Saturday Brunch Unfiltered With Miracle OP

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On this episode of Saturday Brunch with Miracle OP, we have an unexpected guest on the show...

What is Saturday Brunch Unfiltered With Miracle OP?

Saturday Brunch Unfiltered with Miracle OP is where chaos meets conversation! Miracle dives headfirst into the latest entertainment buzz, pop culture drama, and whatever’s trending—raw, unfiltered, and completely unscripted. No sugarcoating, no holding back—just hot takes, reckless opinions, and the kind of wild discussions that keep you coming back for more. If it’s happening, Miracle’s breaking it down his way—real, raw, and unfiltered.

ladies and gentlemen boys and girls welcome back to another episode I am still your host with the most and he's always going to brag about having the best French toast and that is still a call out to someone that can't do my you that is still a call out to all you chefs out there I've been making a a mistake saying chi chi it's h bassi h bassi come on the show stop teasing me baby take me out to dinner let's go ladies and gentlemen boys and girls we have a special guest in the building y'all may call him doc y'all may call him Happy Feet y'all may call him always straight eyebrow y'all May call him exclusive dancing I [ __ ] with his dancing y'all may call him the king of fashion cuz he always steps out nice always looking drippy I [ __ ] with that too but I know him as the biggest [ __ ] reality star right now in Lagos this star or one of the stars of real housewise of Lagos season 2 Dr Rom oh my gosh what an intro what an intro I love it ever called me Happy Feet nobody's ever called me straight brows but you know what I'll take it I love it no no no no your eyebrows are perfect oh absolutely facts some I have some shorty I I because I was doing my research on you and and I was I had to rewatch The Season again okay to get like a fresher perspective of things and I was reading the comment section I was just curious let me go see the comment section the shies are hting on your eyebrows oh my God I think it's just because they're like are those real they're real they're real untouched you know somebody shorty joying this [ __ ] making it look cursive and stuff yeah yours is fresh I like that I think that's a jealous right was it do you shape it like that I don't it's natural it's it runs in my family honestly yeah I guess what people pay money to get I I just have it naturally God's giv Talent God's giving gifts just like just like Happy Feet yeah just like happy I like that that's a good intro n but doctor welcome in the show thank you thank you for gracing us for your presence you're just coming into the country which is crazy for you guys I'll do anything don't we feel special Saturday brunch of Miracle op come on now it's worth it hey yes it is hey but doctor we got we got full house because you got fans you got a lot of fans like I said one of the biggest reality Le TV stars in Legos has a lot of fans it's you're used to this you're used to the PO I'm and we got a full house in the building we're drinking sangrias we got some protein you say you don't eat a lot of carbs so we got protein for you in the house today we're going to have a great conversation yes we will thank you for honoring my really low carb diet I really like that I want to stay in shape how are you always on a diet is just a lifestyle because I feel like those thing two things are they go hand in hand I I'm always on a li a diet most times I would say because I try to watch what I eat um the the more carbs you eat when you get older you're going to put in more weight so and also I just feel like overall I practice what I preach when I tell my patients to cut down their carbs I try to do the same thing yeah okay so okay so like we introduced you you're a doc you're doctor I am you're you're you're the Mr apple a day keep the doctor away correct I am how did you even get into that where did they all start from um The Passion of being a doctor The Passion of being a doctor started from my family my other sisters a doctors herself and um so I was much younger than her she went to med school and I just said you know what I think I'm going to also be a doctor one day um I was fascinated by the the Greek and Latin words that were reading books nothing was very very Gary to me when I would see blood and and cuts and things like that I liked it um I was gifted with good memory I am still gifted with that so it was very easy for me to e quickly decide what I wanted to do and my family kind of said okay you know what go for it I know regrets I'll do it all over again I feel like every family will support you being a doctor I feel like I feel like early Nigerian fames supported lawyer doctor and a businessman intervene you're right Engineers too I Engineers that's a huge one oil come on now don't play but how big is your family well I have four siblings so it's pretty much it's a big family because now people have two three kids right so five back then that's not pretty that's not back then yeah for you have like 11 for one one father one mom my mom my mom my mom was the last out of nine I think my dad has like 11 siblings wow yeah they were building football I think my uncles and aunties are like eight or nine I can't remember but we're five I think it's it's just getting small and smaller as you go on yeah but F it's it's kind of big now are you the last last born no I have a younger sister yeah okay she I I think I'm the last born in my mind cuz younger I I I think I am but no really she is so elder sister I have two brothers and then myself so we have the girls like first and fifth and then the boys three in the middle yeah so so all of you in America right now well my elder sister who's here she's the doctor here she's in Lagos and then the rest she yeah she's she's a doctor here at the military Hospital yeah what type of doctor she does Pediatrics so when people call and say are you Dr RL ask aua's um sister she's like yes I don't think she really likes it because she's very very like you know laidback and quiet and more and more in your face kind of person so people see her last name and they say Dr as aguara do you know another they're like yes he's my brother have you have you always so so when I was watching you again I the first thing that came to my head is he's a showman I am I really want to dive into like your early days like have you always been a showman always been a show St because I was like was in a theater I was on the stage always naturally I've always been a showman I've always stopped at party and and and walked into a place with so much confidence I've always been somebody who um was very outspoken people knew about me like yeah I've always been that person always and I'm always going to be that person so it doesn't really um bother me when people say oh you do too much cuz I'm I'm too much okay yeah probably too much so your ear life was in Lagos cuz I know you were born inos right born in Lagos lived here till I was 18 then moved to Europe first in France and then stayed there I was going to get into that all of that okay fair fair fair so well you're ebo I'm ebo yes what's your last name asag guara but it's actually asag guara let me say the EO way people don't like when I said say ASA gu you speak evil of course where where in where what part of EOL and what state my dad is emo my mom is anra where in IMO State my dad is from um iku local government yes so a little bit outside of oare about what about your your mom she's from orumba North aali yes it's yeah e I'm really EO pure bread e never we I was born in Lagos but in my home we cultivated the habit of speaking EO at home and respond you know like learning all those little things and then you know you have to do like