Reeling It In

Jack Williams and Kyra Mabone kick off Reeling it In with a discussion on their personal film tastes and their thoughts on Oscar betting and nominations.

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Film reviews that are real, introspective and fun!

Kyra:

Everyone, I'm Shakyra Mabone.

Jack:

I'm Jack Williams.

Kyra:

And welcome to look Reeling It In, a podcast where we take a moment to reel in the best and worst film while keeping our commentary a 100% real.

Jack:

So grab your popcorn, and let's reel it in.

Kyra:

Hi, everyone. You may know me as Shakira from the award winning podcast, Allstate of Chocolate. I am just here today because me and Jack decided to, like, start a new film podcast because we don't really do, like, film reviews in our paper. So we were just, like, well, it would be cool to, like, start a podcast and just talk about films and how we think about it and things like that. So, yeah, what do you what's your taste in films or movies?

Jack:

I I'm really into I'm into everything. There's nothing, I I I think I won't watch. And, I I think I I tend for me at least, I tend to go through phases. Like, there was a phase over the summer I had where I, I just watched I I called them boy movies Yeah. Because it consisted of like, I watched the entirety of the Terminator franchise.

Jack:

Oh. I watched it like the Hellboy or I watched the Hellboy movies and, like, all these other things, but, like, I'll I'll go through those phases. But right now, I I don't really know. Right now, I've just been, like, everywhere.

Kyra:

Yeah. It's same for me. But my top genre of a movie is has to be thrillers. Like, I love thrillers.

Jack:

You know,

Kyra:

I have not seen John Wick. Wait. I lied. I have seen John Wick. I've seen the first one, but I don't know.

Kyra:

I don't really like that movie. It's I don't know. It just couldn't really get me going, to be honest. Like

Jack:

What was it? Like, the violence or Yeah.

Kyra:

I don't know. It was just kinda too slow, honestly. But yeah, other thrillers I'm like, I like comedy, a good rom com here and there, you know, when I'm not in my feelings.

Jack:

I love rom coms.

Kyra:

Yeah. What's your favorite?

Jack:

I I have been on, like, a rom com kick, actually. So I got gotten to

Kyra:

I feel like everybody has lately. Yeah.

Jack:

It was in like, the last month or so.

Kyra:

Right around the corner. Mhmm. Yeah.

Jack:

But I got into, or I watched Serendipity, if you've seen that one. Mhmm. With Not a problem. It has John Cusack, and I forgot the other actress. But, basically, like, they meet, and they kinda decide that they're not actually or that the she she kinda talks about, fate and all these other things.

Jack:

And she's, like, okay. Well, if we're meant to be together, then the world will kinda bring us together. And they they sort of have this moment where they they each go into an elevator, and it's like if we click the same floors, then we're gonna be together.

Kyra:

Yeah. That sounds cheesy. And they they do

Jack:

they do click the same store, like, story of the building, but then, like, a kid comes into John Cusack's elevator and it kind of messes it up. So they they they don't end up meeting. The whole movie is just them kind of, like, almost meeting, and then, like, eventually at the end, there's obviously that moment where they finally meet. But, yeah, I I just love it's it's so, like, cute and and just, like, charming, and I I don't I feel like we don't get enough of those movies often anymore, and it was a very distinct period. I felt like, in, like, the early 2000 Mhmm.

Jack:

Where we got these, like, very charming rom com movies. Like, that 13 Going on 30, if you've ever seen that one. Yeah. That's a good one. Love Actually, I don't know when that came out.

Jack:

I think it was part of that sort of era.

Kyra:

I think Love Actually. Didn't that come out, like, in 20 let me actually, let me just do my research.

Jack:

Yeah. Because that's, like, that's kinda top top notch, I felt like, for I mean

Kyra:

2003.

Jack:

People say people say it's top notch for me, personally. I don't know. It it wasn't my favorite rom com. I I kinda I get the whole I get the hype surrounding it, you know, it's you got Liam Neeson, you know, all all those, like, big actors and actresses at the time, but yeah. I don't it didn't it didn't do it as much for me, I think, as I as I hoped it to, but it was still, like, a very solid rom com and very, very definitive of that era.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah. So I know you told me, like, a little bit more about, like, your taste in film. Mhmm. More specifically, like, war movies. Can you talk more about that?

