid that, right?
Trying to just navigate your own life
because you don't have it all together
because we still just
think, we feel like we're 25,
but we're turning the
corner towards 50 years
in the next couple of years.
And our kids are about to leave us.
I mean, like talk about a change.
There's people that are
gonna be empty nesters
that we're friends with.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It is insane.
Yeah.
I honestly think that that's one of
life's biggest lies,
is that at some point you figure it out.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that is a lie that,
I mean, it's life's lie to everybody
because, and everybody always looks like
they have it together.
Yeah.
Everyone does.
Yeah.
And you're like, how do I not?
Because on like social media, even now,
everybody's pictures make them look like
they've got it together.
Yes.
Like they're all,
everybody's a billionaire.
Yeah.
Riding in private
jets and stuff like that.
Even as simple as filters,
when you take your picture,
you're like, I could put that filter on
and I can look like that.
Awesome, wow.
I, I've never used a
filter just for the record.
I did just the other day, remember?
Oh, you did.
Not to make yourself look better though.
I used a bald filter just to see,
show what I looked like being bald.
It was horrible.
I deleted the picture, it was so bad.
Gotta keep my hair.
Oh, I think you'll be just fine.
Yeah.
Hopefully, yeah.
Your papa had beautiful silver hair,
so you'll be fine.
I agree to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's profound though.
I think that's profound.
That's life's biggest lie is
that at some point you make it.
Yeah.
And maybe a small handful of people do.
And that's similar to, not
to get too deep into it here,
but everybody's like, you know,
do what you're passionate about
and you'll never work a day in your life.
And that's a great goal to have.
And some people hit that,
but I think it's the minority.
I think it's the minority.
Now you can still like what you do.
You can still even love what you do
and the people that
you work with and stuff.
But it may not be your life's passion.
I might not choose to do that
if someone handed me a
half a billion dollars.
I might choose to do
something totally different
because it's not my passion.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And I'm someone who I
love what I do, right?
But at the same time, is it,
I give everything I can to my job.
But at the end of the
day, it's who I come home to.
Yeah.
That is paramount.
And it's the reminder of why I work hard,
not just because it
helps provide for them,
but it shows them an example of hard work
and dedication and all of that.
Like it, but I don't know that
I don't know that anybody
ever has it figured out.
And even people who are
living like that ideal life,
you think about musicians and whatever,
I mean, truly they have to be passionate
about what they do.
Yeah.
But at the same time, there's actually,
I don't know any of
them, but you hear interviews
and things like that of all
the downsides to what they do.
You were just at your convention
and that guy told you he
wrote a whole song about that.
Whole song about it, yeah.
He sang the song, it's a great song.
Tyler Rich, I'll give
a little plug for him.
It was a great song, I
can't remember the name of it,
but it was about, he's like,
"You're on stage for
two hours out of the day."
This song is about the
other 22 hours out of the day.
Yeah.
And it--
That you're missing.
That you're missing, he's like,
"Yeah, every big event
and anyone that I love,
any big event in
their life, I've missed."
And it's like, wow,
that's, it's really sad.
Because everybody just sees the sexy side
of what they think success is.
Again, we could get
really deep into this one,
but I think it is
important to talk through it
because we've been blessed in our lives.
If someone who told me
I live a life like this,
I would have said, "Oh
my God, you're kidding me,
that's fantastic."
You know what I mean?
We've been blessed.
But I still have
conversations with you all the time
that I don't know how
other people do certain things
with, like afford certain things,
because we do well,
and there's people that
do way better than us,
but I just, being in finance,
I have an idea of where we sit,
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
For the most part, and
I just, I can't imagine,
it just blows my mind that
other people do certain things,
and I'm like, wow, I don't know how
they're affording that.
Because we do well, and if
we were to just show off,
if we were to show all the
positive parts of our life,
it would probably look
really good from the outset,
like we're just living
this incredible life.
But it's not, I mean, it is
great, we have a great life,
but there's ups and downs in it,
and nobody talks about that part of it.
No one talks about it.
