Cheers to Oktoberfest and Strong Women

Join us as we return from our summer break with Episode 216 of the DC Beer Show! We're live from Casa de Brandy, diving into the world of craft beer with a special focus on Oktoberfest and the inspiring women in the brewing community.

Highlights:

Beer Tasting: Jake, Brandy, and the team share their current favorites, including a double dry hop pilsner and a Vienna lager. 

Spotlight on Women: Celebrating gender equity in brewing, with a shoutout to Jasmine Dill of Liquid Intrusion and her ongoing health journey. 

Upcoming Events: Get ready for a packed September with Oktoberfest celebrations, MegaFest, and the DC Rape Crisis Center fundraiser. 

Special Guests: Lauren Carey from Women's Brew Culture Club joins us to discuss the Pink Boots Society's relaunch. 

Sneak Peek: A preview of our next episode featuring Greg Engert, the mastermind behind Snallygaster.

Support Jasmine Dill by purchasing a "Genetically Unapologetic" shirt through our social media links. Join us at upcoming events and stay tuned for more exciting episodes!

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Creators and Guests

Host

Brandy Holder

This southern girl got a late start in the beer world, but with such a bold and intoxicating personality behind the name, booze was destined to be a part of her endeavors.

Host

Jacob Berg

Jake’s beer education began when his dad brought home a 6-pack of Brooklyn Lager in the mid-90s. It was love at first sip.

Host

Jordan Harvey

As a born and raised Georgian, lover of music, and HBCU advocate, Jordan’s affinity for craft beer kicked off after being exposed to the craft beer scene in Pennsylvania and the legendary beer scene in Europe.

Host

Mike Stein

Michael Stein is President of Lost Lagers, Washington, DC’s premier beverage research firm. His historic beers have been served at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History and the Polish Ambassador’s residence.

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Richard Fawal

President of DC Beer Media LLC and Publisher of DCBeer.com and The DC Beer Show

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Jacob Berg [00:00:06]:
Welcome, everyone. We are DC beer, and it's the DC beer show back from us on our vacation. Like stein. What's in your stein?

Michael Stein [00:00:18]:
Well, first of all, welcome to show number two sixteen, Jake. We made it. I am having a, through all eternity, a lost generation check pale lager with zaatops. It's wonderful. It's so delightful. We're here in person. In the flesh, we're live at Casa De Brandy. Seated to my left is Jordan. Jordan, what's in your glass this evening?

Jordan Harvey [00:00:44]:
Well, hello, everyone. We've missed you all. Hopefully, you guys have missed us as well. But, what's in my Yeti is something I don't think you're ready for. It's actually a double dry hopped pilsner, and, shout out to Dynasty and the whole, Virginia beer scene. But I also have a day without sirens. Third Hill Brewing Company, Helleslawyer got that queued up, because if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. But Brandy, what is in your handy?

Brandy Holder [00:01:09]:
Right now, my phone's in my hand because I'm taking a video. But I am so excited, a, to be here because papa beer is here. This is our first podcast that we have, done in a while now, so I'm super jazzed. What has been in my beer? Stein got here early. So we had we had a common no. We what do we have? Oh my gosh. I forgot.

Michael Stein [00:01:33]:
We we did not have a

Brandy Holder [00:01:34]:
Burial. We had Burial, the Vienna Lager. We had, we had a beautiful side project, pride project grisette, which was lovely. And then I am about to crack open this Kushwa West Coast style double IPA, which might be a little rough, but I'm jazzed about it. Oh, I was gonna ask you what you're drinking, but you're not on the podcast tonight.

Michael Stein [00:01:57]:
Richard is drinking.

Brandy Holder [00:01:59]:
Richard, what? Papa beer, birthday month boy. What are you drinking tonight?

Richard Fawal [00:02:04]:
Rules of civility. The whale's pale ale from dynasty and lost loggers.