Jack:

War movies?

Kyra:

Yeah. Like

Jack:

Yeah. I just, the war movie it was more anti war movies because I remember well, first, I I had watched this video essay back when I did that in high school, but, you know, I don't do that much anymore. But, I had watched this video essay about, this guy kinda talking about how there's no such thing as a a real anti war movie. And he used this quote from I believe it was Gene Siskel Siskel. He was kinda, like, on the same par as, like, Roger Ebert.

Jack:

They were both I think they were friends, and they kinda, like, you know, he was very big in, like, the film review and sort of literary film as literature community. Mhmm. But he had this sort of notion. I think he was talking to Francois Truffaut, and they were kinda talking about how, the true anti war film does not exist because film kinda relies on spectacle. You have to you have to have a hero to believe in Right.

Jack:

And there has to be some kind of thing for the audience to, like, find exciting in a film. And that just goes against the notion of an anti war film because, you know, the the ideally, an anti war film is saying war isn't exciting. There's nothing there's no spectacle about war. Right. So when you combine this medium, which is sort of almost all about spectacle Mhmm.

Jack:

With some with a sentiment that's, like, anti spectacle, it doesn't work. And so this was in high school, actually. I did a project in this film class, kinda looking at all these films. And I I really did get the point. Like, if we look at, like, Saving Private Ryan, for example, I feel like a lot of people are, like, yeah, this kinda portrays the horrors of war.

Jack:

Like, this is just, like, shows that, like, war is awful. But then if you really look at it, you know, there's there's characters to believe in. You know, there's there's there's a there's heroes. There's heroic scenes where, like, there's sacrifice and

Kyra:

all that. Right. Right. It's, like, basically, you get the audience to emphasize with, like, the characters. Is that what you're saying?

Jack:

Yeah. Exactly. And it's you know, then that goes against the site, like, anti war notion. Mhmm. And I and I think what a lot of people tend to think of is that opening scene, if if you've ever seen it, where it's, you know, d day and it's bloody, and everyone, like, everyone's just dying left and right.

Jack:

And, I think people tend to point to that, but then they forget about, like, the latter half of the film, which is just, like, it's it kinda goes into, like, a typical war movie, especially that scene at the with the bridge at the end where they're, like, alright. We're just gonna, like, defend this. And, I think people also tend to forget that the opening and closing shots of that film feature just a waving American flag.

Kyra:

Right.

Jack:

And it's, like, okay. Well, is that really what are we saying about war? What are we saying about patriotism?

Kyra:

You know?

Jack:

But aside from aside from that, I think I never really reached a definitive conclusion about, like, this is anti war or this isn't. I think because a lot of films do feature, like, a hero to some extent. But I think one of them that really kinda went against that notion was The Thin Red Line. If you it was a a film directed by Terrence Malick where, there really isn't a main character.

Kyra:

I really like Terrence Malick's.

Jack:

It has a lot. It has, I think Adrian Brody's in it. Forgot who I think John Travolta's in it too.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah.

Jack:

But Terrence Malick, I think what he does in his films, kinda works for that kind of genre, for the anti war, genre, if you wanna call it Mhmm. In the sense that he films his he makes his films in a way where he can totally mismatch, different different aspects of the film. And, like, the the final the final cut the final copy of the film may be completely different from what the original script was. Like, I believe I think it was maybe Adrien Brody's character in that film. He was written as, like, the main character.

Jack:

And then when they saw the or the story goes or the story as as I read it sort of goes that when they showed up at the premiere, he was kinda sidelined. Like, he wasn't the main character anymore. So I feel like the way when it's written in that way, it does kinda work a little bit because it's, like, okay, you're you're kinda showing this notion that there are no heroes in war. There's no main characters in war.

Kyra:

It just everybody's just there.

Jack:

Mhmm. Yeah.