And that's the part I
was talking about earlier,
it's like I'm 48
years old, and it's like,
I do have a lot figured
out, but gosh, dang it,
I have a lot I don't have figured out.
Am I a better person than I used to be?
Yeah, am I more mature?
Yeah, do I make better decisions?
Yeah, all these
things, do I make more money?
All these things are
yeses, but that doesn't mean
the top of the hill has
been reached, to your point.
And I don't know if you ever do.
I think at some point, you just start
getting tired of it,
and you're okay with what you have,
because the top of that hill that
everybody thinks they want
in this culture, maybe just ends up
being a little bit unattainable.
Yeah, I think part of that is,
I think that's partly true.
I don't know, maybe I'll cut all that.
I think it's true though, it really is.
And I think you're all just searching.
I remember a couple
years ago at Thanksgiving,
we were at my parents'
house, and my dad was like,
I always pretended like
I had it all together,
but I was scared to death every day.
I didn't know how to be a
dad, I didn't know how to do it.
I didn't even know he was
actually talking about work,
and there's so many
things where it was like,
I don't know how to do
that, but I'll figure it out.
Yeah, rare moment behind
the curtain with your dad.
I've never seen that side of him,
but I'm glad he had that with you.
Because we were
talking about how it's like,
you don't have it figured out.
Why did our parents have it figured out?
And he looked at, when
we were talking to him,
he was like, I didn't
have it figured out.
I still don't have it figured out.
Glad you all thought I did.
And he's in his 70s now, so that's great.
20 more years of not
having it figured out.
But what we do have to
figure out is enjoying the kids,
enjoying the life that we have.
I talk about it all the
time, that's paramount.
It's just enjoying the time we have now,
as tough as it is.
Yeah, in just a little
moment, I think that's key.
But, you know, one step forward,
and I think that, I
think a lot of people--
Another step forward?
Not two steps back, right?
Step forward.
Just, that's it.
Please don't take too
many steps back, yeah.
Stop period.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Too funny.
We'll see.
Well-- Where did we get there?
What else we got going on this weekend?
We had, it was Memorial
Day weekend this weekend.
You had your first day off in--
My first three day weekend
since Martin Luther
King Jr. Day, in January.
So I am loving having
a three day weekend.
We've also been getting
lots and lots of surprises
that Amazon is delivering to us.
So that's been, it
was a little bit anxiety
provoking over the last few weeks,
but you called Amazon,
but I'll let you get into the story.
Well, I mean, there's not a
whole lot of the story to it.
We are getting a lot of
packages, a lot of packages--
A lot.
For, I'm gonna say Sam Smith.
It wasn't Sam Smith.
It was not our name, but to our address.
100%.
Every single one of them to our address.
Packages and packages and packages.
And I, finally I caught, one time I
caught the Amazon guy.
And I said, look, this is not me.
These aren't my packages.
Cause he was delivering like three more.
And I said, I've got like
seven more in my garage.
So I gave them all to him to take back
cause they're not ours.
Well, the next day, those
plus like five more showed up.
He redelivered them
and added like five more.
So we have like 16
Amazon packages to Sam Smith,
to our address.
Our address. Just sitting in our garage.
The guy asked you, right?
Like, well, did this
person used to live here?
I think your response was, well,
the person who lived on this property
has been deceased for five years.
So I hope not.
Yeah, I didn't say it that
way, but no, I mean, I mean,
I mean, I told him, I said, no,
we're the only ones that
have lived here, you know,
in the last, we've owned this
property for four years now.
We built a house on here.
So I mean, no, the person, it was a
vacant home before this.
So anyways, yeah.
So twice though I sent them back, twice,
and they redelivered them.
So I finally called
cause there's some scams
that could potentially happen.
I don't know how they work,
cause I can't figure out
how we're getting scammed.
I think Amazon or someone
else is getting scammed.
I don't think we're getting scammed.
I hope not.
We're just the beneficiaries
of just getting all these things.
So I called Amazon and they're like,
they looked it up, they
looked up the tracking number
because I'm not the account
holder, they can't verify it.
And she said, well, at this point,
we appreciate you calling in
and letting us know and
being honest about it,
but you can just open the
packages and donate them
to whoever might need them.
