Now or Never: Long-Term Care Strategy with Kosta Yepifantsev

Join Kosta and his guest: Dr. Jennifer Stelter, Clinical Psychologist, Dementia Expert, and Johns Hopkins Press Author specializing in dementia care. Dr. Stelter is a Certified Dementia Practitioner, Certified Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia Care Trainer recognized by the National Council for Certified Dementia Practitioners.

Today we’re talking about dementia, mental health, and how to lower the risk of Alzheimer’s.

Find out more about Dr. Jennifer Stelter and Dementia Connection Institute:
https://www.dementiaconnectioninstitute.org/

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https://kostayepifantsev.com/


What is Now or Never: Long-Term Care Strategy with Kosta Yepifantsev?

Now or Never: Long-Term Care Strategy is a podcast for all those seeking answers and solutions in the long-term care space. Too often we don’t fully understand the necessity of care until it’s too late. This podcast is designed to create solutions, start conversations and bring awareness to the industry that will inevitably impact all Americans.

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: But
inevitably we know that it's

possibility for all of us now if
there is a familial history of

it, we have a higher chance of
developing it does not mean that

we're going to get it we just
are more predisposed to it but

we have some control over it to
be able to say, Okay, I'm going

to try to live the healthiest
lifestyle I can, with the

ability to lower my risk.

Caroline Moore: Welcome to Now
or Never Long-Term Care Strategy

with Kosta Yepifantsev a podcast
for all those seeking answers

and solutions in the long term
care space. This podcast is

designed to create resources,
start conversations and bring

awareness to the industry that
will inevitably impact all

Americans. Here's your host
Kosta Yepifantsev.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Hey, y'all,
it's Kosta. today. I'm here with

my guest. Dr. Jennifer Stelter,
clinical psychologist, dementia

expert in John Hopkins press
author specializing in dementia

care. Dr. Stelter is a certified
dementia practitioner, certified

Alzheimer's disease and dementia
care trainer recognized by the

National Council for certified
dementia practitioners. Today

we're talking about dementia,
mental health and how to lower

the risk of Alzheimer's. Dr.

Stelter, as a clinical
psychologist, you've spent the

majority of your career
researching, developing and

experimenting to provide
innovative solutions and

treatments in the dementia care
space. How did you start working

in this field?

Dr. Jennifer Stelte: Absolutely.

First, thank you for so much for
having me on, I appreciate it.

You know, my journey is quite
different than a lot of

healthcare providers, or, you
know, caregivers who move into

this space. I'm a clinical
psychologist by trade, as you

mentioned, and the earlier part
of my career actually was spent

strictly in mental health. And
so I work with a wide variety of

clients, you know, anywhere from
folks with me, you know, minor

depression all the way through
severe, you know, cognitive and

psychotic, you know, events and
things like that. And so, you

know, when I was in my postdoc,
actually, I started a project

with Northwestern here in
Chicago, Illinois, and the Heinz

VA, where we were looking at
helping seniors to live a

healthier lifestyle. So that was
kind of my first exposure to the

senior population. And I just
absolutely fell in love with

working with them, spending time
with them, talking hours with

them about their, their life
experiences, and I learned a

tremendous amount. And so to
myself, I said, you know, I

really think I have something
here in terms of where my

interest might lie for the rest
of my career. And so, after my

postdoc had completed, I
actually entered into senior

living, and helped in the
behavioral health realm. And so

here in Illinois, a lot of
individuals who have mental

health challenges do end up
seeking services in nursing home

kinds of settings, because it
isn't available mental health

services, you know, to the
spectrum that it used to be. And

so that's kind of where I
started in senior living, and

then quickly transitioned into
working in memory care. And so

you know, in the same realm,
when I was working with seniors,

at the Heinz VA, Northwestern, I
absolutely just fell in love

with folks living with dementia.