Michael Stein [00:02:10]:
That's right. He's got a Scottish style pale ale. Whale's pale ale. Rules of civility,

Jacob Berg [00:02:16]:
99.

Brandy Holder [00:02:17]:
We oh, okay.

Michael Stein [00:02:20]:
Is it is it Welsh or Scottish? It's Scottish because the barley used the malt used in it is Scottish malt, and then the yeast strain is Scottish yeast. No Scottish hops, so English hops, but it tastes kinda dank.

Jacob Berg [00:02:37]:
But it's Wales because of Andrew Wales.

Michael Stein [00:02:43]:
Right. Right.

Jacob Berg [00:02:44]:
Brewer. One of the first brewers in the DMV way back when.

Brandy Holder [00:02:50]:
Damn. Scoops dropping the knowledge.

Michael Stein [00:02:53]:
True. That's facts.

Jordan Harvey [00:02:55]:
The the more you know. Thank you for our resident beer historian for keeping us well educated and, for for Brandy, for your hospitality and keeping us well hydrated.

Brandy Holder [00:03:03]:
Oh, man. The ingredients you have here. The the guys are you know, all the guys have been to my house before, and so I don't think anyone has been here without a lot of other humans here for a party. And everyone's like, oh my god, Brandy, you have so much alcohol in the house. And then I opened the shrank or the shrunk, German shrunk. If you guys know what it's talking about, then cool nerd people. So much alcohol, but mostly beer we drink. So we have a special audience guest tonight. And I'm gonna shout her out because we love Lauren. Lauren Carey, women's brew culture club, pink boots. Hi, Lauren. Just say hi real quick.

Jacob Berg [00:03:43]:
Hey, everybody.

Brandy Holder [00:03:46]:
Lauren, what are you drinking?

Jacob Berg [00:03:49]:
I honestly don't know what I'm drinking. I got it.

Brandy Holder [00:03:51]:
It was delicious. I'm sure. Okay. Thanks, Lauren. I love you. Richard's gonna get mad at us, so let's get back on podcast.

Michael Stein [00:03:57]:
Con brand. We're super pumped for the women's root culture club. I have to say, we are now in episode two sixteen. This is, I believe our dozen, the twelfth episode of 2025, and we're starting out this show the way we started 2025 out, which is a pod with the five of us. Your DC Beer Ownership Team here, and and I actually did the math. You know, out of the 12 shows this is show 12, so Snally out of the 11 shows, we've had a strong woman as our guest of honor on six out of the 11 shows. You know, we've had Anne from Lost Generation. We've had, Emily Emily Brown. We've had, Tasha from Ardent. We've had, a wonderful gender equity in our guests, and I just wanted to share that. You know, being the son of a sociologist, I had to go to the mat and say, we've had 11 episodes. Six strong women on on six out of 11. We are we are crushing it in terms of gender equity. But moving along into things we're excited about, what are we looking forward to as we get into this very, very busy September?

Brandy Holder [00:05:11]:
Well, while while we're on the topic of strong women, before we get into our, events and what we're we're what we're excited about, I want to talk about Jasmine Dill. She is the cofounder slash co owner of Liquid Intrusion. And for those of you who have been following Liquid Intrusion's story, their social media, their platform, you know that Jasmine has been going through a lot of health concerns. She has been recently diagnosed with, a disease that causes tumors throughout her body, and she just recently had, brain tumor removal surgery, and it was a lot. And, they have a huge support, lot of family, lot of friends, everyone supporting them. But I wanted to send all of our love to Jasmine. We all love you. And if you'd like to show your support for Jasmine and liquid intrusion, please go to our, Instagram or social media and find the bonfire fundraiser page. Link should be in our bio. And we are we are raising funds for, Jasmine's hospital visits and her surgeries because I can't imagine how expensive those are. So you're gonna get a shirt. So buy go buy a shirt. It says genetically unapologetic, which is an homage to the their beer that they brewed specifically for this. They dropped at, they dropped at, barrel flow. Thank you. And, so go support. It might say the campaign is has ended, but buy another shirt. There's endless campaigns. So, do it for Jasmine. Hashtag do it for Jasmine. If you have any questions, reach out to us, and we can steer you in the right direction. So what are we excited about?

