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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes Lockie Jones and Lleyton Wall, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Speaker 1
She goes in front would help the younger.
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Speaker 2
Of courage.
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Speaker 1
Unbelievable. There's nothing but. Racer man. World championship title.
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Speaker 3
All righty. Are you back? Lachlan Jones is sick, but we're at episode 50 stone funded podcast. I'm Leighton. This is my good friend. Today. You done well, Lachlan. I know I miss a professional triathlete, but. Yeah. Yeah, I feel as if I'm more of a professional bloody podcaster at the moment. Yeah, that's what it's for. Yeah. Sorry. Hopefully this doesn't annoy anybody, but yeah, I've got a bit of a raspy voice at the moment.
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Speaker 3
Very raspy. Yeah, it's been a big couple weeks. It's been a big couple of weeks. Couple of weeks? Yeah. We missed last week. We were in Japan. No. Did we miss last week? Yeah we did. Yeah we did, we did we did we were we were on tour in Japan. Yeah. So we. Well, I'd raced and then I was just I was just seeing the sights.
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Speaker 3
You were seeing the sights. And then we took a couple days to see more sights. Yep. So that was fun. And funded. Took over Japan. I feel like I feel like that's something not a lot of athletes do. Go do a race and then take a couple of days to actually, I mean, look, probably for the best because we did a lot of walking around, not a lot of training.
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Speaker 3
So it's not it's not the best if you want to be a professional athlete. But but we had our fun. We made a consciousness decision before this race. I feel as if not many of us are racing for a little while. Yeah, probably like 2 or 3 months. Yeah. So we're like, we may as well. We're in Japan.
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Speaker 3
We've been here so many times, we may as well see a couple different things. Yeah. And it was good. We went to Nara, saw lots of things. The Boeing deer that were cool, that were cool. And then we went scary, actually. Yeah, they were biting people. Yeah, yeah, I think I think cars bum a lot of, a lot of people thought we were being a bit sucks Suki about that.
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Speaker 3
But until you're in that situation where you've got ten deer just charging at you wanting food, it's scary. It was a sight to behold. Some of the people with the like little deer biscuits, and they're just charging after them after a little bloody bit of, you know, food. Yeah, it was good. And then we went to Kyoto. I wasn't too happy with that.
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Speaker 3
There was a lot of walking it. You got there at about 4:00 in the harbor, and it took us like, three hours to get there. I did not like that. That was not a day I liked it. Pissed down all day, miserable because there was actually meant to be a typhoon in Japan. Like that week that we were there.
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Speaker 3
And we copped it on the day that we went on the biggest exploration we did. So anyway, that was good to see. So I mean Team Japan, you never know when you'll go back. Yeah. So yeah, that was good. That was good. I feel like we had a we had a week of feel like usually we're very locked in like very it's very much train, you know, work, uni, eat, sleep, repeat.
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Speaker 3
It's just that I feel like last week I actually said it to non today at the pool I was like I had I had one week where I was not locked in. I was very unlocked. We had Chiara birthday as well on the Saturday. I know you didn't attend. No, I had a unique Sam. Yep. You were born.
00;03;12;02 - 00;03;32;02
Speaker 3
That's fucking rough. Yeah. 6:00 at night. You say so. Day. Night. Exactly. Brutal. And I was keen because after that we were like, oh, yeah, maybe the boys get together and have a little. Do you know you went to the races? Yeah. Yeah. No, I had a big day. I put that idea out there and I was like, oh, like, that'd be actually a great idea to go to the races.
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Speaker 3
Don't worry, I'll be fine. I ran with it. Yeah, you took it and ran. I took it around and pain paying for it right now. We we couldn't record yesterday because, dear God, if only you could see the state I was in yesterday. I mean, this voice. This is this is a this is good. This is what is good compared to what it was yesterday.
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Speaker 3
Yesterday. Oh, I could not I could not get two steps away from my bed. There's a fair bit of that going around, though. Yeah. You know, I love winter some somebody, somebody has to, you know, be the life of the party. And whether it's Japan or whether it's here, you know, at the birthday, I will, I will take that role.
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Speaker 3
Well done. Lucky self-proclaimed life of the party. Someone's got to be. And you know what? It's. Let's see if other people. I'm agreed to that. It's not. It's not. It's a it's a burden. And it's not a burden that I take lightly, okay? It's a big responsibility. It's a big responsibility. You do play well at that. That that little character.
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Speaker 3
Thanks, mate. Off campus in that, I reckon. Oh off campus. We were just talking about that that you have watched off campus, haven't you. I've been forced to watch two episodes, mate. I've watched the whole thing. I've watched it in about two days. Oh, yes. That's so my roommate and Stella, they said they watched it within, you know, the night.
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Speaker 3
Are you. Are you a team Garrett or team Dean? Well, I don't really know. See, I'm shocking with, like, any kind of movie. I've got the bloody brain rot in my head. I'm just. So. Garrett Garrett's the main character. Dark, curly hair. Dean's the blond. Which one are you? Oh, I haven't really got too far into the Dean story.
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Speaker 3
No, no, you don't need to know. Just who do you prefer? Which ones? Better looking. Oh, well, it's a bit weird to. Yeah, that's a bit weird, but I'd probably for Garrett. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Team Ali or team I, Hannah and Ali. There's only two girls that are the main characters. Hannah. Okay, you've just gone the main characters.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Yeah, yeah, we got that deep into it, so I'll come back with a review next week. It's the only thing that's been on my algorithm. Jesus. In the algorithm for lucky, my Instagram Reels has just been off of campus. What's the equivalent to a puck bunny in triathlon? Do these trial and have puck bunnies?