Kyra:

Yeah. See, and that's why, like, I really love film because I don't know. It's just like and it's formiscastism for me. Like, growing up I grew up with my grandma, so I watched, like, mainly, like, older movies, like, from the fifties to the seventies, eighties, and stuff like that. And, yeah, I just really just got into film.

Kyra:

And so when did you, like, first got into film?

Jack:

I I don't so my brother was actually the first one to get into film. I can

Kyra:

see that.

Jack:

Yeah. No. If you know Matt, he's very, and he he started watching all these movies, and, I think the one movie he kept talking about was Blade Runner. He would talk about Blade Runner all the time because he really liked Blade Runner.

Kyra:

Mhmm.

Jack:

And I think it was maybe in middle school or yeah. I'd I'd say middle school is when he was like, we need to watch Blade Runner. And, you know, me being in middle school, I was like, I don't wanna. It's boring. Yeah.

Jack:

I'm a boring movie. And he actually

Kyra:

What way? Yeah. Exactly.

Jack:

And he showed me, he showed me the second one, 2049, which, you know, you don't really have to watch them in order, the Blade Runner movies. But I think it was that was sort of my introduction into film. And then, of course, you know, I kinda got into, like, the Interstellar and, you know, all the other, I guess, basic film Filmbro movies.

Kyra:

Yeah. I got Listen. I'm a basic girlie. I mean, I watch any indie films every now and then, but I'm so basic. I like mainly watch Blockbuster, so it's cool.

Jack:

Yeah. And that notion of basic is really interesting or how we define sort of, like, basic and

Kyra:

Yeah. You know?

Jack:

Like, what do you consider what do you consider basic?

Kyra:

Basic? I mean, like, film franchises, for example, like Fast and the Furious and, like, Harry Potter or, like, Shrek. I mean, to me, that's basic. For me, if you can't find a film that's, like, nobody knows about, like, that's not basic. That's just, like, out of the box, you know.

Kyra:

That's why I said, like, I really like indie films because

Jack:

Mhmm.

Kyra:

You could really mention, like, a movie for, like I don't know if you have ever you ever seen it. It's called The Watermelon Woman by Sheryl Jones. No. Exactly. So exactly.

Kyra:

So it's just, like, that's how I identify, like, with the basics from the out of the ordinary, I guess.

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah. I and I feel like we sort of tend or people tend to get into this headspace that because a film is considered basic or it's a blockbuster, that it inherently has less value, you know, or we can't talk about it in certain regards. Mhmm. I I see it with film.

Jack:

I see it with literature. More so with literature, you know, the idea that, something like, say, like a You novel, like The Hunger Games is somehow subject to less criticism than, Dostoevsky or, you know, something like that. But really, it's not, you know, because every every piece of literature, whether it be film, a a novel, poetry, it is I think it's all subject to the same amount of criticism. And just because, like, someone just because it's more mainstream or more accessible doesn't mean that it's

Kyra:

If we can't Yeah.

Jack:

I just Talk as deeply. Yeah.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah. So what's your top four movies?

Jack:

Top 4. So I do have a letterbox, so it does make it really easy for me.

Kyra:

Okay. Right after this episode, I promise I wanna make a letterbox. I'm sorry.

Jack:

Letterbox is I feel like it's really taken taken hold in recent years. Or maybe just for me because I've, like, just recently not recently got it. I've had it for a few years, but I feel like people have talked about it a lot more lately. I don't know when the app was created, but

Kyra:

I feel like everybody, like, we really have it now. Mhmm. I feel left out because

Jack:

Even people who, like, aren't super into film, I

Kyra:

have to have so, like,

Jack:

I've noticed, like, people who, like, I I yeah. Like, aren't really, like, considered, like, cinephiles or whatever have, like, started getting into Letterbox. And I Yeah. I love it because, you know, it's it's great. I think everyone Yeah.

Jack:

Everyone should be able to talk about movie or everyone should want to talk about movies and stuff like that.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah.

Jack:

For me, on on my Letterbox, top 4, Mishima by Paul Schrader. Mhmm. Great movie. It's about a writer a Japanese a Japanese writer named Yukio Mishima. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that fully correctly, but Yeah.

