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Dave Baker and Mike Hayes explore how trail cameras help hunters gather reliable intel on animal movement, stressing smart placement (trail intersections, sun angle), use of cellular/solar setups, and awareness of local regulations. They offer practical tips like wearing gloves to avoid scent contamination and setting cameras at proper heights and distances, while drawing a spiritual parallel: hunters should stay alert and informed just as Christians stay aware of spiritual attacks.

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Speaker 1 0:31
Hey, welcome back to the stand outdoors, the show where faith and the great outdoors come together. I'm Dave Baker along with the founder of the stand outdoors, Mike Hayes, and today we're talking about trail cameras, where, what, when and how. If you are in the trail cameras, I know I am gives you a lot of Intel, a lot of information, and I try to have them going throughout the year, so I can try to pattern all kinds of different animals coming through the woods there in West Virginia, God's country. I know you probably hunt Pennsylvania. I do two at times, if Mike allows me to, yeah, my guide. I don't. I don't guide the guide. He guides me. So I go with Mike wherever he tells me to go, wherever he tells me to sit. That's where I go in Pennsylvania. But in West Virginia, I have a place down there, and I'm able to go on my own property and put up a bunch of trail cameras, and they are a lot of good intel mike over the year to try to find out where the animals are coming through, what they're doing, where they're going. And it's just fascinating to me. I cannot wait to get down there to go get my SD card and sit down at my computer and go through them. Sometimes I'm, I would say most times I'm more disappointed than I am excited, because there's just sometimes not

Speaker 2 1:45
a lot going on. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you love the birds, you know you got, you're almost become a bird watcher. You know, they're making that trigger go off and waste my

Unknown Speaker 1:55
battery. Rose and yeah.

Speaker 2 1:59
But in the squirrels, of course, we love the squirrel, yep, but yeah, it's a, oh, man. It was a game changer when they came out with these things. And now, you know, you say you're checking your SD card, man, sounds, you know, with these, yeah, with with these, sell your type cameras. They just, it's amazing. I mean, a little a little more expensive, you

Unknown Speaker 2:18
know. But gotta get a plan and all that.

Speaker 2 2:20
Got to get a plan and pay for all that stuff. But, yeah, just whatever you can do to get out there, you know this, you got to check with your state and local, you know, regulations, make sure you can use them and and, but they are a game changer. I love the idea how they tell you, you basically give you a good idea of what the inventory is in the woods that year. You know, if you got this big old, 150 class, 60 class, you know, 160 class deer, you don't want to take the 130 class, you know, unless you really want to, you know. But it's nice to know that I might want to wait or something, you know, to see if I get an opportunity for that big guy, let that 130 live another year well. And it's true.

Speaker 1 3:04
And a lot of times, you know, you're looking at some of the sign in the woods, you're seeing the rubs and the scrapes and and you can hunt those. And sometimes they they come through, but a lot of times they're just passing through, hitting trees, making scrapes. But that's not where they are. And you know, oftentimes, back in the day, when we first started doing these, we always see a scrape, we put a camera there, yeah, well, you might see the deer come through, but that's not where they're hanging right? And so having a deer camera really gives you a lot of good intel, specifically deer, where they are and where they're hanging out.

Speaker 2 3:39
Yeah, it's kind of like the reconnaissance, you know, and you don't have to be there, which is so great, and especially at night, you know, because a lot of these big boys, they don't move until it's dark, you know. And that especially when the shooting starts, you know, and hunting season opens, you won't see them a lot of times until the rut and but yet. So how do you know what's out there, you know? Well, with the camera, you can know. And now I remember we used to go out with the big flood lights, you know,

Speaker 1 4:07
we used to go, oh yeah, yeah. Big light spotting is what we called it in Pennsylvania, out spot, and we go out in the

Unknown Speaker 4:13
fields. Yes, by lighting, it's great.

Speaker 1 4:15
It was great. Well, nowadays, Mike, the next thing beyond cameras is the drones. Now, they've gotten the drones going. You have these videos, these guys. They're basically doing it after the hunter has shot a deer. They're looking for the deer, and they're using drones to find them, yeah. But even reconnaissance, they're using them now to try to figure out where the deer are, where they're moving these, these drones, oh, Mike, they are in credible.

Speaker 2 4:43
I'm not sure what the laws are. You're not allowed to hunt with them, I know,

Speaker 1 4:47
but to find out information, they are incredible.