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Speaker 3
I don't know, try bunnies just like fangirls of the sport. Oh, sorry. Anybody that hasn't washed off campus, would you? Obviously living under a rock if you've not been watching off campus? Yeah, puck bunnies are like the fan girls travel around, they travel around and they're the fan girls of the the hockey team. Yeah. Try bunnies. Yeah, I, I don't know, I, I did throw out their bike bunnies before, but like, I feel like black bunnies would be black bunnies are good.
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Speaker 3
But I feel like I think that's the cycling. Yeah. I feel like cycling. If you're following around cycling lycra bunnies maybe, I don't know. Let's go try bunnies. Park bunnies.
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Speaker 3
Is that so good? Yeah. Park bunnies. They did try bunnies. Great show. Great show though. Yeah. I don't think we have try bunnies. No, I don't think it's really the sport. Unfortunately, triathlon is not on the list. It's not popular enough to have a fan base of. I mean, anything really. Also, none of us really look like that.
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Speaker 3
No. If you're studs. Oh, man. Like, gorgeous. Without sounding a little, you know, sus gorgeous specimens and we don't really fit that. Yeah. We don't, we don't use that persona, do we? We do our best sometimes. But no, I don't think there's many of those American chads in the sport of triathlon chads, because that just wakes at the end of the day.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Hey. Whoa. Yeah. You're a bit like Gary. I knew that was coming, you know? I'll take it. He's a good guy. Then Garrett turns out to be really good. Why did you ruin it? Yeah. Sorry. Oh. Come on. No. Maybe not. So we'll we'll recap. What was it called? Off campus. Campus? Next week? It's turned from a trifling show to a reviewing, off campus reviewing off campus.
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Speaker 3
There is something big that happened to Japan, which I think has been going around the rumor mill. What? My race? No, I don't even want to talk about that. Yeah, we can leave that one off. The podcast. The race. No. Another big scene that happened in which I think we I think we have to talk about. Yes.
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Speaker 3
And I think we have to get it off there just in case there's some false rumors getting around. And what happened over in Japan. But yes, we nearly got arrested. Yes, yes. They weren't happy with us. The Japanese authorities, the law enforcement, they were down on us. It was like the Swat team. Honestly, I've never had nine policemen and detectives, undercover cover cops all surrounding me like that before.
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Speaker 3
It was crazy. It was actually very intense. It was very intense. We'll keep a long story short. Essentially four of us, we had the we had train tickets on our phone. One of the boys bought the wrong train ticket. He had a physical training. He bought the wrong one. It was about $8 short. We'd go through the gates.
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Speaker 3
The gates beep. We weren't too sure what was going on. So we just keep walking. The train ticket man who obviously was Japanese, speaks just Japanese, doesn't speak English. He comes out screaming his lid like. Like we've just shot up the place. Yeah, like acting like we've just killed someone. He's coming out. He's grabbing us by the collar, grabbing us by the sleeve, pulling us back.
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Speaker 3
I'm like, what is going on? This guy's screaming at us in Japanese. Like, mate, mate, we've paid, we've paid. It's all good. We're like, promise you we're not trying to steal. He steals my phone. Yeah, he just snatches. I just see it and he just snatches like his phone. I'll go. Oh, oh, that said that sent me. Not good.
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Speaker 3
Oh the. What is it. Testosterone. Yeah. No cortisol. What does they call me. Oh Taz. Yeah. That's a, that's a UK thing. Yeah. Yeah. The Taz the little chimpanzee started to come out. You motherfucker just snatched my phone from me, so I, I like, follow him back into the office. He's scanning my phone. I'm telling him I'm like, well, we we went here, we went here, now we're here.
00;09;32;16 - 00;09;46;29
Speaker 3
We paid for it all. Like, well, I prove my point and I take my phone. I'm like, guys, we're leaving. We're all leaving. We've all paid. We've done nothing wrong. Anyway, he comes out and he's pulling us again. And a couple of us get a little bit like common mate, like, let us go. This is just like, stop grabbing me, stop touching us.
00;09;47;00 - 00;10;03;17
Speaker 3
All of a sudden he was at his phone calls the police. We're going. You are kidding me. You've just called. He's on the blower on the. And he's screaming in Japanese and like there's another lady filming us because she thinks we're about to assault him. Like we're just some Westerners that are trying to cause a mark. And I'm like, we're literally doing nothing wrong.
00;10;03;19 - 00;10;22;07
Speaker 3
Like, yeah, we're not for our ticket. We're not bad people anyway. Me and yo and one of the other boys, we tell the three others like you go walk home, will sort with this. So we walk home, right? Oh, yeah. So we're walking home. We had a K from the train station home and we're like, oh, like, what a big fucking kerfuffle over no reason.
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Speaker 3
Like, you know, a card declined and then it went through. And then, you know, like everyone got through finding the end and he was just kicking off a stink anyway. Like, we see one cop car flying. Like lights and sirens coming. Right? Right. Oh, yeah. And if you've been to Japan, you don't see many lights and sirens at all.
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Speaker 3
At all. Then two seconds later, another cop car comes. Lights and sirens down the body. Mainstream. I was obviously on the other side of the road. It was crazy. It was on the other side of the road going through traffic. Honestly. It was literally like we shot up the place. It was like it was massive. And then I was I walked outside and we'd been there for long enough where I was like, yo, I actually think we should just run because like, we've, we've genuinely done nothing wrong.