Jack:

He was this very, interesting figure. He developed kinda, like, this personality, and then he he wrote a lot of books relating to, like, life, death, sex, how all these things kinda relate in relation to the human condition. And then at the end of his life, he, this post World War 2, he had decided that he wanted to bring back sort of the the emperor in Japan in that system. And he went to a military base and tried to, like, rally a bunch of troops to join his cause. And when they kinda mocked him and didn't wanna join his cause, he, he he committed suicide.

Jack:

So the movie is, told through 4 of 4 of his novels and, like, stories that he had written, while also kinda following him on the last day of his life. And it's it's written and directed by Paul Schrader, so it's a very who I think is kinda perfect for that. Yeah. Schrader does a lot of, character studies. That's kinda what he's best at.

Jack:

Oh, yeah. Taxi driver. His recent film, O Canada, which I saw at TIFF, Amazing.

Kyra:

Okay. Nice.

Jack:

How about you? What's your

Kyra:

So, now my my number one is, a Wes Anderson film, Fantastic Mr. Fox. I'm sorry. I I love animation. Like, I'm such a big kid.

Kyra:

My second is primary, it's by Babak Nah Nahfahari. I think that's my bad from Stop Butchering Your Name, bro, bro. 3rd, it has to be a Chris Columbus film, Mrs. Sapphire, you know.

Jack:

Yep. Classic. Love that.

Kyra:

Love Robin Williams, RFP. You know I cried when that man died?

Jack:

I remember that.

Kyra:

Yeah. I literally cried. Like That's that was such a sad day for me. Like, no. It was He was a good guy.

Jack:

Not a funny.

Kyra:

Not 4th. I'm gonna have a 4th. These are my top 3.

Jack:

There you go.

Kyra:

I cheated.

Jack:

On the note of film of making you cry, well, first of all, Mishima, I feel like always gets me. Yeah. It's not it's not necessarily a bad film or a sad so film. Sorry. But the ending is just, like, it's so beautiful.

Jack:

Oh, yeah. The way it's the way the whole scene is done, like, Schrader handle handles it with such delicacy. But, I feel like the next on my top 4, Beginners by Mike Mills, which I, I actually just rewatched, and of course, it made me cry again. And it

Kyra:

was funny this time You like The Jerkers. Yeah. I I do. I really do. I like yeah.

Jack:

And I I've watched every time I watch this, I cry. I watched it the other day, and I had to be at the zap zone in an hour. And I I was crying in this movie. I was like, I need to

Kyra:

No way.

Jack:

But that one's about, Ewan McGregor. Mhmm. You're probably familiar with.

Kyra:

Yeah.

Jack:

It's it follows him in two points of his life before his his dad passes away, whose his dad is played by Christopher Plummer and after his dad passes away. And the latter kinda shows his life. He meets this girl who, I'm blanking on her name, but she played I think it's Melanie Laurent. She played, Shosanna in Inglourious Basterds. But it sort of follows his life after his dad died, and he meets this girl, and he's trying to kinda, like, grapple with this multiple, like, aspects of his life.

Jack:

Like, his dad dying, his relationship with women. And then it shows before his dad died, his dad had came came out as a homosexual, at the age of, like, 80 or something. And he started living, like, this sort of, like, very, like, openly gay life, and he joined all these like, you would have thought he was, like, in his twenties. So it kinda, like, bounces back and forth between these, like, two parts of his life. And, you you know his dad's gonna die because, like, they they say it at the start.

Jack:

He's, like, this is what my dad was wearing when he told me, like, he had cancer. This is, like, where he was when he died. And then the ending, like, near the end, they show him pass away. Oh. And it is so, like, it still gets you.

Jack:

Like, even though, like, you know what's you know what's gonna happen, and it still gets me every time.

Kyra:

You know, I lied. My favorite, another, well, this is the last one. It's called the Revanade. Have you seen it before?

Jack:

Is that the the bear one?

Kyra:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jack:

I yep.

Kyra:

Yeah. I let that one listen. When I saw it the first time and he got what? Leonardo DiCaprio, he got attacked by that bear, I was like, yeah. There's no way.

