Man in America Podcast

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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. And, folks, tonight, we have a very special show for you. We're gonna be doing a live question and answer about everything related to prepping and preparedness. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

You might wanna call it prepping one zero one, everything from food, water, self protection, energy, whatever questions you might have. I've got a handful of questions that came in before the show, but also any questions that you have during the show, let us know. Right? So whether you're watching on Rumble or, you know, the other different media platforms, just drop in your question. All I ask is write all caps question, and put your question in, and we'll make sure that we can try to get it answered.

Seth Holehouse:

So my guest today is a a good friend of mine. His name is Clayton Lewellen, and he is the founder and CEO of a survival company called Heaven's Harvest. So we're diving into a lot. Okay? So and if you look around the country right now, I mean, literally, as we're doing this show live right now, hurricane Milton is wreaking havoc on Florida.

Seth Holehouse:

And not just the hurricane, but there's been over a hundred tornadoes they have touched down, and not just small tornadoes, like serious tornadoes. So this is a weather system. Like, I can't remember in my life ever seeing this. Now, you know, maybe a hundred years ago, we saw it, but I have a feeling that there is some sort of suspicious manipulation with these weather systems that I've I've been covering a lot lately. And it's also it's crazy that it's, like, just seemed like it was a couple of days ago that we had hurricane Helene that just completely wreaked havoc on a lot of America.

Seth Holehouse:

And we also have a massive wildfire out in Wyoming right now, and we you know, even I think it was almost a year ago, exactly, a year and a month or two, we had the Maui fires. So the amount of disasters that are happening, it just seems to be seems to me, my own observation is that we're having more and more serious catastrophic disasters, and the the frequency is increasing. And, you know, is it something to do with the election? Is it is it something that kinda lays the groundwork for some sort of climate emergency, which gives the current administration, you know, kind of powers beyond regular powers? There's a lot of speculation, but what I do know is that the topic of preparedness is at the forefront of a lot of people's thinking.

Seth Holehouse:

A lot of folks I've been talking to, because I've been covering, you know, prepping for for years now, and folks that, you know, I'm talking to her saying, hey, Seth. You know, what kind of generator do you recommend, or how many months of food should I get? Or, hey. How how is it you're storing your rice and grains, etcetera? So, you know, people are thinking a lot more about this, which is good.

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Seth Holehouse:

Alright. So I wanna go and bring on my good friend, Clayton. So, Clayton, thank you so much for joining us tonight. It's a it's a pretty important time to talk about preparedness. So thanks for being here.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Seth, thanks for having me, and you hit the nail on the head there. This is about as real as it gets.

Seth Holehouse:

It is. It is. I know that your your hometown's in Florida and and, you know, right now in between, you know, kind of doing our show, you're watching what's happening and probably sadly seeing a lot of destruction where you're from. I think near down near Sarasota area. And I know you're also up you're up in Georgia.

Seth Holehouse:

So, you know, her the Helene disaster is is pretty close, you know, too close for comfort. So let me just kinda start just, you know, kind of with your introduction. I'll allow you to introduce yourself you know, you're introduce yourself. So you're the founder of Heaven's Harvest, which you focus on survival food, seeds, you know, water storage, survival supplies. You know, you're someone who's really built a business on providing supplies for people that want to be prepared.

Seth Holehouse:

So what got you into that? Why you know, is it you woke up one day, like, you know what? I wanna start a survival company. Like like, what led you to where you are?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Ironically, a hurricane.

Seth Holehouse:

There you go.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Probably fifteen years ago, we were living in Florida, living in Palmetto, Palmetto is right just South of Tampa, just North of Bradenton, right where the hurricane's at right now. But we were getting ready for a hurricane and man, everybody's running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I mean, you're trying to get to the grocery store to buy food, you're trying to get water, you're trying to board up your house. And at that time I was listening to another conservative talk show host at the time that was promoting this brand of food. I'm not gonna say who it was or what it was, but I ordered it, it was a year's supply worth of food.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And when it showed up at my house, it was garbage. It was full of stuff you didn't need. What they said was a year's worth of food really wasn't a year's worth of food. All they were doing was saying you needed three meals a day or three servings, a breakfast, lunch, and a dinner. They just failed to tell you that that was about the size of a tablespoon.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So it was a little over three months worth of food is what actually came and we were being sold, it was a year's worth of food. So that kind of got me into it. And we were working on the farms down there at the time. I was just watching the farmers spray the field constantly with chemicals thinking, man, this is what I'm feeding my kids. So it was kind of two things there that got us into it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, one of them, the food they were eating and the other one having a family and realizing there was more to take care of now than just myself during these hurricanes. So that got us into it. And, you know, seeing what was on the market, it was just it was sad. You know, it was it was all a lie.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, I I came into the a similar place in my own. Obviously, I I didn't start a survival food company, but, you know, at different points, I went out and bought a bunch of this, you know, these terrible food, and I and I started looking into it. It's like, okay. Well, there's, you know, like, you know, why why am I getting Kool Aid, like, sugary Kool Aid packets? It adds calories, it reduces the cost per calorie, but it's like, how's that gonna help me?

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Aside from maybe a little bit of momentary comfort, but even then, it's like you feel crappy afterwards. And so so, obviously, you know, you live and breathe, you know, preparedness and and and survival. So I guess, like, actually, there's a question. In the past couple of months, especially, I imagine since, you know, the hurricanes, but, you know, as we've witnessed the tensions build in this country, it's not just natural disasters.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? It's not just a preparation for natural disasters. It's preparation for civil war, preparation for some sort of enemy attack. I mean, this is what I'm looking at all the different vectors of attacks that the, you know, that are coming against us here in America. It is it is from every single angle.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, it could be from the a UN troop invasion. I mean, who knows what what it is? But you say in the past year or so, or I guess, you know, really that you've had however long, have have you seen an uptake? Are you seeing that there's a lot more more Americans that are saying, hey. I don't feel safe anymore, and I need to be more prepared?

Clayton Llewellyn:

No. It absolutely is. And, man, remember a few years back when you told when you told people you bought survival food and you were a prepper? It was Yeah. Negative conversation to it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I mean, you know, many people didn't wanna talk to you about it, didn't wanna be your buddy, like, thought you were weird. Like, people are starting to take it more seriously now, you know? And it's scary that enough people haven't taken it seriously, but you're really starting to see a lot more people take it seriously. And it's the only thing we're seeing right now are these localized events. We're 60 miles away from where all the bad floods were in North Carolina.

Clayton Llewellyn:

That's such a small localized event and you see how well FEMA responds to that. That's another thing we can talk about. I've been pretty upset about that whole deal, but I mean, that's a localized event and the government can't take care of people in that small area. I can promise you in another two days, you're gonna hear the same story out of Florida. But Seth, gets I think what people are starting to wake up to now is the fact that, like, I mean, if the power grid goes out on the East Coast or if our water is tampered with, or if there's a solar flare that knocks everything out, this is like regionals.

Clayton Llewellyn:

This or this is regional now. This is like half the country or the whole country. Like, you know, we've seen how incompetent our government is, but, you know, and on the other hand, why are we relying on the government to take care of us? I mean, they don't do anything efficiently as it is. You think they're gonna come to your rescue efficiently?

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know? So it's a lot of people are waking up. You know? It's we're getting a lot better questions, you know, about what we need, how to do this, where do I start. You know, and it's not just the preppers anymore.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, we really track where the orders go. And it shocked me how many people in the cities are really starting to take heed, to, you know, understand what's going on. And maybe it was COVID that did it to them, you know, like, holy cow, you know, if something like this happens again, we can't get out. I'm stuck in my apartment starving to death, you know, so it's people are waking up.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. It's it's kinda crazy because when I first got really into preparedness, I was living I think I was on the 40 Second Floor of a high rise in New York City. And that's when, you know, that's when it kinda hit me. And I'm not sure why. This is probably a decade ago or so, and I became obsessed with EMP disasters.

Seth Holehouse:

And so I started studying, like like, woah. It's like an EMP, which a lot of our enemies have the technology, right, to to to, you know, kinda carry out an EMP attack. Like, when I read about that, I was just like, oh, man. This is, like, this is really serious. Then I was like, okay.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, you know, of course, America. This is like this is America. We must have, like, a really hardened grid and everything. I started looking into that. It's like, oh, no.

Seth Holehouse:

Like like, if our grid goes down, it's gonna take them years because they're ordering all the stuff from China. Right? Like and, actually, there's even a study that they found that our our transformers that have were coming from China actually had a backdoor in them, and they could be turned off remotely. Right? So, like, our our grid as it is is so vulnerable.

Seth Holehouse:

And that was when I first discovered a guy named Jonathan Hollerman, who I've interviewed a handful of times, and, he's got a company called Grid Down Consulting where he's you know, he he, you know, he's an, you know, prolific author, but he goes and he actually consults people on building bunkers and survival, and he he'll he'll go into someone's, you know, 40,000,000, you know, dollar, you know, bunker compound, and he'll show them all the security falls and all that kind of stuff. And so I found him and started reading his books, and then I you know, it got me really into it. But then, you know, obviously, I I left the city, and now we're we live out in the country and everything, obviously. And but it's I think a lot of Americans are going through this process of realizing just how vulnerable we are. And I think that there's a there's a normalcy bias or a cognitive dissonance for a lot of Americans.

Seth Holehouse:

It's like, well, America's always been great since I've been alive, and it always will be. And and I think that's that's a scary thing because you brought up a good point in saying, just look at Helene and look at the disaster of of of the response from the government where, you know, the more you look at it, it's almost like you say, you know, the only thing the only way you can make sense of it is that they're intentionally trying to sabotage things. It's the only conclusion I can come to. So you look at this, and it's like, what happens if that was something that was 10 times the size? What happens if there's a a a nuke that goes off, you know, somewhere, you know, from, you know, some deep state actor?

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, it's like our government's not gonna come save us. Actually, I think a lot of ways, they'll use the opportunity to to bring in the tyranny that they really secretly want. So, yeah, it's it's a really important point you brought up, though.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, it's funny. You you were talking about transformers. Like, I worked in an industry for a little while.

