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Speaker: Welcome to Inside
Marketing With Market Surge.
Your front row seat to the
boldest ideas and smartest
strategies in the marketing game.
Your host is Reed Hansen, chief
Growth Officer at Market Surge.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Today on
Inside Marketing with market Surge,
we're sitting down with someone who's
lived marketing from every angle, brands,
artists, politics, and even nightlife.
Connor Tracy is a marketer
who doesn't just talk theory.
He builds movements.
He co-founded off Sunset, one of Los
Angeles's most exclusive nightclubs,
pulling in over 4 million a year.
Through scarcity marketing, celebrity
partnerships and content strategy that
transformed events into cultural moments.
Universal Music Group, Connor contributed
to Grammy winning projects like Future
nostalgia and helped break artists into
the market by scaling grassroots digital
campaigns into mainstream stardom.
And beyond entertainment.
He's brought that same marketing
savvy into politics using digital
outreach to drive real voter
turnout and community engagement.
What I love about Connor is that he
shares not just the wins, but the
failures and what they taught him.
His POV is simple but powerful.
Great marketing isn't about chasing hype.
It's about aligning brand timing
and audience to create results.
That last, Connor, I'm
so glad to have you.
Welcome to the show.
Connor, you've worked in some
really interesting industries.
You've worked in nightlife, music
and politics, you know, so these
are, you know, for, for many
they'd seem totally different.
What do you think connects this
all as like a common thread as a,
as an entrepreneur and marketer?
Connor Treacy: Yeah, so I guess, I
guess it comes down to maybe like
me and like what my skill sets are.
So, know, at the end of the day
I would say I'm a really good
connector and a really good promoter.
So, you know, whether, um, promoting or.
Marketing an event, or I'm marketing
or connecting a product or an
artist or a song or political event.
Um, it's all kind of intertwined in that
sense, where I kind of just understand
like what it is I'm involved in and then.
What I kind of need to do on my end to
like put the pieces together to amplify
it or take it to the next level, you know?
So I know it sounds sometimes random for
people, but it all, everything I kind
of do like intertwines in a weird way.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: You know,
actually I, I really like that.
I, um, and I think you've kind
of reduced entrepreneurship and
marketing to its essence, you know?
It is, it is about connecting people
or com, you know, and, and being a
skilled communicator, um, boiling.
Tricky things or, or, uh, new thing,
new ideas to, uh, a larger audience.
Uh, so that, that's super cool.
And now in particular, I know very
little about the nightclub space.
Um, now you had a very
successful nightclub.
You know, you're still a young
guy, so that's really awesome.
What is, tell, tell us what
running a nightclub is like
and how do you build momentum?
Um.
You know, with using exclusivity and,
and, you know, promoting a brand and
getting high, high level celebrities
to come, how, how, how is that done?
Connor Treacy: Well, yeah, so
I guess for one, you know, I,
I do live in Los Angeles and
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Mm-hmm.
Connor Treacy: know, the space was
in West Hollywood, so it was like,
the heart of it was like the mecca
kind of, of like celebrity culture
and entertainment and stuff, right?
So, um, obviously if I opened up a spot
in like middle America or something, I
probably, uh, wouldn't be as good, right?
So I'm just kind of in the
right place at the right time.
But, um, you know.
It's like a combination of things.
I also, I also have been doing
events really since I was a
teenager, so, and I, I think I
opened off Sunset when I was like 28.
So I'd been doing it for a long
time, like 10 years pretty much.
And um, you know, it was like
something that I always wanted to do.
but you know, I think.
people that want to do the
nightlife and hospitality stuff.
Um, one thing that I really
try to let people know is like,
you have to be there like every
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.
Connor Treacy: that it's open pretty much.
Otherwise, um, it's not gonna hit
the same and PE people go like.
I'm not gonna, like, not from a,
uh, conceited standpoint that people
go just 'cause I go, but like, it,
it's like, uh, people want to go
and like, feel like they're getting
taken care of and they see you.
