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Hey, y'all it is , Sunday. March 13th, 2022. I'm your moderator, Melanie Dione. And this is resist bot live. Welcome everybody. Like a lot of people I'm obviously already on the daylight savings time, struggle bus, but we're going to make it through. So thank you so much for joining us.
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You can go to Twitter, Facebook and use the hashtag live botters. Also Tik TOK. We love you on tiktok. So feel free to use the hashtag live botters and join the conversation. So this week, as many weeks in the past, we have been waiting up to new encroachments on the rights of trans people. Most recently, almost on a daily basis.
One of the most effective tools in the Katrice toolbox is fear. Fear that the other is going to come and take something from you. And that's whether you have the Tiki torch in Virginia, or if you're examining a female athletes genitalia, because you don't believe she can be that good of an athlete.
This is a very heavy lift for all of us, because this isn't a partisan issue. This is an issue anti-trans sentiment is not only partisan on the bills. It is how we talk, how we think, how we address our trans neighbors. And so it's very important that we have conversations like this and make sure that trans people are a part of all of our conversations because they're our neighbors.
So I'm going to start with one of our regular panelists and bring them up. We have Susan, Susan Stutz. Hey Susan,
Mel, how are you
I'm doing good. How are you?
struggling with the little, you know, fast forward all the time, but
we'll struggle bus like that.
my struggle bus feels like a struggle skateboard today. It's just not, it's just not doing anything, but we're gonna make it. We're testing the struggle in public model.
Well, we're pushing it a little bit, but where we're going to get it together. Lots of cover. We've got a lot of guests.
Yes we do. I'm I'm really looking forward to expanding my understanding and my knowledge base on this topic. I'm my ears are prime to listen today.
new guests that are going to be coming back. Yes. I'm excited about that. We also got a special guest, our executive director, Jason Putori that's where he is going to be in the background, helping us with comments and questions and all of that good stuff. So we want to welcome him. I, Jason.
Hey guys love this. Love these shirts, Susan. Thank you.
Thank you. My little Rosie, , all hail the Rosie. You can't see her, but it's an odd angle.
Love it. Thanks so much for joining us this week, Jason, and I'm glad that you're here. This is one of those conversations it takes all of us. Trans issues are our issues. You know, so it's, not just something that should be in a box where only one segment is fighting for this.
When we start looking at equality, when we start looking at equity, when we start looking at justice, that applies for all people. So I'm so glad that we have a full representation for this week. So especially, and I'm going to start bringing up our guests who we have first is Diondra Elan. Hi Diondra. Welcome.
So by that you can join us this week from the lone star state.
Alrighty. I'm glad that you invited me. It's such an honor.
Well, absolutely. The thing about it is we have to only when we're talking about this, we're talking about how these policies, how this sentiment affects the people that's targeted. we can hear and what politicians and talking heads want to say about it, but in the end of it, this affects real people.
And this is why we're here. Let's talk about how, what, how the things we say, how the things we legislate affect the people that we know and the people that we don't know. So thank you so much for joining us and sharing your experience and your thoughts on in this discussion today. We also have Lauren Rouse Hi, Lauren.
Hi, how are you?
I'm doing great. Now you're one of the good folks who keep through this about moving because you actually last year wrote a petition for Florida.
Yeah. So there was a bill that had been introduced in the Florida house, that eventually passed. and it was on, keeping trans children out of sports, in their K through 12 education. It did pass. but it's currently being challenged, in courts, because it violates a title nine protections against sexuality. So yeah, we started a petition last year.
Thank you so much. And that's, I mean, isn't that part
of why discussions like this are necessary because the legislation moves so, so fast, you know, by the time we have one that's dealt with there's another one that's cropping up. So we've seen, that was kind of at the beginning of the wave and we're still here
and our last, last special guests of the
week, Bianca Mac fellow, a new Orleans native.
Hello, Bianca. Good morning. Thank you so much for joining us cause, uh, new Orleans native, but now you've abandoned me. You're on the west coast now, but otherwise the south is very heavily represented here. Thank you for joining us this week. And you're another person who is a strong advocate, a strong voice, and we can lead in with you.