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, there you go.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You can vouch for that. Like, I mean, that is there's none of them are made here. You're not buying an extra one at Home Depot. They're all coming from overseas. And I mean, you could they're very vulnerable, extremely vulnerable.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, I mean, shut the East Coast down in a half hour and it'd take years to get it back online, years. You know, and Seth, the Helene thing, like, you know, you just we we moved from the cities out into the country. And, you know, in the last four years after COVID, we've watched millions of Americans relocate, millions relocate. Thousands of them moved to Asheville, moved to those mountains in Asheville in case something bad happens again, they're in the country. And can I tell you what's been the most frustrating part about this whole storm?

Seth Holehouse:

What's that?

Clayton Llewellyn:

All those people that bought those houses on the hill to escape something bad happening are asking the government where they're at to take care of them. We're dropping water off to them. We're dropping food off to them. And it's been frustrating to think you spent all that money to get out of the city, to move into the country, to be able to take care of yourself and you can't make it for three days. Like we've been volunteering over there.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I witnessed it firsthand. Like it's frustrating. And there's people over there that lost everything. Those are the folks we need to be helping. Not the ones that lost a road and can't live in their house for a week.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, and it's we we've talked about this for years. You know what mean? This was a hurricane that washed a road out. Their their generators are out of gas and they can't keep the refrigerator cold anymore. Like, how much gas do you think you can keep on hand?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Yes. There's there's just the whole thing has frustrated me. It's aggravated me, and I hope it's woken a lot of people up to to how serious this situation is.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. I I do think that it is. I I absolutely do think that it is. So you so getting you more into, the the nuts and bolts of preparedness, you know, one of the questions that came in that I think is a good place to start with is, actually, I've got her here, is how long should I have a food and water supply for? And, you know, I get asked this a lot, and and, you know, I'd love to hear your response to that because it's it's like what my wife says.

Seth Holehouse:

A lot times I ask her a question, she goes she'll say, well, how long is a piece of string? Right? It's like, okay. She's she's Australian, so she's real sarcastic. But, you know, if someone if if someone came to you and said, hey.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, Clayton, look. I've got a family of five. Let's say a typical American family. Family of five. We live in, you know, live in suburbia, you know, and and, know, say middle income.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, people that have some extra money. Right? Not like the billionaires or the multimillionaires that are buying, you know, thirty years worth of food. Right? If someone comes to you like that and say, look.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, what would you recommend in terms of how long I should plan for having a a food supply and a water supply for?

Clayton Llewellyn:

That's a hard question. Where's your wife at? Can we ask her? Yeah. That's that's a hard question.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And I've thought about this a lot. And I'll tell you what, I even I was pondering it the other day, and I know I'm late to the party here, but I watched that movie, leave the world behind.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I know that's an old movie and it's not well made, but even as somebody in the survival food business and the survival industry, like it opened my eyes again. How much is enough? You know what I mean? I guess it really all depends on your budget, but man, I three months, six months, a year. And this is how I'm gonna answer that question.

Clayton Llewellyn:

If you can take care of yourself for a month, I think the rest of the world is going to go to hell. Like it's going to fall apart that fast. So I think being able to hunker down and stay safe for a month is a minimum, an absolute minimum, because I don't think society will last much past that. I think you'll see riots, you'll see neighbors killing neighbors. So I think a month is probably a good start.

Clayton Llewellyn:

After that, I think you need to have at least six months in backup. And the thing is, Seth, you can never buy enough survival food for a lifetime. This is kind of what got us into the seed deals when we started really getting serious about this. Unless you're one of these billionaires that's got a bunker and can put thirty years worth of food in it, even at some point after thirty years, you're gonna have to come out and start growing your own food or killing your own animals. Like that's just gonna be the reality of it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So I think if you can get a good six months worth of food stored up and have a vegetable seed kit or a garden or something like that to supplement it, I think after six months you'll find yourself eating more on the garden and what's around you than the survival food in your bunker. But I honestly believe, and again, this was after watching that movie, I think a month is a necessity. Gotta have a month. And that that'll get you through that that first four weeks of society just completely breaking down. As far as water goes, again, you can't store enough water for a lifetime.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You've got to have at least a month's worth tucked away somewhere, but you need to have a filtration set up after that. You need to have a clean source set up somewhere after that. So I hope that helps. I know that's very vague. But

Seth Holehouse:

No. No. It is it is helpful, and I've thought a lot about this. I've actually as as, you know, you you're aware of, I'm writing a book on this right now. As I'm thinking through, it's like like, what what's the advice I give people on how much water?

Seth Holehouse:

You know? And, you know, one thing I've come to is is roughly a gallon per day per person, right, which covers, you know, some hygiene, you know, drinking water, obviously. But, you know, what I've also come to in so many instances, whether it's food or water or anything beyond that, that you have to have something that's sustainable for the long term. Right? Even if you've got a thousand gallons of gasoline that you're you can run your generator for a year, which actually, you know, might only last you, you know, less than a month, and then, you know, the gas goes bad for six or twelve months and ends up, you know, clogging up your carburetor or whatever it is.

Seth Holehouse:

It's all gummy. You know, it doesn't matter. Like, it's actually there's kind of a way I look at it is, like, there's, like, the short term, you know, preparedness, and there's a long term preparedness. The short term preparedness, I agree. Like, in my opinion, a month is is the bare minimum.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? And what's encouraging is that from the research I've done and just my own assessment, you know, a month already puts you well past the majority of households in America. Right? This isn't, you know, Great Depression era where every family had a root cellar, every family had a garden, every family knew how to process a chicken or how to clean a fish or how to catch a fish. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

We we live in a very different time now, and those skills aren't that readily available. So even having a month and the ability to hunker down and protect your family, which will get into self protection in this, I'm sure, that goes a long way. But the key is is what I, you know, agree with is that you have to have something that you can generate more food and more water. Right? So having a clean water source, you know, whether it's through a small river that you can filter, you know, a stream if you have a well, and, you know, they make, there's a handful, you know, of companies that make, like, flow jack.

Seth Holehouse:

I think they make these, you know, drop in say, have a, you know, 50 foot well, you can get a drop in manual pump. Even with no electricity, you can still be pumping water out of your well. But also there's you know, you mentioned, you know, clean water and filtered water, and this is something that if you look at what happens in disaster scenarios, a lot of what ends up killing people is that they're drinking from the local river that has bodies in it, and that is, you know, full of disease, and so people end up, you know, even even, you know, like a bad case of diarrhea can kill you if you're in a situation where you can't go get an IV or you can't go get an antibiotic. So, yeah, I I do agree with your assessment though that, you know, at least a month my personal recommendation, well, I always tell people, say, look, aim for at least three to six months per per person. Like, that's, you know, to me, that's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse:

If your bare minimum is a month, even if you've got no money, still try to get that point where you've got a month. If you can't afford it, three to six months, to me, is the is the bare minimum of of food and water.

Clayton Llewellyn:

No. I agree with that. Absolutely. You know, and that what you said a second ago about sustainability, like and that's and again, we just witnessed this firsthand in North Carolina. Like the National Guard, like they're spending their efforts dropping off water and gas.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like and again, I hate to say it, that was frustrating to watch. And you start I started talking to my family, you know what I mean? Like, are you guys ready for this? Well, yeah, we've got 15 gallons of gas and you know we've got a case of water and it's frustrating. Again, the generators are important, but you're going to run out of gas.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You're absolutely going to run out of gas. We were taking generators to people that had generators and they quit working. And I think it's so important that we learn how to do this without electricity, without water. That's how you're gonna have to survive. And quite honestly, if it's really that bad, I don't wanna be running a generator anyway.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, I mean, that's just you're inviting everybody to come you know, somebody over there has got power. We're going that way. You know? So it's learning how to do this without the the everyday, everyday things we have without the electricity, without the power. I think that's one of the most important things.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Because like I said, we just witnessed this firsthand and it's crazy, turn the power off and people are lost. I mean, lost. And the thing is we're saving all our resources. We're spending all our effort trying to get these people gas to run a generator for their house. Man, learn to do this without a generator.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's gonna be dark at night. Get a candle. These things. We don't have to be on these things every minute. You know?

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's just so it's no. What what you're saying is absolutely true.

Seth Holehouse:

One perspective that has really helped me a lot in in looking at prepping, you saw I I think it's one of Mike Adams' books where he talks about high-tech, low tech, and no tech. Right? And and saying that, you know, say a a a diesel tractor, that's a that's a piece of high-tech equipment. Right? Especially a newer one.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Then you have low tech, then you have no tech. Right? And so he talks about this and how it's really it's it's the no tech stuff that survives. Like, a wood burning stove, for instance, is no tech.

Seth Holehouse:

A wood burning stove will work for a hundred years with no electricity, nothing. It'll heat your house. And and that's something actually I I think is is worth even kinda touching on there is just the just the importance of being able to get through winter. Obviously, if folks are in Florida, you know, they're not gonna be worrying about freezing to death. You know, to me, actually, the the concern is mold.

Seth Holehouse:

If if Florida has no power for a whole summer, you know, the amount of mold that's gonna be built up you know, these homes aren't built, right, to run without air conditioning. Right? Like, that's something a lot of people don't think about is that, right, like, the the modern homes, if you can't have air circulation and air conditioning, those homes become mold factories within a couple of months of living in a wet environment like Florida. Actually, I see so I'll let you comment on that because I'm sure you you grew up

Clayton Llewellyn:

in in the Florida area. Mean, Katrina, that was a huge problem when went into Louisiana. Even the houses that didn't get damaged where you had to tear them down or completely gut them because of mold. And we've seen that in Florida, like when the power went out down there for a month at a time, like the houses are trashed. I mean, they're completely gutted.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And it's funny you brought that up because I've never heard anybody else bring that up, but that's the truth.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's I I live in kind of the I guess, I I'm I'm very cautious about telling me where I live because I I used to live in Ohio, and I had people, like, actually showing up to my house. So somehow people were figuring all they knew is I lived in Ohio, and I saw people finding me. So, you know, we've moved since then, and so now I I I don't even know what state I'm in.