00;11;14;12 - 00;11;28;04
Speaker 3
All of a sudden, just as I'm like looking down the alleyway, two cop cars pull in, lights and sirens. They get out, they start running towards us, and I'm like, oh, yo, and they're here. And they weren't that aggressive, to be fair, when they got there. But there was a lot of them. There was, there was eight of them and then two undercover cops.
00;11;28;04 - 00;11;42;14
Speaker 3
And I'm like, what in the world is going on here? Like this train ticket? So like we try to go, we had all thought that we had paid properly. We all thought we'd paid probably we'd genuinely tried nothing wrong. So like, four of us had done it right, it got to the point where I was like, we're going to have to get the others back.
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Speaker 3
I call you guys and my guys come back just so we can prove to them that we've all paid, because they were asking for our three friends that walked off. I was like, got to come back. We proved to him that we all paid except the one person that had the physical ticket. He just he paid for entry into the station, not the actual.
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Speaker 3
It was $8 short, so there was $8 shorts. Was all this kerfuffle just because one person was $8 short? It was crazy. It was like the amount of public resource that they have for a train ticket being $8 short. The photo at the photo of nine coppers there. Yeah, surrounding all of us. And we're like, what the. Yeah, he's going on.
00;12;21;11 - 00;12;35;19
Speaker 3
Anybody that might have seen the photo, I think it was just put on a private story somewhere. But for anybody that might the photo is so funny because there's like there's like we clearly just had enough. There's me and Yohan in the background, just like we've been here for half an hour with all of these cops. You guys just got back.
00;12;35;20 - 00;12;51;07
Speaker 3
There's like. And it was like I was. We were frozen. We were cold. Wet. Oh, it was a nightmare. Yeah. And then, like, one of the boys, he went over and paid. He paid for his ticket. And all of a sudden they're like, yep, you can go. Yeah. And they're like, where are you guys from in Australia? Oh big Australian.
00;12;51;09 - 00;13;06;00
Speaker 3
Yeah. He was trying. He was like grabbing my shoulders. He's like, oh big muscly Australian. I was like, dude, just trying to kiss my ass. How is this? So suck me around the next day. Do you remember one of the coppers was on the train? Yeah, yeah. And we get on the off at the same station or something like that.
00;13;06;00 - 00;13;24;20
Speaker 3
And he looks at us and he goes, hey, I'm the policeman from last night. Like, mate, you've ruined my night. Like you ruined it. I was starving last night and cold and wet. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, that was one of our last nights. We nearly got arrested. So the photos. The photo is pretty funny. The photos are funny, but not very menacing at all.
00;13;24;21 - 00;13;44;18
Speaker 3
No, I mean, we did not. Unfortunately, we didn't really do enough to warrant that. But, you know, it's a story. It's a story. It's a good story for the pod. What we did miss, though, which we didn't get to talk about last week, which we I feel like we need to. Yes, there was big dramas over in Italy.
00;13;44;19 - 00;14;04;06
Speaker 3
Yeah. Al Jarreau weeks. We missed it. I know that's part of our thing. We talk about triathlon and we missed probably the biggest event that's happened. Yeah, the biggest spectacle. Spectacle in short course triathlon in a while. Like all the media's talking about this. We love, like, short course triathlon. It's always been our thing. We love short course drive.
00;14;04;11 - 00;14;22;10
Speaker 3
That's what we pride our podcast on. Now all of a sudden we're getting buddy the guys from Pro Tri News. Yep, their love and short course triathlon, our love and short course all in triathlon. You know what? You guys stick to your long course. This is our theme, buddy. Yeah. Takes over from now. Yeah. I'm trying to say it's all cool on that.
00;14;22;12 - 00;14;48;07
Speaker 3
All right? We've always thought it was cool. Yeah, they've all gone like, oh, it's short cross triathlon. The best form to watch. I know, I know, one person would never hear say that is Jack Kelly. You'll never hear. He would never admit it. He doesn't know anything about triathlon anyway. But it was it was honestly, from the multiple crashes in the men's race, the shakeups in the leaderboard to the drama in the women's.
00;14;48;07 - 00;15;09;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Good bit. Round, round fight. It was a cat fight. And it was good fun though. It was it was good to watch. And honestly, there's always going to be a lot of opinions. People always going to have their opinions on, you know, is there is there room for that in the sport? Do we want to? I feel like triathlons are very clean, polished.
00;15;09;22 - 00;15;26;12
Speaker 3
Yes. It's very clean cut sport. You know what we love? We like a little bit of mongrel that that's there's that's what we're about. I want to see Gene here. Just clock laser in the head with the water bottle. I want to see that. That's great. So funny. I want to see Cassandra Bergeron have nothing to do with her at the podium.
00;15;26;15 - 00;15;40;22
Speaker 3
But I also want Lisa to turn around and give her the finger. Yeah, I want a bit of, like, give and take on all sides. Like, I love it. It's so good. It's good for the sport. I mean, no, I think it's good for the sport. Just people talking. That's that's the argument here. So if people don't know.
00;15;40;22 - 00;15;58;25
Speaker 3
The big drama in the women's was Lisa Turk once again. Yeah. And I think this has been bubbling away underneath the scene in the women's field for quite a while. Yes. Let's let's not get it mistaken. This is something that I think I think Lisa does have a bit of a reputation for us. She ruffles feathers. You know what?