Jordan Harvey [00:07:02]:
May the liquid always prevail. Definitely, thoughts and prayers and, cheers to Jasmine and and Drew and the whole liquid intrusion family. So shout out to them. But in terms of things I'm excited about, I would say I mean, the weather is starting to break a bit, folks. You know, it's, it's no longer 90 and humid. It's starting to get kinda 70 and cool. Therefore, Oktoberfest is around the corner. So I'm excited for all the Marzins and, the Oktoberfest beers that'll be dropping. The Fest beers that'll be dropping throughout the month of September, at your local brewery. So drink local. I'm sure everyone will have an offering, so definitely support your local breweries. And I think there are a number of events on the horizon for you to attend. And, maybe, Mike and and and Jake have some of those they've been looking forward to.

Michael Stein [00:07:45]:
Yeah. We're we're gonna see a ton of events coming down the pike. Saturday, MegaFest at the Anthem. The Sunday after that, October ForestFest, way down south of us in Powhatan, Virginia. That's Josh Chapman, Upweller Beer Company's Festival, and that's just to start September off. At the end of the month, I'm skipping ahead. We're gonna see the Bear branch, Maryland's Craft Maltster have a tap takeover at Max's Tap House on September 30, and I just talked to Jeff Hancock at Franklin's. He's got a 100% Vienna malt, Vienna lager coming out of the tanks. That's a 100% Bear Branch

Jacob Berg [00:08:28]:
Vienna malt. Speaking of malt, Mike, what is happening in September around malt?

Michael Stein [00:08:37]:
I'm so glad you asked, Jake. September is craft malt month. You know, it started as a day, then it was a week, and now we're in the second annual craft malt month of the twenty first century. So Bear Branch has really been, cranking out, you know, the barley, turning it into malt, and there's gonna be, I think, 16, drafts at Max's Taphouse at the end of the month. So we are DC beer. We're not Baltimore beer. But it's important to know that that those in the DC Metro, both Franklin's and Streetcar eighty two are gonna have beers on tap at Max's at the end of the month.

Brandy Holder [00:09:15]:
And it's actually Streetcar eighty two's anniversary on September 6, which is this Saturday, the same day as MegaFest. So I think you'll see maybe Scoop said MegaFest and me at street car. So, DC beer, we're always around. So if you if you see us, come up to us, and, we're probably drinking. So if we don't remember seeing you, don't be mad at us.

Jordan Harvey [00:09:38]:
No. No. Please don't. But, also, Brandy, is September is the top of the month? Any any plans for a Women Bruce Culture Club this month?

Brandy Holder [00:09:47]:
Yeah. So we we did have a big excursion planned, but we're going to have to postpone that, unfortunately, but we're we're looking forward to the the new date set. But for women's brew culture club this month, we are doing a fundraiser. And by we, I mean, DC beer, women's reculture club, and Wonder Garden in Noma. We're doing a fundraiser for the DC rape crisis center on September 28, and it's gonna be a big deal. It's not just gonna be a fundraiser. It's going to be an all out fucking party. There's gonna be a dunk tank. We're trying to get, like, the mayor to come out and get dunked. That would be amazing. Side note. And, we're gonna have, like, drag performances. I'm reaching out. So many local breweries have donated beer to the event. So it's gonna be basically a beer fest, but for an amazing cause. So come out, support survivors of sexual assault, and just continue raising awareness and support local breweries and humans. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:10:52]:
Well said. That is good beer for a good cause. We don't wanna sit here and discuss event after event. We'll just note that every brewery out there has an Oktoberfest. And as has been pointed out, the weather is absolutely freaking fantastic. It is great patio drinking weather. It's great porch drinking weather. It's great evening beer weather. And then after September, which is chock full load of events, we've got the Bruce Association of Maryland doing something, this wonderland, the first weekend in October, right by Sapwood Cellars. And the weekend after that is Snallygaster and the Great American Beer Festival yet again. So, the next six weeks or so, I think, are gonna be pretty, pretty busy around here. You'll see a lot of us out and about. But I wanna go with Stein real quick since it is we're getting into that Festbier mares in season.