Speaker 2 4:51
Yeah, you don't have to look into that. That's a good point about because, you know, like anything else, it probably will be take a while to get some rules and. Regulations, but they're probably going to be used just like the camera. Yep, the cameras are great if you use them the right way. And and there's, there's a few tips that we're going to go over today that will really help you, I think, you know, get the best use, you know, out of your camera. I mean, you just spent quite a bit of money, and if you got to sell your you're paying it every month, you know, and you and you want to get the best use out of it. The cell years are great. You know, one thing I have done with the cell years is, you know, some of the cameras that I set up are not out in the sun, so you can't use the solar battery because you go through a lot of batteries with these things you really do, and it's such a pain to have to change them out. And it's a lot of money. If you can get the solar it's better. It really is, for 50 to 100 bucks you pay for one of these solar batteries. But the problem is, you got to have them in the sun. If they're in the timber and they're not getting any sun, they're not going to do you any good. So then you got to get some good batteries, and that's why, usually you try to find the best deal. But they're not so cheap. They don't last very long, and you're constantly going in there replacing them and messing up your area. You know, you don't want to. I wouldn't go into a camera more than once every two weeks, because that's a lot. See when I, when I, when I put up these cell your cameras now. And I have the solar powered, you know, energy. And I have a, you know, in Pennsylvania, we live in the special regulation areas where you're allowed to to use corn, but you got to have a feeder. It's got to be spread with a feeder. I have a big feeder now, instead of the little one I used to have, you know, because I figured I had to go in and get my SD card every week. So let me, let me, I can fill up the corn then, well, I don't do that. And I was really not that wasn't good for my area. I had to sneak in, you know. And it just not a good you know, anytime you go in there, you're leaving your scent. That's right. So I wouldn't do it if you don't have a cellular camera. I would just go in at the most, as frequent as only two weeks, not a week, and not, you know, go every two weeks at the what do you call it? You know, just fast as you can go. You know, don't wait. I mean, don't go earlier than that, because you're going to disturb the area too much. Now, the the cellular, with the solar and with the big feeder, if you're allowed to use corn, that's the way to go. Like I can pour, you know, I can have four bags of corn, 200 pounds of corn, in that feeder, and that'll last me close to a month. You know, not quite. So I don't have to go there, because I can get all of my pictures on my phone. I don't have to go into that area and disturb it at all for until it needs more

Speaker 1 7:52
corn well, and a lot of guys that are listening probably don't have and may not be in the special regulation area where you can feed. So you got to kind of be smart about looking for areas where you think the deer moving. Look for trails, look for sign in and out of fields near water. Oftentimes that's a good place to go because they're they have to go water some sort of creek or some pond or something where you know that the deer are, are drinking. They're always a good place. Just to kind of, if you want to get a feel for what for what's in the area, you may not be able to be using it for pattern, but you're kind of getting an idea of what is near you, where you're hunting. And so we're, you're Mike's drawing them in with corn and food. But you may not. Many of you, I would say many of you, are Pennsylvania,

Speaker 2 8:39
most there's only a small area, so you're gonna have to be most of other states. So allow you to even pour it on the ground, which, Pennsylvania doesn't allow you to do that, but, but it's a great way to get inventory in that that way, especially in special regs. But if you don't, yeah, you're right. You gotta find, you know, the trails you gotta, you gotta know where these deer are going, where they're bedding, where they're feeding, and then look for those trails. And I always look for intersections, because the intersections of trails, like two or three trails coming together, eventually they're going to be at that spot. You have a better chance of them crossing that intersection than you do on one trail. So when you find those intersections, that's where you want to put your cameras and and then also, what I was going to recommend is don't put it perpendicular to the trails, because you'll only get a couple seconds of the deer going by the camera. So you want to face the camera down the trails so that they can follow them, follow them, and you'll have more time to see it and capture the picture. If you're doing a video, you'll have more time to, you know, check them out. Well, I thought I was

Speaker 1 9:47
going to be smart this year, and we had a bunch of snow in West Virginia. I went to pull my camera where I my stand is, and I just wasn't getting anything. And I came down to where I parked my car. Oh, look at all. Yeah, the snow gives you a lot of clues. Great. So I thought, I'm gonna put a camera right here. This is gonna be great, because there was just tons of movement in the snow. I got a picture of one deer, and that deer was running by. I did the perpendicular, which I shouldn't have, right? And he was running by, and that was it. I didn't see any I didn't see another deer on that and I put up there for a month, right? Didn't see another deer come through. So it must have been that snow they came down out of the pines and came through there. But that was the only time they used that trail, right? So I, I was like, I was really disappointed. I thought, oh boy, I'm getting Oh,

Speaker 2 10:35
I know. And the snow when? And it could be one deer just walking around, yeah, you see all these footprints, you know? Yeah, back and forth. Oh, man. All right, I want to go through some more tips here that should help you with the placing your cameras and getting the most out of them. All right, you don't want to hang the camera, you know, where it's facing east or west, because of the Sun, the Sun will blacken that thing right out. You get the glare. It just won't it won't work. So you want to face it, you know, north or south, and then you won't have the problem with the sun, whether in the morning or in the evening.