It just helps, you know?
So I feel like if you are gonna open up
like a hospitality venue, um, you need
to be very hands-on and you need to be
there a lot, especially when it comes
to like the higher end clientele or the
celebrities or anything in that realm.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: So, so
you probably have to really enjoy
the nightlife yourself, like, and,
and be on that schedule and, and,
you know, enjoy the, the energy,
um, just every, and do it every day.
Is that fair to say?
Connor Treacy: Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean I, um, it, it was like
the first thing that I ever kind
of did in life where I was like,
this is like what I'm meant to do.
Like, I just loved it.
Like it was never, I.
Never really like something where
I was like with a calculator in my
room, like figuring out how much money
I could make from it or something.
I just like really loved like the idea
of like get, like going on Google and
like getting an artist and renting out
a venue and then seeing the numbers on
the Facebook event page, like explode.
And then people go and do like a video.
Like, you know what I mean?
It was just like the whole process of the
whole thing was like what I really, um.
Like, I guess fell in
love with or whatever.
I don't know if that sounds corny, but,
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's kind of like, yeah, so, so I really
like, like the nightlife and, you know,
I've been doing it for a long time, so
it's not like, you know, every weekend
when I was doing off I was like, oh, I
can't wait to go to, you know what I mean?
But like, for the most part, yeah.
I loved it and I, um.
It's like, you know, one of the, one
of the favorite things that I do.
So yeah, you, I feel like
you have to like it, right?
Otherwise, if you hate it,
why would you every weekend?
It's crazy.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge:
So the, you know, scarcity
marketing is something that is.
You know, useful and, and, um, you
know, in my audience I have businesses
of all kinds, you know, and so in
the nightclub space, I would, you
know, I, I I picture a, a key.
Like branding element is the line
that goes out the door and the, the
doorman that is, um, restricting entry.
Um, or slowing entry and people,
and the, just the visual of like,
people are lining up to get in.
How, uh, how do you like.
Keep people lining up, how do you,
um, get them to wait for your services
and, um, you know, like, you know, when
you're, say when you're starting from
scratch, how do you get, how do you
get people, uh, to, to help you with
that visual of the line out the door?
Connor Treacy: Well, we at off Sunset,
we kind of did like anti-marketing where
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Uh.
Connor Treacy: had like, no,
we had like no sign out front.
It like wasn't on Google Maps
for a few months or a while.
Um, didn't have like a big
opening night, like we kind of.
I dunno if we like lied, but
like, we kind of like, were just
telling people, oh, come by.
Like, we're gonna do some showings
to like close personal friends.
Like, tell us what you think.
But like, we were fully open, but like we
were just showing like select people and
then like word would get out and people
would start talking and stuff like that,
and they'd be like, oh, like what is this?
Or, you know what I mean?
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: There was that, and
then we were like putting stickers on
people's phones so they couldn't take
photos of like whoever was inside.
So it was like a whole thing where
people, and then I, I would say it
was like more like after three or
four months, then it like popped.
But we had built up the momentum,
but we didn't try to like make
a huge splash immediately.
So that was more how that worked.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge:
Well, so that's interesting.
I like that anti-marketing, uh, term
and you know, then also you just being
kind of playful with it, you know,
like, hey, it's it, you know, we're
letting a few people in, you know,
don't, don't, uh, you know, make it
seem like they're the first to the.
You know, first to the show and um,
you know, I imagine having like a
who's, who there really helps too.
Um, you know, I'm sure tho
those are draws in themself.
Um, now you've gotta be a great
networker to make this happen
on, on the regular basis.
Um, how do you do it?
Do you make calls?
Do you like work with agents
or how, how is that done?
Typically?
Connor Treacy: Yeah, so, so
it was basically, um, off
Sunset, it was me and um.
Four other partners.
And so one of the guys, um, that I
was partners with, I knew him from
working at Universal Music Group.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Okay.
Connor Treacy: the other guy, um, I
was partners with, I knew him from when
we were working at One Oak, together.