They're, they have so much fun
during the day, and they are

just the sweetest folks. And so
when I started to kind of embark

upon that journey, I realized,
wow, I really can make a

difference here. And where I
started to kind of unravel the

onion was talking to a lot of
nurses, certified nursing

assistants, family members, and
they just struggled with

understanding what the disease
was about how it progressed,

what happens to the person, and
what can you actually do to

connect with people living with
dementia, because many of them

were struggling with how to do
this. And also further, I

learned that there wasn't a lot
of quality education out there

for people seeking the need to
be able to care for people

living with dementia. And so at
that point, I said, I can take

my psychology, experience and
education and really apply it to

this world of dementia, and be
able to really make a

difference. And, you know, most
people they enter into this

industry because they have a
loved one or someone that they

were very close with who
developed the disease. And I

actually quite the opposite
actually entered it because of a

love and passion and a calling
for it. And then later on

actually had a grandmother in
law who developed Alzheimer's

disease and was able to be a
good asset to the family. So

it's kind of a reverse for me,
and I just really haven't looked

back ever since.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Well, let's
give our audience some

background information for the
rest of the episode. How does

dementia affect the brain?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yes, so
when we talk about specifically

Alzheimer's disease, Um, because
there are many forms of

dementia. So with Alzheimer's
disease being the most common,

we'll kind of start there. You
know, there are I like to really

kind of talk in, in, you know,
words that anybody can really

understand, right? So there's
plaques and tangles that form in

the brain that are called
protein deposits, right, they

can kind of they can glom
together like a, what I like to

call like termites on wood,
right. So, you know, we know

when termites affect wood, they
actually eat away the wood until

it's gone. So the protein
deposits are actually doing that

they're eating away that portion
of the brain work formed. And

unfortunately, several protein
deposits kind of form around the

brain. Now, the reason that
these Protein Protein deposits

form are from many different
factors. Some are lifestyle

factors, some are genetic
factors, okay? And when these

protein deposits form, they
don't break up. Okay. Now, you

and I may have protein deposits
formed in our brain, but

they're, they break up, right.

Okay, interesting. And so what's
happening is they don't, they're

forming together, and they're
eating away parts of the brain.

Now, those parts of the brain
that are being kind of eaten

away, are, you know, they how
has many functional skills for

us that keep our brain and our
body going. And when that part

of the brain is gone, the person
can no longer use those skills

are no longer present anymore.

And so that's like kind of high
level what's happening with

Alzheimer's disease. Now, there
are other forms of dementia that

we, you know, more commonly know
about now, because of folks like

you who are spreading the word.

Many different kinds of gurus in
dementia care myself, and so on

and so forth. Right. So things
like we've learned more recently

about frontal temporal dementia,
right? We've learned about Lewy

bodies dementia, right? We've
learned about vascular dementia,

right? These are all forms of
dementia. And they affect the

brain differently. But when we
talk about Alzheimer's disease

being the most common, that's
really what's going on as the

disease progresses.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So the other
forms of dementia and believe it

or not, I did not know that
dementia was a symptom of

Alzheimer's, even though I've
been in this industry for a

decade. That is a misconception
that a lot of people get wrong,

you know, and so I've been
educated as well. And I'm glad

that people that tune in they
get an opportunity to understand

the difference. So if
Alzheimer's is caused by the

proteins, the built up of the
plaque, and the tangles, are the

other forms of dementia, the
Lewy Body, the vascular

dementia, are those also caused
by the same plaque buildups in

the brain? Or is that is that a
different? Cause?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: There are
different causes related to