Brandy Holder [00:11:48]:
Prepare your livers.

Richard Fawal [00:11:50]:
Yes. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:11:51]:
What have you had in those styles so far that's jumped out to you?

Michael Stein [00:11:56]:
Well, there's been some really nice Festbears that have been released already out into the world, and the Ianger, Oktoberfest Meertzen, which comes from Iinge, Germany. It's a it's an import. So So I'm not talking about DC beer. I'm talking about imports. Let me get back to the locals. As I mentioned before, very excited for Franklin's to come out with their Vienna style lager with bare branch malt. Lagers coming down the pike from Streetcar eighty two. We're excited for that. I know that the henceforth Oktoberfest is also taking place at the September, so we're really eager to see Henceforth has had some heaters that have come out. Brandy's been chatting me about the Grizzette. I'm overdue for a Grizzette at Henceforth, but I know they've got a Czech dark lager and a few other coming down the line. And then, of course, because I'm having a Lost Gen beer right now, very eager to see what mister Jared Pulliam has has got for us over in Ekington, at Lost Generation.

Brandy Holder [00:12:54]:
Yeah. I I had their fast beer this past Sunday, and we had a little tasty taste of it. A sample when our dear friend Dan from Dovetail came through to visit, when they Dovetail was doing their yearly takeover at, all the NRG spots. But, Jared gave us some tank pours of the Festbier, and it it's so good. And, yeah, henceforth is coming out with a nut brown ale, Czech dark tamave, and, Festbier at the end of the month. So I'm, you know, DC's newest brewery is coming out, like, swinging straight out of the fucking they're like, yes. Watch me. Ben is crushing it.

Jordan Harvey [00:13:35]:
Yeah. And and I think, collectively, we're here for it. And, also, it it's interesting, because because so many people are having an Oktoberfest. So many people are dropping some of the same styles. Some of these folks are sending these styles to Great American Beer Festival. So I'm curious to see how the DC area holds up against the rest of the country in terms of these these Martins and the the Fespeers that we send out to Denver, which I will miss, unfortunately. But for any of you guys are that are going, tag us, you know, comment on our page, let us know what you're drinking and what you're liking. Out of the DC area or how Denver's looking in October, we'd be curious to hear.

Michael Stein [00:14:08]:
Okay. Quick thirty second read the tea leaves, look in your crystal ball. Who is winning a GABF, a Great American Beer Festival medal this year?

Brandy Holder [00:14:19]:
Atlas. Always. Yeah. It's always Atlas.

Jacob Berg [00:14:21]:
Yeah. Brandy was the first to smash that Jeopardy buzzer answer because she's the she's the she's the

Brandy Holder [00:14:26]:
she's the sugar daddy. Neighbor. Yeah. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:14:29]:
Consultant neighbor metal, yes. Any day of the week. I had Bullpen pills last week. It is it's just a phenomenal beer flavored beer. I understand these, like, these styles are it's an American stout. It's our neighbor. It's, a vaguely German style pills for Bullpen. This isn't like the best hazy, the best fruit and sour, the best pastry stout. It's not something that people might queue up for, but these are really, really good beer flavored beers. So I think Atlas is a is a real quick answer.

Michael Stein [00:15:07]:
Okay. You took way more than thirty seconds. Will will Port City's optimal win of Port City's porter win a medal at CBS?