Kyra:

I thought he was goner.

Jack:

I thought was crano. There's, like, scenes where they, like, where, like, the bear starts attacking them and they shoot it, like, twice and it just, like, tanks it.

Kyra:

Yeah. And I heard he was, like, literally just getting yanked all over, like, the, you know

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah.

Kyra:

Yeah. I was just, like, wow. That's I remember it.

Jack:

Was it I think it was at the Oscars when that film was, like, nominated. They had a they had a guy dressed up as a bear, I think, in the audience.

Kyra:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember that. They were

Jack:

like, oh, it's the bear from the movie. That's definitely a good one.

Kyra:

Speaking of the Oscars, are you excited? Where is it?

Jack:

I feel like with every passing year, the Oscars have just been increasingly more, like,

Kyra:

I don't know

Jack:

if I I don't even think I watched it last year.

Kyra:

Saved it. I'm sorry. With his stunt.

Jack:

Yeah. I think that was probably the last year I watched it, actually.

Kyra:

But Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Jack:

No. I mean, the obviously, Amelia Perez is is hot on the discussions. There's that scene going around Twitter, Instagram from from Amelia Perez with the with the song.

Kyra:

What's the song again? It's kinda

Jack:

nice to meet you. I

Kyra:

mean Oh.

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah. That one I then people are talking about how, like, bad it was, which I I I don't think it's the greatest movie, especially, like, I I don't think that scene alone kinda shows why it's not great. I think it's just it's a very, neoliberal perspective of, the Mexican experience Yeah. The trans experience.

Jack:

This is what I it's, like, stuff I've heard from my friend. And there it's just sad. Like, it got so many nominations, and there's other film. There's there is, I saw the TV glow. There was queer that both came out this year.

Jack:

And they were both phenomenal, sort of inter, discussions of what it means to be, like, non binary, trans, gay. And, you know, they kinda got snubbed. And it's it's kinda sad to see that, I think. It kinda shows that the academy is sort

Kyra:

of priority. It's just still how can I say this in the most respectful way? Close minded, I would say.

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's subscribing to a very, like,

Kyra:

I mean, I don't wanna sound like

Jack:

I don't know. But there there's an agenda there. There's a there's a neoliberal agenda Mhmm. And it's it's kind of falling in line with that, which is sad because there are films that are taking risks that are having, sort of more thoughtful discussions, about about those experiences. And it's sad to see them kinda just go unnoticed by

Kyra:

the Academy. Yeah. And I think that's why a lot of people tend to, like, stray away from the Academy Awards because, like, well, of course, speaking from, like, a black person, you have, like, all of these black actors such as Viola Davis and Mhmm. Angela Bassett, Yep. The work just did not get recognized.

Kyra:

Like, I personally feel like and I'm not even being biased, obviously, you know. Mhmm. I really legit feel like they dumped some great work. Like, they catalog is so long, like, it's just, like, so annoying, honestly.

Jack:

Yeah. I mean, there are, I think there were some some great nominations that were saying it's like Dune. Dune was great.

Kyra:

I was

Jack:

like, Wicked was amazing. We saw Wicked together.

Kyra:

I'm surprised. You know what? I'm surprised that's not on here. Challengers. Do you think it's a war of anything?

Jack:

And I think it was, yeah. A 100%. That I mean, because that came from the same direct director as queer. Yeah. It sucks to see him get Right.

Jack:

He's one of the great directors of our time. I I feel like he's kind of as, like, call me by your name, queer. I I he did bones and all. Right? Mhmm.

Jack:

He's kind of he's clearly establishing himself, and we're you know, we're the fact that, like, we're not sort of recognizing that Yeah. This year is kind of upsetting.

Kyra:

So nuts.

Jack:

Yeah. I mean

Kyra:

First of all, I didn't know people bet on the Oscars. Like I just found that out too. That's crazy.

Jack:

My friend texted me, and then they

Kyra:

I So how did that what did that look like? Like, what's the process?