that. So for example, when you
talk about, like Lewy bodies,

dementia, or I'm sorry, like
vascular dementia, with vascular

dementia, it's brought on by a
series of strokes. And so

depending on where the stroke
was in the brain, that is going

to impact those functional
deficits. Now, if the person has

multiple strokes that affect
various areas of the brain, then

of course, the brain is more
impacted. Right. Okay. And so

yeah, it depends. I mean,
obviously, you know, we can go

into each one of those. But I
think that what's important to

know is that these various forms
of dementia do impact the brain

in different ways. And
unfortunately, it does cause

what is a loss of mental
functioning, which is what

dementia is. And that loss of
mental functioning can cause

deficits and orientation,
memory, language learning

ability and judgment, right. And
so depending on which symptoms

they have, that can equate to
this form of dementia. And as we

were saying, you know, dementia
is just an overarching term that

it can be shown up in all of
these various diseases. So when

folks say something like, my mom
had Alzheimer's disease, she

didn't have dementia. That's not
accurate, right? Because if she

had Alzheimer's disease, she had
dementia. Right. But when

someone has dementia, they may
not have Alzheimer's disease, it

might be something else. Yeah.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So let's
focus on Alzheimer's. Two

questions. What are the stages
of Alzheimer's disease? And at

what stage? Is it normally
apparent to the people around

you?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Sure,
absolutely. So for simplicity

purposes, there's early middle
and late stages. Okay. Now, for

any folks who are turning and
who are tuning in who might be a

little more clinical, I like to
use the functional assessment

stage called the fast
assessment, and that breaks it

down into seven stages. And that
just allows us as clinicians to

be able to pinpoint a little
more fine tuned ly where they

might be in in the progression.

But for early, middle and late
stages, where we start to

actually see some changes where
other people can notice is

definitely in the later parts of
the early stage. Now, early on

folks who are living with it, do
notice that there's a difference

but they may not want to talk
about it, they may not want to

admit it, right. But they know
something's different. Where

again, where it's picked up on
with from other people is when

it's later in that earlier
stage. And so what loved ones or

even clinicians might start to
pick up on is, you know, when

the person has repeated their
stories, you know, over and over

again, and they are saying it as
if they have never said it

before, right? It's not apparent
to them that they're repeating

it, right. They're losing things
quite often. So it's not where

you lose one thing. So people,
you know, they freak out, like,

oh, my gosh, I lost my keys
today, do I have dementia?

Probably not. Right. But you
know, if you start to lose

subsequent amount of things,
driving to places and not

knowing how to get home,
especially places that they've

driven to quite often, and it's,
you know, what we call a skill

of procedural memory, where it's
almost automatic, you know, how

to drive to and from, and now
you struggle with that, right?

When there's problem solving
challenges, right, you're not

able to kind of work through
some of the day to day things

that we are normally can. When
there's challenges around

compliance of medication, right,
they're either not taking their

medications or they're
overtaking them. Financially,

there's challenges where we
start to see that either they're

not paying bills, or they're
overpaying bills, right? Or,

unfortunately, we see quite a
number of seniors being scammed

financially, and falling into
kind of those buckets, right.

And so when we start to see an
impact, like I said, on driving

skills, medication management,
financial management, you know,

problem solving organizational
skills, some short term memory

deficits, that's where we start
to say, we need to start to seek

help.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And I see a
lot of people, in my opinion,

think that this is a very small
population that are going to

develop a some form of dementia.

But individually, how do we come
to terms with the fact that

roughly one in five will have
some kind of cognitive

impairment in their life?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yes. And
even after age 85 is wanting to

why. So how do we come to terms
with this? I think that we have

to understand, you know, one,
that we have the ability to

likely prevent this. Okay.

Right, by lifestyle changes,
and, you know, various health

entities that we have control
over okay. to, I think it's to

stay educated, the more educated
we are on this disease, and, and

we're willing to talk about it,
and we're willing to learn more

about it. I think that can only
make us more powerful, right. So

I think that inevitably, we know
that it's a possibility for all

of us. Now, if there is familial
history of it, we have a higher

chance of developing it does not
mean that we're going to get it

we just are more predisposed to
it. But we have some control

over it to be able to say, Okay,
I'm going to try to live the

healthiest lifestyle I can with
the ability to lower my risk,

right?

Kosta Yepifantsev: Can you
expand on that healthy

lifestyle? Like, what do you
believe are the key tenants? And

I know most people say diet and
exercise, but I want you to go a

little bit deeper than that.