Jacob Berg [00:15:14]:
So yeah. So with Atlas off the table, I think it's Port City. I think you're looking at Port City Oktoberfest. Oh. Port City, Port City Porter, I think, because it comes in North Of 7 is sometimes a harder sell. I think that, like, the robust port of the ABV, I think, sometimes kinda overwhelms people. Yeah.

Brandy Holder [00:15:34]:
Do you recall actually, we should probably reach out to Port City about this. I feel like I should be more knowledgeable. Does Port City do they normally submit, IPAs to to JBF? Because the last time I was there, I had their newest West Coast IPA, and I didn't even drink my lager, which is crazy. Like, I just drank the West Coast. It was so good.

Jacob Berg [00:15:59]:
Yeah. So Port City will pretty much submit anything and everything that they can or bottle because they want the brewers feedback. On top of that, and I think this is a good sign of sort of the DMV DC beer solidarity, Port City is the drop off point for everyone's beer that goes to GABF. Nice. And so, like, if your Atlas, you're not sending your beer directly to the judges at GABF, You're actually sending your beer to Port City, and then Bill Butcher, co owner, co founder of Port City et al, sends everybody's beer goes off in one shipment that keeps the cold chain alive such that when that beer reaches the judges, it does so.

Brandy Holder [00:16:45]:
Fair fair game. Yeah. I'm glad Port City and Bill Butcher are nice people because somebody could be assholes and take with somebody's beer. No.

Jordan Harvey [00:16:53]:
I think they're I think they're doing the Lord's work. But I'm I'm curious, you know, I'm hoping that, Maryland has something to say at GABF. You know, obviously, SAPwood is one of the heavy hitters that I think gets gets a lot of love and attention and and rightfully so. Right? I mean, they they may they may know a thing or two about about, about beer. It may have written a book or two. But I'm I'm hoping that some of the other, Maryland breweries get some, some attention and notoriety for it, including, you know, Elder Pine. Obviously, I'm gonna always plug Third Hill because, you know, why not? Right? And they're making phenomenal beer as well. And I think they're submitting a Mars Inn out to, GABF, Parteon, which, I've had and it is delicious. So I'm definitely looking forward to that. But I'm I'm hoping that Denizens and everyone else that's in in in the Maryland area really make some noise because Port City, they do a phenomenal job. Lost Generation do a phenomenal job. But, you know, Maryland sometimes it's like it's like the whole, like, outcast thing. You know? Maryland has something to say. So that's all.

Jacob Berg [00:17:45]:
No. Like, one of the things that I think kinda irks me about GABF, and it's always in Colorado. And I think that there are some breweries who would if you could just maybe move it to Philly for just one year, what you would see some of these East Coast breweries do. GABF, a lot of times, you'd look at the awards, you'd look at who's there. It comes off as it's a beer fest for Colorado and the Pacific Northwest.

Jordan Harvey [00:18:16]:
Oh, damn.

Jacob Berg [00:18:17]:
Exactly. Look. Like, no doubt, like, those are all the breweries that put US craft beer on the map. Yep. That's where the hops are. Mhmm. Like, it makes a lot of sense. But there are plenty of Maryland breweries who I think would submit if it were two hours up 95

Jordan Harvey [00:18:35]:
For sure.

Jacob Berg [00:18:36]:
In a way that it's not when it's, you know, a in the

Jordan Harvey [00:18:39]:
middle of the country.

Jacob Berg [00:18:40]:
Yeah. In the middle of the country with hotels and airfare and all these sort of expenses that come with it.

Brandy Holder [00:18:45]:
But doesn't it cost money to submit? Each beer you submit, that's money. And our brewery is making a ton of money right now. They're not. So, like, that has to be a hard call. A a brewery could probably think they make a bunch of good beers, and they probably do. Exactly. Like, do they submit all those? How how how has the the tanking economy and the lack of foot traffic and all of our that we visibly see in our local breweries, how is it affecting everybody, and how is that gonna affect GABF and traveling? And and, you know, I don't really wanna bring up the orange man, but fuck.