languages in school so I took ebo as my extra language I aced it all through I could write it back then now I can't write in E anymore allar student School allar a all a everyone be saying there seriously seriously I was look at work no no no no I had nine A's no I've been all stars really I had the highest trust you doctor I mean you're a doctor Ian people are going to see this people are going to see this so my classmates know I've all we always were you top in the class you like top five top top number one one two one two yes one two one two or one two three um one two three yes but then when I go when I go home when I go home it's a problem when I we're getting the top five yeah no no when I go home that's a problem hey top three yeah it's not good were you the smartest out of all your siblings my elder sister is actually smarter than meor she's yes she's she's top one I've always been the first um yeah any of your parents doctors no my grandfather was a nurse that's the closest I can think of anybody in the medical field and that's it how what about your dad your mom my dad was in the Army he was a retired officer in the Army he found no no my dad is not that old he didn't find he was younger then but he knew about it I think they were like 10 8 N9 10 11 they would walk around and they were afraid of you know the bombings and things like that sad sad news yeah but you know I would have been a war if I were then I would have been like carry gone and let's do it [ __ ] I ain't finding [ __ ] I don't know what the doctor is talking about I'mma watch you I'mma clap you on as you go probably wear skirts and think I'm a woman fact go hold bar brisky on that no but I I really want to uh dive a little bit more into the early life who are you closer with cuz I'm a mama's boy I'm a mama's boy hey mama's boy um all my life and so my family we were very close my siblings and I are we we we grew up in a loving home single PR home my parents separated divorced when we were younger and so my we were all kind of M's boys all of us are M's girls all of us in the way um and but I think I was more particularly more of a mama's boy than my brothers were because they went to boarding school and I stayed back and I went to a school like you know how you go to middle school and high school Secondary School from home so so you're like your love for fashion you know you knowing how to like treat women as a gentleman it came from you hanging around more with your mom and your s yeah especially and just love for fashion what you mentioned how to coordinate put things together think of colors and just where you're going yeah from my mom just watching being around her she owned boutiques and so would go there on Saturdays if you know school and you can sit there listen to her talk to people um transel and and people ask about color I knew all the colors like fer pink uh magenta the colors that people would not know I can tell how your eyes are Li why haven't you started a fashion line what's going on one day I don't know that I'm that good to do that your eyes you're so passionate you're like you're talking about I don't know would you buy if I if I no I always like supporting friends but things like I you're one of these people I'm sure they' be making up colors they'll be saying purple as magenta what is magenta like what is going on guys pink has different names now different names there's there's all kind there all kinds of pink colors just give a funny color named C what Y is that a planet no it's a color you have different I mean when you look swear he said superi if you look like a no the s there's uh zero blue there's um you have all kinds of greens it's not just emerald green you have I mean yeah you can go in the palette of colors and choose what you want and then the nuanes so somebody says I have an as everybody wear pink or you're like pink is it pink pink pink or are we doing pink what kind of pink are we doing pink well you have families of pink you know Peach is in the family of pink peach color peach yes so they have like Peach is orange well it's maybe you can go into orange and pink so they in that kind of hue like the Hues I wouldn't call it really orange I would say it's more like in that pinkish um H unless it's mild orange you know oranges can goepel yeah different levels fair but the light orangey as it could be okay so let's live the early lifestyle you know you know picked up fashion picked up the love of being a doctor from your sister a lot of people don't notice you were in France studied in France yes I speak French fluently no because it's like my my I speak French the way I speak English a lot of people don't know this because your your accent people think when people hear your accent they're like like oh he sounds a little bit feminine but the thing about it is that I was like I did my when I was doing my research I was like why you have a mixture of French and American accent I do so that it affects you it affects the way I and even when you talk I feel like you want to speak French but you remember oh it's English so you like you always have to overly annunciate overly explain so that because if I promise you if you guys if people actually notice somebody that just learned English like a fir that just learn English like and he can conversate with you properly in a passionate way you see like he he over more descriptive yeah ex I never thought about it though now that you're saying it I never thought about it it's it's I would say it's a more descriptive language than English oh it's Latin so you have to it's not just the table or the the food on the table it's the beautiful food on the table well played it's so the French language is very rich so when you learn a young it kind of like the plasticity of the brain it makes you think deeper so when I think about things I want to describe something or the way I write people say I'm a good writer I can write things deeper more like in a poetic way yeah how was FR I loved it very good amazing I go there every year it's my second home 13 years in France I spent what what what what part I was in Strasburg which is the east friends near Germany the last City that's where I went to school I I had a degree in French language I have a degree in French language I went to med school there then moved to Paris I did my residency as a doctor in Paris just like a specialization then I moved to the state you're you're well let's just say you're well traveled I am I've been to almost 60 countries I yeah what's your best one France besides France besides France I would say my what other place I actually like Sagal a lot I went to a place called Sally which is not the car it was very peaceful to me so what I consider a place that I like I enjoy is when I can go to a place beyond the Aesthetics is just the culture how proud they are of their culture the people though how they welcome you if I'm immersed in that culture then I like the place so I was really um pleasantly surprised that I enjoy Sally it's like a small community in Sagal that I liked food is amazing they're very rich on fish yes and they're very proud of their culture their women they the elegant African women that you see there in Sagal I mean it's they're proud I feel I feel like they're one of the um few African countries that still Embrace that old African Vibe yes you know they wear their boo boos proudly they wear their anaras proudly I mean I love Nigeria that's why I come back a lot but um I would say when you see a Nigerian sometimes overseas they'll say I'm not Nigerian I'm not Nigerian they'll try and deny or run from it they don't do that there yeah so you like you said you studied as a medical doctor I am a medical doctor I am a medic MD you have an MD it's noty it's not everybody can do it facts facts facts especially res