So we had been in entertainment
for years, you know, and, and, um.
Knew a number of celebrities or artists or
label people or managers or any of that.
So it's more like Especially in the
West Hollywood nightlife or la um,
you know, when you're opening a new
spot, people will go check it out.
Like, you know what
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: So it's kind of like
we're just sitting at a table, like
at lunch and we're just figuring out
who all of us are gonna text, right?
And so it's like if I bring three
or four celebs and they bring
three or four celebs and the other
one brings, you know what I mean?
All of a sudden you have like
15, 20 celebs that are gonna be
there one night and then all of a
sudden it's like this crazy thing.
So.
that's kind of how it's done.
There's not some crazy
curtain or anything like that.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Okay.
No, that, that's really helpful.
You know, like you say, the kinda,
there's some network effects.
Connor Treacy: or anything like that.
I promise it's not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Thanks for, thanks for clarifying.
Not that you'd tell us if you were
actually in the Illuminati, but.
Connor Treacy: Not that I would
disclose that either, but you know,
you have to take it for what it is.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: That's great.
Well, you know, I think that's helpful.
I, you know, I, we, um, as business
owners occasionally have our brushes
with influencers or famous people, and
it's, um, kind of helpful to keep that
in mind because they have a real currency
that is, is valuable for, for promotion.
And, um, now you've worked in the music
industry too, and, and, uh, you've, you
know, help, uh, promote new artists.
Um, now in terms of, of the new
artists, how, you know, what could
we learn or what, what are like
the principles of promoting a new
art artist that's like unknown.
Um, what, what do you like to, what
information do you like to get out there?
What channels are the most effective
to, uh, promote these new artists?
Um.
And then I'm just interested in like
how we could maybe apply this to like
promoting a new business or a new product.
Um,
Connor Treacy: Yeah, you, um.
Are you just saying in general,
like how, like what it takes to kind
of blow up a new artist or like.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: exactly.
Exactly.
Connor Treacy: Yeah.
So I mean there's so many
factors that go into it.
Um, you know, for one, maybe
like look at their situation.
So do they have a good management team?
Um, are they already signed?
Do they have like a big budget available?
Do they already have money going into it?
do they produce their own music?
Um, you know, because if
they produce their own music,
then they don't have to buy.
Beats are instrumentals from other people.
So there's like a lot of cost thing
because at the end of the day, you know,
I don't know if people talk about it
enough, but like you're essentially,
if you're a new bi, like a new artist,
you're a startup you're a business and
it's gonna take money to keep growing it.
Right.
So you're gonna have to pay for photo
shoots, you're gonna have to pay
for a feature if you want an artist
to feature on one of your songs.
If, if you don't produce, you're
gonna have to pay like a really good
producer to make some beats for you.
Um, gonna have to pay for probably
to travel, to go to shows unless
like you have, you know what I mean?
So,
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: And these are all
things that I had to do myself
when I was doing my own events.
And, you know, I was, I was funding all my
stuff by teaching tennis lessons, right?
So this is all stuff I, I always
tell artists this, this is
all stuff that I did myself.
So I'm not telling you guys to
do anything that I wouldn't do.
You know, but aside from that, like
in the beginning, you just gotta
do a bunch of cold outreach, right?
So my mentality is like, I'll hit up like
50 or a hundred people and then usually
like out of that, like one like little
Easter egg comes out of it, you know?
And then you use that to leverage
it to then get another play in
another play and another play.
So that's kind of like how I approach, um.
Management or development or
a and r, you know what I mean?
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah, no.
You know, I, I love the, that response
because, you know, for those of us who
haven't worked in, in the LA area or in
entertainment, you know, there's some
assumptions, you know, that like they
just have the it factor, you know, they
just blew up because they were talented
or beautiful or, you know, and, and.
I mean, I love to hear that
the same principles apply.
Like you've gotta like put, you
know, put miles on your shoes.