Jordan Harvey [00:19:26]:
Well, in in addition to the fact that, you know, a lot of East Coast breweries have to choose. Right? Are you gonna do GABF or you're gonna do Snally? Because they're the same day. I mean, I know GABF is across, two or three days, if not three or four days. But, I mean, do you drive up to DC? Drive down to DC? Or do you fly out to Denver? So you kinda have to choose. And I think that's also why you may not see some of the notable breweries or even up and coming brewery submit to GABF. Because it's easier for me to hop in the car and bring my kegs, cases, six soles, whatever else up to DC for Snally versus getting out to Denver.

Jacob Berg [00:19:58]:
No. I think the economics of it are really interesting. We don't really see from anyone a bump if your brewery wins a medal. It's like Atlas can slap, you know, the silent neighbor bronze metal.

Brandy Holder [00:20:11]:
Bragging rights.

Jacob Berg [00:20:12]:
Old metal. It's bragging rights, and that's great. But in terms of, like, the raw economics of it, if you can get 7,000 ish people on Pennsylvania Avenue and a bunch of them check-in on Untapped, and the next day they go, oh, yeah. Remember that brewery? I had that. That's now on your radar. It could really be a wash. Maybe you wanna be at Snally, and you don't wanna be at JABF.

Brandy Holder [00:20:36]:
I can say that several of my friends who chose JABF last year, I love that for them. They have audibly told me that they are going to be at Snally this year. They're like, we love Snally way more than GABF. So no offense to GABF. Love you guys. Love that you guys are doing that. Keep up the good work. But Snally is a not to miss. So, and I'm excited because next episode, guess who we're having on? The man himself, the man who brings the Snally together, Greg Engert. So stay tuned for our next episode.

Jordan Harvey [00:21:13]:
Yeah. And and I can't wait to hear from Greg. You know, he always gives us a nice little sneak peek of what to expect for Snally, especially for us beer nerds to get our, Excel sheets and everything else together for the the the running of the nerds. And I say that with love, and I say that with love, but, you know, I'd be remiss to not shout out all of our Patreon members. Thank you guys so very much for, supporting us, standing by us, and also actually filling in and submitting the survey, because we have listened, and we are working on, bringing you guys some dope dope events on a monthly basis. Brandy has always done that. So we're gonna see if we can help Brandy out with that, because the women's brew culture club, the beer share, amongst other things, have really been, organized, from by Brandy, and thank you for that as well. So so, yes, just thank you to all our supporters. For those of you that may not know what I mean by that, we have a Patreon, and we really could benefit, from continuing to spread the beer news and supporting our local breweries, if you continue to support us. And, again, the the lowest tier is at $5, the most expensive tier is at $25. And, we've increased our partnerships with local brands, as well. So you guys can continue to, take advantage of that, not just our beer shares, but also some of our discount codes at the brew shop and everything else. Shout out to Julie.

Brandy Holder [00:22:25]:
Absolutely. And while we have your attention, I want to bring up the fact that Pink Boots, they're relaunching the Maryland branch. And the best person for us to listen to about this is Lauren, our guest tonight. Lauren, tell us about the, Pink Boots relaunch.

Jacob Berg [00:22:47]:
Hey, guys. Thanks again for having me on. So, yes, Pink Boots Maryland chapter is making a comeback. Of course, with the pandemic, a lot of changes, you know, took place, and so decided to bring it back. Stephanie, Shout out to Stephanie and Amber. Shout out to Amber, both members of Women's Brew Culture Club. Shout out to Brandy for creating Women's Brew Culture Club. We had a meet and greet happy hour at Checkerspot. Shout out to Judy, last Wednesday. Big, big turnout, so we're excited, for, what's next. And there are gonna be a few events coming up for Pink Boots Maryland and also Pink Boots DMV, so stay tuned. DC. So to join, you can follow, any of the Instagram pages or go directly to the Pink Boots site, and there are different tiers for memberships. Membership fees are very, very low, and you don't necessarily have to work in the beer industry. They're a little bit more lenient now in terms of who qualifies for membership, but check it out. Follow everything on all the socials, and stay tuned for more, info. And, of course, follow DC beer women's agriculture club. All the all the things. Follow it all.