Seth Holehouse:

But the region I'm in, you know, it's a four season area. We have winters and everything, and we just bought our house earlier this year. And we I literally just finished building a an outdoor firewood shed, a three sided firewood shed that'll hold, I think, six or eight cords of firewood, you know, so that way it keeps it dry. And that's a that's a big thing actually is is for people, you know, in terms of electricity and everything is just heating. I know that, you know, you're in in Georgia, but, you know, I know, you you know, you guys get snow.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, you have cold you have cold winters sometimes, and you have stuff that's cold enough. So, I mean, what's what's your advice for people from the perspective of being able to to to survive through a winter with no power?

Clayton Llewellyn:

No. That's that is that's that's important. But like you said, a lot of it, for the ones that live in the country, I agree with you a %. A wood burning stove is they're they were they've been around for hundreds of years, they'll be around for hundreds more. You got a lot of people in the city that can't do that.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You got a lot of people in, like suburbia that can't do that, you know? So it's again, there's so much to this, Seth. You know what I mean? Like clothing. We went for thousands of years before we even figured out fire wrapping up in animal skins, you know, and it's have a tote put aside that's just winter clothing that you never touch, you're never gonna wear, that is stuck there for an emergency situation.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, that's the biggest thing we fight with too. It's not fight with, but that we talk about is everybody thinks that if you're in the country, like you've gotta be in the country to survive. You know what I mean? And again, don't think that's gonna be the reality of it. Like we're in just as much trouble out here as you are in Atlanta or in Sarasota or Tampa or, you know, Cleveland, wherever you're at.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like so a fireplace is a good place to start, but I think the proper clothing is just as important and a lot of us don't even carry that anymore. You know, we've got cheap winter jackets, throwaway winter jackets from China. You know, our heaviest pair of pants is jeans. Like we need to have a tote set aside Like, we're going skiing in Alaska or we're going hunting in Alaska. You know, it's one of those things you you may never wear it, but you'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. You know, one thing I'll throw out there, just this little bit of advice that I've come across is, let's just say someone lives in in, you know, in in suburbia, and they say that they say they live in in a, like a, you know, HOA, and they can't have a wood burning fireplace. Right? There's, you know, there's rules like this in certain areas, or they say they can't afford it. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

They know, because we we back in Ohio, the house that we bought had a just a gas a decorative gas stove. Right? So I ripped it out. I I built a brick alcove and put in a I think I put in a a Blaze King, you know, this heavy duty Blaze King. He's, you know, a fire you know, wood burning stove, but the whole project was probably $10,000.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Because I I had to bring in someone else to line the chimney and right? So it it's expensive, but something that, you know, for someone that doesn't have that and can't afford that or, you know, say you're renting and you can't go, you know, put in a a fireplace. Just getting getting a small tent that you you know, a small tent that seals up pretty well that's, you know, windproof and rainproof and some sleeping bags so that if there's a, you know, a cold winter, you know, go as low as you can. So if you have a basement, great.

Seth Holehouse:

It's gonna be warmer. But if your whole family is sleeping in a tent in your living room, even if it's 30 degrees in your house, that tent will get actually pretty warm. So that that is a way that I would recommend just as a as a you know, you mentioned that tote. Right? That backup tote that if you have to get through a winter you know, during the day, if you're out out and about moving around, you've got your, you winter jacket, that's great.

Seth Holehouse:

But to get through those cold nights, that's just a, you know, a quick and easy recommendation that's, you know, real relatively affordable, all things considered. We're to learn to snuggle. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

It's like if you, you know, if you if you've sleeping on the couch for a long time, you finally get to snuggle with your wife again, and she's got no choice. So I've I've got a question. Actually, this is great. So Bill Carroll on Rumble asked, I think, the the perfect question who said he says asks how to communicate and receive information. These emergency radios don't work.

Seth Holehouse:

So communication is is key. I've got some answers, but I I'd love to hear if, you know so, hey, Clayton. What do you recommend for communication? What what would your advice be?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Beth, I'd love to hear your answer on this because I'll be honest with you, that's one of the places I'm stuck in. And after watching that stinking movie, leave the world behind, made me realize that what we have isn't good enough. Because once you get outside of five or 10 miles, I'm lost. Like, I don't that's an area I gotta work on.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, so I'll give you my my kind of my my basic answer. So one is ham radio. Right? So you you can get, you know, actually, it's pretty inexpensive Baofeng, you know, ham radios that you can learn to use. Ham radios is quite complex, though.

Seth Holehouse:

So that, you know, that's that's one thing is ham radio. Even, you know, even for more local, you know, I went and bought a, you know, a bunch of just little Motorola walkie talkies. Right? They're just the the push to talk. Maybe they've got a one mile range.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, it's enough that, you know, if if you're trying to kind of, know, build your community, and that's a whole different discussion, which I wanna get into with you is the importance of community. So that way, you know, say you've got five neighbors and you guys are all watching out for each other, you make sure you get each of you has one of these little Motorola walkie talkies. Now, you know, those aren't gonna be private, so someone else can be listening in. So that's why it's important if you you know, if you're really getting really serious, you're gonna have code words, and you're not gonna say, you know, hey, Billy. I've got an extra five, you know, five pounds of rice you can have.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Come over to my house at this address. Right? So those I'm actually and I'll I'll pull up on our website to show you is, you know, satellite phones. So I literally s a t I think it's s a t one two three is the website Mike Adams always talks about.

Seth Holehouse:

So satellite phone store actually, know, satellitephonestore.com is the the other way to get there. So I literally just last week, I finally bit the bullet, and I I got two items on here. I got one of these Iridium Global. I think I maybe this right here. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

This Iridium nine five five five. It's a sat phone. It's about a hundred bucks a month. Yeah. And it's a hundred bucks a month.

Seth Holehouse:

And, yeah, I think $300 up front, But you get a hundred and fifty minutes, and then it carries over. So you always have it. It always you know, if you don't use that, it kinda carries over the next month. So I got a sat phone like that, and then I also got what's called a BivyStick. So this is the BivyStick right here.

Seth Holehouse:

And what the BivyStick is is it's a little device that allows you unlimited texting. Right? So it's cheaper. They are gosh. Now they're on back order.

Seth Holehouse:

I I feel lucky that I got one because now it's saying they shipped in November because they're on back order. But what a Bivy Stick does for $65 a month, it allows you to take a regular cell phone and and link up to the Bivy stick. And even if the entire cell phone network in America is destroyed or down or inoperable, the Bivy stick has global coverage through satellite. So that will allow you to send a text message, over satellite. So, anyways, this is what we did.

Seth Holehouse:

I got a satellite phone, and I got a Bivy Stick. That way, if we're in a scenario where the phones aren't working, you know, I'll give my wife, you know, the Sat phone or give her the Bivy Stick, or if I have to run out, you know, whatever. So that's one way that, I establish that we you know, for communication. And, also, I think even the not like I trust Apple, but I think even the new iPhones, I think, in the new I think iOS 18 or something like that, you actually you can turn on the ability to actually use satellite. You can use satellite texting.

Seth Holehouse:

So it's a way that they opened up for people in emergency situations that you can use you can use the phone. So even this phone, if you just have an iPhone, for instance, that's already you know, if you can activate that satellite text messaging, even if the network is down, you can do that. The other thing, that I'll I'll mention is Starlink. Alright? So because, you know, we run a home business.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? You know, this this studio is out of our home, which, you know, I used to have an external studio. You know, we decided to build a studio at home for, you know, all the creature comforts, but, you know, we wanted to have redundancy. And so we also signed up. So we we've had Starlink for a couple of years now, just as redundancy, just as backup.

Seth Holehouse:

And the other day, actually, you know, we were planting some trees, and a worker nicked nicked one of my lines for my cable modem. And so our Internet went down. We had no idea what happened, and we pull up the Starlink and set it up, and then, you know, had Internet, for a couple of days off Starlink. So that's another thing, actually. I'm seeing a lot of reports coming out of the, you know, the path of hurricane Helene that there's a folks that just having access to Starlink, and some way of powering it, which I'd love I wanna get into generators and and and, you know, that with you as well, energy, but that was a a game changer.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So now, again, you know, these things, they get expensive. Right? So if you've got Starlink and you've got a a sat phone, all this, it's a couple hundred bucks a month. And for people that are already kinda strained, it's not that, you know, it's not that ideal of a situation, but, you know, that's kind of, like, my more basic answer in terms of of how to handle communication.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Can I throw something else in there real quick?

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Please do. Please do.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I the the the motor the Motorola is like the little walkie talkies. Like, we're good on that. But what made me nervous was, again, after watching that stinking movie, if the satellites go down and the GPS's go down, like, then we're out of range. Like, what do we do then? And we sat down as a family and talked that if something happens, like, we don't go looking for each other, this is where we're meeting.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, I hate to say you're here, you're not, but to wander around trying to find somebody would be next to impossible. So we kind of like a fire drill in your house. You know what I mean? If the house catches on fire, we're all gonna meet on the northwest corner of the house. We kind of did we kind of decided the same thing that if something were to happen, everything goes out, this is where we're meeting and we'll go from there.

Clayton Llewellyn:

That way one of us didn't run around town trying to find the other one. The other thing that really opened my eyes, I do a good bit of traveling and the GPS on my phone is how I used to get everywhere. Like I went and bought an Atlas and threw it back in the vehicle. Like we had an I gotta know how to get home. If, you know, if the if the roads are closed and the everybody's on the interstate trying to get somewhere, you know, is there back roads we can use to get to where we need to go?

Clayton Llewellyn:

So I went and bought an Atlas and put that back in the truck forty years later.

Seth Holehouse:

That is good advice. I remember growing up, we always had Atlases. Right? You know, I remember when MapQuest came out, and you could print off your MapQuest directions. It was it was amazing, but that's great advice.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. You have you're making sure you've got an Atlas. And, actually, I'll I'll throw in a quick thing with that. It's just make sure you've got a lot of information that's offline. You know, we've, built up you know, part or partly because, you know, we my my wife and and for me with Made in America, I'm researching nonstop.