. Can you talk a bit about what your experiences and just navigating the day-to-day not necessarily your everyday personal, but how, it impacts you when you're life becomes, an arbitrary
Boston. Well, good
for other people when this is your real life.
So one thing I'll say about that quickly is that it's actually a pretty tough, it's a tough reckoning, right? I live in one of 11 states that currently has not passed any anti-trans legislation attempts and the year 2022, so far, um, 39 states. I've tried it since January one, at least 25 anti-trans bills have been proposed since March 10th, which is the Thursday before we started. Ah, this stuff's coming fast. And one of the easiest things to say is, oh, those silly Bible belt. Uh, no, this is an American problem. I'll just say 39 out of 50 states have tried and have attempted, uh, the passage of some level of anti-trans legislation. They've had a pretty decent success rate.
Unfortunately, Iowa, Texas, Florida have all had some recent anti-trans things pass. And so for me watching, from where I'm watching, right, it's it just becomes a thing where it's like, okay, I'm not writing letters to my own senators. I'm making phone calls and doing canvassing in my own district where I live. Um, I'm having to extend myself to initiatives well, beyond where I collect mail. Well beyond where I travel well beyond where I live. Because again, this is an American. racism, it's an America problem. Uh, anti-trans trans negative. Sentiments is an America problem. It's a product of a number of things I want to numerate here in this introduction moment. what it does is it raises the antenna and it takes me from a local on the ground grassroots advocate to a national like, oh goodness, we got work to do in Florida. Oh goodness. We got work to do in Texas. So let's go over to an Iowa and then it's like, Can I do this? Can I take on the world and still receive dignity in my own backyard?
And the answer is kind of,
That's the conversation that is going to come up again because we do have a, um, an interview with Andrea from the transgender education network of Texas, where we talk about how sometimes even if we're in an area that is more progressive, that's not passing this type of legislation. We still have to contend with those of our neighbors, those people in our states our areas who are in regions that are not as progressive, that are not as understanding that are not going to have Won't have the access needed to live, to thrive.
Um, so I appreciate you saying that Lauren, I am going to slide on over to you with your perspective of having filled out this petition, having had that ignored by your representatives and still being in this fight and seeing how your state has not only gone from, anti trans legislation to anti queer legislation.
Can you talk a bit about how that affects you, how that affects the work and how that affects your day to day?
Yeah. So, I am the current the young democratic socialists of America chapter at the university of central Florida, which is located in Orlando. And Orlando is kind of this like blue bubble and a. Decently red states. Um, we like to say that Florida is a swing state, but say not, not really.
, so we're, a organization that is fighting for equity and equality for all people, you know, across backgrounds, sexualities, classes, all sorts of things. Every semester, we kind of run a, clothing drive to support transgender and non-binary gender nonconforming students on campus.
and it just so happens that our first clothing drive that we had, ran in conjunction with trans day of visibility. we're also then experiencing this really hateful anti-trans sports bill. we ended up having over 200 people come to the drive, which was awesome because it was like our first semester, we were still in like COVID regulations on all of these things.
We're able to get so many signatures, but then to feel like that it was just completely ignored by our legislators. It's really hard, but that doesn't mean that we still don't continue to do the work. And I think something that happens a lot with people. you have these battles that you face every day and when you lose something it's really, it's really hard because You want to make things better for your friends and the people in your organization who identify as trans or who are trans and people who are on your campus, who are trans. it's really, really hard to then be like, okay, What do we do next? But I think something that we always kind of stress in YDSA is that we need to build a better future for people.
We need to work towards us and we need to work towards it's collectively. we can't stop. We can't lose our momentum. for all of these things. We really want to, keep us moving forward and what we've seen with the, don't say gay bill in Florida, as we've seen just kind of this huge outpouring, not only in the LGBTQ community, but also just across Orlando, across Florida in general.
I mean, there's been rallies like every other week. We're also having pretty bad anti-abortion with a 15 week abortion ban, also having anti critical race theory bills. Florida is kind of a hot mess right now. The thing that we need to all keep doing is we need to know that it's not going to get better at these people who say they stand for us.