because people forget people forget how tough it is to so so why did you now leave that practice and go into the I didn't leave it so you're still a medical doctor and you still do the uh so in America yes good question in America so I'm an aesthetic doctor so we're allowed to do healthcare related things that help you glow so when we do Botox fillers okay it's kind of it can be superficial sometimes but some people come for medical reasons you know I have people facial paralysis where half of their face I have a lady who get a stroke um it doesn't move so well there are ways you can use neurotoxins like botox and put in some erors to help realign the face restructure rebuild um we have people coming to lose weight get healthier it's more for of their health and but you know you see the outward projection which helps them glow but people forget that also it helps you your psyche the way you think the way you see yourself it helps you get more confidence in things that you do but overall that helps your health span improves your health span and you can have diabetes get corrected just by losing weight um problems cardiovascular problems like high blood pressure people who have illnesses that they have I have people who come to me because they have infertility and then they send them to lose some weight to help increase your chances so I'm still a doctor I look at it from that perspective that lens of saying if I do this for you fine you get the glow but also what does it help in your overall health how does it help you as a person I want to ask you do you also get patients that have been let me use the word the word that everyone uses bot like they've had a bad B talk do they come to you yes they come to me and sometimes we can't fix it immediately the worst case you've ever saiden and I would say okay some I had a lady I mean I could relatively help her out her lips were so swollen it was disfigured from multiple lip fillers that were badly done over the years so I was very honest with her I said I can dissolve the lip fillers but it will take a while for you to see the progress and see the outcome so we have to wait we dissolve you come back it's a long process of dissolving waiting seeing what it g so she was like dissolve it and put more and do this said no we have to go back to the basics again and and get you back on track and let's see what it'll look like it's almost like you're going to tear down something and wait for it to settle before you put more or remove more so it's just like that patience and it was hard for her to she's like no I have to be at a wedding I'm like no if I'm dissolving this give you time to settle you come back and I may dissolve more but we're not putting anything more cuz her lips were completely distorted and it wasn't looking like a human like a human lip would look like you it was just very boom sausage like and damn this fig for her he say sausage like I mean it's it's she she she actually I think I think it took her a while to come to facts that she had to do something about it yeah God and we had people coming we know they have butched buddies or they have like everybody says BBL or they had silicon in there it's oh you also fix that I don't fix that I would say you have to go back to the surgeon who put it in to remove it because the problem with that is sometimes he only they can go they go overseas but if they can go back to the same person they will know where they put it what kind of material what kind of you know elements they put in there and then they can remove it if it's safe if everybody just messes with your buddy like that he can mess it up so the main I would say point I'm trying to say now is before you do anything concerning your health do your background check on the person make sure they're qualified they know what they're doing ask for pictures spend time with them talk to them if they're rush you into doing anything don't do it if they're not qualified don't do it things a pandemic and especially Lagos now every wants to have a big ass and and you just look at these women in the gym I'm like bro you look funny you look like a cartoon bro like you find it attractive if it's too much yes unattractive unattractive yeah if it's too much anything that's done too much like your legs are too pigs your ass is a freaking balloon like what are you doing like what did you do to yourself that's literally what comes into my head what did you do to what do you think is the cost of that here is it the pressure or what social media everybody's just doing kashian started a [ __ ] now now she removed her stuff now she's back to I want to have Gap thighs and it's too late for some of these shies now it's too late yeah they [ __ ] their [ __ ] up already yeah it's sad but I think it's all about also you knowing yourself knowing what you want every everything is not for everyone you know sometimes you need to do a few things some people need a little bit of you know enhancement a little BBL out here and that that's okay but not everybody needs a BBL not everybody needs everything that's it so get a good doctor that knows what they're doing talk to them ask questions and see if it's for you so how did you get into Show Business where did that even like were you did you that's something you always wanted no did you ever do it in America no and you're in ATL that's like no I never did and I have friends that are in show bees I have friends from different shows that as they come to my clinic for different things that my friends we hang out on different shows have you I've never have you met the real housewives in in America like yes they're my friend so many of them fedra is my friend Cynthia Bailey's my friend I have yeah I know them and the thing about it is that I think I the only the closest I came to was the show that told me hey would probably like you this this and then and that I'm not allowed to talk about it but it was it's it's a big show but it was just too much for me because it requ yes that kind of show and I didn't want to do that because I said oh I'm a I don't think I want to do that where you can possibly fight and do things and do all of that said I don't know that I want to do that so I I didn't want to do that real house it's different see I'll tell you why it's different because our our show is a a lifestyle show that pushes for positivity it helps people see that they're different kinds of people so my Coast if you think about it you have tra who's an attorney but you can be an attorney and be a fashionist and have businesses and have a personality I can be a doctor and still be on a show and be dramatic you can have Yaba who owns businesses and she's a mother but also you know keeps her body right so it it's about showing that there's no one style why did you only call those two people they those are my good friends they are way more cast members no no okay those are the ones that just came to mind those are my very good friends you know don't do don't do that doctor that's not star okay let's talk about okay Laura kg I can talk about la la K you know she owns I mean if I think carefully she owns her own boutiques and things that she does she's in that very very uh well-known family but she can still come out and you know speak her mind and that's you know you what I mean so that's the vibe I'm going with you try to be I'm not trying to shade anybody I even ask the questions yet you already going let's go I mean I'm just saying so it's it's different our show in our show you hear positivity you see it you feel it you you know that we're there to entertain people but also to show our lives in the middle of that just like in every um friendship or every group people fall out sometimes okay but they get back together let's let's let's let's dive into the show you already started it