Seth Holehouse:

So we have a whole library of of all kinds of stuff, but we've got books on on preparedness, books on, herbal healing, on alternative medicine, not to mention books on politics and history, etcetera. But, you know, even, you know, right now going on to Amazon or actually even on your website, actually, I'll pull up really quickly here for for for folks just because you you've you've got some good resources. Right? So some of these books like this, like prepping $1.00 1, you know, $16, you know, actually, plus, like, they I think they get a discount on it too. But even a book like this or herbal medic, right, you know, to so emergency medical preparedness and natural first aid, gardening books.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? This is something that, you know, we're used to just flipping open that are not flipping open the phone these days, but, you know, kind activating your phone. And you're you're googling or you're watching a YouTube video, but, you know, if you don't have access to this stuff, the books that you have are priceless. Like, we've even gotten this shirt. If ever heard of the Foxfire set, There's this huge set of books called the Foxfire collection.

Seth Holehouse:

It's like a it's like an encyclopedia of preparedness. We've got the whole collection of that. Right? So that's a key, but I I wanted to actually, you mentioned something really important I wanna touch upon, which is the family plan, And this is something that I think a lot of people overlook is talking to the family, children, etcetera. What do we do if there's a disaster?

Seth Holehouse:

And I think that's an important point. It's like, okay. If if I'm out at the grocery store and an E and P goes off and my truck doesn't work anymore and and, you know, I don't want my wife leaving the home looking for me. Right? Or, you know, my kids are, you know, eight months old and four years old, so they're not driving somewhere.

Seth Holehouse:

There's no plan of, hey. Make sure you come back home. Right? They're always gonna be with us. But can you expand that a little bit?

Seth Holehouse:

Because I think that having a discussion with family about what to do if disaster strikes is really, really important. So I'd love to hear a little more about that from you.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I hate to say there ain't a whole lot to it, but that was pretty much the basics of it. Like, it's and it was get watching that. I hate to keep going back to that movie and referencing something the Obamas did, but it was back to that. You know what I mean? And it was the like you said, it all started with communication.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know what I mean? What do we How do we communicate if something happens? Know I mean? If I'm in Wyoming and you're in Georgia, if I'm at work and you're at home, like how are we going to communicate? And it's just we rely so much on those cell phones that the minute they go off, we're all lost now.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like we don't know what to do. So it was like a combination of those two things that, you know, that's time to be serious about this. The motorolas are great. We're in the mountains. If I'm on the other side of the mountain, like we don't have service.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I can't even hear you on the Motorola. You know, so that was that was like my biggest fear. And if gets chaotic enough, like pick a destination and go to it. You know, you don't wanna be driving around. You don't wanna be out and about.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You wanna get home. You know? And it's the truck's breaking down, like, if an EMP attack. I mean, none of our vehicles work if that is if that happens. You know?

Clayton Llewellyn:

And it's it's even it's even as bad as, like, just a solar flare. You know? There's there's another one I believe heading at us right now. You know? That you know, the one in the eighteen hundreds fried the lines or fried the telegraph lines.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, these things are serious. They do happen. You know? And it's this isn't something of the past. You know, this storm that just hit in Helene that just hit, I'm hearing things now.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's like a once in a thirty thousand year storm. Like, we called it a hundred year storm, then we called it a thousand year storm. And now I'm seeing stuff that says a thirty thousand year storm. So bad things do happen. But it was but picking our picking our location, I don't wanna tell you I don't hear where our location is, but that's all we did.

Clayton Llewellyn:

We kinda we we kinda found somewhere in the middle that that's in our general area. You know what I mean? Where we operate in most of the time that, and I hate to say if we're at home, we're not meeting there. You know what I mean? We're going pick somewhere in the middle, unless we're all at home, we'll stay home.

Clayton Llewellyn:

But we picked an area that's in the middle of everything that we can meet at and then head to head to where we're going. It wasn't a it wasn't an obvious place and it wasn't the farthest place out of town. It was a neutral location that anybody that we can easily access regardless of where we're at in our in our living area.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, it makes sense. It makes sense. I'm I'll bring it up really quickly. So you've mentioned this this movie a few times, leave the world behind. I I you know, it's funny because, yeah, the it's it's a very suspicious movie.

Seth Holehouse:

The Obamas with the executive producers on it. It was at new Netflix. I mean, but I I will say that, like, I've watched it a couple of times, and I made my family watch it. Not not my me like, you know, my parents, etcetera. My sister, I think she watched it because it's a really good eye opening movie on how quickly the world that we think is just always gonna be stable can just kinda completely destabilize.

Seth Holehouse:

And, you know, that's the thing is they and that's, like, the that's what it, you know, what it comes down to with preparedness is it's like you'd rather be six years or ten years early than one day late because, like, you look right now down at what's happening in Florida, the people that are they're, you know, that like, when when the announcement of hurricane Milton, you know, said Milton is coming, the people that didn't have a generator, that didn't have a big store of water, that didn't have, you know, some sort of self protection, they're all rushing to get that stuff, and and it's not accessible anymore. Right? So yeah. You know? But it's such a good saying.

Seth Holehouse:

It's also the other ideas that, you know, one is none and two is one. Right? So redundancy. You have backups for things. But I wanna I wanna talk a little bit about self protection, and, you know, I've I haven't talked guns with you, and and, you know, I'm you're down in Georgia and that you've got, you know, you you know, you've got decent head on your shoulders as it relates to understanding how, you know, what kind of guns are are good and what to use.

Seth Holehouse:

And, you know, my favorite gun makers down there are Danel Defense, which is my, like, my all time favorite maker by far. But so, actually, this is a question that I have. What what as this we're diving into this question first. This is from Trainwreck on Rumble, but then I wanna talk about just kinda, like, the overall strategy for for guns. So train wreck on normal says, what type of self protection is best for people with poor vision and limited use of left hand?

Seth Holehouse:

So that's interesting. So what would you recommend for poor vision, limited use of left hand? It's a pretty specific question, but, like, how would you answer that? If if if, say, your your your great uncle calls you up and says, hey. Clayton, my left hand's not working very well.

Seth Holehouse:

What do I do? My eyes aren't good. What do you recommend?

Clayton Llewellyn:

For an autoloader shotgun. Hey, I'll tell you something that I that I've again, I I trained with I've I've been training or working with a gentleman that won one of the survivor shows, and he's pretty proficient with firearms. And he's taught me a lot on this in the last three or four years. I I had we don't have to talk about guns on here? I guess so.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, and the main audience is on Rumble and YouTube, but there's still guns are okay on YouTube. But, as long as we're not talking about, like, you know, doing bad things with guns or, you know, like, hey.

Seth Holehouse:

Here's here's how you can go print off guns in your own basement. Right? Let's let's not talk about that kind of stuff. But sure.

Clayton Llewellyn:

This is all is all second amendment. We're good to go. Legal guns. He taught me he's taught me some really important stuff. Obviously, I think everybody needs an AR.

Clayton Llewellyn:

If things get bad, that round is gonna be the most widely dispersed round in the country. I mean, it's what the military is using. They're all over the place. And I think a nine millimeter is another gun that you need to have. I think that's a it's not a, it'll hold the most rounds in a magazine.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It doesn't kick hard. I'm a huge fan of Glocks. But what this guy what this guy taught me is and it's funny, I literally sold, I sold a bunch of guns and bought six of the exact same gun. Interesting. That way wherever I'm at, if I learn that one gun really good, wherever I'm at, there's guns in vehicles, there's guns under beds, there's guns under the desk, and they're all the same gun.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So once I learned that one gun, you can turn the lights out and I can operate it efficiently. I can clear jams efficiently. I can reload them efficiently. The same way with your AR. I'll tell you, have you ever trained with an AR?

Seth Holehouse:

Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's amazing. Somebody that really knows what they're doing with an AR, how to operate it efficiently. Like we're all used to just going out there slapping a mag in and pulling the trigger. But learning how to clear a jam, learning how to if it jams, how to roll the gun over and look and see what kind of jam it is and knowing what to do after that. How to shoot from a prone position, how to shoot from behind trees.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like this is all important stuff. And the thing is you need to pull the trigger to become efficient at it. It's like anything else. You know, if you do it once a month, you're never going to be good at it. It's something every weekend, get out, practice it, go buy dummy rounds.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know what I mean? So you can practice in your bedroom. Just make sure the dummy rounds are in the gun and the snap cap rounds, make sure it's not live rounds. But I've literally got magazines labeled like snap cap rounds, you know, that you can practice with clearing the gun, clearing jams, you know. And and it's I do this with my wife.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, Let her hold it every once in a while. Like, go out and shoot it every once in a while. Make sure she knows how to take care of herself. There's four of us. We all need to know how to throw lead downrange.

Seth Holehouse:

Important points. And, you know,

Clayton Llewellyn:

you

Seth Holehouse:

mentioned the you know, you you say AR, which, you know, I think is you know, was the AR 15. Right? So 223 or five five six. Right? You know, super common round, but, I think, you know, it's it's a really important point, and it's something I've been trying to you know, in in building out my own collection, I've tried to you know, I don't I don't have, like, six five Creed more guns.

Seth Holehouse:

And, you know, I've got a 300 blackout AR, which is, you know, kind of a more of a of a fun gun. But, yeah, it's important because that's also something is that if you got some gun that some guy's like, oh, this is there's this new magazine that came out that, you know, military is using. It's just like this new, new round that came out. You know, you want rounds that are so common. Like, you want rounds that if if you go to an old farm, that farmer's got, you know, a box of nine millimeter or 40 fives or 12 gauge that's kinda tucked in the back of some dusty old bench.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, that's the kind of round that you want. I would say for the person and and I'll give a quick answer to the person's, you know, question. So with poor eyesight and with, you know, not being able to use, you know, poor use of, let's say, left hand, in my opinion, that really limits you to a handgun. A a rifle without being able to use two hands, a rifle is is is far less accurate than a handgun, you know, because being able to if you're trying to hold an AR with one hand, even though you've got your your your shoulder there, if you don't know if you haven't trained a lot, trying to shoot any kind of rifle or a shotgun, especially one handed, is is no go. So, you know, my recommendation, even even with poor eyesight, my recommendation would be learning learning on, like, a basic nine millimeter.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So a basic Glock or, you know, M and P, a Smith and Wesson, and P, just a basic nine millimeter handgun, and just get proficient. Even with poor eyesight, just just focus on getting proficient at, you know, 25 yards out or something that's a little more close quarters. So, you know, what what what are your thoughts on that, though?