00;15;58;25 - 00;16;21;22
Speaker 3
She's a world champion, 100%. She's a champion. I've said this quote before. The best cheaters are those that are the best winners. Okay? Cheating is a stretch. Cheating the stretch. She hasn't cheated. No, I think she plays the game a little bit controversial. She's aggressive. She is aggressive. She's very aggressive. So like there's obviously rumors about her swim conduct misconduct.
00;16;21;22 - 00;16;41;14
Speaker 3
And like also you saw that in Yokohama. She was all over I think it was Sean Reigns. Yeah. There was even a bit of push and shove when she was exiting the water. Yeah. And then on the bike, we've we've talked about this before. Apparently she just does no work. And that's not against the rules. No, that's that's applied to strategy.
00;16;41;15 - 00;16;59;00
Speaker 3
It's it's. Yes. Exactly. Right. I mean it's annoying, but it's a strategy. Yeah. There's nothing in the rule book that says you have to pull X amount of turns. Yeah. So I mean fair enough to lease the Turkish. She can sit on the back and run as quick as she wants. Yeah. And then there was the water bottles.
00;16;59;00 - 00;17;20;12
Speaker 3
I think it was. I don't think there's anything wrong with what she did for you. I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Like it's not illegal by any means. People would argue the spirit of the sport. So if you if you. I've heard a couple stories because some people said that she came through and wiped a whole table of water bottles, which is not what happened.
00;17;20;14 - 00;17;43;10
Speaker 3
No, she there was two. There were two people at the water station holding out a water bottle each. She came past and took both of the water bottles, leaving behind her with nothing. Yeah. And then I think Cassandra gave Georgia. Georgia gave a bottle to hair. She drank it. Yeah. And then went, fuck you. Littering area in your head.
00;17;43;13 - 00;18;02;17
Speaker 3
Littering area in the back of your head. Oh. Cop that. Did she cop any penalties for that? No, no. So I think that's kind of the controversy is that there was no penalties on on anyone. Yeah. It's kind of like, so can we now just be chucking bottles at each other? See, I think we actually said that when when we saw it happen, we spoke about it.
00;18;02;17 - 00;18;21;22
Speaker 3
We were in Japan. We said if you were in that situation, what would you do? So would you chuck a water bottle out someone I don't think I don't think that warrants award bottle throw. No, honestly, for me, it's depending on who it is. If it was quite wild, I'm throwing something as it was quite wild. I'm throwing some in the back of his head.
00;18;21;24 - 00;18;41;24
Speaker 3
Maybe if it's, Who else? Who else would I throw? We'll just leave it there. Who have I who have I decide on the pod before? You've just plenty, Gwen. Georgia. Is it? Oh, my God, that was too far. No. Yeah, exactly. So you wouldn't really throw it at someone? No, not not not for that. Not for that.
00;18;41;24 - 00;19;00;27
Speaker 3
Not not not for say, if they did come through and completely swipe out off the all the bottles off the table. If it wasn't like a person handing you. I mean, you know what if it was three, if there was three water bottles and you went grab one and just dropped it on the floor? Yeah, that's a water bottle to the head, because maybe Lisa Terje poured one on a head and drank one.
00;19;00;27 - 00;19;15;09
Speaker 3
Drank one. You know, there is a reason for having two. There's not a reason for having three, and there's not a reason for, you know, just picking one up and throw it on the floor. Exactly. If it was a deliberate. Yeah. Fair enough. I could say that. Yeah. It's like maybe if someone was, like, trying to trip you over.
00;19;15;10 - 00;19;32;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. Or kept, like, nudging you or something like that and just fuck off. That was fair of the moment. Yeah. Water bottle to the back of, you know. Well, we saw a little bit of a beef between actually Cal McCluskey and Vince Louis, I want to say back in 2022, because Cowell was stepping on the back of his feet.
00;19;32;29 - 00;19;53;00
Speaker 3
Or maybe it was 2021. Yeah, I'm not too sure. But Cal was stepping on the back of his feet in Edmonton, and I know that there was a little bit of badge off the back of that. Vince tried to get Cal, dude. I was tried, argued it, got him back into the final. So a little bit different. But yeah, stepping on the back of fates a bit depending on if you're doing it on purpose.
00;19;53;01 - 00;20;10;16
Speaker 3
Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. It's all in the context of what's going on. So it's like, yeah, I'm, I'm not too sure about this one. See, I don't think it's like I kind of like to see it, to be honest. It's great for you. It's like. It's great. I like to say like, if they threw ward balls again, I would still love.
00;20;10;16 - 00;20;33;01
Speaker 3
And watching them laugh. Yeah. And it would be great should it happen. Maybe not. I don't think it's a ward bottle offense. I mean, like like don't. What is a water bottle? Offense. Yeah. I mean, like, again, if it's just frustration, frustrations boiling over play on like, they're not going to do it every race. Like we know they're not going to do it every race.
00;20;33;01 - 00;20;51;29
Speaker 3
It's like we've seen we've seen these things happen once every now and then. And it's so good for the sport. I think because it's like it shows that these are real humans. Yeah, these are real humans. Real athletes like emotions bubbling over to the surface. Like like, I don't know, I'm glad she didn't get dude for it, though.
00;20;52;00 - 00;21;12;03
Speaker 3
She did come third in the end. So that would have been came third. Yeah, but I'm glad. Yeah. John the Hare didn't get Deckard. Yeah. So I mean yeah. Spur of the moment. Good to watch. Yeah. Really good watch. We'll see it on let's say on this fly next. I can't wait to see because I don't see it.