up let's dive into the show let's do how did you even get into the show re really really was I mean we we saw on the show Faith introduced you but how did you actually get on the show no let me tell you this the show the show reaches out to people that they like or they think will be good for the show so they reached out to me indirectly and then directly and when they did I had to think about it because you have to indirectly through through a friend of mine who knows people I don't know that I'm allowed to say all of this things because we signed contract but through somebody just know through someone um and you know when I got on it the thing about it is before you get on the show you have to be casted they don't just reach out to one person think about it they can reach out to 10 of us okay so they'll choose who they want you also have to accept so I had to say yes no is it for me think about it talk to my family about it so that's how I got on the show it wasn't planned it was I think it was just destined to happen so I I always tell people this what is yours will be yours when is your time will happen believe and I wasn't looking out for shows I didn't reach out to any media houses producers I I wasn't even living here you always knew enter show business no I I before the show I'd only come back to Niner I left here 20 years ago I only came back once in 2021 before the show I only came back once after 17 years so the show when they reached out to me those my my fear I told them is I don't live there I'm this is but you're Nigerian by birth I said yes but I'm American I live in America like it doesn't matter do you want to come home I said I could come home but I have never been home and I'm a little bit we about it so I came back for the show that's what brought me back and when I came back I'm like oh I miss Nigeria I like Nigeria I love Nigerians I see the enthusiasm I see on the street people are Hawking things on the street but they're smiling to you they're running you give them a little tip they're happy you go to the market I like to mingle with people I go to the market Bel Market I talk to the women there we hog we laugh we play so I'm like I miss it I enjoyed it so I started coming back more and more and then I opened my clinic but was the show that brought me back so so how did you actually meet faith faith and I we've known each other before the show we knew each other before the show outside of the show in some circumstances I can't speak about some things remember there some things I'm not allowed to talk about if the person doesn't want to talk about it we're not allowed to talk about it because he can eventually affect my job my career the laws we have in America things you can't say because because I because I'm still a doctor remember yeah I definitely understand I definitely understand that but I'm saying what I'm trying to say is like was it the show that brought both of you together in Lagos so like the show was like oh let it be like no you're introducing faith is introducing you into the show well guess what she came for the plot for the plot she came for her own I can't speak about her I came from I came on my own she came on her own so on the show everybody has somebody has to introduce you why when you watch a show you just can't spring up and come to the table and everybody's looking who are you somebody has to say hey come to this event with me and I'm going to introduce you so everybody on that show and even after the next year is the next next um the next season three four five six you're going to see people that will come in that other people have to introduce it doesn't necessarily mean more than that it's just that to make it easier for people around the table and people watching somebody has to come and say hey just like fate somebody has to introduce around the show you know I may have to introduce somebody on the show that's how it goes were you guys actually friends well I consider her a friend then my perspective of friendship like when I say friends like not close friends but I consider her a friend yeah because of the energy that you guys shared no not that I just because of how I see people if I I consider somebody a friend when I feel like I can feel free with them that I can talk to them I feel like they're genuine towards me and I am genuine towards them it's a real relationship that is real because I can meet somebody outside we can laugh talk play if I don't feel like there's a connection or anything like that I can just say I met them they're good a coworker oh you interviewed him on the podcast but I may not say friend I Mayan not say friend to somebody else but if I feel like oh outside of that we can hang I like the person I think they like me back it's that symbiotic relationship that I felt yeah then I call them a friend but you know you can be wrong and it can be one-sided and that's the freedom we have and that's the beauty of it you can change your mind because I say this because uh I I knew you through the show through the show show but I didn't watch the show yet so and I and I and I like that why because I I saw your energy I saw you as you I saw you outside of the cameras outside of everything I saw you as doct and I appreciated your energy I remember the day it was at uh oh they we ran to each other little girl birthday yeah que Queens little girl's birthday and uh I watched the show and I saw how you and Faith were the commad you know the bante you guys are Shar in beginning of the show first few episodes then your event or you guys event happened first of all whose event actually was it well you watch I I watched the I watched the show and you introduced you introduced the uh you introduced the event and she was like yeah I'll bring some of my my people so what I'm trying to say is off camera because we don't see no on camera did you watch yeah on camera it looks like it was your event but she supported it by bringing her friends no have you watched the real housewi before other franchises other I we have what you call you have what you call wives of cast that are wives they're women mhm so you what you call friends of a show okay I'm a friend of the show meaning you're not friends to only one person you're friends to the show so you're free to even though you may be more closer to one person or the other the reason I'm bringing that back is the Genesis of the show is you cannot as a friend host a party on your own without doing it with a wife period as easy as that whether it's in Lagos that you do whether you callous P PL Orange County pic it doesn't matter it has to be a watch wife the wife can then say I want to do a party with you because you know what you're a podcast guy I know you people like you do something with me because that way it's not always if you do the same thing over and over it gets boring so that's it so that already tells you that it cannot be just my party do you do you think it's our party so do you think she came from the approach of you was yours because the party was unsuccessful I don't even know you know you have to see her and ask her I really don't know much about fi and side see everything I know about her I'm going to say this to you I think you saw it on camera I was very honest when I'm the kind of person that when I'm happy with people people know it I don't know how to fake it which is a good and a bad thing so when I like somebody you know I like you when I when I'm angry with you I'll say it that's I don't have that filter which is probably good for the show or things like that because then they can capture my moments so when you hear me saying I'm disappointed in her I'm seeing it real live real then now if you hear me on the show progressively say we're not friends anymore and she had said that multiple times and I Don't Know Much