Clayton Llewellyn:

No. There's a lot of truth to that. And, you know, what's funny is I I like to shoot, sporting clays. And we've gotten into really shooting sporting clays lately. And I was shooting with a gentleman the other day who's from Knoxville, and he's a young guy, like 22 years old.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And Seth, this is a true story. He I went out to take a lesson with him and the sporting clays that I was having a hard time hitting, he was literally shooting them from his hip and breaking them. This is somebody that is proficient with the gun they have trained on. You know what mean? Where he doesn't even have to pull it up to his shoulder and shoot anymore.

Clayton Llewellyn:

He can shoot it from his hip and know where he's hitting. So back to what you're saying about a nine millimeter and, you know, poor eyesight, pointing is is a big part of shooting. You know, knowing where your hand and your eyes are together, knowing, you know, knowing where your hands point knowing the direction your hand's pointing at when you pull the trigger. So there's a lot of truth to that. Like, you don't necessarily have to have the best eyesight to shoot.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, just learning to point, like, is a big part.

Seth Holehouse:

No. It's a good point. Yeah. You're right, actually. Think about all the all the old Western movies where, you know, like, if you had to be quick on the draw, you could you you didn't have time to pull the gun up and shoot.

Seth Holehouse:

They were shooting from the hip. Right? If you look at the the the record speed holders, they're all they're hip shooters. Right? They're not they're not pulling up and shooting it like that.

Seth Holehouse:

And and I guess, you know, kind of going, there's another question that I wanted to, you know, ask you as it relates to that is if someone is just starting off, right, and they they've never used a handgun or a gun, period, but they want to, you know, invest a little bit of time and money into kind of learning how to protect themselves. What would you say if you had to say, okay. Hey. These are the three types of guns I'd recommend, and what are some of these kinds of basic bits of advice for peep someone who's new or has never handled a gun before?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Well, back to kinda what you were saying earlier, like, the and what this guy taught me is the the guns that that he prefers to use are the ones that are readily available. And not just And there's two reasons for that. One, the ammunition is readily available. And two, if something breaks, it's easy to find parts for it. I'm kind of of the simpler is better mindset.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I I love a Glock nineteen. It's it drag it through the mud, throw it in the pond, run over it with the truck, and at the end of the day, it goes boom. And the thing is they're not expensive guns. I mean, they're they're not a high point, but I I wouldn't trust a high point with my life. You know, I I want something that's gonna go bang.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's probably the most widely sold gun or it's probably the most popular gun ever made next to AK 47. So I'm a huge fan of Glock nineteen. The AR, I'll be honest with you, I'm not a fan of the AR. It's just loud that the point two two three is a violent round if you've never shot it. But again, if things get bad, there's replacement parts floating all over the place for that.

Clayton Llewellyn:

$5.05 6 will be all over the place. And then I don't see a third gun I really like is a shotgun. I mean, it's you can you can get bird shot. You can get slugs for it. You can kill a deer, or you can kill a squirrel.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I think those are kind of the three most important guns you could buy. And as far as training goes, if you've never shot before, get with an instructor and learn to shoot. I mean, it's what this country was built on. It's kind of one of those things we've forgotten and it's been done like this on purpose. You know, if I've had friends from the Northeast that were in the South and they moved down here and, we've got hunting guns leaned in the corner and they're petrified of them.

Clayton Llewellyn:

But that's what they've been taught. Like you can't have guns out like, oh my gosh, like something we're gonna go to jail. I can't touch that. Like what? Like oh, yeah.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You can't do that in Massachusetts. You know? So it's it's a mindset that they're teaching us now to be afraid of this stuff. And if they disarm us, we're easily to control. So it's you know, I think it's all part of the plan.

Clayton Llewellyn:

But get with a shooting instructor. Learn how to shoot these things. And look and I man, I've shot guns my whole life. And working with this guy, you know, teach me how to properly use a gun, like, it's completely opened my eyes to like, man, I've been doing this wrong. Like, you know, I thought I knew how to do it, but I didn't.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And I'm somebody I mean, I've shot millions of times. And getting with the proper instructor really helped me out. But it's it's probably no different than anything else. You know I mean? Any of us can attempt to hit a golf ball.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You could get Tiger Woods to show you how hit a golf ball. You're probably gonna do it a little better. And it's the same way with a gun. Find an instructor that really knows what they're doing and can teach you how to use it.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Very, very good point. I will say that, you know, finding an instructor is so critical, especially learning the safe handling, you know, trigger discipline, you know, how to clear a jam, all you know, just just safety. Never never let your gun, you know, pass something that you wouldn't wanna shoot. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

So don't, you know, take your gun out and and have it cross past your leg or, you know, move past your your wife. Right? It's always, you know, knowing, some of those things, which are which are really key. So I wanna I wanna kinda hone in on if you had some other questions about about food. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And I think that's obviously that's kinda one of the cores of what you do. So, you know, we've talked about, you know, storage. Right? You know, one month, etcetera. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

One month, three months, six months, you know, kinda continuing. So if somebody let's just say that, if somebody wanted to start building out a food, you know, food kinda collection, right, you know, food store, where would you recommend starting in terms of and and we can pull up your website and look at specific products. I know you you've built out actually specific things, but, you know, I think a lot of people think that, oh, okay. Well, I'll get some canned beans or like, I'm on I'm on all kinds of Prepper forums and Prepper Facebook pages. I'll see these people like, oh, great.

Seth Holehouse:

Mac and cheese was on sale at, you know, Costco. So bought a bunch of mac and cheese. It's like, oh, it's just, like, it's really kinda terrible. Or or, like, even worse, like, Froot Loops. Like, wow.

Seth Holehouse:

Froot Loops were on sale. I bought, you know, 10 boxes of Froot Loops. It's like, oh, man. Like like, that's not okay. It's still calories.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? But, and this is the thing. It's really important because when I, you know you know, a, you know, I've you know, you're I work with you guys. Right? So Heaven's Harvest, you know, you guys are one of the the companies that I work with directly.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? I love what you're doing, but I I actually shopped and looked at all the big ones. Right? All the big names that you see and all the big conservative channels. I I got their food.

Seth Holehouse:

I tested it. I looked at their pricing, and I said, okay. You guys know what you're doing. I like your approach to it. So when someone's at the very beginning, what is your advice on, building out that that food supply?

Seth Holehouse:

Something that's gonna take care take care of your family and keep us healthy.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Can I can I back it up one step?

Seth Holehouse:

Please do. Yeah.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Before you worry about food, you need to worry about water.

Seth Holehouse:

There you go. Okay. There you go.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Water is the most important thing. And the and the beautiful thing about it is water is easy. You don't need to have a 10,000 gallon water storage tank. Seth, there's a few bottles on our on the site there that we've tested. We've tried.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, they're easy. They're simple. It pulled up there real quick if that's good.

Seth Holehouse:

Water storage or filtration? Yep.

Clayton Llewellyn:

The pump to pure right there on the left will filter all the water you need.

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, so this guy right here.

Clayton Llewellyn:

That guy right there. There's there's and again, it's a mechanical pump. It's all hand done. It's not a huge contraption. You better worry about somewhere to put it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Doesn't run off batteries. You know, that right there could save your life. There's Grail water bottles on there. Right there, the 24 and the 16 ounce, those water bottles could save your life. There's no reason that every home in America doesn't have one of those bottles at their house.

Clayton Llewellyn:

There's, like I said, this is what has been frustrating about watching these Helene victims. And I and God bless them. We're praying for them. We've donated, I mean, 100,000 meals. We've been over there and helped to clean up like, so I'm not picking on anybody.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I know there's people over there that have completely lost everything and we pray

Seth Holehouse:

for them. Hold on. You've donated 100,000 meals

Clayton Llewellyn:

to healthy Yeah, we've donated a good bit.

Seth Holehouse:

Wow, man. Good. God bless you for that, Clayton. That's

Clayton Llewellyn:

wow. Calling in here yelling at us that we haven't done enough. Like, okay. Like, Disregard that email. But but the frustrating part is, I mean, like, you've watched these helicopters.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You've watched these food drops. You've watched these water drops. Like, the basics. That water bottle right there eliminates a pallet of water.

Seth Holehouse:

So basically, does it work?

Clayton Llewellyn:

The lid, the top half, the top eighth of it there will unscrew and inside of it, there's a filter. So you fill the water bottle up about two thirds of the way and then as you push the top back on it, it filters up through the filter and then the top half is good to drink. It's simple. It's a simple technology. A survivalist is who taught me about it, showed me how easy it is to use.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's a great tool that needs to be the first thing in everybody's collection. The very first thing. So you could

Seth Holehouse:

go to a river and just scoop up river water and just drink it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You can go to you can go to a pond, a river, a puddle. If you got a pool, you know, like, dip it out of your pool. This sounds awful. If you got a toilet, dip it out of your toilet. Like Wow.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's fresh that's clean drinking water, you know, and it's out of a simple bottle, you know, and it's again, it's one of those things that we've just it has been very frustrating watching how much water we have shipped to North Carolina when that right there is a pallet of water. Know, that's first thing you need is the water filtration. You know what I mean? We you can live a couple weeks without food. You're only gonna live a few days without water.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So making sure you have fresh water is priority number one. You know, priority number two is the food. There's a Minh, can we talk about that new kit we have?

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yep. Yep.

Seth Holehouse:

Which one is it?

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's the self heating meal kit.

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Actually, I I I have some of these. I got some of these. I haven't tried it yet, but so so so what is what are these?

Clayton Llewellyn:

And that's that's like an MRE on steroids. It's a meal in a bag. And what I really like about this is it's a hot meal. It doesn't require a fire. You don't have to heat any well, you have to heat water, but everything you need to heat the water is in the bag.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So for people that live in the cities that can't start a fire, that don't have power, electricity, like, this is the perfect hot meal for somebody like that, you know, like, all these people that are getting ready to go through this hurricane that your power is gonna be out for a week or two. Like this is perfect. I hate to say if you hunt and camp or fish or like this is perfect for that. But these are really cool. I'm pretty pretty excited about these.