00;21;12;04 - 00;21;30;23
Speaker 3
I don't see this being something that slows down anytime soon. No, no, I think that's I'd love to love to be in the little bubble of like the women's circuit. There's fire in the back. I love to hear the gossip in that. Yeah. If anyone knows anything, let us know. We'll share it on the pod. We love a bit.
00;21;30;23 - 00;21;52;13
Speaker 3
Of course. We'll keep you anonymous. No. It's great. I know, like I said, it's not just going to go away. No, I mean, and so that was the Gene and Lisa. Obviously Cassandra Grant's got her beef with her. Yeah. Because my God, she she shows it on the podium. Not have snubbed her anymore. No. Yeah. Could not arrogant French anymore.
00;21;52;13 - 00;22;12;08
Speaker 3
But like Cassandra has also done that to Beth before. Yeah. So her better friends now Beth is in public enemy. No. Public enemy. Yeah, but it's good. Keep it up. It's exciting at the front of that women's race. So anyway, we'll go to the results. Cassandra by Grant win. We call that she's back. Yeah. She was always going to win.
00;22;12;08 - 00;22;32;25
Speaker 3
Let's be honest. Yep. Beth Potter in second. I think she might have to relegate to second this year. I don't know how you beaten that run. Yeah. So Cassandra Grant had a 13 second deficit? Yeah. Out of 13 out of T2 as well. She just slowly wound it back in, which was very impressive. And then Lisa Turk for third.
00;22;32;28 - 00;22;48;10
Speaker 3
So got some great run battles going on. Yeah it's very good. And that was all between 10s of each other. Those three girls. Then you've got Jean Le here coming at the back. We had I think George Taylor Brown might have been next as well. You get Tilda Manson up in that spot. Yeah. She can vary in the front pack.
00;22;48;12 - 00;23;07;16
Speaker 3
I think some of the women's racing's probably like being more exciting than the men's system. Yeah, yeah, that definitely was. I mean, other than the Vasco Adele go sprint finish like that was exciting. That was a more exciting race in the men's. Yeah I agree. Well, then we might as well go on to the men. The men?
00;23;07;16 - 00;23;33;05
Speaker 3
So disappointing. Yeah, that was a disappointing race. I mean, again, like, kudos to Vasco and Hidalgo, who, you know, you got to stay upright. Yeah, finish the race. But, Yeah, my it was underwhelming that we had all of like, it was staged as the big dogs are back. We were meant to have Hayden Ward, Alex, Matt Hauser Hayden didn't start, Houser didn't finish, nor did Alex Honma didn't finish.
00;23;33;06 - 00;23;56;14
Speaker 3
Kentaro didn't finish. Graf didn't finish. Milner. Milner didn't finish. Jack Willis didn't finish like it was just so Henry Graf. So much carnage. Two minutes back on the bike or something. He crashed. He crashed twice. Yeah. So he crashed once. Got back up, tried to go again. Crashed a second time, pulled out. Yeah. So it was just like it was disappointing for what it was set up to be.
00;23;56;15 - 00;24;16;27
Speaker 3
Yes it was. Yeah. If we got the race that we thought we were going to get the week before. Yeah, it would have been one of the all times, I think, super disappointing that Hayden Wild pulled out. It was getting a little bit annoyed with those. Well he he did sound actually sick okay. And like you look at his T100 on the weekend in San Fran.
00;24;17;00 - 00;24;36;11
Speaker 3
Good point. He wasn't at his best. And like you heard that he sounded like you right now in his post-race interview. Yeah, he he sound absolutely shocking. Yeah. Okay. So fair play. For pulling out. I mean, there's no point going there looking stupid, especially against those guys. I mean, again, like we said, it was the big dog of big dogs.
00;24;36;12 - 00;24;57;19
Speaker 3
Yeah, but the ones that came out on top and I think it's now put the pressure back on the other boys. Yeah. Dabs Vasco and Miguel one, two. Vasco is doing bits this season. He is. He's two from two. Yeah. So he only needs one more win somewhere. This, this also forces the other boys to go race the rest of the season.
00;24;57;20 - 00;25;14;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, they're probably going to have to track to way high. I think we definitely saw like Houser wanting to do a similar thing to what he did last year where he can just call, I've got my max out, I've got my max points and I can chill. Focus on the grand final done. Yeah, it's definitely going to put a bit of pressure on them now.
00;25;14;03 - 00;25;35;20
Speaker 3
Even like a Conway like, because we are going into a Olympic cycle now. That's the start of the Olympic cycle, right? So much pressure on them, so much pressure on a Conway, Alex, Jack Willis, Hugo Milner like you probably saw the nerve of them crashing because of that extra pressure. Yeah. Everyone's thinking now for two years ahead. Yeah.
00;25;35;21 - 00;25;55;20
Speaker 3
They're not thinking realistically for this race. I mean they are. Yes. But they're thinking on the back of their mind. Their subconscious is I need to be good for two years time. That's when they need to be good. And that's about it. Like get there. And that's that's probably their main goal is get their fit and healthy for two years time.
00;25;55;20 - 00;26;17;04
Speaker 3
I think that I think that pressure weighs on people though. Like it's hard to not think about two years time. Yeah. Like people want to just qualify now. They want to get the point. I know there's no auto auto policies out now, and they probably won't be until the grand final this year maybe. Or there might be like a random nation that gives that.