Speaker 1 11:14
I will tell you, Mike, though, that in the mountains, that may not necessarily be true, because in West Virginia, like valleys, East and West is how the mount I'm up, I'm looking at a mountain, and the mountain behind me east and west. North and South is where I have the most sun coming through. So for me in West Virginia, I can't really point mine south, because I get I get sun, so I have to kind of go east and west when you actually

Unknown Speaker 11:43
get the sun, yeah? Because

Speaker 1 11:45
when the sun comes up to me, I don't get sun coming up till eight or 830 because I'm right up against the mountain, right? But so by the time it gets up there, it's not a big issue anymore for me. So sometimes I can point it right into the mountain, right towards the east, and I don't get any sun at all because the mountain blocks it. Yes, because yeah, just a tip there, on, yeah, on where you might be doing it.

Speaker 2 12:08
Yeah, do Yeah. Just keep in mind where you don't want to get that sun rising or settling, where it

Speaker 1 12:14
goes right into and wherever you're hunting, you're going to know what the sun does, yeah, because you're sitting there long enough. That's all you got to think.

Speaker 2 12:21
And that's usually the best time for deer movement too. Is Right? When that sun's coming up, all right, when it's going down, right? All right. The other thing is, let's see if you're going to use, you know, they call it soaking the camera, and you're going to leave it out there for months at a time. Pick a good tree, you know, that's fatter than the camera itself, and and make sure that, I mean, I usually have cameras out, you know, early, like August, even, you know, and even July. Actually, I put them out in July. What am I saying? But, and I'm gonna leave them out there, and I'm going to be getting Intel for, you know, quite some time. And watching these deer grow, it's so neat when you watch them come up with a little velvet buds, you know, and, and it's so cool. But, and you're going, Oh, that's gonna be a big one. He's already got, you know, he's a 10 pointer. And they're only, you know, they're two inches long, but, but anyway, you want to do that. You want to make sure you're picking out a good tree. Use I always do about three to five feet on the tree high from the ground. And use I usually stick at the top of it, you know, to face it down a little bit. And a good way to see, a good way to check out where they're, where the camera is facing. If you can't bring it up on your phone, you know, then put your phone and flat up against the camera, facing out, and take a picture and then look at it, and that's what your camera's gonna see. Great idea, you know, it's a quick way to see what it's showing. All right, let's see you probably, if you have corn or your trail, or whatever you want to, you know, put it on you want to figure the deer is going to be maybe three to five feet away from that. I mean, that's, that's about all. You want to get a good picture of them, you know, no, excuse me. I'm sorry, 10 to 15 feet, three to five feet up the tree, but 10 to 15 feet away, I was thinking, that's kind of close man. I see his nostril, maybe. And I've seen plenty of deer nostrils and bear

Unknown Speaker 14:30
and yeah.

Speaker 2 14:32
So yeah, 10 to 15 feet away from the camera is ideal. If you got it, you know, corn feeder, or if you got a trail, you know, make sure you can pick that up about 10 to 15 feet. Oh, let's see what else other tips we got? I have one for you. Go ahead,

Unknown Speaker 14:50
if you are able to use corn, be very careful as to what

Speaker 1 14:57
is on your hands when you're putting the camera. Up because I found in West Virginia that the bears are nosy. Now they're going to come, obviously, for any food you put out, if you can put any out in your area. But if you get it on the camera, animals will want to smell that, you know, if you've got some sort of Apple thing or whatever it is you're using to draw and that you're allowed to, it gets on your hands, and then you're, you're fooling around with your camera. It gets all over your camera, right? So what happens is these big predator animals, they'll come around, and they'll be smelling it and moving it and

Unknown Speaker 15:32
pushing, yeah, knocking it off, knocking at all, especially