Clayton Llewellyn:

We've just released these. And I I think we've already sold through probably about half of what we've already gotten in. They've only been up there for maybe a week.

Seth Holehouse:

So Really?

Clayton Llewellyn:

These are really a big hit.

Seth Holehouse:

Also, I'll tell people too, actually, that, I'm I'm pretty sure that that the what we've set up for the Man in America audience, I think, is the biggest discount that people will find, which I think it's it's 15% off. So 15% off is it site wide, or is it just food, or is it set set site wide?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Site wide on everything. And if that's a hundred dollars or more, we give you free shipping.

Seth Holehouse:

So Oh, okay. It's a

Clayton Llewellyn:

pretty good deal for a man in America audience.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. So so promo code is Seth. It's s e t h, Seth. It's 15% off, which, you know, look, if you're spending a thousand bucks on survival food, you know, you know, it it's it makes a big difference. So, okay, so you've got these self heating meal kits.

Seth Holehouse:

So let let's I wanna talk about food buckets. Right? So if someone wants to get say someone's watching this and they're like, okay. Look. I wanna bite the bullet.

Seth Holehouse:

I'm gonna get a I've got, you know, three people in my family. I wanna get, you know, three months worth of food for three people. Now I'll I'll I'll I'll put in a quick caveat here and just say that there are more inexpensive ways to do this. Right? A lot of like, we've got a lot of food stored away.

Seth Holehouse:

I don't have ten years worth of heaven's harvest food. Right? What we've got a lot of what makes up our food is I've got five gallon buckets and tractor supply filled with hard red wheat, for instance. Like, we we buy a lot from Azure market. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

We'll we'll buy big bulk shipments, 50 pound bags of of hard not ground flour. Right? We have a we have an Amish hand mill for grinding up the the red wheat because the wheat berries will last a lot longer than flour. So we've got a lot of that food store is in is in five gallon buckets with auction packets. We also have a freeze dryer.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So we have our own harvest right freeze dryer, which we freeze dry a lot of our foods. But I can tell you that that kind of that kind of prepping, it takes a lot of time. Right? And it's something you do slowly, and you you build up.

Seth Holehouse:

But I also I have a lot a lot of food buckets because they're, you know, they're covering things I'm not doing in, like, you know, a big bag of rice or whatever. So the food buckets are they they cover a lot of the the different diversity and nutrients and everything, but also it's convenient. Right? So for people that don't have I mean, like, we literally, I spent weeks. I had to hire a couple of friends to come in and help us repackage all of our food and reorganize the food storage because it was you know, everything was in you know, they it arrives in in in the different kind of shit, you know, sacks and everything.

Seth Holehouse:

And so even just to kind of process it and organize it takes so much time. Right? Versus, like, these you know, the food buckets, it's great. You open them up. They've got everything in them.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Which is, you know, ultimately, think that it it to me, it's it's kinda two different approaches. It's kinda like you don't just wanna have a gasoline generator. If you can have a small solar generator, that's also good. If you can have a hand crank this, that's also good.

Seth Holehouse:

So it's about redundancy. So then looking at the the the food buckets, like, if someone said, look, I wanna I wanna go ahead and, you know, I'm gonna listen to Clayton's advice. I'm gonna do three months for, you know, say I've got three people say, so we're, you know, buying the equivalent of nine months worth of food to make sure my family can have three can eat for three months. Where would they go for that?

Clayton Llewellyn:

And Seth, we set that up for that. Can you go back up to that emergency survival food tab and scroll down to the combo survival kit? Okay. Seth, that right there, the one month combo kit is for one adult that has everything one adult needs to survive for a month. Again, these aren't garbage buckets.

Clayton Llewellyn:

These are quality meals. There's meat in there. Like there's everything you need to survive in there for one month for an adult. It's got a breakfast bucket, a 72 serving entree bucket, and a protein bucket in it. And again, we've kept them all separated.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I especially wanted to keep the protein separated from everything else because protein only has a fifteen year shelf life on it. The beef, chicken and eggs, where the entrees and the other stuff has a twenty five year shelf life. But the beef bucket that gives you like the minerals and the nutrients and stuff like that that you're missing from the food that doesn't have meat in it. I mean, there's some really good vegetarians out there, but there's more bad ones than good ones. Like the human body needs certain proteins to survive and that's found in meat.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So those three buckets together are what I recommend for one adult for one month, and that gives you everything you need. My hat's off to you, Seth, like what you said there is the the god's honest truth. Like, I I don't wanna sell rice and beans. You know what I mean? Like, it's it's way too expensive to ship rice and beans.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, if it's important to have them, but go to Walmart and buy them. You know, like these this here are like the meals. You can add the rice into these meals, you know, like that's kind of what I wanted to do. I wanted to find what would fit best for most Americans. You know what I mean?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, we've taken the time, especially in the last two or three years to really do what you've done, but most of us don't have the time. Most of us don't have the space, you know, and that kind of stuff needs to be rotated. You've got to keep up with it. Know, these buckets, again, keep them in a cool dry space and they're going last for twenty five years. It's a buy it one time and forget it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It's an insurance policy that you don't have to renew every year. So if you're looking for three adults for three months, you know, nine months worth of food, nine of those buckets or nine of those kits is what you would need.

Seth Holehouse:

Which that makes that makes sense. Here you have, for instance, here's 12. Right? So here would be you know, this is a year's worth of food. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And you look at it, it's like, oh my gosh. You know, $9,800. Well, first off, it's 15% off. So it's 15, you know, thousand $500 off of that. But, you know, think how much money you're spending on food, but there's also you know, there are are ways of of kind of, you know, financing and those kinds of things.

Seth Holehouse:

But the the point being is that what what is the value of that, right, to have a year's worth of food for an adult? But, also, something I I I wanna add to what you said, there's something you've said is that you kinda mentioned earlier is there's a lot of companies, and and and it I went through this process. Right? When I was trying to figure out because I wanted to work with a survival food company. It's something I believe very much in, and I don't I don't rep I don't work with any companies I don't believe in, not just the company, but also the products.

Seth Holehouse:

And when I was researching, I found, like, oh, well, this company, I can get a twelve month supply for $6,000. This company, a twelve month supply is $9,000, and you think, okay. Well, I'm gonna do some price shopping, and, obviously, I'm gonna go with the less expensive one. But I ran into the exact same thing that you ran into where you have these companies that are promising. It's it's a little bit deceptive because they're they're telling you this is twelve months worth of food, but then you once you break it down, you realize it's only about a thousand calories per day.

Seth Holehouse:

And it's just like, oh, it's actually it's not just it's not just deceptive. I mean, to me, it's downright criminal because if you're buying if you're trusting a company like, I I I know you. I trust you. If you say, Seth, this kit will last one adult one month. Like, I I I know that you're lying.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, you're you're a strong Christian. You're a patriot. You're you're a moral man. Right? So it's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse:

I I know that you're you're telling the truth. The worst thing is imagine you buy three months worth of food for your family, and you realize after a month and a half, you've eaten it all up. Right? Like, that's that's really, really, really deceptive, actually.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Seth, there's thousands of people in this country that don't have what they think they have. Like, we compete with it every day. I get the phone calls every day. Like it's and when the day comes and you need it, you're gonna wish you had bought the right stuff. You know, it's it's kinda one of those, I get why you do it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know what I mean? But really need to pay attention to what you're getting because there's very few companies in this business that are honest.

Seth Holehouse:

It's it's unfortunate. Even even with gold and silver, I know that, you know, behind the scenes, a lot of gold and silver companies that are just ripping people off. They see the opportunity. It's like, wow. All these people, they're wanting to move their, you know, IRAs in a gold and silver, and they don't know.

Seth Holehouse:

So we're we're gonna sell them, you know, $300,000 worth of silver for $800,000. Like, it's like it it's happening. It's it's really unfortunate. As gosh. We've going for over an hour now, and but before we kinda wrap up, I do wanna cover seeds because this is actually this is critical.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So here you've got well, okay. Two things. One, you have gardening and survival resources. I if you know, look.

Seth Holehouse:

For folks that have gardened, they know gardening inside now, you grew up doing it, you're great. If you're new to gardening or, you know, you you say you've had a little, you know, vegetable patch with three tomato plants, and I recommend a handful. Like, the vegetable gardener's bible, great one. The garden planner, I've got one of these from you guys at home. Square Foot Gardening.

Seth Holehouse:

This this book right here was was fundamental for learning how to garden. You know, we built a lot of our gardens off of this exact book right here, Square Foot Gardening. So I will highlight that. And here you go as well. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

The ball complete book of home preserving. Also really, really important to learn how to preserve your food, which that could be a whole episode just on that, which is I guess, why I'm writing a book on this. Right? But I wanna talk about seeds because I know that you I've got a bunch of your seed kits, and we've got not just your seed kits, but we actually have big sealed Tupperware bins with little smaller bins like tackle boxes, all sealed in Mylar bags with all the seeds organized. Like, you know, my wife went crazy on this couple years ago, and and we have it all set up.

Seth Holehouse:

But so tell us about what you've done with your seeds, why heirloom seeds are important. You know, people say, why why do I need heirloom seeds versus regular seeds? So walk us through the, seed, but also the seed share kit because this is also a really critical thing as a seed sharing. So I'll just I'll hand it to you to explain seeds and gardening to us.

Clayton Llewellyn:

All right. Let me start out by saying that we grow a garden every year and we get a lot out of it. Secondly, I suck at gardening, but that's besides the point. God's done most of work here. You put a seed in the ground, you water it, something will happen.

Clayton Llewellyn:

But the seed kit's really important. This is back to what I was talking about earlier. Like we gotta figure out how to do this for the long term. You can never buy enough food to last a lifetime. Seed kit, they're heirloom seeds.