00;26;17;05 - 00;26;37;14
Speaker 3
Yeah, if if not, it'll probably be more next year, at the test event as well. But yeah, like people just wanting to get points, they want to make it easy for themselves early on. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately it was disappointing for for what it could have been. Well, it could have been exactly right. I mean, when's the next one?
00;26;37;15 - 00;26;53;23
Speaker 3
I mean, where are we going to next? Keep running next week. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah. Soon. So it's actually probably going to be pretty similar. I know a lot of the boys aren't doing keyboard on though, so it's we're not going to see like this is a sprint the sprint. Yeah. Mixed team relay though okay. So first mTOR.
00;26;53;27 - 00;27;16;23
Speaker 3
Yeah I'm guessing that some of the nations are going to bleed in their young young pups. Yep, a bit more. But and and realistically like the mixed team relay the points don't matter until the grand final in Hamburg. What's not necessarily points is the position. Well yeah. You just need to win it. Yeah, exactly. And so yeah. So like the points you're going to see these random little races like other points.
00;27;16;27 - 00;27;33;04
Speaker 3
No there are points. Yeah. There's points to be like ranked world no. Well you still you still need to do win the World Series. You still need to do well in these because you want to be ranked in the top eight. You need to be ranked in the top eight. Yeah. So if you're a country that's, you know, borderline, you know, that sort of eighth, 10th you need to do you still need to do.
00;27;33;04 - 00;27;52;16
Speaker 3
Well, it's like all good and well to train up some of your younger guys. Yeah. But if you're losing valuable points in these early stages, there's not a lot of chances to really get them back. So like, yes, you want to be training up some younger guys to potentially have them race in Hamburg or whatnot. But yeah, you don't wanna be wasting points here.
00;27;52;19 - 00;28;12;12
Speaker 3
Yes, like a mixed team really is just the easiest way to qualify a minimum of two people. Well, exactly right. That's two men to win. The first round of qualification goes to the mixed team relay world champ. Exactly. Big to have two Portuguese on the podium. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. I think everybody on the podium was Portuguese speaking.
00;28;12;13 - 00;28;34;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's a little fun fact. Yeah. Little seeing the little national anthem together, I don't know, it's still different. National. Yeah, I know that. But that understand it, wouldn't they? Jesus Christ, so that was kind of our take on our I mean, a lot happened. We're a little bit late. So yeah, I think we've missed the hype around it, which is a bit annoying.
00;28;34;28 - 00;28;47;09
Speaker 3
But we were we were big on it. Yeah, we were hyped about it. Do you think they should. Do you think there should be. I know this is kind of going back to the women's, but what?
00;28;47;12 - 00;29;01;13
Speaker 3
How do you think we better that situation like with the women. Like do we do we bring in enforced rules like do we have to bring in. Well, because that's more like ethic conduct. Yeah.
00;29;01;16 - 00;29;25;09
Speaker 3
See, because as much as I love it, I love it. Yeah I think I love it. But then if somebody throws me exactly right, I put myself in Lisa Turk's boots. Yeah. If someone throws something at me, I'm like, are you serious? However, it's boiled over because of so much stuff she has done. Yeah, there's two sides to the argument, but it's like, has has she actually done anything wrong?
00;29;25;10 - 00;29;44;20
Speaker 3
Like, so like, I'm sure we know plenty of guys that just sit on the back of a pack. Plenty of guys that are pretty rough in a swim. Yeah, I mean, that's not illegal. The bike riding part, but yeah, definitely the swim conduct. Yeah. But I think so. We know I'm sure we know a lot of guys that do that.
00;29;44;22 - 00;30;00;20
Speaker 3
Yeah. You're a grub says you. You're too scared. You don't want to touch anyone in the world. Oh, I got touch and fan and anyway. Oh. Okay.
00;30;00;22 - 00;30;34;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, I don't, I don't know, I feel as if you can't really you can't really do anything to Lisa, although, like, there's animosity between the group of girls. That's not anything where World Triathlon can step in. That's just personal opinions. It's like people just don't like people, and that's natural. It's like cats and dogs. Yeah, but I think, like, you could have, like Paul Jean the hair in for a bloody BS kind of, code of conduct.
00;30;34;01 - 00;30;54;03
Speaker 3
Elite athlete meeting with world. Try like you could do that. I don't think it's going to do anything though. Like it's all just a bit of I. Yeah. We've done something about this, like that's all just the box. Yeah. Political ticker box. Like. Yep. We're doing something for the sport. We don't want disrepute. And that's about it, I don't think.
00;30;54;05 - 00;31;14;15
Speaker 3
See, I actually agree that she didn't get a penalty. Oh, jeez. I think I think it's fine that she didn't get a penalty. But then maybe like some purists would go, nah, I think she should get a penalty. Like that's, that's out of the conduct of the sport. There might be a rule that's like, anti conduct of the sport and you might actually see coming into maybe like race briefings.
00;31;14;15 - 00;31;33;13
Speaker 3
Now it might be a new rule like this could flip something. And it's like no no throwing projectiles at athletes. There is there. There might be like a ruler. We can't throw a blade bid on it. So and I can you well know there's a there's I swear there's conduct rules in all swim, bike and run legs. Yes.