Anymore going forward about her I really don't know why or what she did and why what she thought about and why she didn't you have to ask her I can only speak for myself and said I did a an event with somebody okay together let's still talk about on camera because it looked like you guys started as friends then you guys were not friends anymore yeah and one thing I will say is I felt like you should have come to like a little bit of her defense when because she's new you're new and uh what's what's the lightskins name again I'm so sorry Tanya Tanya she was new too and I felt like yabor cha and you know a lot of people were were at a point coming on her neck and and I don't I don't know whether you did it off camera but I I was kind of looking for you to to come to her defense a little bit and be like y'all Y y'all y'all you know y'all let's take it easy you know what I mean like she's chilling she's minding her business you know CU cuz cuz I felt honestly I know you [ __ ] with yabo but my genuine feeling especially with everything as we going on this week of Yaba is I don't know I know she's your friend but she gives up a very very mean person right she's not she's the nicest person you could ever meet she's the nicest of all the ladies on that show swear I swear the and this is genuine and I'm not saying it because she doesn't even know I'm doing this it's it's real you have to meet people so what I Tiana and that sorry but Tiana is a [ __ ] G Tiana I mean Tiana is a everybody on that show brought their own personality and their style now to know somebody deeply spend time with them that's how I J judge people not from an episode or two but fine it's okay for people to judge through those things because that's all they see so I don't expect people to just buy what I'm saying all I say is spend time with the people and you see but do you feel like do you feel like yabo especially was a little bit too mean to her no I don't think you think everything she everything she gave faith faith deserve you know and I'm not going to speak for yo because I think I'm going to like your because watch the show as yes what I would say is because you know you know people you have to allow people say what they're thinking and why they do things but what I would say to you is there was no fair or unfairness okay from anybody neither from my perspective including when you said about faith no we all came individually we did our thing it's a show okay it's a show you're there it's a reality TV show we're there to have fun we're there to grow together but if things happen it doesn't work out it's the show so that being said sometimes we may do things that may seem off to you but it's more than just what you see watching a clip that's what I'm saying and because I was on a reality show don't realize that hours and hours and I was on Big Brother and there's a lot of stuff that people don't see and when I come and I'm like you cannot see it that's what I'm trying to so that's why I'm asking like you can't see are there are there some things that Faith did that that Pro because lot of you know I you guys you guys made Faith the plot of the season because there was a lot of well you know what I mean no I I I disagree I disagree I feel like you're right you were saying something about maybe the things that happened behind us and yes there lots of things that happen and the context can mean that you can have something with somebody on camera now it doesn't mean you go back home and not say sorry you may go behind the scenes and say hey oh I didn't mean it that way and wash it or you may go and explain yourself but it may not be filmed so if you don't see it at home as a viewer if you don't see all the hours of footages that we've had days and days for to be 45 minutes sorry this is very important if you don't see those things and then they just show the part that they can capture cuz remember the camera people can capture like now we're being filmed but they're not going to film me if at the end of the day I'm like I had a great time it was what if I walk out of here saying horrible interview I hate it and everything but you don't film it you would never know so you have to put that into perspective and say there was when you say when I speak about myself there are moments maybe you didn't see me tried to reach out to her because there moments I probably did and you people never saw when you say maybe well you not a good friend to her maybe I tried to be maybe she didn't want it so those are things that make it so complex turn down those advances those are things that make it complex where if you don't see it you don't think it ever happened so you judge the person say you didn't try enough maybe I tried just maybe it didn't happen and maybe you you get to a point where you don't want to try anymore because you're also human remember it's a show it has to respect a time constrains if it's 40 45 minutes that they have to cut everything condens it they'll condense hours and days and days so many things will not make the C so many things that I wanted to see or talk about or Express I didn't see it was I angry my life my life other things going on family things that happen things I want to clarify what I said to this person what this person said about me you'll never see it sometimes behind the scenes after the show airs some people that know you un like it will call you and say let's talk about this let's this is how it happened and then you can take it easy so I don't take it so deeply um because I know that the context is not it's very I'm very nuanced in the way I see it's not easy for you to capture everything and that's why I'm more forgiving on the show in reality you and I if we hang out a whole day 24 hours a day doing everything together and then you now do things to me I would say but I saw you all the time you didn't have any chance to talk to me you had chances you didn't do it that's different but if you and I are filming action card go we go home and I call you on the phone that night and say I'm so sorry or oh let's talk about this and nobody's there the next day if you come back and say oh he never called me and everything and I never watch it till the end because you know when we get to see it when it airs like everybody else weeks months after not the very week because you don't shoot something and release it that same week you know you have to do a whole series so have you and Faith have a had a conversation we're not friends we're not friends so you guys I'm not talk no I I don't intend to talk to her we're not friends well it's mutual remember you can't force friendship on anybody I don't feel like it's necessary and I don't think she feels it's necessary so that the the finale when you guys were in the getaway beach house yes all those stories that you were saying that oh Faith wanted to take the crown all this type of stuff were they real get to see it because there were things that were said off camera things that we had discussed that all happened but you never saw it and that goes back to what I'm saying just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen because I generally felt like the way you made it seem I thought faith will come into the show with a little bit of more she came in confident as she is she came in a little bit proud as she should I mean she's in the midst of a lot of proud women and M she didn't give me a Vibe of I'm going to be very much the queen enforce my my stance she came in and she was very very much nice I honestly felt that some of the women were intimidated by her intimidated by that's your opinion that's your opinion and you're allowed to happen I'm ask I mean you part of C you don't see I don't see don't see see I don't see that and the and I don't I don't agree with you and