Clayton Llewellyn:

A lot of the seeds you buy from the store now genetically modified. There's a big kick for organic seeds right now. The thing about organics, most of them are hybrids, which means they've taken, let's just say a male and a female plant, that's not the right terminology, probably the best way to explain it. They've taken a male and a female plant to create an offspring. The problem is you can't take the seeds out of that offspring and get the same offspring.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You either get the male or the female plant. And the thing is one of those plants was good at one thing and one was good at another. Like it's just, you never get a good second crop out of it. The heirlooms, like we say, they're seeds by God's design. I mean, these are the seeds that they haven't been manipulated by a scientist.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, the genetics haven't manipulated with, it's not a hybrid of two different seeds. These seeds have been growing the same crop for seventy five years to be considered a hybrid or excuse me, to be considered an heirloom. So you can take the seed out of a tomato, plant it, and you'll get the exact same kind of tomato the following year. That's extremely important in survival. A lot of the stuff you buy now at your local hardware store, they're hybrids, they're GMOs.

Clayton Llewellyn:

And the thing is that's what they want to sell you because you got to come back the following year and buy it again. That seed kit, it's got 39 different variety of seeds in it. And we've been shooting some videos lately here to show the difference between our bags and the bags you buy at the store. And those piles of seeds right there, like in that picture you just showed, it's a bit deceiving until you compare that pile next to a bag you buy at the store. Some of these seeds have hundreds of seeds in the bag where you go to the store, buy a bean seed and there's four of them in it, five of them in it, you know?

Clayton Llewellyn:

So it's a tremendous amount of seeds. There's, I believe, was there 4,500 seeds in that kit, I think, like to to grasp the concept No. 34,000. That one's got that. It's got 34,000 in it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So it's it's a I mean, it's it's a huge amount of seeds. You know

Seth Holehouse:

what mean? You could feed a whole village off of this, especially if you're collecting seeds year after year. This could be enough to to start a civilization. It's a it's a lot

Clayton Llewellyn:

of It absolutely could. The thing is like one tomato seed will grow a tomato plant that's got will yield 50 tomatoes off of it and you pull the seeds off of that. Now you've got 200,000 seeds.

Seth Holehouse:

You know? So it's It's incredible. It's God's design. See, I mean, if you look at I'll throw in just a quick kinda caveat to this is, like, everyone is all about scarcity, and then, you know, talking about, like, you know you know, like, natural resources are limited and everything. It's like, what you realize is that God has given us so much.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? It's like, think about this even a seed and how one seed can produce a plant. That plant may give you a thousand seeds for next year. Then it's 10 thousands the following year. That's a hundred thousand.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, it's just it's it's it's incredible how nature, like, by its nature wants to proliferate. It wants to have a bounty and abundance. It's just it's just all this modern crap, these Monsanto seeds, GMO stuff that they you you can't plant them again the next year. So it's just incredible. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

And look at this picture, like, to me, this is transparency transparency right here. If you're not sure what you're buying online, it's like, this is it. Like, this it it's incredible.

Clayton Llewellyn:

But that like, that that seed kit, I hate to say this. It's it's kind of the ultimate tool in your survival kit. You know? Like, that's that picture you're showing right there is enough food to last 500 people a lifetime. Like what that'll produce is just it's absolutely crazy.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, the thing is we put enough seeds in there. Like I said, I sucked at gardening. Like, I was no good at it when I started, you know. So I wanted to put enough seeds in there that if you messed up or something didn't work out, we can do it again next year. And then we can do it again the year after that.

Clayton Llewellyn:

We can do it the year the year after that. Like, you know, the tomato seeds, there's a thousand tomato seeds in there. Like, it's there's plenty to try and to try again if you if you don't get it right the first time. I will be honest with you, though. It's gardening is gardening, I don't wanna say it's tough to mess up because it's not tough to mess up, but put a seed in the ground and water it and you'll be rewarded for your labor.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like something will come up. You know, you'll get something out of it. Like it's difficult. There's definitely tricks to it. But again, God's done most of the work for us here.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Yeah. He didn't want us to starve. So you know, that kit right there is again, that's kind of the ultimate tool. That's the insurance policy. If we get past six months, you know, in a survival situation, you'll need something like that to keep you going.

Seth Holehouse:

I couldn't agree more. It's also some I'd recommend that like, there's a lot of people that think they think, oh, well, I'll survive if there's a disaster because I've got all these seeds. And you say, well, have you gardened before? Well, no. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And that's I've you know, we we you know, my wife and I, you know, we're on, I think, you know, maybe our fourth year of gardens. Right? And and every year, we screw something up, and we're like, oh, wow. Actually, like, that whole crop of cucumbers got wrecked by the cucumber beetles. So here here's what we learned from this.

Seth Holehouse:

So every year, you learn. And, you know, my wife actually, she studied permaculture. Actually, she ex you know, went and said at the Permaculture Institute in Australia. So we're, you know, we're, you know, kind of big into regenerative garden you know, regenerative gardening, and we, you know, we have chickens and compost and all the stuff like that to create sustainability. But, yeah, the seeds are great, but I would say recommend that, like, everyone, like, as part of your prepping, you know, chore, start a garden.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, like, plant the seeds. Learn how to germinate them indoors if you have to. You know, bring and grow them, you know, grow your little sprouts and and plant them, whatever it is, because it's it's it's critical. It's absolutely critical. So it's let's go ahead.

Clayton Llewellyn:

One more thing in there. And and just so people will realize it, like, seeds come in, like, mylar foil packs. So, again, don't don't stick that thing in your closet until you need it. Learn to do it now. You know what mean?

Clayton Llewellyn:

And you don't have to go like full out with a massive garden. You know what I mean? Like start with one or two plants. Try to figure it out. But again, they're in mylar foil bags, they're resealable.

Clayton Llewellyn:

So if you keep that in a cool dry place, if you keep that in the back of your refrigerator, like most of those seeds are going to last you up to ten years. So it's not a one and done, you know, and it's we've talked to people about that. Know, even if you had to go buy all those seeds from the hardware store for one year, they mean it cost you thousands and thousands of dollars. But this isn't a one year kit. You know, this is this is years this is several years worth of planting a garden.

Seth Holehouse:

And what is this the seed share kit? Can you can you describe that?

Clayton Llewellyn:

That's again, we had a lot of people calling in and, know, it's a it's a massive seed kit. There's a lot of seeds in there. So it's that's just if you've got family members or something like that and you wanna split them up, it's an easy way to split them up and give them to your mom or your dad or your sisters. Like, just easy way to easy way to share them with your family.

Seth Holehouse:

And and that's an important point as well because, you know, one of the as I've kinda distilled into the importance of of preparedness, everything, obviously, we've got water. You've got food. You have to be able to protect that food communication, but the most important thing is community. And this is you know, it's knowing your neighbors. It's you know, like so we we recently bought a house, and just on we're out in the country.

Seth Holehouse:

I now I've realized that my neighbor three, you know, three houses down is a nurse. Great. The neighbor across the street runs a firewood bit firewood business. So he's got on on his property, he's probably got three acres worth of logs stacked 50 feet tall. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And he he he just he does you know, actually, I talked to him the other day. We're we're just finishing our firewood shed, and he's charging me a hundred a hundred and 80 bucks for a quarter wood delivered. Right? So he's great. It's a family, you know, friend discount.

Seth Holehouse:

You see, you knowing your neighbors is so critical, but actually being able to give them a seed kit. Like, this is so so amazing because say there is, you know, difficult times and say, hey, do you have some food or whatever? Of course, maybe you wanna share. How about your neighbor? But giving them seeds, it's like teaching them how to fish.

Seth Holehouse:

It's saying, look, you know, here's some seeds, plant your garden, and then they then it kind of then they can they can become the person next year. They can share seeds with their kids. So that it's I I like how you have that whole seed share kit there.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, and it's you listening to you say that reminds me of, again, we've we've worked with survivalists and stuff like that. And again, like this stuff all opened my eyes, but one of his big sayings was the lone wolf dies alone. There you go. Like like this, this is gonna be a community effort when this takes place.

Seth Holehouse:

It is. I wanna there's one, comment that I wanted to just address as we're closing out here. It wasn't really a question, just m Cummings eighty five on Rumble who said, I wonder how long it takes to get well prepped. And I'll kinda share my kinda quick response to that is that it's one of those questions of how long is a piece of string. You know, we've been my wife and I, we've been prepping, I would say, pretty seriously together for probably four or five years.

Seth Holehouse:

I started, you know, back, you know, over a decade ago living in New York City. I started prepping in New York City. Got a, you know, big, you know, I think it's Burl Pack. I forget the name of the company. But, you know, the the huge kind of bug out bag and MREs and all that kind of stuff.

Seth Holehouse:

But it's in my opinion, it's it's a never ending journey. It's it's like it's like, are you fully prepared? It's like, well, I could always have this. So, you know, for people that are just starting, I it's overwhelming. It's also part of why I'm I'm writing a book because I'm gonna do, like, a big video series with it to kinda make it easier to understand.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, it's not that crazy complicated, but it it's just it's like, the journey of a thousand miles starts with one step. And it's a process. It takes time. It takes money, but the guy who's putting $20 a month into, you know, learning and and prepping over a couple of years is after two years is far more prepared than most people in his neighborhood. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

So it is something that, is is doable. Right? It's I know it's overwhelming, but it's just it's just doable. You you start where you're at, and you just go from there.

Clayton Llewellyn:

No. I think that's a pretty good answer there. Like, I'm I'm still not finished. I own a survival food company, and we're still like, I mean, honestly, we're still we're still investing in it. You know?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Like, we're we're looking at a bunker now. You know, like it's you can kind of get to you one step and you take the next step and you take the next step, but it's kind of one of those things. It's does it ever really stop? You know? I mean, I don't make the I don't make a I don't let it ruin my day.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know what I mean? I don't let it ruin my lifestyle, but it's always there in the back of my mind. Can I do this better? Can I do that better? You know?

Clayton Llewellyn:

What can we do to add to this first aid stuff? You know? Like, it's if I'm in Walmart for something, like, I pick up a few extra bandages or pick up a tourniquet or, you know, it's it's it's it's constant. I don't really I don't stop. So

Seth Holehouse:

Even if I'm at Lowe's at local hardware store, if I need some screws, I'll get one of those big one gallon buckets. I I won't get a little pack of screws. Right? Especially if it's more of a common use screw, it's like, okay. Well, screws could be worth more than gold, right, if if you're in a situation where there's been a disaster and you can't go to the hardware store.