00;31;33;13 - 00;31;59;14
Speaker 3
There I think that's physical contact. Yeah. So maybe it's like if you are impeding the process the, the progress of another athlete. Yeah. Like if you're like running in front of them and then just completely stop. It would be even like chuck a shoulder or something like impeding the progress of another athlete. But I guess, like if you're behind throwing a bottle of their head, you could argue that that is I mean, you could I honestly, you could definitely argue that that's impeding the process of the progress.
00;31;59;14 - 00;32;22;10
Speaker 3
But yeah, I think it'll be just a tit for tat little things. Now between that kind of group, it'll be and we'll be watching the Lisa versus Lisa versus the women of world. And I think she may not have like protested or anything like that, because I reckon she has that little bit of mongrel in her to be like, oh, you know what?
00;32;22;12 - 00;32;39;28
Speaker 3
I kind of like this. Yeah, yeah. And she'll go back at them, she'll do something grubby and I think it'll boil over. I hope it does. We're just going to see fist flying in the finish line. Be great to see. Yeah. But yeah I don't know how you meant to control that. No I don't think. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's not good.
00;32;39;28 - 00;33;02;02
Speaker 3
Kids don't throw bottles at your competitors if they're overtaking you. But because you you would definitely expect like, like you said, some purist being like, how would you expect the younger generations to look at that and pull that? Oh, fucking. I'm sure they loved it just as much. They also froth it. Who cares? But little Suzanne isn't going to throw a bloody bottle at the back of, you know, Lucy's head tomorrow.
00;33;02;08 - 00;33;31;22
Speaker 3
Starting to roll. Ribena cuts like surely not. No. It's all good and well, we love it. Moving on. Racing this weekend. World Cup Mexico. It's hot. Not one of my favorite races to watch, if I'm being honest. Yeah. No. Historically very boring. Yeah, it's. It's a run race. Slow swim, slow bike run really fast. That's it. South American field.
00;33;31;23 - 00;33;57;10
Speaker 3
A lot of lot of Mexicans that I have no idea. And they usually go win it. Mexicans, Brazilians, American field, American, South Americans. They're all there. Yeah. Couple Aussies, couple overseas. One to note. Jordan Rick making his World Cup debut. Yeah, yeah. So really good race in Osaka. He had a cracker. Yeah, yeah. Second place. And honestly, I thought he was going to go toe to toe with Dylan McCulloch all the way.
00;33;57;12 - 00;34;18;02
Speaker 3
Yeah. Dylan was obviously just too strong in the end, but. Yeah. Killer race from Georgia. Yeah. So he deserves that one. Yeah. Sprint distance. Yeah. It's pretty flat. The beach swim, is it not? It is a beach swim. So they they even get to run in. It's a bit of a gross beach to. Know. Yeah. No I think it was last year.
00;34;18;06 - 00;34;36;04
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. That was a hurricane. Yeah. And actually whipped up a fair bit of swell. Yeah, I remember watching it was like a dump. And even like, the roads the next day were like, crap. It was like stuff all over the roads because you had, so give right off the front solo. You had a breakaway then?
00;34;36;04 - 00;34;54;04
Speaker 3
Just one. Yeah, yeah. You did the Israeli in, Where's he been this year? No idea. I was actually just thinking that maybe he got called up. Yeah. Oh, that would be fucked. Poor bastard. Where is he?
00;34;54;06 - 00;35;17;05
Speaker 3
But he has been missing this year. I haven't seen him at all. Yeah. Let's not anyway. Moving on. Yeah. Run! Race. I mean, not much to say, really. I've looking at your picture. You've obviously completely ChatGPT. Well, I did, I did because they're not actually Vasco. After winning, we got Miguel Hidalgo. They're definitely not in the in this race.
00;35;17;07 - 00;35;41;21
Speaker 3
I'll tell you my actual piece. Do you want them? Yeah, yeah, it's meant to be hot and humid as well, so that could play factor okay I'm taking ranked number one column is yeah. Hard to go past. Hard to go past I'm going number two Canadian double podium Mathis bill he's actually pretty good. And then number three he's actually pretty good.
00;35;41;22 - 00;36;06;21
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yes. Yeah he is I'm pretty sure the junior Olympic medalist. Junior world championship medalist. Yeah yeah yeah. He's very good. He's very good. He trains with the Americans though. Yeah. And then I'm going to pick an American next race. Venison. Oh, I see, I see, but I think that this just like what will Reese venison will go well in like Chengdu run race.
00;36;06;21 - 00;36;25;14
Speaker 3
I don't think you did too well in Chengdu in the run race, I just. Is he coming back to early from that broken I think collarbone or shoulder that he had maybe back in the not way high. It's but it's a it's an interesting field. Not a lot of there's not a lot of big names. This is this is.
00;36;25;18 - 00;36;50;02
Speaker 3
No it's it's very American. I think the travel really causes the Europeans and unfortunately the Aussies. I know, I know, a few of our Aussie boys have gone over early and they've been from Japan to America. Yeah. I, I think that the travel is really tough. I've never been to America, so I wouldn't know, but I just think 30 hours of travel, regardless of where you're going.
00;36;50;03 - 00;37;13;08
Speaker 3
Yeah, it's just a bit long. Yeah. Who was your third one? Race. Race. I've not put race in. I've actually gone for now that you've just said the travel is really tough. I've actually gone for a Frenchman. Aurelian gem. I know he's a rapid runner. Okay, there's a rapid runner. I think he's done pretty good in World Cups.