Don't really stand for us. And we need to do the work we need to, you know, come together and collectively do things with our community because. If we make changes at the community level. If we get these people out of office who don't listen to us, if we kind of move from the bottom up, then we're still able to create change. It just might take a little bit longer than, a situation where we would get an, a result, as soon as we were done with the petition or whatever.
thank you. Thank you so much for that because it's you covered a lot. We talked, we've talked over the past few weeks about how there's this part, where we cut conversations off at the knees. this is just another example of that. So I want to go to Diondra, because we have the most, one of the, larger one of the ones more in the news when it comes down to anti-trans not only legislation, but also just directives.
We had a very interesting conversation and you brought up sports and how, how so much of this, when we, especially when we start looking at younger people, it's it really starts in sports, which I thought was interesting because this is when we started looking at Florida back in the day, that's kind of where they were.
I like you to maybe lead into that a little bit and also discuss your own observations and experiences and how this legislation impacts how you have to advocate and care for yourself.
Folks in the sense of like there's this running thing where they just feel like a lot of people are, were assigned male at birth, or just wanting to transition being a woman so they can Excel at sports better.
Cause I guess. Competing against males. Wasn't good. So they're going to try to just go the easy route and like try to beat out women and stuff. But I feel like a lot of that is mainly from rhetoric received from like shows and stuff. Like I know south park, they touched on that and they were like, really? went completely over the top. And then I just feel like for the most part, it's kind of like this thing where it's like, oh, You're not even really basing it off the person. It's just the part they have. So with one part running around with all these other little girls kicking a ball and like throwing stuff, even though the sport at all has nothing to do with that.
And then if that trans person happens to Excel, then it's like, you got all these mad parents just like back in the day, when a parent would be mad at that, like a black child
was, watch how it was like. Sports over the, the white
child. And so it's, really just the same thing.
bigotry and it uses the same tools. The faces, the mass on it may be the same, but it uses the same tools. I think a lot about the concepts of feminism and womanism and how much of that we need to interrogate, assist women. What, how much of our, beliefs. Are rooted in this idea that things will be taken the fear of, the same people who want history taken out of, books, because they don't want their children to be indoctrinated or learn.
Let's not say indoctrinate. They don't want their children to, to learn. And they call it indoctrination. The same, those same people are calling caring for children abuse or trying to label it abuse. And you have to see the hypocrisy of that. The conversation. Overwhelmingly when people want to defend anti-trans sentiment.
Well, this is my opinion. This is my opinion. Your opinion is becoming legislation. So where are you now? That's the thing that we really have to get into. I want to bring up, we were able to talk to Andrea Segovia of 10th transgender education network of Texas. And our conversation really went into what it's like in the state of Texas where Deondra lives as well.
What this work with the work has become in the state of Texas. One of the reasons she could not join us. This, you know, live this week is because of the work that she's doing. I believe she's in, in south, by Southwest and they are doing work to, to address what's going on right now in Texas and across the country.
So if we can run that interview, I would greatly appreciate it.
Not anti-trans sentiment. And um, it being a matter of opinion
that we're ignoring something very crucial to how words and sentiment can affect us. And I know that you had some you've done research on that, Bianca. Would you like to share some of what,
some of the information that you have with them?
yeah. And I'm glad you find it as such, right? that it's it's opinion, but it, capable of doing things right. When we start dressing things as opinion to be widely accepted, would they become is, new sets of facts essentially. they shape worldviews and they shape how people perceive, trans people just in the abstract.
Right. This is before they've ever met any trans person. And this is before they've a meaningful interaction or anything like that. Right. And so what I have here is I have. Over a dozen that, this is all well-reported. This is all confirmable, things that speak to how opinions become negative sentiment and what they turn into. What it's all born out of. Right. So let's begin with hate crimes, right? based on LGBTQ identification, 16.7% of all hate crimes committed. So that's about one in six, or based on LGBTQ identification. That's third in the list of hate crimes, indexes, racist number one, is number two before anybody gets any ideas.