Brandy Holder [00:24:01]:
Support women in beer. Yes. Thank you, Lauren.

Michael Stein [00:24:07]:
Well, we're excited for our special guest by special request for our next episode. Very eager to tell you more about Snallygaster and also to see you at our beer share in September. One final plug I will mention, my my firm, Lost Loggers, will be at the Hyrek House on September 18. We'll have senate, senate Bach, and senate Merriton, which is just out now. But come to the DC Beer Share. We would love to see you in September.

Jordan Harvey [00:24:37]:
Yeah. And, just, you know, final plug for me, homecoming volume three is on the way. Just wanna put that out there. So if you'd like to support the the Harvey Wilder Foundation, we do appreciate it. Got another hazy,

Brandy Holder [00:24:49]:
front who do not know Harvey Wilder Foundation or Homecoming three, could you give a little brief description?

Jordan Harvey [00:24:57]:
So so dating back to 2021, we've been collaborating with, local breweries, first of which was Ashland Brewing, rest in peace. Shout out to Matt and Emma. And now we collaborate with a Third Hill Brewing Company to, produce just a hazy IPA, a wonderful, delicious, everyday drinking beer despite the weather, for all the hazy lovers and hot lovers out there. As a fundraiser for the Harvard Wilder Foundation, which is a foundation, that provides a scholarship for students going to historically black colleges and universities, including Howard and many others. But, we we've been in operation for ten years. We just celebrated our ten year, anniversary down in in Georgia where we initially were founded and started and started. And, and since then, we've just continued to expand. We we give out a thousand bucks per student, and we purchase their first passport because we understand the value of travel. So if you purchase homecoming, you're allowing us to continue to support students, that may not may or may not be able to support themselves. Right? So we just wanna keep things going. And, education is key. So we wanna keep education funded.

Brandy Holder [00:25:59]:
Knowledge is

Jacob Berg [00:26:00]:
power. I

Jordan Harvey [00:26:01]:
know what

Brandy Holder [00:26:02]:
I know.

Jordan Harvey [00:26:03]:
Yes. Yes.

Brandy Holder [00:26:05]:
Thank you for all the information. Before we leave you, hey. We've missed you. We've missed you so much. Oh my god. As I'm sitting on my living room floor, I want to, include Richard papa beer in here because he never really gets to be on the show even though he produces everything and does all of our taxes. And he's he, like, he wears

Michael Stein [00:26:28]:
the cape

Richard Fawal [00:26:29]:
so hard.

Brandy Holder [00:26:30]:
He really he really wears the the cape that no it's like an invisible cape. So, Richard, who started out as the Brewdaddies thank you, Julie, for telling him to change the fucking name of that. Also, we love you, Julie. We miss you. Julie of Denison. Sorry. Richard hates when we do shout outs. Okay. So, Richard, tell us about Tennessee beer.