00;37;13;10 - 00;37;35;14
Speaker 3
Maybe some, like, top tens. 1438, in Lanzarote. Yeah, he's he's a rapid runner. I've got him to win. I think this is going to be his breakthrough. Oh, I see, I think you need to be running a bit quicker than 1430. Yeah, I think he. I think he will cause his day. This is his day, I reckon.
00;37;35;14 - 00;37;58;16
Speaker 3
And then I've got Matisse, Buhl, the Canadian. Yep. And then I've got Tyler, Mr. Chuck in third. Okay. I think that's going to be the podium, not 100% sold on the order. Okay. But that is that I'm just going to go put it out there. That's that's my that's my one, two, three women women going to be completely honest.
00;37;58;23 - 00;38;18;23
Speaker 3
Don't know a lot of the women on the start list. No, I don't really I, I hate that we're a short course specialist. Pod don't know a lot of the women. I think it's tough because we base so much of our racing on Europe. Yeah. And we obviously live in Oceania. So that's our bread and butter. America's been on.
00;38;18;23 - 00;38;44;12
Speaker 3
No, it is tough. I have picked a couple of Americans though. Okay. Who have you gone? No, sorry. First one I've gone I've gone. The the four named queen Rosa Maria Vidal. Yep. Cool. I say that right. I think so. Cool. Not very versed in my Spanish, but yeah, that's number one. And then I got two Americans, Naomi Rough and Kelly Wetteland.
00;38;44;14 - 00;39;06;00
Speaker 3
Okay, I don't know why I just put an accent on wetland, but. Wetland. Yeah, cool. I know that those two girls have both raised, some WTS races. Yeah, because I remember seeing their names when I put together the, the results list. So, I think they're going to come back with a bit of World Series, World Series practice, and they're going to do well at a World Cup.
00;39;06;00 - 00;39;29;28
Speaker 3
So I've also got the Mexican number one. Yeah. Rosa Maria Tipo Vidal. She's she's actually very good. I've said that twice. Yeah, I know I was also going to go. I was also going to go Naomi rough. I feel as if I can't. Yeah. Now that I've done it. But she's actually quite consistent as well. And then I'm going to go random Erica Haugland.
00;39;29;28 - 00;40;04;09
Speaker 3
She's actually really good to the Bermuda athlete. Oh yeah. And then I am going to go didn't really prep this one because we were country's a bit late. I'm going to go the number one rank. Maria Carolina Velazquez Soto I've gone for two quadruple names. So have fun with that. You've made my editing really hard. I should have really gone for CM Francesco two so far.
00;40;04;13 - 00;40;21;03
Speaker 3
I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. You know what I do? So whenever, whenever I have to put some of their names, I cut out the middle too. Oh dude. Yeah. So if you ever say if you ever see their names on the stylist, I've cut out the two middle names. I should have done three quadruple.
00;40;21;03 - 00;40;43;01
Speaker 3
That's just. That's just made it hard for you to pick. I know to say it anyway, that my picks. That's good. I yeah, well, watching the race will watch. Watch it regardless, but not expecting. We're not expecting too much from these unfortunately. You know you've got to have some dud races every now and then. Yeah. Yeah yeah I just think yeah.
00;40;43;02 - 00;41;05;04
Speaker 3
The draw card of going to Mexico at this time of year isn't too appealing for love athletes, especially in Europe. I mean, that's just probably the facts. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of these athletes will probably be heading to Europe after. Yeah, 100% after this race is stepping stone. Yeah. And I mean, this is probably like the pool that you're going to see running like these.
00;41;05;06 - 00;41;27;09
Speaker 3
It's going to be rapid. Yeah. They're going to see some fast run times. Yeah I would love to see it go completely the other way we did last year. We survive in a breakaway. Yeah I think it could. Like we obviously know the men's side a bit better. Like there's Tyler who's very good. You've got you keep saying these guys are very very they're all very good.
00;41;27;10 - 00;41;56;06
Speaker 3
Fuck. Okay. You then have the Japanese athlete Abu used Matt to Jordan. Jordan. He's also very good team. Really? Well. Peter Steiner. Yeah. Good swimmer. I think Jane Schofield could be up there. Nicholas Keller, big dog. Yep. It would be hard to be on that ballpark. Yeah, I think I think it would. Definitely. Everyone's playing in his ballpark here.
00;41;56;09 - 00;42;13;01
Speaker 3
If, you know, you know, I think, like. Yeah, like a course, you know, Toby, like, if, if they can have a really good swim, they could be there. Realistically, it's going to be a run race. Yeah, I think I think so, and I don't really know many others to be honest on there. Well we'll we'll wrap it up next week.
00;42;13;01 - 00;42;33;24
Speaker 3
We'll, we'll give you our, we'll give you the rundown next week. But that's a tool. Go. We'll be what will be. We'll be wrapping up our recapping huddle go next week, but we'll also be previewing Key Run, which is a really exciting one. So, over in Europe for the first World Series of the year. Oh, we've had one already over there.
00;42;33;27 - 00;42;56;16
Speaker 3
Oh shit. We just literally spoke about. Oh yeah, we did. We second of the year. But yeah, super exciting. Very good. Thanks for listening. That was episode 50, by the way. Yeah. Sorry for my. Oh yeah. This is little nod. Oh. Oh, God. All right. 50 and done. 50 had done for anybody who was on YouTube. You did not just see that.
00;42;56;17 - 00;43;06;22
Speaker 3
That's cut. So sorry I've done that. I've done that twice. I haven't yet. Oh okay. I think there's goodbye. But we're rusty.