Unknown Speaker 15:35
if you have, you know, solar and stuff. So

Unknown Speaker 15:37
I need it

Speaker 1 15:38
if I have to put something down if I'm allowed to, whatever part of the season I'm allowed to do that, I try to do that. And then I'll put a pair of gloves, on nitrile gloves, or whatever. And then I'll, I'll use that to put the camera up, just to keep the

Speaker 2 15:54
smell down, right? Yeah, that's important. I even take a little bottle of sin away and and I'll spray it, you know, whatever I've been touching, I'll spray it down. But the gloves are real important, and whatever your hand when you're handling anything like that, you know, also, little tip about at night, you get a lot of pictures at night, and a lot of times that's, it's, it's, you know, you can't hunt them at night, but it gives you good inventory. If you have something a little like, if you don't have anything, if your camera's facing in a direction where there's nothing behind the deer and it just goes on for 100 yards or whatever, your flash won't be as effective. It just isn't, you know if they're like, 15 yards out there, and then you're has to have something to bounce off of. So if you have some woods or trees or something that the flash can bounce off behind the deer, on the other side of the deer, you'll see your pictures actually come out much better. You get more light at night, and you can see those animals better. I, like you mentioned, scrapes. I am a big proponent of finding the scrapes and actually scrape lines, because they will be hit again. And if you, if you find, especially if you find some random scrape out there. A lot of times they won't be hit. But if you find a scrape line where you got rubs and scrapes and they're going in a certain direction, I had a buck, beautiful buck. I watched him walk up this hill, and there was, must have been five scrapes along there, right to my stand. Ended up shooting him like five yards underneath me, and he hit every scrape walking up that trail, you know, he made sure he left his mark, you know. And that's why I put my stand there, because of that scrape line. Same thing with cameras. Even mock scrapes can really do well. I've had mock scrapes do really well, get them in a little earlier, you know, and set up a camera, you know. And, you know, put some dough and estrus, you know, and Dopey first, you know, put Dopey and then dough and estrus as you get close to the rut and and they'll make that their own scrape after a while. I've seen that happen many times. Scrapes or are really powerful, you know, for hunting,

Speaker 1 18:16
I find, I found I have one in my stand in West Virginia. They come there every year. They come to the same, same scrape. And they scrape every year at this one little bush, and it's dirt. Thankfully, it's 30 yards away. So I'm kind of always mindful of that. And I if they're hitting it enough, I often don't fool with it. I won't go down there. They want to get anything. I don't try to put anything there. Yeah, you just, I don't know if that's right or not, but no, you

Speaker 2 18:42
lot of you know, lures are funny, you know, people swear by him, or they say, oh, like, I have one guy that I know, and he goes, I'm not putting anything that's totally unnatural. You know, I'm a natural guy. You know, I'm not doing anything. I don't use, he doesn't use sin away, he doesn't use any of that stuff. You know, he's then. But I've had so much success with it. It's crazy. I've had, I had, I had to put a mock scrape up one time, because the deer was going to be walking directly in front of me. I knew it'd be a bad shot. I put a mock scrape in just to turn him, yeah, and put some, some, you know, DOE and estrus in there. And it was like, like, he read the script, you know, he turned right in there. Gave me a perfect quarter and away shot. I took them. Remember, it was like day one of the season. I was done, you know, now what, now what. But, yeah, these are some tips that might help you to, you know, use this camera and and, and they can be give you some vital help to get you to know what's out there and and nowhere to put your stand, because you see where the deer going and coming from and what times they're crossing, you know, and, and it can really be helpful, but hopefully these tips will help you get that big boy you.

Speaker 1 20:00
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Speaker 2 20:14
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Speaker 1 20:21
tab also check out our targeting the truth Bible studies and the YouTube hunt videos. Again, it's all found at the stand outdoors.com. Check it out. You know, as Jesus followers, we have an enemy. That's the Bible says, walking to and fro across the earth to wreak havoc, to steal, destroy, and that person is the devil, and it's good to have a little intel on him to try to figure out what he's doing as Jesus followers. And so trail cameras work the same way we're trying to get intel on deer. And so our spiritual lesson today is, how do we get intel on the enemy so we know how to work around him and outsmart him,