Again, something constituting. The hate crime is. Based on not being in the majority. Right? So this isn't, oh, I'm a Christian I'm so persecuted somebody. No, it's, you know, Hey, you attack that person just because they're Muslim, they didn't do anything. You'd had no prior interaction with them. You saw their turbine or you saw their banner of dress and you decided that was sufficient to assault them. we saw that with the stop AAP, I hate movement. when people were just attacking Asian people of various, origins, because they were like, Hey, you know the coronavirus because. Messing with people out in public anyway, LGBT youth. Right? So I'm going to get to the T in a second here, but LBG youth times more likely to attempt suicide. 52% of all trans people have considered suicide within the last year. 42% of our LGBTQ people have considered suicide within the last last year. 94% of LGBTQ youth, read about these legislations going on in the world, right? Whether it's in their state or outside of it. And they report that these legislative efforts to negate their experiences or their existences negatively impacts their mental health. LGBTQ students are three times more likely to report that they feel unsafe at school. They're four times more likely to be victims of violent crime, they're more than twice as likely to begin use of illicit drugs or suffer substance.
Hey Bianca, are you back with us?
I am. What was the last thing we
we were talking about the youth and going into how. How much of this is youth driven. How much of this is kind of, especially the current wave is cutting people off at the root. Just recently, there was a, I can't remember which state this was. One of them that's run by a lo some person and they were signing this anti-trans sports spill.
I think it was Iowa with all the young girls kind of standing around smile. It was, ghoulish. And it was the same people who do not want kids to be taught about hate from the past. It's absolutely fine to have him in these propaganda driven photo-shoots basically that are. Don't teach them the past, but teach them to fear the invisible boogeyman., I feel like I've, we've talked about this before. Parents got very interested in education when there was a rash of kids identifying their parents on January six, they realized like, this is a new this is the new wave.
They're realizing that education knowledge is stifling, their stifling, their ability to keep the status quo in there and children are challenging them. So of course you reach out to the youth and put them at odds with one another. And yes, that was in Des Moines that was Iowa governor Kim Reynolds signing, signing that law.
So we want to talk about like how we can support, like what kind of support we can give, whether it's from a business standpoint, whether it's from the standpoint of someone who is CIS in that type of thing. We had, there was very recently Google, apple, Metta, and a few other corporations reached out to Texas called on them to drop anti-trans legislation.
There's been a big outcry with Florida's, don't say gay for Disney to stay anything, particularly when Disney is powered by queer people. I wanted to just reach out to the panelists a little bit for some of their thoughts or even questions on how we can. Be better allies, whether it's Jason and Susan my own OGs or, or our, our newbies.
What is the sort of missing ingredient that you need, whether it's informs of amplification or whatever, and anybody I'm kind of leaving this as an open thing for anybody to grab.
I'll jump in there. I think one of the things that we have to do is we have to take one. We have to be willing to educate ourselves. On a variety of topics, anything that just because it doesn't affect us doesn't mean that we're not responsible for fixing the problem. So I think one, we have to educate ourselves, but I think too, we have to be willing to have those same kinds of conversations, learning conversations with other people.
And being able to have those really hard discussions with somebody that doesn't necessarily have the same values that you have, doesn't share the same thought processes that you have. You have to be willing to discuss it and to educate and to learn about it and recognize that, eventually.
The people who are, I believe attacking transgender youth and transgender families, they're going to run out of transgender youth and transgender family. They're gonna run out of, of people that they view as the other. And, you know, so then what happens, Mel? You don't necessarily fit the feminine ideal of what a female is and neither do I it doesn't stop there.
It eventually it filters down. And so I think in large part education and being willing to talk with people who don't necessarily share your values, I think that's hugely important.
I can speak for myself in saying that as a black woman, we were historically denied just the access or even just the identity as women and excluded from feminist circles excluded by the definition of my feminist or a womanist need as a black woman is not going to be the same as a straight white feminist with privilege.
So what does that look like? When I look at any bigotry, I have to look at how this impact. Black and brown women. And I'm always going to go there first. And when we have these conversations, these opinion conversations, the thing that gets left out is that black and brown trans women are more susceptible to violence than anyone else in the trans community.
, what it's like being in Texas. She talked about how her area in Dallas is one of the most dangerous places to live as a black trans woman.
So I can't ignore that. So when I look at the fact that with more within opinion, Regardless of who you're aiming at. I don't care if a trans woman was mean to you that time it's ludicrous. Well, because this is a lot of it. A lot of when we get down to when we exclude trans women from women is, is, oh yeah.