just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't have happen you on reality TV you know how things are edited and so it is what it is we're just going to say it's it's it's it's happened and um but everything I said that you said that the getaway everything happened everything was discussed everything I said was and I the reason I brought that up I remember telling them I think they caught up that I said I'm only saying this now because of all the things I've been hearing behind the scenes because I went back to the States for a long time the smear campaign this and that and so I had to clear because everybody was like you need to come back back and clear the air and say things why you why aren't you guys friends anymore why aren't you guys hanging out anymore what's going on who what is what is all this so I had to come and clar it so it wasn't like I'm just coming from nowhere and say hey by the way let me tell you what's going on it's because I'm hearing oh no no no I'm all innocent I'm good nothing is happening he's a liar he's all that I'm like you know what okay let me come and speak my mind that's what I did and I said everything to her face if you noticed she didn't refute anything she could have said no he's lying to my face cuz I how dare you say that to somebody's I'm looking at you telling you you had this conversation she didn't just want to even entertain the conversation are you hard you're speaking for her like you know her I think you're very biased I'm going to say this because you're speaking for her like you know her like you you're in her mind and you don't know you're not there you're not you don't you can only assume you can assume so don't be biased when you ask for to be no because yeah because you said of saying my friend see you said of saying my friend but you think she's a mean person and all that you don't know that she's she's not and I and I I'm speaking from people that know her in the industry I think you should do your background check and ask people in the industry who know her not just me who know her behind the scenes I've I've actually ask people told you she was mean I've asked they they told me that she's a fiery character character to play a role no no no no like she's naturally she's a very like fiery character well yepo is passionate I'm just not going I'm about things that really affect other people more than herself I'll say this again if something if you look at even if if you look at the show the most of the things she talked about or the areas that she wasn't happy about if you think about it wasn't really fully about her either she felt it was trauma that maybe or somebody else or me that she was trying to speak up for and that's how she's in live because she has the activism in her when she feels something is not right she speaks up more than people that just pretend and say I didn't see she would say look this has to stop so it's more like a passion you think she would do that to her fault like even when you're wrong she will still defend I feel like I feel like if she if if you you lie to somebody and trick her into that and she doesn't know that yes but when she knows that you're wrong and she knows and sees and it's clear she will not even defend but if if you manipulate her lie and make it look like oh I don't know what's going on save me save me save me and she feels like she can do something to speak up on your behalf she will and that's a good character to have now has she come out and say she came out and apologized publicly so oh I was doing a show you you I'm sure you heard about that I mean she basically made it seem like she wasn't being real like it wasn't she was playing a role but I feel like that discredits I was going to come to that I feel like her saying that I feel like it discredits the show because people want to see the reality they want to see you both vulnerable and strong and I feel like that is the beauty especially for real housewi and also a basketball wise franchise we see your vulnerability we see your pain we see your good side we see your happiness we see your great times and your bad times we live your life you say I'm so passionate about faith because I watched you guys so like I felt engrossed in your lives same way people watch big big brother and they're so passionate about their the the people they support I felt engrossed in your lives and and I and you don't think that's what she was trying to describe that look in all of that even in that passion that realness and that everything you're still conscious of the camera sometimes you still have to watch but doc but doc that's why I said even in the show I still saw your good heart I still saw and you didn't see her good heart I feel like there's there's so much did you watch season one did you watch season one and you saw how she explained carefully that the contract she did it on purpose had a bit of that fire firness because we need a show that's B so the thing is I this what I this is what I tell people and it's not like nigeran Z real I say this you cannot have a successful show where everybody's the same facts you cannot have a successful show where everybody behaves the same acts the same nobody wants to talk about a topic people on the phones you cannot have silence on the table let me ask you a question you have to balance just like real life the best but the best reality TV shows I agree with you they need different characters well those different characters are like that b 247 J Hernandez is a crazy ass woman Inside and off camera I generally feel like on reality TV I was a [ __ ] in my season but I can be a [ __ ] in real life everybody here knows that I have [ __ ] Tendencies but I'm a nice [ __ ] guy and I show that on Big Brother too but I feel like there is so much you can fake what if what if there's so much that what if what what if you show like you said you you can have a [ __ ] character you can have a good character what if you only what if you show your [ __ ] character like three four times a day and then the rest of the time you're showing a good character but that's the only one that is going to make the cut because that's the only one Sensational enough to bring the to create the balls to make the show comprehensive to this is where you come in because I'm asking I'm asking you is you think that's possible you think you it's very possible that's why I said is it a show that made her look like a villain I don't I don't even call her a villain I don't I think the show was very balanced you don't think she was a villain she was not a villain because to me she had her role to play I had my role to play I did my personality myself what do you think her role was though I can't speak about how you have to what your was your my role was just to be myself entertain people make them have fun um turn up be my bubbly self speak my mind at every moment you gave that and that's all I did and that's what I so when you see I I was very consistent in that and so sometimes it'll hurt some people sometimes it hurt other people but I didn't want to go in there and just pretend and say you know what let me make up some other thing what do people expect of me or when the wind blows this everybody saying oh he's doing too much don't then I not to it no I just I said this is what I'm going to be and it is okay to be different because that's what makes it a balance show Even In Real Life Look Around You it's it's it's and that's why they cast different people that can bring different yes and so because but people complain about it they forget that that's why it was interesting but doc that's what I'm saying like that's I agree with you everything you're saying the show is balanced because it's different personalities on one platform but it it kills the magic when you tell me that the personality that you're portray