Jack:

Do you know? I don't fully know. I I I mean, I just assume you put money on what films you think are gonna win or lose. I don't

Kyra:

know how those places just like

Jack:

I don't know how the return would look on that, but I I might try it out this year. I don't know. Mhmm.

Kyra:

Probably not. Probably not as crazy.

Jack:

It's a yeah. That's a very because, I mean, you always hear about sports betting and stuff. Yeah. But, I mean, I guess it's just as, like, you have just as much of a chance of winning money as you do, like

Kyra:

No. I did not watch, like, some of these films.

Jack:

Mhmm.

Kyra:

I heard about the substance. It sounds

Jack:

really good. The substance was really good.

Kyra:

It's good? Okay. Very, I think well, you know, my money's going towards Wicked. I'm sorry. Yep.

Jack:

I'm yeah. Wicked, I think, deserves and I really I I loved I I loved what Wicked did. Mhmm. I think that I I I see a lot of people talk about sort of the death of the movie musical Mhmm. Or the, you know, this idea that, like, we don't seem like we used to.

Jack:

But I feel like the fifties, sixties, and stuff like that.

Kyra:

Yeah.

Jack:

I think Wicked very much show that if you adapt a a musical from from the stage, you can you can do it in a way where it's it's different. I I think if you compare this to, like, Mean Girls. Mean Girls was just like a

Kyra:

Oh, yeah.

Jack:

Copy. Like, you just you just put Mean Girls on on a screen and, like or the Mean Girls musical on a screen and kind of call it

Kyra:

a day.

Jack:

Yeah. Not that, you know, it was it was a bad film by any means. I I think it was great. But Wicked, I think, it it takes the parts that you can't do on stage, that you would wanna see done differently in in a film. Right.

Jack:

And it did that. Yeah. Like, the flying scenes. The it it it

Kyra:

gave more time on certain scenes.

Jack:

Like, you and you can't you obviously can't do that in a musical because, you know, it's on certain scenes. Like, you and you can't you obviously can't do that in a musical because, you know, if it's it's gonna be too long, you know, you only have really one perspective. And obviously, the difference between film and, the stage is you can kinda force the audience to look in certain places. I think the director really did a good job at, like, doing that. And, I think we need to I hope he sets a precedent for, like, what we see from more from, movie musicals in the future.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah. You was a theater kid, weren't you?

Jack:

I was a theater kid. I I I I've never I didn't grow up, like, watching a lot of theater. Mhmm.

Kyra:

You know, me either. Mhmm. Not really. I really want to. Oh, I I mean, too.

Jack:

And we have such a great, like the the Wharton Center, it's such, like, a great thing that we have here.

Kyra:

Actually, we are gonna do that. We're gonna have a segment or not a segment, just an episode where we've seen the play, we come back, and we just talk about it. How about how does that

Jack:

We should I mean, the the Wharton Center, because they have the traveling, Broadway groups Mhmm. Which is, like, so we, like, we should be and we have the student tickets, which is, like, real cheap. Like, we should we really I need to be capitalizing on them. Oh, yeah. There was some good there was a I think Chicago's coming and, like, Les Mis was here.

Kyra:

Oh, wow. Chicago.

Jack:

Yeah. Exactly. Right? Like, we need to

Kyra:

all that.

Jack:

I need to be capitalizing on this.

Kyra:

Yes. And then MJ, I'm so sad about Michael Jackson. I heard about it.

Jack:

Yeah. What what what about it?

Kyra:

He's getting delayed because I guess now, it was some miscommunication about one of the you know, his past allegations and stuff like that, and, his estate didn't sign off, like, contracts saying that it can be talked about. Yeah. It's it's just such a mess. So, like, now it's getting delayed because it's it was supposed to come out, like, what, in April this year, but now it's getting delayed into, like, October. But now even that's gonna be delayed, and I'm, like, so irritated because it's just, like, come on out.

Jack:

I think we also I think we need a Michael Jackson movie just because of, like, the narrative that's been pushed about Michael Jackson.

Kyra:

Yeah. Like, we have some, like, we have the American dream, what, Jackson 5, and then I'm not gonna hold you up. Dream, what, Jackson 5, and then I'm not gonna hold you up. The Michael Jackson movie they tried to make was terrible. Mhmm.