What are the things that we can
kind of start right now in terms

of creating a healthy lifestyle?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yeah, so
there's a lot of clinical

evidence around this. And you
know, we've a lot of research

has been spent on trying to find
a cure for Alzheimer's and other

forms of dementia. But I know a
lot of entities are shifting

towards brain health, right? And
so if you do see any educational

forums or discussions or blogs
around brain health, read it.

Okay, take the time to read it.

Right. So where do they
pinpoint? Right, I will start

with diet and exercise, but I
will be more specific, the

Mediterranean diet has been most
studied to help with you know,

lowering the risk for cognitive
impairment. It also has shown

some great entities for our
physical health, as well, as

well as our mental health. It's
actually shown to lower

depression and anxiety in men
and women. Wow. So the

Mediterranean diet is a focus a
lot on like leafy greens, foods

that are high in omega three
fatty acids, and if you don't,

like you know, fish is kind of a
big one for that. If you don't

like that, you can always take
supplements, you know, that kind

of thing. There's a point
towards you know, nuts and

lagoons, you know, various kinds
of beans, you know, things like

that. Staying away from you
know, lots of like a high sugar

diet and whatnot. You can have
like red meat but you know, in

moderation, you know, those
kinds of things. So, I highly

recommend looking up the
Mediterranean diet and actually,

the mind diet and that's it An
acronym mi n. D, was studied

extensively by Russia University
here in Chicago. And so if you

Google that you'll find some
clinical evidence wrote.

Absolutely. So that's diet when
we talk about exercise. And

looking at the evidence around
it, there actually pinpointed

having about two and a half
hours a week, at a rigorous,

like a rigorous rate. That'd be
like a brisk walk could actually

lower your risk for developing
dementia. So two and a half

hours a week, you break that
down as maybe 30 minutes a day,

five days a week, right? Where
you're walking briskly around

your neighborhood, right? So it
doesn't have to be something

where you have to go buy an
expensive gym membership or

anything like that, you can
actually use the resources at

home to be able to do this. And
so it can be implemented if

you're carving out the time to
do that.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So one more
follow up question. Yeah, go

ahead and finish your thought
first,

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: I was
going to add to that, because

there are a number of other
things that we can do to lower

our risk too. And I do want to
try to spread the word on being

able to stimulate us
cognitively. Though, a brain

games is a really great way to
do this. And you have to kind of

pick and choose what your
favorites are, whether it's to

duco, whether it's crossword
puzzles, word searches, right.

And these are easily accessible
apps on your phone. Now, I'm

still old school. And I really
do encourage folks to still use

paper and pencil versions of
these because you're actually

utilizing other parts of your
brain that you may not otherwise

when you're using just the
phone, like maintain your

writing skills and things like
that. Absolutely, it's very

important, we do that. And
unfortunately, we're seeing a

lot of, you know, fine motor
skills, kind of struggling for

our younger folks, because
they're so used to using

computers and phones and things
like that. So it would be in our

best interest to still use paper
pencil as much as we can. But

you know, the research is
actually pinpointed to about

three times a week, 30 minutes
at a time, engaging in some form

of cognitive stimulation. Okay,
now that can come from those

games that I mentioned, but can
also come from things like using

your baking and cooking skills,
gardening skills, anything

tactile in nature, can be really
beneficial to your cognition.

The research shows that nothing
less than that, because if you

do less than that, you're not
really benefiting your brain.

But you don't need more than
that, right? So that three days

a week, 30 minutes at a time.

And if you can't sustain
attention for 30 minutes, then I

say break it down to 15 minutes,
right?