is not actually your personality I never said that no not you talking about yeah when she came out you have to interview her I don't know I I I really I I'm only just speaking from my end you CH you guys have we're friends we're very good friends I know you guys are but did you guys talk about the show after the show was done or you you guys like whatever it was it was not that we don't put so much attention to that because you know we're all busy people and terms of does it mean that we have not once in a while just see something and randomly or somebody reminds us people remind us this just event oh my gosh no group chat we you can run into somebody event they say oh thank you I liked you on the show but does it mean that we're just sitting talking about it no because even with the show it's just a minuscule part of our lives true it's not even 10% of My Life True it's just because you see it Amplified it looks like it but hey there's no show going on my life daily life is still busy morning till evening morning to evening and so are those women all of them everybody you mentioned all of them have things going on in their lives the show actually makes you stop what's going on in your life a little bit slow down from that and give time to the show because you have to have time to film a show it's a lot of work and so that's why I would say everybody played their role including faith and I PL everybody everybody was necessary everybody give a show everybody um how do I say was cohesive it became I like the show when I watched it if you ask me to me it was a fantastic show even even what's her name again the light skin man every um Tanya T Tanya everybody play their own personality their role their style their way of thinking their way of conflict resolution the way your personal is some people were more outspoken some people will not say but and that's good cuz if we were all boom bo boom rush rush rush it'll be chaos all the time everybody's fighting if we're all quiet nothing is happening snooze Fest people will sleep if we were all that's cre a show yeah you know and that's what you want for a good show even your big brother they want they intentionally people from all facts all walks of life different personality style people cry some people don't cry it's a social exp people fight facts I don't cry I fight you have hands yes got hands up hey don't [ __ ] with my doctor put hands on you treat you I never run from a fight you know what I mean so but you know some of the doctor may come and be like oh my gosh and some some of I feel like if the reunion was pack some of them girls would probably put them hands on you righto and and you think I'll do what watch them and and clap for them no they were ready and I was ready to what are you talking about no no no I don't I don't I don't think anybody would have come to the to the reunion to um physically fight because that's a little bit extreme I don't know that anybody wants to do that when this fight happen they happen out of that anger that you see in the moments but I don't think they come there because everybody's coming looking their best you have your your family your businesses so you're not coming there saying I'm just going to fight I have nothing to lose I don't have any other jobs or places I have to go to so but when it happens it's just because you know you're kind of more like saying ah maybe I shouldn't have gone there so yeah that's honestly no the little I know of almost everybody I can tell you that I don't think any even if you see any fights it was not the plan it was just unfortunate human emotions things you to hang out with some of them yes I consider everybody on that show my co- worker my co- cast some of them I'm closer to but let's start from the basics everybody we're on the same it's a team thing we're all working together we all have one purpose to make it a great show to enjoy to show our lives and share our lives because if you're bringing somebody to your home or to your event you're you know you're bringing them into your intim Circle but also at the end of the day there's some of them that you get closer to in affinities that being made and you almost of the shows if you think about it every housewife show people that set up together don't end up being friends you end up finding more people one or two you yes most times you see people oh they're my besti I brought her into the show do you like talk on the phone with any still castmates yes Y is my friend tra is my friend we hang out when I'm in the country when they're in the country to them sometimes they know in the country if we have time we touch B and how very good she she she had her birthday I have to check up on that with her I'm not sure now but I know that she is um that you like her I'll let her know I told you see that's why I can help you that's why I can help you you need to put in a good work I can put a good work I would I would I would I would change her life but see doesn't come free I cook but it doesn't come free I need more than that I'm a great cuddler I cuddle so are you gonna take care of her what do you think the cuddling is for she feels so safe in my arms like oh okay so if I mean I'll brush your teeth well I didn't know you were I didn't I knew you had a crush on her I didn't know it was this intense I feel I bro I feel like I feel like she smells like fresh pineapples shimma is an amazing person I just I just want to kiss her I just have you met her before huh have you met her yeah VCA and I and I was sweating oh you you didn't want talk to her you should have said hi I bro I I I should have she's very approachable oh yeah she was dancing too I was loving her moves next time you see her just stay n but I'm losing myself but you were talking about yeah the the show stopped a lot of things in your personal life yes sure affected the money it affected the money didn't you know yes he it will and all of us because the time you need time to you know what what which is why I say people don't realize how you give so much of yourself when you do a show like that you know they look down and say oh you did if it's easy come and do it it's not easy um season three season three you have to you do I have to if the timing is right the money and the timing is right the money the timing the opportunity and all of that yes I probably will consider I like the show I like the production I like the codcast that I had even the ones that I probably don't get along well with it's okay to be like that thank you you so you see how I think I reason like that it's okay I don't want ever supposed to be I don't mind that I just want everybody to keep the same energy yeah what and we're going to keep the same energy everybody I I feel like if yeah I don't want anybody coming out and say oh know I was playing a ro if I don't like no if if I don't like you on the show you would know and if you do some things that make me like you I can make mistakes and say oh I judge you wrongly so can people make mistakes and say oh I like you more now oh I don't like you anymore y can tomorrow say I don't want to hang out with you any you know what I mean it's okay it's allowed because so did you apologize to CH for what you said before you met her who CH yes I've apologized to Cha and she understands that it wasn't from a place of malice I was just defending my friend you were being a showman showman for my friend and just saying hyping her up it wasn't meant it wasn't like intentional like oh I meant this that no she understands yeah because we hang out we talk we see the it's beyond just what you say it's how you treat people what you do matters more than what you say I can come here and say all kinds of crap um but at the end of the day I'm the one that's caring you reach out to me I'm there for you I'm I'm you're going