A trans woman was mean to me. I don't care. This is the same thing that is used when we talk about racism and how we, how we want people to behave. Diondra. we talked a bit about what being a trans woman is like in Dallas and, and the, and the safety.
Did you want to tap in on that a little bit?
Yeah. For me, I feel like I've had to learn to be really, really resilient and really mindful of who I put myself around. Because you tell somebody that here it's kind of like a 50 50 of like, oh, you might have a new best friend or, this person might try to. Getting everyone to like trying to lowkey burn you at the stake or something.
So I live where a lot of murders for black trans women happen in Dallas, especially. So if the most dangerous place in the country for black trans women, especially, but trans women as a whole, because non-black trans women still get murdered.
. So just like within the state, there was just some, Latin X trans woman in Lubbock who was a drag performer, an entertainer. I think she was killed by someone up there and they found her body.
Somewhere up there. So, and that looks like not too long ago, a few weeks ago. but yeah, I'm saying like Dallas especially is like the number one dangerous place in the country. The most murders in the recent years have happened here. and then I was just like saying like, after that it's like Houston, the number three is like new Orleans and I believe number four, is Atlanta, I think number five would probably be Miami.
These kinds of cities. That was just like I was wanting to piggyback off what you said earlier about it, the trans woman being mean to you. Cause I actually have an aunt that, that same story so that's why she like, kinda like settled her, transphobia. She mentioned to me one time.
So trans woman accidentally misgendered her. And then the trans woman was like, basically saying, well, I'm sorry. I didn't really mean it, but basically I think the girl said to her, you, you don't really make it easier for you by dressing how you do. But I guess that was her being mean her, but I just thought that was really funny.
You brought that up because that's like the main thing they try to is that,
I think we're losing you a little bit but you're, you're writing that there's this call for civility when we're dealing with the group who's being marginalized, oppressed overlooked, whether it's your race, your religion your your gender, your sexuality, people want you to be nice when you ask for your rights and that's just not reasonable.
It's a function. It's a function of Oppression and bigotry, I want to get, because one of the things that we run on are letters and petitions, and we do have a few legislation moves so quickly sometimes, we'll have, for example, like we had Lauren's petition that you know, was voted on and, but we do have some current petitions.
And as Susan, can you bring those up
sure. We've got, um, two petitions out of the state of Texas and, they both are speaking to governor Abbott's directive and, you know, he's establishing this pattern of using the public to enforce his own ideology. He did this with the abortion law the abortion directive, and he's doing it again with the anti-trans directive.
what we're looking for is for him to, quit making his opinions law. And so we have two, two petitions out of the state of Texas, and one of them is very short, very succinct, and it's simply asking Congress to do what it can to protect. Transgender children and families. And so that petition is called protect trans children.
And the call sign for that petition is P as in Peter, w as in William, J as in jelly, R as in Robert, T as in Tom, Q as in quilt. And so if, if that's one that you want to sign on to, all you have to do is text that call, sign to 5 0 4 0 9, and you can shoot that off to your representatives. And then you can also invite your family and friends to sign off on it as well.
And then we have a second one. That's called protect Texas youth denounce Abbott's directive. And that is a petition directed to state governors around the country asking them to speak out about what's happening in Texas, you know, peer pressure doesn't just happen at our level. Peer pressure happens higher up the food chain too.
So we're asking for state governors to weigh in on it. And so the call sign for that petition is P as in Peter, D as in David, C as in cat, B as in boy, I, as an IB and V as in Victor. And so again, you can send that to 5 0 4, 0 9, and you can shoot that petition off to. Governor, and as always, if these petitions don't say what it is in your heart that you want to say any letter that you send to your representative can be turned into a petition, and we encourage you to do that.
Anything that you write can be a letter to the editor. We encourage you to do that as well. So, and then invite your friends and families to sign on to these
one thing that I wanted to make everyone aware of freedom for all americans.org, there is a legislative tracker
where they look at anti queer bills, anti transgender bills, school policies, youth healthcare there, they're looking at the whole thing.