And when this other person calls in
and realizes that there's a problem,
because backtracking here.
This is what's crazy.
Amazon is quick to deliver.
This has been going on for two weeks now.
Yeah, and some of
these things are like, hi,
now that I've opened the boxes.
Cause we hadn't.
Cause we had not up
until last night, really.
Right, right.
And if these things had not showed up
within a day or two at my house after
having said delivered,
I mean, if the dog
food says it's delivered
and it's not sitting on our doorstop,
I'm questioning where it's at.
Like, do they stuff it in the mailbox?
Or is it across the street?
Where's the dog food?
Right, and that's not a high value item.
No.
But there were some high
value items, not super high,
but just some nicer items.
I would be wondering where they were
when they say they're delivered.
Yeah.
Anyways, long story short,
it's like Christmas
for a lot of weird stuff.
It is the weirdest thing.
We got another one today,
which was an automatic
ear cleansing system.
Uh-huh.
Or Sam Smith.
I don't know what.
Sam Smith is actually a singer.
Maybe we should have
picked a different name.
It's fine.
Anyway.
It's very gentle.
Are Sam Smith, I don't know
what is wrong with his ears
or why you would ever
want to clean your ears.
It's like a massive thing
that goes, I was reading it.
I was like, what is that?
It's a whole contraption that
goes to the side of your head
and somehow cleans your ear.
But we've got so many weird
things, so many weird things.
So many weird things.
One's like a steering wheel to a car.
One's a solar fan.
Couple of DeWalt
batteries, which are expensive.
Yeah.
I mean, a bunch of
just weird little things
and they keep coming.
How many have been delivered just today?
Just the one, because we
actually delivered ours.
Oh, okay.
That was the ear one,
the ear cleansing one.
Oh, I thought there was another one
that was on the front door
when you came out, but.
Oh, there was, I haven't opened it.
Yeah, you're right,
there is another one there.
We have another one, yay.
I mean, it's like, what
weird item are we gonna get now?
And is there a list I
can put my wants on,
like a wish list instead?
Because some of these are worthless.
I have a good wish list.
Okay, and that's the other thing,
because the lady was like,
you can just donate them.
Who's gonna want an automatic wish list?
Guess what, family?
No more checks for Christmas this year.
Oh my gosh, weird.
You guys are getting some
good Amazon redeliveries.
You're kidding, the Roach Killer?
Yeah, a supersonic
something killer, yeah.
Yeah, uh-huh, I'm like
white elephant gifts.
Automatic bird feeder.
Yeah.
Two personal, what are they?
Air conditioning units, we
actually have one of those.
We actually do, but now we have--
We've never used it, now we have three,
so everybody can have
their own personal one
around a chain or something.
Anyway, so that's been fun, so we'll see.
Hopefully that just keeps on coming.
That's the gift that
doesn't stop giving, Clark.
It's better than the
Jelly of the Month Club.
Better than the Jelly of the Month Club.
I don't really even know
what to do with this stuff.
I know, I will donate quite a bit of it,
because I don't need any of it really.
Right, but where do
you go to donate this?
Some of it's so weird.
Like, I just, if you're going to a place
where Goodwill or a
place where you can get
donated items, are you really getting
an automatic ear cleaner?
Oh, one of them's a really
nice pair of hearing aids.
So if anybody needs
hearing aids, hit us up.
Maybe these are our freebie giveaways
for some sort of
podcast thing that we do.
We'll do some sort of contest
when we're on the cruise ship, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And these are our
freebies that people get.
You get hearing aids.
Smash that like button.
(laughing)
You get the Roach Killer.
You get the hearing aids.
You get the steering wheel.
Like a steering wheel?
It's like for a nice car.
I bet that one's probably the most,
that one's worth the most money.
That one might be
weirder than the ear cleaner.
What do you do with the steering wheel?
It looks like a
sports car steering wheel,
like aftermarket one.
Do people change their steering wheels?
Apparently.
We also got like an
oil, no, a brake bleeding,
a brake fluid bleeding system.
Wow.
Yeah.
So if you need that too, hit me up.