to be like it's more of a friend than somebody who is telling me I'm there for you and everything but when you reach out to them they're the ones stabbing you in the back but on camera I can play that I'm a perfect person so intentions matter actions matter too can you can you tell when like somebody has done B talk not all the time but if they're if they if they now boat HS let's say this sometimes you can tell if it's done poorly extremely you can tell that it's badly done or um if it's done and there's a an accident that happened it changed some shapes and structures but most people they'll just have arrested I have botox some people don't ever know that I have botox I tell them I have botox I have patients that have a natural looking face it's just that it doesn't allow you have the wrinkles um you're rested you have that glow and that's the type that I do I don't do the type where people do too much celebrities with BS like extreme ones I I see extreme ones in America in here in Nigeria no not really sometimes you see some overseas and you're like o maybe they did too maybe they have to Nigeria just got used to it slowly so I've not seen anybody that's like so extremist where you're likeo for Botox fillers maybe you see some people like oh the filler is not sitting well and that's different fillers they're like the things you put to fill up an area maybe cheekbones it may look def deformed I can see those things but yes B trucks is harder I just know when people have not done it and then when they need it I know more okay I can look at somebody I say o in my mind I would tell them probably need a little bit of something to help you cuz it's making you you look more tired and maybe you're not glowing and not everybody needs it they would say no I don't care I'm in the song I don't need it I don't fine but if they say oh you you're right I need something just to help me grow because why do people put makeup on every day for their self for their beauty for their style because of just what they want same thing some people would say I want to do this some people would say no I think I'm aging too fast or I think that I don't look like myself I've neglected myself like a self-care thing yeah and last question the food is good by the way appreciate you prote high protein come on now the only we missing is the eggs but uh very good we give credit to shout out to the big beard with a big tummy 65 uh man in the background our our cast member shout out to him for providing the protein and shout out to uh the little lady with the for the SAS appreciate you thank you sorry do not we are having a podcast not bring the wall right now big man but anyhow I want no no before we get to questions Laura Laura okay you never directly responded to what she said what did she say Laura said so many things I don't remember is it when I when I left no no no when she when she said when they're bringing a gay guy on the cast what do you want me to respond to Laura Laura said what she had have to say what she thought what she heard or you just have to say cuz I feel like those yes ma'am those things are damning you know assassination or character no not to me I think it's damning if you buy into anything okay if you don't buy into it because we all say things tomorrow I can say XYZ U miracle miracle dresses up in in dresses every day in the evening and when I not every day only on Saturday Saturdays and Sundays and I run into him in a club and sometimes you won't recognize him he has makeup on you can choose not to respond and say what is he talking about is he really normal is this okay or you can say oh I'm going to fight you back I feel like when you're triggered sometimes it's because you're it's really affecting something in you that you don't want to accept or maybe you just don't want it out there or because you feel like it's a bad assassination of your character sometimes but for me I took it as a neutral statement that was uncalled for unwant head and I I I actually saw it because somebody sent it to me cuz we don't follow each other that's I said oh okay yeah that's it but no beef between she and I like it's not deep Lauren and I we see each the funny thing is I see her I don't dislike her you guys greet each other yeah if I saw Laura now I would greet her I I'm happy I'm happy I heard she had a baby I'm happy for her yeah you know so I don't I really don't dislike her the deep I can work with her be in the same room with her wish her the best I want her to thrive um because it's not coming from a place of malice I don't think she has ill will towards me but people can say things just to have a b or something or anger or balls or in somebody's ears or something but it's not I don't think that she sees me and says oh I hate that guy I'm going to pull him down oh I hate her I want to pull her down no some people maybe in life have come across them I don't really like them for some reasons and then I'll go against them and say okay let me fight you but Laura no so doc this is a part of the show where I leave the floor to you you tell the people what you're up to what you're doing what you have coming up hopefully a fashion line I'm hoping for that maybe maybe because you're always drippy drippy on the show drippy in real life anytime I see you look smart thank you put together shout out to your mom for that facts facts if not for my mom I'll be looking rough facts but anyhow tell us what's coming up bro what's coming up okay so I think I'm just going to continue doing what I'm doing thriving in my various clinics um being a good doctor as best as I can but also keeping my eyes open for other the opportunities that are out there what's the name of the clinic by the way it's called dream weight Botox Clinic how many I have three of them in Lagos two in America one in banana in Lagos here okay yeah so in so y'all need to go hit that up if you guys need your boto talks if you guys need your body done or just talk and just see I don't know I don't even know what to do what do I go where do I go from yeah it's okay not to know and talk and so not everybody needs everything and it's also a safe space as well Dr Ral is the best in the game and he knows the game he knows the way how to do the thing I'm not a rapper though but but it's a good way of saying you said it better than I did hey but the man with a Happy Feet thank you the man the showman himself the star man one of the biggest reality TV stars in Lagos today in now you're hyping me now you're h no no no I have to I I giving people their roses you did your thing and you are one of the biggest and I love how you use your platform to address stuff that you're uncomfortable with that needs that needs to change I appreciate it and I feel like people need to do that more often use your platform for good I think you're passionate about I honest respect you for that and I tell you off and on camera I give you your roses and I just want to thank you for coming on the show you didn't have to do this like you just came from America you just have to do this and you honored the the the house Chronicles giving me this platform to push my PE and talk my [ __ ] I didn't say that in the beginning so I'm going to say it now and thank you for coming to having brunch with me I really really it's been an honor for me to be here and you've been doing so well lately I'm proud of you I've been seeing all the interviews you've had your growth um it's good that you're not just unidirectional you're doing so many things you're able to break out of just being from a show and then coming out not doing anything so I really applaud that I'm here to support and this is one of my ways of supporting you you so much doc I really appreciate that shout out to the doc in the house ladies and gentlemen tune in to the next episode we are out