So if you want to know what's going on in your state, go to we can drop the link
at freedomforallamericans.org. And that will keep you aware of what's going on, where and who you need to send letters to, because that's important. You need to make yourself heard. I cannot stress enough. These people are our employees and we should
like that. so before we go, I want to give everyone a chance to shout themselves out. Tell us where we can find you
organization, if you'd like to shout out an organization that you will be, that you'd like us to take a look at like us to support by all means. And I'm going to start with Lauren first.
Thank you for joining us this week.
Yeah, definitely. so you can follow me at Russ Lauren C
on sweater. , it is, , a place that I definitely, I'm posting a lot about all the crazy stuff going on in Florida. and we're asking, our organization is working with the Florida access network, which provides. Accessible abortions, and abortion funds to people throughout Florida, because of the current 15 week, bands that is probably going to get signed into law at some point this week, or asking that people you don't reach out and donate to them. they're a great organization, and they really support the BI POC community in
Thank you so much, Lauren,
can we have you back, Bianca? Where can we find you?
Yeah, I'm going to plug equitablegivencircle.org It is an initiative started here in Portland, Oregon, back in March of 2020, and in a little over two years, at EGC has kept so many people afloat. we've gotten people into positions of prosperity. We have a housing initiative. We do CSA boxes weekly. I am on their board of directors, full disclosure thing. equitable giving circle.org. You can go there. Please donate. Our executive director is currently running to unseat the current one of the car, city commissioners, leaving her work. We see the direct results of her work on the ground grassroots level.
And. It's one of the great things about the work that we're doing is that it's all scalable. It can all be implemented at the city-wide level. if only someone cared about the people in the same way that our ed does. And so EGC, again, looks to support black and brown Bipoc Families with housing assistance, rental assistance, weekly CSA delivery boxes, well as a free pantry once a week for people to come in, have to prove anything about like their income status or, their need base, just come in and take the things that people have generously furnished for us and not generously furnished as in like, Hey, it was the last chance on, this rack of bread or these Pinto beans or. there's other just kind of discard thing. it's good. Seasonal, fresh produce. it's pantry staples, right? And so it's not like it discards it. You reject, so you're oh, you got to use this in four days or it's going to go bad. We try to give people good stuffy. We put quality things to people's hands.
We do books and plant jams. We do all kinds of really good things with that program. And. Yeah, I just want to like EDC. I've been volunteering with them for going on two years now. I was asked to join their board last summer. has been a delight and honor to be a part of something that helps move so much capital toward people who are historically underserved.
Thank you. You're a delight and I'm glad you're here with us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining and can't wait to have you back.
And Deandra hello. We're glad you're here. so tell us where we can find you.
you can follow me on Twitter at . I can't wait to be back. Hopefully this time with better quality mail and themes. I don't know what was going on earlier, but it's behind me now.
We're glad to have you. And Diondra is one of my favorite follows Diondra and Bianca.
One of my favorite follows
if we're fully disclosing these things, these are, people that I know and, and really
appreciate. Is there a voice in everything really
Great voices on, trans issues, but just great voices and perspectives on life.
So I would say follow both of them. They're two of my favorite favorites. Cannot wait to have you back. Thank you so much. Diondra, Susan, we're working through it.
We're working through that struggle, struggle, struggle, struggle, bus. That's my new phrase. I'm totally stealing it, claiming credit for it. One of the things that came up a couple of times is talking about mental health issues and mental health. It is so important, transgender is not just a physical thing.
It's a mental health issue as well.
And whenever I'm thinking about mental health issues and challenges, I think about to write love on her arms, which is an organization here in the state of Florida, they are doing
wonderful work, helping people with depression and addiction and, just mental health challenges.
So if you know, you're looking for a way to help. You know, support a mental health organization. They
are a nonprofit and they are doing really good work and women's history month, women make the world go round. They really do so show some love to the women in your life.
I've never been in a situation or looked at a movement and thought, oh, you know what, we need less women. I appreciate shows like this I appreciate when we can, can really bring a fullness to the conversation because we're cheating ourselves.
Otherwise, we're cheating other people, but we're definitely cheating ourselves otherwise. So thank you, Susan.
Thank you all. Thank you all for joining us. This has been a. And I overuse the word amazing, but conversation perspective, those are my love languages. So it was really an honor to be able to have this show. And I hope all of you enjoyed it as much as I did.
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