Kosta Yepifantsev: Because that
is a problem nowadays. Actually,

we were just yeah, my wife and I
were just talking about that

this morning about ADHD and
they've actually developed to

have children. So going a little
off topic. They've developed a

video game that is meant to
address children with ADHD,

because they can focus on games,
but typically they it works as a

detriment. So now there's a game
that actually is a benefit to

teach them how to focus more. So
anyway, that was a tangent. I'm

sorry. One more follow up
question. When you said that one

in two people over the age of
85, are at risk of developing

some form of dementia. Do you
does that correlate to if you

look back through the statistics
of Americans that struggle with

being overweight or obese? And
that's usually about 48%. does

that correlate to the sense that
because half of Americans, you

know, obviously, put it,
frankly, are either overweight

or obese, that that is why one
in two people when they get to

the age of 85, and you know,
closer to the end of life that

they develop this disability or
this disease, there's not a

direct

Dr. Jennifer Stelt: correlation.

obesity is a risk factor for
developing dementia. Things like

diabetes as well that make you
know, type two diabetes that may

go along with that. But the
reason that those folks aged 85

and older may develop it more
readily is because age is the

number one risk factor for
developing Alzheimer's. So just

as we get older, we are at a
higher risk. But folks who are

obese whether they are younger
than 85 or not, they it is a

risk factor for developing
dementia as well. Unfortunately,

Kosta Yepifantsev: speaking to
caregivers, specifically, what

do you think are some
misconceptions about dementia

and Alzheimer's disease that
even the caregivers of those

living with the symptoms might
not understand?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yes, so I
think we hit on a big one

earlier, which is, you know,
dementia is an overarching term,

many forms of dementia. And so
we have to just understand that

right in terms of what might be
going on with our loved ones. I

think another one is in the
earlier stages, this is more

towards the later part of the
earliest dangers we start to

see. And then you know, medium
moderate, we start to see

challenges around speech, right?

Where the person is just really
trying to find that word. And

what something's called, like,
it's almost like that feeling of

like the tip of the tongue.

Right? It's right there happens
to me a lot. And worse things

where it's, I know, right? So
it's kind of one of those things

where you start to see that a
lot. But what caregivers start

to think is, well, if they can't
remember these words, that means

that they really don't know
what's going on. And that is not

true. Because although we lose
the ability to grab those words,

they can understand meaning for
a very long time, a lot into the

later stages of the disease.

I'll give you an example. I'm
gonna pull something from my

desk here, right? This is a pen
we know is identified as a pen,

we know that is used to Write
Right. So they may be thinking

of what does that call, I need a
pen, right? But that can't say

the word pen. And as a
caregiver, you're like, oh, my

gosh, how does she not know what
it's called? Right? So then we

assume mom is confused, doesn't
know anything, right? But

really, if you just show mom the
pen and say, Were you looking

for this mom, the pen? Oh, yes,
that's what I was thinking.

Right? She will know what this
does for a very long time and is

independently able to use it
without any assistance needed.

Right. So we have to understand
that, you know, there are really

we need to dive into what
happens during these stages. And

that may be for another podcast.

But also, when we get to that
it's what happens early, but

what happens later on. Right. So
I think that's one thing that we

have to understand is so you
know, at face value, you know,

there are yes, some challenges,
but there are a lot of things

that they can still do, we
should focus on what they can

still do, and reinforce those
skills as much as possible. So

they can hold on to them for as
long as they can. So So I think

that's that's a big

Kosta Yepifantsev: mess. I
agree. And so essentially, just

to summarize into one complete
thought, instead of just

throwing the baby out with the
bathwater, like, oh, they can't

remember the name of for pen or
the word for a pen. You know,

that's it, it's over. Right?

Instead, I think you're saying
reinforce, even the fact that

they recognize the pen, and they
can still use the pen, they may

not remember what it's called,
or they may need help being

prompted. But overall, let's not
just throw in the towel and say,

Oh, my gosh, you know, I'm I'm
at stage seven. Right, when

you're still at stage three.

Right. Good point. Right. So
aside from diet and exercise,

because I know we touched on
that earlier, are there any

other effective treatments for
dementia? And more importantly,

how do you think that these
treatments will evolve over the

next decade?

Dr. Jennifer Stelte: Absolutely.