Seth Holehouse:

So it's it's it's that kind of thinking. Right? It's it's about, you know you know, if I go to the store and I and I I'm buying some food, I won't buy one thing. If it has a long shelf life, I'll buy 10. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

I'll put I'll put eight in the in the food storage room, and I'll I'll bring the rest upstairs, and, you know, it's it's just chipping away at it. So as we're we're we're closing out here, I wanna give you the opportunity to just kind of share your closing thoughts. But before we jump in that, just wanna remind you to kinda go back, bring the website back up, and just, you know, remind folks that the website URL and this is all in the description below. It's heavensharvest.com. It's funny because when I was looking at different survival food companies and and kind of vetting to, you know, wants to work with with Ben in America, I was like, heavens harvest.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, this is great. Like, these people, like, it says heaven in their name. It's like, that's the kind of company I wanna work with. But, again, so it's heavensharvest.com, and promo code Seth, s e t h, will save you 15% off everything on the website. Any order over, what, a hundred bucks, you say?

Seth Holehouse:

Is it it's free shipping? Yep. Yep. Anyway, just wanna wanna give that, you know, for people to know. So, Clayton, yeah, guess, you know, back to you.

Seth Holehouse:

What are your what are your final thoughts as we're we're wrapping up?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Look, don't wait till this is too Don't wait till you need it. You know what I mean? Don't wait till it's too late. Know, and it's We have been slammed the last few weeks. And another reason we've been slammed is because of all the hurricanes coming through right now.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, it's again, it tells people, we don't ever think about changing our wiper blades when the sun is shining. We always do it when it's raining. Don't wait till it's raining. It's like I said, I've done a lot of praying in the last couple of weeks for all these hurricane victims, but it's also been really frustrating to watch the ones that have spent a million dollars on a home in the mountains reaching out for help. We've all seen it on the news.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Where's FEMA? FEMA's not helping us. Our government's not doing anything for us. We're relying on the government to take care of us. Let's learn to take care of ourselves.

Clayton Llewellyn:

The whole country boy can survive. Let's live up to that. So just again, and this is high quality survival food. I was one of the guys that went and bought the discount deal there in the beginning and realized what I had got. You know, it was kind of a rip off.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It was a scam. So when we put this together, I wanted to make sure that what was a month's worth of food is a month's worth of food. This isn't one of those things that you know, you don't ever open the box. When the time comes, you need it, you're in trouble because you don't have what you think you have.

Seth Holehouse:

Really important. I also I I just I'm amazed at what you've done. So I I didn't know this section till I found out in this conversation of what you guys have done for just the victims of Helene, the fact that you donated, you know, over a hundred thousand meals. I mean, that's good on you. That that's incredible.

Clayton Llewellyn:

We've been over there helping clean up. And, like I said, this is right down the road from us. This isn't our backyard. You know, we we got lucky with this storm. So we're we're seeing what's going on firsthand, and it's it's it's it's it's I don't wanna say maddening because that's not the right word, but it's definitely frustrating.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You know, it's definitely frustrating. Like I've seen these like I said, these people have spent a million dollars on a cabin in the woods to get, you know, to be able to take care of themselves and their family during this exact same disaster, and they didn't make it three days. I mean, literally people coming down that we cooked meals for to eat a hot meal and, you know, thank you so much for the hot meal and turn around and walk up to their cabin in the woods. This is for the people that lost everything, but that's not who's being taken care of right now. You know, we need to, like, we need to learn to take care of ourselves.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. I I I couldn't agree more. And as as difficult as it all is, I I think in a lot of ways, country needs to go through something like this. You know? And and I don't I don't wanna wish harm on any American, but we I think that, you know, it it's the fourth turning.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? It's, you know, hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good know, good times make weak time. You know, good men make, sorry, good times make weak men, and weak men make hard times.

Seth Holehouse:

And we've unfortunately become a very weak nation. You know, looking back at, you know, like, my my great grandparents lived the Great Depression. They had a root cellar. They, you know, were at their house. They had a shotgun right behind the door.

Seth Holehouse:

So as you walk in as a kid, I always saw the shotgun sitting there. They knew how to survive. And, unfortunately, we've become distracted by bread and circuses and Monday night football and, you know, social media, and and we've forgotten what it means in a lot of ways that we've forgotten what it means to be an American and and the you know, to be an American patriot. You know, to me, being self sufficient is one of the greatest expressions of being an American patriot. It's mean that I will I will survive.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, I will become hard to kill. Right? It's like when there is tyranny, I'm going to become the person that is really hard to kill because I'm gonna know how to defend my home. I'm gonna have food. I'm gonna that's my goal.

Seth Holehouse:

It's just to become hard to kill. And if enough Americans are like that, then we will not be overtaken by tyranny. But if a lot of us are, and like you said, it's like all it takes is a is a storm, and you can't last three days before you're lining up for your FEMA bread line. Before you know it, they're gonna say, okay. Where's your vaccine passport?

Seth Holehouse:

Okay. Where's this? Hey. Your social credit score is not high enough, so we're limiting your no meat for you this week. Like, that's how that's how they want it to work.

Seth Holehouse:

So to me, it is my my patriotic duty to become someone that will protect, you know, goodness in this in this nation and stand up against tyranny. And being prepared, I think, is one of the most important things in that process.

Clayton Llewellyn:

It absolutely is. And, man, on a side note, you got a name for that book yet?

Seth Holehouse:

I do. You know what it is?

Clayton Llewellyn:

I don't know, but hard to kill sounds like a pretty good title.

Seth Holehouse:

No. Actually, the name of the book is prep like Noah. Oh. The idea yep. So this is the first time I've I've announced it.

Seth Holehouse:

Yep. So it's and it's I think in the next couple of weeks, I'll have it done. I'm giving you away for free too. It's not gonna be a book I'm selling on Amazon. It's gonna be a book where you you can get it, you know, whether it's a ebook or a PDF, but the the idea is it's it's called prep like Noah, and it's it's kind of talking to people that that feel like God is speaking to them, and that there's there's something telling them I I should I should prepare.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Looking back in the days of Noah. Right? I I I believe that we're living in the days of Noah again. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And that we're living in a world that's been overtaken by corruption, and, you know, virtue has been replaced with vice, and there's just a lot of evil back at that time. And so God had to send a flood to to get rid of all the evil, and so Noah was the one that was chosen that was given this this insight by God and his direction, and and because he was a man of faith, and he was a moral man that he carried through, and he had to rebuild the civilization on the other side of that. And so I really feel like that's where we're at. Is it's not about, hey. How can I survive so I can get back to normal again?

Seth Holehouse:

It's like hard times are coming because our world has become very evil, and that evil needs to be rooted out. And I think God is gonna be clearing out a lot of evil, but it doesn't mean that it's peaceful and nice. Like, it wasn't nice for Noah to have to, you know, build an ark and be living on the ark and go through all that stuff. Right? But it was his duty, but he was called not to build an ark.

Seth Holehouse:

He was called to get to the other side of of the disaster so that he could help reestablish a mankind with with just and moral laws. And so that's that's kind of the outline of the book is that, like, prep like Noah did. Right? You build your ark, whatever, you know, whatever what it is. Like, it's because the reason why we're having this conversation and the reason why the audience is listening and why they're they're they're resonating with this instead of watching football right now.

Seth Holehouse:

They're watching a show in preparedness is I really believe that God has just is is speaking to us, and I believe that God is saying, look. You know, I've got an important role for you in the future, so I can't lose you in some hurricane. I can't lose you to some, you know, migrant, you know, person raiding your house because he's hungry. It's like he's like, Seth, you gotta survive. I've got a I've got a job for you to do.

Seth Holehouse:

And so that's the yeah. So that that that's that's it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I'm excited to read it. I hope I didn't ruin anything there.

Seth Holehouse:

No. No. Actually, it it's it's perfect. It's it's perfect. No.

Seth Holehouse:

I'll be announcing it more, and I'll be I'll probably be doing a little bit of, like, a little media blitz for it. But, yeah, that's that's that's that's the theme is that, you know, follow your faith and and prepare. Right? Because God's got a plan for us, and and we have to get through whatever difficulty lies ahead, to to help carry out that plan. And that's so that's it.

Clayton Llewellyn:

I'm excited to read it, and I can see that I can see your passion about it.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. I am. I am. So alright. Well, one last one last reminder, heavensharvest.com.

Seth Holehouse:

The promo code is Seth. It's all in the description below if if if you need it. You know, actually, if someone has a question, you know, if they wanna call your team or how do you do that? How do you guys handle that?

Clayton Llewellyn:

Well, at night, there's a you can send us an email during business hours. There's usually there's a chat there's a chat feature on there where you can ask a simple question on there. But if you've got a harder question, 800 number on the top is the best way to get through to us. We're usually open eight to five. We've been running longer hours on that lately, so you may catch us before.

Clayton Llewellyn:

You may catch us after.

Seth Holehouse:

Okay. Alright. Well, thank you so much for for giving us your time tonight. I feel like that maybe we should do another show soon just, you know, talking about what you're seeing in in the path of Helene because, like, I think I I could I could talk to you for hours on what you're seeing, and what the lessons are as someone that's on the ground down there.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Well, like I said, the this Milton is going through our hometown right now, so I'm sure in the next week or two, we'll be down there. Love to come back on and talk to you about it, and I can give you firsthand of what's going on down there. So Great. I'm curious to see how Florida responds to this.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Me too. Me too. I I I think it'll be very different. I think Ron DeSantis is gonna shove his boot up the rear end of FEMA, it seems.

Seth Holehouse:

So we'll see. I agree. I agree. Alright. Well, Clayton, thank you.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, it's gosh. It's 11:35, so we've been going for a little while. Thank you for coming on. It's been absolutely wonderful. Take care, and God bless, and we'll be in touch.

Clayton Llewellyn:

Seth, thanks for having us.

Seth Holehouse:

Absolutely. Alright, folks. For all those that are still here, thank you so much. Take care. Have a good night.

Seth Holehouse:

Take care of yourselves. If you're in the areas of Florida or any anywhere that's disaster prone, you know, kinda just keep safe, keep your prayers strong, and we'll see you next time. So alright, folks. Take care. Have a wonderful evening.

Seth Holehouse:

Thank you, and God bless.