Speaker 2 21:03
and outsmart him, just like we're doing with the deer, right? How do we do that? Well, I got some verses. We're going to go through, we're going to do our reconnaissance, we're going to find out who this enemy is that wants to outwit us and and hopefully we can outwit him with Jesus, of course, but the first verse I want to look at is First Peter, five eight, and it says, Be alert and of sober mind, your enemy, the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him. Stand firm in the faith. At that little last line sounds familiar to you. It's because that's what we say at the end of every show. Stand firm in the faith and keep targeting the truth. We got to know the truth. What is the Intel? As Dave was saying on our enemy so we know how to we got to have a sober mind. We got to be alert. Don't be silly, because this guy, he's been working with mankind for years, and he's a great deceiver. He knows how to do it, and we need to. We need to know how he does it so we can outwit him. Now let's look at Second Corinthians, 1114, and no wonder for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising then if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Now, what is this talking about? Well, it just talks about how Satan can look so good. He's the great deceiver. He knows how to deceive us, and he also has a lot of people out there, and that's what this verse is talking about, who masquerade as servants of righteousness. But how can you know the difference? The way you know the difference is by targeting the truth. Jesus said, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes under the father, but through me. Well, if we know the truth, the truth will set us free, right? He also said that. And so we need to know God's word, and that's what this ministry is all about. You know, is helping us get into the Word of God to know the truth. You know, I remember reading something about these FBI guys, or whoever's in charge of counterfeit money and and I remember the article I was reading said, the guy was saying, Well, you guys must study all the different kinds of counterfeit bills. And, I mean, you got to know that must take hours and hours. And the officer said, No, we never do that. And the guy goes, what? And he goes, No, we study the real money. We study the real $100 bill, what does it look we know every detail. We know when we see a fake we recognize it immediately. That's interesting, and I thought that was a great illustration of how we can know when, when it's Satan trying to deceive us with either one of his servants, you know one of the, some of these preachers that sound so good on TV, but you just keep listening, and you find out, because you know the truth so well that they're not preaching the truth, they just sound like they are. And so that that's important to know the truth, so the truth can set you free. Ephesians, 612 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil and the heavenly realms. That's our battle. You know, we might think it's, oh, look at what they're showing on TV or look, look at what they're allowing on, you know, social media or whatever. That's not where the battle lies. The battle lies in the spiritual realm that's behind all of it, and that's where we need our powerful mediator, you know, the Holy Spirit. It, and he is living in us, and He will guide us in our prayer. We need to pray against these things. We need to look out for them, and the Holy Spirit will help us to recognize them, to pray for them. But that's where our battle lies. We got to nip it there. Nip it in the bud, as they say in Second Corinthians, chapter two, verse 11, it talks about that we're not unaware of Satan's schemes. That it talks about we need to be aware so that we can outwit him, just like we do with the deer. You know, we need to know that their noses are incredible. That's their biggest defense, and we need to outwit them with that. No so we go go through like what we did with Joey a couple shows ago. You know, the the, you know, he, what he goes through just to outwit that nose is incredible, but that's what you got to do. You got to play the win. You got to do all these different things. So we got to know our enemy to be able to do that. Now, Ephesians 617, says that we need to take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And if you look at Ephesians 14, it gives you a whole list of the armor of God, which is, this is the way we fight the devil. It talks about. First one is the belt of truth. All right, you got to know the truth guys. That takes time, that takes studying. It takes listening to people you know that are preaching from the word teaching the truth. The second one is the breastplate of righteousness. You got to have that in place. You got to have you got to be sure of your salvation that you've received. You know this righteousness, which is of Christ, not of us, because we'll never be good enough, right? Have that in place. In other words, we have made that decision. We know from which our salvation comes. Then it says, have your feet shod with the readiness of the gospel of Christ. In other words, prepare, like we were talking, you know, before about Ben prepared. Have your boots ready with the gospel. You know what the gospel is, be able so you're ready to share it. The fourth thing is the shield of faith that will, you know, extinguish the fiery darts of the of the enemy, right, the arrows from the enemy. And that shield of faith, faith is so important. That's why we say stand in the faith, the helmet of salvation, again, knowing where your salvation comes from, that's what protects us. But then this one, number six, and this was in our verse, verse 17, the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. You know, that's what this ministry is all about. That's why we do these Bible studies called targeting the truth, because we want to get you so equipped with that sword, you got to know how to, first of all, what that sword is all about. You got to know how to use it, and that's what the Word of God is. How can you defend yourself against the enemy? Without your sword? You got to have the sword, guys. And that's why we've created these Bible studies, so that you could get in God's word, learn his word, know the truth, which is the word of God, and that's the sword of the Spirit. That's how the spirit will defend you through his I mean, know His Word. Guys get into to the Lord's word, his Bible, understand what it is, and you will see you will have an incredible sword to fight with.

Speaker 1 28:41
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Speaker 2 28:49
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Speaker 2 29:07
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