So we know that there's no known
medical treatment right now for

dementia, it's definitely you
know, when we talk about

approach to care, it's about
socialization. And so we talk

about our health 70% of our
health is actually made up of

our social determinants, meaning
that how we socialize and relate

to others, our relationships,
our interpersonal skills, right?

I mean, as humans, generally
speaking, we are social

creatures, right. And I think we
all learn that during the

pandemic of how much
socialization is a key to our

mental health, right, and our
cognitive health. And so a lot

of approaches to care that have
been developed in this industry

are around socialization and
around that ability to be

stimulated, myself included, I
developed the dementia

connection model, over a 10 year
period, really focusing on how

our brain works, and how stimuli
from the outside coming in and

can impact our brain in positive
ways. Okay. And you know, so a

lot of treatments or a lot of
approaches to care out there are

around this kind of
socialization and utilizing the

skills that are still present,
to reinforce them in order for

them to stay as independent for
as long as possible. Okay. We

talk about some of the recent
medications that have come out.

So there are two sets of
medications that have been

involved in this field one is
neuroleptic medication, which is

medication that allows for the
brain to have a little more

functional ability. As the
disease is progressing. It does

not resolve dementia, it's not a
cure. And actually, it's a bit

controversial because of the
side effects to these

medications. Even Canada
actually has stopped prescribing

these kinds of medications
because the risks have

outweighed the benefits right
over time. Then the other set

are these newer medications that
just came out. Lucano Ma was the

lit the most Most recent
medication that came out, the

very first version actually was
a medication where it was IV

therapy, it was about 45 to 60
minute infusion that can only be

done in hospitals or in
treatment centers. And so for

some of them who have dementia
to be able to sit that long and

to take in this infusion was
quite cumbersome. And the

efficacy rate was very low is
low in like the mid 20

percentile with lots of side
effects. The second version

Lucano mob is the most recent,
as I mentioned, that come out

pill form, which is great. The
controversy here is that it

still has a lot of side effects
and efficacy rate is in the

higher percentile rate of you
know, it being effective. So the

challenge is is you know,
Medicare has been looking at do

we cover this medication? Do we
not? If you're thankful for the

work of the Alzheimer's
Association, they have verbally

agreed to cover it? It just has
not gone into kind of written

formal agreement, what is

Kosta Yepifantsev: it meant to
do? What does the medication

actually meant to address? Like,
how does it How does it react

once it's in your body?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yes, the
great thing is it's meant to

break up those protein deposits.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And what are
the side effects? Yes.

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Lots of
side effects. So. So the

highlight Yeah, no, no, no,
yeah, no, it's okay. So,

unfortunately, there's been edge
atheria to the brain, there's

been, you know, kind of, I want
to say seizures to the brain.

There's been looks at you know,
different kinds of like, you

know, your typical your dry
mouth, your diarrhea, that kind

of stuff. There was in the study
for Luca anima, there was one

death that had occurred. So I
think that there's some delicacy

around it, obviously. But this
medication is specific only for

Alzheimer's disease is not for
other forms of dementia, it has

to be started early on to have
an impact. Because if it's

breaking up those protein
deposits, it's not known yet to

be able to break up all their
protein deposits in the brain

that form as a disease
progresses through moderate late

stage. So it has to be done
started. What

Kosta Yepifantsev: about like,
every day, when I turn on the

TV, I see a commercial for no
Riva plus, or any other you

know, vitamin that's supposed to
increase memory, D, you know,

decrease the risk of cognitive
decline? How do you feel about

those types of vitamins?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: You know,
I mean, I'm, I'm a bit

controversial on the whole FDA
approval thing, because I'm, I'm

big too. I'm big into
alternatives. As you can see, I

use essential oils, I've used
aromatherapy with a number of

folks living with dementia, I
highly encourage, and I teach

folks about this type of
stimulation. And so FDA approval

is not a requirement for me in
terms of being able to look at

it for a, you know, a person
living with dementia, I think we

have to look at the clinical
evidence behind it, their

efficacy rate, you know, I don't
know specifics around you know,

what each one has to offer. But
I always say, number one,

discuss this type of
intervention with your

physician, or if you're already
working with a neurologist to

talk with them about the
benefits of this, because these

types of supplements are not for
everybody. And not everyone

receives the benefit of it. So
we have to kind of look at short

term versus long term benefits.