You gotta like, you gotta make the cold
calls and, and you gotta put in the work,
you gotta find funding, you've gotta, um,
do all the same things in entertainment
that you have to do in other industries.
So, I, I, I'd love it, Connor.
Thank you for that insight.
Ha.
Have you.
Uh, you know, I'd love to
ask actually any specifics.
You don't have to name an artist, but
have you had any interactions with
artists that are particularly, um,
hardworking or those that are like
really avoidant of putting in the work?
Any, any come to mind?
Connor Treacy: Well, I can give
you, I can give you an example, um,
on like how I ended up getting the
Grammy plaque for the Dua Lipa record.
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.
Basically like I was working at Universal
Music Group as a and r, um, and I
actually was trying to sign this other
artist and um, I went to some party to
meet them and this producer, I ended
up just talking to this producer, had
no intentions of working with them,
and he was like, Hey, can do you
or would you be down to manage me?
And I didn't even.
I didn't even know that I could manage.
Um, I didn't know
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.
Connor Treacy: about it.
And then I also, I also was like
so new that I didn't understand,
like the producers in the music
business are super important, right?
Because they're the ones that,
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.
Connor Treacy: make the
beats or the instrumentals.
And so I always thought the artist
was super important and the artist
is very important, but you know.
What the song sounds like is
like, you know what I mean?
So like a, like a lot of times people
don't realize the producers have a
lot of juice, you know what I mean?
Because they could
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: those beats to anyone.
So anyways, I, um, I started managing this
producer, his name's Skyler and um, he.
He had been producing, you know,
if I, like, if I look back at his
stuff now, he had been producing
for, he had a similar sort in me.
He probably was doing it for like 10
years or whatever, but had like some
things here and there, but he wasn't
like a big name or anything like that.
Um, and.
We just started going to like every
publishing company in LA and every
management company and meeting with
artists and songwriters and produ.
I was just, I don't even know what
I was doing, to be honest with you.
I was just kind of like, just trying to
get him out there as much as possible.
And then nowhere.
My, my, uh, boss at the time, at the
record label was like, Hey, like.
I'm managing a producer.
Um, he's working on Dua Lip a's album.
Do you like know any producers or songs
that you think might be a good fit?
And I just sent him of Skyler's stuff
and it ended up getting selected to be
like her lead singles future nostalgia
on her album, future Nostalgia.
I.
Still, I didn't really like think
anything of it too much at the time.
And then like I remember just watching
the Grammys or whatever it was during
COVID that year, so it was only
on the computer and then it ended
up winning a Grammy and then I, it
still didn't really register like.
Wait, that's crazy.
Like I think I just, like, I think
me and Skylar just qualified for
like the grant, you know what I mean?
Like that's crazy.
And so that's kinda like how
that whole thing happened.
It ended up being like the biggest credit
that I've probably had so far, you know?
So, um, it's like, I guess I could say it
was lucky, but it also was like or two of
me and him just traveling around meeting
with a bunch of people and pitching
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: and, you
know, so that's kind of.
At least my life or
entertainment in a nutshell.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: That, that
No, that is a great anecdote and, um,
I, I mean it's, it's, it's interesting
to hear that, you know, people in
entertainment are not only more talented
than the rest of us, but they are also.
Super hardworking and you know,
the, those that are successful,
that, that, um, I find that kind of
inspiring, you know, that they, um.
You know, they have to put in the
same effort, uh, uh, that, that,
you know, any other business would.
Um, now you've also, uh, started
working in politics as well.
Um, talk a little bit about that.
You know, I, I can totally see the
common thread between all these roles.
You know, like it's a lot of
meeting people and connecting.
Um.
Or how, how is marketing to voters
different or, or the same as, as
working, uh, in entertainment?
Connor Treacy: Yeah, so, um, for
one, I had the same approach.
To the political stuff, um, that I
did with like music or nightlife.
Like, I don't, I didn't
know anyone in it, you
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Hmm.