Richard Fawal [00:26:53]:
Oh, oh, I I'm very, very fortunate, to live in Maryville, Tennessee now, which is the home of what used to be Blackberry Farm Brewery, which some of you know, very high quality brewery, is now Peaceful Side Brewery. Peaceful Side, is I will actually started as a as a restaurant in a little town called Townshend, Tennessee. Townshend is right on the border of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, and the it's it has a Virginia connection that I have to tell you guys about because peaceful side was started by, a young gentleman and his cousin, both of whom lived in Richmond, and worked in the food service industry and the entertainment industry in Richmond and came down, to Townsend, where, my friend Houston, Houston Oldham, who's basically the head of operations for what is Oldham Hospitality, came down to help his parents run something called Dancing Bear in Townsend and convince them to open up a peaceful side brewery in Townsend, which is like a little microbrewery, and then they bought the brewery from Blackberry Farm in Maryville. Now Blackberry Farm was one of the reasons we moved to Maryville because the beer is so good. And I was like, well, there's, like, kick ass brewery in this town. Let's live here when we decided to move. But I spent a lot of time there. The beer is fantastic. I'm good friends now with everybody there just as I became great friends with all of my brewing friends here in the DMV. And it is, and it is it the they've won let's see. They won a GABF medal this year. Can't remember what it was for. They they won both a a a GABF medal and a World Beer Cup medal, for beers in this year. Their their Solveza, which is a Mexican lager, won the World Cup. Absolutely fantastic. Always have a four pack of that in the fridge. So I'm very, very fortunate that I get to live in a place where there is high quality beer. I also it's also thirty minutes south of Knoxville, Tennessee. So I get to, periodically, at least once a month, drink some Zuul. Peanut butter. Okay. Jelly. Can I just I'm just gonna take a moment for those of you who are aware of the PB and J mixtape? I'm a tell you a little story about PB and J mixtape. Two years ago, three years ago?

Jacob Berg [00:29:38]:
I think it was two years ago.

Richard Fawal [00:29:39]:
Two years ago at Snally, PB and J mixtape made its debut. Now all of my friends in Knoxville all of my friends in Knoxville are shocked when I open up the dcbeer.com article about p b and j mixtape and say, we were the first to talk about this. Shit. Yeah.

Michael Stein [00:29:59]:
Earlier thereafter. They're like, what?

Richard Fawal [00:30:02]:
And I'm like, yep. This was us. And the really funny thing about it is nobody actually likes nobody likes beer like GB and J Mixtape. But if when I go to Zul, when I go to their brewery by the way, they're growing by leaps and bounds. They just they've just acquired a new, a a new brewing. They just another brewery, like, closed down, and they they bought the facility. And so so Zul is, like, kicking ass. But when you go to when I go to the Zulu the original Zulu brewery in Knoxville, it's it's, like, half the people there are drinking PB and J mixtape. And I will tell you the last funny story about this. When our local we went to the opening night of our of our local triple a ball team, double a ball team rather, in in Knoxville. They had a brand new stadium this season, and we went the first night. And and my lovely wife, Karen, and I are sitting there, watching the game, drinking our local beers. And in front of us was this line of probably eight women and their children. And and then another woman walks up to this line of women who are there with their kids watching the baseball game, and she has a can of PB and J mixtape. And all of the women, like, immediately looked at her and screamed, and they all got up and immediately went and got their own cans Yeah. Of PB and J mixtape. It is wildly popular. I've heard numbers about how much I'm not gonna say it on the show, but but I I've heard many, many, many numbers of how much money ZOLL makes off of that terrible.

Michael Stein [00:31:42]:
Some things are for in person Agree. Having become have beers with us

Richard Fawal [00:31:47]:
in the future. Ask me at Snally. I'll be I'll be back for Snally, and you can ask me at Snally about that. And, of course, as you'll hear more about in our next episode, we are, once again, for the third year in a row, going to have a DC beer stage at Snallygaster. We are gonna have all of your favorite brewers from all over the world on that stage in panels all day long. So you should definitely plan to be there. Definitely plan to come by the DC Beer Stage at Snallygaster, and you'll learn more about that as we get closer.

Jacob Berg [00:32:19]:
Thanks for listening, everybody. It's good to be back. We are at DC beer across social media. That's Instagram, Facebook, bruce sky, and, we will see you out at many, many, many Oktoberfest and festy events over the next month. Alright. Be well, everybody. Thanks. Cheers.

Brandy Holder [00:32:39]:
Many, many Oktoberfest. Yes. We'll see you. September.