And also look at what other
medications you're on to make

sure there's no
contraindications. So, you know,

the thing is, is make sure you
do your research before you take

anything that you can order
offline or online, excuse me, or

that, you know, someone
recommends to you that maybe not

not, you know, who's not a
clinician in the industry. Just

make sure you do your research
before consuming

Kosta Yepifantsev: anything. Are
you optimistic that in the next

1020 30 years, we are going to
be able to find an effective

medical treatment for
Alzheimer's and dementia, and

all and 100% Okay, good. Good.

So, you know, there are a lot I
mean, I'm assuming there's a lot

of people working on this
because I think it's, it's safe

to say that this is going to
become a lot more of a topic of

conversation because we're
becoming more of an aging

society. More people are
developing this disease, it's

affecting more and more families
and, you know, if you really

can, if you really think about
it, in my This isn't this is

just purely my opinion, when
someone suffers a physical

disability like a fall, right?

So they're going to need a lot
more support with, you know,

transitioning, you know, in
terms of like, you know, from

bed to chair, wheelchair, all
that stuff, and that could be

very difficult for a family to
reconcile with when somebody

starts Getting you, you know, as
a son or a daughter or somebody

from for starts forgetting you
as a spouse, or a loved one or a

partner life partner, that's a
lot harder to reconcile. When

people disconnect from the life
that they've spent 40 5060 years

building. I mean, you can't it's
hard to rationalize it

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: is it is
and that caregiver, you know,

and or family member, they
really will start to go through

the grieving process, right. And
so it's an it's unfortunate that

it's a long bereavement process,
especially with Alzheimer's

disease being a longer
progression, that this person

will be in kind of this morning
phase, because they're losing

the person that they fell in
love with, or they got to know.

And it's, it is unfortunate,
because it's very difficult on

both ends.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So we always
like to end the show with a call

to action. How can we start
building communities more

knowledgeable about and
accessible to those with

dementia?

Dr. Jennifer Stelter: Yeah, so
I, for folks who have who follow

me on my socials and all of that
out, I always promote, educate

yourself. Because when we
educate ourselves, we have more

knowledge and power to be able
to understand this disease

better. If we are helping
someone who living with

dementia, we know how to and
what's available for treatments,

you know, treatments, approaches
to care, those kinds of things.

We are more knowledgeable on how
the disease is going to

progress. And then we can better
connect to that person living

with dementia. And so staying
educated is important. And

there's so much out there now,
you know, wonderful folks like

yourself that have podcasts
around this. There are our

blogs, you know, there's a new
show that actually came out that

deepest note was a part of you
know, that people can actually

watch it on TV. There's
commercials now about getting

tested earlier. Right. It's
phenomenal to see a commercial

about dementia. So I think that
we're headed in the right

direction with advocacy work. I
think the Alzheimer's

Association amongst many
healthcare professionals and

organizations are taking a stand
to say, Let's educate ourselves.

Let's have information out
there. Folks, don't even go to

my website dementia connection
institute.org. I've got a

resource page with podcasts that
I've been in blogs that I've

done articles, I've written
those kinds of things. So

there's a lot out there. And I
think that the more that we can

stay educated and knowledgeable
about this, we're going to be

able to recognize symptoms and
our loved ones or patients,

whatever it might be. We can
intervene earlier, which a lot

of the treatments that are out
there right now in terms of the

medications that we've talked
about, you have to start early

for it to be effective, right.

So I think that it's really
important that we continue to

just talk about it. Let's let's
let's not, let's let's kill the

stigma. And we can do that by
talking about it. And that's me

really important.

Caroline Moore: Thank you for
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