Connor Treacy: So like, I just was like
DMing a bunch of electeds and groups and
orgs and I kind of was just working with
whoever, um, was kind of responding to me.
So that was kind of for
one, like how I got in.
and then two, I mean, my strong
suit is that I do events for a
lot of these like democratic orgs.
And so, um, you know, I know
how to secure these venues.
I also dj so I'm able to
cut them costs on that.
Like I know the people from Getty, um, to
take the photos 'cause I did all the stuff
with them when I was doing all the clubs.
So there's like.
I'm able to add my world to
their world and like help,
um, at least add like a piece.
You know, obviously doing events
and parties and stuff for political
groups isn't gonna save the whole
world or something, but that's kind
of like how I'm able to add value.
So that's kind of how I got
involved and what I do with them
at least now for the time being.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: That's awesome.
Um.
Well, you know, Connor, I, I,
I feel like you're gonna be
successful in whatever you do.
I guess it's probably just a matter of you
deciding, you know, what, what you wanna,
um, spend the rest of your career on.
Um, and, you know, maybe it'll be a
series of pivots and you'll just be
super successful at, at a lot of things.
Um,
Connor Treacy: Yeah.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: so let me
ask though, if, if you had to boil
down the lessons you've had, you've
worked in different industries.
Um, had success, uh, you know,
doing, taking similar efforts.
Um, but if you had to boil down
what are these marketing and, and
pr and entrepreneurial truths,
what do you think would be the key
lessons you'd, you'd share with,
uh, an audience of entrepreneurs?
Connor Treacy: Um, I think for one.
You need to, um, know, kind of have like
an open mind and be ready to like, pivot.
Because my career started off one
way and then I kind of just went with
whatever opportunities I had, you
know, so when I started I was mainly
doing like 300 to like a thousand
capacity, like rooms where I was like
booking an artist, selling tickets.
D, yada, yada, yada, you know?
And then it morphed into me becoming
kind of like this promoter that worked
at all these high end nightclubs
and do all these like celebrities.
And then from there I got hired
by a record label and I'm working
as like a a and r and a music man.
You know what I mean?
So.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah.
Connor Treacy: I didn't, I didn't know any
of this was gonna happen in the beginning.
I kind of was just like, okay, cool.
Like this sounds like the right next step.
So I think, um, when you're starting off,
like you kind of just need to have an
open mind and also like you really need
to love it because you know, a lot of
the stuff that has happened with me, it.
It was like an element of luck, but I
also, it was like every, I, I thought
about it every day and I was always
trying to think of like how I could
get better and how I could improve.
And so, I kind of made my own luck
in one way, or I maybe like put
myself in a position to receive
the luck and like run with it.
So I You get what I'm saying?
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Yeah, I do.
Yeah,
Connor Treacy: I do,
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: no, I
think that's totally applicable.
Well, well, Connor, this is, you
have a super interesting background.
You know, definitely a candidate
for World's Most interesting man.
Uh, one or more, um,
entertaining guests I've had.
Um, you know, and, and uhm sure
you have a million stories with the
people you've, uh, made contact with.
Um, Connor, if people would like to.
Find you work with you, you know,
maybe have you as a guest on a
future podcast or, um, you know,
just, just network with you.
Where, where are the
best places to reach you?
Connor Treacy: So, um, we
have, we have connor tracy.com.
Uh, you could hit me up
on LinkedIn, Connor Tracy.
Um, I think Instagram and x.com
are both at the Connor Tracy.
TikTok, also the Connor Tra.
We're on.
We're on it all.
We're doing it all.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: All right.
Connor Treacy: Connor, Tracy, so whatever.
But I guess like the website probably.
And then you could email me.
Reed Hansen, MarketSurge: Perfect.
Well, I'll include all these links
in the show notes and, uh, yeah,
really, really glad we connected.
Um, you know, I think, you know, just
even, even you reaching out to be a
guest, I think is, you know, an example
of your hustle and, and, uh, you know,
I know big things are in your future.
So, thanks for, thanks
for joining us today.
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