Kyra:

It's terrible. It was low budget. Yeah. It was giving, no offense, Tubi movies. Now don't get me wrong.

Kyra:

I love Tubi. I love Tubi. Tubi's so funny. Yeah. But it just I just feel like this one is gonna hit so different because Mhmm.

Kyra:

You could just tell that, like, they just put a lot of thought and, you know, effort into this film and not trying to make MJ, like, you know, the bad person. Yeah.

Jack:

And so much of, like, what you hear about him nowadays is just, like, trying to, like, make him out to be a bad guy, which, you know Yeah. There's and there's a lot of stuff out there about how he actually wasn't. And, you know, it's Mhmm. I think there's a lot of con con people arguing about that.

Kyra:

Yeah. There's a

Jack:

lot of discourse about whether or not he was, like, a bad person. Yeah. I think we do need a film that kinda

Kyra:

Just focus on, like, his artistry, really.

Jack:

So Yeah. And also, I think the there I think there is value in showing that, like, hey. Like, he wasn't really given a childhood, and that did affect how he, you know, grew up and Mhmm. Sort of went about the rest of his career and stuff like that. But I would also be excited to see that.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just can't wait for this, you know, continue this podcast. Me too. I'm really excited.

Kyra:

I'm graduating this semester, so I'm just gonna, you know, have fun with this. I'm really glad to be here. Are you glad?

Jack:

I'm really excited. Yeah.

Kyra:

Okay. I'm stoked, man. Yeah. So, like, what movies do you what's on your watch list as of now? Do you know?

Jack:

Oh, wait. This is where Letterbox

Kyra:

One of them days.

Jack:

Comes in. Yep. I gotta

Kyra:

see it. Seen it.

Jack:

I was supposed to see it over the weekend, and then I just I it kinda slipped. Better Man, gotta see that. Obviously, The Brutalist, I still haven't seen that yet. Better Man, my friend saw it. She said it was amazing.

Jack:

People have been kind of not wanting to see it just because, obviously, Robbie Williams isn't very well known in the United States and stuff. Like, I mean, I didn't know he was when the movie came out, but it looks like a very creative way to tell a biopic. Other than that, I'm Still Here. I don't know if that I I was looking at it earlier. I don't know if that came out yet or if it's

Kyra:

I'm Still Here.

Jack:

Maybe I'm Still Here. Yeah. It's I forgot who's it was by the same I think the director also did Motorcycle Diaries. Oh. The biopic on Che Guevara.

Jack:

So I need to see that at some point. I just don't know how I'm gonna see it. And, yeah, I think I I had I had some more romcoms on my watch list

Kyra:

too. Yeah.

Jack:

The I I was seeing stuff, but then there was no, like

Kyra:

Like, where does There's

Jack:

no show times, and then I couldn't find it on streaming. It was just

Kyra:

Oh, wait. Yeah. It came on, like, 17th.

Jack:

Right. Yeah.

Kyra:

Yeah. But Oh, that's not true. And it's a nomination too for best pitcher.

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah. It's like because I was like, I saw a tray I went to see, The Count of Monte Cristo, which, by the way, it's, like, 3 hours, but amazing.

Kyra:

It's worked out great.

Jack:

It's in French too, but it's amazing. Like, I'm telling.

Kyra:

Films. Oh my gosh.

Jack:

It's one of those movies where you watch it, and you just kinda, like, forget you're watching a movie that's 3 hours and also in French. Like, loved it. And, actually, it came out when I was in France. I just I just didn't go see it because my French isn't that good. Mhmm.

Jack:

So I wanted to come out with the subtitles and everything. But Yeah. No. I saw it in AMC. Great, great movie.

Kyra:

I can't wait for it 28 years later.

Jack:

That I need to go back and watch the first two before I see that. But, yeah, I'm excited to get talking about stuff.

Kyra:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well It's gonna be a good time. Said. This is really new podcast where we just talk about, like, film, all that jazz.

Kyra:

And yeah. Yeah. Have a good one.