Just, yeah.
Just DM us or whatever, I don't know.
DM, man, you sound so in the end.
I sound so tacky.
All right, well let's
start wrapping this one up.
Yeah.
That was fun, yeah, that
was a fun one, so we'll see.
I don't know, that is
so, it's the oddest thing.
It feels wrong.
Lastly, I told her, I
did say to the Amazon lady,
like I just want to be sure
I'm doing the right thing here.
Yes.
Because I don't know what
to do with these packages.
They are not mine.
They are not yours.
And she said, "We
appreciate your honesty."
A lot of people may not
have called in and said this,
but those, we'll take
care of him when he calls in.
As of right now, those packages,
you can donate to
whoever might need them, so.
Well, if anybody needs the
items that we referenced.
If you guys have really dirty ears,
we're happy to donate that.
Absolutely, it is all yours.
No pictures for that
though, just we'll trust you.
We don't need proof.
Just like we don't need proof that you
need a steering wheel,
like just let us know.
It's sitting in our garage at this point,
just taking up space.
I might put that one on,
I was gonna say YouTube,
not YouTube, what's the eBay?
Yeah, I'm gonna put that one on eBay.
It'll be like $500.
And then we'll do a 500 hour cash prize.
Yeah.
I don't know, do I do
what I'm talking about?
Okay, let's come up with our endings.
Okay, got our word for the week.
All right, so we're
gonna come up with our word.
Everybody come up with your word too.
This just sums up our last week, right?
See if anybody gets the
same thing that we do.
And I on the third
episode, got the same exact word.
Yeah, exact same word.
Which was pretty crazy.
And we haven't done it since,
but I might cheat a
little bit on this one
and put a hyphen in one of my words.
So I just checked with the
rule guy and he's okaying it.
Okay, okay.
All right, so here we go, ready?
One, two, three.
Check the box.
Check the box.
Is that hyphen?
No, I like that.
We're checking a lot of boxes.
Checking a lot of boxes off.
I've had a lot of to-do list items done.
Yeah, you did.
Vacation to this island.
Yep, yeah.
Going to Oregon for the
track meet with our daughter.
Yeah.
Lots, checking the boxes this week.
Lots of it.
I was just thinking like summertime,
so I mean, we're
thinking about the same stuff
because mine was like
summertime and all the plans
that you're making and all
the fun stuff that you're doing.
I mean, all the check the boxes things,
have all been fun things
that we've been planning for.
It felt a little bit
summertime-ish yesterday
because we really kind of just sat
outside by the pool.
Yeah, we had some to-dos here and there,
but we spent more time with the pool
than we have in a while.
Oh yeah, I mean, we were cool.
We were in our, I mean, we
were sitting there outside
and doing a lot of the to-dos, right?
Like, so. Yeah, yeah, nice.
I love it.
All right, well, what
are we looking forward
to this next week?
No school, first full week without,
I guess it's not even a full week.
It's a short work week.
All the kids are home,
so hopefully that won't be too chaotic.
Yeah.
Get outside.
Get outside, go play.
Oh, it'll be fun.
Get your touches in.
Yeah, that'll be, yeah.
Oh yeah, we'll be looking forward to
having our daughter back.
And you don't travel,
do you travel next week
or is it two weeks that you travel?
Weeks. All right.
We still have a little
while there, but yeah.
Short week. Yep.
And it's just the summer pace.
Like, we still have practices at night
and things like that,
but it's still the summer pace.
Medium pace.
Oh, I love that, Sandler.
All out there.
Girl, I gotta laugh at you.
I always liked that, you did it twice.
Like, I throw out a joke,
so either my joke is
an inside joke too much
or not funny enough that
you always explain it like,
that was Adam Sandler, right?
(laughing)
Just reinforcing that
I thought it was funny.
Yeah, yeah, that's funny, yeah.
Thank you for doing that.
I love him there, it's funny,
so I'd love to throw it
back to him, that's great.
Yeah, it's funny.
All right, well, let's say goodbye.
Thanks for joining us.
I always appreciate you guys tuning in.
All right, until next time.
Until next time, see ya. See ya.
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